Re: xfce 4.12 in Debian.
On 4 March 2015 at 08:17, xavi wrote: > Hi, > > Does somebody know when xfce4.12 will be arrive to Debian? And, where can > I look this for xfce4.12 or other packages? Is there some kind of calendar > for packages? > > You can use apt-show-versions to see which version of any package is available. On my systerm: > apt-show-versions xfce4 xfce4:all/jessie 4.10.1 uptodate You can watch https://wiki.debian.org/Xfce and https://packages.debian.org/sid/xfce4 xfce4.12 does not seem to be available at the moment. > Thanks and sorry for my english :^) > > No problem. > Have a nice day! > > Same there :) Johann -- Because experiencing your loyal love is better than life itself, my lips will praise you. (Psalm 63:3)
xfce 4.12 in Debian.
Hi, Does somebody know when xfce4.12 will be arrive to Debian? And, where can I look this for xfce4.12 or other packages? Is there some kind of calendar for packages? Thanks and sorry for my english :^) Have a nice day! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f6a38a.8080...@paranoici.org
Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD
On 20150228_1557-0500, Ric Moore wrote: > On 02/28/2015 03:42 PM, Brian wrote: > >On Sat 28 Feb 2015 at 15:14:19 -0500, Ric Moore wrote: > > > >>On 02/28/2015 03:06 PM, Brian wrote: > >>> > >>>Relenting, somewhat. I cannot stand the pain which comes from watching > >>>someone struggle. :) > >>> > >>>e2label(8). > >> > >>I often trust the opinion of our" hive-mind" more than I do a man > >>page. I hate to blow up something working. :) Ric > > > >Very understandable. I do not think adding LABEL to your system would > >particularly give you anything which do not have already. > > > >I use it with USB sticks which move from machine to machine, The UUID > >may change but the LABEL doesn't. Debian always boots. > > > >Having said that, I do not think labelling with e2label would cause > >your system to go into "blow up" mode and the UUID is is still there. > >Changing means trusting my judgement. Ignoring the advice means you > >can sleep well at nights. > > There is that to consider as well. Next time I install fresh might be a > better time to play with labels! :) Ric I can't recall for sure, but I think OP is concerned about LABELing the swap partition. A swap partition is NOT an extN formatted region of the block-special device. e2label fails to find a superblock on a swap partition on my jessie machine and I'm not a bit surprised at learning that ;-O Also blkid displays a "PARTUUID" in addition to the familiar UUID for all the partitions on the internal hard drive on my jessie machine. This "PARTUUID" has fewer hex digits than a the 'real' UUID. It looks as if there is a lot of new conventional to be learn by people who have learned on Linux internals long ago. Or maybe I'm the last to learn about this innovation. Cheers, -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150304053055.ga6...@big.lan.gnu
Re: Looking for document and file organisation tools
On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 at 10:50:04 PM UTC+5:30, Hendrik Boom wrote: > What free software is there in the way of organizing lots of documents? > > To be more precise, the ones I *need* to organize are the files on hard > drives, though if I could include documents I have elsewhere (bookshelves > and photocopy files) I wouldn't mind. They are text documents in a > variety of file formats and languages, source code for current and > obsolete systems, jpeg images, film clips, drawings, SVG files, files, > object code, shared libraries, fragments of drafts of books, ragged > software documentation, works in progress ... > > And I'm not looking for one single solution that will do everything I'd > like. Indeed, I suspect that's impossible without building an entirely > new OS. Which I'm not likely to find off the shelf, nor am I likely to > be able to do it myself in the few decades I may have left in my life. > And even if it were feasible, there's probably a lot of research to be > done before we even know what such a thing should actually do. > > Of course the files are already semi-organized in directories. But I > haven't yet managed to find a suitable collection of directory names. > Hierarchical classification isn't ideal Bullseye! As someone quipped: Why is google able to find things on the www better than I am able to find in my drive? In one word (rather two) hierarchical filesystems Have you seen recoll http://www.lesbonscomptes.com/recoll/ > Of course the taxonomists would advise setting up a controlled vocabulary > of tags and attaching tags to the various files. I'd end up with > triples store or some other database describing files. > > But how to identify the files being tagged? A file-system pathname isn't > enough. Files get moved, and sometimes entire directory trees full of > files get moved from one place to another for various pragmatic reasons. > And a hashcode isn't enough. files get edited, upgraded, recompiled, > reformatted, converted from JIS code to UTF-8, and so forth. Images get > cropped and colour-corrected. And under these changes they should keep > their assigned classification tags. > > Now a number of file formats can accommodate metadata. And some software > that manipulates files can preserve metadata and even allow user editing > of the metadata. But more doesn't. > > Much of it could perhaps be done by auttomatic content analysis. Other > material may require labour-intensive manual classification. > > No I don't expect to see any off-the-shelf solution for all of this. > > But does anyone have ideas as to how to accomplish even some of this? > Even poorly? > > Does anyone know of relevant practical tools? Or have ideas towards > tools that *should* exist but currently don't? > > I'm ready to experiment. > > -- hendrik > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/md4q33$ib1$1...@ger.gmane.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5f2453e3-c727-4d47-9be0-cc44e52c5...@googlegroups.com
Re: Looking for document and file organisation tools
On 03/03/2015 09:13 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: What free software is there in the way of organizing lots of documents? To be more precise, the ones I *need* to organize are the files on hard drives, though if I could include documents I have elsewhere (bookshelves and photocopy files) I wouldn't mind. They are text documents in a variety of file formats and languages, source code for current and obsolete systems, jpeg images, film clips, drawings, SVG files, files, object code, shared libraries, fragments of drafts of books, ragged software documentation, works in progress ... For information organization concepts, have you read the Polar Bear book? I read an earlier version, and it was helpful: http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920034674.do For storage tools/ technologies, ZFS offers compression, deduplication, snapshots, replication, redundancy, etc., among other useful features. Note that there is a big debate involving ZFS and ECC memory: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zfs https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/zfs-fuse http://zfsonlinux.org/ https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=zfs++ecc If you can code, FUSE allows you to roll your own file system: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace As you mentioned, another storage option would be a database. For me, the user interface is a conundrum. It would need at least user-level access to the file system(s). I've contemplated writing an application. But I think it would end up resembling a file manager, so why not write a file manager plug-in? But, which file manager? Similar comments for a browser plug-in. Whatever I do, it needs to work with existing CLI/GUI programs and desktop environments. What are your thoughts? You might want to obtain access to a university library and browse research papers and publications. Also, take a look at Plan 9. HTH, David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f67bed.8070...@holgerdanske.com
Re: alternative to avidemux?
On 03/03/2015 18:05, Dan Ritter wrote: subtitles: - gnome-subtitles (1.2-4 in Wheezy) - aegisub (2.1.9-1 in Wheezy) - subtitlecomposer (0.5.3-3 in Wheezy) These are for editing the subtitle files. I use aegisub, and it’s great. But none of these software can burn the subtitles into the images. lossless cuts: - gopchop (1.1.8-5 in Wheezy) - MPEG2 only - possibly OpenShot, if you stay in the right format I didn’t know about gopchop. Sounds interesting. However nowadays my main need is to cut mp4 videos (h264/aac) and occasionally some avi (xvid/mp3). Last time I checked, OpenShot didn’t have a direct copy/remux function (without reencoding). I still can’t find it in 1.4.3. Did I miss something? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f6381a.2020...@svictor.net
Re: Cheap way to track disk usage?
On 04/03/15 09:30, Don Armstrong wrote: On Tue, 03 Mar 2015, Jacek Politowski wrote: On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 08:29:53PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: I can run du, but that takes ages, and has a performance impact. With "idle" I/O scheduler class (set with ionice) does it still have a big performance impact? This is basically what I do myself; I run 'nice -n 19 ionice -c 3 du -a;' occasionally and feed the output into sort -n. Granted, this is only on about 1T of data, but the number of files are probably similar. Yep, this looks like the way to go - either with ncdu (if I can build it for lenny) or du + xdu. Around 6 million files, FWIW (well, including directories, based on find |wc -l It takes about 9-10 minutes to run a du. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f628b3.7060...@walnut.gen.nz
Re: Cheap way to track disk usage?
On Tue, 03 Mar 2015, Jacek Politowski wrote: > On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 08:29:53PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > > >I can run du, but that takes ages, and has a performance impact. > > With "idle" I/O scheduler class (set with ionice) does it still have > a big performance impact? This is basically what I do myself; I run 'nice -n 19 ionice -c 3 du -a;' occasionally and feed the output into sort -n. Granted, this is only on about 1T of data, but the number of files are probably similar. -- Don Armstrong http://www.donarmstrong.com I will not make any deals with you. I've resigned. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own. I resign. -- Patrick McGoohan as Number 6 in "The Prisoner" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150303203038.gb8...@rzlab.ucr.edu
Re: Cheap way to track disk usage?
On Tue, 03 Mar 2015 09:55:46 +, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 10:09:41AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: >> >> >> I can run du, but that takes ages, and has a performance impact. >> df only gives the total for the filesystem, of course. >> >>Try ncdu. It also takes some time to finish calculating, but the >>output is easier to handle and you can drill down to lower >>directories without losing the other data. > > Also, if it's useful to you, you can separate out the gathering and > displaying tasks with ncdu. So you could, for example, run "ionice -c3 > ncdu -o ~/ncdu-output" late at night (or when the system is relatively > quiet) and then, in the morning run "ncdu -f ~/ncdu-output" to examine > the file that was produced by the overnight run. Can do something similar with du and xdu. The output of du can diverted to a file, running overnight, and then afterward, xdu can take it as input ad display it nicely. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/md54tj$ib1$2...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Purging depends in cinnamon
On 03/03/2015 01:25 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Frank wrote: I recently installed the cinnamon desktop in my Sid installation which of course brought in Icedove and Ice Weasel as well as a number of other programs. Is there any way to eliminate them, as I have been running Thunderbird and firefox. Trying to purge them results in aptitude wanting to purge a lot of other stuff, including the cinnamon-desktop-environment. The usual suggestion is to use the 'equivs' package to create a local replacement package for iceweasl and the others. The local package would provide the iceweasel name so that dpkg thinks they are installed but in reality it is simply an empty package holding the name. //snip// Bob That's good to know Bob. I'll make a note of that for the next time this might happen. As it is now, I allowed Aptitude to remove all it wanted to and then re-installed one or two packages. Thanks Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f6133d.70...@videotron.ca
Re: How to troubleshoot: No login GUI after logout or reboot (new install)
Op Tue, 03 Mar 2015 15:52:22 +0100 schreef Kynn Jones :
Hello!
My newly-installed Debian system (wheezy) is working fine for the
most part, except that the login GUI shows up only after I fully shut
down and re-start the system. Neither running reboot nor running
logout will result in a login GUI; instead, the display just goes dark,
and the system appears to hang indefinitely.
I'd like to learn how to troubleshoot this kind of problem (as opposed
to trying random fixes I scrounge up online until one appears to work).
At the moment, I don't know where to begin, and would be thankful for
some suggestions.
Thanks in advance!
kj
I think you can find some clues in the log messages:
when you logout and the screen stays black switch to
an other terminal with
login as root and go to /var/log
# cd /var/log
the files "Xorg.0.log" and "messages" are probably
the most interesting to read:
# less Xorg.0.log
(use the arrow keys to scroll up and down. type 'q'
to exit")
# less messages
--
(tl;dr)
PS: FWIW, here are the only additional, *potentially* relevant
clues I can provide:
1. a few seconds after running logout, the computer's monitor
reports that it's entering power-saving mode; (curiously, this
doesn't seem to happen after I run reboot);
2. after I run reboot or logout (upon which display goes dark,
system hangs, etc.), I press the on/off switch on the computer long
enough for it to go completely silent (shut down?), and then press
it again to re-start the system, for one or two seconds the computer
*sounds* as though it is starting up, but then it immediately goes
completely silent (shuts down?) again. I must press the on/off
switch a third time in order for the computer to *really* re-start;
from this point on, everything works normally;
3. this machine (a new Dell workstation) came with Windows 7
pre-installed in its originally sole hard drive (a 500GB 2.5" SATA
"non-SSD" drive); to this set-up I added a *second* 2.5" internal
drive (this time a 1TB SSD), and then, I installed Debian (from CD)
on this newly-added second disk; although my intent was to leave the
original ("Windows 7") disk untouched, somehow, after I installed
Debian on the second disk I lost the ability to boot from the
original Windows 7 disk, even if I set it (via the BIOS config)
ahead of the "Debian disk" in the boot order; nonetheless, I can
mount and read the original Windows 7 drive, and AFAICT, its
contents are still intact.
If you run:
# os-prober
(as root)
does it find your Windows installation?
I get:
/dev/sda1:Windows 7 (loader):Windows:chain
success,
floris
By itself, the problem of being unable to boot from the Windows 7
drive is far less important, at the moment, then the problem in this
message's subject line. Therefore, if the two are unrelated (which
would be my uneducated guess), then please dismiss the former problem
(the inability to boot from W7) as a red herring.
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Re: Purging depends in cinnamon
Frank wrote: > I recently installed the cinnamon desktop in my Sid installation > which of course brought in Icedove and Ice Weasel as well as a number > of other programs. > > Is there any way to eliminate them, as I have been running Thunderbird > and firefox. Trying to purge them results in aptitude wanting to > purge a lot of other stuff, including the cinnamon-desktop-environment. The usual suggestion is to use the 'equivs' package to create a local replacement package for iceweasl and the others. The local package would provide the iceweasel name so that dpkg thinks they are installed but in reality it is simply an empty package holding the name. $ apt-cache show equivs Description-en: Circumvent Debian package dependencies This package provides a tool to create trivial Debian packages. Typically these packages contain only dependency information, but they can also include normal installed files like other packages do. . One use for this is to create a metapackage: a package whose sole purpose is to declare dependencies and conflicts on other packages so that these will be automatically installed, upgraded, or removed. . Another use is to circumvent dependency checking: by letting dpkg think a particular package name and version is installed when it isn't, you can work around bugs in other packages' dependencies. (Please do still file such bugs, though.) Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Looking for document and file organisation tools
What free software is there in the way of organizing lots of documents? To be more precise, the ones I *need* to organize are the files on hard drives, though if I could include documents I have elsewhere (bookshelves and photocopy files) I wouldn't mind. They are text documents in a variety of file formats and languages, source code for current and obsolete systems, jpeg images, film clips, drawings, SVG files, files, object code, shared libraries, fragments of drafts of books, ragged software documentation, works in progress ... And I'm not looking for one single solution that will do everything I'd like. Indeed, I suspect that's impossible without building an entirely new OS. Which I'm not likely to find off the shelf, nor am I likely to be able to do it myself in the few decades I may have left in my life. And even if it were feasible, there's probably a lot of research to be done before we even know what such a thing should actually do. Of course the files are already semi-organized in directories. But I haven't yet managed to find a suitable collection of directory names. Hierarchical classification isn't ideal -- there are files that fit in several categories, and there are a lot files that have to be in a particular location because of the way they are used (executables in a bin directory, for example) or the way they are updated or maintained. Of course the taxonomists would advise setting up a controlled vocabulary of tags and attaching tags to the various files. I'd end up with triples store or some other database describing files. But how to identify the files being tagged? A file-system pathname isn't enough. Files get moved, and sometimes entire directory trees full of files get moved from one place to another for various pragmatic reasons. And a hashcode isn't enough. files get edited, upgraded, recompiled, reformatted, converted from JIS code to UTF-8, and so forth. Images get cropped and colour-corrected. And under these changes they should keep their assigned classification tags. Now a number of file formats can accommodate metadata. And some software that manipulates files can preserve metadata and even allow user editing of the metadata. But more doesn't. Much of it could perhaps be done by auttomatic content analysis. Other material may require labour-intensive manual classification. No I don't expect to see any off-the-shelf solution for all of this. But does anyone have ideas as to how to accomplish even some of this? Even poorly? Does anyone know of relevant practical tools? Or have ideas towards tools that *should* exist but currently don't? I'm ready to experiment. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/md4q33$ib1$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: alternative to avidemux?
On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 01:48:11PM +0100, Victor wrote: > On 28/02/2015 23:26, Ric Moore wrote: > > > >Whew! I had to install "all the things-dev" and it finally > >completed successfully. Thanks! > > > > > Glad that it worked ! > > So does anyone know of another gui tool which could do at least one > of the following: > > a) cut videos without reencoding > b) burn ssa subs into a video? > > I can’t believe Avidemux is still the only gui way to do that (and > that it’s not part of Debian)! At least (a) is quite a common need, > isn’t it? subtitles: - gnome-subtitles (1.2-4 in Wheezy) - aegisub (2.1.9-1 in Wheezy) - subtitlecomposer (0.5.3-3 in Wheezy) lossless cuts: - gopchop (1.1.8-5 in Wheezy) - MPEG2 only - possibly OpenShot, if you stay in the right format -dsr- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150303170515.gi21...@randomstring.org
Re: alternative to avidemux?
On 03/03/2015 07:48 AM, Victor wrote: On 28/02/2015 23:26, Ric Moore wrote: Whew! I had to install "all the things-dev" and it finally completed successfully. Thanks! Glad that it worked ! So does anyone know of another gui tool which could do at least one of the following: a) cut videos without reencoding b) burn ssa subs into a video? I can’t believe Avidemux is still the only gui way to do that (and that it’s not part of Debian)! At least (a) is quite a common need, isn’t it? +1! It ought to be in our standard repos. -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f5e29c.20...@gmail.com
Re: Digital noise from USB DAC device
On 03/03/2015 01:14 AM, Teemu Likonen wrote: I believe this is either a hardware issue or some internal USB driver issue. The OP might want to check dmesg to see if there are any hard drive or other warning message related failures. That could cause stutter and hiss as well. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f5e1ee.1010...@gmail.com
How to troubleshoot: No login GUI after logout or reboot (new install)
Hello!
My newly-installed Debian system (wheezy) is working fine for the
most part, except that the login GUI shows up only after I fully shut
down and re-start the system. Neither running reboot nor running
logout will result in a login GUI; instead, the display just goes dark,
and the system appears to hang indefinitely.
I'd like to learn how to troubleshoot this kind of problem (as opposed
to trying random fixes I scrounge up online until one appears to work).
At the moment, I don't know where to begin, and would be thankful for
some suggestions.
Thanks in advance!
kj
--
(tl;dr)
PS: FWIW, here are the only additional, *potentially* relevant
clues I can provide:
1. a few seconds after running logout, the computer's monitor
reports that it's entering power-saving mode; (curiously, this
doesn't seem to happen after I run reboot);
2. after I run reboot or logout (upon which display goes dark,
system hangs, etc.), I press the on/off switch on the computer long
enough for it to go completely silent (shut down?), and then press
it again to re-start the system, for one or two seconds the computer
*sounds* as though it is starting up, but then it immediately goes
completely silent (shuts down?) again. I must press the on/off
switch a third time in order for the computer to *really* re-start;
from this point on, everything works normally;
3. this machine (a new Dell workstation) came with Windows 7
pre-installed in its originally sole hard drive (a 500GB 2.5" SATA
"non-SSD" drive); to this set-up I added a *second* 2.5" internal
drive (this time a 1TB SSD), and then, I installed Debian (from CD)
on this newly-added second disk; although my intent was to leave the
original ("Windows 7") disk untouched, somehow, after I installed
Debian on the second disk I lost the ability to boot from the
original Windows 7 disk, even if I set it (via the BIOS config)
ahead of the "Debian disk" in the boot order; nonetheless, I can
mount and read the original Windows 7 drive, and AFAICT, its
contents are still intact.
By itself, the problem of being unable to boot from the Windows 7
drive is far less important, at the moment, then the problem in this
message's subject line. Therefore, if the two are unrelated (which
would be my uneducated guess), then please dismiss the former problem
(the inability to boot from W7) as a red herring.
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Troubles with ps-print files (was: Environment variables affecting postscript files?)
Rodolfo Medina writes: I'm having troubles with ps files generated by Emacs ps-print package - footers are partially cut off. I'm attaching a test file that shows the problem. Rodolfo stampa.ps Description: PostScript document
Re: alternative to avidemux?
On 28/02/2015 23:26, Ric Moore wrote: Whew! I had to install "all the things-dev" and it finally completed successfully. Thanks! Glad that it worked ! So does anyone know of another gui tool which could do at least one of the following: a) cut videos without reencoding b) burn ssa subs into a video? I can’t believe Avidemux is still the only gui way to do that (and that it’s not part of Debian)! At least (a) is quite a common need, isn’t it? Cheers, Victor -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f5ad8b.7060...@svictor.net
Re: Environment variables affecting postscript files?
Curt writes: > On 2015-03-03, Mark Carroll wrote: >> >>> I'm having troubles with ps files generated by Emacs ps-print package - >>> footers are partially cut off. Is it possibile that some environment >>> variable causes the weird? And how can I know (and work it out)? >> >> I've never used that package, but the first thing I'd check is the paper >> size setting for that and the other software on the processing route. >> > > There's also /etc/papersize (libpaper1 package), which can be overriden > by the PAPERSIZE environment variable. This according to the The Debian > GNU/Linux FAQ. The command `paperconf' gives a4 as output, which is what I expect to be. In fact, neither from gv nor from Emacs mailing list I could work the problem out. Thanks, Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87egp6wbm3@gmail.com
Lost in debian backport patch workflow
Hello, dear debian-Pros, can somebody point me to information how to figure out, understand and partially revert the patching process that finally leads to my currently running kernel: # uname -a Linux cruncher 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt4-3~bpo70+1 (2015-02-12) x86_64 GNU/Linux in order to apply a recent patch for a single kernel module (aufs) ist it - 3.16.0 - 3.16.7 - or maybe containing some patches from later kernel versions? Im trying to setup a cluster with some diskless clients, using aufs-layered nfsroot , exporting those by nfs. I ended up with this kernel (which is current wheezy stable backport) by solving trobule with dracut, idmapd nd dhcp-client, see https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=778580 Now I have still some issues related to aufs layered file system , which is a kernel module. Following the kind support of aufs author J. R. Okajima, I'd try to switch to recent aufs version. I tried to reverse aufs patches from the kernel tree as applied from the version 3.16.0 and reapply patches from aufs 3.16...current. Building aufs module fails. From private conversation with the aufs author: > Note that > - there are three versions related to your case. > + plain linux-3.16.0 > + plain linux-3.16.7 > + debianized 3.16.7-ckt4-3~bpo70+1 > they are all different from each other. > - all aufs releases are for vanilla kernels. i.e. linux-3.16.0 instead > of 3.16.7. in many cases, aufs3.xx is appliable for linux-3.xx.yy. but > sometimes the function signature is changed in yy versions. in this > case, I will release aufs3.xx.yy. > - although I don't look close, aufs3.16 seems to be appliable to > 3.16.7. actually I succeeded it on debian 3.16.7-ckt2-1. > So the changes made between debian 3.16.7-ckt2-1 and ckt4-3~bpo70+1 is > the cause your compiler error. > The error > > > include/linux/kernel.h:834:27: error: =E2=80=98struct dentry=E2=80=99 has > > n= o member=20 > > named =E2=80=98d_alias=E2=80=99 > > is caused by the change in mainline v3.19. > 679829c 2014-12-16 move d_rcu from overlapping d_child to overlapping > d_alias > > And the commit is backported to v3.18.1 in linux-stable. > I guess debian people has backported the commit into their > ckt4-3~bpo70+1 (or ckt3) too. () > The ideal solution will be > - check what was changed by debian, ie. diff v3.16.7 3.16.7-ckt4-3 > (usually it is a simple backport) > - how can aufs follow it (usually it will be a simple backport too) > - and test. () > J. R. Okajima So, my problem boils down to this line: > - check what was changed by debian, ie. diff v3.16.7 3.16.7-ckt4-3 How can I reconstruct these different kernel trees? Any help is greatly appreciated :-) Wolfgang Rosner -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201503031141.49539.wros...@tirnet.de
Re: Environment variables affecting postscript files?
On 2015-03-03, Mark Carroll wrote: > >> I'm having troubles with ps files generated by Emacs ps-print package - >> footers >> are partially cut off. Is it possibile that some environment variable causes >> the weird? And how can I know (and work it out)? > > I've never used that package, but the first thing I'd check is the paper > size setting for that and the other software on the processing route. > There's also /etc/papersize (libpaper1 package), which can be overriden by the PAPERSIZE environment variable. This according to the The Debian GNU/Linux FAQ. -- "Meaning is not in things but in between; in the iridescence, the interplay: in the interconnections; at the intersections, at the crossroads. Meaning is transitional as it is transitory, in the puns or bridges, the correspondence." — Mallarmé -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnmfb48j.22j.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: Cheap way to track disk usage?
On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 11:09:30PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: >Nice idea - unfortunately this is a file server, so the culprits are >likely to be remote, over smb. I guess I could track the smb traffic >and find which client it is ... So maybe filesystem quota could also be helpful? Even without limits set, but used just to track disk usage by individual users? -- Jacek Politowski -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150303102720.GA12242@trek.localdomain
Re: Cheap way to track disk usage?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/03/15 23:17, Richard Hector wrote: > On 03/03/15 22:55, Darac Marjal wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 10:09:41AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: >>> >>> >>> I can run du, but that takes ages, and has a performance >>> impact. df only gives the total for the filesystem, of course. >>> >>> Try ncdu. It also takes some time to finish calculating, but >>> the output is easier to handle and you can drill down to lower >>> directories without losing the other data. > >> Also, if it's useful to you, you can separate out the gathering >> and displaying tasks with ncdu. So you could, for example, run >> "ionice -c3 ncdu -o ~/ncdu-output" late at night (or when the >> system is relatively quiet) and then, in the morning run "ncdu >> -f ~/ncdu-output" to examine the file that was produced by the >> overnight run. > > I didn't spot that option ... because it isn't in the manpage, and > is unknown to the binary :-) Is it in a newer version ... ah, I see > it's in 1.9; wheezy has 1.8. > > If that works, it could indeed be a very useful tool, thanks. Oh, whoops. I forgot - this machine is running lenny. Lenny doesn't have libtinfo5 (which appears to replace ncurses), so I'll need to muck around quite a bit to get ncdu to build :-( Richard -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJU9Y9UAAoJELSi8I/scBaNe0oH/jE6l1ZAIjbOOuQYWm7Rw2tP SoVlgTD+65aqrigD8oSt+a+S07eqo1r+qd9daUfmCPJxQHNsJXdVp1gwk3pnz/vS YwrJ9NyE8YV/BfusJqoEKg54n35jTSLxCfheb1UsubRDUHO96glVm29iyCFry7Xz ob7QNxx2C473JYO+6k8MT+TGkiBdGxu6qt/aDLT4cx8SnAJfGcf7khAAvwc+2efh 1PAXcIXp1cmoKmiXBx65iBYIUQ6TqGsrHfuMmF9gPM5w9sjFd3Nn0Uq2XkOrFBpr X7Gz3HMKTwTvTAVAhlyIfQ+/QyrpBIuUqwT1QL2fhUfhq2R4g1AWy9Dhf6/2aIg= =T2BK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f58f54.4090...@walnut.gen.nz
Re: Cheap way to track disk usage?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/03/15 22:55, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 10:09:41AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: >> >> >> I can run du, but that takes ages, and has a performance impact. >> df only gives the total for the filesystem, of course. >> >> Try ncdu. It also takes some time to finish calculating, but the >> output is easier to handle and you can drill down to lower >> directories without losing the other data. > > Also, if it's useful to you, you can separate out the gathering > and displaying tasks with ncdu. So you could, for example, run > "ionice -c3 ncdu -o ~/ncdu-output" late at night (or when the > system is relatively quiet) and then, in the morning run "ncdu -f > ~/ncdu-output" to examine the file that was produced by the > overnight run. > I didn't spot that option ... because it isn't in the manpage, and is unknown to the binary :-) Is it in a newer version ... ah, I see it's in 1.9; wheezy has 1.8. If that works, it could indeed be a very useful tool, thanks. Richard -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJU9YpRAAoJELSi8I/scBaNOycIAKCQ0fBFxN4PPD8fwgZoutCW MyKoNvVor0RQvg6hCAVIrkkX3yvGrZ0HHfm2lvmgZYiWcPmLM9DxOY/a7nE6Gvtw vTuv4zKUO1nnH3FSvxqEj5bzH35mI5IAYWpfaT0QEQ/wkAvgWigv+BsXf6zd3nyT fmYxrwW+244gBLQw2xdyAcQDDDtOo8gNRMxlwcODycZIZJCtUEHD9wuTNr1G2wAJ JNmAfnPn1V8bc8GU24fUEZqNgfDxwwfYkG/MS0P1FKSOSpjLNsHPrMk2AhvYfEAS VBmsKxCNzG10agRJtu41P9pWSPIOvPr/9bge3/mOY+HCJ+sa1MjYvXVdaLJ+mZg= =lE0s -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f58a52.5070...@walnut.gen.nz
Re: Cheap way to track disk usage?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/03/15 23:01, Alex Mestiashvili wrote: > On 03/03/2015 09:22 AM, Richard Hector wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> In this case, however, we know there's lots of space used, and >> it's supposed to be - what we don't know is where in the tree >> that usage is changing. That requires running du multiple times, >> and if done too often that will have a significant performance >> impact on the system. >> > > May be you can try to locate the processes creating the files, like > iotop will show you the most active ones and then you can track > down the open files with help of lsof for example ? Nice idea - unfortunately this is a file server, so the culprits are likely to be remote, over smb. I guess I could track the smb traffic and find which client it is ... Thanks, Richard -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJU9YhaAAoJELSi8I/scBaNhX0IAIp77Arf2uOTe5Dmg/zDT3HA pXFhuwOa4FWTmehDSxvHHXJxYfooqFc2jzzAiPsr77VusIw88Tprf2Vm/7obGniC 39jcwbsywBM2T5cOp90Ibj3Z75km4kw/MNIykMr3AzB5mWCod8eVFRuUBDhv4JEi S4S2rlz1lDhhK+0c5X8URPqDxzcenExPWtc8meTqKDlJgdAYBIAE5RBgAKxqqGQw TnuwMUZddYhHQBLH1+gzbO3ShSlOqeppg4IW+RUXk2qQ60Zs9IYEwlZ1tGZT8Xjh mGErdlDHEkf5tw0s8ROdLCdYyNin7QGPO+ZD4m4ZKTYpGQPTzr8X+eYDDLj+7dY= =av1g -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f5885a.4020...@walnut.gen.nz
Re: Cheap way to track disk usage?
On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 08:29:53PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: >I can run du, but that takes ages, and has a performance impact. With "idle" I/O scheduler class (set with ionice) does it still have a big performance impact? -- Jacek Politowski -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150303093427.GA29695@trek.localdomain
Re: Cheap way to track disk usage?
On 03/03/2015 09:22 AM, Richard Hector wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In this case, however, we know there's lots of space used, and it's supposed to be - what we don't know is where in the tree that usage is changing. That requires running du multiple times, and if done too often that will have a significant performance impact on the system. May be you can try to locate the processes creating the files, like iotop will show you the most active ones and then you can track down the open files with help of lsof for example ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f5867b.3020...@biotec.tu-dresden.de
Re: Cheap way to track disk usage?
On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 10:09:41AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: > > > I can run du, but that takes ages, and has a performance impact. df > only gives the total for the filesystem, of course. > >Try ncdu. It also takes some time to finish calculating, but the output >is easier to handle and you can drill down to lower directories without >losing the other data. Also, if it's useful to you, you can separate out the gathering and displaying tasks with ncdu. So you could, for example, run "ionice -c3 ncdu -o ~/ncdu-output" late at night (or when the system is relatively quiet) and then, in the morning run "ncdu -f ~/ncdu-output" to examine the file that was produced by the overnight run. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Environment variables affecting postscript files?
Rodolfo Medina writes: > I'm having troubles with ps files generated by Emacs ps-print package - > footers > are partially cut off. Is it possibile that some environment variable causes > the weird? And how can I know (and work it out)? I've never used that package, but the first thing I'd check is the paper size setting for that and the other software on the processing route. -- Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87d24qlbxl@ixod.org
Re: Cheap way to track disk usage?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/03/15 21:09, Johann Spies wrote: > > > > I can run du, but that takes ages, and has a performance impact. > df only gives the total for the filesystem, of course. > > > Try ncdu. It also takes some time to finish calculating, but the > output is easier to handle and you can drill down to lower > directories without losing the other data. Thanks Johann, That looks a really nice tool, and for generally finding out where space is used, is great - better than the sequential du that I use for that at the moment. In this case, however, we know there's lots of space used, and it's supposed to be - what we don't know is where in the tree that usage is changing. That requires running du multiple times, and if done too often that will have a significant performance impact on the system. ncdu will be no different in that respect, except that it's less suitable for capturing the output for later analysis and comparison. For that, I'm currently using find to generate csv files that I can compare with whatever tools - but I can only do that at relatively large intervals, so I don't get a very detailed picture. Richard -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJU9W9hAAoJELSi8I/scBaNBnAH/R7KhvSRXTqTpfaSdN4wZQyz 5QfNZDamLBuPCLnAZXzXcxj7WIIHlTegnQd4T8XVOR+nAAPajwxdwAbWJ1Me38y5 FSAHzyokc8YJFpHV9sU4iCBXM/kbhaVwEmM8hO9I2PG2a8WFNeAbdE6LSxC+7BVV 4jNrpbOgitCzRnfQ4GXjC9UsfxAEH4qtOzTSizKxNneUqqvlm3K28Aj6XMjmSm59 hZc6or+J7Pjr2glzvwUwUXnxl2w3OxS5g/YSt0YpGixqCzPvnKAxyOIQ3jKO5xBk o5Q58xmIHchNvbun6cZHrIdQwM8iw8GXVA5yTZFHXSrEcE+MvWaLb4DqgNIrYXs= =y0Ph -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54f56f61.8050...@walnut.gen.nz
Re: Cheap way to track disk usage?
> I can run du, but that takes ages, and has a performance impact. df > only gives the total for the filesystem, of course. > > Try ncdu. It also takes some time to finish calculating, but the output is easier to handle and you can drill down to lower directories without losing the other data. Regards Johann -- Because experiencing your loyal love is better than life itself, my lips will praise you. (Psalm 63:3)
Re: Purging depends in cinnamon
On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 12:34:51AM -0500, Frank wrote: > >Yes it's a virtual package with a long list of depends. I ended up > purging it which also took out 25 or 30 other packages...none of which I > need anyway. So, all's well that ends well. You could always install the ones you wanted again individually afterwards, anyway. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150303075939.GA1996@tal
