Re: Fwd: fglrx-driver [SOLUCIONADO]
El chipset que montan las radeon 7xxx pertenece a la familia southern island que sí está soportado por el driver libre aunque es posible que alguna funcionalidad concreta esté pendiente pero eso no le debe impedir su funcionamiento. Hoy he actualizado el equipo y el problema se ha resuelto tras eliminar el fglrx, está funcionando con el driver radeon, que de momento me va perfecto. Gracias a tod@s por la ayuda, y de nuevo sin html ;-) Javier Silva. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOg_h5bTGe=9pk+=WjJPVG4pQL5vEW-U=ocm90visawvy_p...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Linux, Windows y reinicios
buenas, lo que tengo entendido que con el windows 8 si que puede pasarte algo así si no le quitas la opción de guardado rápido. Pero excepto ese punto no creo que haya más peligro si haces las cosas como toca :) . saludos y feliz año nuevo! Laura 2015-01-03 18:48 GMT+01:00 Juan Lavieri jlavi...@gmail.com: El 03/01/15 a las 09:26, Carlos Jimenez escibió: Tengo entendido que se puede dañar el sistema de archivos, cosa reparable, pero con cierto riesgo de pérdida de información. Solo si apagas o reinicias a lo bruto. Si dejas que los sistemas operativos hagan su trabajo no debería haber mayores problemas. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54a82b87.1010...@gmail.com -- --- http://laupri.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Re: What happens when a bad package is in Debian stable?
On Sat, 03 Jan 2015, Bob Proulx wrote: What if the new version cannot be fixed? Is the new version of the package simply removed? Is an even newer version added that actually matches the previous working version until bad one can be fixed and added again? Since a release has been made it cannot ever be removed from that release. Once something is done it cannot be undone. It may be removed in a later point release. That will not remove it from your system however. As you wrote, usually the package is just removed in the next opportunity, a notice is posted, and it is up to the user to remove it from his system. Some (all?) package managers can track such packages that are not any longer in a repository. aptitude will show them as local packages, for example. However, for extreme hazards, we upload a fixup (possibly empty) package that does whatever is required to defuse the bomb, even if it means directly editing things in the dpkg scripts database. This is very very rare, though. I cannot recall any specific instance. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150104121714.gb28...@khazad-dum.debian.net
Re: Unable to upgrade testing system
On Sat, Jan 03, 2015 at 08:01:36PM -0500, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: On 1/3/15, Siard shiems...@kpnplanet.nl wrote: I can confirm that I have been able to fix these very problems using aptitude. It was an install of jessie that had not been updated for a month or two giving these errors, whereas another install of jessie that had been updated regularly, did not have such problems. The successful, regularly updated one as being in incremental steps versus the not so regularly updated one with glitches being one facing a larger step sure stands out. I've seen the same mentioned about different offshoots of Debian.. Recommendations are to do baby steps in upgrades there.. Example: Jessie's frozen not long back. There will be fewer changes but packages are gradually updated to fix bugs / packages are removed for releasse critical bugs. [Made up numbers follow] Suppose there are 1000 fixes overall in about three months. You have a choice of doing: 100 tiny upgrades, each fixing 10 bugs at a time. One upgrade a week - fixing about 96 bugs a time One upgrade a month - fixing about 330 bugs a time One upgrade in the three month period at the end - fixing all 1000 bugs. There is always the chance that you'll miss a package change which may break soemthing else the longer you leave it. if the marginal cost to you of doing the upgrades is small - you've got three or four minutes to spend while your machine checks updates and installs each time - Are you better to spend 400 - 500 minutes - 6 1/2 - 8 1/3 hours - doing 100 tiny update checks each of which is likely to succeed? Twelve upgrades - each taking half an hour to an hour in total because it may take longer to download packages - 6 - 12 hours? Four upgrades - each of which will take anything up to a couple of hours by the time they've downloaded the packages / unpacked and installed them - 8 hours - 16 hours? One upgrade, which may go well - set aside a couple of hours - or might take significantly longer and may cause problems you may have to sort out? People report issues regularly if they try to skip a couple major upgrades in between what they're using and whatever is just released. In that same realm, I've also seen it regularly advocated that users take the time and use the necessary additional resources to go through every other major missed release point before landing at the last, latest one.. I've pondered out loud about it before somewhere.. It's obvious something regularly doesn't cog together well somehow, but I wonder what. What is it that works about incremental that so regularly doesn't if someone for any reason misses a couple seemingly minuscule upgrade points in between? I wonder how we users can nail down what's going on to help make it occur less so forever after.. *cough-cough* #Usability *cough-cough* :) It's good to know that Aptitude helped. It would be interesting to hear what Aptitude *does* do under the hood when users tell it to try again.. Each, our favorite package managers... they're what make Debian rock and roll.. Cindy :) -- Cindy-Sue Causey Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * runs with plastic sporks * -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAO1P-kDd1OEnEjm3m0iZp3v=lrrvte2vobq-hdt-ftcbzt2...@mail.gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150104123826.ga2...@galactic.demon.co.uk
Soucis avec Boinc Manager après la dernière mise à jour du noyau
Salut. J'utilise une Debian Wheezy stable, avec quelques backports. Lors de la dernière mise à jour du noyau (3.2.65-1 x86_64), j'ai remarqué que boincmgr ne se lançait plus automatiquement après reboot. Un lancement manuel me donne ce message d'erreur : nico@gaston:~$ boincmgr boincmgr: symbol lookup error: boincmgr: undefined symbol: _ZN6CONFIG8defaultsEv Je n'ai rien trouvé sur ce symbole sur Google... Any help on this ? \bye -- Nicolas FRANCOIS | /\ http://nicolas.francois.free.fr | |__| X--/\\ We are the Micro$oft. _\_V Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. darthvader penguin -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150104145229.436b6...@gaston.baronie.vez
compiled php 5.5.20 throws error [RewriteRule directive is forbidden: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/php55-cgi]
Dear list, I am already messed-up compiling php 5.5.20 as cgi module and seeking your kind guidance to put the things back on track. I have compiled php 5.5.20 on debian (wheezy) 7.7 The objective is to allow some websites run with php 5.5.x as cgi module The source code is located at /usr/local/src/php5-build/php-5.5.20 and compiled at /usr/local/bin/php-5.5.20 [...] ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/bin/php-5.5.20 --with-config-file-path=/usr/local/bin/php-5.5.20 --enable-cgi .. [] A /usr/lib/cgi-bin/php55-cgi has been created with following [.] #!/bin/sh PHP_FCGI_CHILDREN=1 export PHP_FCGI_CHILDREN PHP_FCGI_MAX_REQUESTS=5000 export PHP_FCGI_MAX_REQUESTS exec /usr/local/bin/php-5.5.20/bin/php-cgi -c /usr/local/bin/php-5.5.20/lib/php.ini [] and it is able to parse php [...] /usr/lib/cgi-bin/php55-cgi /var/www/testme/phpinfo.php | grep PHP/ X-Powered-By: PHP/5.5.20 [...] A /etc/apache2/php55.conf has also been created with following [...] ScriptAlias /php5-cgi /usr/lib/cgi-bin/php55-cgi Action application/x-httpd-php5 /php5-cgi AddHandler application/x-httpd-php5 .php .php5 .php4 .php3 .phtml [.] and included at apache2.conf After successful restart of apache a .htaccess has been placed at the required web-root folder ... Options +FollowSymLinks +SymLinksIfOwnerMatch RewriteEngine On FilesMatch \.php SetHandler application/x-httpd-php5 /FilesMatch ... BUT the apache error log throws error as , [Thu Jan 01 09:03:22 2015] [error] [client 192.168.1.116] Options FollowSymLinks or SymLinksIfOwnerMatch is off which implies that RewriteRule directive is forbidden: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/php55-cgi [Thu Jan 01 09:03:22 2015] [debug] mod_deflate.c(700): [client 192.168.1.116] Zlib: Compressed 287 to 219 : URL /php5-cgi/testme/phpinfo.php Though the required modules are loaded already # a2enmod rewrite actions fcgid Module rewrite already enabled Module actions already enabled Module fcgid already enabled ' I'm clueless, anyone Please ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150102093454.599c9...@shiva.selfip.org
Rendszergazdai szolgáltatások
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Re: multiple versions of python
1] Can I have multiple versions of python simultaneously? yes Using Debian Wheezy I have 3 python versions installed # ls -1 /usr/lib | grep python | grep -v lib python python2.6 python2.7 python3 python3.2 python is python2.7 python3 is python3.2 === 2] Is there a way to specify that one package use a non-default version of python ? yes Use the specific python version name when starting your program pythonX.Y /path/to/zProgram.py For example, I have a small program that only prints the current python version that it has been started with $ python $p/amisc/version.py python version 2.7.3 $ python2.6 $p/amisc/version.py python version 2.6.8 $ python2.7 $p/amisc/version.py python version 2.7.3 $ python3 $p/amisc/version.py python version 3.2.3 $ python3.2 $p/amisc/version.py python version 3.2.3 Using the name python is the same as using the name python2.7 python2.7 is the default version Using the name python3 is the same as using the name python3.2 === 3] Is this a quick, straightforward install ? yes Use the Debian package manager to install the different python versions # sudo apt-get install python # sudo apt-get install python3 If you start your python programs using specific python version names nothing else should be necessary -- Stanley C. Kitching Human Being Phoenix, Arizona -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/m8bm3f$a3c$1...@dont-email.me
Re: [OT] Debian Lines theme para SLiM
El Sat, 03 Jan 2015 15:28:37 -0600, Esteban Monge escribió: El 2015-01-01 08:56, Camaleón escribió: El Wed, 31 Dec 2014 09:40:27 -0600, Esteban Monge escribió: Hice un thema para SLiM, un Desktop Manager muy liviano, me he basado en el thema Lines para Debian 8. Tenía días de querer subirlo a algún lado, así que no quería irme sin cerrar el año sin hacerlo. Lo subí a GitHub... de momento no he podido tomarle un screenshot =$. Bueno, sólo hay dos imágenes :-) Que raro yo veo todos los archivos: COPYRIGHT.background COPYRIGHT.panel background.png panel.png slim.theme Sí, yo también veo todos los archivos. Me refería a que no era necesario un screenshot porque sólo hay dos imágenes en el tema y la imagen de fondo es la del tema Lines ;-) https://github.com/EstebanMonge/slim-themes/blob/master/debian-lines/ background.png https://github.com/EstebanMonge/slim-themes/blob/master/debian-lines/ panel.png Pero lo pueden bajar de acá: https://github.com/EstebanMonge/slim-themes Por cierto, me parece que Slim está abandonado ¿sabes algo? Desde que cerró Berlios... el desarrollo se detuvo, no obstante en GitHub está el código fuente: https://github.com/data-modul/slim Hum... el último envío (commit) que veo es del 2013. Mal rollito. Parece que un desarrollador de Debian le da mantenimiento. En Febrero por ejemplo se subió la última versión del mismo... que para ser este proyecto es buena noticia... Sería una pena que desapareciera porque no hay muchos gestores de sesión que tengan tan pocas dependencias como slim, más allá de XDM pero creo que éste no permite inicio automático de sesión. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2015.01.04.16.15...@gmail.com
Re: How to undo Java installation and settings
On Saturday 03 January 2015 22:12:55 Dalios wrote: I am wondering if I should just uninstall every package with java or jre in its name and then just re-install one of the open-jdk or icedtea packages and let apt do its magic... I'd be tempted! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501041616.48199.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Late authentication
I run Debian Wheezy with a simple window manager (Blackbox). If I remember correctly, in Ubuntu some applications like Synaptic and Update Manager ask for sudo password only when/if needed. How do I configure the system so I can launch for instance Update Manager as normal user, check if there are any updates available and then provide the sudo password only if the system is to be updated? As Far as I understand the authentication is handled by Polkit. Regards, August -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/m8bo60$4ea$1...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: Linux, Windows y reinicios
El Sun, 04 Jan 2015 08:08:25 +0100, Altair Linux escribió: (...) Me ha gustado la informacion de lo del boton del reset y el del encendido y apagado, lo malo es cuando no responde ni el teclado, ¿que haces entonces?. Disponer de una salida de emergencia, es decir, tener activado el servicio ssh para poder acceder al sistema desde otro equipo, ya sea local o remoto. O tirar del tan manido REISUB que realmente funciona ;-) Ahora bien, no hay que confundir las cosas: un apagado normal no se produce cuando no responde el teclado ni el ratón, en esa situación deberías resolver por qué ha dejado de funcionar el periférico, cómo solucionarlo para que no vuelva a suceder e intentar apagar el equipo correctamente, no a lo bruto. ¿El propio sistema operativo se da cuenta de que esta congelado (o como se llame ese estado) y reinicia el solo al cabo de X tiempo, o no queda otra opcion que darle al reset?. Dependerá de lo que haya sucedido. Por ejemplo, podría ser (alguna vez me ha pasado) que el teclado que va conectado al puerto PS/2 deja de responder, y aunque no sea plug play, reconectarlo lo devuelve a la vida o también pinchando un teclado/ratón al puerto USB (los USB para mí son como un especie de flotadores que me permiten despertar al equipo). También podría deberse a un fallo del periférico en sí (teclado o ratón dañados) o un problema con el servidor X, en cuyo caso y si el sistema sigue funcionando y sólo se ha queado colgado el entorno gráfico, conectarse mediante ssh te soluciona el problema. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2015.01.04.16.28...@gmail.com
Re: Apt-cache não atualiza lista de pacotes
Cara a solução é simples, use o seu sudo para dar o apt-get. como o problema é de permissão, creio que o problema seria resolvido assim ou com você utilizando o usuário root. Em quarta-feira, 10 de dezembro de 2014, Antonio Terceiro terce...@debian.org escreveu: On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:20:24PM -0200, Enio Climaco Sales Junior wrote: Não costumo usar o aptitude, mas ele só abre como root. você está enganado. O aptitude roda normalmente com usuário não-root pra consulta. o problema é que no *seu sistema* os arquivos que o aptitude precisa ler (mas não escrever) não têm permissão de leitura para o seu usuário: $ aptitude search bluefish E: Abrindo /etc/apt/sources.list - ifstream::ifstream (13: Permissão negada) E: Abrindo /etc/apt/sources.list - ifstream::ifstream (13: Permissão negada) E: A lista de fontes não pode ser lida. veja: $ aptitude search aptitude i aptitude [...] [... funciona ... ] $ sudo chmod 0600 /etc/apt/sources.list $ aptitude search aptitude E: Opening /etc/apt/sources.list - ifstream::ifstream (13: Permission denied) E: Opening /etc/apt/sources.list - ifstream::ifstream (13: Permission denied) E: The list of sources could not be read. [255]$ sudo chmod 0644 /etc/apt/sources.list $ aptitude search aptitude i aptitude [...] [... funciona ... ] -- Antonio Terceiro terce...@debian.org -- Atenciosamente, Rodrigo da Silva Cunha
Re: Linux, Windows y reinicios
El Sat, 03 Jan 2015 23:19:15 +0100, Raúl Alexis Betancor Santana escribió: Sería bueno hacer un par de precisiones ... Más de un par, diría yo. (...) ¿que puede pasar cuando tienes en un ordenador Windows (para jugar) y Debian, y lo tienes que reiniciar al menos una vez al dia para ir de un sistema operativo a otro?. Los pantallazos propios de Windows van aparte. Ya sea por reinicio desde el sistema operativo o dandole al boton de reset. ¿Que debe pasar?, como dice Camaleón: nada. Falso, pueden pasar muchas cosas, algunas relacionadas con el hardware ... y otras con el sistema operativo, sobre todo en sistemas Windows. En el universo conocido pasan muchas cosas continuamente pero sería conveniente que dijeras qué es exactamente lo que puede pasar al reiniciar un equipo porque de eso estamos hablando. Mucha gente tiene la falsa impresión de que cuanto menos enciendas un ordenador será mejor para él, lo ven como si tuviera una especie de contador que cuando llega a un punto deja de funcionar, percepción que es completamente errónea y equivocada. Las máquinas, todas sin excepción, se diseñan para funcionar, para que trabajen. Si dejas un coche unos meses sin arrancar se agota la batería, una impresora de tinta con la que no imprime en un par de semanas te dará problemas con los inyectores porque seguramente se le habrá secado la tinta y estarán obstruidos, etc... Hasta un martillo es feliz haciendo el trabajo para el que ha sido diseñado: dar golpes ;-) En efecto, para poder pasar de windows a linux y de regreso hay que reiniciar el equipo. Pero aquí entre en juego lo que algunos llaman buenas prácticas. Lo más civilizado como casi todos te han dicho es darle tiempo al sistema operativo a terminar todos sus procesos y que cierren correctamente. Eso quiere decir que no debes aplicar el botonazo ni con el de reset ni con el de encendido/apagado. De hecho yo sugeriría que manualmente cierres todas las ventanas de los programas que uses antes de reiniciar el sistema desde el menú. En debian yo uso en terminal sudo init 6 pero no sé si sea algo recomendable o desaconsejado, a mi no me da problemas aun. Tirar de botón, puede generar problemas en el hardware, pero sobre todo en el software. El software no es nada sin el hardware ¿a qué te refieres con que se puede generar un problema en el software? ¿Puede producirse una avería?. Me da que si, pero pregunto por si acaso. Las averías pueden provocarse precisamente por la imprudencia del usuario que guste de dar botonazos sin más, por lo demás no sé que avería podría causarse, pensando en un equipo que se enciende y apaga normalmente y está conectado a una instalación eléctrica bien hecha sin grandes variaciones. 'Fatiga de los materiales' ... busca ese término en google. Todos los componentes está diseñados con un desgaste en mente y en el caso de los discos duros hasta te dicen una estimación de horas de funcionamiento. Eso es normal y nadie ha dicho que el desgaste no exista cuando reinicias (pones en funcionamiento) un equipo. Ahora que, si no quieres que haya desgaste ni fatiga, mejor no inicies el ordenador, no uses el lápiz y no cojas el coche, así te durarán más ;-) ¿Puede interesar algo en especial?. Por ejemplo: si hay cierto riesgo de que se vaya la luz, interesa un SAI. Un SAI como ya te explicaron puede ser útil, sobre todo si estás expuesto a variaciones altas de voltaje que superan las que la fuente del equipo por si misma puede soportar. En este rubro creo que también es importante señalar que las fuentes lo que hacen es convertir la corriente alterna en directa que usa la electrónica dentro de la maquina y su eficiencia es de al rededor del 60 % en una fuente convencional, mientras que las de alto rendimiento apenas rebasan el 80 % pero en ningún caso una fuente por si sola supera a un SAI. ¿Sabes que existen fuentes con eficiencia del 93%?, no para gama domestica, sino para gama de servidores datacenter. La eficiencia de la PSU es indiferente cuando se produce una bajada o un pico de tensión que no es capaz de gestionar. Muchas fuentes 80+ mueren jóvenes porque su circuitería no admite picos más allá de los que tiene definidos y esos valores no suelen ser muy flexibles de ahí que el uso de un SAI sea requisito indispensable en ciertos entornos donde mantener los equipos al 100% sea vital. Una ultima cosa respecto a Windows, no sé si lo has notado pero desde 7 (o tal vez Vista) Windows tiene problemas para cerrarse y reiniciar, por lo que sé, no le da tiempo suficiente a sus procesos de cerrarse y por ello puede estropearse. De hecho creo que es parte de los detalles en windows 8 que trae por lo que leí en una respuesta anterior. No sé que tan buenos juegos tenga Steam, pero tengo un amigo que gusta de los videojuegos y me ha dado buenos comentarios de esa plataforma y la puedes instalar en debian seguramente. Parte del problema de Win8 es
Re: compiled php 5.5.20 throws error [RewriteRule directive is forbidden: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/php55-cgi]
Bob: [Thu Jan 01 09:03:22 2015] [error] [client 192.168.1.116] Options FollowSymLinks or SymLinksIfOwnerMatch is off which implies that RewriteRule directive is forbidden: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/php55-cgi AFAICT, this error is completely unrelated to PHP. My guess would be that Apache doesn't read your .htaccess file and your settings aren't applied. Since you appear to have access to the Apache configuration, you should just add the directives from the .htaccess file to the appropriate VirtualHost section. J. -- I frequently find myself at the top of the stairs with absolutely nothing happening in my brain. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian right for my use?
On 01/02/2015 10:42 AM, John L. Ries wrote: Debian might well work for your purposes as it's relatively easy to set up and has a huge software repository; but your problem appears to be memory. If your CAD software was sluggish even when you were running Windows 7 directly, it's not going to be better when you're running Windows in a VM. I'm thinking that your VM will need access to at *least* 10 GB of RAM and all your CPU cores (both parameters are user configurable). My usual rule of thumb is that there should be at least as much virtual memory as RAM, so you may need another hard drive as well (depending on how full your current one is). In any case, if you're otherwise comfortable with Ubuntu, then there is no real need to switch, though stable releases of Debian are notoriously conservative, which may be a good thing in your case (as long as you're not looking for the latest features in the packages you install). And you may want to try to run your CAD software in Wine (in which case, you'll still need to buy some more RAM). It might work or might not, but if it does, then you won't need the VM which will make your life simpler. And you may want to see if there is a native Linux CAD system that suits your purposes, as native executables will always run better than foreign ones, no matter what OS you're running (but I can't help you there as I don't do CAD). One thing you should look at regardless is what the memory usage (real and virtual) is when you're running your CAD software; you're probably going to want at least as much physical RAM as it's using overall. Hope it helps... --| John L. Ries | Salford Systems | Phone: (619)543-8880 x107 | or (435)867-8885 | --| On Wednesday 2014-12-31 21:35, Cadman wrote: Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 21:35:30 From: Cadman cadg...@hotmail.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Debian right for my use? Greetings I need help determining whether Debian OS is the right OS for my needs. I am a Draftsman working from home due to physical handicaps. I use graphic and RAM memory intensive 3D CAD software in Windows 7. My W7 OS is operating poorly and is expensive to replace. If Linux is right for me; I need to replace it with a 1. Very stable, 2. With least amount of configuring and 3. User Friendly Linux OS. A friend suggested that I replace Windows 7 with Ubuntu Trusty 14.04, which I did. It worked fine until I installed my 3D CAD software within Virtual Box. Since then Ubuntu and the software crashes often. It even reboots instead of turning the screen black when the 10 minute screen saver feature operates. My PC System Info is: BioStar A780L3C Motherboard AMD Athlon(tm) II X3 450 Processor × 3 64 Bit 8 Gig RAM Memory 150 Gig Hard Drive Please respond Thank You Very Much Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/blu436-smtp543fdd547d109bfe301d9ebb...@phx.gbl I'm using an old copy of AutoCad 14 and have been a Debian user for years. I tried Wine and had nothing but fits with the AutoCad not working properly. I switched to Virtualbox with and old copy of Windows XP installed. I'm using Debian Wheezy at the moment and with the virtualbox setup am having absolutely no problems. I prefer Debian over Ubuntu. I think Debian is more stable. If you are into cutting edge software then Ubuntu might be your thing but good luck. You may need it. Gary R -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54a8f6cd.6000...@verizon.net
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Re: problemes amb els dispositius extraïbles usb
Hola, què hi tens a fstab? Xavi El 03/01/15 a les 20:34, ilion1250 ha escrit: De cop i volta sense haver fet res ni tocat res, d'un dia per l'altre em trobo que quan connecto el disc dur usb o qualsevol memòria usb root és el propietari en lloc del meu usuari i per tant no puc moure fitxers. Es munten a /media. Realment no se que fer perquè /etc/fstab no hi es i per tant no puc afegir cap dispositiu nou de forma manual. Gràcies a tots Ferran -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54a90f49.3060...@gmail.com
Re: multiple versions of python
On 12/29/2014 09:17 PM, Boruch Baum wrote: Hello everyone, I'm preparing two bug reports, and in trying to sort one of them out, it seems that it may be linked to an incompatibility of a script with python2.7 (see bug #659831). So, in test that possibility, what I would like to do is install some other version of python (I see 2.5 and 2.6 in the repositories), in order to see whether the package works with another version. My questions revolve around how time-consuming and worthwhile this exercise will be: 1] Can I have multiple versions of python simultaneously? You should give a try to pew which gives more features than virtualenv : https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pew/ Best regards, -- “One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings.” “Le vrai n'est pas plus sûr que le probable.” Diogene Laerce signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: What happens when a bad package is in Debian stable?
Peter Michaux: Suppose there a nice package has been in Debian stable for years. If a new version is added to Debian stable and problems are discovered after it is added, what happens to fix the problem? The Debian release cycle does not work that way. Stable does not receive new versions, except for security patches and fixes for important problems in point releases. These updates are usually very small in order to minimize the risk of regressions. If an update still introduces a regression, there is a new update that fixes this regression. One example: DSA 3074-1 and DSA 3074-2. In some cases the security team decides to either drop a package altogether or follow a version that is still maintained upstream (DSA 3064-1 for php5 and DSA 3050-1 for iceweasel). J. -- I remember Donny Cooper dying live on TV, [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Linux, Windows y reinicios
El 3 de enero de 2015, 19:22, Raúl Alexis Betancor Santana r...@dimension-virtual.com escribió: - Mensaje original - De: Sebastian Oldani sebastianold...@gmail.com Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Enviados: Sábado, 3 de Enero 2015 23:21:41 Asunto: Re: Linux, Windows y reinicios Si nos ponemos a hilar fino hasta tener la PC prendida daña los componentes internos un poquito y no por eso vamos a tener la PC apagada. Tenerla encendida daña los componentes bastante menos que tenerla apagada ... es curioso, pero es un efecto real. Reiniciar (1, 2, o 10 veces por día) de forma correcta la PC no va a modificarle la vida útil a la PC de forma apreciable. Yo creo que esa era la duda inicial y listo. En este caso no estamos hablando de otra cosa que una computadora que esta destinada a ser utilizada como una consola de videojuegos, no demos mil vueltas al asunto con rebuscados casos, porque no viene al caso en este momento. No se esta consultado sobre un servidor, ni una computadora para viajar en el tiempo, ni nada parecido. Ejem ... reiniciar un equipo 2 o 3 veces al día ... no va a reducir su vida util sustancialmente ... pero reiniciarlo 10 veces al día SI, tienes una muy alta probabilidad de cascar la fuente de alimentación, así como de llevar los contadores SMART del HD a niveles que no te hará gracia llevar, ya que pueden producir procesos 'internos' de la FW del HD que no deberían de ejecutarse tan 'frecuentemente' como los vas a obligar a ejecutar. Raúl disculpa de nuevo pero ¿de dónde estás sacando esa información? Sabemos, por lo que has escrito, que eres una persona con experiencia en el área. Por lo tanto entendemos que has tomado en cuenta que con el tiempo la tecnología, al cambiar, hace que las cosas funcionen mejor. Es cierto que al enecender y apagar los equipos hay muchas cosas sucediendo dentro de ellos, pero te pongo un ejemplo sencillo. Cualquier monitor actual, por características de fábrica, apaga la pantalla, al transcurrir cierto tiempo. Es cierto que aún hay corriente circulando por algunos de sus componentes, pero otros estarán apagados y se volveán a encender cuando mueves el ratón (por ejemplo). ¿Podríamos decir que esos componentes se dañarán porque se apaguen y se prendan con mucha frecuencia durante el día? Evidentemente no, están diseñados para que funcionen así. Lo mismo sucede dentro de los pc's modernos (de los 90 para acá). Aunque antiguamente era preferible mantenerlos encendidos todo el tiempo, hoy día no hay porque hacerlo. Si bien es cierto, como mencionaste en un correo anterior, que existen equipos cuyos componentes son de mala calidad, no hay ninguna garantía de que duraran mas o menos por no reiniciarlos; por ejemplo el servidor que mencionaste, no quiso encender después que lo reiniciaste, ¿quién te garantiza que de no haberlo reiniciado no se hubiera apagado 10 mintos después? no tienes como saberlo. Hay bastante literatura que pareciera apoyar la idea de que reiniar o no un sistema, independientemente de la frecuencia con la que se haga, no afecta en gran medida la vida útil de los componentes (coincido contigo en que si son de mala calidad es preferible no tocarlos mucho) a continuación dejo algunos enlaces que pueden ser de interés, lamentablemente están en inglés; eso si, les sugiero que no usen el traductor de google para ese tipo de artículos, les aseguro que tarzán se los explicará mejor. http://computer.howstuffworks.com/powering-down-computer.htm http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fact-or-fiction-computers-sleep/ http://www.recordnations.com/articles/hard-drive-shut-down/ http://superuser.com/questions/179242/is-it-still-necessary-to-shut-down-computers y este me pareció muy interesante aunque no tiene relación directa con el tema, si con lo del ahorro de energía y temas afines. http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=power_mgt.pr_power_mgt_faq Una última aclaratoria Raúl. No es que esté intentando contradecir tus afirmaciones, es solo que hasta ahora lo que he podido conseguir es material como el que estoy citando; si tienes referencias que muestren otro punto de vista, estoy muy interesado en conocerlas y creo que otros mas en la lista también. Saludos Con respecto al sistema operativo, reiniciar de forma correcta no va a dañar el sistema operativo. No hay nada raro en tener dos (ni 3, 4 o mil) sistemas operativos instalados en una PC. No, eso no ... si el reinicio el correcto, no debería de haber problemas. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2133823771.782637.1420329164407.javamail.zim...@dimension-virtual.com -- Juan Lavieri Errar es de humanos, pero es mas humano culpar a los demás.
Reenvio De Cobrança Referente O Mês De Dezembro De 2014.
Anexamos esta duplicata N° 5793105492. no valor de 500,00( Quinhetos Reais), vencida. cujo protesto, feito por falta de pagamento, solicitamos que o pagamento seja feito à KSL Cobranças.LTDA. a quem deverá ser entregue o montante da liquidação do título. Segue no link abaixo Antecipando nosso agradecimento pelas providências que forem tomadas. atenciosamente Roberto Vargas Gutembergue. * Download-duplicata N° 5793105492 http://cl.ly/323k0H0N1R0q/download/Duplicata%20N%C2%B05793105492.zip domingo, 4 de janeiro de 2015 ás 15:45:34
Instalar drivers para DVB-S2
Hola a todos, Estos dias me estoy peleando para poder instalar el driver de una tarjeta sintonizadora para satelite (TeVii S482). De momento no esta soportado por el kernel de Jessie, asi que me toca instalar manualmente el driver. wget http://www.tevii.com/Tevii_Product_20140428_media_build_b6.tar.bz2.rar bzip2 -dc Tevii_Product_20140428_media_build_b6.tar.bz2.rar | tar -xv cd b6/media_build/ Pero al hacer el make me da este error: # make make -C /usr/src/b6/media_build/v4l make[1]: Entering directory '/usr/src/b6/media_build/v4l' ... [salida completa: http://paste.debian.net/139122/ ] /usr/src/linux-headers-3.16.0-4-common/scripts/Makefile.build:262: recipe for target '/usr/src/b6/media_build/v4l/altera-lpt.o' failed make[5]: *** [/usr/src/b6/media_build/v4l/altera-lpt.o] Error 1 /usr/src/linux-headers-3.16.0-4-common/Makefile:1350: recipe for target '_module_/usr/src/b6/media_build/v4l' failed make[4]: *** [_module_/usr/src/b6/media_build/v4l] Error 2 Makefile:181: recipe for target 'sub-make' failed make[3]: *** [sub-make] Error 2 Makefile:8: recipe for target 'all' failed make[2]: *** [all] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-headers-3.16.0-4-amd64' Makefile:51: recipe for target 'default' failed make[1]: *** [default] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/src/b6/media_build/v4l' Makefile:26: recipe for target 'all' failed make: *** [all] Error 2 ¿Me falta instalar algo? Agradezco cualquier ayuda, ya que esto de los compilar el driver me trae un poco de cabeza. Gracias y hasta pronto. -- Josu Lazkano -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cal9g6wxkwevxpjuaxldzoag3mzry+2qykufewbovldc29rs...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian right for my use?
Patrick Bartek wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: You are asking on a Debian user list. Any answer other than yes here would lead me to seriously question the responses. Meanwhile I would expect that a Fedora list would respond for Fedora for example and the same for every other distribution's user lists. We are all here because this is where we want to be. You certainly seem to have a low opinion of the users on this list (and others): That we are biased, to use the polite term; and incapable of offering fair recommendations. And Miles Fidelman's response too. It isn't a low opinion. Quite the opposite. But people are people and we are enthusiastic about things. Here on the Debian list people are enthusiastic about Debian. That is human nature. We would likely use Debian because we know it well. If it isn't the perfect fit then knowing it well we would work to make it into a better fit. IMNHO the way to ask for advice like this is to have each enthusiast group describe why they would choose their chosen whatever. Then with that knowledge apply your own judgement and make your own choices. Meanwhile I see there hasn't been any updates on the status of the VirtualBox driver for the Linux kernel. Therefore lacking any updates I will continue to assume that the situation there hasn't improved. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: What happens when a bad package is in Debian stable?
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:58 PM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Peter Michaux wrote: Suppose there a nice package has been in Debian stable for years. If a new version is added to Debian stable and problems are discovered after it is added, what happens to fix the problem? If problems are found after it has been released then file a bug report on it. In dealing with the bug report judgement is applied by both the maintainer and the release team. If the new version can be fixed? Is a fixed version added with a higher number? Yes. A fixed version of the package with a higher version number will created and uploaded to the repository. What if the new version cannot be fixed? Is the new version of the package simply removed? Is an even newer version added that actually matches the previous working version until bad one can be fixed and added again? Since a release has been made it cannot ever be removed from that release. Once something is done it cannot be undone. It may be removed in a later point release. That will not remove it from your system however. These are hypothetical questions that have no answers in the vagueness. Do you have an actual example? I'm thinking particularly of a personal/company repository where packages cannot be tested as well as they are in Debian before they are declared stable and sent to production servers. It is more likely for a company that a undetected problem makes it to production and the first person to notice is a customer. How does the company react in such a case so that customers are happy? Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cag0y48b9tyl7uwlfz4fxhzbjs4pshqntfo6+wgsy7cq0fej...@mail.gmail.com
USB camera prog ?
I am looking for a prog that will display on screen, and save, pictures taken with a USB camera connected to the box. Better obviously with a GUI; but I do not care to install a load of Gnome or KDE bloat. Any idea, advice, etc ? Cheers, Ron. -- Learning does not consist of knowing what we must or we can do, but also of knowing what we could do and perhaps should not do. -- William of Baskerville -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150104171004.09ea2...@ron.cerrocora.org
Re: USB camera prog ?
you should try cheese https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Cheese cheers, 2015-01-04 17:10 GMT-03:00 Renaud OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org: I am looking for a prog that will display on screen, and save, pictures taken with a USB camera connected to the box. Better obviously with a GUI; but I do not care to install a load of Gnome or KDE bloat. Any idea, advice, etc ? Cheers, Ron. -- Learning does not consist of knowing what we must or we can do, but also of knowing what we could do and perhaps should not do. -- William of Baskerville -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150104171004.09ea2...@ron.cerrocora.org -- http://chiloealdia.cl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cakshmbz1ad8-uytnqrxrwnrqyg6dks864r+zyxxroroa3zs...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Var köpa blanka/programmerbara smartkort?
2014-12-30 23:25 GMT+01:00 Michael Kjörling mich...@kjorling.se: Chansar på att någon här vet. **Var kan jag köpa blanka smartkort?** Leker med tanken på att använda smartkort för att lagra PGP-nycklar och liknande hemligheter. Kortläsare går ju att köpa lite varstans (Dustin har några stycken i sortimentet) men själva korten verkar vara värre. Bonus om man dessutom inte är tvungen att köpa i hundrapack! När jag söker så får jag upp ungefär allt _utom_ det jag vill ha. Vet inte om det uppfyller dina krav men YubiKey Neo har stöd för att hantera PGP-nycklar. https://www.yubico.com/2012/12/yubikey-neo-openpgp/ https://www.yubico.com/2012/12/yubikey-neo-composite-device/ Nackdelen med smartcards är att väl det sitter i datorn kan vad som helst accessa det. Med YubiKey kan man ejecta enheten och sedan ansluta den igen, båda med en enkel knapptryckningar på usb-enheten. Simon Josefsson har dessutom skrivit om YubiKey Neo och PGP på sin blogg http://blog.josefsson.org/2014/06/23/offline-gnupg-master-key-and-subkeys-on-yubikey-neo-smartcard/ http://blog.josefsson.org/2015/01/02/openpgp-smartcards-and-gnome/ -- Per -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CABYrXSQro95pOO4TU9g020MEA5upS4D=k595cv0hm07na3h...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Var köpa blanka/programmerbara smartkort?
On 4 Jan 2015 21:17 +0100, from avtob...@gmail.com (Per Andersson): Vet inte om det uppfyller dina krav men YubiKey Neo har stöd för att hantera PGP-nycklar. Intressant både detta och Fredriks tips om Kernel Concepts' erbjudande. Jag får titta närmare på det men nu har jag i alla fall lite att gå på, tack! -- Michael Kjörling • https://michael.kjorling.se • mich...@kjorling.se OpenPGP B501AC6429EF4514 https://michael.kjorling.se/public-keys/pgp “People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we don’t.” (Bjarne Stroustrup) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150104202033.ge9...@yeono.kjorling.se
Re: USB camera prog ?
Am Sonntag, 4. Januar 2015, 17:10:04 schrieb Renaud OLGIATI: I am looking for a prog that will display on screen, and save, pictures taken with a USB camera connected to the box. Better obviously with a GUI; but I do not care to install a load of Gnome or KDE bloat. Any idea, advice, etc ? Cheers, Ron. Maybe Camorama or GUVCView is what you are looking for. Maybe, there are some commandline tools, too. Best Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5150300.gjj68f739A@protheus2
Re: USB camera prog ?
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Renaud OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote: I am looking for a prog that will display on screen, and save, pictures taken with a USB camera connected to the box. Better obviously with a GUI; but I do not care to install a load of Gnome or KDE bloat. Any idea, advice, etc ? You mean, you are willing to use bloated gnome and/or kde apps? Any ways, an alternative is to have sw that mounts your camera, and then sw to view images once their storage is mounted. If you don't use gnome, neither gvfs (which automates mounting), what I recommend for mounting usb camera storage is gphotofs, which can as well be auto mounted/unmounted in combination with autofs. And for watching the pictures, there are lots of sw, and one simple and light one is xzgv, or gtksee (I don't know if gtksee is abandoned these days). -- Javier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/calurrgeq+dw1qmwn245hxdjtobjd0a2ejap003gllmemidi...@mail.gmail.com
Re: USB camera prog ?
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Javier Vasquez j.e.vasque...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Renaud OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote: I am looking for a prog that will display on screen, and save, pictures taken with a USB camera connected to the box. Better obviously with a GUI; but I do not care to install a load of Gnome or KDE bloat. Any idea, advice, etc ? You mean, you are willing to use bloated gnome and/or kde apps? Any ways, an alternative is to have sw that mounts your camera, and then sw to view images once their storage is mounted. If you don't use gnome, neither gvfs (which automates mounting), what I recommend for mounting usb camera storage is gphotofs, which can as well be auto mounted/unmounted in combination with autofs. And for watching the pictures, there are lots of sw, and one simple and light one is xzgv, or gtksee (I don't know if gtksee is abandoned these days). Misunderstood completely, you're looking for snapshots from connected camera, like a webcamk, :-) My bad. Forget what I just wrote, :-) -- Javier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CALUrRGf+M9tbrBZ0LFZ_q9s2W9ostw40e5A8KeG6rc6tXFdL=g...@mail.gmail.com
Re: error opening /media/cdrom0/BDMV/BACKUP/index.bdmv
On 01/03/2015 10:43 PM, Mike Kupfer wrote: Mike Kupfer wrote: Ric Moore wrote: Trying to automount a dvd for playback and I'm seeing this. I'm seeing these messages, too, even for removable USB drives. (Jessie, amd64, running Xfce.) I filed a bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=774532 Thank you!! My bug-report-fu is lacking master! This happens when I try to automount with vlc. Note, that /media/mountpoint is set non-writable. in my case, where it uses /media/cdrom0 ...which is odd as a cdrom is USUALLY non-writable but it's attempting to find that ../BDMV/index.bdmv file there. It must be some ruleset set wrongly somewhere. That we certainly have in common. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54a9b738.8030...@gmail.com
Re: USB camera prog ?
On Sun, 4 Jan 2015 17:15:17 -0300 Marcos Toro Oyarzo mart...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking for a prog that will display on screen, and save, pictures taken with a USB camera connected to the box. Better obviously with a GUI; but I do not care to install a load of Gnome or KDE bloat. Any idea, advice, etc ? you should try cheese https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Cheese Thank you, Marcos, but I specifically excluded anything that brought Gnome (or KDE) bloat to my box. Cheese wants to install 49 other packages, including Nautilus... Cheers, Ron. -- King Herod has been greatly misunderstood. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150104190153.0764b...@ron.cerrocora.org
Re: USB camera prog ?
On Sun, 04 Jan 2015 21:19:46 +0100 Hans hans.ullr...@loop.de wrote: Maybe Camorama or GUVCView is what you are looking for. Maybe, there are some commandline tools, too. Many thanks, Camorama is exactly what I was hoping for. Cheers, Ron. -- King Herod has been greatly misunderstood. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150104190320.5f8ae...@ron.cerrocora.org
Re: How to undo Java installation and settings
On 01/03/2015 05:12 PM, Dalios wrote: On 01/03/2015 08:31 PM, Ric Moore wrote: On 01/03/2015 03:06 AM, Dalios wrote: Hello all, a few days ago I had to install Java in a laptop in order for a web application to be able to function properly. I followed directions found in the internet (mostly the debian wiki and the Adobe download page). It would have been far easier to use synaptic, then check the java packages that you wanted and let it install them. A couple of minutes later and you would have been done. Now I want to uninstall Java and undo all settings to go were I was before all this got started. It would have been just as easy to uninstall the packages with synaptic. But, since you opted to do all of those alternatives links by hand, you'll have to delete them yourself. What webpage provided these instructions? :) Ric According to the info I found on the Debian wiki the package is not there to be installed with Synaptic: Sun Java is no longer available in the repositories (wiki.debian.org/Java/Sun). That is correct. But the regular ole icedtea package and openjdk are in the repos, since they are legit to have. I can't find the how-to that I followed to do the installation (when I wrote the first mail this morning I thought that it was from the Debian wiki but since I can't find it I assume that it is from a Debian user forum or from a Debian derivative forum or something similar). Anyway I purged the packages that were installed and I removed the (symbolic) links that were created with the ln command. But there are some commands that I don't know how to undo and if it is even necessary. These commands are: snippage If you want Oracle Java then the easiest way to do it is to use the Oracle Java Installer from: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-in-debian.html It is swt! And, it correctly sets all of the alternatives and adds some you might not ever heard of. It is complete, works flawlessly every time I've used it for the last several years. Plus, it updates automagically when needed, the Debian way. What is installed is just a script (that is the legal part for Debian) and it handles downloading Oracle Java 7, installing it in /usr/lib/jvm where it should be, and then setting up alternatives. The guy that did this is sharp! He also has a Java 8 version, which I tried, but I settled back on 7. Enjoy! Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54a9b9c9.4010...@gmail.com
Re: What happens when a bad package is in Debian stable?
Peter Michaux wrote: I'm thinking particularly of a personal/company repository where packages cannot be tested as well as they are in Debian before they are declared stable and sent to production servers. It is more likely for a company that a undetected problem makes it to production and the first person to notice is a customer. How does the company react in such a case so that customers are happy? Thanks for that clarification. In that context: If the new version can be fixed? Is a fixed version added with a higher number? After fixing a problem make and release and upload to your repository a new package with a later version number. It will then be available to anyone that has that repository in their sources.list file. I can't stress this point enough. When making a new version always use a later version number. Do not try to release a changed version but with the same version number as before. No one will think it looks bad to have multiple versions released fixing bugs. On the contrary people will view that as being an alive, active project that with support. (And yet I routinely run into people trying to release multiple version of the same version. I once saw a project try to release four versions with quick hot fixes all as the same version number. They were embarrased that it was needed and tried to hide it by continuing to use the same version number. That just creates additional problems. Don't do it. Publish each version number once only.) What if the new version cannot be fixed? Is the new version of the package simply removed? Is an even newer version added that actually matches the previous working version until bad one can be fixed and added again? Package systems used with GNU/Linux systems such as dpkg and rpm have so far avoided the entire concept of patches. Some other systems release incremental changes and therefore require keeping a lot of system information in order to upgrade or downgrade. To avoid that problem dpkg and rpm both package the entire thing. They have 100% of everything needed in one version. Perhaps with multiple packages that work together but all across one version of them. When preparing a fixed package the new package is a full package completely replacing the previous version of the package. When we upload a fixed version of the package the previous version may be forgotten about. (Although Debian keeps them archived as they are useful for many other reasons.) Let me show an example use case. Living in Debian Unstable means having both Unstable and Testing in the sources.list file. If something is broken in Unstable I can manually select the version from Testing and downgrade. In general downgrades are not supported (config files or state files may not be forward compatible) but when debugging a specific package I can know if downgrading will work or not. (If not I can always purge and then re-install pristine the previous version and that is supported.) If you were to release a buggy package version and I installed it and realized that it was buggy I would manually select the previous version and downgrade to it as part of the debugging. This is made easier if you keep not only the newest version around but also keep a previous known good version around too. If you don't then I as a downstream user would need to do so myself. That is a pain. Other users might not be savvy enough to do this for themselves. Therefore I recommend you helping them out by keeping a previous known good version easily available for installation too. Removing a package from a repository does not remove it from a user's system. Removing a package from a repository simply means it is no longer available from that repository to install. (Package files will undoubtedly still exist elsewhere such as /var/cache/apt/archives though.) If it is necessary to take some emergency action such as pushing out an upgrade that defuses a bomb as Henrique mentioned then it is possible to create an empty or denatured package. The package manage will upgrade from the old package to the new package. Since the bad contents of the old package are removed and replaced with the new this could be used to safe a bad package release. I also do not recall this ever being needed with Debian packages. One place to be extra careful about such things is in the package installation scripts and the prerm and postrm scripts specifically. Don't make any hazardous mistakes there. Otherwise someone that simply removes the package will trip over problems in those scripts. I do recall rare times when bugs existed there and hacks were needed in the later package in order to take corrective action in those scripts. Possible to save. But ugly. Best is not to need them. Package scripts is one area where dpkg is clearly superior to rpm. The script order for rpm packages is in an unfortunate bad order. With rpm a buggy package script may not be safely upgraded.
Re: [off-topic] - reutilizar certificado ssl
Não faz sentido o certificado serve para certificar que o seu website é quem diz ser...Reutilizalo seria uma falha de segurança do próprio certificado. Caso queira fazer certificados de teste, ai seria uma outra história. Em domingo, 21 de dezembro de 2014, Antonio Terceiro terce...@debian.org escreveu: On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 03:23:37PM -0200, Vitor Hugo wrote: Os certificados SSL são caros e tem um tempo de duração limitado, seria possível reutilizar certificados de terceiros para se economizar dinheiro? pra todos os efeitos, reutilizar um certificado SSL emitido pra um outro site é a mesma coisa que usar um certificado auto-assinado. -- Antonio Terceiro terce...@debian.org -- Atenciosamente, Rodrigo da Silva Cunha
Re: USB camera prog ?
On Sunday 04 January 2015 22:01:53 Renaud OLGIATI wrote: On Sun, 4 Jan 2015 17:15:17 -0300 Marcos Toro Oyarzo mart...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking for a prog that will display on screen, and save, pictures taken with a USB camera connected to the box. Better obviously with a GUI; but I do not care to install a load of Gnome or KDE bloat. Any idea, advice, etc ? you should try cheese https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Cheese Thank you, Marcos, but I specifically excluded anything that brought Gnome (or KDE) bloat to my box. Cheese wants to install 49 other packages, including Nautilus... Cheers, Ron. -- King Herod has been greatly misunderstood. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- The Trinity Desktop version of DigiKam is great. It pulls in less than KDE or GNOME, but may still be too resource hungry for you: lisi@Tux-II:~$ aptitude show digikam-trinity Package: digikam-trinity New: yes State: installed Automatically installed: no Version: 4:3.5.13.2-0debian7.0.0+0 Priority: optional Section: graphics Maintainer: Timothy Pearson kb9...@pearsoncomputing.net Architecture: amd64 Uncompressed Size: 22.0 M Depends: kdelibs4c2a-trinity (= 4:3.5.8-1), libaudio2, libc6 (= 2.11), libexiv2-12, libfontconfig1 (= 2.9.0), libfreetype6 (= 2.2.1), libgcc1 (= 1:4.1.1), libgphoto2-2 (= 2.4.10.1), libgphoto2-port0 (= 2.4.10.1), libice6 (= 1:1.0.0), libjasper1, libjpeg8 (= 8c), libkdcraw3-trinity (= 4:3.5.13.2~pre9), libkexiv2-3-trinity (= 4:3.5.13.2~pre9), libkipi0-trinity (= 4:3.5.13.2~pre9), liblcms1 (= 1.15-1), libpng12-0 (= 1.2.13-4), libqt3-mt (= 3:3.3.8-e~pre16), libsm6, libsqlite3-0 (= 3.5.9), libstdc++6 (= 4.2.1), libtiff4 ( 3.9.5-3~), libtqtinterface, libx11-6, libxcursor1 ( 1.1.2), libxext6, libxft2 ( 2.1.1), libxi6, libxinerama1, libxrandr2, libxrender1, libxt6, zlib1g (= 1:1.1.4) Recommends: kipi-plugins-trinity, kdeprint-trinity, konqueror-trinity Suggests: digikam-trinity-doc Conflicts: digikam-trinity Description: digital photo management application for KDE [Trinity] An easy to use and powerful digital photo management application, which makes importing, organizing and manipulating digital photos a snap. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501050012.47779.lisi.re...@gmail.com
qimo kids
buenas, alguien sabe si la distribucion Qimo kids sigue vigente -- Atentamente. Constantino Vargas Cornejo
abc notation? remains music * debian.
Hi all, When I asked about music programs for debian, a list member suggested abc notation. I visited the site and was amazed. I also tried joining the discussion list without success, timeout for my request apparently. I am writing here again as I imagine the artist who suggested the program is also on the list. If so, can you connect me directly with the list moderator? Thanks again, for that suggestion and for Joel's. Karen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pine.bsf.4.64.1501041920580.56...@server1.shellworld.net
A USB HDD is trouble outbreak in debian7.7
I managed debian 7 by the following constitution. Body) I-O DATA GLANTANK 2.0TB (500GB * 4 RAID0, iop32x) USB1) I-O DATA HDZ-UES 2.0TB (500GB * 4 JBOD) USB2) I-O DATA HDZ-UES 1.0TB (250GB * 4 JBOD) USB3) I-O DATA HDZ-UES 1.0TB (250GB * 4 JBOD) USB4) I-O DATA HDW-UE 1.0TB (500GB * 2 JBOD) After making 7.7 from debian 7.6, malfunction occurred. 1) A sector error occurs when I do mount and becomes the lead only 2) I fail in synchronization of the file system when I do fdisk I gave following tests to cut a problem into pieces. 1) I do operation same as GLANTANK in x64 environment whether it is a problem of the hardware. - Because the same problem occurs with both, it is not peculiar to hardware. 2) I confirm whether it is the problem of the HDD of USB1 - 4 with the test tool of the HDD maker. - Because the HDD of all passed a test, it is not a problem of USB1 - 4. 3) I do the same operation in Fedora whether it is a problem peculiar to debian. - Because it reappeared in Fedora, I conclude it to be a problem of kernel. 4) I change a version of kernel on debian and do the same operation. - 3.2.62 : It does not reappear 3.2.63 ~ : Reappear 3.18.0 ~ : Reappear 5) I report it to kernel.org and do the same operation after enforcement in the end run which there was of the answer. - Please refer to https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89511. It is to say that my USB HDD cannot support the change of this journal function in conclusion. I make kernel latest or seem to but make a USB HDD a different one if I continue managing it by the present constitution. I knew that it was not developed debian 8 for GLANTANK by a document. Because there is no help for it, I think to manage it without formating ext2, and using the journal function. ※In addition, one of file system is destroyed when an error happens as for this malfunction even once. I hope that it reappears and is not given a test with the contained HDD of important data. ※Because the funny grammar is machine translation; a pardon That's all. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/blu436-smtp175514212f285f17ac4c90f1...@phx.gbl
Re: abc notation? remains music * debian.
On Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 07:24:06PM -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi all, When I asked about music programs for debian, a list member suggested abc notation. I visited the site and was amazed. I also tried joining the discussion list without success, timeout for my request apparently. I am writing here again as I imagine the artist who suggested the program is also on the list. If so, can you connect me directly with the list moderator? Thanks again, for that suggestion and for Joel's. Karen Have you tried contacting abcusers-ow...@yahoogroups.com ? I am indeed subscribed to that list, so if even prodding the listmaster fails I can relay your request to the group. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150105004029.ga16...@x60s.casa
Re: qimo kids
Gracias por la informacion El 4 de enero de 2015, 19:44, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus arad...@gmail.com escribió: Hola: Desconozco esa distribución, pero puedes ver cuales siguen vigentes en http://distrowatch.com/ Veo que su pagina sigue existiendo: http://www.qimo4kids.com/ pero los mensajes mas recientes son de 2012 y por lo que veo está basado en Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, que si no mal recuerdo ya tiene 5 años de vigencia asi que supongo puedes usarla aun, pero lo mejor seria tratar de comunicarte directamente con la gente que la desarrolla para saberlo de cierto. Suerte -- Atentamente. Constantino Vargas Cornejo
Re: abc notation? remains music * debian.
Greetings, Let me try that door now. I suspect that my request sent via yahoo simply got lost in the holiday music making. If you think you can provide the nudge as well, perhaps between the two of us I can join the group. thanks again, Kare On Mon, 5 Jan 2015, Francesco Ariis wrote: On Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 07:24:06PM -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi all, When I asked about music programs for debian, a list member suggested abc notation. I visited the site and was amazed. I also tried joining the discussion list without success, timeout for my request apparently. I am writing here again as I imagine the artist who suggested the program is also on the list. If so, can you connect me directly with the list moderator? Thanks again, for that suggestion and for Joel's. Karen Have you tried contacting abcusers-ow...@yahoogroups.com ? I am indeed subscribed to that list, so if even prodding the listmaster fails I can relay your request to the group. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150105004029.ga16...@x60s.casa -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pine.bsf.4.64.1501042058100.58...@server1.shellworld.net
Re: error opening /media/cdrom0/BDMV/BACKUP/index.bdmv
On 01/04/2015 04:57 PM, Ric Moore wrote: On 01/03/2015 10:43 PM, Mike Kupfer wrote: Mike Kupfer wrote: Ric Moore wrote: Trying to automount a dvd for playback and I'm seeing this. I'm seeing these messages, too, even for removable USB drives. (Jessie, amd64, running Xfce.) I filed a bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=774532 Thank you!! My bug-report-fu is lacking master! This happens when I try to automount with vlc. Note, that /media/mountpoint is set non-writable. in my case, where it uses /media/cdrom0 ...which is odd as a cdrom is USUALLY non-writable but it's attempting to find that ../BDMV/index.bdmv file there. It must be some ruleset set wrongly somewhere. That we certainly have in common. :) Ric If anyone has a clue where the rule would be on the file system to automount a dvd would be I would appreciate being pointed in the right direction. I have to wonder if other problems like mounting a USB device would be related to trying to use a mount point that is unwritable and/or doesn't exist. I hope you get feedback from your bug report, Mike. Please keep us all posted. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54aa1da4.8040...@gmail.com
Re: USB camera prog ?
On Sun, 04 Jan 2015, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: I am looking for a prog that will display on screen, and save, pictures taken with a USB camera connected to the box. Better obviously with a GUI; but I do not care to install a load of Gnome or KDE bloat. Any idea, advice, etc ? Geeqie. No desktop environment dependency. My system doesn't even have one. Just uses X and a window manager -- Openbox. However, Geeqie is strictly an image viewer/manager. No drivers to mount cameras unless your camera mounts as a mass storage device. I just use a USB multi-card reader. So much easier when you have lots of cameras. B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150104190203.2e1e7...@debian7.boseck208.net
Re: abc notation? remains music * debian.
On Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 09:01:16PM -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote: Greetings, Let me try that door now. I suspect that my request sent via yahoo simply got lost in the holiday music making. If you think you can provide the nudge as well, perhaps between the two of us I can join the group. thanks again, Kare Very good! I sent a message to the group just in case, I am sure you will be able to join the group soon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150105022827.gb19...@x60s.casa
Re: Re: error opening /media/cdrom0/BDMV/BACKUP/index.bdmv
Ric Moore wrote: Trying to automount a dvd for playback and I'm seeing this. I'm seeing these messages, too, even for removable USB drives. (Jessie, amd64, running Xfce.) Jan 1 15:50:52 allegro kernel: [314184.131707] EXT4-fs (sdb1): mounting ext3 file system using the ext4 subsystem Jan 1 15:50:53 allegro kernel: [314184.560555] EXT4-fs (sdb1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null) Jan 1 15:50:53 allegro udisksd[1280]: Mounted /dev/sdb1 at /media/kupfer/external on behalf of uid 1000 Jan 1 15:50:53 allegro org.gtk.Private.UDisks2VolumeMonitor[1190]: index_parse.c:191: indx_parse(): error opening /media/kupfer/external/BDMV/index.bdmv Jan 1 15:50:53 allegro org.gtk.Private.UDisks2VolumeMonitor[1190]: index_parse.c:191: indx_parse(): error opening /media/kupfer/external/BDMV/BACKUP/index.bdmv I'm finding almost zip using google. Basically, it seems automount is looking for something that doesn't exist. I think it's related to blueray but removal of libbluray rips out half the system as depends. Anyone have a clue towards this? The web searches I did yesterday suggested something to do with gvfs and/or libbluray (well, libbluray1). Mike! I fixed the darn thing. not through any huge amount of code-fu, but I took a shot in the dark. I had autofs installed. Nixed that. It didn't seem to do anything. I installed udisks-glue, which added udisks. Funny that as udisk2 was already installed. When it was done installing my DVD automounted (and I got a popup announcing the fact!) and then VLC came to life and ran the DVD. (Dark Shadows!) It seems I spend half the year enjoying autoplay of DVD's and the other half trying to fix it. This might be a fix for everyone else with automount related problems. I'm as happy as a little clam. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54aa3106.9090...@gmail.com
