Re: wordperfect 5.1 for unix, and debian?
On 12/17/2014 11:15 PM, Gary Dale wrote: On 16/12/14 10:44 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Greetings everyone, I have a still in the package copy of wordperfect 5.1 for UNIX. I got this because wordperfect is my main word processor on my primary computer and I would welcome, if at all possible, to use it with Linux as well. Is there any reason why the program cannot be installed on a machine running Debian squeeze? My interest is in logistics, as I realize the software may be better suited for networks, not individual computers. Thanks, Karen LibreOffice reads WP documents quite well in my experience. However if you want a version running in Linux, just set up a virtual machine and run your primary computer's copy. Wine and its derivatives can generally handle Windows programs but virtual machines provide a pretty good alternative when you want the program to work like it does on Windows. I use KVM myself and find it great for most purposes but when a friend needed something to run AutoCAD, it required Vmware. I think VirtualBox has caught up a bit since then in the area of graphics processors. Way back, I actually used Corel's Linux with WP and found it better than the alternatives at the time. However things have progressed rapidly since then and my advice is to make the switch to LibreOffice. It's cross-platform, current, maintained and uses the ISO standard data formats so you won't be stuck in the future. If you can't tolerate the strictures of LO, take a look at Softmaker Office. I don't know if it reads WordPerfect, but it reads and writes all the modern formats. There's a free version for non-commercial use, and it seems to have just about all the pay version has. Don't know if there is a .deb install version; there is an rpm. There is a word processor, a spreadsheet, and Presentations. --doug -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54926ab3.50...@optonline.net
Re: easiest way to shut down all network services besides ssh?
On 12/18/2014 at 12:08 AM, Britton Kerin wrote: > I have a system that I would like to make accessible only by ssh. > > No apache telnet ftp anything else. > > What is the easiest way to achieve this? It came from a vendor with > a slew of package of all sorts, so I don't even know everything that > I want to remove. The literal easiest way is probably to reinstall from scratch as a minimal system, then install openssh-server. If you want to transform your current system by removing externally-accessible services, I don't know of a strictly "easy" way, but if I wanted to do that on a machine under my control, what I'd do is: * Get a list of open ports by running 'nmap localhost' (or by running nmap against the system from a different machine, which might give more reliable results). * Do some guesswork against the installed package list to figure out what might be opening each of the listed ports. * Remove all of those packages except for the chosen SSH server package. The guesswork is the difficult part, and although it doesn't seem terribly difficult from my end when I do a trial run (omitting the final "remove" part) on my own system, I can imagine that it could easily enough be more difficult under your circumstances. I don't have any good suggestions for how to make it any easier. -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
easiest way to shut down all network services besides ssh?
I have a system that I would like to make accessible only by ssh. No apache telnet ftp anything else. What is the easiest way to achieve this? It came from a vendor with a slew of package of all sorts, so I don't even know everything that I want to remove. Thanks, Britton -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cac4o8c_s_bqvye980fj2ok+qdeeinkmcp3u0aqcw4hjsri5...@mail.gmail.com
Re: wordperfect 5.1 for unix, and debian?
Who said anything about running windows? The only windows I have are made of glass lol. Although a virtual dos machine might be interesting if I find anything over much to do with Linux. Thanks for the giggle, Kare On Wed, 17 Dec 2014, Gary Dale wrote: On 16/12/14 10:44 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Greetings everyone, I have a still in the package copy of wordperfect 5.1 for UNIX. I got this because wordperfect is my main word processor on my primary computer and I would welcome, if at all possible, to use it with Linux as well. Is there any reason why the program cannot be installed on a machine running Debian squeeze? My interest is in logistics, as I realize the software may be better suited for networks, not individual computers. Thanks, Karen LibreOffice reads WP documents quite well in my experience. However if you want a version running in Linux, just set up a virtual machine and run your primary computer's copy. Wine and its derivatives can generally handle Windows programs but virtual machines provide a pretty good alternative when you want the program to work like it does on Windows. I use KVM myself and find it great for most purposes but when a friend needed something to run AutoCAD, it required Vmware. I think VirtualBox has caught up a bit since then in the area of graphics processors. Way back, I actually used Corel's Linux with WP and found it better than the alternatives at the time. However things have progressed rapidly since then and my advice is to make the switch to LibreOffice. It's cross-platform, current, maintained and uses the ISO standard data formats so you won't be stuck in the future. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/549254c8.1030...@torfree.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pine.bsf.4.64.1412172334090.37...@server1.shellworld.net
Re: wordperfect 5.1 for unix, and debian?
On 16/12/14 10:44 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Greetings everyone, I have a still in the package copy of wordperfect 5.1 for UNIX. I got this because wordperfect is my main word processor on my primary computer and I would welcome, if at all possible, to use it with Linux as well. Is there any reason why the program cannot be installed on a machine running Debian squeeze? My interest is in logistics, as I realize the software may be better suited for networks, not individual computers. Thanks, Karen LibreOffice reads WP documents quite well in my experience. However if you want a version running in Linux, just set up a virtual machine and run your primary computer's copy. Wine and its derivatives can generally handle Windows programs but virtual machines provide a pretty good alternative when you want the program to work like it does on Windows. I use KVM myself and find it great for most purposes but when a friend needed something to run AutoCAD, it required Vmware. I think VirtualBox has caught up a bit since then in the area of graphics processors. Way back, I actually used Corel's Linux with WP and found it better than the alternatives at the time. However things have progressed rapidly since then and my advice is to make the switch to LibreOffice. It's cross-platform, current, maintained and uses the ISO standard data formats so you won't be stuck in the future. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/549254c8.1030...@torfree.net
Re: help on linex
Just to be clear. You are saying the different operating systems were all loading at one time in the past and now are not loading. On 12/17/2014 10:14 AM, vijay krishnan wrote: i had linex OS&windows7 professional.By some careless mistake windows7 is not appear.when i power on it shows four version of OS &windows vista(loader) instead of windows7&linex.all the four verion of linex are still working but the windows vista(loader) is not opens it requires setup.please help me to access my windows7&linex. -- John Foster JW Foster & Associates -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54924b14.2020...@gmail.com
Re: wordperfect 5.1 for unix, and debian?
Hi Paul. What an interesting link. thanks for sharing that Dutch project. Karen On Wed, 17 Dec 2014, Doug wrote: On 12/17/2014 08:58 AM, Paul van der Vlis wrote: Op 17-12-14 om 04:44 schreef Karen Lewellen: > Greetings everyone, > I have a still in the package copy of wordperfect 5.1 for UNIX. I got > this because wordperfect is my main word processor on my primary > computer and I would welcome, if at all possible, to use it with Linux > as well. > Is there any reason why the program cannot be installed on a machine > running Debian squeeze? >My interest is in logistics, as I realize the software may be better > suited for networks, not individual computers. > Thanks, > Karen I know the guys from Dutch Debian Distribution Initiative are selling a Debian "extra" DVD with the '"free edition" of WordPerfect 8 for Linux'. Maybe you can ask them what that is: http://dddi.nl/neword_en.html (search for "WordPerfect"). With regards, Paul van der Vlis. If anyone figures out how to get ONLY the EXTRA CD _and_ how to get it shipped to the US, and hopefully for less than €24, I would like very much to know. Please post it in this thread, or send to me directly. Thank you! --doug -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/549225dd.5070...@optonline.net
Re: wordperfect 5.1 for unix, and debian? (more)
On 12/17/2014 07:43 PM, Charlie wrote: On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 13:14:23 -0500 Ric Moore sent: Just a little follow-up to the last post. I don't like OpenOffice or LibreOffice because I don't like the strait-jacket they put you in. Which is what?? It certainly isn't the price. :/ Ric Actually, I was going to ask that but thought it might be a silly question? So thanks for asking it. Because it would be interesting to know what sort of strait jacket I'm bound into when using LibreOffice. Hopefully, not one of the rubber ones. They itch. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54922cdd.40...@gmail.com
Re: wordperfect 5.1 for unix, and debian? (more)
On 12/17/2014 01:14 PM, Ric Moore wrote: On 12/16/2014 11:41 PM, Doug wrote: /snip/ Just a little follow-up to the last post. I don't like OpenOffice or LibreOffice because I don't like the strait-jacket they put you in. Which is what?? It certainly isn't the price. :/ Ric I don't want to get into this again. You can't even indent a line or if indented remove it without invoking their preset formats, or styles, or whatever they call them. They can keep it! --doug -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54922a8f.3030...@optonline.net
Re: wordperfect 5.1 for unix, and debian?
On 12/17/2014 08:58 AM, Paul van der Vlis wrote: Op 17-12-14 om 04:44 schreef Karen Lewellen: Greetings everyone, I have a still in the package copy of wordperfect 5.1 for UNIX. I got this because wordperfect is my main word processor on my primary computer and I would welcome, if at all possible, to use it with Linux as well. Is there any reason why the program cannot be installed on a machine running Debian squeeze? My interest is in logistics, as I realize the software may be better suited for networks, not individual computers. Thanks, Karen I know the guys from Dutch Debian Distribution Initiative are selling a Debian "extra" DVD with the '"free edition" of WordPerfect 8 for Linux'. Maybe you can ask them what that is: http://dddi.nl/neword_en.html (search for "WordPerfect"). With regards, Paul van der Vlis. If anyone figures out how to get ONLY the EXTRA CD _and_ how to get it shipped to the US, and hopefully for less than €24, I would like very much to know. Please post it in this thread, or send to me directly. Thank you! --doug -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/549225dd.5070...@optonline.net
Re: wordperfect 5.1 for unix, and debian? (more)
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 13:14:23 -0500 Ric Moore sent: > >> > > Just a little follow-up to the last post. I don't like OpenOffice or > > LibreOffice because I don't like the strait-jacket they > > put you in. > > Which is what?? It certainly isn't the price. :/ Ric Actually, I was going to ask that but thought it might be a silly question? So thanks for asking it. Because it would be interesting to know what sort of strait jacket I'm bound into when using LibreOffice. Be well, Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 *** Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...holy shit...what a ride!" anon *** Debian GNU/Linux - just the best way to create magic - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141218114342.0fe73add@taogypsy
Re: unstable system
On Ma, 16 dec 14, 11:35:26, jesus_...@posteo.de wrote: > Hello everyone! > > I don't no which package really cause the errors, so I write to the > mailing list. When I'm using my wifi-stick "USRobotics - USR8005423" > my syslog file don't stop growing till my root partition is > overflowing. This error always repeats: Do you have the package logrotate installed? Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Headset with Wheezy
On Wednesday 17 December 2014 21:33:16 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 14 dec 14, 10:51:07, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > I am proposing to buy a headset for recording with Audacity and Wheezy. > > The earphones will presumably be fine provided that sound is working, but > > I am a bit worried about the mikes. These two Sennheiser headsets look > > promising, but I would value comments: > > > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0077L2WCY/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding= > >UTF8&colid=2EPMKT7CE5075&coliid=I739L1ADGA0VF > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B005HWEYN0/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding= > >UTF8&colid=2EPMKT7CE5075&coliid=I1O4MWOTMYWAIM > > > > In particular, does anyone know whether the mikes work OK in Linux? > > (Audacity, on Wheezy with Trinity DE.) > > They should work just fine as long as the microphone input on your > system works correctly. Thanks, Andrei. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201412172203.09053.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Removing USB entry in /etc/fstab in standard installations
On Lu, 15 dec 14, 13:46:36, Christoph Baumhardt wrote: > 2. Can developers or maintainers do something about this issue, so > that > novice users don't experience the same problems as I and several others > did? I think being able to write to an USB stick should work out of the box > for a non-root user. Perhaps there are ways to not let the fstab entry > appear at all if it isn't necessary or remove it after installation. Can you reproduce this issue with the latest installer? If yes you might want to add this information to https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=757413 and/or reopen https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=646795 Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Machine hangs at boot
On Lu, 15 dec 14, 12:45:52, Marko Randjelovic wrote: > On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 14:37:10 +0400 > German wrote: > > > My machine hangs at boot, so i'd like someone to take a look at my log. > > Thanks > > > > http://pastebin.com/3crkJgnE > > > 939. [ 34.070472] EXT4-fs (sda2): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro > > What's sda2? Looks like it has errors. Do fsck on sda2. Looks to me like a normal re-mount message, usually for the root filesystem. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Headset with Wheezy
On Du, 14 dec 14, 10:51:07, Lisi Reisz wrote: > I am proposing to buy a headset for recording with Audacity and Wheezy. The > earphones will presumably be fine provided that sound is working, but I am a > bit worried about the mikes. These two Sennheiser headsets look promising, > but I would value comments: > > http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0077L2WCY/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2EPMKT7CE5075&coliid=I739L1ADGA0VF > http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B005HWEYN0/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2EPMKT7CE5075&coliid=I1O4MWOTMYWAIM > > In particular, does anyone know whether the mikes work OK in Linux? > (Audacity, on Wheezy with Trinity DE.) They should work just fine as long as the microphone input on your system works correctly. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
mounting removable media without systemd on Jessie
Just posting something I discovered recently in case anybody's interested... On a Jessie system without systemd you can mount USB sticks and other removable media using the pmount command, as others have pointed out on this list. I was looking for a gui method, and I've found it. Spacefm is a file manager that will use any of the following to mount removable media: udevil pmount udisks2 (depends on libpam-systemd) udisks I've tested its use with pmount and udevil and they both work. I find udevil a bit nicer, because I was able to get the mount point to be /media/$USER/label by setting the following in /etc/udevil/udevil.conf: allowed_media_dirs = /media/$USER I'm not claiming that this is a perfect solution. For instance, spacefm and udevil are currently unmaintained. But I thought some folks on this list would be interested to know about this option anyway. -Rob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Fwd: mpd/systemd problem
That error looks like a known bug related to cgroups that's popped up on
many distros. See below. Removing that related control group should solve
the issue.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1010534
https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/36339
http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse-bugs/2013-12/msg01363.html
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 9:39 AM, sp113438 wrote:
>
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:20:45 -0800
> Don Armstrong wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 17 Dec 2014, sp113438 wrote:
> > > On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 08:16:04 -0800
> > > Don Armstrong wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 17 Dec 2014, sp113438 wrote:
> > > > > systemctl disable mpd.service; systemctl disable mpd.socket;
> > > > > is not able to stop mpd
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > # systemctl disable mpd.service; systemctl disable mpd.socket;
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > # systemctl status mpd.{socket,status};
> > > ● mpd.socket
> > >Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/mpd.socket; disabled)
> > >Active: inactive (dead)
> > >Listen: /run/mpd/socket (Stream)
> > >[::]:6600 (Stream)
> >
> > Err, that should have been {socket,service}, not {socket,status}.
> >
> > But in any event, it looks like they're both disabled, and not
> > running. So I'm not sure why you said that it was unable to stop mpd.
> >
> While mpd is running:
>
> systemctl status mpd.{socket,service};
> ● mpd.socket
>Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/mpd.socket; disabled)
>Active: inactive (dead)
>Listen: /run/mpd/socket (Stream)
>[::]:6600 (Stream)
>
> ● mpd.service - Music Player Daemon
>Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/mpd.service; disabled)
>Active: inactive (dead)
>
> Dec 17 17:40:20 fx4100 systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/mpd.service:17]
> Unknown lvalue 'ControlGroup' in section 'Service' Dec 17 17:40:20
> fx4100 systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/mpd.service:20] Unknown lvalue
> 'ControlGroupAttribute' in section 'Service' Dec 17 17:41:06 fx4100
> systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/mpd.service:17] Unknown lvalue
> 'ControlGroup' in section 'Service' Dec 17 17:41:06 fx4100 systemd[1]:
> [/lib/systemd/system/mpd.service:20] Unknown lvalue
> 'ControlGroupAttribute' in section 'Service' Dec 17 17:43:26 fx4100
> systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/mpd.service:17] Unknown lvalue
> 'ControlGroup' in section 'Service' Dec 17 17:43:26 fx4100 systemd[1]:
> [/lib/systemd/system/mpd.service:20] Unknown lvalue
> 'ControlGroupAttribute' in section 'Service' Dec 17 19:37:33 fx4100
> systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/mpd.service:17] Unknown lvalue
> 'ControlGroup' in section 'Service' Dec 17 19:37:33 fx4100 systemd[1]:
> [/lib/systemd/system/mpd.service:20] Unknown lvalue
> 'ControlGroupAttribute' in section 'Service' Dec 17 19:37:33 fx4100
> systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/mpd.service:17] Unknown lvalue
> 'ControlGroup' in section 'Service' Dec 17 19:37:33 fx4100 systemd[1]:
> [/lib/systemd/system/mpd.service:20] Unknown lvalue
> 'ControlGroupAttribute' in section 'Service'
>
> Hope this helps,
> Thanks!
>
>
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Re: mpd/systemd problem
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:20:45 -0800
Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014, sp113438 wrote:
> > On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 08:16:04 -0800
> > Don Armstrong wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 17 Dec 2014, sp113438 wrote:
> > > > systemctl disable mpd.service; systemctl disable mpd.socket;
> > > > is not able to stop mpd
>
> [...]
>
> > # systemctl disable mpd.service; systemctl disable mpd.socket;
>
> [...]
>
> > # systemctl status mpd.{socket,status};
> > ● mpd.socket
> >Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/mpd.socket; disabled)
> >Active: inactive (dead)
> >Listen: /run/mpd/socket (Stream)
> >[::]:6600 (Stream)
>
> Err, that should have been {socket,service}, not {socket,status}.
>
> But in any event, it looks like they're both disabled, and not
> running. So I'm not sure why you said that it was unable to stop mpd.
>
While mpd is running:
systemctl status mpd.{socket,service};
● mpd.socket
Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/mpd.socket; disabled)
Active: inactive (dead)
Listen: /run/mpd/socket (Stream)
[::]:6600 (Stream)
● mpd.service - Music Player Daemon
Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/mpd.service; disabled)
Active: inactive (dead)
Dec 17 17:40:20 fx4100 systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/mpd.service:17]
Unknown lvalue 'ControlGroup' in section 'Service' Dec 17 17:40:20
fx4100 systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/mpd.service:20] Unknown lvalue
'ControlGroupAttribute' in section 'Service' Dec 17 17:41:06 fx4100
systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/mpd.service:17] Unknown lvalue
'ControlGroup' in section 'Service' Dec 17 17:41:06 fx4100 systemd[1]:
[/lib/systemd/system/mpd.service:20] Unknown lvalue
'ControlGroupAttribute' in section 'Service' Dec 17 17:43:26 fx4100
systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/mpd.service:17] Unknown lvalue
'ControlGroup' in section 'Service' Dec 17 17:43:26 fx4100 systemd[1]:
[/lib/systemd/system/mpd.service:20] Unknown lvalue
'ControlGroupAttribute' in section 'Service' Dec 17 19:37:33 fx4100
systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/mpd.service:17] Unknown lvalue
'ControlGroup' in section 'Service' Dec 17 19:37:33 fx4100 systemd[1]:
[/lib/systemd/system/mpd.service:20] Unknown lvalue
'ControlGroupAttribute' in section 'Service' Dec 17 19:37:33 fx4100
systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/mpd.service:17] Unknown lvalue
'ControlGroup' in section 'Service' Dec 17 19:37:33 fx4100 systemd[1]:
[/lib/systemd/system/mpd.service:20] Unknown lvalue
'ControlGroupAttribute' in section 'Service'
Hope this helps,
Thanks!
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Re: help on linex
On 12/17/2014 08:14 AM, vijay krishnan wrote: i had linex OS&windows7 professional.By some careless mistake windows7 is not appear.when i power on it shows four version of OS&windows vista(loader) instead of windows7&linex.all the four verion of linex are still working but the windows vista(loader) is not opens it requires setup.please help me to access my windows7&linex. You should see both versions of windows in the windows boot loader, not in grub. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Squeeze - KDE 4.4.5 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda11 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5491c9b7.7070...@gmail.com
Re: wordperfect 5.1 for unix, and debian? (more)
On 12/16/2014 11:41 PM, Doug wrote: On 12/16/2014 10:57 PM, Doug wrote: On 12/16/2014 10:44 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Greetings everyone, I have a still in the package copy of wordperfect 5.1 for UNIX. I got this because wordperfect is my main word processor on my primary computer and I would welcome, if at all possible, to use it with Linux as well. Is there any reason why the program cannot be installed on a machine running Debian squeeze? My interest is in logistics, as I realize the software may be better suited for networks, not individual computers. Thanks, Karen There was once (around 1995?) a WordPerfect version for Linux. It worked, but it had terrible fonts. It has not been possible to install that for at least the past 4 years, and probably longer, as the dependencies can no longer be met. I have WordPerfect12 working on the latest PCLinuxOS KDE, but not the spread sheet. It doesn't look real nice on the screen, and it comes up with some difficulty, but it is usable, if you are stubborn. I also have Corel Draw 9 and the corresponding PhotoPaint working. Both of WP and draw are running in WINE. --doug Just a little follow-up to the last post. I don't like OpenOffice or LibreOffice because I don't like the strait-jacket they put you in. Which is what?? It certainly isn't the price. :/ Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5491c7ff.7020...@gmail.com
Re: Kernel failure
On 12/15/2014 05:37 PM, Go Linux wrote: No one? FWIW. Haven’t had a problem since I posted this several days ago. Any thoughts? On Sat, 12/13/14, golinux wrote: Subject: Kernel failure To: "Debian User" Date: Saturday, December 13, 2014, 1:40 AM On squeeze LTS. Upgraded the kernel 2 days ago. Everything was going OK. Then out of nowhere I get a kernel failure popup after coming out of suspend. Everything seems to be working OK so I've just gone on about my business. But don't want to get bit down the road. What should I do? This has never happened in the 10 years I've been using Linux so I'm a little lost. Here's the log: Kernel failure message 1: [ cut here ] WARNING: at /build/linux-2.6-bBJNRm/linux-2.6-2.6.32/debian/build/source_i386_none/kernel/rcutree.c:277 Please cc to the above address. There are two versions in the repos, I'm using the LTS version, seems to be no problem with it, but you may want to try the other version... -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Squeeze - KDE 4.4.5 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda11 Registered Linux User #380263 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5491c3ad.8020...@gmail.com
Re: mpd/systemd problem
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014, sp113438 wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 08:16:04 -0800
> Don Armstrong wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 17 Dec 2014, sp113438 wrote:
> > > systemctl disable mpd.service; systemctl disable mpd.socket;
> > > is not able to stop mpd
[...]
> # systemctl disable mpd.service; systemctl disable mpd.socket;
[...]
> # systemctl status mpd.{socket,status};
> ● mpd.socket
>Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/mpd.socket; disabled)
>Active: inactive (dead)
>Listen: /run/mpd/socket (Stream)
>[::]:6600 (Stream)
Err, that should have been {socket,service}, not {socket,status}.
But in any event, it looks like they're both disabled, and not running.
So I'm not sure why you said that it was unable to stop mpd.
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Re: mpd/systemd problem
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 08:16:04 -0800
Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2014, sp113438 wrote:
> > systemctl disable mpd.service; systemctl disable mpd.socket;
> > is not able to stop mpd
>
> What is the output of systemctl status mpd.{socket,status}; after you
> have disabled the service?
>
> Both should be loaded, disabled, and inactive.
>
# systemctl disable mpd.service; systemctl disable mpd.socket;
Synchronizing state for mpd.service with sysvinit using update-rc.d...
Executing /usr/sbin/update-rc.d mpd defaults
insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script `mpd'
overrides LSB defaults (2 3 4 5). insserv: warning: current stop
runlevel(s) (0 1 2 3 4 5 6) of script `mpd' overrides LSB defaults (0 1
6). Executing /usr/sbin/update-rc.d mpd disable insserv: warning:
current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script `mpd' overrides LSB
defaults (2 3 4 5). insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (0 1 2 3
4 5 6) of script `mpd' overrides LSB defaults (0 1 6).
# systemctl status mpd.{socket,status};
● mpd.socket
Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/mpd.socket; disabled)
Active: inactive (dead)
Listen: /run/mpd/socket (Stream)
[::]:6600 (Stream)
● mpd.status.service
Loaded: not-found (Reason: No such file or directory)
Active: inactive (dead)
Thanks!
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Re: wordperfect 5.1 for unix, and debian?
On 2014-12-17 Karen Lewellen wrote: > I have a still in the package copy of wordperfect 5.1 for UNIX. I got > this because wordperfect is my main word processor on my primary computer > and I would welcome, if at all possible, to use it with Linux as well. > Is there any reason why the program cannot be installed on a machine > running Debian squeeze? If you could somehow get hold of a copy of WP 5.1 for Dos, I used that with good results under Dosemu -- many, many years ago. ;) Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnm93dno.9u0@gatsby.mbjnet.dk
Re: mpd/systemd problem
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014, sp113438 wrote:
> systemctl disable mpd.service; systemctl disable mpd.socket;
> is not able to stop mpd
What is the output of systemctl status mpd.{socket,status}; after you
have disabled the service?
Both should be loaded, disabled, and inactive.
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Re: wordperfect 5.1 for unix, and debian?
Doug: > Karen Lewellen: > > Doug: > > > There was once (around 1995?) a WordPerfect version for Linux. It > > > worked, but it had terrible fonts. It has not been possible to > > > install that for at least the past 4 years, and probably longer, > > > as the dependencies can no longer be met. > > > > YOu know? > > I need to check this edition then, because it is far more current > > than 1995 I am sure. Kare > > Ok, I was guessing 1995, it was later. I found my copy of Corel > WordPerfect 8 for Linux, Personal Edition. The disk is copyright > 1998. You might find this site about using WP on Linux interesting: http://xwp8users.com/ There's a section about running WP8 on current Debian-based distros. And the corel.WordPerfect_Linux newsgroup at the cnews.corel.com server still exists. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141217171230.ae5bc6ccabf74fe5b416d...@kpnplanet.nl
Re: wordperfect 5.1 for unix, and debian?
Op 17-12-14 om 04:44 schreef Karen Lewellen: > Greetings everyone, > I have a still in the package copy of wordperfect 5.1 for UNIX. I got > this because wordperfect is my main word processor on my primary > computer and I would welcome, if at all possible, to use it with Linux > as well. > Is there any reason why the program cannot be installed on a machine > running Debian squeeze? > My interest is in logistics, as I realize the software may be better > suited for networks, not individual computers. > Thanks, > Karen I know the guys from Dutch Debian Distribution Initiative are selling a Debian "extra" DVD with the '"free edition" of WordPerfect 8 for Linux'. Maybe you can ask them what that is: http://dddi.nl/neword_en.html (search for "WordPerfect"). With regards, Paul van der Vlis. -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer, Groningen http://www.vandervlis.nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54918bec.2060...@vandervlis.nl
Re: wordperfect 5.1 for unix, and debian?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Greetings everyone, > I have a still in the package copy of wordperfect 5.1 for UNIX. Which Unix? Which hardware vendor/CPU? > I got this > because wordperfect is my main word processor on my primary computer and I > would welcome, if at all possible, to use it with Linux as well. The Linux version that got dropped has been mentioned. > Is there any reason why the program cannot be installed on a machine running > Debian squeeze? It's a different OS, may well be a different CPU. You would need to have an emulator to emulate the OS, and probably the CPU, as well. It would be nice if such an emulator existed, but I doubt it. Writing an emulator is hard work and takes a fair mount of time. > My interest is in logistics, as I realize the software may be better suited > for networks, not individual computers. > Thanks, > Karen Worderfect 5 for the old classic Mac OS might run under one of the Macintosh emulators. Wine Is Not an Emulator, but it does something sort of like emulation and allows some older versions of WordPerfect for DOS or MSWindows OS x86 to run on Linux, as has been mentioned. Not very satisfactory, however. Better option is to set up a virtual machine (another kind of emulator, really) to run MSWindows in and run a recent version of WordPerfect MSWindows version in the virtual machine. QEMU, Xen, and some other VMs exist. -- Joel Rees Be careful when you look at conspiracy.1 Look first in your own heart, and ask yourself if you are not your own worst enemy. Arm yourself with knowledge of yourself, as well. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caar43ioybjuygoxqyygqu0lr8sr9dte+wxdbabvl8njxt_l...@mail.gmail.com
Re: wordperfect 5.1 for unix, and debian?
I still have the fourteen years old CDs of the Corel Linux distribution, which came with WordPerfect. Re-installed it a couple months ago so I could print some old WP for DOS documents I had, which did not format properly in more recent versions, or under LibreOffice. Had to dig out an old Pentium II box, as the install would not work on more recent hardware ;-3( Seems you can still find it for download on the net. Cheers, Ron. -- Behind every successful man there stands a woman, telling him he is wrong. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141217103541.4cf75...@ron.cerrocora.org
Re: wordperfect 5.1 for unix, and debian?
Hi again, I appreciate all You provided in this exchange. Please do not go to over much trouble. as I use wp every single day on my main computer, and only had a desire to find something I might personally do with my Debian box, I will not lose anything if by chance my copy will only run in a Unix structure. I am not bothered paying for what I consider a worth while professional investment, weather financially or in energy. It may be a fun experiment, but not a critical requirement. Kare On Wed, 17 Dec 2014, Doug wrote: On 12/16/2014 11:34 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: YOu know? I need to check this edition then, because it is far more current than 1995 I am sure. Kare Ok, I was guessing 1995, it was later. I found my copy of Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux, Personal Edition. The disk is copyright 1998. If you have a version for Unix, it might never have run on Linux at all. If you have some kind of Unix, you could always try it and see what happens. There are various BCD versions around, which will supposedly run on a PC. I installed PCBCD, but I couldn't get it to boot on a multi-boot system, and I don't have a spare PC to try it on. In spite of the fact that I "never" throw anything out, I can't find the copy of Solaris I was going to offer you. It came from about 2000. If you know what kind of Unix the WP was made for, and what year, I bet you can find a Unix that will run it, on eBay, or Amazon. Most Unixes were not free, however. Maybe the obsolescent ones are at least reasonable! And, of course, most Unixes did not run on PCs, but some did--the Solaris I had would. If by chance I find it, I'll let you know. --doug -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54911461.2050...@optonline.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pine.bsf.4.64.1412170831160.11...@server1.shellworld.net
Re: mpd/systemd problem
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 21:20:48 -0800 Don Armstrong wrote: > On Wed, 17 Dec 2014, sp113438 wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 01:08:03 +0200 > > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > > Please post the output of > > > > > > systemctl status mpd > > > > # systemctl status mpd > > ● mpd.service - Music Player Daemon > >Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/mpd.service; enabled) > >Active: active (running) since Wed 2014-12-17 04:18:21 CET; 53min > > left Main PID: 571 (mpd) > >CGroup: /system.slice/mpd.service > >└─571 /usr/bin/mpd --no-daemon > > It's not clear to me why service mpd stop; isn't enough to stop this > particular one, but the following will stop mpd: > > systemctl disable mpd.service; systemctl disable mpd.socket; > > Please also file a bug against mpd. > This: systemctl disable mpd.service; systemctl disable mpd.socket; is not able to stop mpd Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141217135711.561df8a7@fx4100
Re: wordperfect 5.1 for unix, and debian?
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Rusi Mody wrote: > On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 11:00:03 AM UTC+5:30, Doug wrote: >> On 12/16/2014 11:34 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >> > YOu know? >> > I need to check this edition then, because it is far more current than >> > 1995 I am sure. >> > Kare >> > >> > >> Ok, I was guessing 1995, it was later. I found my copy of Corel WordPerfect >> 8 for Linux, Personal Edition. The disk is copyright 1998. >> If you have a version for Unix, it might never have run on Linux at all. If >> you have some kind of Unix, you could always try it and see >> what happens. There are various BCD versions around, which will supposedly >> run on a PC. I installed PCBCD, but I couldn't get it to boot >> on a multi-boot system, and I don't have a spare PC to try it on. In spite >> of the fact that I "never" throw anything out, I can't find >> the copy of Solaris I was going to offer you. It came from about 2000. If >> you know what kind of Unix the WP was made for, and what year, >> I bet you can find a Unix that will run it, on eBay, or Amazon. Most Unixes >> were not free, however. Maybe the obsolescent ones are at >> least reasonable! And, of course, most Unixes did not run on PCs, but some >> did--the Solaris I had would. If by chance I find it, I'll >> let you know. >> >> --doug > > At least some versions seem to run on crossover > https://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/search?name=Wordperfect&search=app > > So maybe wine as well Back in the mid-to-late 1980s, WordPerfect was running native on quite a large number of Unix OSses. It was known as a cross-platform word processor. And the company was still small enough to care about things like that, too. WordPerfect Corp getting to big did as much damage as the failure to adjust the Mac version to the Mac environment, and was probably what made the company weak enough for Microsoft to launch a sucessful attack. -- Joel Rees Be careful when you look at conspiracy. Look first in your own heart, and ask yourself if you are not your own worst enemy. Arm yourself with knowledge of yourself, as well. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caar43ip5gzbcorqcm5wrl3k2htb_jxbqge5pku+gactvdyp...@mail.gmail.com
Re: mpd/systemd problem
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Tue, 16 Dec 2014, Don Armstrong wrote: > > It's not clear to me why service mpd stop; isn't enough to stop this > > particular one, but the following will stop mpd: > > Because our support for systemd socket activation in invoke-rc.d is broken > (as in invoke-rc.d stop _does not_ stop socket-activated units, just the > main unit). Every package that has socket activation is affected. Sorry, my answer was misleading and likely incorrect for this situation. "service" _is_ quite capable of doing the right thing, so if it doesn't stop mpd, the issue is in the mpd package. OTOH, "invoke-rc.d" really is buggy in that regard, so if the issue shows up during package updates/removals, it is invoke-rc.d's fault for not stopping the socket service. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141217120930.gb25...@khazad-dum.debian.net
Re: mpd/systemd problem
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014, Don Armstrong wrote: > It's not clear to me why service mpd stop; isn't enough to stop this > particular one, but the following will stop mpd: Because our support for systemd socket activation in invoke-rc.d is broken (as in invoke-rc.d stop _does not_ stop socket-activated units, just the main unit). Every package that has socket activation is affected. There's a bunch of bugs against invoke-rc.d about it, and I might even get around to fixing the issue out of general annoyance soon[1], but it would be best if someone that actually runs systemd did it and submitted a tested patch. [1] I expected to have done it already, but I got sidetracked and my Debian time is greatly reduced right now. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141217114643.ga25...@khazad-dum.debian.net
Re: mpd/systemd problem SOLVED
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 02:44:21AM +0100, sp113438 wrote: > On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 01:08:03 +0200 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Ma, 16 dec 14, 17:57:56, sp113438 wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I have a problem with updating mpd and/or systemd. > > > > > > > > > Preparing to unpack .../m/mpd/mpd_0.19.1-1.1_amd64.deb ... > > > Job for mpd.service canceled. > > > invoke-rc.d: initscript mpd, action "stop" failed. > > > dpkg: warning: subprocess old pre-removal script returned error exit > > > status 1 dpkg: trying script from the new package instead ... > > > Job for mpd.service canceled. > > > invoke-rc.d: initscript mpd, action "stop" failed. > > > dpkg: error processing > > > archive /home/debmirror/pool/main/m/mpd/mpd_0.19.1-1.1_amd64.deb > > > (--unpack): subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit > > > status 1 > > > > Please post the output of > > > > systemctl status mpd > > > > I also noticed that mpd also has a .socket unit. If you something is > > trying to use mpd it will get restarted via the socket. > > > > Kind regards, > > Andrei > > The problem is solved by renaming /usr/bin/mpd , stop mpd and then update. > > The following: > > systemctl stop mpd.service > killall mpd > kill -9 *2600* > mpd --kill > /etc/init.d/mpd stop > > all didn't succeed > > I guess I have to blame systemd. Really? You "kill -9"ed the process, it failed to stop and you're blaming systemd? I know systemd is the current whipping-boy but that seems harsh to me. First of all, see why mpd is unresponsive (it may be in the 'D' state, which usually indicates that it's waiting for I/O - if that's the case, the process doesn't even notice the kill signal). If you can't kill it, then don't expect systemd to be able to, either. > > Thanks! > > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141217024421.19320b03@fx4100 > signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: change subject of emails on ISP's IMAP server
Curt writes: > On 2014-12-16, Rob Owens wrote: >> >>> Apparently, this is what imapfilter will do. You'll need to write a lua >>> script to tell it what to do, but it looks like it comes with some >>> hackable examples. >> >> Thanks. I see the following example in some of the imapfilter docs. I'll > > The problem I see is that once imapfilter fetches the message, processes > it, and uploads it to the same mailbox, what is to prevent your ISP from > prepending ***UNCHECKED*** to the header of the message once again, > seeing that it will be just as unscannable as before? > > Or will it not be scanned a second time or something? It depends on where in the process the ISP does the scanning. >From experience, they usually do that in the delivery process, either up front at the start of the SMTP transaction, or in the delivery phase (with either LMTP, or an MDA). I've not heard of ISPs who scan mail in IMAP transactions. Mart -- "We will need a longer wall when the revolution comes." --- AJS, quoting an uncertain source. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/86siged0wz@gaheris.avalon.lan
Re: Flash problems
Op 16-12-14 om 17:57 schreef Jape Person: > On 12/16/2014 11:32 AM, Paul van der Vlis wrote: > >> Look good when you buy hardware. I don't use non-free drivers, that's >> not a big problem. But sometimes I use non-free firmware and microcode. > > I've never looked good when buying hardware. I have no sense of style. > > But seriously, I've been careful, but it's pretty hard to find notebooks > that have the capabilities I want without at least having to install one > (usually wifi) driver. When using a newer Linux kernel, most wifi adapters have a driver. I think you mean non-free firmware. In my opinion non-free firmware in wifi cards is something else. A manufacturer could also use a ROM where they flashed it in, then loading the firmware was not necessary. That code is not running on the main processor. Of cause I like free firmware more, like some more difficult to find wifi cards offer. But a wifi with free drivers is easy to find. >>> Gnash disappeared from testing a little while ago, and the lightspark >>> plugin doesn't play anything, anywhere, ever for me. >>> >>> Makes me happy that html5 is beginning to catch on. >>> >>> I agree that gnash was pretty frumpy, but I could at least play videos >>> at youtube. Not sure what folks using Jessie are supposed to do for >>> flash besides go nonfree. >> >> Most sites, including Youtube, are working fine with HTML5. > > I should check that out. I don't really spend much time there except to > look for classical piano music. For at least a while after introduction > of html5 they had not yet converted much of the media to that kind of > streaming. Is everything converted now? So far I saw on Youtube: yes. And this is the case for most sites. But I have seen sites where some older video's where not accessible and where they ask for flash. Strange enough, it did sometimes help to refresh the browser, sometimes it played then without problems. Realize that tablets and smartphones don't offer flash too. With regards, Paul van der Vlis. -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer, Groningen http://www.vandervlis.nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5491589d.6050...@vandervlis.nl
Re: mpd/systemd problem
On Ma, 16 dec 14, 21:20:48, Don Armstrong wrote: > > It's not clear to me why service mpd stop; isn't enough to stop this > particular one, but the following will stop mpd: Works for me. Possibly more information about clients in use might help. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Problem with AFS token and sudo in Jessie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear all, I'm using Debian jessie with openAFS and Kerberos. I found a strange behaviour that I could not pin down to a single package so far, maybe somebody has any ideas: The AFS token is gone after using sudo, first looking very similar to the (solved) bug #621496 from 2011. After each sudo command, one needs to use "aklog" to get a new AFS token. Yet, I suspect that the bug is different from the 2011 one: First, it not only happens for passwordless sudo, but also when the user is forced to enter the password. Second, I have a PC running with Jessie that does not show this bug - this Jessie wasn't upgraded for some time (around September 2014). Another PC which is up-to-date shows this bug, as well as a new installation I did recently (which is also up-to-date). The config files or our Kerberos/AFS setup did not change since I setup this PC, only the packages were upgraded with apt-get. The problem now is: The version of the libpam-afs-session package is the same in the working and the non-working image. In addition, I selectivly upgraded the openafs-krb5 and the openafs-client as well as openafs-modules-dkms to the most recent version in Jessie (the "starting point" see below). This did not introduce the bug - sudo is still working as intended. Since I'm not too familiar with AFS/Kerberos/PAM I decided to ask you if you have any ideas what I could try to pin down the reason for this? Any packages to upgrade to see if they are responsible for this? If I should provide more details / config files / information, please let me know. I'll see if I find the time to do a test setup with sid to check the newest version of the packages, but maybe my problem is far easier and somebody knows what to do. Best regards, Christoph Schober The following versions are from the (older) working image before starting selective upgrades: Versions of packages openafs-krb5 depends on: ii libc6 2.18-7 ii libcomerr21.42.10-1 ii libk5crypto3 1.12.1+dfsg-1 ii libkrb5-3 1.12.1+dfsg-1 oo openafs-client 1.6.7-1 oo openafs-krb5 1.6.7-1 Linux version 3.14-1-amd64 (debian-ker...@lists.debian.org) (gcc version 4.8.2 (Debian 4.8.2-21) ) #1 SMP Debian 3.14.4-1 (2014-05-13) @@@ The information collected by reportbug when I thought to report the bug to the openafs-krb5 package: - -- System Information: Debian Release: 8.0 APT prefers testing-updates APT policy: (500, 'testing-updates'), (500, 'testing') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Foreign Architectures: i386 Kernel: Linux 3.16-3-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system) Versions of packages openafs-krb5 depends on: ii libc6 2.19-13 ii libcomerr21.42.12-1 ii libk5crypto3 1.12.1+dfsg-15 ii libkrb5-3 1.12.1+dfsg-15 - -- Christoph Schober GnuPG key Id 0x3B6914EB -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUkUXgAAoJENHdu+iSulRgC0AP/RJk+SGt26jM40H1z0rS0JZh 3hv0wujYREM9OlRqrvlZdSpEb/3HIM2Z+FYCSleHX/+tcspEIluJO5NIRonZORGj TXXU98KMG4q7uiqrPyUPzv6IBcFgf93ffGk2D2sPCTty/FW49FBfsPuNqn6rRtzj 2YtCnKtqGLlITT0+1oOH1grSuTMphDFnXEp9/QDiOmloeV5yNF/jKMb9wBQLNGmP 8mxUa7ofzvkoqbFAZEL6XtirPEBa8pD+Nxl9vvppaNLUSfkxKmyQFEikR/CTIkmf oUbL+oLVKFjwh1Z9aq9CBRvrYRicN+HUUPipJVzuIVAXxHVCiFVRjV6QFDzyidlZ d/U4nq9GqVTQtTwiLTkI2xG+MiZyxSh3s87C1EihD7NOyly9HD7BuXcx9hyr98WB cjtSaQoJIl+izFQ0tGECJsevva37oGtcpHe3jmCFJbl2rk8N8/NU5XnnAtee8mk7 wUbi8JJDgzsRhP8UgQcjBl7/p1WgoP1kXsARTJvjqSqQPjIDfqzwLMjuF0DUBBel pixn/UclW6ebuqXjMyfMdUC1trp9ewUj3b+ujlE5vfdAVoDgCkqd5jRDDVdsBilh uNloVdu/UeisKt5xDcN1yLEImOHBIYBZZT2AL9hcMVSGQVBJ5Kgh7ajznxmqZMvC pm07NvoqrSakE2T25kdA =viZ9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/549145e0.2000...@ch.tum.de
jessie: samba/cifs ls rsync unusably slow (lstat)
Dear all, after upgrading to jessie I have a serious problem with a cifs mounted Windows share: Directory listing is extremely slow. ls of a large directory can take several minutes, rsync comparison of directories (lstat call for every file) needs 30+ minutes (with wheezy: 23 seconds). I tried downgrading samba and/or rsync to the wheezy versions but it did not help. Up- and downloads are still as fast as before, it's the same hardware as before. Any ideas what else I could try? Best regards, Christian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54913cd1.7020...@shamanbenefit.net
