date:20150522

Bonjour,

connexion sans problème avec Firefox 38.0.1



Le 22/05/2015 11:13, Klaus Becker a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 
 ce matin, je ne peux plus aller avec Iceweasel sur donnons.org, je reçois
 :
 
 Cette connexion n'est pas certifiée
 
 Vous avez demandé à Firefox de se connecter de manière sécurisée à 
 donnons.org, mais nous ne pouvons pas confirmer que votre connexion est 
 sécurisée.
 
 Normalement, lorsque vous essayez de vous connecter de manière sécurisée,
 les sites présentent une identification certifiée pour prouver que vous
 vous trouvez à la bonne adresse. Cependant, l'identité de ce site ne peut
 pas être vérifiée. Que dois-je faire ?
 
 Si vous vous connectez habituellement à ce site sans problème, cette erreur
 peut signifier que quelqu'un essaie d'usurper l'identité de ce site et vous
 ne devriez pas continuer.
 
 Ce site a recours à HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) pour indiquer à
 Firefox de n'établir qu'une connexion sécurisée. Ainsi il n'est pas
 possible d'ajouter d'exception pour ce certificat.
 
 donnons.org utilise un certificat de sécurité invalide.
 
 Le certificat n'est pas sûr car l'autorité délivrant le certificat est 
 inconnue.
 
 (Code d'erreur : sec_error_unknown_issuer)
 
 Or avec konqueror, il n'y a pas de problème.
 
 Je tiens à visiter le site avec Iceweasel parce que j'utilise un plugin
 Mozilla pour être averti presqu'en temps réel, certains dons.
 
 En réalité j'utilise Firefox, mais cela ne fait aucune différence à mon 
 avis. J'ai le même problème avec Firefox Nightly.
 
 librement
 
 Klaus
 
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[Resolu] Re: Voyage dans subversion, sshfs, NFS et le temps

2015-05-22 Thread Yann Cohen

Le jeudi 21 mai 2015 à 14:52 +0200, Vincent Lefevre a écrit :
 On 2015-05-20 15:55:38 +0200, Yann Cohen wrote:
 [sshfs]
  J'ai laissé courir, effectué mon portage, réussi la compilation et
  lorsque que j'ai voulu remonter les modifications via un svn commit
  j'ai :
  svn: E20: Succès de la propagation (commit), mais erreurs : 
  svn: E155009: Erreur en incrémentant les révisions après la propagation
  (post-commit), détails :
  svn: E155009: Failed to run the WC DB work queue associated with
  '/home/yann/media/woody-cac/CAC/Libraries', work item 179 (file-commit
  http/server.c)
  svn: E01: Impossible de déplacer
  '/home/yann/media/woody-cac/CAC/Libraries/.svn/tmp/svn-DGcdI3' vers
  '/home/yann/media/woody-cac/CAC/Libraries/.svn/tmp/svn-cUDDqf':
  Opération non permise
 
 Ça a l'air d'être un rename svn-DGcdI3 - svn-cUDDqf qui échoue.
 Tu as bien utilisé -o workaround=rename pour sshfs?

Well Done !

je n'ai plus qu'à RTFM afin de comprendre l'option !

Pour NFS je laisse tomber maintenant que j'ai une solution correcte avec
sshfs...

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Re: Boot menu entries

2015-05-22 Thread Bob Proulx

Emil Payne wrote:
 'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64'
 'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-rt-amd64'
 'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-amd64'
 'Debian GNU/Linux, with Xen 4.1-amd64 and Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64'
 'Debian GNU/Linux, with Xen 4.1-amd64 and Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-rt-amd64'
 'Debian GNU/Linux, with Xen 4.1-amd64 and Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-amd64'

 Ok, and which one's should I purge if I have no idea what the differences
 are?
 bpo?
 rt?
 xen?

These are the kernels you have installed.  For example from my long
running Sid machine that I haven't ever done any cleanup on making it
a good example of a lot of kernels.

$ dpkg -S /boot/vmlinuz-*
linux-image-2.6.39-2-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.39-2-amd64
linux-image-3.0.0-2-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-2-amd64
linux-image-3.1.0-1-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.1.0-1-amd64
linux-image-3.10-1-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.10-1-amd64
linux-image-3.10-2-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.10-2-amd64
linux-image-3.10-3-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.10-3-amd64
linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64
linux-image-3.2.0-1-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-1-amd64
linux-image-3.2.0-2-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-2-amd64
linux-image-3.2.0-3-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-3-amd64
linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64
linux-image-3.8-2-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.8-2-amd64
linux-image-3.9-1-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.9-1-amd64
linux-image-4.0.0-1-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-4.0.0-1-amd64

The newest latest kernel installed is on the bottom.  Don't delete
it.  It is also possible if you haven't rebooted that you will be
running an older kernel since something newer was installed.

$ uname -r
4.0.0-1-amd64

That is rebooted but another system:

$ uname -r
3.9-1-amd64

Don't remove the running kernel nor the latest kernel.  Remove all of
the others.

Bob


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Re: Boot menu entries

2015-05-22 Thread Lisi Reisz

On Friday 22 May 2015 21:24:43 Bob Proulx wrote:
 Emil Payne wrote:
  'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64'
  'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-rt-amd64'
  'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-amd64'
  'Debian GNU/Linux, with Xen 4.1-amd64 and Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64'
  'Debian GNU/Linux, with Xen 4.1-amd64 and Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-rt-amd64'
  'Debian GNU/Linux, with Xen 4.1-amd64 and Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-amd64'
 
  Ok, and which one's should I purge if I have no idea what the differences
  are?
  bpo?
  rt?
  xen?

 These are the kernels you have installed.  For example from my long
 running Sid machine that I haven't ever done any cleanup on making it
 a good example of a lot of kernels.

 $ dpkg -S /boot/vmlinuz-*
 linux-image-2.6.39-2-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.39-2-amd64
 linux-image-3.0.0-2-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-2-amd64
 linux-image-3.1.0-1-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.1.0-1-amd64
 linux-image-3.10-1-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.10-1-amd64
 linux-image-3.10-2-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.10-2-amd64
 linux-image-3.10-3-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.10-3-amd64
 linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64
 linux-image-3.2.0-1-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-1-amd64
 linux-image-3.2.0-2-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-2-amd64
 linux-image-3.2.0-3-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-3-amd64
 linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64
 linux-image-3.8-2-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.8-2-amd64
 linux-image-3.9-1-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.9-1-amd64
 linux-image-4.0.0-1-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-4.0.0-1-amd64

 The newest latest kernel installed is on the bottom.

Not here.  I have the oldest on the bottom.

lisi@Tux-II:~$ dpkg -S /boot/vmlinuz-*
linux-image-3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64
linux-image-3.16-0.bpo.2-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.16-0.bpo.2-amd64
linux-image-3.16-0.bpo.3-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.16-0.bpo.3-amd64
linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64
lisi@Tux-II:~$

Lisi


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Re: Colorized Prompts Problem - Thanks for the Deconstruction

2015-05-22 Thread David Wright

Quoting Chris Bannister (cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz):
 On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 09:49:12PM -0500, David Wright wrote (and corrected 
 himself):

  This conversation made me revisit my own prompt which I have now
  modified. I thought I'd share it with you in case any part of it
  should be helpful.
  
  LOCAL_COLOR is set in a host-specific file that also sets things like
  different colours for midnight commander (mc) so I know which host I'm on.
  
  PROMPT_COMMAND adds a space after the return code and then removes
  itself if it would print zero. It also sets the title-bar in an xterm,
  again so I know where I am. (I have a couple of dozen xterms, some
  ssh'd to other hosts.) Putting the tty number in the title bar makes
  it easier to kill an xterm should it freeze.
  
  PS1 makes any non-zero return code stand out; then the local colour
  takes over the rest of the prompt. Note that the 0; is required in
  LOCAL_COLOR to cancel the earlier 1; that highlights the return code.
  Breaking the PS1 line into 3 parts avoids another level of quoting.
  
  
  LOCAL_COLOR='\e[0;34m' # blue (this is in ~/.bash-hostname)

I was economical with the truth to make the posting simpler.

.bashrc has . .bash-1-hostname near the top (and . .bash-9-hostname
near the bottom) to set host-specific parameters and functions.

.bash-1-hostname in turn has . .bash-c-colour to set its desired
colours in LOCAL_COLOR and MC_COLOR_TABLE. (The latter accounts for
the spelling of the former.)

  export PROMPT_COMMAND='MYPROMPT=$?   [ $MYPROMPT = 0  ]  
  MYPROMPT='
  case $TERM in
  xterm*)
  export PROMPT_COMMAND+= ; echo -ne '\e]0;${HOSTNAME^^}  $(tty) 
   ${HOSTNAME^^}\a'
  ;;
  esac
  
  export PS1='\[\e[1;33;41m\]$MYPROMPT\['
  export PS1+=$LOCAL_COLOR
  export PS1+='\]\H!\u \t \w \$ \[\e[m\]'
  unset LOCAL_COLOR
(I've corrected || in the original posting to ;.)

 Is all that in one file? Is it sourced via .bashrc?

So not one file, but the lines in the last section quoted above *are*
the very last lines in ~/.bashrc. Why last? To avoid my startup files
printing anything with non-interactive shells, which they detect by
PS1 being empty/unset.

The only other slightly relevant change I made was to add the line

:

to ~/.bash_profile in order to prevent one getting a highlighted
return code on logging in, eg, if the last command is a grep that
matches nothing.

Cheers,
David.


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Re: Boot menu entries

2015-05-22 Thread Brian

On Fri 22 May 2015 at 16:24:29 -0500, Emil Payne wrote:

 On 05/22/2015 03:24 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:
 
 $ uname -r
 3.9-1-amd64
 
 Don't remove the running kernel nor the latest kernel.  Remove all of
 the others.
 
 Bob
 
 
 BTW What is the linux-header? Is that just to compile my own? Do I
 need to keep these?

You are full of questions but very short on saying whether the advice
you have been given answers your needs,

Delete headers packages too. You put them there and should know whether
you need them.


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unattended-upgrade fails to upgrade libreoffice

2015-05-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas


Hello,

I have libreoffice and unattended-upgrades installed on wheezy/i386.
the newer libreoffice packages have been uploaded some time ago, but
unattended-upgrade still fails to install them.


When I run unattended-upgrade -d, strange error appears:
pkg 'libreoffice-evolution' now marked delete
...
pkg 'libreoffice-gnome' now marked delete

(the full output below).

Trying to upgrade manually with apt-get or aptitude reports no problem, (no
conflistsor dependencies) but unattended-upgrade still fails.

Is there a known problem related to this message?


root@fhome# unattended-upgrade -d
Initial blacklisted packages: 
Starting unattended upgrades script

Allowed origins are: ['origin=Debian,archive=stable,label=Debian-Security', 
'origin=Debian,archive=oldstable,label=Debian-Security']
Checking: libreoffice ([Origin component:'main' archive:'oldstable' origin:'Debian' 
label:'Debian-Security' site:'security.debian.org' isTrusted:True])
pkg 'libreoffice-evolution' now marked delete
sanity check failed
Checking: libreoffice-base ([Origin component:'main' archive:'oldstable' 
origin:'Debian' label:'Debian-Security' site:'security.debian.org' isTrusted:True])
pkg 'libreoffice-evolution' now marked delete
sanity check failed
Checking: libreoffice-base-core ([Origin component:'main' archive:'oldstable' 
origin:'Debian' label:'Debian-Security' site:'security.debian.org' isTrusted:True])
pkg 'libreoffice-evolution' now marked delete
sanity check failed
Checking: libreoffice-calc ([Origin component:'main' archive:'oldstable' 
origin:'Debian' label:'Debian-Security' site:'security.debian.org' isTrusted:True])
pkg 'libreoffice-evolution' now marked delete
sanity check failed
Checking: libreoffice-core ([Origin component:'main' archive:'oldstable' 
origin:'Debian' label:'Debian-Security' site:'security.debian.org' isTrusted:True])
pkg 'libreoffice-evolution' now marked delete
sanity check failed
Checking: libreoffice-draw ([Origin component:'main' archive:'oldstable' 
origin:'Debian' label:'Debian-Security' site:'security.debian.org' isTrusted:True])
pkg 'libreoffice-evolution' now marked delete
sanity check failed
Checking: libreoffice-evolution ([Origin component:'main' archive:'oldstable' 
origin:'Debian' label:'Debian-Security' site:'security.debian.org' isTrusted:True])
sanity check failed
Checking: libreoffice-filter-binfilter ([Origin component:'main' archive:'oldstable' 
origin:'Debian' label:'Debian-Security' site:'security.debian.org' isTrusted:True])
pkg 'libreoffice-evolution' now marked delete
sanity check failed
Checking: libreoffice-gnome ([Origin component:'main' archive:'oldstable' 
origin:'Debian' label:'Debian-Security' site:'security.debian.org' isTrusted:True])
pkg 'libreoffice-evolution' now marked delete
sanity check failed
Checking: libreoffice-gtk ([Origin component:'main' archive:'oldstable' 
origin:'Debian' label:'Debian-Security' site:'security.debian.org' isTrusted:True])
pkg 'libreoffice-evolution' now marked delete
sanity check failed
Checking: libreoffice-impress ([Origin component:'main' archive:'oldstable' 
origin:'Debian' label:'Debian-Security' site:'security.debian.org' isTrusted:True])
pkg 'libreoffice-evolution' now marked delete
sanity check failed
Checking: libreoffice-kde ([Origin component:'main' archive:'oldstable' 
origin:'Debian' label:'Debian-Security' site:'security.debian.org' isTrusted:True])
pkg 'libreoffice-evolution' now marked delete
sanity check failed
Checking: libreoffice-math ([Origin component:'main' archive:'oldstable' 
origin:'Debian' label:'Debian-Security' site:'security.debian.org' isTrusted:True])
pkg 'libreoffice-evolution' now marked delete
sanity check failed
Checking: libreoffice-officebean ([Origin component:'main' archive:'oldstable' 
origin:'Debian' label:'Debian-Security' site:'security.debian.org' isTrusted:True])
pkg 'libreoffice-evolution' now marked delete
sanity check failed
Checking: libreoffice-writer ([Origin component:'main' archive:'oldstable' 
origin:'Debian' label:'Debian-Security' site:'security.debian.org' isTrusted:True])
pkg 'libreoffice-evolution' now marked delete
sanity check failed
Checking: python-uno ([Origin component:'main' archive:'oldstable' origin:'Debian' 
label:'Debian-Security' site:'security.debian.org' isTrusted:True])
pkg 'libreoffice-evolution' now marked delete
sanity check failed
pkgs that look like they should be upgraded: 
Fetched 0 B in 0s (0 B/s)
fetch.run() result: 0

blacklist: []
InstCount=0 DelCount=0 BrokenCout=0
Packages that are upgraded: 
root@fhome# 





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Re: Query about possible impact of leap second on Debian Linux

2015-05-22 Thread Bob Proulx

Bret Busby wrote:
 ... so, upon checking (using Synaptic) the tzdata package(s), and
 finding they needed updating, apparently without depending on the
 kernel update(s), I have now updated the tzdata packages. There are
 tzdata and tzdata-java, both of which had updates available.

The tzdata package is updated through the stable-updates section, not
to be confused with the security stable/updates section.  They are
similarly named but different update channels.  The stable-updates
path is the one time named volatile section for those that remember
it.  It is for updates that by their nature must update more often
than the Debian Stable release and point release cycle.

Packages such as tzdata are updated when governments change the
timezones.  This happens outside of distribution release cycles.

For Debian Stable Jessie 8 the following shows all three sets of
sources that one should have in their sources.list in order to get all
of the updates they should be getting.[*] This is the main archive
where most packages exist, the updates source for packages such as
tzdata, and the security source for security upgrades.

deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main
deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main

deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie-updates main
deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie-updates main

deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main

Bob

[*] Note that httpredir.debian.org is the redirector and the same as
if one had the geographic alias ftp.XX.debian.org where XX is your
country code such as ftp.us.debian.org.  Either is okay.  I am using
the redirector in the documentation above so that it is generic.  If
you have the country code alias version that is fine too.


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Re: HELP- very slow download speeds

2015-05-22 Thread Bob Proulx

Darac Marjal wrote:
 Gary Roach wrote:
  When I start a download, it starts at 50M for the first few
  seconds and then drops to 500K to 100K range.

 Finally, don't rule out the possibility that your ISP is throttling
 you. While you may be synced at 50M and may be able to transfer at that
 for short periods (and thus, the ISP can rightly claim that you have a
 50M connection), they could conceivably throttle your connection in the
 longer term.

I think this is quite the most likely possibility.  I have only
anecdotal reports from friends but what I hear is that often ISPs
allow a full speed burst but then throttle for long term steady state
data transfer.  That matches your reported behavior exactly.  This
allows customers to run a speed test and have it report full speed but
prevent them from getting that speed for a long download such as a
full system upgrade or a large install ISO image download.  Are you
sure your ISP isn't throttling you?

Bob


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No keyboard or mouse after X starts

2015-05-22 Thread Daniel Lintott


Hi,

NB: I'm not subscribed on the list so please CC me

II have just installed Jessie after using Wheezy for many months.

The install completes fine but when X/gdm3 starts neither the keyboard 
or mouse are functional.


If I boot into the recovery console, the keyboard works fine and both 
are present in lsusb.


I have also tried using Cinnamon and lightdm, but this had the exact 
same problem.


Any ideas?

Cheers,

Daniel


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Re: Boot menu entries

2015-05-22 Thread Ric Moore


On 05/22/2015 03:34 PM, Brian wrote:

On Fri 22 May 2015 at 12:39:58 -0500, Emil Payne wrote:


On 05/22/2015 04:30 AM, Floris wrote:

Op Fri, 22 May 2015 03:00:36 +0200 schreef Emil Payne ehspa...@yahoo.com:


My boot menu has the following entries (plus recovery mode), I always
default to entry 0. What are the others and how do I delete unwanted
ones?

'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64'
'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-rt-amd64'
'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-amd64'
'Debian GNU/Linux, with Xen 4.1-amd64 and Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64'
'Debian GNU/Linux, with Xen 4.1-amd64 and Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-rt-amd64'
'Debian GNU/Linux, with Xen 4.1-amd64 and Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-amd64'




remove the corresponding kernel package and the menu items will be removed

for example:
$ apt-get purge linux-image-3.2.0-0-bpo.4-amd64

success,

floris



Ok, and which one's should I purge if I have no idea what the
differences are?
bpo?
rt?
xen?


You have no idea why these kernels are on you system? Why should we
know why you put them there in the first place?

Purge anything beginning with linux-image, But stop at the one which
most obviously says something like this will destroy your system.


The rt image, that is for real-time no? The average user would not 
use that one. I think the jack audio system drags that one in. Ric




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Re: [OT] Generar Reportes/Documentación

2015-05-22 Thread Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus

Podrías probar con pandoc a XML (bien formado) y de ahí con ConTeXt
pasar a pdf sin el HTML. Aunque para saber mejor que usar sería bueno
saber cual es tu entrada en pandoc. Si es desde Writer puedes sacar el
pdf directamente sin tanto engorro.


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Re: Query about possible impact of leap second on Debian Linux

2015-05-22 Thread Bret Busby

On 23/05/2015, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:
Bret Busby wrote:
... so, upon checking (using Synaptic) the tzdata package(s), and
finding they needed updating, apparently without depending on the
kernel update(s), I have now updated the tzdata packages. There are
tzdata and tzdata-java, both of which had updates available.

The tzdata package is updated through the stable-updates section, not
to be confused with the security stable/updates section. They are
similarly named but different update channels. The stable-updates
path is the one time named volatile section for those that remember
it. It is for updates that by their nature must update more often
than the Debian Stable release and point release cycle.

Packages such as tzdata are updated when governments change the
timezones. This happens outside of distribution release cycles.

For Debian Stable Jessie 8 the following shows all three sets of
sources that one should have in their sources.list in order to get all
of the updates they should be getting.[*] This is the main archive
where most packages exist, the updates source for packages such as
tzdata, and the security source for security upgrades.

deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main
deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main

deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie-updates main
deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie-updates main

deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main

And, with Debian 6 LTS, in /etc/apt/sources.list, I have, apart from
the commented out lines,

deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free

deb http://http.debian.net/debian squeeze-lts main contrib non-free

deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian squeeze-lts main contrib non-free

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Re: Boot menu entries

2015-05-22 Thread Emil Payne


On 05/22/2015 03:24 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:

Emil Payne wrote:

'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64'
'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-rt-amd64'
'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-amd64'
'Debian GNU/Linux, with Xen 4.1-amd64 and Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64'
'Debian GNU/Linux, with Xen 4.1-amd64 and Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-rt-amd64'
'Debian GNU/Linux, with Xen 4.1-amd64 and Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-amd64'


Ok, and which one's should I purge if I have no idea what the differences
are?
bpo?
rt?
xen?


These are the kernels you have installed.  For example from my long
running Sid machine that I haven't ever done any cleanup on making it
a good example of a lot of kernels.

$ dpkg -S /boot/vmlinuz-*
linux-image-2.6.39-2-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.39-2-amd64
linux-image-3.0.0-2-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-2-amd64
linux-image-3.1.0-1-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.1.0-1-amd64
linux-image-3.10-1-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.10-1-amd64
linux-image-3.10-2-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.10-2-amd64
linux-image-3.10-3-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.10-3-amd64
linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64
linux-image-3.2.0-1-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-1-amd64
linux-image-3.2.0-2-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-2-amd64
linux-image-3.2.0-3-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-3-amd64
linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64
linux-image-3.8-2-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.8-2-amd64
linux-image-3.9-1-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-3.9-1-amd64
linux-image-4.0.0-1-amd64: /boot/vmlinuz-4.0.0-1-amd64

The newest latest kernel installed is on the bottom.  Don't delete
it.  It is also possible if you haven't rebooted that you will be
running an older kernel since something newer was installed.

$ uname -r
4.0.0-1-amd64

That is rebooted but another system:

$ uname -r
3.9-1-amd64

Don't remove the running kernel nor the latest kernel.  Remove all of
the others.

Bob



BTW What is the linux-header? Is that just to compile my own? Do I need 
to keep these?



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Re: no more sound cards

2015-05-22 Thread Sven Arvidsson

On Fri, 2015-05-22 at 21:40 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
 On Fri, 22 May 2015, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
 
  Are the sound modules loaded? I'm guessing snd_hda_intel for the Intel
  stuff, and other snd_ for the rest of the hardware.
 
after boot, no:
 - lsmod | grep snd
 (empty output)
 - ls /proc/asound
  ls: cannot access /proc/asound: No such file or directory
 
 after: - modprobe snd-emu10k1:
 - lsmod | grep snd
 snd_emu10k1_synth  12923  0
 snd_emux_synth 32071  1 snd_emu10k1_synth
 snd_seq_midi_emul  12678  1 snd_emux_synth
 snd_seq_virmidi12948  1 snd_emux_synth
 snd_emu10k1   129764  1 snd_emu10k1_synth
 snd_util_mem   12659  2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
 snd_hwdep  12906  2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1
 snd_ac97_codec 96151  1 snd_emu10k1
 snd_pcm_oss44124  0
 snd_mixer_oss  21822  1 snd_pcm_oss
 snd_pcm78128  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_ac97_codec,snd_emu10k1
 snd_seq_midi   12744  0
 snd_seq_midi_event 13124  2 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi
 snd_rawmidi22284  3 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emu10k1,snd_seq_midi
 snd_seq51555  5 
 snd_seq_midi_event,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_emul,snd_seq_midi
 snd_seq_device 12980  5 
 snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emu10k1,snd_seq_midi
 snd_timer  22010  3 snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_emu10k1
 snd55101  12 
 snd_pcm_oss,snd_ac97_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emu10k1,snd_seq_device,snd_mixer_oss
 soundcore  12890  1 snd
 ac97_bus   12462  1 snd_ac97_codec

Not sure what is going on here, but you seem to have oss sound, instead
of alsa?

As you seem to have more than one soundcard, try removing/disabling all
but one (I'd guess preferably the Intel one) and see if that narrows it
down.

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Re: Boot menu entries

2015-05-22 Thread Emil Payne


On 05/22/2015 02:24 PM, Floris wrote:

Op Fri, 22 May 2015 19:39:58 +0200 schreef Emil Payne ehspa...@yahoo.com:


On 05/22/2015 04:30 AM, Floris wrote:

Op Fri, 22 May 2015 03:00:36 +0200 schreef Emil Payne
ehspa...@yahoo.com:


My boot menu has the following entries (plus recovery mode), I always
default to entry 0. What are the others and how do I delete unwanted
ones?

'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64'
'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-rt-amd64'
'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-amd64'
'Debian GNU/Linux, with Xen 4.1-amd64 and Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64'
'Debian GNU/Linux, with Xen 4.1-amd64 and Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-rt-amd64'
'Debian GNU/Linux, with Xen 4.1-amd64 and Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-amd64'




remove the corresponding kernel package and the menu items will be
removed

for example:
$ apt-get purge linux-image-3.2.0-0-bpo.4-amd64

success,

floris



Ok, and which one's should I purge if I have no idea what the
differences are?
bpo?
rt?
xen?




if you don't have any fancy settings/ options/ wishes such as a
real time audio server (rt), virtual servers (Xen), etc. I recommend you
purge all packages and keep the first one (Debian GNU/Linux,
with Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64) (bpo are the backport versions, but the normal
is newer than the backport version)

success,

floris





Ok, here's a screenshot of my pending synaptic changes. I got no 
warnings. Does everything look ok?


https://www.dropbox.com/s/7d8oqcny78ly320/linux%20synaptic.png?dl=0



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diferença entre sh e ./

2015-05-22 Thread Tiago Pigazao

Boa noite

Pessoal alguem sabe, qual é a diferença de se executar um shell script com
sh ou com ./ ?

estou com o seguinte cenário..

tenho um script com permissão de execução ok , ao executar com sh ele não
funciona (da problema na linha do if), agora se executar com ./  funciona
ok... segue script abaixo :

#!/bin/bash
for var in $(seq 100) ; do
if (( $var % 2 == 0 ))
then
echo $var
fi ; done

Re: Need SAS HBA for Debian Jessie

On Monday, May 18, 2015 at 10:00:04 PM UTC-5, Bob Bernstein wrote:
 On Mon, 18 May 2015, Petter Adsen wrote:

 Just as an aside, this is a Debian user forum. 
  Frankly, it strikes me as a bit strange to advise 
  someone asking a question concerning an ordinary 
  use of Debian to go somewhere else.
 
 Oh dear, I can see I have o'erstepped my bounds! 

   Hardly that.  I'm not a moderator, and it would not be my opinion you had 
done something wrong if I were.  It just seems an odd response, given the focus 
of the forum.


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Re: Need SAS HBA for Debian Jessie

On Tuesday, May 19, 2015 at 9:50:06 AM UTC-5, Winfried Boxleitner wrote:

 I'm using an Adaptec 7805H 

   Hmm.  That is SFF-8643.  'Not ideal.  I would really rather SFF-8088, or at 
least SFF-8087, for which I have some adapters.

(PCIe) which is supported by standard kernel
 (currently I'm running: 3.16.0-4-amd64).

   What about the management software?


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Re: diferença entre sh e ./

2015-05-22 Thread Linux - Junior Polegato

Olá!

O shell, interpretador de linhas de comandos, tem suas variações no
universo Unix, sendo o sh o mais simples e compatível entre os sistemas
Unix/Linux.

No Linux, o mais usado é o bash (Bourne-Again Shell), o qual contém um
conjunto bem completo de extensões do shell (sh) e interpreta expressões
regulares bem complexas, de tal forma que praticamente todos scripts feitos
com bash não rodam com sh, isto é, são pouco portáveis entre sistemas Unix.
Veja mais detalhes nos sites em http://aurelio.net/shell/

Respondendo sua pergunta, você fez um script bash e está tentando rodar com
sh, onde a probabilidade de não rodar já foi explicada acima. Mas quando
usa ./ acontece que o shell verifica na primeira linha, que tem os
caracteres mágicos #!, qual é um script e qual interpretador utilizar, que,
no seu caso, é o bash, daí seu script roda.

[]'s

Junior Polegato
 Em 22/05/2015 23:04, Tiago Pigazao piga...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Boa noite

 Pessoal alguem sabe, qual é a diferença de se executar um shell script com
 sh ou com ./ ?

 estou com o seguinte cenário..

 tenho um script com permissão de execução ok , ao executar com sh ele
 não funciona (da problema na linha do if), agora se executar com ./
 funciona ok... segue script abaixo :

 #!/bin/bash
 for var in $(seq 100) ; do
 if (( $var % 2 == 0 ))
 then
 echo $var
 fi ; done

Re: Postfix comportement étrange

2015-05-22 Thread Daniel Caillibaud

Le 21/05/15 à 15:24, Samuel debian-user-french-2...@ingescom.com a écrit :
S C'est ce que j'avais mis en place (en changeant la requête user_query de 
S dovecot)

Ah ben non, faut que tu crée une nouvelle requete pour cet usage de 
check_policy_service sans
casser les requêtes existantes, sinon évidemment dovecot va utiliser cette 
requete modifiée
pour trouver les users et ça va remonter les alias aussi et évidemment créer 
d'autre problèmes.

Mais c'est un principe assez générique, quand tu veux réutiliser un truc fourni 
par un paquet
qu'il faut modifier pour en faire un usage voisin mais différent, faut utiliser 
une version
dupliquée puis modifiée (ça évite de casser l'existant et évite aussi que la 
prochaine mise à
jour du paquet écrase tes modifs).

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Re: Need SAS HBA for Debian Jessie

On Monday, May 18, 2015 at 5:40:05 AM UTC-5, Petter Adsen wrote:

 I don't have money to send to Red Hat.  First of all, one reason
  (although not the only one, by far) I am using Linux is it is free of
  commercial restraints.  Secondly, these are not commercial systems.
  These are a pair of home RAID arrays used primarily to store a
  personal video library.  Thirdly, I rather dislike Red Hat's
  distribution and administration system.  I much prefer Debian.
 
 I am sorry if this is a dumb question

   Not in the least.

 but if this is a home system,
 why can you not go for more commodity hardware? While I do recognize
 there are differences between SAS and SATA, do you really need SAS in
 a home setting - for a media library? SATA may be the simplest/cheapest
 solution, to my way of thinking.

   Not beyond about 10 drives, plus I have had a fair amount of problems with 
eSATA deployments.  The bottom line, however, is that in trouble shooting my 
problems with the systems I converted my 20 drive Port Multiplier eSATA chassis 
to multi-lane.

 I would assume there are far more people running Linux with a SATA
 system than there are for SAS, so it should be more widely tested, and
 information would not be so scarce. Granted, this might be less true
 when you are talking about high-end RAID controllers, but still.

   Oh, you're right, although I had many of the same issues in that area, as 
well.  That said, I still have not definitively pinpointed the source of the 
problems.  The LSI controller on the Squeeze system is working without a hard 
failure, however.  A couple of the drives still suffer timeouts with that 
controller, but it doesn't barf when they do.  It just resets the drive.  I 
would happily buy another of these LSI controllers, but they don't have support 
for the management utility under Jessie (or Wheezy, for that matter).  They 
work with the kernel, but without using the management software to tweak the 
controller parameters (especially the write-through cache), performance is 
truly dismal.  I mean really, really bad.

 Here I agree with you. OTOH, if this had been for a enterprise
 setting, a suggestion to check out RH - with their level of commercial
 support - would not necessarily be a bad one.


 Canonical might have been
 another one, I haven't personally dealt with them.
 
   to be very good at reliably supporting a lot of 
   different hardware. (I'm out of that consulting 
   biz now...for some time now.)
  
 Honestly, IMO this isn't primarily an issue of hardware support.
  It is an issue of informational support by the hardware
  manufacturers.  They post lots of fru-fru information about their
  product without posting the information one really needs to know to
  make an informed purchase.  Very few of the HBA manufactureer inform
  the user whether the card at hand supports LBA 48 or not.  I have
  purchase several controllers only to find the drive size limited to
  2T.  Many devices that only specify RH and / or SuSE are in fact
  perfectly well supported under Debian and most of its derivatives.
  Many just report Linux support, when in fact there is no support
  under many distros.
 
 Again, I agree. In this scenario, I would find a couple of controllers
 that would seem to suit my purpose, and contact the manufacturers
 directly with very specific questions. One of these questions would be
 whether or not the controller is supported by the Linux kernel itself,
 or if it would require third-party software/modules to work, and if so,
 what systems those are available for.
 
 Since there are so many distributions that are based on Debian, and
 especially Canonical seems to have a little clout with manufacturers, I
 would suggest to them to investigate support for Debian-based systems.
 Not supporting it in this day and age would seem strange to me.
 
   There are many fates worse than becoming, for certain 
   of one's key systems, a RH customer. Even more so if 
   making money, or deliverables, is part of the job of 
   said key systems.
  
 It is not, and economy is definitely a key consideration, here.
  What's more, I am not asking the OS to support any particular
  hardware.  What I am asking - even if it were REd Hat - is whihc
  hardware is supported.  That really should not be that difficult a
  question.  (Yes, I understand why it is in fact a difficult question.)
 
 Yes, it is indeed a difficult question.
 
 This is just personal preference, but I would as far as possible avoid
 hardware that isn't supported by the Linux kernel itself, since that
 would leave me at the mercy of the manufacturer with regard to future
 support and updates.
 
   It boils down to the question How much of my time do 
   I want to waste looking for those hens' teeth, and, 
  
These aren't hen's teeth.  They are type O-Positive blood donors.
  I just need the bag labeled with the blood type so I know which one
  to choose.
  
   given what my time is worth,

Re: Perl scripts: line by line parsing vs accumulating (was: the correct way to read a big directory? Mutt?)

2015-05-22 Thread David Wright

Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net):
 [The context: *very basic* header validation of e-mail messages]
 
 On 2015-04-28 10:27:40 +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
  L'octidi 8 floréal, an CCXXIII, Vincent Lefevre a écrit :
   I don't understand the point. Accumulating in strings (which involves
   copies and possible reallocations) and doing a split is much slower
   than reading lines one by one and treating them separately.
  
  First: not necessarily, because once the header is loaded in a string, you
  can apply regexps to the whole header at once instead of using a loop. This
  may prove faster.
 
 I've finally tried this solution (i.e. accumulating, then apply
 regexp on the full strings) and it takes about 60% more time when
 the data are in the disk cache.

I can't quite understand Nicolas's sentence because I'm not sure
whether by the header and the whole header he means the several
lines of headers taken together.

However, in https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/04/msg01265.html
I was perhaps less ambiguous (point 2):

In which case, if you want to know how come mutt is so fast, take a
 look at the source. Just to mention one optimisation I would consider:
 slurp the directory and sort the entries by inode. Open the files in
 inode order.
 And another: it's probably faster to slurp bigger chunks of each file
 (with an intelligent guess of the best buffer size) and use a fast
 search for \nMessage-ID rather than reading and checking line by line.


 This is not surprising, IMHO, for
 the following reasons:
 
 First, as I've said, accumulating lines in a string may involve copies
 and reallocations because the string grows (I don't know whether there
 is a way to solve that without obfuscating the code).

By slurp, I meant for you to try reading the top of the file as a
single chunk using a read-a-load-of-bytes method rather than a
repetitive readline method.

In Python's terms (because I don't know the Perl ones) a call of read()

  class io.RawIOBase

  read(size=-1)

Read up to size bytes from the object and return them. As a
convenience, if size is unspecified or -1, readall() is
called. Otherwise, only one system call is ever made...

rather than readline()

  class io.IOBase

  readline(size=-1)

Read and return one line from the stream. If size is specified, at
most size bytes will be read.

 Then I don't think that in the particular case of header validation,
 there is much gain applying regexp's on the full header at once; the
 reason is that my regexp's use the end of line as a separator (things
 like /\n[^:\s]+\s/ and /^Message-ID:.../im). So, when I read the file
 line by line, I already do a part of the job of regexp matching.

But I would assume that regexp in languages like Perl/Python has code
far more optimised than reading files line by line. So you would
search for \nmessage-id:.*?\n (where .*? is non-greedy).

 And finally, for each test, the header has to be read several times.

I'm not sure why, without knowing the tests to apply (or did I miss
seeing them?).

 In my case, I don't need to deal with folded headers, except validating
 the format, which is very easy with a line-by-line parsing.

You did mention validating message-id and other headers and checking
for missing ones, but do your scripts throw all this work away and,
if so, why? For example, if you add your own distinctive Message-ID
header to any file that doesn't have one, then that's one test you
never have to repeat.

 I may have other scripts that need to deal with them, but in this case,
 I accumulate physical lines into a single logical one. AFAIK, this is
 what mail processors do (postfix header filtering, procmail...). But
 there is no need to accumulate the full header in a single string.

Why not think of it this way: the full header (ie all the header
lines of a message) *is* a single string: it's the beginning of the
file, terminated by \n\n. I wonder how much speed-up you could achieve
with a C function using strstr to find the end of the headers and
returning them as a single string.

Cheers,
David.


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2015-05-22 Thread Abc Silva

Re: Need SAS HBA for Debian Jessie

On Monday, May 18, 2015 at 3:10:05 PM UTC-5, Don Armstrong wrote:
 
 I personally am using an LSI SAS2008-based HBA with two HP MSA60
 enclosures; I then run standard mdraid on top of that:

  And there are ports for the management software in Jessie?

 If you have smaller numbers of drives, then a standard SATA HBA is
 probably good enough.

   Not so much.  Twenty-plus drives in external SFF-8088 enclosures.

 Obviously, this set up is not that quick.

   Well, quick is nice, and the existing controllers are managing more than 750 
MBps, but most of the work is across a single 1G Ethernet LAN.


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Re: diferença entre sh e ./

2015-05-22 Thread Listeiro 037


Olá.

sh é um link em /bin/sh. No Debiian aponta para /bin/dash.
Dash é uma implementação do Almqvist Shell (ash) para o Debian. É
shell diferente do Bash.

./ executa o script com shell do ambiente

Dash entende as coisas diferentes do que Bash entende. São como que
linguagens de scripts diferentes. 

Por isso é que há uma orientação prá se escrever scripts que funcionem
não apenas com bash ou zsh, mas com csh, ksh, dash e muitos outros. No
caso do if há dois comandos prá serem usados junto com ele chamado
expr e test.

Uma versão do seu script para Dash seria:

#!/bin/sh
for var in $(seq 100) ; do
if test $(expr $var % 2) -eq 0
then 
echo $var
fi ; 
done


Em Fri, 22 May 2015 23:04:25 -0300
Tiago Pigazao piga...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Boa noite
 
 Pessoal alguem sabe, qual é a diferença de se executar um shell
 script com sh ou com ./ ?
 
 estou com o seguinte cenário..
 
 tenho um script com permissão de execução ok , ao executar com sh
 ele não funciona (da problema na linha do if), agora se executar com
 ./  funciona ok... segue script abaixo :
 
 #!/bin/bash
 for var in $(seq 100) ; do
 if (( $var % 2 == 0 ))
 then
 echo $var
 fi ; done


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Re: diferença entre sh e ./

2015-05-22 Thread Tiago Pigazao

então independente do que for usado na execução sh ou ./ ele de certa forma
não vai considerar aquele sha-bang do inicio #!bin/bash ?

Em 22 de maio de 2015 23:34, Listeiro 037 listeiro_...@yahoo.com.br
escreveu:


 Olá.

 sh é um link em /bin/sh. No Debiian aponta para /bin/dash.
 Dash é uma implementação do Almqvist Shell (ash) para o Debian. É
 shell diferente do Bash.

 ./ executa o script com shell do ambiente

 Dash entende as coisas diferentes do que Bash entende. São como que
 linguagens de scripts diferentes.

 Por isso é que há uma orientação prá se escrever scripts que funcionem
 não apenas com bash ou zsh, mas com csh, ksh, dash e muitos outros. No
 caso do if há dois comandos prá serem usados junto com ele chamado
 expr e test.

 Uma versão do seu script para Dash seria:

 #!/bin/sh
 for var in $(seq 100) ; do
 if test $(expr $var % 2) -eq 0
 then
 echo $var
 fi ;
 done


 Em Fri, 22 May 2015 23:04:25 -0300
 Tiago Pigazao piga...@gmail.com escreveu:

  Boa noite
 
  Pessoal alguem sabe, qual é a diferença de se executar um shell
  script com sh ou com ./ ?
 
  estou com o seguinte cenário..
 
  tenho um script com permissão de execução ok , ao executar com sh
  ele não funciona (da problema na linha do if), agora se executar com
  ./  funciona ok... segue script abaixo :
 
  #!/bin/bash
  for var in $(seq 100) ; do
  if (( $var % 2 == 0 ))
  then
  echo $var
  fi ; done


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Re: sistema operacional Debian linux

2015-05-22 Thread Adriano Rafael Gomes

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 10:00:26PM -0300, Felipe Soares wrote:
   ola , sei que é um sistema de suporte do Debian , mais estou fazendo um
 trabalho sobre oque é e como funcional esse mesmo sistema , como usa-lo e
 quais suas vantagens
  poderia me ajudar dizendo algo sobre o sistema Debian linux? qualquer
 informação sera bem vinda

Felipe, tente:
https://www.debian.org/intro/about.pt.html
https://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian.pt.html


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2015-05-22 Thread Abc Silva

Dear Sir/ Madam,

I downloaded Debian 8  from your web site..when tried to install i got a
message  can't find win 32 loader .ini..please advice me how to install
Debian on my computer..

Best Regards..

Dulan

Re: diferença entre sh e ./

2015-05-22 Thread Tiago Pigazao

ou melhor ele só ira considerar o a shell bash especificada no script ,
executando com o ./

Em 23 de maio de 2015 00:04, Tiago Pigazao piga...@gmail.com escreveu:

 então independente do que for usado na execução sh ou ./ ele de certa
 forma não vai considerar aquele sha-bang do inicio #!bin/bash ?

 Em 22 de maio de 2015 23:34, Listeiro 037 listeiro_...@yahoo.com.br
 escreveu:


 Olá.

 sh é um link em /bin/sh. No Debiian aponta para /bin/dash.
 Dash é uma implementação do Almqvist Shell (ash) para o Debian. É
 shell diferente do Bash.

 ./ executa o script com shell do ambiente

 Dash entende as coisas diferentes do que Bash entende. São como que
 linguagens de scripts diferentes.

 Por isso é que há uma orientação prá se escrever scripts que funcionem
 não apenas com bash ou zsh, mas com csh, ksh, dash e muitos outros. No
 caso do if há dois comandos prá serem usados junto com ele chamado
 expr e test.

 Uma versão do seu script para Dash seria:

 #!/bin/sh
 for var in $(seq 100) ; do
 if test $(expr $var % 2) -eq 0
 then
 echo $var
 fi ;
 done


 Em Fri, 22 May 2015 23:04:25 -0300
 Tiago Pigazao piga...@gmail.com escreveu:

  Boa noite
 
  Pessoal alguem sabe, qual é a diferença de se executar um shell
  script com sh ou com ./ ?
 
  estou com o seguinte cenário..
 
  tenho um script com permissão de execução ok , ao executar com sh
  ele não funciona (da problema na linha do if), agora se executar com
  ./  funciona ok... segue script abaixo :
 
  #!/bin/bash
  for var in $(seq 100) ; do
  if (( $var % 2 == 0 ))
  then
  echo $var
  fi ; done


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Re: diferença entre sh e ./

2015-05-22 Thread Fabio A. De Muzio Tobich

Boa noite,

Não estou totalmente certo, talvez alguém com mais conhecimento possa me 
corrigir, mas minha interpretação é a seguinte:

Quando você executa com sh, na verdade você está executando o sh e passando o 
seu script como parâmetro, neste caso o sh vai ser o interpretador, e no caso 
do Debian, o sh é na verdade o dash.

Quando você executa com ./ você está executando diretamente o script, e o 
interpretador é chamado na primeira linha do script, nesse caso o bash.

Então no primeiro caso quem está interpretando o seu script é o dash e no 
segundo é o bash, são duas shells diferentes e o que funciona em uma pode não 
funcionar, necessariamente, na outra.

Se, em vez de usar sh para executar seu script, você usar bash, ele vai 
funcionar. Assim como se você alterar a primeira linha do seu script para: 
#!/bin/dash ou #!/bin/sh e executar ele com ./ você vai obter o mesmo erro que 
está obtendo agora executando com sh.

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 11:04:25PM, Tiago Pigazao wrote:

 Boa noite
 
 Pessoal alguem sabe, qual é a diferença de se executar um shell script com
 sh ou com ./ ?
 
 estou com o seguinte cenário..
 
 tenho um script com permissão de execução ok , ao executar com sh ele não
 funciona (da problema na linha do if), agora se executar com ./  funciona
 ok... segue script abaixo :
 
 #!/bin/bash
 for var in $(seq 100) ; do
 if (( $var % 2 == 0 ))
 then
 echo $var
 fi ; done

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sistema operacional Debian linux

2015-05-22 Thread Felipe Soares

  ola , sei que é um sistema de suporte do Debian , mais estou fazendo um
trabalho sobre oque é e como funcional esse mesmo sistema , como usa-lo e
quais suas vantagens
 poderia me ajudar dizendo algo sobre o sistema Debian linux? qualquer
informação sera bem vinda

agradeço sua atenção desde já.





ass: Felipe
Curso : Redes de Computadores

Re: Need SAS HBA for Debian Jessie

On Monday, May 18, 2015 at 5:40:05 AM UTC-5, Petter Adsen wrote:
 On Sat, 16 May 2015 05:38:30 -0700 (PDT)
 I am sorry if this is a dumb question,

   Not at all.

 but if this is a home system,
 why can you not go for more commodity hardware? While I do recognize
 there are differences between SAS and SATA, do you really need SAS in
 a home setting - for a media library? SATA may be the simplest/cheapest
 solution, to my way of thinking.

   Not so much beyond about 10 drives.  That said, this system was eSATA based 
for a long time, but it has been having issues.  In my efforts to troubleshoot 
the problems, I converted my 20 drive chassis from eSATA Port Multipliers to 
multi-lane.  It has solved some of the issues, but not all.

 I would assume there are far more people running Linux with a SATA
 system than there are for SAS, so it should be more widely tested, and
 information would not be so scarce. Granted, this might be less true
 when you are talking about high-end RAID controllers, but still.

   True enough,but many of the issues seem to have been related to the two 
systems being eSATA.

 Here I agree with you. OTOH, if this had been for a enterprise
 setting, a suggestion to check out RH - with their level of commercial
 support - would not necessarily be a bad one.

   I wouldn't say it was bad, anyway, just not in step with the reasons one 
would be posting in this forum in the first place.


 Again, I agree. In this scenario, I would find a couple of controllers
 that would seem to suit my purpose, and contact the manufacturers
 directly with very specific questions.

   That is much easier said than done.  Even companies who have people manning 
the phones often have people in those positions who are clueless beyong what is 
already on the web.

 One of these questions would be
 whether or not the controller is supported by the Linux kernel itself,

   The kernel is not so much the issue.  Most cards are supported out of the 
box by the kernel on Jessie.  It is the management software that is usually a 
problem.  If they don't want to bother to support all sorts of different 
distros, then they should provide open source management software.

 This is just personal preference, but I would as far as possible avoid
 hardware that isn't supported by the Linux kernel itself, since that
 would leave me at the mercy of the manufacturer with regard to future
 support and updates.

  I agree I don't want hardware not supported in the kernel (or vice-versa, if 
you like), but that is only part of the problem, typically the smaller part.


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Problems getting started with QtQuick and QtCreator

2015-05-22 Thread Jarle Aase

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Hi,

I have put aside some time this weekend to see what I can do with Qt
Quick.

However, when I try to compile the skeleton hello world application
Qt Creator makes when I create a new project, I get this error:


08:01:47: Running steps for project QtQuick...
08:01:47: Starting: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmake
/home/jgaa/src/tests/QtQuick/QtQuick.pro -r -spec linux-clang
CONFIG+=debug CONFIG+=declarative_debug CONFIG+=qml_debug
Project ERROR: Unknown module(s) in QT: quick qml
08:01:47: The process /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmake exited
with code 3.
Error while building/deploying project QtQuick (kit: Desktop)
When executing step qmake
08:01:47: Elapsed time: 00:00.


/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmake --version
QMake version 3.0
Using Qt version 5.3.2 in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu


I don't know if this is a bug in the packaging or something that is
broken on my system.

I'm using debian testing, updated today. I tried removing and
reinstall qtcreator and the qtquick packages, but  the problem persists.

Any help would be appreciated.

Jarle
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Re: no more sound cards

2015-05-22 Thread Pierre Frenkiel


On Fri, 22 May 2015, Sven Arvidsson wrote:



Not sure what is going on here, but you seem to have oss sound, instead
of alsa?


  hi Sven,
  I had both oss and alsa packages installed, and apparently not broken.
  I tried aptitude reinstall for alsa packages, but this gave nothing.
  I could at last get a fix doing:
1/ purge all oss packages
2/ purge all alsa packages (alsa-base alsa-utils libsox-fmt-alsa osspd-alsa}
3/ install these packages
   After that, all sound cards reappeared. I don't know whether step 1/ was
   useful or not.
   I don't tag this thread as Solved as I still don't know how this problem
   occured. I had unattended upgrade enabled, but I thought it only deals
   with security issues, and I found nothing looking at all logs for the night 
of
   May 21 to 22.

   Thanks for your help.

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discuss debian 's attitude to ppa

2015-05-22 Thread mudongliang

Yesterday I installed the LMDE(Linux Mint based Debian Jessie),which is 
a rolling release issued by Linux Mint!
The installation is of no question! But when I want to install 
openyoudao from ppa , it returns me not support ppa!


So I search it ! Although I don't find some real proof , but I can see 
one thing ! Maybe debian will not support ppa ,
because in the talk of Neil McGovern, he says some weakness of ppa! And 
from the development of Debian ,

ppa's development seems to be not able to ensure its stablity!

What's your opinion?
mudongliang


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Re: Problems getting started with QtQuick and QtCreator

2015-05-22 Thread Jarle Aase

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Hi all,

Sorry for the noise.

I started trying more of the suggestions in different forum threads
regarding this problem, and

   aptitude install qtdeclarative5-dev

solved it.

Jarle

On 05/23/2015 08:15 AM, Jarle Aase wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have put aside some time this weekend to see what I can do with
 Qt Quick.
 
 However, when I try to compile the skeleton hello world
 application Qt Creator makes when I create a new project, I get
 this error:
 
 
 08:01:47: Running steps for project QtQuick... 08:01:47: Starting:
 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmake 
 /home/jgaa/src/tests/QtQuick/QtQuick.pro -r -spec linux-clang 
 CONFIG+=debug CONFIG+=declarative_debug CONFIG+=qml_debug Project
 ERROR: Unknown module(s) in QT: quick qml 08:01:47: The process
 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmake exited with code 3. Error
 while building/deploying project QtQuick (kit: Desktop) When
 executing step qmake 08:01:47: Elapsed time: 00:00.
 
 
 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/bin/qmake --version QMake version
 3.0 Using Qt version 5.3.2 in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
 
 
 I don't know if this is a bug in the packaging or something that
 is broken on my system.
 
 I'm using debian testing, updated today. I tried removing and 
 reinstall qtcreator and the qtquick packages, but  the problem
 persists.
 
 Any help would be appreciated.
 
 Jarle
 
 
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Re: Boot menu entries

2015-05-22 Thread Floris


Op Fri, 22 May 2015 03:00:36 +0200 schreef Emil Payne ehspa...@yahoo.com:

My boot menu has the following entries (plus recovery mode), I always  
default to entry 0. What are the others and how do I delete unwanted  
ones?


'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64'
'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-rt-amd64'
'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-amd64'
'Debian GNU/Linux, with Xen 4.1-amd64 and Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64'
'Debian GNU/Linux, with Xen 4.1-amd64 and Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-rt-amd64'
'Debian GNU/Linux, with Xen 4.1-amd64 and Linux 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-amd64'




remove the corresponding kernel package and the menu items will be removed

for example:
$ apt-get purge linux-image-3.2.0-0-bpo.4-amd64

success,

floris


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Re: donnons.org et iceweasel

2015-05-22 Thread Bernard Schoenacker

Le Fri, 22 May 2015 12:21:37 +0200,
andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :

 On Friday 22 May 2015 11:13:24 Klaus Becker wrote:
  ce matin, je ne peux plus aller avec Iceweasel sur donnons.org, je
  reçois :
 
 Avec Iceweasel 31.7 :
 
 Échec de la connexion sécurisée
 Une erreur est survenue pendant une connexion à donnons.org. 
 Le serveur OCSP n'a pas de statut pour le certificat. (Code
 d'erreur : sec_error_ocsp_unknown_cert)
 
 Konqueror est très permissif et n'est pas un navigateur,
 mais plutôt un gestionnaire de fichiers.
 
 Les certificats auto-signés sont à proscrire,
 sauf pour des sites perso.
 
 André
 

bonjour,


j'ai le même problème avec iceweasel 40

slt
bernard

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Re: donnons.org et iceweasel

2015-05-22 Thread hého

Klaus Becker a écrit le 22/05/2015 11:13 :
 ce matin, je ne peux plus aller avec Iceweasel sur donnons.org, je 
 reçois :
 Cette connexion n'est pas certifiée
 [...]
 Que dois-je faire ?
 

Bonjour,

ici iceweasel 38.0-1~bpo70+1 de mozilla.debian.net
sur wheezy à jour et j'ai le même problème avec https://donnons.org/

Par contre ( et je ne dis pas qu'il faille le faire ) dans:

préférences -- avancé

en décochant:
interroger le répondeur ocsp pour confirmer la validité de vos certificat

ça affiche de nouveau le site.


Cordialement
hého

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Re: donnons.org et iceweasel

Le 22/05/2015 12:50, hého a écrit :
 Klaus Becker a écrit le 22/05/2015 11:13 :
 ce matin, je ne peux plus aller avec Iceweasel sur donnons.org, je reçois
 : Cette connexion n'est pas certifiée [...] Que dois-je faire ?
 
 
 Bonjour,
 
 ici iceweasel 38.0-1~bpo70+1 de mozilla.debian.net sur wheezy à jour et
 j'ai le même problème avec https://donnons.org/
 
 Par contre ( et je ne dis pas qu'il faille le faire ) dans:
 
 préférences -- avancé
 
 en décochant: interroger le répondeur ocsp pour confirmer la validité de
 vos certificat
 
 ça affiche de nouveau le site.

Chez moi (Firefox 38.0.1) cette case est cochée et pourtant j'accède
maintenant normalement à ce site...


 
 
 Cordialement hého

PS : ravi par la fortune ci-après ! Le hasard ;-)

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Re: donnons.org et iceweasel

2015-05-22 Thread Christophe


Hello,

Le 22/05/2015 11:13, Klaus Becker a écrit :

Bonjour,

ce matin, je ne peux plus aller avec Iceweasel sur donnons.org, je
reçois :

Cette connexion n'est pas certifiée

donnons.org utilise un certificat de sécurité invalide.

Le certificat n'est pas sûr car l'autorité délivrant le certificat est
inconnue.

(Code d'erreur : sec_error_unknown_issuer)



Je n'ai pas la même chose que vous : (FF 36.0.1 / Ubuntu)

Une erreur est survenue pendant une connexion à donnons.org. Le 
certificat du pair a été révoqué.

(Code d'erreur : sec_error_revoked_certificate)

Si ce dernier a été réellement révoqué par l’autorité de certification, 
c'est qu'il y a un sérieux soucis avec le certificat ; Auquel cas, ça ne 
me semble pas anormal que Firefox refuse la connexion en paramétrage par 
défaut.


Je pense donc que c'est côté serveur qu'il y a un binz ...

@+
Christophe.


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Re: HELP- very slow download speeds

2015-05-22 Thread Darac Marjal

On Thu, 21 May 2015 16:58:45 -0700
Gary Roach gary719_li...@verizon.net wrote:

 I have 4 systems that have squeeze, wheezy and jessie on them. I
 haven't updated one in a long time. They all suffer from extremely
 slow downloads. I have a 50M verizon fiber optic line to a M1424WR
 router / switch. I also have fios and my phone line on the same
 system. When I start a download, it starts at 50M for the first few
 seconds and then drops to 500K to 100K range. All 4 system react the
 same. Two are the same hardware but one is older hardware and one is
 a dual boot Toshiba laptop.
 
 Verizon insists their lines are OK. The have change out the router,
 the interface unit outside and have bypassed the coax with there own. 
 Everything checks out. I have run their speed checker while
 downloading. The speed checker shows 50M (about) and the download
 speed is simultaneously around 250K. Everything is hardwired - no
 wifi hookups. Further, my NetFlix may hickup once in a while but
 generally works ok. No problems with our phone service.
 
 When this started, I was getting lots of packet loss errors with
 ping -f -U address but that has stopped today. The slow downloads
 still persists
 
 I'm at a loss as to what is wrong. Any ideas will be sincerely 
 appreciated. I think Verizon is about to dump me on my head and wash 
 their hands of the whole problem. Thus leaving me with a dialup speed 
 expensive connection.
 
 Gary R
 

What are your upload speeds like? If they're ridiculously slow compared
to your download speed, then you may find that you're not able to ACK
packets quickly enough to sustain a steady 50M download (I can't
immediately work out at what sort of level this will happen, but I'm
sure there's someone more versed in networking who can tell you).

Another consideration is to look at the router's statistics page for
line errors. You might find that packets are being retransmitted a lot,
which will lower the effective rate of transmission (though, if it's to
the point of constraining 50M down to 250K, then there's something
wrong with the line).

Finally, don't rule out the possibility that your ISP is throttling
you. While you may be synced at 50M and may be able to transfer at that
for short periods (and thus, the ISP can rightly claim that you have a
50M connection), they could conceivably throttle your connection in the
longer term.

 


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no more sound cards

2015-05-22 Thread Pierre Frenkiel


hi everybody,
This morning, I found that my sound cards disapeared from my Jessie desktop.
lspci | grep -i audio  gives:

   00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio 
Controller (rev 02)
   01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0fbc (rev a1)
   05:00.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)

but aplay -l:
   aplay: device_list:268: no soundcards found...
I also noticed that /proc/asounnd also disapeared.
the  snd-cs46xt command restored it but
cat /proc/asound/cards still gives:
--- no soundcards ---
I can't find what could happen last night to explain that.

(it's not a hardware problem, as the sound works perfectly on Windows)

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Re: vlc reproduz mas com problemas

2015-05-22 Thread Rodolfo

Eu vi em um site que um cara teve que criar um link simbólico para esse
libvdpau_i965.so, que na verdade tem outro nome, ele teve que criar um link
para onde o programa que ele usava(não lembro o nome) pudesse ler
corretamente, teoricamente essa lib já existe no seu sistema, o problema é
como o vlc busca ele, talvez seja isso.

Em 21 de maio de 2015 21:11, Fred Maranhão fred.maran...@gmail.com
escreveu:

 Em 21 de maio de 2015 21:47, Fred Maranhão fred.maran...@gmail.com
 escreveu:
  2015-05-20 23:19 GMT-03:00 Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com:
  Vocês tentou instalar esses pacotes ?
 
 
 https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libvdpausearchon=namessuite=testingsection=all
 
  instalei agora.
 
  $ apt-cache search libvdpau | cut -f 1 -d' ' | xargs dpkg -l
  Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
  |
 Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
  |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
  ||/ Nome   Versão Arquitectura   Descrição
 
 +++-==-==-==-=
  ii  libvdpau-dev:amd64 1.1-1  amd64  Video Decode and
  Presentation API for Uni
  un  libvdpau-doc   nenhuma  nenhuma  (nenhuma
  descrição disponível)
  ii  libvdpau-va-gl1:am 0.3.4-2amd64  VDPAU driver with
  OpenGL/VAAPI backend
  ii  libvdpau1:amd641.1-1  amd64  Video Decode and
  Presentation API for Uni
  ii  vdpauinfo  1.0-1  amd64  Video Decode and
  Presentation API for Uni
  dpkg-query: não foram encontrados pacotes coincidindo com libvdpau1-dbg
 
  mas mudou o erro. agora a imagem aparece mais normal, mas aparecem uns
  quadradinhos na imagem, principalmente em volta das partes em
  movimento. e o video todo está como se estivesse com pixels grandes.
  no youtube os vídeos estão normais.
 
  executando o vlc da linha de comando ainda aparece o erro:
 
  $ vlc marcondes-novembro-dva-01.mp4
  VLC media player 2.2.1 Terry Pratchett (Weatherwax) (revision
 2.2.1-0-ga425c42)
  [02319118] core libvlc: Executando o VLC com a interface
  padrão. Use 'cvlc' para usar o VLC sem interface.
  [7fe188cd2398] vdpau_avcodec generic error: unsupported codec 13
  or profile -1
  Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_i965.so: cannot open shared
  object file: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado

 agora o erro mudou. instalei o libavcodec-extra e agora o vídeo só
 parece estar com pixels grandes. mas os quadradinhos aleatórios em
 volta das partes em movimento sumiram.

 e o erro que aparece na linha comando também mudou

 $ vlc ~/marcondes-novembro-dva-01.mp4
 VLC media player 2.2.1 Terry Pratchett (Weatherwax) (revision
 2.2.1-0-ga425c42)
 [009e6118] core libvlc: Executando o VLC com a interface
 padrão. Use 'cvlc' para usar o VLC sem interface.
 [7f3f94cd3b98] vdpau_avcodec generic error: unsupported codec 13
 or profile -1
 Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_i965.so: cannot open shared
 object file: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado

 já instalei o pacote referente a este i965:

 $ dpkg -l '*i965*'Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
 |
 Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
 |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
 ||/ Nome   Versão   Arquitectura Descrição

 +++-==---=
 ii  i965-va-driver 1.5.1-2  amd64VAAPI driver for Intel G45 
 HD G

 mas o vídeo com pixels grandes persiste.


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Re: donnons.org et iceweasel

2015-05-22 Thread Jean-Jacques Doti


Salut,

Le 22/05/2015 13:03, Christophe a écrit :

Hello,

Le 22/05/2015 11:13, Klaus Becker a écrit :

Bonjour,

ce matin, je ne peux plus aller avec Iceweasel sur donnons.org, je
reçois :

Cette connexion n'est pas certifiée

donnons.org utilise un certificat de sécurité invalide.

Le certificat n'est pas sûr car l'autorité délivrant le certificat est
inconnue.

(Code d'erreur : sec_error_unknown_issuer)



Je n'ai pas la même chose que vous : (FF 36.0.1 / Ubuntu)

Une erreur est survenue pendant une connexion à donnons.org. Le 
certificat du pair a été révoqué.

(Code d'erreur : sec_error_revoked_certificate)

Si ce dernier a été réellement révoqué par l’autorité de 
certification, c'est qu'il y a un sérieux soucis avec le certificat ; 
Auquel cas, ça ne me semble pas anormal que Firefox refuse la 
connexion en paramétrage par défaut.


Je pense donc que c'est côté serveur qu'il y a un binz ...

@+
Christophe.


Il me semble aussi que c'est bien du côté du serveur qu'il y a (avait) 
un soucis. Le certificat qui est actuellement utilisé n'est pas le même 
que ce matin.
Le certificat actuel a été émis le 21/05/2015 (hier) alors que le 
précédent était valide du 09/05/2014 au 08/05/2016.
En fait, le certificat précédent (n° de série 022C7D) a été révoqué le 
22/05/2015 à 06h38 GMT ⇒ au delà de cette heure, le certificat ne devait 
plus être accepté et le message affiché par Firefox était suffisamment 
explicite à cet égard.


A+
Jean-Jacques


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Re: donnons.org et iceweasel

2015-05-22 Thread Klaus Becker

Le vendredi 22 mai 2015, 11:15:39 Bernardo a écrit :

 Le 22/05/2015 11:13, Klaus Becker a écrit :
  Bonjour,
  
  ce matin, je ne peux plus aller avec Iceweasel sur donnons.org, je
  reçois
  
  
  Cette connexion n'est pas certifiée
  
  Vous avez demandé à Firefox de se connecter de manière sécurisée à
  donnons.org, mais nous ne pouvons pas confirmer que votre
  connexion est sécurisée.
  
  Normalement, lorsque vous essayez de vous connecter de manière
  sécurisée, les sites présentent une identification certifiée pour
  prouver que vous vous trouvez à la bonne adresse. Cependant,
  l'identité de ce site ne peut pas être vérifiée. Que dois-je
  faire ?
  
  Si vous vous connectez habituellement à ce site sans problème,
  cette erreur peut signifier que quelqu'un essaie d'usurper
  l'identité de ce site et vous ne devriez pas continuer.
  
  Ce site a recours à HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) pour
  indiquer à Firefox de n'établir qu'une connexion sécurisée. Ainsi
  il n'est pas possible d'ajouter d'exception pour ce certificat.
  
  donnons.org utilise un certificat de sécurité invalide.
  
  Le certificat n'est pas sûr car l'autorité délivrant le certificat
  est inconnue.
  
  (Code d'erreur : sec_error_unknown_issuer)
  
  Or avec konqueror, il n'y a pas de problème.
  
  Je tiens à visiter le site avec Iceweasel parce que j'utilise un
  plugin Mozilla pour être averti presqu'en temps réel, certains
  dons.
  
  En réalité j'utilise Firefox, mais cela ne fait aucune différence
  à mon avis. J'ai le même problème avec Firefox Nightly.
  
  librement
  
  Klaus

 Bonjour,
 
 connexion sans problème avec Firefox 38.0.1

J'utilise la même version de FF, bizarre.

J'ai mis ta réponse en bas comme c'est l'usage ici.

Klaus

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Re: donnons.org et iceweasel

Et maintenant ça refonctionne !!!

Pour info, l'autorité de certification est StartCom Ltd

Le 22/05/2015 12:08, Bernardo a écrit :
 Re,
 
 tout à l'heure ça fonctionnait (et je n'avait rien en cache) et maintenant,
 ça marche plus !
 
 Soucis du côté du serveur ?
 
 Le 22/05/2015 11:21, Klaus Becker a écrit :
 Le vendredi 22 mai 2015, 11:15:39 Bernardo a écrit :
 
 Le 22/05/2015 11:13, Klaus Becker a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 
 ce matin, je ne peux plus aller avec Iceweasel sur donnons.org, je 
 reçois
 
 
 Cette connexion n'est pas certifiée
 
 Vous avez demandé à Firefox de se connecter de manière sécurisée à 
 donnons.org, mais nous ne pouvons pas confirmer que votre connexion
 est sécurisée.
 
 Normalement, lorsque vous essayez de vous connecter de manière 
 sécurisée, les sites présentent une identification certifiée pour 
 prouver que vous vous trouvez à la bonne adresse. Cependant,
 l'identité de ce site ne peut pas être vérifiée. Que dois-je faire ?
 
 Si vous vous connectez habituellement à ce site sans problème, cette 
 erreur peut signifier que quelqu'un essaie d'usurper l'identité de
 ce site et vous ne devriez pas continuer.
 
 Ce site a recours à HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) pour
 indiquer à Firefox de n'établir qu'une connexion sécurisée. Ainsi il
 n'est pas possible d'ajouter d'exception pour ce certificat.
 
 donnons.org utilise un certificat de sécurité invalide.
 
 Le certificat n'est pas sûr car l'autorité délivrant le certificat
 est inconnue.
 
 (Code d'erreur : sec_error_unknown_issuer)
 
 Or avec konqueror, il n'y a pas de problème.
 
 Je tiens à visiter le site avec Iceweasel parce que j'utilise un
 plugin Mozilla pour être averti presqu'en temps réel, certains dons.
 
 En réalité j'utilise Firefox, mais cela ne fait aucune différence à
 mon avis. J'ai le même problème avec Firefox Nightly.
 
 librement
 
 Klaus
 
 Bonjour,
 
 connexion sans problème avec Firefox 38.0.1
 
 J'utilise la même version de FF, bizarre.
 
 J'ai mis ta réponse en bas comme c'est l'usage ici.
 
 Klaus
 
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Re: donnons.org et iceweasel

2015-05-22 Thread mireero


On 05/22/2015 12:10 PM, Bernardo wrote:

Re,

tout à l'heure ça fonctionnait (et je n'avait rien en cache) et maintenant, ça
marche plus !

Soucis du côté du serveur ?

Le 22/05/2015 11:21, Klaus Becker a écrit :

Le vendredi 22 mai 2015, 11:15:39 Bernardo a écrit :


Le 22/05/2015 11:13, Klaus Becker a écrit :

Bonjour,


Pareil, ça fonctionne pas ici.
Curieux, je pensais que firefox permettait d'ajouter une exception.


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Re: donnons.org et iceweasel

2015-05-22 Thread andre_debian

On Friday 22 May 2015 12:29:47 Bernardo wrote:
 Et maintenant ça refonctionne !!!

https://donnons.org/

Maintenant le site fonctionne sans problèmes.

 Pour info, l'autorité de certification est StartCom Ltd :

C'est alors un certificat officiel bien admis par les navigateurs,
peut-être que le certificat a atteint sa date de validité,
et que les admins du site l'ont entretemps reconduit...

André

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Res: Convert PDF to GIF

2015-05-22 Thread Carlos Donizete

  Já experimentou usar o GIMP? Nele consegue converter pra outros formatos.EnviadodomeusmartphoneBlackBerryZ10.De: Manoel Pedro de AraújoEnviada: quinta-feira, 21 de maio de 2015 23:56Para: DUPAssunto: Convert PDF to GIFOlá, estou precisando de uma ajuda.Preciso converter um arquivo PDF em GIF. Tenho um ImageMackporem este não abre ficar sempre carregando. O que eu devo fazer para ele abri?-- Manoel




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make oldconfig bzImage fails under GCC-4.9.2 on debian-8.0

2015-05-22 Thread Dhiraj Bhor

Hi,
I am compiling the linux kernel 2.6.32 with my custom config file as input.
I am using gcc-4.9.2 on Debian-8.0.
I am getting following error.

build@bd:~/2.6.32/linux-2.6.32-358.el6$ make oldconfig bzImage
scripts/kconfig/conf -o arch/x86/Kconfig
#
# configuration written to .config
#
scripts/kconfig/conf -s arch/x86/Kconfig
  CHK include/linux/version.h
  CHK include/linux/utsrelease.h
  SYMLINK include/asm - include/asm-x86
  CC  kernel/bounds.s
  GEN include/linux/bounds.h
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/asm-offsets.s
  GEN include/asm/asm-offsets.h
  CALLscripts/checksyscalls.sh
  CC  scripts/mod/empty.o
  MKELF   scripts/mod/elfconfig.h
  HOSTCC  scripts/mod/file2alias.o
  HOSTCC  scripts/mod/modpost.o
  HOSTCC  scripts/mod/sumversion.o
  HOSTLD  scripts/mod/modpost
  CC  init/main.o
  CHK include/linux/compile.h
  CC  init/version.o
  CC  init/do_mounts.o
  CC  init/do_mounts_rd.o
  CC  init/do_mounts_initrd.o
  LD  init/mounts.o
  CC  init/initramfs.o
  CC  init/calibrate.o
  LD  init/built-in.o
  GEN usr/initramfs_data.cpio
  AS  usr/initramfs_data.o
  LD  usr/built-in.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/process_32.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/signal.o
  AS  arch/x86/kernel/entry_32.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/traps.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/irq.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/irq_32.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/dumpstack_32.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/time.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/ioport.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/ldt.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/dumpstack.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/setup.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/x86_init.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/i8259.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/irqinit.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/irq_work.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/probe_roms.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/sys_i386_32.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/i386_ksyms_32.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/bootflag.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/e820.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/pci-dma.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/quirks.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/i8237.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/topology.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/kdebugfs.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/alternative.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/i8253.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/pci-nommu.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/tsc.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/io_delay.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/rtc.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/resource.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/trampoline.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/process.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/i387.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/xsave.o
  CC  arch/x86/kernel/ptrace.o
arch/x86/kernel/ptrace.c:1245:17: error: conflicting types for
‘syscall_trace_enter’
 asmregparm long syscall_trace_enter(struct pt_regs *regs)
 ^
In file included from
/home/build/2.6.32/linux-2.6.32-358.el6/arch/x86/include/asm/vm86.h:130:0,
 from
/home/build/2.6.32/linux-2.6.32-358.el6/arch/x86/include/asm/processor.h:10,
 from
/home/build/2.6.32/linux-2.6.32-358.el6/arch/x86/include/asm/thread_info.h:22,
 from include/linux/thread_info.h:56,
 from include/linux/preempt.h:9,
 from include/linux/spinlock.h:50,
 from include/linux/seqlock.h:29,
 from include/linux/time.h:8,
 from include/linux/timex.h:56,
 from include/linux/sched.h:56,
 from arch/x86/kernel/ptrace.c:8:
/home/build/2.6.32/linux-2.6.32-358.el6/arch/x86/include/asm/ptrace.h:146:13:
note: previous declaration of ‘syscall_trace_enter’ was here
 extern long syscall_trace_enter(struct pt_regs *);
 ^
arch/x86/kernel/ptrace.c:1290:17: error: conflicting types for
‘syscall_trace_leave’
 asmregparm void syscall_trace_leave(struct pt_regs *regs)
 ^
In file included from
/home/build/2.6.32/linux-2.6.32-358.el6/arch/x86/include/asm/vm86.h:130:0,
 from
/home/build/2.6.32/linux-2.6.32-358.el6/arch/x86/include/asm/processor.h:10,
 from
/home/build/2.6.32/linux-2.6.32-358.el6/arch/x86/include/asm/thread_info.h:22,
 from include/linux/thread_info.h:56,
 from include/linux/preempt.h:9,
 from include/linux/spinlock.h:50,
 from include/linux/seqlock.h:29,
 from include/linux/time.h:8,
 from include/linux/timex.h:56,
 from include/linux/sched.h:56,
 from arch/x86/kernel/ptrace.c:8:
/home/build/2.6.32/linux-2.6.32-358.el6/arch/x86/include/asm/ptrace.h:147:13:
note: previous declaration of ‘syscall_trace_leave’ was here
 extern void syscall_trace_leave(struct pt_regs *);
 ^
scripts/Makefile.build:229: recipe for target 'arch/x86/kernel/ptrace.o' failed
make[3]: *** [arch/x86/kernel/ptrace.o] Error 1
scripts/Makefile.build:365: recipe for target 'arch/x86/kernel' failed
make[2]: *** [arch/x86/kernel] Error 2
Makefile:915: recipe for target 'arch/x86' failed
make[1]: *** [arch/x86] Error 2
Makefile:464:

Re: donnons.org et iceweasel

Re,

tout à l'heure ça fonctionnait (et je n'avait rien en cache) et maintenant, ça
marche plus !

Soucis du côté du serveur ?

Le 22/05/2015 11:21, Klaus Becker a écrit :
 Le vendredi 22 mai 2015, 11:15:39 Bernardo a écrit :
 
 Le 22/05/2015 11:13, Klaus Becker a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 
 ce matin, je ne peux plus aller avec Iceweasel sur donnons.org, je 
 reçois
 
 
 Cette connexion n'est pas certifiée
 
 Vous avez demandé à Firefox de se connecter de manière sécurisée à 
 donnons.org, mais nous ne pouvons pas confirmer que votre connexion est
 sécurisée.
 
 Normalement, lorsque vous essayez de vous connecter de manière 
 sécurisée, les sites présentent une identification certifiée pour 
 prouver que vous vous trouvez à la bonne adresse. Cependant, l'identité
 de ce site ne peut pas être vérifiée. Que dois-je faire ?
 
 Si vous vous connectez habituellement à ce site sans problème, cette
 erreur peut signifier que quelqu'un essaie d'usurper l'identité de ce
 site et vous ne devriez pas continuer.
 
 Ce site a recours à HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) pour indiquer
 à Firefox de n'établir qu'une connexion sécurisée. Ainsi il n'est pas
 possible d'ajouter d'exception pour ce certificat.
 
 donnons.org utilise un certificat de sécurité invalide.
 
 Le certificat n'est pas sûr car l'autorité délivrant le certificat est
 inconnue.
 
 (Code d'erreur : sec_error_unknown_issuer)
 
 Or avec konqueror, il n'y a pas de problème.
 
 Je tiens à visiter le site avec Iceweasel parce que j'utilise un plugin
 Mozilla pour être averti presqu'en temps réel, certains dons.
 
 En réalité j'utilise Firefox, mais cela ne fait aucune différence à mon
 avis. J'ai le même problème avec Firefox Nightly.
 
 librement
 
 Klaus
 
 Bonjour,
 
 connexion sans problème avec Firefox 38.0.1
 
 J'utilise la même version de FF, bizarre.
 
 J'ai mis ta réponse en bas comme c'est l'usage ici.
 
 Klaus
 
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Quelle est la différence entre un psychotique et un névrotique ?
Le psychotique est celui qui sait que 2+2 font 5 et qui s'en fout.
Le névrotique est celui qui sait que 2+2 font 4 et ça le rend malade.
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Re: Configurar inicio y parada de postgres 8.3

2015-05-22 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia

- Original Message - 
From: Calabaza calali...@gmail.com

To: debian-user-spanish debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: Configurar inicio y parada de postgres 8.3

El día 21 de mayo de 2015, 15:05, Ismael L. Donis Garcia
sli...@citricos.co.cu escribió:
- Original Message - From: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: Configurar inicio y parada de postgres 8.3

El Wed, 20 May 2015 14:39:21 -0400, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:

Hace un tiempo estoy tratando de instalar postgres 8.3, lo he logrado
pero no me inicia cuando inicio sección y no logro hecharlo a andar de
forma automática.

¿Al final instalaste el paquete preparado para Debian? Si no lo hiciste
tendrás que hacer malabares para iniciarlo.

Si instalé archivos compilados para debian. Más especificamente la versión
postgresql-8.3_8.3.23-1.pgdg+1_i386.deb

Si ponga la siguiente instrucción en consola si inicia:

su - postgres -c /var/lib/postgresql/8.3/bin/pg_ctl start -l
/mnt/datos/postgres/8.3/data/serverlog -D /mnt/datos/postgres/8.3/data

Pero quiero que inicie el servicio sin haber iniciado la sección del
usuario y no he logrado hacerlo.

He modificado el siguiente script pero no logro hacerlo andar.

(...)

Busca un script de inicio para Debian. O revisa el manual para saber 
cómo

integrarlo (apartado systemd integration):

https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Apt/FAQ

Ahí no veo nada para la versión 8.3

Saludos,

--
Camaleón

El problema me lo da al intentar cambiar el lugar del almacén de datos de
/var/lib/postgresql/8.3/main para otro origen.

Lo necesito porque necesito crear un volumen solo para los datos el cual
monté en /mnt/datos

Cuando configuro el archivo postgresql.conf para que la carpeta de datos 
sea

/mnt/datos/postgres/8.3/main deja de funcionar.

¿que errores específicos lanza?

Traté de engañar al postgres borrando la carpeta main de
/var/lib/postgresql/8.3/ y crear ahí un enlace con nombre main a la 
carpeta
/mnt/datos/postgres/8.3/main y ni aun así el postgres me funciono. Como 
que

no le da la gana arrancar si no es el lugar por defecto.

Lo jodedor es que si lo mando a correr a mano si se inicia el servicio 
del

postgres pero así no me sirve porque cada ves que se encienda el servidor
porque se halla apagado por alguna causa hay que mandar a correr el
servicio.

Saludos Reiterados

| ISMAEL |

No sale error alguno, pero tu pregunta me ha dado una luz de como y donde 
buscar.

He detectado que es un problema de permisos, pero ahora nose como conocer 
los permisos y cual es el propietario de las carpetas desde consola ya que 
el servidor lo estoy tratando de montar sin entorno gráfico.

Vere que puedo hacer ahora que ya se por donde mirar. No se si alguien de la 
lista se ha tropezado con este problema? El tratar de cambiar el destino de 
la carpeta de datos del postgres para otro lugar que no es el 
predeterminado.

Saludos Reiterados

| ISMAEL |

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Re: Configurar inicio y parada de postgres 8.3

2015-05-22 Thread fernando sainz

El día 22 de mayo de 2015, 15:00, Ismael L. Donis Garcia
sli...@citricos.co.cu escribió:
- Original Message - From: Calabaza calali...@gmail.com
To: debian-user-spanish debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 6:24 PM

Subject: Re: Configurar inicio y parada de postgres 8.3

El día 21 de mayo de 2015, 15:05, Ismael L. Donis Garcia
sli...@citricos.co.cu escribió:
- Original Message - From: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: Configurar inicio y parada de postgres 8.3

El Wed, 20 May 2015 14:39:21 -0400, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:

Hace un tiempo estoy tratando de instalar postgres 8.3, lo he logrado
pero no me inicia cuando inicio sección y no logro hecharlo a andar de
forma automática.

¿Al final instalaste el paquete preparado para Debian? Si no lo hiciste
tendrás que hacer malabares para iniciarlo.

Si instalé archivos compilados para debian. Más especificamente la versión
postgresql-8.3_8.3.23-1.pgdg+1_i386.deb

Si ponga la siguiente instrucción en consola si inicia:

su - postgres -c /var/lib/postgresql/8.3/bin/pg_ctl start -l
/mnt/datos/postgres/8.3/data/serverlog -D /mnt/datos/postgres/8.3/data

Pero quiero que inicie el servicio sin haber iniciado la sección del
usuario y no he logrado hacerlo.

He modificado el siguiente script pero no logro hacerlo andar.

(...)

Busca un script de inicio para Debian. O revisa el manual para saber
cómo
integrarlo (apartado systemd integration):

https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Apt/FAQ

Ahí no veo nada para la versión 8.3

Saludos,

--
Camaleón

El problema me lo da al intentar cambiar el lugar del almacén de datos de
/var/lib/postgresql/8.3/main para otro origen.

Lo necesito porque necesito crear un volumen solo para los datos el cual
monté en /mnt/datos

Cuando configuro el archivo postgresql.conf para que la carpeta de datos
sea
/mnt/datos/postgres/8.3/main deja de funcionar.

¿que errores específicos lanza?

Traté de engañar al postgres borrando la carpeta main de
/var/lib/postgresql/8.3/ y crear ahí un enlace con nombre main a la
carpeta
/mnt/datos/postgres/8.3/main y ni aun así el postgres me funciono. Como
que
no le da la gana arrancar si no es el lugar por defecto.

Lo jodedor es que si lo mando a correr a mano si se inicia el servicio
del
postgres pero así no me sirve porque cada ves que se encienda el servidor
porque se halla apagado por alguna causa hay que mandar a correr el
servicio.

Saludos Reiterados

| ISMAEL |

No sale error alguno, pero tu pregunta me ha dado una luz de como y donde
buscar.

He detectado que es un problema de permisos, pero ahora nose como conocer
los permisos y cual es el propietario de las carpetas desde consola ya que
el servidor lo estoy tratando de montar sin entorno gráfico.

Vere que puedo hacer ahora que ya se por donde mirar. No se si alguien de la
lista se ha tropezado con este problema? El tratar de cambiar el destino de
la carpeta de datos del postgres para otro lugar que no es el
predeterminado.

Saludos Reiterados

| ISMAEL |

¿ De verdad dices en serio que no sabes hacer un ls -la ?

S2.

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Re: Configurar inicio y parada de postgres 8.3

El Thu, 21 May 2015 15:05:40 -0400, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:

 El Wed, 20 May 2015 14:39:21 -0400, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:

 Hace un tiempo estoy tratando de instalar postgres 8.3, lo he logrado
 pero no me inicia cuando inicio sección y no logro hecharlo a andar de
 forma automática.

 ¿Al final instalaste el paquete preparado para Debian? Si no lo hiciste
 tendrás que hacer malabares para iniciarlo.
 
 Si instalé archivos compilados para debian. Más especificamente la
 versión postgresql-8.3_8.3.23-1.pgdg+1_i386.deb

Ese nombre de archivo apunta al repositorio de PostgreSQL por lo que 
entiendo que has instalado el paquete desde ahí con todas las 
dependencias.

 Si ponga la siguiente instrucción en consola si inicia:

 su - postgres -c /var/lib/postgresql/8.3/bin/pg_ctl start -l
 /mnt/datos/postgres/8.3/data/serverlog -D
 /mnt/datos/postgres/8.3/data

 Pero quiero que inicie el servicio sin haber iniciado la sección del
 usuario y no he logrado hacerlo.

 He modificado el siguiente script pero no logro hacerlo andar.

 (...)

 Busca un script de inicio para Debian. O revisa el manual para saber
 cómo integrarlo (apartado systemd integration):

 https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Apt/FAQ


 Ahí no veo nada para la versión 8.3

No es una página de ayuda para una versión específica sino en general, 
para los paquetes instalados desde ese repositorio. ¿Qué versión de Debian 
tienes instalada?

 El problema me lo da al intentar cambiar el lugar del almacén de datos
 de /var/lib/postgresql/8.3/main para otro origen.
 
 Lo necesito porque necesito crear un volumen solo para los datos el cual
 monté en /mnt/datos
 
 Cuando configuro el archivo postgresql.conf para que la carpeta de datos
 sea /mnt/datos/postgres/8.3/main deja de funcionar.

Bueno, pues entonces mejor empieza por el principio e inicia el servicio 
de postgresql con la configuración predeterminada y si funciona bien, 
sigue con tus pruebas, revisa la documentación¹ para ver cómo configurar 
el directorio para almacén de las bdd y consulta los registros de error 
que te dé al intentar iniciar el servicio con la configuración nueva.

¹http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.3/static/runtime-config-file-
locations.html

Saludos,

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Re: Convert PDF to GIF

2015-05-22 Thread Leandro Henrique Stein

Manoel, mas pq vc não usa via linha de comando o convet do imageMagick?

Algo como:

convert -verbose -density 150 -trim test.pdf -quality 100 -sharpen 0x1.0
test.jpg

Já usei em um projeto que precisava dar um preview da primeira página do
pdf num site, fazia via script a geração das imagens e nunca tive problema.

Tenta aí!


Leandro Henrique Stein
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Desculpar-se é um sinal de fraqueza. Exceto entre amigos - Leroy Jethro
Gibbs

Em 22 de maio de 2015 06:56, Carlos Donizete corin...@riseup.net escreveu:

 Já experimentou usar o GIMP? Nele consegue converter pra outros formatos.


 Enviado do meu smartphone BlackBerry Z10.
   *De: *Manoel Pedro de Araújo
 *Enviada: *quinta-feira, 21 de maio de 2015 23:56
 *Para: *DUP
 *Assunto: *Convert PDF to GIF

 Olá, estou  precisando de uma ajuda.

 Preciso converter um arquivo PDF em GIF. Tenho um ImageMack
 porem este não abre ficar sempre carregando. O que eu devo fazer para ele
 abri?



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Re: Debian 8.0 tampoco me arranca a mi

El Thu, 21 May 2015 19:27:27 +0200, CZOMCA escribió:

 El jue, 21-05-2015 a las 13:34 +, Camaleón escribió:
 
 
  Si con el comando systemctl isolate..., lo que se intenta es arrancar
  el modo grafico desde modo texto, resulta que, aunque no lo he dicho
  explicitamente, al arrancar desde recovery mode llego hasta el final,
  o sea, en modo grafico con gnome-classic funcionando sin problema.
 
 ¿Mand? :-o
 
 Entonces el problema lo tiene gnome-shell, para variar.
 
  Por eso, al ponerlo en el terminal, no dice ni hace nada.
 
 No corras tanto :-), si eres capaz de llegar a iniciar con
 gnome-classic,
 accede hasta ahí y reinicia la sesión pero esta vez elige la sesión
 predeterminada con gnome-shell, a ver qué escupe.
 
 
 No voy a tener acceso al ordenador que da los problemas en un par de
 dias, por lo que me gustaria concretar un poco mas la prueba.
 
 Se trata de llegar a la caratula de selección de usuarios, cambiar
 gnome-classic por predeterminado y entrar. Puede ocurrir:
 
 1. Que se descontrole: Te contaré lo que ocurre y si puedo hacer algo
 para retomar el control. ¿Algo mas?

Si, si es posible me interesa los siguientes datos:

1/ El archivo de registro completo que tienes en /var/log/syslog, 
el .greeter.0 que está dentro del directorio /var/log/gdm3 y por si 
acaso, el /var/log/Xorg.0.log.

2/ Si al iniciar la sesión aparece en la pantalla texto, el que sea, una 
foto.

 2. Que vaya todo bien. ¿Quieres la copia de algún archivo o que haga
 alguna prueba?

Si va todo bien (sería extraño) ya pensamos qué hacer :-)

Saludos,

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Re: [OT] 2 dhcp server on same lan

2015-05-22 Thread Eike Lantzsch

On Thursday 21 May 2015 15:33:09 Bob Proulx wrote:
 Pol Hallen wrote:
  On same network 192.168.1.0/24 I can put 2 AP with each one own dhcp
  server? (obviously with different range but on same network).
  
  router IP 192.168.1.1
  AP1 IP 192.168.1.2 (dhcp 192.168.100-149)
  AP2 IP 192.168.1.3 (dhcp 192.168.150-199)
 
 What is the purpose for doing such a configuration?  All answers
 depend upon the purpose because it all depends.
 
 For example the above does NOT provide for high availability.  And I
 can't think of any other reason for it.  And even then it depends upon
 the implementation of the dhcp server.  I would think that the little
 blue consumer boxes would not work sufficiently but again it depends.
 
 Bob

DHCP failover on a small network does not seem to be worth the effort, except 
for training purposes. Exactly that is why this thread was very informative 
for me. Just for kicks (training) I was trying for a while to set up two dhcp 
servers on my network. One OpenBSD on a router and the other on Debian arm 
isc-dhcp-server on a cubietruck.
One sends sync messages and the other connects to ip-ports - duh!
The philosophy of OpenBSD dhcp seems to be really wide area networks not being 
on the same premises and isc-dhcp seems to be better fitted for LAN.
Now I know that my endeavours are futile. The synchronization between two 
OpenBSD dhcp servers and the failover isc-dhcp-server are essentially different 
and do not work together. Either 2 * isc-dhcp-server (which is available for 
OpenBSD as a package) or 2 * OpenBSD dhcp servers (which does not exist for 
the armv7l cubietruck) = need another machine or maquinita.

So as for the OP having only small commercial SoHo routers there is no route 
to success either.

Your posts made me dig deeper into the matter and I learned a lot.
Thanks to Pol for bringing the subject up.
Thanks to Darac, Erwan and Bob for giving advice.

Cheers
Eike


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Re: donnons.org et iceweasel

2015-05-22 Thread hého

hého a écrit le 22/05/2015 12:50 :
 Klaus Becker a écrit le 22/05/2015 11:13 :
 ce matin, je ne peux plus aller avec Iceweasel sur donnons.org, je 
 reçois :
 Cette connexion n'est pas certifiée
 [...]
 Que dois-je faire ?

 
 ici iceweasel 38.0-1~bpo70+1 de mozilla.debian.net
 sur wheezy à jour et j'ai le même problème avec https://donnons.org/
 Par contre ( et je ne dis pas qu'il faille le faire ) dans:
 préférences -- avancé
 en décochant:
 interroger le répondeur ocsp pour confirmer la validité de vos certificat
 ça affiche de nouveau le site.
 
Re,

et maintenant, comme d'autres participants au fil,
ça affiche le site https://donnons.org/ même quand l'option
 interroger le répondeur ocsp pour confirmer la validité de vos certificat
est cochée...

Cordialement
hého

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Fw: Configurar inicio y parada de postgres 8.3

2015-05-22 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia

Reenvío a la lista. Se me fue al privado.

- Original Message - 
From: Ismael L. Donis Garcia sli...@citricos.co.cu

To: fernando sainz fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: Configurar inicio y parada de postgres 8.3

- Original Message - 

From: fernando sainz fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com
To: debian-user-spanish debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2015 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: Configurar inicio y parada de postgres 8.3

¿ De verdad dices en serio que no sabes hacer un ls -la  ?

S2.

Más que en serio, soy bastante nuevo en Linux y no soy mago. Por lo que
conozco solo los comandos que más uso, se que hay 1 millón que desconozco.

Ese ni lo había usado, pero bueno ya había buscado y lo conocía antes de tu
mensaje. Muchas gracias de todos modos.

Pero lo que necesito es ver como es que puedo echar a andar el postgres en
la otra carpeta.

Para eso voy a empezar revisando los permisos de ambas carpeta una a una y
archivo a archivo.

Saludos Cordiales

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Re: OFF-TOPIC - Migración de mysql a otro mysql

El Thu, 21 May 2015 19:45:54 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió:

 Buenas, tengo tarea bastante pesada y es pasar todas las bases de datos
 de un servidor mysql que nos quedamos sin espacio a otro mysql más
 actualizado. Las bases de datos en total ocupan bastantes gigas,
 como 250 GB.
 
 Tengo configurado LVM, pero queremos migrar a otras máquinas más
 potentes y con software actualizado de mysql y bajo Openvz en Debian.
 
 Mi pregunta es la siguiente, cuál creéis que es la mejor forma de pasar
 las bbdd y más rápida, hacerlo por una pipe por ssh directamente, con
 mysqldump -u root -p bbdd | ssh r...@maquina.example.com mysql -u root
 -p bbdd o hacerlo con un mysqldump guardando el fichero en un disco
 duro usb externo pinchado,
 guardar cada bbdd.sql y luego pinchar el disco usb a la nueva máquina
 mysql e importar?
 
 Más rápida sería por ssh ya que lo haces on-time pero sería la más
 consistente?
 
 Qué me aconsejáis?

Sólo una sugerencia. 

Quizá sería conveniente pasar primero esos datos al servidor de destino 
(como prefieras, por ftp, etc...) y una vez que estén físicamente el 
servidor proceder con la importación de los datos. Vamos, evitar hacerlo 
en un único paso (volcado+traspaso+importación) y hacerlo mejor de manera 
secuencial (1º volcado local → 2ª traspaso de datos [ftp/ssh] → 3º 
importación)

Saludos,

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Coisa estranha com apt-get update/upgrade

2015-05-22 Thread Listeiro 037


Saudações.

Aconteceu uma coisa bastante estranha.

Rodei o apt-get update e apt-get upgrade prá atualizar o sistema. Isso
é banal.

Depois de muito tempo fui conferir e vi que esqueci de pressionar o
'S' prá atualizar (usar opção -y prá automatizar é meio Win prá mim).
Precisava só atualizar o chromium e o ntfs3. Normal.

Por causa disso rodei ele de novo e passado um tempo esqueci de apertar
o 'S'. Desta vez veio uma lista de coisas que o sistema manteria sem
atualizar e outras que atualizaria como o LibreOffice, o xorg-server
pro meu/minha chipset/placa de vídeo e mais umas coisas de python.

Dei de novo os dois comandos prá ver ser mudava e o aviso de
atualização do xorg, do LibreOffice e dos pythons sumiu, ficando apenas
a atualização do chromium e do ntfs3.

A dúvida é se essa coisa de um momento oferecer atualizações X e Y e
depois cancelar a atualização X antes de fazê-la pode acontecer. Isso
pode acontecer no projeto? E quem atualizou os pacotes vai ter que
fazer downgrade forçado?


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Re: Re: donnons.org et iceweasel

2015-05-22 Thread Michel Nakache


hello,

pour moi aussi, c'est ok, jessie et iceweasel 38.0.1

Michel

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problema al instalar hp laserjet 1020 en debian jessie

2015-05-22 Thread Billy Yeffry Fernández Rodríguez

Efectivamente, tengo problemas al instalarla.

En si los drivers oficiales no funcionan, ni los gutenprint.

E seguido el siguiente tutorial:
https://wiki.debian.org/Instalar_HP_LaserJet_1020

pero cada vez que trato de instalar el paquete foomatic-filters, parece que
no es compatible con el cups-filters, asi que si lo instalo, me borra el
cups y sus dependencias completamente. Aun asi, logro compilar el driver e
instalarlo, y luego nuevamente instalo cups, efectivamente el driver nuevo
esta en la lista, pero tampoco me funciona.

A ver si me sugieren que hacer.

Re: NAS con WD MyCloud

2015-05-22 Thread Gerardo Diez García

Re envío a la lista. Se debió escapar al privado.
El 22/05/15 17:22, Juan escribió:
 El 22/05/2015 a las 12:02, Gerardo Diez García escribió:
 
  No sé ni qué opciones maneja esa máquina ni tú las dices, así que hago
  unas cuantas suposiciones:
  Supongo que la máquina puede servir archivos mediante NFS. Lo que tienes
  que hacer es exportar cada carpeta bajo los permisos que consideres.
  Una vez exportadas las carpetas las montas bien mediante fstab, bien
  mediante un script en el inicio de sesión.
  Si no soy más concreto es porque la información que buscas está a un
  salto en tu buscador preferido (sí, también en castellano), y la verdad
  hay gente en la lista que se gana la vida con estos pequeños ajustes y
  como tú has dicho  como está en situación de poder tener esos gestos,
  lo hizo  me parece justo exigirte o un poco de esfuerzo por tu parte o
  que pagues a un profesional.
  
  
 Mirá campeón... agradezco tu respuesta. Sinceramente en castellano no
 lo encontré, seguiré buscando.
 
 El que está en situación de poder tener esos gestos es mi hermano, no
 yo, a mi me gusta hacer las cosas por mi mismo. Y justamente, lo que
 consulté/pedí a la lista fue la info para hacerlo yo, no el script, ni
 las líneas de fstab, ni las líneas del /etc/exports, ni que me den nada
 resuelto, solo que si tienen a mano la información para hacerlo, me la
 faciliten, ya que no la he logrado encontrar.
 
 Respuestas como la tuya no ayudan ni al que pregunta, ni a la lista, ni
 al GNU/Linux, ya que esto es lo que espanta a los usuarios nuevos.
 Respuestas con burlas, con altanería, diciendo está a un salto de tu
 buscador, cuando sinceramente, busqué varias veces en estos días y no
 lo encuentro. Puse varios tutoriales en el traductor de google y quedan
 confusos. En fin le metí voluntad al asunto y como no lo logré busqué un
 poco de solidaridad, pero veo que quizás no fue el lugar correcto.
 
 Te aclaro que uso linux desde RedHat 5.2, comenzé en 1999, tengo varios
 aparatejos armados y funcionando correctamente sin nunca haber estudiado
 formalmente, por eso solo pido ayuda en casos puntuales, cuando me
 atranco con algo y REPITO no pido que lo hagan por mi, sino que me
 recomienden que leer.
 
 Gracias
Mira campeón,
es una lista específica de Debian. Tú haces una búsqueda para un
escenario con distintas distribuciones. Estupendo. Busca en una lista de
Linux general.
Si empezaste hace tanto tiempo me sorprende que no te hayan dado un
contestón así antes. Un saludo


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Re: OFF-TOPIC - Migración de mysql a otro mysql

2015-05-22 Thread Maykel Franco

El vie, 22 de mayo de 2015 16:04, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 El Thu, 21 May 2015 19:45:54 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió:

  Buenas, tengo tarea bastante pesada y es pasar todas las bases de datos
  de un servidor mysql que nos quedamos sin espacio a otro mysql más
  actualizado. Las bases de datos en total ocupan bastantes gigas,
  como 250 GB.
 
  Tengo configurado LVM, pero queremos migrar a otras máquinas más
  potentes y con software actualizado de mysql y bajo Openvz en Debian.
 
  Mi pregunta es la siguiente, cuál creéis que es la mejor forma de pasar
  las bbdd y más rápida, hacerlo por una pipe por ssh directamente, con
  mysqldump -u root -p bbdd | ssh r...@maquina.example.com mysql -u root
  -p bbdd o hacerlo con un mysqldump guardando el fichero en un disco
  duro usb externo pinchado,
  guardar cada bbdd.sql y luego pinchar el disco usb a la nueva máquina
  mysql e importar?
 
  Más rápida sería por ssh ya que lo haces on-time pero sería la más
  consistente?
 
  Qué me aconsejáis?

 Sólo una sugerencia.

 Quizá sería conveniente pasar primero esos datos al servidor de destino
 (como prefieras, por ftp, etc...) y una vez que estén físicamente el
 servidor proceder con la importación de los datos. Vamos, evitar hacerlo
 en un único paso (volcado+traspaso+importación) y hacerlo mejor de manera
 secuencial (1º volcado local → 2ª traspaso de datos [ftp/ssh] → 3º
 importación)

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 El problema es el tiempo que tardas...son mas pasos pero es lo que
comente, a lo mejor es mas consistente y fiable no?

Re: problema al instalar hp laserjet 1020 en debian jessie

El Fri, 22 May 2015 16:17:45 +0200, Billy Yeffry Fernández Rodríguez
escribió:

(ese html...)

 Efectivamente, tengo problemas al instalarla.
 
 En si los drivers oficiales no funcionan, ni los gutenprint.
 
 E seguido el siguiente tutorial:
 https://wiki.debian.org/Instalar_HP_LaserJet_1020

Por aquí¹ recomiendan el driver foo2zjs-z1.

 pero cada vez que trato de instalar el paquete foomatic-filters, parece
 que no es compatible con el cups-filters, asi que si lo instalo, me
 borra el cups y sus dependencias completamente. 

Manda la salida completa del mensaje que recibes cuando intentas instalar 
ese paquete pero quizá sólo necesites tener instalado uno de los dos (si 
tienes CUPS, cups-filter).

 Aun asi, logro compilar el driver e instalarlo, y luego nuevamente
 instalo cups, efectivamente el driver nuevo esta en la lista, pero
 tampoco me funciona.
 
 A ver si me sugieren que hacer.

Son cosas distintas y necesitas ambas (instalación del controlador y los 
filtros) para que la impresora pueda funcionar con CUPS. 

De todas formas, como parece que se ha instalado bien, mira a ver si no 
aparece como detenida en CUPS, algunas veces si dan error al imprimir 
la política de CUPS es dejarlas paradas y hay que iniciarlas.

¹http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-LaserJet_1020

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Re: Consulta Llave Hardware

2015-05-22 Thread fernando sainz

El día 22 de mayo de 2015, 16:17, sebastian Oldani
sebastianold...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hola gente. Quiero hacerles una consulta.

 Hay empresas que fabriacan unas llaves USB que corroboran si estas
 usando un determinado software original.

 Desde el software se consulta a la llave una especie de código, se
 hace una comprobación y si todo esta OK, arranca el software.

 Yo pregunto, no hay forma de hacer eso mismo con un Pendrive común? A
 alguien se le ocurre una alternativa?

 Saludos!


Esos cacharros se basaban en la dificultad de copiar la llave.
En muchos casos los hackers fueron capaces de emularlas o eliminar la
parte del programa que validaba al usuario.

Cualquier cosa que pongas en un pendrive, es susceptible de ser copiada.

Hoy en día creo que las licencias se basan exigir una conexión a
internet para validar la clave, algunas permiten el uso sin conexión
durante un tiempo limitado, cosa que a su vez las hace vulnerables.


S2.


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Re: NAS con WD MyCloud

2015-05-22 Thread Gerardo Diez García

El 22/05/15 16:51, Juan escribió:
 Buen día. Me regalaron un WD MyCloud de 4 tb (es una historia larga,
 encargué un Disco Externo y mi hermano, muy amablemente me compró esto y
 me lo regaló porque le parecía mejor, y como está en situación de poder
 tener esos gestos, lo hizo).
 
 El tema es que yo lo quiero usar bajo Linux (Debian y Xubuntu) y no
 logro encontrar documentación certera sobre como configurarlo como una
 unidad de red, bajo nfs de manera permanente (en /etc/fstab) que esté en
 español y sea entendible.
 Hay referencia en inglés, pero se me complica un tanto entenderlo. Por
 eso les consulto si alguno tiene experiencia en el tema para poder
 ponerlo en marcha.
 
 Lo que quiero hacer es que las maquinas de mi casa accedan todas al
 directorio público y cada una a un directorio personal.
 
 Desde ya gracias por la info que me puedan facilitar.
 
 Juan
 
 PD: Aclaro, ya habilité ssh, accedo como root (esto es así, por lo que
 entendí no hay otra opción), puedo montar los directorios manualmente,
 pero me falta poder hacerlo permanente y tener las dos opciones, la
 parte publica y la parte privada de cada usuario.
 
 
No sé ni qué opciones maneja esa máquina ni tú las dices, así que hago
unas cuantas suposiciones:
Supongo que la máquina puede servir archivos mediante NFS. Lo que tienes
que hacer es exportar cada carpeta bajo los permisos que consideres.
Una vez exportadas las carpetas las montas bien mediante fstab, bien
mediante un script en el inicio de sesión.
Si no soy más concreto es porque la información que buscas está a un
salto en tu buscador preferido (sí, también en castellano), y la verdad
hay gente en la lista que se gana la vida con estos pequeños ajustes y
como tú has dicho  como está en situación de poder tener esos gestos,
lo hizo  me parece justo exigirte o un poco de esfuerzo por tu parte o
que pagues a un profesional.


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[OT] Generar Reportes/Documentación

Hola,

Alguien conoce algún generador de reportes para presentar
informes/Documentacion a jefes, llámese de seguridad, de cambios de
ambientes, de versiones, bugs, etc.
básicamente lo venia haciendo con pandoc + markdown y creaba un html y
finalmente lo exportaba a PDF.
Sinceramente estoy buscando alguna alternativa menos engorrosa. Si
alguien utiliza algo así y me tira una idea estaría genial.

@camaleon: no necesito que me devuelvas una respuesta con una búsqueda
google, no me interesa esas respuestas. Estoy preguntando a quienes
utilicen estas cosas.


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desactivar el modo grafico en debian jessie

2015-05-22 Thread Billy Yeffry Fernández Rodríguez

se que se podria desinstalar gdm y ya esta. Pero existia un viejo metodo de
entrar en el rc correspondiente que sube el sistema y renombrar el S03gdm
por K03gdm y con eso no subia. Ahora bien en jessie no me funciona, y probe
haciendolo uno por uno en cada rc. Cual es el runlevel por default? y como
puedo en ese caso desactivarlo? recuerdo que en debian lenny era el rc2.

Re: Consulta Llave Hardware

2015-05-22 Thread sebastian Oldani

El día 22 de mayo de 2015, 11:29, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Fri, 22 May 2015 11:17:04 -0300, sebastian Oldani escribió:

 Hola gente. Quiero hacerles una consulta.

 Hay empresas que fabriacan unas llaves USB que corroboran si estas
 usando un determinado software original.

 Desde el software se consulta a la llave una especie de código, se hace
 una comprobación y si todo esta OK, arranca el software.

 Yo pregunto, no hay forma de hacer eso mismo con un Pendrive común? A
 alguien se le ocurre una alternativa?

 El artículo de Wikipedia¹ explica un poco el funcionamiento y parece ser
 que sí se pueden usar llaves convencionales. Ahora bien, tras haber usado
 ese tipo de sistema (LPT y USB) a nivel de usuario te aseguro que son un
 auténtico dolor de muelas :-/

 ¹http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_protection_dongle

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Si entiendo lo que decis, esto me consultaron un día y me quedo la
duda si se podia o no hacer con un pendrive común. (No me estoy
refiriendo a copiar un archivo en el pendrive)

En una oportunidad logre leer el código de serie de una memoria SD y
me imagine que de esta forma se podria realizar. Pero al parecer
algunas memorias si permiten leer ese código y otras no, y con un
pendrive no probé nunca todavia.

Y consulté aca por si a alguien se le ocurria otra forma de hacer esto.

Gracias por las respuestas
Saludos!


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NAS con WD MyCloud

2015-05-22 Thread Juan

Buen día. Me regalaron un WD MyCloud de 4 tb (es una historia larga,
encargué un Disco Externo y mi hermano, muy amablemente me compró esto y
me lo regaló porque le parecía mejor, y como está en situación de poder
tener esos gestos, lo hizo).

El tema es que yo lo quiero usar bajo Linux (Debian y Xubuntu) y no
logro encontrar documentación certera sobre como configurarlo como una
unidad de red, bajo nfs de manera permanente (en /etc/fstab) que esté en
español y sea entendible.
Hay referencia en inglés, pero se me complica un tanto entenderlo. Por
eso les consulto si alguno tiene experiencia en el tema para poder
ponerlo en marcha.

Lo que quiero hacer es que las maquinas de mi casa accedan todas al
directorio público y cada una a un directorio personal.

Desde ya gracias por la info que me puedan facilitar.

Juan

PD: Aclaro, ya habilité ssh, accedo como root (esto es así, por lo que
entendí no hay otra opción), puedo montar los directorios manualmente,
pero me falta poder hacerlo permanente y tener las dos opciones, la
parte publica y la parte privada de cada usuario.


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Re: desactivar el modo grafico en debian jessie

El Fri, 22 May 2015 16:26:23 +0200, Billy Yeffry Fernández Rodríguez
escribió:

(ese html...)

 se que se podria desinstalar gdm y ya esta. Pero existia un viejo metodo
 de entrar en el rc correspondiente que sube el sistema y renombrar el
 S03gdm por K03gdm y con eso no subia. Ahora bien en jessie no me
 funciona, y probe haciendolo uno por uno en cada rc. Cual es el runlevel
 por default? y como puedo en ese caso desactivarlo? recuerdo que en
 debian lenny era el rc2.

Salvo que le hayas dicho lo contrario, Jessie instala systemd, así que no 
hay niveles de ejecución como antaño. Tendrás que tirar de alguna chuleta 
para saber cómo desactivar un servicio:

How to use systemd for system administration on Debian
http://xmodulo.com/use-systemd-system-administration-debian.html

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Consulta Llave Hardware

2015-05-22 Thread sebastian Oldani

Hola gente. Quiero hacerles una consulta.

Hay empresas que fabriacan unas llaves USB que corroboran si estas
usando un determinado software original.

Desde el software se consulta a la llave una especie de código, se
hace una comprobación y si todo esta OK, arranca el software.

Yo pregunto, no hay forma de hacer eso mismo con un Pendrive común? A
alguien se le ocurre una alternativa?

Saludos!


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Re: desactivar el modo grafico en debian jessie

2015-05-22 Thread fernando sainz

El día 22 de mayo de 2015, 16:26, Billy Yeffry Fernández Rodríguez
billy.yef...@gmail.com escribió:
 se que se podria desinstalar gdm y ya esta. Pero existia un viejo metodo de
 entrar en el rc correspondiente que sube el sistema y renombrar el S03gdm
 por K03gdm y con eso no subia. Ahora bien en jessie no me funciona, y probe
 haciendolo uno por uno en cada rc. Cual es el runlevel por default? y como
 puedo en ese caso desactivarlo? recuerdo que en debian lenny era el rc2.



Creo que eso ahora se hace con systemctl disable unit  unit sería el servicio.

S2.


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[OT]Consulta Llave Hardware

2015-05-22 Thread Gerardo Diez García

El 22/05/15 16:17, sebastian Oldani escribió:
 Hola gente. Quiero hacerles una consulta.
 
 Hay empresas que fabriacan unas llaves USB que corroboran si estas
 usando un determinado software original.
 
 Desde el software se consulta a la llave una especie de código, se
 hace una comprobación y si todo esta OK, arranca el software.
 
 Yo pregunto, no hay forma de hacer eso mismo con un Pendrive común? A
 alguien se le ocurre una alternativa?
 
 Saludos!
 
 
No sé si entiendo bien la pregunta. Entiendo que estás interesado en
comprobar si se está usando tu software con licencia (por cierto me
parece OT por eso lo marco así en el asunto) comprobando si hay una
llave original en un pendrive común.
Si es así siempre puedes incluir en tu código una función que compruebe
la existencia de unas llaves públicas gpg en el pendrive USB (de hecho
se podrían situar en cualquier lado), y que las comprueben contra la
clave privada que generes tú para ese cliente. Pero esto implica generar
una clave por cliente y tener un servidor 24/7 disponible para la
comprobación (y que el cliente tenga, y quiera usar, esa conexión)


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Re: Consulta Llave Hardware

El Fri, 22 May 2015 11:17:04 -0300, sebastian Oldani escribió:

 Hola gente. Quiero hacerles una consulta.
 
 Hay empresas que fabriacan unas llaves USB que corroboran si estas
 usando un determinado software original.
 
 Desde el software se consulta a la llave una especie de código, se hace
 una comprobación y si todo esta OK, arranca el software.
 
 Yo pregunto, no hay forma de hacer eso mismo con un Pendrive común? A
 alguien se le ocurre una alternativa?

El artículo de Wikipedia¹ explica un poco el funcionamiento y parece ser 
que sí se pueden usar llaves convencionales. Ahora bien, tras haber usado 
ese tipo de sistema (LPT y USB) a nivel de usuario te aseguro que son un 
auténtico dolor de muelas :-/

¹http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_protection_dongle

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Re: no more sound cards

2015-05-22 Thread Sven Arvidsson

On Fri, 2015-05-22 at 11:49 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
 hi everybody,
 This morning, I found that my sound cards disapeared from my Jessie desktop.
 lspci | grep -i audio  gives:
 
 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio 
 Controller (rev 02)
 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation Device 0fbc (rev a1)
 05:00.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 
 07)
 
 but aplay -l:
 aplay: device_list:268: no soundcards found...
 I also noticed that /proc/asounnd also disapeared.
 the  snd-cs46xt command restored it but
  cat /proc/asound/cards still gives:
  --- no soundcards ---
 I can't find what could happen last night to explain that.
 
 (it's not a hardware problem, as the sound works perfectly on Windows)

Are the sound modules loaded? I'm guessing snd_hda_intel for the Intel
stuff, and other snd_ for the rest of the hardware.

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Re: Consulta Llave Hardware

El Fri, 22 May 2015 11:50:50 -0300, sebastian Oldani escribió:

 El día 22 de mayo de 2015, 11:29, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 escribió:
 El Fri, 22 May 2015 11:17:04 -0300, sebastian Oldani escribió:

 Hola gente. Quiero hacerles una consulta.

 Hay empresas que fabriacan unas llaves USB que corroboran si estas
 usando un determinado software original.

 Desde el software se consulta a la llave una especie de código, se
 hace una comprobación y si todo esta OK, arranca el software.

 Yo pregunto, no hay forma de hacer eso mismo con un Pendrive común? A
 alguien se le ocurre una alternativa?

 El artículo de Wikipedia¹ explica un poco el funcionamiento y parece
 ser que sí se pueden usar llaves convencionales. Ahora bien, tras haber
 usado ese tipo de sistema (LPT y USB) a nivel de usuario te aseguro que
 son un auténtico dolor de muelas :-/

 ¹http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_protection_dongle

 Si entiendo lo que decis, esto me consultaron un día y me quedo la duda
 si se podia o no hacer con un pendrive común. (No me estoy refiriendo a
 copiar un archivo en el pendrive)
 
 En una oportunidad logre leer el código de serie de una memoria SD y me
 imagine que de esta forma se podria realizar. Pero al parecer algunas
 memorias si permiten leer ese código y otras no, y con un pendrive no
 probé nunca todavia.
 
 Y consulté aca por si a alguien se le ocurria otra forma de hacer esto.
 
 Gracias por las respuestas Saludos!

El uso (e inconvenientes) de las llaves convencionales está explicado en 
la sección Usage:

(...) Some software developers use traditional USB flash drives as 
software license dongles that contain hardware serial numbers in 
conjunction with the stored device ID strings, which are generally not 
easily changed by an end-user. A developer can also use the dongle to 
store user settings or even a complete portable version of the 
application. Not all flash drives are suitable for this use, as not all 
manufacturers install unique serial numbers into their devices. Although 
such medium security may deter a casual hacker, the lack of a processor 
core in the dongle to authenticate data, perform encryption/decryption, 
and execute inaccessible binary code makes such a passive dongle 
inappropriate for all but the lowest-priced software. A simpler and even 
less secure option is to use unpartitioned or unallocated storage in the 
dongle to store license data. Common USB flash drives are relatively 
inexpensive compared to dedicated security dongle devices, but reading 
and storing data in a flash drive are easy to intercept, alter, and 
bypass.

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Re: [OT] Generar Reportes/Documentación

Hola,

Vale, disfruta tu superioridad virtual en paz. Muchas gracias.

saludos

El 22/05/15 a las 12:52, Camaleón escribió:
 El Fri, 22 May 2015 12:41:32 -0300, Lacho escribió:
 
 @camaleon: no necesito que me devuelvas una respuesta con una búsqueda
 google, no me interesa esas respuestas. Estoy preguntando a quienes
 utilicen estas cosas.
 
 Tranquilo, que te meto en la lista negra ya mismo para que ni tú te 
 agobies ni yo pierda el tiempo ;-)
 
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Re: [OT] Generar Reportes/Documentación

Hola Billy,

conoces alguna alternativa a pandoc + markdown para generar reportes?
creo que es esa tu pregunta...disculpa si lo mal interprete.

saludos.


 
  El 22 de mayo de 2015, 11:41, Lacho marcoscapel...@gmail.com 
 mailto:marcoscapel...@gmail.com
  mailto:marcoscapel...@gmail.com
 mailto:marcoscapel...@gmail.com escribió:
 
  Hola,
 
  Alguien conoce algún generador de reportes para presentar
  informes/Documentacion a jefes, llámese de seguridad, de
 cambios de
  ambientes, de versiones, bugs, etc.
  básicamente lo venia haciendo con pandoc + markdown y creaba
 un html y
  finalmente lo exportaba a PDF.
  Sinceramente estoy buscando alguna alternativa menos engorrosa. Si
  alguien utiliza algo así y me tira una idea estaría genial.
 
  @camaleon: no necesito que me devuelvas una respuesta con una
 búsqueda
  google, no me interesa esas respuestas. Estoy preguntando a
 quienes
  utilicen estas cosas.
 
 
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Re: [OT] Generar Reportes/Documentación

2015-05-22 Thread Billy Yeffry Fernández Rodríguez

lo siento lider no conosco, ni se en si que es.

El 22 de mayo de 2015, 12:18, Lacho marcoscapel...@gmail.com escribió:

 Hola Billy,

 conoces alguna alternativa a pandoc + markdown para generar reportes?
 creo que es esa tu pregunta...disculpa si lo mal interprete.

 saludos.


  
   El 22 de mayo de 2015, 11:41, Lacho marcoscapel...@gmail.com
 mailto:marcoscapel...@gmail.com
   mailto:marcoscapel...@gmail.com
  mailto:marcoscapel...@gmail.com escribió:
  
   Hola,
  
   Alguien conoce algún generador de reportes para presentar
   informes/Documentacion a jefes, llámese de seguridad, de
  cambios de
   ambientes, de versiones, bugs, etc.
   básicamente lo venia haciendo con pandoc + markdown y creaba
  un html y
   finalmente lo exportaba a PDF.
   Sinceramente estoy buscando alguna alternativa menos
 engorrosa. Si
   alguien utiliza algo así y me tira una idea estaría genial.
  
   @camaleon: no necesito que me devuelvas una respuesta con una
  búsqueda
   google, no me interesa esas respuestas. Estoy preguntando a
  quienes
   utilicen estas cosas.
  
  
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Bug Report: QMMP issue - [Jessie with MATE] when caja opened, qmmp launches instead

2015-05-22 Thread jake . persona


Hi Guys

Very odd bug this. Caja opens fine without qmmp installed. But when qmmp 
is installed and you want to browse with caja, the qmmp player launches 
instead.


Where do I post this?

jake


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Bericht bij security updates

2015-05-22 Thread Paul van der Vlis

Hallo,

In het verleden gebruikte ik Gnome als desktop, maar de laatste tijd ook
een paar andere desktops. Vooral Cinnamon en XFCE.

Nu kom ik er door schade en schande achter dat deze geen melding geven
als er security updates zijn. Dit was ik wel gewend van Gnome.

Het is mogelijk de security updates automatisch te laten plaatsvinden,
maar sommige mensen vinden het toch echt het prettigst hierover een
melding te krijgen om daarna simpel de updates te installeren.

Meldingen krijg ik op zich wel, zowel in XFCE als en Cinnamon,
bijvoorbeeld als de accu bijna leeg is. Maar misschien heeft dat niets
met elkaar te maken.

Is er een pakket wat zorgt voor meldingen dat er security updates zijn,
en wat niet Gnome of KDE specifiek is?

Met vriendelijke groet,
Paul van der Vlis.


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Re: [OT] Generar Reportes/Documentación

El Fri, 22 May 2015 12:41:32 -0300, Lacho escribió:

 @camaleon: no necesito que me devuelvas una respuesta con una búsqueda
 google, no me interesa esas respuestas. Estoy preguntando a quienes
 utilicen estas cosas.

Tranquilo, que te meto en la lista negra ya mismo para que ni tú te 
agobies ni yo pierda el tiempo ;-)

Saludos,

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logjam attack and exim4

2015-05-22 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz

Hi,

there are already some help web sites around, e.g.:

Logjam: How Diffie-Hellman Fails in Practice
https://weakdh.org/
(browser check; for iceweasel one can de-activate
security.ssl3.dhe_dss_aes_128_sha, security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_aes_128_sha,
security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_aes_256_sha via about:config)

Logjam: PFS Deployment Guide
https://weakdh.org/sysadmin.html
(tips for server apache, nginx, dovecot, ...)

Secure Secure Shell
https://stribika.github.io/2015/01/04/secure-secure-shell.html

What about DHE hardening for exim4 smtp server?
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Re: Issues with openvpn and virtualbox as the sole networking provider

2015-05-22 Thread John T. Haggerty

Hopefully my replies are being received. I would hate to think that there
is another issue as well :-( presently I have got the BP and to the point
where I can ping the VPNs specific IP address I don't have any other
internet connection to the entire guest image after the connection is made
aside from this. I'm not sure why there's such an asymmetry between Android
version of this process and Linux version since they have some of the same
utilities in much the same internal structure. if I'm leaving information
out the necessary I'd love to know what I have to provide.
On May 21, 2015 10:24 AM, John T. Haggerty jpcoo...@gmail.com wrote:

 It seems that this could get fixed fairly easily as this must happen a
 great deal
 On May 20, 2015 18:31, John T. Haggerty jpcoo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also this workaround fails to work

 http://www.blackmoreops.com/2015/03/01/setup-vpn-on-kali-linux/ Again
 provider agnostic

 On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 6:28 PM, John T. Haggerty jpcoo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 For example here
 http://www.ibvpn.com/billing/knowledgebase/50/Set-up-the-PPTP-VPN-connection-on-Linux-Network-Manager-GUI.html
 fails to work for me on Debian gnome. This is not the provider in question
 however.

 On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 2:31 PM, John T. Haggerty jpcoo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I don't know if I am able to convey this correctly but here goes:

 I have been using Linux for a while but had a hiatus of about 10 years
 so it's been a slow requisition of learned skills. To that end I was
 thrilled that VirtualBox technology came out recently in order to give this
 a much easier time in connecting to the network and using operating systems
 seamlessly.

 I installed the virtual box package and got the newest Debian DVD ISO
 and was able to get it all installed from what looks like a complete
 install. My issues are with my VPN provider that I use. They provide all
 the configuration on their end so I have no need to be able to offer server
 configs and the like nor can I randomly copy files over. I have a oven
 file, a .crt or certification file and of course my username and password.
 This seems to be good enough to get my android devices connected with a
 port of ovpn.

 The issues are with getting networking to recognize the vpn as the sole
 transparent provider on the instance end. It can initialize and create the
 tun0. I tried to get this configured but it seems that getting this done
 assumes several things which are not accurate in my case:

 1. I want to run both a client and server and have complete access to
 both (the provider I work with handles all the server stuff and I don't
 have to do that, and it technically works without it).

 2. All the key generation, random other stuff that the wiki assumes is
 required is apparently not required.

 3. I'm not able to get any documentation from the net that seems to
 disagree with my need to do this at all (Google searches keep
 re-referencing the document with every single re-phrasing of the request I
 need).

 4. I tried to mess with iptables and the like and get that to work
 which only succeeded in shutting off all access to websites that I tried to
 use

 5. No one has apparently had any issues with Network Manger or it's kin
 that weren't easily solved, and or have never used the virtualization
 technology.g

 I'm sure I have to check things out but I need to know if anyone has
 done this before, what else I need to share (and what I can and must keep
 private due to not wanting to void my privacy)

 Thanks for the help

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 The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of 10 million is a
 statistic -- Joseph Stalin

 Omnia mutantur, nihil interit
 (Translation:
 Everything changes, nothing is lost.)
 -- Ovid, _Metamorphoses_




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 The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of 10 million is a
 statistic -- Joseph Stalin

 Omnia mutantur, nihil interit
 (Translation:
 Everything changes, nothing is lost.)
 -- Ovid, _Metamorphoses_

Re: [OT] Generar Reportes/Documentación