Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[Reco]

 Hi.

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 01:42:14PM -0400, Deb wrote:
> 
> 
> On 05/28/2015 01:23 PM, John Hasler wrote:
> >Frank writes:
> >>It's the ISP security guys who are insisting in their words "the
> >>account or perhaps your whole computer is infected".
> >The only Linux malware in the wild attacks Web sites via vulnerabilities
> >in things like PHP.  Aside from the difficulty there is no motivation
> >for creating malware to attack Linux desktops.  There are not enough of
> >them (and you'd need a version of your malware for every dist) to make
> >it profitable.  A good piece of Windows malware can turn a million
> >Windows desktop boxes into bots.  How many Linux bots would the same
> >effort yield?
> That's for profit, but why wouldn't at least a few random amateurs create
> Linux malware for fun and practice? Or is it too difficult for the
> pimples-and-braces crowd?

Why, they do, of course. Both for fun and profit.

It's just that they choose somewhat different targets from your typical
run-of-the-mill PC.

Exibit a. Android-based phones and tablets. Porn ransomware, botnets,
PII theft - you name it, they have an app for that :)

Exibit b. Your typical Linux-based router box sooner or later will be
included in certain botnet (or they try to do it at least).


Why do it? The amount of said devices available in public is the main
factor.


Why is it possible? The main differences between PC and said devices are:

- Relative lack of updates (4-5 times during 'product' lifecycle at best)

- Relative 'platform stability' (meaning - more or less the same library
set and kernel due to the lack of updates)

- Swiss cheese security configuration by default: administrative
interfaces on WAN for routers, horribly coded kernel modules such as
ozwpan, insecure permissions for /dev/kmem on certain phones, and last,
but not least - well-known username/password pairs such as admin/admin
that nobody bothers to change


Does this means that you need to be very unlucky to encounter a malware
on a typical amd64 Debian installation (disregarding PHP or other
webserver software)? Yes.

Does this means that you should not do something with said Debian
installation beforehand? For me the answer is - no, just because I like
to cater for that paranoid guy in my head :)


Is clamav is the answer to Linux malware? No, because the only thing
that clamav is supposed to do is to check for Windows malware while
running on Linux (or *BSD) box.

What is the correct answer to Linux malware? Any kind of IDS, be it the
local one (rkhunter, debsums, fcheck), or distributed one (snort).

Reco


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Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[Petter Adsen]

On Fri, 29 May 2015 08:31:49 +0200
Petter Adsen  wrote:

> On Thu, 28 May 2015 09:21:05 -0400
> Frank  wrote:
> 
> > On 05/28/2015 02:44 AM, Emil Payne wrote:
> > > On 05/27/2015 10:16 PM, Charlie wrote:
> > >> On Wed, 27 May 2015 21:06:10 -0400 Frank sent:
> > >>
> > >>> When I went into Thunderbird at mid-day one of my accounts with
> > >>> my ISP Videotron.ca registered a logon failure..despite the fact
> > >>> nothing had changed.
> > >>
> > >> I have no answer. However, with my ISP I periodically have the
> > >> same problem. I attempt to log on with claws-mail, without
> > >> changing anything, no update, no upgrade to the system. No
> > >> tinkering, nothing at all and of the two accounts one gives me
> > >> this error message:
> > >>
> > 
> > >> Charlie
> > >>
> > > That's odd. I have 6 gmail and 8 yahoo accounts. Yesterday all six
> > > gmail accounts wanted the passwords reentered. I have thunderbird
> > > set to remember passwords. At first I couldn't even get anything
> > > to enter into the password box, although the checkbox and buttons
> > > worked fine. I restarted my computer and it immediately stopped,
> > > saying no keyboard found, even though pushing F1 continued booting
> > > and ENTER worked at the grub menu. Once booted in I restarted
> > > thunderbird and re-entered the passwords as saved. Everything
> > > works fine now. At the time I had put it down to intermittent
> > > power outages due to t-storms, but now I wonder.
> > >
> > > Emil
> > >
> > 
> > The logon failure doesn't bother me as much as what the
> > security department  at my ISP is claimingthat my system and
> > that account have been compromised. I can't see how...but that's
> > what they claim.
> > 
> > The weird thing is if, while I am on the phone with them they change
> > the password for that account, and I enter it into Thunderbird, the
> > account works fine...until I close Thunderbird and re-open it. Then
> > no password will be accepted by Thunderbird and we are back at
> > square one. I'm guessing their system catches the IMAP logon and
> > blocks it, because as we know my system is infested with malware
> > and viruses.
> > 
> > It's all very frustrating.
> 
> I don't quite see why they have any reason to believe your system is
> compromised, unless there is something they aren't telling you (and
> that would be irresponsible of them, IMHO).
> 
> Have you tried with another MUA to see if you get the same behaviour?
> And/or tried booting from a live disk and run Thunderbird from that?
> This could help determine if the problem is with Thunderbird itself,
> your configuration, or somewhere else.

Oh, and are you using IMAP? If so, try POP3 - or the other way around.

Petter

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Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[Petter Adsen]

On Thu, 28 May 2015 09:21:05 -0400
Frank  wrote:

> On 05/28/2015 02:44 AM, Emil Payne wrote:
> > On 05/27/2015 10:16 PM, Charlie wrote:
> >> On Wed, 27 May 2015 21:06:10 -0400 Frank sent:
> >>
> >>> When I went into Thunderbird at mid-day one of my accounts with my
> >>> ISP Videotron.ca registered a logon failure..despite the fact
> >>> nothing had changed.
> >>
> >> I have no answer. However, with my ISP I periodically have the same
> >> problem. I attempt to log on with claws-mail, without changing
> >> anything, no update, no upgrade to the system. No tinkering,
> >> nothing at all and of the two accounts one gives me this error
> >> message:
> >>
> 
> >> Charlie
> >>
> > That's odd. I have 6 gmail and 8 yahoo accounts. Yesterday all six
> > gmail accounts wanted the passwords reentered. I have thunderbird
> > set to remember passwords. At first I couldn't even get anything to
> > enter into the password box, although the checkbox and buttons
> > worked fine. I restarted my computer and it immediately stopped,
> > saying no keyboard found, even though pushing F1 continued booting
> > and ENTER worked at the grub menu. Once booted in I restarted
> > thunderbird and re-entered the passwords as saved. Everything works
> > fine now. At the time I had put it down to intermittent power
> > outages due to t-storms, but now I wonder.
> >
> > Emil
> >
> 
> The logon failure doesn't bother me as much as what the security 
> department  at my ISP is claimingthat my system and that account
> have been compromised. I can't see how...but that's what they claim.
> 
> The weird thing is if, while I am on the phone with them they change
> the password for that account, and I enter it into Thunderbird, the
> account works fine...until I close Thunderbird and re-open it. Then
> no password will be accepted by Thunderbird and we are back at square
> one. I'm guessing their system catches the IMAP logon and blocks it,
> because as we know my system is infested with malware and viruses.
> 
> It's all very frustrating.

I don't quite see why they have any reason to believe your system is
compromised, unless there is something they aren't telling you (and
that would be irresponsible of them, IMHO).

Have you tried with another MUA to see if you get the same behaviour?
And/or tried booting from a live disk and run Thunderbird from that?
This could help determine if the problem is with Thunderbird itself,
your configuration, or somewhere else.

Petter

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Re: make oldconfig bzImage with GCC 4.9.2 on debian 8

[Dhiraj Bhor]

Can anyone help me out.


On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Dhiraj Bhor 
wrote:

> Hi Sven,
>
> I applied the patch suggested but it did not worked for me.
> I wanted to let you know that i am compiling kernel version 2.6.20 and
> given link has patch applicable for 2.6.27 which is not working for me.
>
> When i applied the patch, i got following error:
>
> *  CC  kernel/capability.o*
> *  CC  kernel/ptrace.o*
> *In file included from kernel/ptrace.c:16:0:*
> *include/linux/pagemap.h: In function ‘fault_in_pages_readable’:*
> *include/linux/pagemap.h:222:16: warning: variable ‘c’ set but not used
> [-Wunused-but-set-variable]*
> *  volatile char c;*
> *^*
> *  CC  kernel/timer.o*
> *In file included from include/asm/current.h:4:0,*
> * from include/linux/capability.h:46,*
> * from include/linux/sched.h:46,*
> * from include/asm/irq.h:13,*
> * from include/linux/kernel_stat.h:4,*
> * from kernel/timer.c:22:*
> *include/asm/irq_regs.h: In function ‘set_irq_regs’:*
> *include/asm/pda.h:39:16: warning: variable ‘tmp__’ set but not used
> [-Wunused-but-set-variable]*
> *   if (0) { T__ tmp__; tmp__ = (val); }   \*
> *^*
> *include/asm/pda.h:95:30: note: in expansion of macro ‘pda_to_op’*
> * #define write_pda(field,val) pda_to_op("mov",field,val)*
> *  ^*
> *include/asm/irq_regs.h:22:2: note: in expansion of macro ‘write_pda’*
> *  write_pda(irq_regs, new_regs);*
> *  ^*
> *  CC  kernel/user.o*
> *In file included from include/asm/current.h:4:0,*
> * from include/linux/capability.h:46,*
> * from include/linux/sched.h:46,*
> * from kernel/user.c:12:*
> *include/asm/irq_regs.h: In function ‘set_irq_regs’:*
> *include/asm/pda.h:39:16: warning: variable ‘tmp__’ set but not used
> [-Wunused-but-set-variable]*
> *   if (0) { T__ tmp__; tmp__ = (val); }   \*
> *^*
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> * #define write_pda(field,val) pda_to_op("mov",field,val)*
> *  ^*
> *include/asm/irq_regs.h:22:2: note: in expansion of macro ‘write_pda’*
> *  write_pda(irq_regs, new_regs);*
> *  ^*
> *  CC  kernel/signal.o*
> *  CC  kernel/sys.o*
> *  CC  kernel/kmod.o*
> *kernel/kmod.c: In function ‘call_usermodehelper’:*
> *kernel/kmod.c:134:28: warning: variable ‘old_session’ set but not used
> [-Wunused-but-set-variable]*
> *  struct key *new_session, *old_session;*
> *^*
> *kernel/kmod.c:134:14: warning: variable ‘new_session’ set but not used
> [-Wunused-but-set-variable]*
> *  struct key *new_session, *old_session;*
> *  ^*
> *  CC  kernel/workqueue.o*
> *In file included from include/asm/current.h:4:0,*
> * from include/linux/capability.h:46,*
> * from include/linux/sched.h:46,*
> * from include/linux/utsname.h:35,*
> * from include/asm/elf.h:12,*
> * from include/linux/elf.h:7,*
> * from include/linux/module.h:15,*
> * from kernel/workqueue.c:19:*
> *include/asm/irq_regs.h: In function ‘set_irq_regs’:*
> *include/asm/pda.h:39:16: warning: variable ‘tmp__’ set but not used
> [-Wunused-but-set-variable]*
> *   if (0) { T__ tmp__; tmp__ = (val); }   \*
> *^*
> *include/asm/pda.h:95:30: note: in expansion of macro ‘pda_to_op’*
> * #define write_pda(field,val) pda_to_op("mov",field,val)*
> *  ^*
> *include/asm/irq_regs.h:22:2: note: in expansion of macro ‘write_pda’*
> *  write_pda(irq_regs, new_regs);*
> *  ^*
> *  CC  kernel/pid.o*
> *  CC  kernel/rcupdate.o*
> *In file included from include/asm/current.h:4:0,*
> * from include/linux/wait.h:26,*
> * from include/linux/mmzone.h:9,*
> * from include/linux/gfp.h:4,*
> * from include/linux/slab.h:14,*
> * from include/linux/percpu.h:5,*
> * from include/linux/rcupdate.h:41,*
> * from kernel/rcupdate.c:38:*
> *include/asm/irq_regs.h: In function ‘set_irq_regs’:*
> *include/asm/pda.h:39:16: warning: variable ‘tmp__’ set but not used
> [-Wunused-but-set-variable]*
> *   if (0) { T__ tmp__; tmp__ = (val); }   \*
> *^*
> *include/asm/pda.h:95:30: note: in expansion of macro ‘pda_to_op’*
> * #define write_pda(field,val) pda_to_op("mov",field,val)*
> *  ^*
> *include/asm/irq_regs.h:22:2: note: in expansion of macro ‘write_pda’*
> *  write_pda(irq_regs, new_regs);*
> *  ^*
> *  CC  kernel/extable.o*
> *  CC  kernel/params.o*
> *  CC  kernel/posix-timers.o*
> *In file included from include/asm/current.h:4:0,*
> * from include/linux/capability.h:46,*
> * from include/linux/sched.h:46,*
> *   

dmesg BIOS error

[Deb]

What does this error listing in my dmesg mean:

[0.00] ACPI BIOS Warning (bug): 32/64X FACS address mismatch in 
FADT: 0xCF7E4E40/0xCF7E4D40, using 32-bit address 
(20140424/tbfadt-283)


Deb


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Re: wheezy: need help with serial port

[briand]

On Thu, 28 May 2015 16:52:18 -0600
"D. R. Evans"  wrote:

> Prior to installing debian, I have used several releases of *buntu on a
> machine on which /dev/ttyS4 is used; *buntu always detected and allowed me to
> use the port automagically.
> 
> Wheezy, however, sees only ttyS0, S1, S2 and S3. As far as I have been able to
> determine, none of these is associated with the physical port that I need to
> use (so it's not a case of the ports being numbered differently under wheezy).
> 
> How do I create an entry for /dev/ttyS4 and associate it with the correct
> physical port?
> 
>   Doc
> 

what is the physical port, is it an actual rs-232 ?

it's possible that the numbering has changed such that ttyS4 is now actually 
ttyS3, ttyS2, etc... because some other device went away.

other possibilities:

the kernel module is not auto-loading (always a favorite) so the device doesn't 
show up.

something having to do with udev. maybe the recognition string for your device 
disappeared for some reason so you'll need to figure out what it is and add a 
rule for it.

peruse dmesg and see if the device is being recognized by the kernel, like so...

dmesg | grep tty

[0.00] console [tty0] enabled
[0.459780] 00:06: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4, base_baud = 115200) is a 
16550A


Brian


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Re: Missing audio notifications

[briand]

On Thu, 28 May 2015 17:17:52 -0500
Jose Martinez  wrote:

> I am a relatively new Debian user.  I had my system set up properly and 
> everything seemed to be working well.  I used the Pithos front-end for 
> the pandora service (which I like fairly well, by the way) which caused 
> all of my audio notifications from the gnome system to stop.  I no 

the obvious thing to try is to disable/uninstall pithos and see if 
notifications return.

not holding out much hope for that since your other audio seems to be working.

it's also possible that some other change made around the same time caused the 
problem, and it just looks like pithos did.

  dmesg | less

would be the first thing to try and see if there are any messages in there 
relating to audio.

not much help, i know.  audio problems can be quite tough to debug on linux.


Brian

p.s. if it will make you feel any better my windows box at work has all sorts 
of weird audio problems, so it's not just linux.


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Re: NFS drive uids/gids completely broken- for a little while

[briand]

On Thu, 28 May 2015 13:40:21 -0600
Bob Proulx  wrote:

> 
> I would tend to be more concerned that something glitchy is happening
> on your physical network connections that you saw something one moment
> and then it went away on another moment.  This may be an indicator of
> something else happening.  It is actually easier when things fail hard
> because then you can get to root cause.  Hard to do that when the
> problem goes away.
> 

that's the only time i've seen it happen.

at least i know to check for it now.

so i tend to do ls -l as soon as i get on.

so far, so good.

Brian


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Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[David Christensen]

On 05/27/2015 06:06 PM, Frank wrote:

I access all my mail through Thunderbird using IMAP. It has always been
flawless until yesterday.
When I went into Thunderbird at mid-day one of my accounts with my
ISP Videotron.ca registered a logon failure..despite the fact nothing
had changed.
They keep changing my password through their facilities...and
when I run Thunderbird with the new password it connects fine.
But if I close Thunderbird and go back in, the old "cannot logon to
IMAP" is back.
Three separate calls to support at Videotron resulted in them
eventually claiming (on the third call) that my system had been
compromised. I told them that was unlikely as I am not running
Windows. He then spoke with their "security" department who said
it was possible the system had been compromised...that Linux and
Mac are subject to root-kits and "other" viruses.
I have checked (with chkrootkit) and as far as it is concerned,
there is nothing wrong.
The strange thing is this: I have 3 separate mail accounts with
Videotron...but only the main one (which is under my name)  is
giving this trouble. This one which I use for this list is fine
as is a second less important account.
It seems I can't convince them the problem is at their endor
perhaps something else is going on here ?


The burden of proof is on the accuser.  Send an e-mail message to 
Videotron.ca via your primary Videotron.ca e-mail account, outline the 
problem and Videotron.ca's response, and demand that Videotron.ca 
provide evidence, in writing, of your computer doing suspicious or known 
bad things.  If Videotron.ca does, post it here, and you and the list 
can work to confirm/ isolate the problem(s) and fix your computer.  If 
not, Videotron.ca is wasting your time.



"ISP" implies Videotron.ca provides you with your Internet connection. 
Is this the case?



David


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Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[Frank]

On 28/05/15 06:39 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Thursday 28 May 2015 21:42:51 Frank wrote:

On 28/05/15 04:22 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Thursday 28 May 2015 17:52:33 Frank wrote:

On 28/05/15 12:37 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Thursday 28 May 2015 17:26:31 Darac Marjal wrote:

On Thu, 28 May 2015 11:34:44 -0400
Frank  wrote:

[cut]


   One more thing on this problem:

   Are there in fact any viruses that can infect Linux systems? I
know about rootkits but I gather they are rare. But the guys at my
ISP are so insistent I am beginning to wonder


There are viruses that run on Linux. Wikipedia has a non-exhaustive
list at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware#Viruses

As Wikipedia points out, though, Linux tends to find it easier to
close the vulnerability that allowed the virus to run in the first
place. And, in many cases, vulnerabilities are found BEFORE they're
exploited (compare that with Windows, were someone might find a
vulnerability and start exploiting it and then no-one else might find
the same problem for some years).


Altough there have indeed been proof-of-concept viruses for Linux, I
understood that there had not yet been any in the wild.  But that is
viruses, not other forms of malware.

This problem arises when you open Firefox, not when you boot up?  And
it happens when you open Firefox, even when the computer has been
running for a while?


 It's not Firefox we're talking about ..it's Thunderbird and it only
affects one account, even though I have 3 on the same ISP.
No connection with booting - no connection with anything other
than that one account not being able to logon using IMAP.

It's the ISP security guys who are insisting in their words "the account
or perhaps your whole computer is infected".


Yes, sorry.  I meant Thunderbird.  But the questuiosn are still relevant,
since I was thinking of Thunderbird.

Lisi


No. As is I said the problem is not related to booting in any way.


That's what I was asking.   Had there been any time (not causal link) I had an
idea... That's all.


It
just appeared out of the blue. It now appears they had blocked that
account because their system (or they) thought/thinks it is/was
infected.  And it's impossible to deal with these guys. One of them
tried to tell me he had a masters degree in Computer Science...to which
I replied what are you doing handling complaints like this...should you
be working for Google or somebody of that nature  :)


;-)

I once told a lawyer that she couldn't do arithemetic.   She was put out and
said that she had an A in A level Mathematics.  I said that she still
couldn't do arithmetic.

Lisi



:) :)


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Re: jessie: need help with serial port

[Stuart Longland]

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On 29/05/15 08:55, D. R. Evans wrote:
> Re-send, with the correct subject line. I keep getting wheezy and
> jessie mixed up. Sorry.
> 
> 
> 
> Prior to installing debian, I have used several releases of *buntu
> on a machine on which /dev/ttyS4 is used; *buntu always detected
> and allowed me to use the port automagically.
> 
> Jessie, however, sees only ttyS0, S1, S2 and S3. As far as I have
> been able to determine, none of these is associated with the
> physical port that I need to use (so it's not a case of the ports
> being numbered differently under wheezy).
> 
> How do I create an entry for /dev/ttyS4 and associate it with the
> correct physical port?

Is this on a PCI serial card or some such?  Perhaps the card needs a
firmware blob or special driver?

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Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[Deb]

On 05/28/2015 06:39 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
I once told a lawyer that she couldn't do arithemetic. She was put out 
and said that she had an A in A level Mathematics. I said that she 
still couldn't do arithmetic. Lisi 
A mathematician told me that, once you start doing fourth-year 
university math, the stuff you learned in ninth grade starts to trip you 
up unless you get refreshers. I'm betting the onerous grind of a 
professional school almost makes people forget how to use a fork.


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Re: Debian/MIPS Jessie doesn't resolve hostnames?

[Stuart Longland]

On 28/05/15 07:26, deloptes wrote:
> Stuart Longland wrote:
>> Now there isn't yet installation media for Jessie on the Qube, so I used
>> the Wheezy installation media to install Debian Wheezy, then updated my
>> sources.list and did an `apt-get dist-upgrade` to get to Jessie.
>>
> 
> The upgrade guide from debian tells us to do apt-get upgrade and then
> apt-get dist-upgrade
> 
> this reduces the pain and will probably help you.

Sadly it does not:
> root@qube:~# apt-get upgrade
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree   
> Reading state information... Done
> Calculating upgrade... Done
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.


> Your note on the c library is correct ... did strace?

It's a bit noisy, but I get this:
> root@qube:~# strace -o ping.strace ping -c 1 www.google.com.au
> ping: unknown host www.google.com.au
> root@qube:~# cat ping.strace 
> execve("/bin/ping", ["ping", "-c", "1", "www.google.com.au"], [/* 20 vars 
> */]) = 0
> brk(0)  = 0xa77000
> mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 
> 0x77e34000
> uname({sys="Linux", node="qube", ...})  = 0
> access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
> directory)
> access("/etc/ld.so.preload", R_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
> directory)
> open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3
> fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=21308, ...}) = 0
> mmap(NULL, 21308, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x77e28000
> close(3)= 0
> access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
> directory)
> open("/lib/mipsel-linux-gnu/libcap.so.2", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3
> read(3, 
> "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\10\0\1\0\0\\17\0\0004\0\0\0"..., 
> 512) = 512
> fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=19252, ...}) = 0
> mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 
> 0x77e33000
> mmap(NULL, 82288, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 
> 0x77de8000
> mprotect(0x77dec000, 61440, PROT_NONE)  = 0
> mmap(0x77dfb000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
> MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x3000) = 0x77dfb000
> close(3)= 0
> access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
> directory)
> open("/lib/mipsel-linux-gnu/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3
> read(3, 
> "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\10\0\1\0\0\0\324\271\1\0004\0\0\0"..., 
> 512) = 512
> lseek(3, 520, SEEK_SET) = 520
> read(3, 
> "\4\0\0\0\24\0\0\0\3\0\0\0GNU\0\343\24\305\272\226\372]\251\374\343\350t\225\321;\f"...,
>  36) = 36
> lseek(3, 828, SEEK_SET) = 828
> read(3, "\4\0\0\0\20\0\0\0\1\0\0\0GNU\0\0\0\0\0\2\0\0\0\6\0\0\0 \0\0\0", 32) 
> = 32
> fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=1594268, ...}) = 0
> mmap(NULL, 1572688, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 
> 0x77c68000
> mprotect(0x77dd, 65536, PROT_NONE)  = 0
> mmap(0x77de, 24576, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
> MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x168000) = 0x77de
> mmap(0x77de6000, 8016, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
> MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x77de6000
> close(3)= 0
> access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
> directory)
> open("/lib/mipsel-linux-gnu/libattr.so.1", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3
> read(3, 
> "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\10\0\1\0\0\0\240\f\0\0004\0\0\0"..., 
> 512) = 512
> fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=18936, ...}) = 0
> mmap(NULL, 82176, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 
> 0x77c5
> mprotect(0x77c54000, 61440, PROT_NONE)  = 0
> mmap(0x77c63000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
> MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x3000) = 0x77c63000
> close(3)= 0
> mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 
> 0x77c67000
> set_thread_area(0x77c6e6a0) = 0
> mprotect(0x77de, 12288, PROT_READ)  = 0
> mprotect(0x77c63000, 4096, PROT_READ)   = 0
> mprotect(0x77dfb000, 4096, PROT_READ)   = 0
> mprotect(0x41a000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0
> mprotect(0x77e31000, 4096, PROT_READ)   = 0
> munmap(0x77e28000, 21308)   = 0
> brk(0)  = 0xa77000
> brk(0xa98000)   = 0xa98000
> capget({_LINUX_CAPABILITY_VERSION_3, 0}, NULL) = 0
> capget({_LINUX_CAPABILITY_VERSION_3, 0}, 
> {CAP_CHOWN|CAP_DAC_OVERRIDE|CAP_DAC_READ_SEARCH|CAP_FOWNER|CAP_FSETID|CAP_KILL|CAP_SETGID|CAP_SETUID|CAP_SETPCAP|CAP_LINUX_IMMUTABLE|CAP_NET_BIND_SERVICE|CAP_NET_BROADCAST|CAP_NET_ADMIN|CAP_NET_RAW|CAP_IPC_LOCK|CAP_IPC_OWNER|CAP_SYS_MODULE|CAP_SYS_RAWIO|CAP_SYS_CHROOT|CAP_SYS_PTRACE|CAP_SYS_PACCT|CAP_SYS_ADMIN|CAP_SYS_BOOT|CAP_SYS_NICE|CAP_SYS_RESOURCE|CAP_SYS_TIME|CAP_SYS_TTY_CONFIG|CAP_MKNOD|CAP_LEASE|CAP_AUDIT_WRITE|CAP_AUDIT_CONTROL|CAP_SETFCAP,
>  
> CAP_CHOWN|CAP

Re: Mousepad Not Saving Prefs

[Stephen R Guglielmo]

On Mon, 18 May 2015 11:31:50 -0400
Stephen R Guglielmo  wrote:
> Hi list,
> 
> I'm running Debian Stretch/testing (updated daily). I use Xfce4 and
> Mousepad as my GUI text editor. It seems that Mousepad is no longer
> saving my preferences.
> 
> If I open a text document (either by File->Open or double-clicking
> a file from the desktop), make changes to the preferences, close
> Mousepad, and reopen it, the preferences revert back to the default
> settings.
> 
> For example, if I set the color scheme to Cobalt then close Mousepad,
> when I open it again, the color scheme will be back to the default
> "None." This happens for all the preferences, not just the color
> scheme.
> 
> I don't use Mousepad often. The last time I used it, this problem
> didn't occur. It's been maybe a week or two since I've last used it.
> If I recall correctly, I did install an update to it since then.
> 
> Any ideas on how to investigate this?
> 
> Thanks!

For any future reader:
`sudo apt-get install dconf-gsettings-backend`
solved it for me.


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jessie: need help with serial port

[D. R. Evans]

Re-send, with the correct subject line. I keep getting wheezy and jessie mixed
up. Sorry.



Prior to installing debian, I have used several releases of *buntu on a
machine on which /dev/ttyS4 is used; *buntu always detected and allowed me to
use the port automagically.

Jessie, however, sees only ttyS0, S1, S2 and S3. As far as I have been able to
determine, none of these is associated with the physical port that I need to
use (so it's not a case of the ports being numbered differently under wheezy).

How do I create an entry for /dev/ttyS4 and associate it with the correct
physical port?

  Doc

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[D. R. Evans]

Prior to installing debian, I have used several releases of *buntu on a
machine on which /dev/ttyS4 is used; *buntu always detected and allowed me to
use the port automagically.

Wheezy, however, sees only ttyS0, S1, S2 and S3. As far as I have been able to
determine, none of these is associated with the physical port that I need to
use (so it's not a case of the ports being numbered differently under wheezy).

How do I create an entry for /dev/ttyS4 and associate it with the correct
physical port?

  Doc

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Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 28 May 2015 21:42:51 Frank wrote:
> On 28/05/15 04:22 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Thursday 28 May 2015 17:52:33 Frank wrote:
> >> On 28/05/15 12:37 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >>> On Thursday 28 May 2015 17:26:31 Darac Marjal wrote:
>  On Thu, 28 May 2015 11:34:44 -0400
>  Frank  wrote:
> 
>  [cut]
> 
> >   One more thing on this problem:
> >
> >   Are there in fact any viruses that can infect Linux systems? I
> > know about rootkits but I gather they are rare. But the guys at my
> > ISP are so insistent I am beginning to wonder
> 
>  There are viruses that run on Linux. Wikipedia has a non-exhaustive
>  list at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware#Viruses
> 
>  As Wikipedia points out, though, Linux tends to find it easier to
>  close the vulnerability that allowed the virus to run in the first
>  place. And, in many cases, vulnerabilities are found BEFORE they're
>  exploited (compare that with Windows, were someone might find a
>  vulnerability and start exploiting it and then no-one else might find
>  the same problem for some years).
> >>>
> >>> Altough there have indeed been proof-of-concept viruses for Linux, I
> >>> understood that there had not yet been any in the wild.  But that is
> >>> viruses, not other forms of malware.
> >>>
> >>> This problem arises when you open Firefox, not when you boot up?  And
> >>> it happens when you open Firefox, even when the computer has been
> >>> running for a while?
> >>
> >> It's not Firefox we're talking about ..it's Thunderbird and it only
> >> affects one account, even though I have 3 on the same ISP.
> >> No connection with booting - no connection with anything other
> >> than that one account not being able to logon using IMAP.
> >>
> >> It's the ISP security guys who are insisting in their words "the account
> >> or perhaps your whole computer is infected".
> >
> > Yes, sorry.  I meant Thunderbird.  But the questuiosn are still relevant,
> > since I was thinking of Thunderbird.
> >
> > Lisi
>
>No. As is I said the problem is not related to booting in any way.

That's what I was asking.   Had there been any time (not causal link) I had an 
idea... That's all.

>It 
> just appeared out of the blue. It now appears they had blocked that
> account because their system (or they) thought/thinks it is/was
> infected.  And it's impossible to deal with these guys. One of them
> tried to tell me he had a masters degree in Computer Science...to which
> I replied what are you doing handling complaints like this...should you
> be working for Google or somebody of that nature  :)

;-)

I once told a lawyer that she couldn't do arithemetic.   She was put out and 
said that she had an A in A level Mathematics.  I said that she still 
couldn't do arithmetic.  

Lisi


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Missing audio notifications

[Jose Martinez]

I am a relatively new Debian user.  I had my system set up properly and 
everything seemed to be working well.  I used the Pithos front-end for 
the pandora service (which I like fairly well, by the way) which caused 
all of my audio notifications from the gnome system to stop.  I no 
longer get the sounds from the various parts of the system notifying me 
of changes, i.e. icedove pops up a visual notification that I have 
recieved new e-mail, but the sound that had been associated with that no 
longer happens.  This is not isolated to icedove.  The system used to 
make a sound when I changed the volume level using my mouse wheel which 
no longer occurs either.


The audio on the system does work.  I can play MP3 files through 
Rhythmbox or other audio player.  I can play movies with audio, etc.  So 
the audio sub-system of the computer is functional.  It is just the 
alerts that do not work.  I went to the system settings and made sure 
that alerts were turned on and the volume for them was turned up.  They 
were and it was.  I adjusted both anyway, and this made no difference. 
Basically none of the sounds coming from the operating system are 
functional.


What should I look at/check to solve this problem.  Again, I have been 
able to isolate the problem as having started when I used the Pithos 
package.  I am using an older laptop system, an HP Pavilion dv9000 
system, if that makes any difference.


Anyone with any information/help will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: How to boot without GUI

[Dalios]

On 05/28/2015 11:53 PM, Dalios wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> 
> When on Debian 6 I used the following two ways:
> 
> Method 1: While on grub menu: press "e" from the keyboard and then use
> the arrow keys to go to the kernel line and add the word "text" at the
> end of the line. After doing whatever it is that you want to do with the
> command line you can use the "startx" command (as a user).
> 
> Method 2: While on your desktop: logout, Ctrl+Alt+F1, login from there
> (I suppose that you will have to login as root to do what you want).
> Then use the command "init 3" do whatever it is that you want to do and
> then use the command "init 5 && exit" to go back to your desktop.
> 
> 
> Strangely, the first method is not working for me right now (Debian 8
> XFCE) despite I am 100% sure it was working with lightdm and XFCE in
> previous versions, I will have to look into this. The second method is
> not expected to work on Debian 8 because of systemd which reminds me
> that I will finally have to do some reading...
> 
> 
> Some useful links from the forums:
> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=69673
> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=105137
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Dalios
> 
> 

Firstly, I have to correct myself: As it is (was) widely known to every
user of Debian versions up to Debian 7 Wheezy (currently oldstable)
there are no differences between runlevels 2 to 5. See for example [1].
So the command "init 3" that I gave before should have no effect on a
default Debian system, the correct would be "init 1".

Secondly and for those interested (despite a little off-topic for this
thread) in the systemd era the above mentioned two methods would have to
be adjusted like this:


Method 1: While on grub menu: press "e" from the keyboard and then use
the arrow keys to go to the kernel line and add this "systemd.unit=multi
user.target" at the end of the line. After doing whatever it is that you
want to do with the command line you can use the command "systemctl
isolate graphical.target" (as root) to start the GUI.

Method 2: While on the GUI one can go to the CLI with the command
"systemctl isolate multi-user.target" (as root) either from a VT (using
Ctrl+Alt+F1) with or without prior logout from the desktop or from a
terminal emulator inside the running desktop. To go back to the GUI the
command would be as before "systemctl isolate graphical.target" (as root).


[1]
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch03.en.html#_stage_4_the_normal_debian_system
[2]
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90554/how-to-boot-linux-to-command-line-mode-instead-of-gui


Regards,
Dalios


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Re: Need SAS HBA for Debian Jessie

[Don Armstrong]

On Fri, 22 May 2015, Leslie Rhorer wrote:
> On Monday, May 18, 2015 at 3:10:05 PM UTC-5, Don Armstrong wrote:
> > I personally am using an LSI SAS2008-based HBA with two HP MSA60
> > enclosures; I then run standard mdraid on top of that:
> 
> And there are ports for the management software in Jessie?

There is no management software needed; it's an HBA.

> > If you have smaller numbers of drives, then a standard SATA HBA is
> > probably good enough.
> 
> Not so much.  Twenty-plus drives in external SFF-8088 enclosures.

Then that's what I'd suggest.

> > Obviously, this set up is not that quick.
> 
> Well, quick is nice, and the existing controllers are managing more
> than 750 MBps, but most of the work is across a single 1G Ethernet
> LAN.

In this case, it's limited because the enclosure is kind of slow and I'm
daisy chaining them. But doing raid6 with mdadm, it's getting around
180M/s.

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Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[Janis Hamme]

Hello Frank,

I'dont thing you should be too worried about the security of your
system. I had a similar problem with my own mail server - I'm running
Dovecot on Debian Wheezy.
At first, I was very suspicious why Thunderbird didn't accept my
password any more but there is a simple explanation: The maximum number
of IMAP connections per user and IP was succeeded.

It's a bit confusing Thunderbird isn't showing an appropriate message
for that case (I didn't look into the IMAP protocol if Thunderbird could
distinguish the failure from a bad password at all). However, my mail
server logs are clear:

> Maximum number of connections from user+IP exceeded
(mail_max_userip_connections=15)

After raising the the maximum number of connections and restarting
Dovecot, the error was gone immediately .

Thunderbird seems to open many simultaneous IMAP connections if you have
a lot of folders in your account. I'm also using push mail on my android
smartphone, which requires one IMAP connection per folder. If you have
no influence on your mail provider you can limit the number of
simultaneous connections in the mail account settings of Thunderbird.

Regards,
Janis

Am 28.05.2015 um 03:06 schrieb Frank:
> This is long so I hope all can read till the end.
>
> I access all my mail through Thunderbird using IMAP. It has always been
> flawless until yesterday.
> When I went into Thunderbird at mid-day one of my accounts with my
> ISP Videotron.ca registered a logon failure..despite the fact nothing
> had changed.
>
> They keep changing my password through their facilities...and
> when I run Thunderbird with the new password it connects fine.
> But if I close Thunderbird and go back in, the old "cannot logon to
> IMAP" is back.
>
> Three separate calls to support at Videotron resulted in them
> eventually claiming (on the third call) that my system had been
> compromised. I told them that was unlikely as I am not running
> Windows. He then spoke with their "security" department who said
> it was possible the system had been compromised...that Linux and
> Mac are subject to root-kits and "other" viruses.
>
> I have checked (with chkrootkit) and as far as it is concerned,
> there is nothing wrong.
>
> The strange thing is this: I have 3 separate mail accounts with
> Videotron...but only the main one (which is under my name)  is
> giving this trouble. This one which I use for this list is fine
> as is a second less important account.
>
>
> It seems I can't convince them the problem is at their endor
> perhaps something else is going on here ?
>
>


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Re-establishing remote-X access.

[R. Clayton]

For the past n years I've been running X-capable programs on this system

  remote$ uname -a
  FreeBSD AngkorWat 9.2-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE-p10 #0: Tue Jul  8
  10:48:24 UTC 2014
  r...@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64

  remote$

using this system as the display:

  local$ uname -a
  Linux BanjaLuka 3.16.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt9-3 (2015-04-23)
  i686 GNU/Linux

  local$ lsb_release -a
  No LSB modules are available.
  Distributor ID: Debian
  Description:Debian GNU/Linux testing (stretch)
  Release:testing
  Codename:   stretch

  local$

Due to an accidental reboot on the local system, I've discovered this no longer
works:

  local$ grep nolisten /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc

  local$ xhost +inet:angkorwat
  angkorwat being added to access control list

  local$ ssh -YC angkorwat 
  X11 forwarding request failed on channel 0
  Last login: Thu May 28 16:09:09 2015 from banjaluka.rclayton.net
  FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE-p10 (GENERIC) #0: Tue Jul  8 10:48:24 UTC 2014

  Welcome to FreeBSD!

  [ blah blah blah ]
  
  remote$ export DISPLAY=banjaluka:0.0

  remote$ xmixer  
  Error: Can't open display: banjaluka:0.0

  remote$ 

I don't know what the "X11 forwarding request failed" message means, but it
always shows up and hasn't interfered with remote access before.

Remote access also fails with "ssh -Y", "ssh -XC", and "ssh -X".

The remote system hasn't been changed in quite a while, and the local system is
updated weekly.  I'm assuming the problem's occurring due to some change on the
local system.

What problem has developed providing local X access to remote programs?  How do
I go about debugging this problem?


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Re: How to boot without GUI

[Dalios]

On 05/28/2015 07:56 PM, Curt wrote:
> On 2015-05-28, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> 
>>> If you want to boot to the console and start your graphical environment
>>> from there ('startx" and company) you must either disable or uninstall
>>> the display manager IMHO.
>>
>> Can you not just boot into level 1 in the first place if you want to run 
>> completely without X?
>>
> 
> Runlevel 1 is single-user/minimal mode.
> 
> 

When on Debian 6 I used the following two ways:

Method 1: While on grub menu: press "e" from the keyboard and then use
the arrow keys to go to the kernel line and add the word "text" at the
end of the line. After doing whatever it is that you want to do with the
command line you can use the "startx" command (as a user).

Method 2: While on your desktop: logout, Ctrl+Alt+F1, login from there
(I suppose that you will have to login as root to do what you want).
Then use the command "init 3" do whatever it is that you want to do and
then use the command "init 5 && exit" to go back to your desktop.


Strangely, the first method is not working for me right now (Debian 8
XFCE) despite I am 100% sure it was working with lightdm and XFCE in
previous versions, I will have to look into this. The second method is
not expected to work on Debian 8 because of systemd which reminds me
that I will finally have to do some reading...


Some useful links from the forums:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=69673
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=105137





Regards,
Dalios


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Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[Frank]

On 28/05/15 03:00 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:



On Thursday 28 May 2015 11:34:44 Frank wrote:

On 28/05/15 09:21 AM, Frank wrote:

On 05/28/2015 02:44 AM, Emil Payne wrote:

On 05/27/2015 10:16 PM, Charlie wrote:

On Wed, 27 May 2015 21:06:10 -0400 Frank sent:

When I went into Thunderbird at mid-day one of my accounts with
my ISP Videotron.ca registered a logon failure..despite the fact
nothing had changed.


That's odd. I have 6 gmail and 8 yahoo accounts. Yesterday all six
gmail accounts wanted the passwords reentered. I have thunderbird
set to remember passwords. At first I couldn't even get anything to
enter into the password box, although the checkbox and buttons
worked fine. I

Emil


 The logon failure doesn't bother me as much as what the security
department  at my ISP is claimingthat my system and that account
have been compromised. I can't see how...but that's what they claim.


 One more thing on this problem:

 Are there in fact any viruses that can infect Linux systems? I
know about rootkits but I gather they are rare. But the guys at my ISP
are so insistent I am beginning to wonder

Frank


Download and install ALL of the clamav, then let clamscan spend half a
day scanning the whole machine.  Then take any positive results to the
clamav list.



  I have done just That Gene..I'll let it run overnight tonight and
we'll see what happens...if anything...


Frank


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Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[Frank]

On 28/05/15 03:20 PM, John Hasler wrote:

Brad writes:

In any event, you're not obliged to use your ISP's mail service.  With
plenty of other choices out there for email, many of them free, I wonder
why you're putting yourself through this on/off aggravation.


I've been with newsguy.com for years.  I'm very pleased with their
service.




  Thanks for the suggestion John, but I do have several other email 
accounts (including the infamous Googlemail :) )but the thing is much

of my personal mail is handled on the account which was messed up.
Getting around to all the people who know and use that address is a
pain!

Frank


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Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[Frank]

On 28/05/15 04:22 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Thursday 28 May 2015 17:52:33 Frank wrote:

On 28/05/15 12:37 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Thursday 28 May 2015 17:26:31 Darac Marjal wrote:

On Thu, 28 May 2015 11:34:44 -0400
Frank  wrote:

[cut]


  One more thing on this problem:

  Are there in fact any viruses that can infect Linux systems? I
know about rootkits but I gather they are rare. But the guys at my
ISP are so insistent I am beginning to wonder


There are viruses that run on Linux. Wikipedia has a non-exhaustive
list at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware#Viruses

As Wikipedia points out, though, Linux tends to find it easier to close
the vulnerability that allowed the virus to run in the first place.
And, in many cases, vulnerabilities are found BEFORE they're exploited
(compare that with Windows, were someone might find a vulnerability and
start exploiting it and then no-one else might find the same problem
for some years).


Altough there have indeed been proof-of-concept viruses for Linux, I
understood that there had not yet been any in the wild.  But that is
viruses, not other forms of malware.

This problem arises when you open Firefox, not when you boot up?  And it
happens when you open Firefox, even when the computer has been running
for a while?


It's not Firefox we're talking about ..it's Thunderbird and it only
affects one account, even though I have 3 on the same ISP.
No connection with booting - no connection with anything other
than that one account not being able to logon using IMAP.

It's the ISP security guys who are insisting in their words "the account
or perhaps your whole computer is infected".


Yes, sorry.  I meant Thunderbird.  But the questuiosn are still relevant,
since I was thinking of Thunderbird.

Lisi


  No. As is I said the problem is not related to booting in any way. It 
just appeared out of the blue. It now appears they had blocked that 
account because their system (or they) thought/thinks it is/was

infected.  And it's impossible to deal with these guys. One of them
tried to tell me he had a masters degree in Computer Science...to which 
I replied what are you doing handling complaints like this...should you 
be working for Google or somebody of that nature  :)


Frank


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Re: How to boot without GUI

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 28 May 2015 17:56:51 Curt wrote:
> On 2015-05-28, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> >> If you want to boot to the console and start your graphical environment
> >> from there ('startx" and company) you must either disable or uninstall
> >> the display manager IMHO.
> >
> > Can you not just boot into level 1 in the first place if you want to run
> > completely without X?
>
> Runlevel 1 is single-user/minimal mode.

Yes, I know.  But as I (mis?)understood it, the purpose was to do a specific 
piece of administartion with X not running.  For which runlevel 1 would 
hopefully be enough.

Lisi


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Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 28 May 2015 17:52:33 Frank wrote:
> On 28/05/15 12:37 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Thursday 28 May 2015 17:26:31 Darac Marjal wrote:
> >> On Thu, 28 May 2015 11:34:44 -0400
> >> Frank  wrote:
> >>
> >> [cut]
> >>
> >>>  One more thing on this problem:
> >>>
> >>>  Are there in fact any viruses that can infect Linux systems? I
> >>> know about rootkits but I gather they are rare. But the guys at my
> >>> ISP are so insistent I am beginning to wonder
> >>
> >> There are viruses that run on Linux. Wikipedia has a non-exhaustive
> >> list at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware#Viruses
> >>
> >> As Wikipedia points out, though, Linux tends to find it easier to close
> >> the vulnerability that allowed the virus to run in the first place.
> >> And, in many cases, vulnerabilities are found BEFORE they're exploited
> >> (compare that with Windows, were someone might find a vulnerability and
> >> start exploiting it and then no-one else might find the same problem
> >> for some years).
> >
> > Altough there have indeed been proof-of-concept viruses for Linux, I
> > understood that there had not yet been any in the wild.  But that is
> > viruses, not other forms of malware.
> >
> > This problem arises when you open Firefox, not when you boot up?  And it
> > happens when you open Firefox, even when the computer has been running
> > for a while?
>
>It's not Firefox we're talking about ..it's Thunderbird and it only
> affects one account, even though I have 3 on the same ISP.
> No connection with booting - no connection with anything other
> than that one account not being able to logon using IMAP.
>
> It's the ISP security guys who are insisting in their words "the account
> or perhaps your whole computer is infected".

Yes, sorry.  I meant Thunderbird.  But the questuiosn are still relevant, 
since I was thinking of Thunderbird.

Lisi


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Re: How to boot without GUI

[Rick Thomas]

On May 27, 2015, at 1:15 AM, Bret Busby  wrote:

> 
> How do I boot into a text only session, without the GUI being loaded,
> if that is possible, so that I can be able to perform this awkward
> installation?

Two ways that I can think of…
First way:

# as root do the following:
mv /etc/X11/default-display-manager  /etc/X11/default-display-manager.SAVE
echo “/bin/false” >  /etc/X11/default-display-manager 
reboot
# System will come up in text mode.  Do what you need to do,  Then, as root do
mv  /etc/X11/default-display-manager.SAVE  /etc/X11/default-display-manager 
reboot
# System will come up in full graphics mode (assuming the new driver is OK!)


Second way:

boot with kernel command line parameter “text”.
You can do this by interrupting the grub bootloader at the menu stage by
hitting a key before it times out.
Then navigate to the screen where you can edit the kernel command line.
It will be the line that starts with “linux” and ends with “quiet”.
Add “text” at the end.  Then boot.  The system will come up in text mode.
This is a one-time thing, so the next time you reboot, it will come up
in graphics mode.

I’m sorry I can’t provide an exact step-by step for the second way.  I don’t 
have
an x86 system I can diddle with right now.  When I need to do this, I just 
follow
the instructions (usually at the bottom of the screen) and be careful not to do
anything that looks permanent.  It’s pretty straightforward, and if you mess up,
just reboot and you’re back to zero.


Hope this helps!
Rick

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Re: NFS drive uids/gids completely broken- for a little while

[Bob Proulx]

bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
> aha. sounds like my problem. interesting that it's enabled by default.
> i'm assuming that for my rinky-dink set-up with 5 users i don't need it ?

The number of users is not the determinating factor.  It is the number
of groups for any particular user.  There is an array size limit of
only 16 numbers in the underlying structure without it which limits
the number of groups possible per user to 16 or fewer.  So likely you
don't need it.  However that is the normal tested path these days so I
tend not to mess with it.

I would tend to be more concerned that something glitchy is happening
on your physical network connections that you saw something one moment
and then it went away on another moment.  This may be an indicator of
something else happening.  It is actually easier when things fail hard
because then you can get to root cause.  Hard to do that when the
problem goes away.

Bob


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Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[John Hasler]

Brad writes:
> In any event, you're not obliged to use your ISP's mail service.  With
> plenty of other choices out there for email, many of them free, I wonder
> why you're putting yourself through this on/off aggravation.

I've been with newsguy.com for years.  I'm very pleased with their
service.
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Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[Frank]

On 28/05/15 12:55 PM, Brad Rogers wrote:

On Thu, 28 May 2015 11:34:44 -0400
Frank  wrote:

Hello Frank,


Are there in fact any viruses that can infect Linux systems? I know


AIUI, there are a few viruses but, by and large, the exist as "proof of
concept" and have rarely, if ever, been seen in the wild.


about rootkits but I gather they are rare. But the guys at my ISP are
so insistent I am beginning to wonder


Your ISP should know just what little real risk their is;  Most of their
hardware is run on *nix based OS.  What it boils down to is that the
scripts they have don't deal with MacOS well, never mind Linux.  OTOH,
as this affects only one mail account you have with them, I can
understand their attitude.  Unless you can provide *proof* that your
system is not at fault, they're never going to believe you.

In any event, you're not obliged to use your ISP's mail service.  With
plenty of other choices out there for email, many of them free, I wonder
why you're putting yourself through this on/off aggravation.




   That makes two of us :)  See my reply to Brian



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Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 28 May 2015 11:34:44 Frank wrote:
> On 28/05/15 09:21 AM, Frank wrote:
> > On 05/28/2015 02:44 AM, Emil Payne wrote:
> >> On 05/27/2015 10:16 PM, Charlie wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 27 May 2015 21:06:10 -0400 Frank sent:
>  When I went into Thunderbird at mid-day one of my accounts with
>  my ISP Videotron.ca registered a logon failure..despite the fact
>  nothing had changed.
> >>
> >> That's odd. I have 6 gmail and 8 yahoo accounts. Yesterday all six
> >> gmail accounts wanted the passwords reentered. I have thunderbird
> >> set to remember passwords. At first I couldn't even get anything to
> >> enter into the password box, although the checkbox and buttons
> >> worked fine. I
> >>
> >> Emil
> >
> > The logon failure doesn't bother me as much as what the security
> > department  at my ISP is claimingthat my system and that account
> > have been compromised. I can't see how...but that's what they claim.
>
> One more thing on this problem:
>
> Are there in fact any viruses that can infect Linux systems? I
> know about rootkits but I gather they are rare. But the guys at my ISP
> are so insistent I am beginning to wonder
>
> Frank

Download and install ALL of the clamav, then let clamscan spend half a 
day scanning the whole machine.  Then take any positive results to the 
clamav list.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[Frank]

On 28/05/15 01:08 PM, Brian wrote:

On Thu 28 May 2015 at 12:52:33 -0400, Frank wrote:


On 28/05/15 12:37 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Thursday 28 May 2015 17:26:31 Darac Marjal wrote:

On Thu, 28 May 2015 11:34:44 -0400
Frank  wrote:

[cut]


 One more thing on this problem:

 Are there in fact any viruses that can infect Linux systems? I
know about rootkits but I gather they are rare. But the guys at my
ISP are so insistent I am beginning to wonder


There are viruses that run on Linux. Wikipedia has a non-exhaustive
list at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware#Viruses

As Wikipedia points out, though, Linux tends to find it easier to close
the vulnerability that allowed the virus to run in the first place.
And, in many cases, vulnerabilities are found BEFORE they're exploited
(compare that with Windows, were someone might find a vulnerability and
start exploiting it and then no-one else might find the same problem
for some years).


Altough there have indeed been proof-of-concept viruses for Linux, I
understood that there had not yet been any in the wild.  But that is viruses,
not other forms of malware.

This problem arises when you open Firefox, not when you boot up?  And it
happens when you open Firefox, even when the computer has been running for a
while?



   It's not Firefox we're talking about ..it's Thunderbird and it
only affects one account, even though I have 3 on the same ISP.
No connection with booting - no connection with anything other
than that one account not being able to logon using IMAP.

It's the ISP security guys who are insisting in their words "the
account or perhaps your whole computer is infected".


If you are hoping to convince these "ISP security guys" using the power
of reason that neither the account nor the whole computer is infected
you are on a hiding to nothing.





   Yeah, that's the way I'm beginning to feel. It appears they have 
some sort of a problem which they either can't see...or won't acknowledge.

I'm going to try writing directly to their security department
mainly to see what is the reaction. I've gone beyond the point
of hoping they'll fix whatever is wrong.




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Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[Deb]

On 05/28/2015 01:23 PM, John Hasler wrote:

Frank writes:

It's the ISP security guys who are insisting in their words "the
account or perhaps your whole computer is infected".

The only Linux malware in the wild attacks Web sites via vulnerabilities
in things like PHP.  Aside from the difficulty there is no motivation
for creating malware to attack Linux desktops.  There are not enough of
them (and you'd need a version of your malware for every dist) to make
it profitable.  A good piece of Windows malware can turn a million
Windows desktop boxes into bots.  How many Linux bots would the same
effort yield?
That's for profit, but why wouldn't at least a few random amateurs 
create Linux malware for fun and practice? Or is it too difficult for 
the pimples-and-braces crowd?


Deb


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Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[John Hasler]

Frank writes:
> It's the ISP security guys who are insisting in their words "the
> account or perhaps your whole computer is infected".

The only Linux malware in the wild attacks Web sites via vulnerabilities
in things like PHP.  Aside from the difficulty there is no motivation
for creating malware to attack Linux desktops.  There are not enough of
them (and you'd need a version of your malware for every dist) to make
it profitable.  A good piece of Windows malware can turn a million
Windows desktop boxes into bots.  How many Linux bots would the same
effort yield?
-- 
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Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[Curt]

On 2015-05-28, Frank  wrote:
>
>It's not Firefox we're talking about ..it's Thunderbird and it only 
> affects one account, even though I have 3 on the same ISP.
> No connection with booting - no connection with anything other
> than that one account not being able to logon using IMAP.
>

Have you tried moving the hidden (dotfile) Thunderbird configuration
directory out of the way (renamed back up) and seeing if the problem
goes away with a fresh config (maybe something got corrupted in there).

A compromised mail account would probably be sending loads of spam,
wouldn't it?  That doesn't seem to be the case, as your ISP remains
silent on the point.


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Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[Brian]

On Thu 28 May 2015 at 12:52:33 -0400, Frank wrote:

> On 28/05/15 12:37 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >On Thursday 28 May 2015 17:26:31 Darac Marjal wrote:
> >>On Thu, 28 May 2015 11:34:44 -0400
> >>Frank  wrote:
> >>
> >>[cut]
> >>
> >>> One more thing on this problem:
> >>>
> >>> Are there in fact any viruses that can infect Linux systems? I
> >>>know about rootkits but I gather they are rare. But the guys at my
> >>>ISP are so insistent I am beginning to wonder
> >>
> >>There are viruses that run on Linux. Wikipedia has a non-exhaustive
> >>list at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware#Viruses
> >>
> >>As Wikipedia points out, though, Linux tends to find it easier to close
> >>the vulnerability that allowed the virus to run in the first place.
> >>And, in many cases, vulnerabilities are found BEFORE they're exploited
> >>(compare that with Windows, were someone might find a vulnerability and
> >>start exploiting it and then no-one else might find the same problem
> >>for some years).
> >
> >Altough there have indeed been proof-of-concept viruses for Linux, I
> >understood that there had not yet been any in the wild.  But that is viruses,
> >not other forms of malware.
> >
> >This problem arises when you open Firefox, not when you boot up?  And it
> >happens when you open Firefox, even when the computer has been running for a
> >while?
> 
> 
>   It's not Firefox we're talking about ..it's Thunderbird and it
> only affects one account, even though I have 3 on the same ISP.
> No connection with booting - no connection with anything other
> than that one account not being able to logon using IMAP.
> 
> It's the ISP security guys who are insisting in their words "the
> account or perhaps your whole computer is infected".

If you are hoping to convince these "ISP security guys" using the power
of reason that neither the account nor the whole computer is infected
you are on a hiding to nothing.


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Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[Brad Rogers]

On Thu, 28 May 2015 11:34:44 -0400
Frank  wrote:

Hello Frank,

>Are there in fact any viruses that can infect Linux systems? I know 

AIUI, there are a few viruses but, by and large, the exist as "proof of
concept" and have rarely, if ever, been seen in the wild.

>about rootkits but I gather they are rare. But the guys at my ISP are
>so insistent I am beginning to wonder

Your ISP should know just what little real risk their is;  Most of their
hardware is run on *nix based OS.  What it boils down to is that the
scripts they have don't deal with MacOS well, never mind Linux.  OTOH,
as this affects only one mail account you have with them, I can
understand their attitude.  Unless you can provide *proof* that your
system is not at fault, they're never going to believe you.

In any event, you're not obliged to use your ISP's mail service.  With
plenty of other choices out there for email, many of them free, I wonder
why you're putting yourself through this on/off aggravation.

-- 
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/ _)radnever immediately apparent"
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Re: How to boot without GUI

[Curt]

On 2015-05-28, Lisi Reisz  wrote:

>> If you want to boot to the console and start your graphical environment
>> from there ('startx" and company) you must either disable or uninstall
>> the display manager IMHO.
>
> Can you not just boot into level 1 in the first place if you want to run 
> completely without X?
>

Runlevel 1 is single-user/minimal mode.


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Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[Frank]

On 28/05/15 12:37 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Thursday 28 May 2015 17:26:31 Darac Marjal wrote:

On Thu, 28 May 2015 11:34:44 -0400
Frank  wrote:

[cut]


 One more thing on this problem:

 Are there in fact any viruses that can infect Linux systems? I
know about rootkits but I gather they are rare. But the guys at my
ISP are so insistent I am beginning to wonder


There are viruses that run on Linux. Wikipedia has a non-exhaustive
list at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware#Viruses

As Wikipedia points out, though, Linux tends to find it easier to close
the vulnerability that allowed the virus to run in the first place.
And, in many cases, vulnerabilities are found BEFORE they're exploited
(compare that with Windows, were someone might find a vulnerability and
start exploiting it and then no-one else might find the same problem
for some years).


Altough there have indeed been proof-of-concept viruses for Linux, I
understood that there had not yet been any in the wild.  But that is viruses,
not other forms of malware.

This problem arises when you open Firefox, not when you boot up?  And it
happens when you open Firefox, even when the computer has been running for a
while?



  It's not Firefox we're talking about ..it's Thunderbird and it only 
affects one account, even though I have 3 on the same ISP.

No connection with booting - no connection with anything other
than that one account not being able to logon using IMAP.

It's the ISP security guys who are insisting in their words "the account 
or perhaps your whole computer is infected".


Frank






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Re: DHCPv6 and DDNS

[Philippe Clérié]

.
On May 27, 2015 3:21 PM, Bob Proulx  wrote:
>
> Philippe Clérié wrote: 
> > So far I have not seen any trace of an attempt by the DHCPv6 server to 
> > update the DNS. 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance for any suggestion... 
>
> Does the dhcp *server* update dynamic dns?  I always thougth it was 
> the client that made the dynamic dns update.  I didn't look and this 
> is simply "any suggestion" so take this with that consideration but I 
> think you would want the dhcpv6 client to make the dynamic dns update. 
> That is probably the difference.  I expect your dhcp clients are doing 
> the dynamic dns update for ipv4 but not for ipv6.  I would check the 
> client config. 
>
> Bob 

The DNS server will only accept updates from the DHCP servers.

The v4 server definitely does the updates. I can the transactions in the logs.

The v6 server is similarly configured.


The trouble with common sense is that it is so uncommon

Re: Printer prints ppd-File

[Janis Hamme]

/etc/cups/ppd/OKI_B430.ppd: PPD file, version "4.3"

But I have found a solution. I downloaded the MacOS driver, extracted
the MacOS PPD file from the .dmg archive and pasted some updated
procedures into the Linux PPD. Seems to work so far ...

Am 28.05.2015 um 16:39 schrieb Brian:
> On Thu 28 May 2015 at 00:35:29 +0200, Janis Hamme wrote:
>
> When you set up the print queue you would have given a location and name
> for the PPD file. Please post the output of
>
>   file 
>
>


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Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 28 May 2015 17:26:31 Darac Marjal wrote:
> On Thu, 28 May 2015 11:34:44 -0400
> Frank  wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > One more thing on this problem:
> >
> > Are there in fact any viruses that can infect Linux systems? I
> > know about rootkits but I gather they are rare. But the guys at my
> > ISP are so insistent I am beginning to wonder
>
> There are viruses that run on Linux. Wikipedia has a non-exhaustive
> list at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware#Viruses
>
> As Wikipedia points out, though, Linux tends to find it easier to close
> the vulnerability that allowed the virus to run in the first place.
> And, in many cases, vulnerabilities are found BEFORE they're exploited
> (compare that with Windows, were someone might find a vulnerability and
> start exploiting it and then no-one else might find the same problem
> for some years).

Altough there have indeed been proof-of-concept viruses for Linux, I 
understood that there had not yet been any in the wild.  But that is viruses, 
not other forms of malware.

This problem arises when you open Firefox, not when you boot up?  And it 
happens when you open Firefox, even when the computer has been running for a 
while?

Lisi


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Re: How to boot without GUI

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 28 May 2015 16:46:27 Curt wrote:
> On 2015-05-27, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> >> If you use gdm or similar I think that usually just leads to the display
> >> manager restarting.
> >
> > Yes, that is my experience.  It doesn't get rid of X.
> >
> > Lisi
>
> If you want to boot to the console and start your graphical environment
> from there ('startx" and company) you must either disable or uninstall
> the display manager IMHO.

Can you not just boot into level 1 in the first place if you want to run 
completely without X?

Lisi


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Re: Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[Darac Marjal]

On Thu, 28 May 2015 11:34:44 -0400
Frank  wrote:

[cut]
> 
> One more thing on this problem:
> 
> Are there in fact any viruses that can infect Linux systems? I
> know about rootkits but I gather they are rare. But the guys at my
> ISP are so insistent I am beginning to wonder

There are viruses that run on Linux. Wikipedia has a non-exhaustive
list at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware#Viruses

As Wikipedia points out, though, Linux tends to find it easier to close
the vulnerability that allowed the virus to run in the first place.
And, in many cases, vulnerabilities are found BEFORE they're exploited
(compare that with Windows, were someone might find a vulnerability and
start exploiting it and then no-one else might find the same problem
for some years).

> 
> Frank
> 
> 


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Re: How to boot without GUI

[Curt]

On 2015-05-27, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
>>
>> If you use gdm or similar I think that usually just leads to the display
>> manager restarting.
>
> Yes, that is my experience.  It doesn't get rid of X.
>
> Lisi

If you want to boot to the console and start your graphical environment
from there ('startx" and company) you must either disable or uninstall 
the display manager IMHO.


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Viruses and rootkits WAS Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[Frank]

On 28/05/15 09:21 AM, Frank wrote:

On 05/28/2015 02:44 AM, Emil Payne wrote:

On 05/27/2015 10:16 PM, Charlie wrote:

On Wed, 27 May 2015 21:06:10 -0400 Frank sent:


When I went into Thunderbird at mid-day one of my accounts with my
ISP Videotron.ca registered a logon failure..despite the fact nothing
had changed.





That's odd. I have 6 gmail and 8 yahoo accounts. Yesterday all six gmail
accounts wanted the passwords reentered. I have thunderbird set to
remember passwords. At first I couldn't even get anything to enter into
the password box, although the checkbox and buttons worked fine. I



Emil



The logon failure doesn't bother me as much as what the security
department  at my ISP is claimingthat my system and that account
have been compromised. I can't see how...but that's what they claim.








   One more thing on this problem:

   Are there in fact any viruses that can infect Linux systems? I know 
about rootkits but I gather they are rare. But the guys at my ISP are

so insistent I am beginning to wonder

Frank


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Re: Netinst with preseed

[Brian]

On Wed 27 May 2015 at 08:06:33 -0700, Charles Chambers wrote:

> The objective is a unattended USB install with an edittable preseed.cfg,
> and optionally additional packages and firmware files included on the
> media.  Windows does it with a customizable unattended.txt (I think) and
> a system integration tool to select the installation options.

The original mail for this thread is at

   https://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2015/05/msg00603.html

The question appears very clear

   > Anyone ever started from the netinst ISO image and added a preseed.cfg 
file? 

For some reason or other we have moved onto considering hd-media images.

The answer to the question above is "yes". It can involve adding a
partition to a thumb drive, formatting it with mkfs.vfat, putting the
preseed file etc  on it and booting with file=/mnt/preseed.cfg.


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Re: Printer prints ppd-File

[Brian]

On Thu 28 May 2015 at 00:35:29 +0200, Janis Hamme wrote:

> I'm sorry, this mail was actually intended for the debian-user-german
> list. I'll provide a translation below:
> 
> I've set up a printer (OKI-B430d) on Jessie using a ppd-file directly
> provided by the manufacturer
> (http://www.oki.de/support/printer/printer-drivers/detail.aspx?prodid=tcm:90-3480&driverid=tcm:90-66088-16).
> 
> Unfortunately, the printer prints excerpts of the ppd-file instead the
> proper document in about 50% of all print jobs. There is no pattern
> related to specific documents or applications. Some excerpts the printer
> prints instead the document:
> 
> >
> - 
>
> 
> > /OK@setpagedevice_sadj where
> {pop}{
>   
> 
> > /OK@setpag
> 
> > Date: Dec. 27, 2005  Edt: 03
> > %-
> 
> > ocedure ver 1.0
> 
> I have no clue why that happens. Any ideas?

When you set up the print queue you would have given a location and name
for the PPD file. Please post the output of

  file 


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Re: weird problem with one mail account in Thunderbird....ISP or what ?

[Frank]

On 05/28/2015 02:44 AM, Emil Payne wrote:

On 05/27/2015 10:16 PM, Charlie wrote:

On Wed, 27 May 2015 21:06:10 -0400 Frank sent:


When I went into Thunderbird at mid-day one of my accounts with my
ISP Videotron.ca registered a logon failure..despite the fact nothing
had changed.


I have no answer. However, with my ISP I periodically have the same
problem. I attempt to log on with claws-mail, without changing anything,
no update, no upgrade to the system. No tinkering, nothing at all and of
the two accounts one gives me this error message:




Charlie


That's odd. I have 6 gmail and 8 yahoo accounts. Yesterday all six gmail
accounts wanted the passwords reentered. I have thunderbird set to
remember passwords. At first I couldn't even get anything to enter into
the password box, although the checkbox and buttons worked fine. I
restarted my computer and it immediately stopped, saying no keyboard
found, even though pushing F1 continued booting and ENTER worked at the
grub menu. Once booted in I restarted thunderbird and re-entered the
passwords as saved. Everything works fine now. At the time I had put it
down to intermittent power outages due to t-storms, but now I wonder.

Emil



   The logon failure doesn't bother me as much as what the security 
department  at my ISP is claimingthat my system and that account

have been compromised. I can't see how...but that's what they claim.

The weird thing is if, while I am on the phone with them they change the
password for that account, and I enter it into Thunderbird, the account
works fine...until I close Thunderbird and re-open it. Then no password
will be accepted by Thunderbird and we are back at square one. I'm 
guessing their system catches the IMAP logon and blocks it, because as

we know my system is infested with malware and viruses.

It's all very frustrating.





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Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

[Deb]

On 05/28/2015 01:41 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:

On Wed, 27 May 2015, Deb wrote:



On 27/05/15 05:21 PM, deloptes wrote:

Patrick Bartek wrote:


Researching a laptop purchase (within the next 6 months or so) to
replace my aging Desktop (1 to 8.5 years depending on which
parts).  Going to abandoned the Big Box forever.  Need to be very
portable in the next year or two. Two questions to begin:

1. Many laptops seem to only be able to turn off Secure Boot
through the OS, Windows 8.x, or so I've researched.  However, I've
read some makes (Asus, Lenovo, Dell and HP) can do it directly
through "BIOS" without needing to boot Windows?  True?  Any others?

I recently replaced my old notebook Dell D520 for Dell E5440 ( 8GB
RAM Intel i5 cpu).
Everything is working great. Later models like E7*** use the
DisplayLink technology for docking station and do not work with
Linux at all.

Secure Boot and all other options can be (de)activated/configured
in the BIOS GUI.


2. How UEFI compatible is Debian Wheezy?  What I'm running on the
Desktop. Or is Jessie the better choice.  Or something else
entirely?  Except Ubuntu variants (Hate it!).  I don't want to run
in Legacy mode for future compatibility.  I won't be installing a
desktop, just a window manager. Probably Openbox.

I did not test UEFI, but should be supported and working.

Other option I considered was HP ... I was looking for <1000€
replacement/solution, but somehow I liked Dell over HP.

regards



I just want to add that my Jessie 8.0 is fully UEFI-compatible and
boots UEFI with zero issues. So did the netinstaller. But I don't
remember whether I've ever seen Wheezy installed for UEFI boot.

Figured Jessie was, just NOT Secure Boot compatible.  Have read
some more and Wheezy can do UEFI, too, if you use Expert mode in the
installer and set up the HD with a GPT.

B


No, the "secure boot disabled" warning was a persistent aspect of Wheezy 
boots, and Jessie doesn't give that error message.




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RE: debian-user-digest Digest V2015 #603

["Larry Cooper"]

RE: debian-user-digest Digest V2015 #604

["Larry Cooper"]

Re: Broadcom TG3 network drops, cannot recover without reboot

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Wed, May 27, 2015, at 13:06, Toan Pham wrote:
> > Alternatively, try to get yourself an Intel NIC that works with the igb
> > driver (don't get an Intel NIC that needs the e1000e driver) to replace
> > the hardlock-prone bcm5720 + tg3 combination.
> 
> I ended up with an intel NIC instead, but with the e1000e driver.
> What's wrong with the e1000e driver by the way, please update.

It is not that the NICs that need e1000e are "bad news".  It is that
they're outdated and less capable than the more recent Intel designs
that use the igb driver (or igbx, for 10GbE).

Also there is certainly something very wrong with any motherboard of
recent design that uses an outdated NIC.

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Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

[Steve McIntyre]

nemomm...@gmail.com wrote:
>On Wed, 27 May 2015, Deb wrote:
>
>> I just want to add that my Jessie 8.0 is fully UEFI-compatible and
>> boots UEFI with zero issues. So did the netinstaller. But I don't
>> remember whether I've ever seen Wheezy installed for UEFI boot.
>
>Figured Jessie was, just NOT Secure Boot compatible.  Have read
>some more and Wheezy can do UEFI, too, if you use Expert mode in the
>installer and set up the HD with a GPT.

You're over-complicating things, even. Wheezy should work just fine
for UEFI following the normal installation workflow, no need for
Expert mode. Jessie is better in terms of a number of bug fixes and
better support in the underlying tools like grub-efi, that's all.

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Re: Broadcom TG3 network drops, cannot recover without reboot

[Justin Catterall]

> On 27 May 2015, at 17:06, Toan Pham  wrote:
> 
> Justin,
> 
> 
> I've observed a similar symptom on the bcm5762 chip, not the 5720, and
> not sure if the bugs they are related.  I've filed a bug report
> (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1447664), and
> actively working with Broadcom's engineering team to get this bug
> resolved.  They are running multiple test cases but could not get this
> bug to surface in a short amount of time.
> 
>> In the mean time I've made a bash-script to rmmod and modprobe as 
>> appropriate. I'll set a cron job to ping a couple of other servers on the 
>> LAN and execute the script and restart networking should the pings fail.
> 
> This is a patch, not a fix.  Have you tested on kernel 4.0?

I've not tested with 4.0. This machine needs to be rock solid, it will be 
Debian stable all the way, 4.x will only get on this machine when stable is 
updated to that kernel.


> Alternatively, try to get yourself an Intel NIC that works with the igb
>> driver (don't get an Intel NIC that needs the e1000e driver) to replace
>> the hardlock-prone bcm5720 + tg3 combination.
> 
> I ended up with an intel NIC instead, but with the e1000e driver.
> What's wrong with the e1000e driver by the way, please update.  Thank
> you

You'll have to hope Henrique is still following this, I don't have an answer.

Just thinking out-loud here: I've got an identical server with FreeNAS 
installed, that's never disappeared off the network. Also I've had a server for 
about 5 years at home with the same on-board NIC, (different mobo), that's 
never locked up either, but I was able to force it to lock up with 
"/etc/init.d/networking restart". It seems that, at home at least, I've been 
fortunate so far. WRT to the FreeNAS, I have no idea how that's driving the 
NIC, listing the modules there doesn't show anything I recognise, and I've 
minimal experience with *BSD.

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Re: Backup services and Debian

[Konstantinos Pachnis]

Hi Peter,

On 26-05-2015, Petter Adsen wrote:
> I'm still messing with trying to get a good backup routine, and I'm
> (slowly) coming to the conclusion that other people are better at it
> than I am, and I need a way to store data remotely anyway.
> 
> Right now, I'm testing AltDrive on an Ubuntu machine. They have a Java
> client (which I'm not too happy about) that seems to work well. I've
> upgraded my outgoing bandwidth to be better suited to doing backups
> to a remote destination. I haven't tested the client with Debian yet,
> as you can only run it on one machine with the service you can try for
> free for one month.
> 
> One thing I miss is the ability to do backups of NFS-mounted file
> systems. Neither do I like the dependence upon Java. Apart from that,
> it seems to work quite well. It does version control, handles
> encryption locally with keys I manage myself, and I can use as much
> space as I need. It wouldn't cost any more than using Dropbox. There is
> also a command line interface, apparently, although it seems very basic.
> 
> Does anyone here have any experience with this or similar services that
> work well with Debian? Do any of them have the ability to do backups of
> network file systems, so that I won't need to run the client on several
> machines? This could be especially important to me soon, as I'm
> considering to buy a small NAS, and I'm unlikely to find a client that
> will run locally on that.
> 
> That said, I would be really, really happy if the client was open
> source. Another thing that would be nice is if they have servers in
> Europe, so that I wouldn't need to push the data back and forth across
> the Atlantic.
> 
> I have found a lng list of backup providers on Wikipedia, but it
> would take forever to research each and every one of them to find out
> which ones are suited to my purpose and find other people's experiences
> with them, which is why I'm asking here, in a hope to narrow it down to
> just a few.
> 
> Any insights and experiences with this or equivalent services would be
> much appreciated. Relevant advice, the same.
> 
> Petter
> 
> -- 
> "I'm ionized"
> "Are you sure?"
> "I'm positive."

If you are looking for hosted backups have a look at tarsnap[1].

You could also setup your own server and use a tool like attic[2] or
obnam[3] to backup your data via SSH, something that will be useful in
your NAS scenario.  Both tools support encryption.

1. https://www.tarsnap.com/
2. https://attic-backup.org/
3. http://obnam.org/

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Re: Backup services and Debian

[Konstantinos Pachnis]

On 26-05-2015, Petter Adsen wrote:
> I'm still messing with trying to get a good backup routine, and I'm
> (slowly) coming to the conclusion that other people are better at it
> than I am, and I need a way to store data remotely anyway.
> 
> Right now, I'm testing AltDrive on an Ubuntu machine. They have a Java
> client (which I'm not too happy about) that seems to work well. I've
> upgraded my outgoing bandwidth to be better suited to doing backups
> to a remote destination. I haven't tested the client with Debian yet,
> as you can only run it on one machine with the service you can try for
> free for one month.
> 
> One thing I miss is the ability to do backups of NFS-mounted file
> systems. Neither do I like the dependence upon Java. Apart from that,
> it seems to work quite well. It does version control, handles
> encryption locally with keys I manage myself, and I can use as much
> space as I need. It wouldn't cost any more than using Dropbox. There is
> also a command line interface, apparently, although it seems very basic.
> 
> Does anyone here have any experience with this or similar services that
> work well with Debian? Do any of them have the ability to do backups of
> network file systems, so that I won't need to run the client on several
> machines? This could be especially important to me soon, as I'm
> considering to buy a small NAS, and I'm unlikely to find a client that
> will run locally on that.
> 
> That said, I would be really, really happy if the client was open
> source. Another thing that would be nice is if they have servers in
> Europe, so that I wouldn't need to push the data back and forth across
> the Atlantic.
> 
> I have found a lng list of backup providers on Wikipedia, but it
> would take forever to research each and every one of them to find out
> which ones are suited to my purpose and find other people's experiences
> with them, which is why I'm asking here, in a hope to narrow it down to
> just a few.
> 
> Any insights and experiences with this or equivalent services would be
> much appreciated. Relevant advice, the same.
> 
> Petter
> 
> -- 
> "I'm ionized"
> "Are you sure?"
> "I'm positive."

I forgot to mention Cyphertite[1], also open source.

1. https://www.cyphertite.com/


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