Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question

2015-06-04 Thread German
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 15:53:20 -0500
John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:

 German writes:
  I still think that it is nothing to do with proxies. Might that be
  that my computer name is filtered or as I said earlier the whole
  linux system is subject to filtering?
 
 Tell us what this forum is so that we can try it.

Sorry, but this is a private information. That breaks my privacy


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Re: Old Computers

2015-06-04 Thread Jose Martinez



On 06/03/2015 04:48 PM, John Hasler wrote:

Renaud writes:

Which certainly taught you the hard way to draw one (or several)
diagonal pencil or ink lines across the top of your card deck...

Or to number your cards so that you could simply run a scrambled deck
through the card sorter.


That's cheatingyou have to hand sort those things!!


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Broadcom b43 driver

2015-06-04 Thread Jose Martinez
Problem fixed... Rebooting is a wondrous thing!!  I ended up 
re-installing the original jessie kernel to get rid of my bull in the 
china shop hacking, then re-installed the firmware-b43-installer.  Then 
with things back the way they should be, I rebootedLife is good, 
wifi is on the air.


I really shouldn't be messing around with things when I don't know what 
I'm doing:-!



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Re: Latest version of gettext not run

2015-06-04 Thread Martin Read

On 05/06/15 00:27, Tomas Nordin wrote:

I have forced installed latest version of gettext:

$ dpkg --list gettext
...
ii  gettext 0.19.3-2~bpo70 i386   GNU ...

but the previous version is run by calls:

$ gettext --version
gettext (GNU gettext-runtime) 0.18.1
...

What do I do to fix this?


What does
$ which gettext
say?

If it doesn't say /usr/bin/gettext, then you have an extra copy of 
gettext somewhere in your PATH that is not /usr/bin.



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Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question

2015-06-04 Thread German
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 15:51:08 -0500
John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:

 German writes:
  Right, but already tried to post through proxy. And now I have found
  list of IP proxy which can be configured through browser. I still
  have the same message that I can't post. I doubt that they know
  this proxy address, it is not free web based address.
 
 If you can find that list so can they.

I still doubt it.


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Re: stretch/Xfce: some strings now using larger font

2015-06-04 Thread Mike Kupfer
Sven Hartge wrote:

 Pinning the DPI setting in AppearanceFonts to
 a fixed value instead of letting it auto detect the value fixed that for
 me.

Yes, that worked for me, too.  Thanks!

mike


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Re: stretch/Xfce: some strings now using larger font

2015-06-04 Thread Sven Hartge
Mike Kupfer m.kup...@acm.org wrote:
 Sven Hartge wrote:

 Just for fun: could you check with
 
   xdpyinfo | grep resolution
 
 what DPI value is reported on your system and in the VM?

 Both report 96x96 dots per inch.

Interesting. Strange. But ... oh well, the work-around works.

Grüße,
Sven.

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Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question

2015-06-04 Thread John Hasler
German writes:
 I still think that it is nothing to do with proxies. Might that be
 that my computer name is filtered or as I said earlier the whole linux
 system is subject to filtering?

Tell us what this forum is so that we can try it.
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Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question

2015-06-04 Thread Reco
 Hi.

On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 15:37:12 -0400
German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:

I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got
banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another
account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do
some conversations with a members with which I have enjoyed
talking. I successfully created account with web proxy, could
logging in, but can't post on the message board. The message I
got was that I am not permitted to post. So, I believe that the
server can identify me somehow. Any ideas what can be done in
this situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of your
insights. 
   
   It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow
   postings from it. 
  
  Or it's possible that the proxy in question sends that funny
  X-Forwarded-For HTTP header which contains the original IP *and* the
  message board checks it too.
 
 I still think that it is nothing to do with proxies. Might that be that
 my computer name is filtered or as I said earlier the whole linux
 system is subject to filtering?

It's possible. Every time you use a browser you're telling everyone
interested that you're using Linux. It's a part of User-Agent string.
And it's easy to change (using privoxy on your own PC) regardless of
the browser you're using.

Reco


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Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question

2015-06-04 Thread German
On Fri, 5 Jun 2015 00:05:57 +0300
Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi.
 
 On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 15:37:12 -0400
 German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I
 got banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create
 another account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and
 continue to do some conversations with a members with which I
 have enjoyed talking. I successfully created account with web
 proxy, could logging in, but can't post on the message board.
 The message I got was that I am not permitted to post. So, I
 believe that the server can identify me somehow. Any ideas
 what can be done in this situation so I can post? Thank so
 much for all of your insights. 

It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow
postings from it. 
   
   Or it's possible that the proxy in question sends that funny
   X-Forwarded-For HTTP header which contains the original IP *and*
   the message board checks it too.
  
  I still think that it is nothing to do with proxies. Might that be
  that my computer name is filtered or as I said earlier the whole
  linux system is subject to filtering?
 
 It's possible. Every time you use a browser you're telling everyone
 interested that you're using Linux. It's a part of User-Agent string.
 And it's easy to change (using privoxy on your own PC) regardless of
 the browser you're using.
 
 Reco
 
 

Oh thanks, that's something. What's this privoxy is?


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Re: stretch/Xfce: some strings now using larger font

2015-06-04 Thread Sven Hartge
On 05.06.2015 00:24, Mike Kupfer wrote:

 Pinning the DPI setting in AppearanceFonts to a fixed value
 instead of letting it auto detect the value fixed that for me.

 Yes, that worked for me, too.  Thanks!

Just for fun: could you check with

  xdpyinfo | grep resolution

what DPI value is reported on your system and in the VM?

Grüße,
Sven.



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Broadcom b43 drivers

2015-06-04 Thread Jose Martinez

OK, I probably have my system all messed up.  Here's the sequence of events:

   Discovered errors with the nouveau driver (I'm using NVIDIA GeForce
   7130 chipset) and did some research, nvidia-detect recommended the
   legacy 304xx driver, so I followed all the instructions on the wiki
   for installing said driver.  This broke the system.  X would not
   start, I have only command line.

   Not being really up to speed on everything needed to fix the system,
   and having tried several thing to no avail, I boot to rescue mode,
   using the installer environment so that previous root is not
   mounted.  I deleted everything, except /root and /home, wherein I
   have data I do not want to lose, in order to start with a basically
   clean slate.

   I download and burn the jessie net-install CD and boot to that and
   install jessie.

   My broadcom wireless (using the BC4321 AG chipset) will not come
   up.  This is not unexpected, there is no firmware installed as of
   yet for that NIC.

   I follow all of the instructions on wiki for obtaining the firmware
   and installing it to bring the card up (which worked in a previous
   incarnation of the system).  The card still will not come up.

   I pulled out the old driver I was using which I got from broadcom,
   and had installed it in the past to get everything working.  I
   attempted to install it using the instructions provided with the
   driver (which had worked in the past). The card still will not come up.

   I do an lspci | grep Network command and the controller does show up
   (03:00.0).

What the devil am I doing wrong, and how do I get my wifi adapter 
back??  Note that I had used the firmware-b43-installer package in a 
past jessie incarnation and it worked great.



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Re: stretch/Xfce: some strings now using larger font

2015-06-04 Thread Mike Kupfer
Mike Kupfer wrote:

 Last night I updated my stretch VM (VirtualBox), and I now see larger
 characters in several places, including
 
 - xfwm4 titlebar
 - labels in the Xfce window buttons applet
 - Xfce application menu
 - Xfce logout dialog
[...]
 The VM was previously updated on June 1st.  It's not obvious to me from
 looking at last night's list of updated/new packages what would be
 causing this.

Someone at $DAYJOB reported a similar problem, which he tied to an
upgrade from the VirtualBox 4.3.26 Guest Additions to 4.3.28.  And that
upgrade was part of last night's update list.

I haven't yet tried reverting to the 4.3.26 Guest Additions, but that
seems likely to be where the problem is.

mike


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Re: stretch/Xfce: some strings now using larger font

2015-06-04 Thread Mike Kupfer
Sven Hartge wrote:

 Just for fun: could you check with
 
   xdpyinfo | grep resolution
 
 what DPI value is reported on your system and in the VM?

Both report 96x96 dots per inch.

mike


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Broadcom b43 Drivers

2015-06-04 Thread Jose Martinez
I forgot to mention in my last post, when I attempted to install the old 
driver from broadcom which I have used before, I get the message:


   insmod: ERROR: could not insert module wl.ko: Invalid module format

This has not happened in the past, it just installed and worked fine.]

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Latest version of gettext not run

2015-06-04 Thread Tomas Nordin
Hi

$ uname -a
Linux debian 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.65-1+deb7u2 i686
GNU/Linux

I have forced installed latest version of gettext:

$ dpkg --list gettext
...
ii  gettext 0.19.3-2~bpo70 i386   GNU ...

but the previous version is run by calls:

$ gettext --version
gettext (GNU gettext-runtime) 0.18.1
...

What do I do to fix this?

Thanks
/
Tomas





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Re: pendrive permissions

2015-06-04 Thread Selim T . Erdoğan
On Wed, Jun 03, 2015 at 04:20:25PM +0200, Pol Hallen wrote:
 Hi all :-)
 
 I use debian testing with mate desktop. How can I handles pendrive
 permissions? When I put in a pendrive, caja (mate window manager) can't
 mount it with this error message unable to mount. Not authorized to perform
 operation.
 
 Where mate handles usb permissions?

When I put in a usb drive, if I watch the logs, I see something about 
udisksd mounting it.  That's in the udisks2 package.  Is that installed?

Also, a machine I used today was mounting usb drives but the owner would 
be set to root, so a non-root user wasn't allowed to write.  Fixed it by 
commenting out the usb-related lines in /etc/fstab.  (I don't know why 
they were there, but probably something left over from when I installed 
testing from a usb stick a few months ago.)


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Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question

2015-06-04 Thread Reco
 Hi.

On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 17:36:01 -0400
German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:

  I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I
  got banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create
  another account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and
  continue to do some conversations with a members with which I
  have enjoyed talking. I successfully created account with web
  proxy, could logging in, but can't post on the message board.
  The message I got was that I am not permitted to post. So, I
  believe that the server can identify me somehow. Any ideas
  what can be done in this situation so I can post? Thank so
  much for all of your insights. 
 
 It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow
 postings from it. 

Or it's possible that the proxy in question sends that funny
X-Forwarded-For HTTP header which contains the original IP *and*
the message board checks it too.
   
   I still think that it is nothing to do with proxies. Might that be
   that my computer name is filtered or as I said earlier the whole
   linux system is subject to filtering?
  
  It's possible. Every time you use a browser you're telling everyone
  interested that you're using Linux. It's a part of User-Agent string.
  And it's easy to change (using privoxy on your own PC) regardless of
  the browser you're using.
  
  Reco
  
  
 
 Oh thanks, that's something. What's this privoxy is?

You're joking, right? Ok, I'll play along.

apt-get install privoxy -y

x-www-browser /usr/share/doc/privoxy/index.html

Run first command as root, the second as a normal user.

Reco


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Re: Old Computers

2015-06-04 Thread Jose Martinez



On 06/03/2015 09:55 AM, Mike McClain wrote:

On Tue, Jun 02, 2015 at 07:04:13PM -0500, Jose Martinez wrote:

And I will probably not use these system(s) on line much if any at
all.  So most of the security issues will fixed or not will not
really be a problem in this situation.

I see I've sparked a pretty good discussion on the list.  I sure
appreciate all the advice/information it will come in very handy
when I actually have the systems in hand.
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If you need linux on a 386 that's where I started with DosLinux.
I still have a copy if you're interested. As I recall no Xwindows just
command line.
Mike
--
Why fit in when you can stand out?
 - Dr. Seuss
I may take you up on that, depending on what I end up with. Hopefully, 
I'll have at least one motherboard with a pentium class chipset.  But, 
still, it might be interesting to get even the older ones up, just for 
laughs.






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Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question

2015-06-04 Thread German
On Fri, 5 Jun 2015 00:43:51 +0300
Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi.
 
 On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 17:36:01 -0400
 German gentger...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   I had some discussion on some message board. After a
   while I got banned for no obvious reason. So I have
   decided to create another account with a free proxy,
   cleaned my cookies and continue to do some conversations
   with a members with which I have enjoyed talking. I
   successfully created account with web proxy, could
   logging in, but can't post on the message board. The
   message I got was that I am not permitted to post. So, I
   believe that the server can identify me somehow. Any
   ideas what can be done in this situation so I can post?
   Thank so much for all of your insights. 
  
  It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't
  allow postings from it. 
 
 Or it's possible that the proxy in question sends that funny
 X-Forwarded-For HTTP header which contains the original IP
 *and* the message board checks it too.

I still think that it is nothing to do with proxies. Might that
be that my computer name is filtered or as I said earlier the
whole linux system is subject to filtering?
   
   It's possible. Every time you use a browser you're telling
   everyone interested that you're using Linux. It's a part of
   User-Agent string. And it's easy to change (using privoxy on your
   own PC) regardless of the browser you're using.
   
   Reco
   
   
  
  Oh thanks, that's something. What's this privoxy is?
 
 You're joking, right? Ok, I'll play along.
 
 apt-get install privoxy -y
 
 x-www-browser /usr/share/doc/privoxy/index.html
 
 Run first command as root, the second as a normal user.
 
 Reco
 
 

No, I am not joking and thank you. I am not as linux computer savvy as
you. I think I'll try your suggestion.


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32to64 decision

2015-06-04 Thread Mailing Lists
i have an old small office server providing dhcp/dns/squid/custom cyrus
debs/postfix/samba services which at the time of lenny did not have enough
ram to choose the 64bit version.
now that i've managed to get more ram into it i'd like to migrate it to
64bit. nothing really requires 64bit but rather i feel more peace of mind
knowing i'm getting rid of the last 32bit box.

which path should i choose:

wheezy32  wheezy64  jessie64
OR
wheezy32  jessie32  jessie64?

which one should be easier?

I previously did a wheezy32  wheezy64 for it's backup box and went ok,
even if there is no comprehensive updated howto documentation available (or
wasn't I able to find it, if it exists). i am wondering if jessie 32to64 is
anyway smoother than wheezy 32to64.

tia


Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question

2015-06-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 04 June 2015 20:34:19 German wrote:
 On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 20:02:34 +0100

 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
  On Thu 04 Jun 2015 at 13:21:09 -0400, German wrote:
   I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got
   banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another
   account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do
   some conversations with a members with which I have enjoyed
   talking. I successfully created account with web proxy, could
   logging in, but can't post on the message board. The message I got
   was that I am not permitted to post. So, I believe that the server
   can identify me somehow. Any ideas what can be done in this
   situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of your insights.
 
  A *little* off-topic for Debian? This has nothing to do with the OS.
  Why should we be interested or involved in sorting out your private
  life?

 That is because I use Debian and I think people who use linux is also
 conscious about security matters.

But we are not talking about security. We are talking about how you can bypass 
having been blacklisted.

Lisi


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Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question

2015-06-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 04 June 2015 22:33:41 German wrote:
 Sorry, but this is a private information. That breaks my privacy

Then don't discuss it here.  

People who bypass email blacklistings are very annoying.  You have presumably 
been blacklisted because the list doesn't want you.

Lisi


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Re: stretch/Xfce: some strings now using larger font

2015-06-04 Thread Sven Hartge
Mike Kupfer m.kup...@acm.org wrote:
 Mike Kupfer wrote:

 Last night I updated my stretch VM (VirtualBox), and I now see larger
 characters in several places, including
 
 - xfwm4 titlebar
 - labels in the Xfce window buttons applet
 - Xfce application menu
 - Xfce logout dialog
 [...]
 The VM was previously updated on June 1st.  It's not obvious to me from
 looking at last night's list of updated/new packages what would be
 causing this.

 Someone at $DAYJOB reported a similar problem, which he tied to an
 upgrade from the VirtualBox 4.3.26 Guest Additions to 4.3.28.  And
 that upgrade was part of last night's update list.

 I haven't yet tried reverting to the 4.3.26 Guest Additions, but that
 seems likely to be where the problem is.

I am seeing this as well. Pinning the DPI setting in AppearanceFonts to
a fixed value instead of letting it auto detect the value fixed that for
me.

Grüße,
Sven.

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Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question

2015-06-04 Thread German
On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 22:49:41 +0100
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thursday 04 June 2015 22:33:41 German wrote:
  Sorry, but this is a private information. That breaks my privacy
 
 Then don't discuss it here.  
 
 People who bypass email blacklistings are very annoying.  You have
 presumably been blacklisted because the list doesn't want you.
 
 Lisi
 
 

do not tell me everyone on the list. You have no information to be
based on. And there are people on THIS list who are trying to help me
to solve my problem. And of course there will be people like you who
know this all


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Re: HELP- very slow download speeds

2015-06-04 Thread Gary Roach

On 06/03/2015 11:55 PM, Petter Adsen wrote:

On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 09:41:49 -0700
Gary Roach gary719_li...@verizon.net wrote:


On 05/25/2015 11:16 PM, Petter Adsen wrote:

iperf will use either TCP or UDP. :)

Petter


Well, I'm back

I used iperf3 as follows:
  iperf3 -c iperf.scottlinux.com

The program just hangs. I also tried it with the -R switch with the same
result. I then set up one the other computers on my internal net as a
server (iperf3 -s) and got the following results:


snip

[ ID] Interval   Transfer Bandwidth   Retr
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.02 GBytes   878 Mbits/sec 0 sender
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.02 GBytes   877 Mbits/sec
receiver

iperf Done.

My local network seems to be working fine (I tried the -R switch as
well. Same good results). Needless to say, I'm using a 100 Mbyte/second
network.

Seems good.


I am behind a verizon M1424WR rev. I router firewall that has been free
of any known transmission trouble before. Could the firewall be the
problem or has scottlinux.com shut down their iperf3 server.

Well, it's not shut down, as I just tried it and it works fine here.
Maybe it was down, though, and you should try again?

If it still doesn't work, then check your firewall. It shouldn't give
you any problems, as you are simply trying to establish a connection to
port 5201 on a remote machine, but check. Enable firewall logging, if
possible, and see if anything gets blocked. Verify that you can reach
the webserver running on the same host.

Also try with UDP (-u -b 0).

Petter

Well all of a sudden iperf.scottlinux.com works The send and receive 
with TCP packets is about the same. Below is a typical example:


root@xx# iperf3 -c iperf.scottlinux.com -R -V
iperf 3.0.7
Linux xx 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1 
(2015-04-24) x86_64 GNU/Linux

Time: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 23:42:13 GMT
Connecting to host iperf.scottlinux.com, port 5201
Reverse mode, remote host iperf.scottlinux.com is sending
  Cookie: xx.1433461333.668186.036751
  TCP MSS: 1448 (default)
[  4] local 192.168.1.7 port 49461 connected to 173.230.156.66 port 5201
Starting Test: protocol: TCP, 1 streams, 131072 byte blocks, omitting 0 
seconds, 10 second test

[ ID] Interval   Transfer Bandwidth
[  4]   0.00-1.00   sec  3.20 MBytes  26.8 Mbits/sec
[  4]   1.00-2.00   sec  3.24 MBytes  27.2 Mbits/sec
[  4]   2.00-3.00   sec  3.22 MBytes  27.0 Mbits/sec
[  4]   3.00-4.00   sec  3.23 MBytes  27.1 Mbits/sec
[  4]   4.00-5.00   sec  3.22 MBytes  27.0 Mbits/sec
[  4]   5.00-6.00   sec  3.16 MBytes  26.5 Mbits/sec
[  4]   6.00-7.00   sec  3.21 MBytes  26.9 Mbits/sec
[  4]   7.00-8.00   sec  3.20 MBytes  26.8 Mbits/sec
[  4]   8.00-9.00   sec  3.23 MBytes  27.1 Mbits/sec
[  4]   9.00-10.00  sec  3.22 MBytes  27.0 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Test Complete. Summary Results:
[ ID] Interval   Transfer Bandwidth   Retr
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec  32.4 MBytes  27.2 Mbits/sec 0 sender
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec  32.2 MBytes  27.0 Mbits/sec  
receiver
CPU Utilization: local/receiver 3.8% (0.6%u/3.2%s), remote/sender 0.1% 
(0.0%u/0.1%s)


iperf Done.

 As you can see, I'm getting about half of the 50Mbits/sec for which I 
contracted. But this is way better than my actual speed. I ran the same 
test with udp packets and got:


root@xxx# iperf3 -c iperf.scottlinux.com -R -u -V
iperf 3.0.7
Linux x 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1 
(2015-04-24) x86_64 GNU/Linux

Time: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 23:35:07 GMT
Connecting to host iperf.scottlinux.com, port 5201
Reverse mode, remote host iperf.scottlinux.com is sending
  Cookie: xx.1433460907.576325.688abe
[  4] local 192.168.1.7 port 60092 connected to 173.230.156.66 port 5201
Starting Test: protocol: UDP, 1 streams, 8192 byte blocks, omitting 0 
seconds, 10 second test
[ ID] Interval   Transfer Bandwidth   Jitter Lost/Total 
Datagrams

[  4]   0.00-1.00   sec   136 KBytes  1.11 Mbits/sec  1.587 ms  0/17 (0%)
[  4]   1.00-2.00   sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec  0.902 ms  0/16 (0%)
[  4]   2.00-3.00   sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec  0.650 ms  0/16 (0%)
[  4]   3.00-4.00   sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec  0.565 ms  0/16 (0%)
[  4]   4.00-5.00   sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec  0.533 ms  0/16 (0%)
[  4]   5.00-6.00   sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec  0.598 ms  0/16 (0%)
[  4]   6.00-7.00   sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec  0.580 ms  0/16 (0%)
[  4]   7.00-8.00   sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec  0.577 ms  0/16 (0%)
[  4]   8.00-9.00   sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec  0.774 ms  0/16 (0%)
[  4]   9.00-10.00  sec   128 KBytes  1.05 Mbits/sec  0.660 ms  0/16 (0%)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Test Complete. Summary Results:
[ ID] Interval   Transfer Bandwidth   Jitter Lost/Total 
Datagrams

[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.26 MBytes  1.06 Mbits/sec  0.660 ms 0/161 

Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question

2015-06-04 Thread John Hasler
German writes:
 Right, but already tried to post through proxy. And now I have found
 list of IP proxy which can be configured through browser. I still have
 the same message that I can't post. I doubt that they know this proxy
 address, it is not free web based address.

If you can find that list so can they.
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Re: Old Computers

2015-06-04 Thread Ric Moore

On 06/04/2015 05:44 PM, Jose Martinez wrote:



On 06/03/2015 09:55 AM, Mike McClain wrote:

On Tue, Jun 02, 2015 at 07:04:13PM -0500, Jose Martinez wrote:

And I will probably not use these system(s) on line much if any at
all.  So most of the security issues will fixed or not will not
really be a problem in this situation.

I see I've sparked a pretty good discussion on the list.  I sure
appreciate all the advice/information it will come in very handy
when I actually have the systems in hand.
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If you need linux on a 386 that's where I started with DosLinux.
I still have a copy if you're interested. As I recall no Xwindows just
command line.
Mike
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 - Dr. Seuss

I may take you up on that, depending on what I end up with. Hopefully,
I'll have at least one motherboard with a pentium class chipset.  But,
still, it might be interesting to get even the older ones up, just for
laughs.


Just for ducks I installed Caldera to an older machine. It was pitiful 
to watch Netscape Navigator try to update itself. :( Ric




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Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question

2015-06-04 Thread John Hasler
German writes:
 The message I got was that I am not permitted to post.  So, I believe
 that the server can identify me somehow.

It isn't identifying you.  It is identifying the proxy.  It is quite
common to block proxies since trolls and spammers use them frequently.
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Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question

2015-06-04 Thread German
On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 13:36:24 -0400
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote:

 On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 19:29:43 +0200
 Sven Arvidsson s...@whiz.se wrote:
 
   I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got
   banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another
   account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do
   some conversations with a members with which I have enjoyed
   talking. I successfully created account with web proxy, could
   logging in, but can't post on the message board. The message I
   got was that I am not permitted to post. So, I believe that the
   server can identify me somehow. Any ideas what can be done in
   this situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of your
   insights.   
  
  It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow
  postings from it. 
  
  You might try Tor, but that might be blocked too.
 
 Or they might have black-listed the IP address you post from ?
  
 Cheers,
  
 Ron.

Right, but already tried to post through proxy. And now I have found
list of IP proxy which can be configured through browser. I still have
the same message that I can't post. I doubt that they know this proxy
address, it is not free web based address. I think that maybe
blacklisted Debian. LOL


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Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question

2015-06-04 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 13:21 -0400, German wrote:
 I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got banned
 for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another account with
 a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do some conversations
 with a members with which I have enjoyed talking. I successfully
 created account with web proxy, could logging in, but can't post on the
 message board. The message I got was that I am not permitted to post.
 So, I believe that the server can identify me somehow. Any ideas what
 can be done in this situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of
 your insights. 

It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow
postings from it. 

You might try Tor, but that might be blocked too.

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Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question

2015-06-04 Thread Martin Read

On 04/06/15 18:34, German wrote:

Ok, how is that possible to detect the proxy?


People maintain lists of known proxy servers, and some proxy server 
software probably has a detectable fingerprint.



And Tor is some sort of
software you can use from linux?


Tor is a (quite famous - it even gets mentioned in the newspapers from 
time to time!) distributed anonymizer project. Its official site is 
easily found via the Internet search engine of your choice.



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Re: Varius Default settings

2015-06-04 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 07:19 -0400, Ron Benincasa wrote:
 Since I installed Jesse, programs always seem to open full screen,
 how/where  can I change the default behavior so that they come up in size
 and position they were when closed. Also how do I change the default
 settings on filemanager so that it automatically shows hidden files and in
 list mode. I can not seems to find where I can set these defaults they way
 I could in Wheezy.

What desktop environment are you using?

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Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question

2015-06-04 Thread German
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 19:29:43 +0200
Sven Arvidsson s...@whiz.se wrote:

 On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 13:21 -0400, German wrote:
  I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got
  banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another
  account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do
  some conversations with a members with which I have enjoyed
  talking. I successfully created account with web proxy, could
  logging in, but can't post on the message board. The message I got
  was that I am not permitted to post. So, I believe that the server
  can identify me somehow. Any ideas what can be done in this
  situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of your insights. 
 
 It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow
 postings from it. 
 
 You might try Tor, but that might be blocked too.
 

Ok, how is that possible to detect the proxy? And Tor is some sort of
software you can use from linux? 


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Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question

2015-06-04 Thread Ron
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 19:29:43 +0200
Sven Arvidsson s...@whiz.se wrote:

  I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got banned
  for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another account with
  a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do some conversations
  with a members with which I have enjoyed talking. I successfully
  created account with web proxy, could logging in, but can't post on the
  message board. The message I got was that I am not permitted to post.
  So, I believe that the server can identify me somehow. Any ideas what
  can be done in this situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of
  your insights.   
 
 It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow
 postings from it. 
 
 You might try Tor, but that might be blocked too.

Or they might have black-listed the IP address you post from ?
 
Cheers,
 
Ron.
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Drivers pixel 2015

2015-06-04 Thread Azael Gonzalez
Buen dia estimados,

Alguno de ustedes sabe cual es el estatus de los drivers del touchpad,
touchscreen y audio en la chromebook pixel (2015), no eh encontrado un
kernel para debian con dicho soporte.

cualquier informacion se las agradeceria

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A little of topic: security and anonymity question

2015-06-04 Thread German
I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got banned
for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another account with
a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do some conversations
with a members with which I have enjoyed talking. I successfully
created account with web proxy, could logging in, but can't post on the
message board. The message I got was that I am not permitted to post.
So, I believe that the server can identify me somehow. Any ideas what
can be done in this situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of
your insights. 


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Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question

2015-06-04 Thread John Hasler
German writes:
 Ok, how is that possible to detect the proxy?

There are published lists of the IPs of known proxies.

 And Tor is some sort of software you can use from linux?

apt-cache show tor
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Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question

2015-06-04 Thread German
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 12:51:49 -0500
John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote:

 German writes:
  Ok, how is that possible to detect the proxy?
 
 There are published lists of the IPs of known proxies.
 
  And Tor is some sort of software you can use from linux?
 
 apt-cache show tor

Ok, thank you


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Re: much longer boot time with jessie

2015-06-04 Thread Sven Hartge
David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk wrote:

 $ systemd-analyze blame
  36.727s wicd.service
  22.102s binfmt-support.service
  20.789s alsa-restore.service
  20.618s lm-sensors.service
  20.565s systemd-logind.service
  20.471s rsyslog.service
  20.468s rc-local.service
  20.465s systemd-user-sessions.service
  20.462s apmd.service
  20.461s virtualbox.service
  20.461s loadcpufreq.service
  20.460s gpm.service
  20.135s bluetooth.service
  19.730s exim4.service
  11.922s timidity.service

This is very very strange. But I notice a common pattern among those
service. Nearly all take about 20.4 seconds to start.

To compare, here is a list of the top services from my workstation:

  8.540s systemd-journal-flush.service
  4.379s dev-md0.device
  4.359s dev-dm\x2d0.device
  4.063s accounts-daemon.service
  3.329s munin-node.service
  3.041s systemd-udev-settle.service
  2.806s teamviewerd.service
  2.743s binfmt-support.service
  2.391s mdadm-raid.service
  2.084s systemd-logind.service
  2.010s loadcpufreq.service
  1.987s irqbalance.service
  1.973s rsyslog.service
  1.953s systemd-user-sessions.service
  1.942s timidity.service
  1.940s lm-sensors.service
  1.648s schroot.service
  1.639s lightdm.service
  1.598s avahi-daemon.service
  1.408s mcelog.service
  1.354s sensord.service
  1.330s systemd-cryptsetup@cswap.service
  1.224s dirmngr.service
  1.168s autofs.service
  1.109s virtualbox.service

(systemd-journal-flush takes so long, because is set to persistent and
has to flush the journal to a read HDD instead of to /run, which is a
tmpfs.)

As you can see, most services start in under 3 seconds. The whole
startup from kernel to lightdm takes 29.5 seconds: 

  Startup finished in 5.721s (kernel) + 23.808s (userspace) = 29.529s

 I've tried to analyse the Login-BashPrompt time of 30-34 secs.
 I added set -v to the start of .bash_profile and the end of .bashrc,
 and set +v to the start of .bashrc and the end of .bash_profile,
 ie excluding tracing .bashrc because it lists every function
 as they are defined.

 What I discovered is that .bash_profile is reached 16 seconds after
 You have new mail. and that a function which copies a lot of my
 startup files to /tmp/.my-startups/ takes over 15 seconds to run.
 (The disk activity light is lit through the entire boot/login process
 and beyond.)

What is that my startup files? This must be something special and home
brewn on your system, right? I guess this special function runs for
every init-script and causing the delay of your boot. Could you please
disable whatever does this copying of my startup files and try again?

Grüße,
Sven.

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Re: Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?

2015-06-04 Thread Reco
 Hi.

On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 09:51:34 -0500
Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:

  Or, closer to what you actually wanted, you could take a look at the
  package kuser. Obviously, it's intended for use with KDE, so it will
  drag in some KDE/Qt libraries if you do not already have them. I
  couldn't find any such tools for GTK with apt-cache right now.
 
  Ubuntu has/had GTK tools for this, I think, maybe it's possible to grab
  those and use them on Jessie? No idea what the package is called,
  though.
 
  The package is called 'usermode', and it's hardly an Ubuntu invention.
  Said package is provided by Debian main archive since squeeze at least.
 
 
 I loaded with Synaptic and it did not appear in any of the 
 drop-down menus.
 I tried CLI as root and got
 bash: usermode: command not found
 
 As I said in another message, I've some other system level 
 strangeness to check out.

It does not work that way. What you need to run is:

/usr/bin/userpasswd

or,

/usr/bin/userinfo


Basically,

dpkg -L usermode | egrep '^/usr/s?bin'

Reco


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Re: Iceweasel slow to freeze

2015-06-04 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 15:39 +0200, notoneofmy wrote:
 On 15-06-04 11:41 AM, Matthew Chong wrote:
  Happens to me as well, was running Skype(hosted in a xterm window),
  iceweasel and wine notepad++. It totally froze gdm. Crashed again some time
  after I restarted gdm, then I just gave up and rebooted, after that the
  issue gone away.
 I have had to restart several times. But the problem remains.
 
 I think the real problem is this. I have lots and lots of lines like
 these in the attached .doc log file.
 
 gnome-sgnome session[1249]: (gnome-shell:1388): mutter-WARNING **:
 STACK_OP_RAISE_ABOVE: window 0x5e01200016 not in stack

No, that's pretty much harmless.

Any hard crash is a bug in the kernel, a driver, or a hardware problem
(bad RAM for example). 

It may just show up when you use Iceweasel or any other modern browser
considering that the browser is probably the the most resource-hungry
and advanced program most users run. 

If X locks up, and you can't even switch to a VT I would suspect a
problem with the video driver.

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Re: Gestor de Biblioteca

2015-06-04 Thread jaume
Acabo de fer una cerca dels paquets al repositori de debian testing i no 
n'he trobat cap :(


Vaig a seguir investigant...


A 2014-11-27 20:49, Àlex escrigué:

A 2014-11-27 17:31, ja...@citrik.org escrigué:

Molt bones Debianit@s!

Algú coneix o ha utilitzat alguna sol·lució de software lliure per a
gestionar una biblioteca?

Salut!



Bona nit Jaume i debiantes

No tinc cap experiència usant aquest programari, però fa quatre anys
vaig haver de recopilar uns quants dels que llavors havia:

* OpenBiblio
  http://obiblio.sourceforge.net/

* Library Manager
  http://libman.sourceforge.net/loaded.html

* Simple Library
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/library/

* GNUTeca
  http://www.gnuteca.org.br/

* software de gestión de biblioteca del CERN
  http://cds.cern.ch

* software de gestión de biblioteca del INICTEL
  http://www.inictel.gob.pe/sistemas/

* DSpace
  http://www.dspace.org/

* Koha
  http://www.koha.org/

* Greenstone Digital Library Software
  http://www.greenstone.org/

* InfoLib
  http://infolib.alaehweb.com/

* PHPMyLibrary
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpmylibrary/

* PMB
  http://www.pmbservices.fr/index.php?lvl=cmspagepageid=3

* Invenio
  http://invenio-software.org/

Si s'ha de portar TOTA la gestió d'una biblioteca (no només la gestió
bibliogràfica sino també codis de barres, emprar estàndadr MARC21, ...)
em van recomanar en el seu moment Koha i PMB

Per cert, la distribució Lliurex de la comunitat Valenciana té una ISO
especial per portar la gestió de biblioteques de centres escolars.

També et pot ser interesant fer recerca a aquests tres enllaços:


https://www.zotero.org/groups/freelibre_and_open_source_software_and_libraries_bibliography

  http://ir.uiowa.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1021context=bsides

  http://www.oss4lib.org/

Salut


   Àlex



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Re: Archivos indestructibles

2015-06-04 Thread Javier ArgentinaBBAR
Me tomó unas tres horas, y limpié nuevamente el disco etiquetado como
MALO, resultando en 220 bloques inválidos.
Vamos a ver cómo sigue en el futuro.

~#  badblocks -v /dev/sdb1  bad-blocks
Revisando los bloques del 0 al 488385535
Se están revisando los bloques dañados (prueba de sólo lectura):
hecho
Paso terminado, se encontraron 220 bloques dañados. (220/0/0 errores)

~# fsck.ext4 -l bad-blocks /dev/sdb1
e2fsck 1.42.13 (17-May-2015)
El bloque dañado 125178892 está fuera del intervalo; se descarta.
El bloque dañado 125178893 está fuera del intervalo; se descarta.
El bloque dañado 125178894 está fuera del intervalo; se descarta.
El bloque dañado 125178895 está fuera del intervalo; se descarta.
El bloque dañado 125180432 está fuera del intervalo; se descarta.
El bloque dañado 125180433 está fuera del intervalo; se descarta.
El bloque dañado 125180434 está fuera del intervalo; se descarta.
El bloque dañado 125180435 está fuera del intervalo; se descarta.
MALO: Updating bad block inode.
Paso 1: Verificando nodos-i, bloques y tamaños
Paso 2: Verificando la estructura de directorios
Paso 3: Revisando la conectividad de directorios
Paso 4: Revisando las cuentas de referencia
Paso 5: Revisando el resumen de información de grupos
La cuenta de bloques libres es incorrecta para el grupo #16 (24536,
contados=24540).
Arreglars? si
La cuenta de bloques libres es incorrecta (120129269, contados=120129273).
Arreglars? si

MALO: * EL SISTEMA DE FICHEROS FUE MODIFICADO *
MALO: 11/30531584 ficheros (0.0% no contiguos), 1967111/122096384 bloques


No me puse a hacer un chequeo destructivo con badblocks, pues como
dice For some devices this will take a couple of days to complete.,
tal vez algún día.

JAP


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Re: practical difference between main and contrib/non-free package sections

2015-06-04 Thread Reco
 Hi.

On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 10:15:36 +0300
Alexander misterepicman...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello. It is said on the Debian website, that contrib and non-free 
 packages get security updates whenever it is possible, some of these 
 packages are maintained by official Debian teams (for example, 
 firmware-linux-nonfree is maintained by Debian Kernel Team). Seems like 
 the only practical difference in Debian's attitude to contrib/non-free 
 is that packages from contrib/non-free cannot be included in official 
 Debian installation images and there is no difference in how Debian 
 supports main, contrib, non-free. Am I right?
 Thank you.

No, you're mistaken. Every package should be maintained by someone (or
by some team) or it's excluded from the Debian archive.

The main difference between 'main' and 'non-free' is that 'main'
software's source can be modified by maintainer (and of course, any
end-user if said user wishes to do so). 'non-free' software may lack
the source entirely.

'contrib' serves as a shim between 'main' and 'non-free' in a sense
that by itself 'contrib' software is free (as in 'liberty'), but it's
useless without 'non-free'.

In terms of support it means that every time some bad vulnerability is
discovered - 'main' software can be patched at once. For 'non-free'
software everyone is left at the mercy of software vendor. For
'contrib' it depends on the scale of possible breakage.

Of course, there are politics involved. For example, the very
'firmware-linux-nonfree' package you mention was not considered
'non-free' by certain Debian Developers back in the day said package
was invented.
Or, for example, 'hplip' package provides certain programs
with the only function of downloading and installing non-free blobs,
yet the package itself resides in 'main'.

Reco


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Re: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender

2015-06-04 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El mié, 03-06-2015 a las 20:31 -0500, Debia Linux escribió: 
 
 
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Debia Linux debianer...@gmail.com
  To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
  Cc:
  Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 20:14:21 -0500
  Subject: Re: Montar galaxy s4 en debian linux
  2015-06-02 9:06 GMT-05:00 Adolfo Maltez fmal...@salud.gob.sv:
  Saludos.
 
  En lo personal uso jmtpfs.
 
  # apt-get install jmtpfs
  # mkdir /media/s4
  # jmtpfs /media/s4
 
  Mas opciones:
  # man jmtpfs
 
  Hola, ya instale y al momento en queintento conectarme me sale el
  siguiente mensaje:
 
  Unable to open ~/.mtpz-data for reading, MTPZ disabled.No mtp devices 
  found.
 
 
  Me imagino que mtpz-data es un archivo que configura el galaxy.
 
  Un comentario mas. solo estoy trabajando SIN ENTORNO GRAFICO. ¿Este
  sirve sin entorno grafico?.
 
  Por cierto, se me olvido comentar que al hacer lsusb ya no me aparece
  la linea que antes si aparecia y que era:
 
  Bus 001 device 019: ID 04e8:6865 Samsung Electronics Co., LTD
 
 
 Cambie de cable y ahora si me reconoce nuevamente el dispositivo, pero
 ahora me sale otro aviso.
 
 Device 0 (VID=04e8 and PID=6860) is a Samsung Galaxy models (MTP).
 fusermount: user has no write access to mountpoint /media/s4
 
 

su -c 'chown tu usuario /media/s4'


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stretch/Xfce: some strings now using larger font

2015-06-04 Thread Mike Kupfer
Last night I updated my stretch VM (VirtualBox), and I now see larger
characters in several places, including

- xfwm4 titlebar
- labels in the Xfce window buttons applet
- Xfce application menu
- Xfce logout dialog

But the Xfce settings dialogs (Appearance, Window Manager) say that the
font settings have not changed.  And the text in the Xfce terminal
emulator looks normal.

The VM was previously updated on June 1st.  It's not obvious to me from
looking at last night's list of updated/new packages what would be
causing this.

I don't see larger-than-expected characters with Cinnamon.

Is anyone else seeing this?

FWIW, the host is running Jessie, and I'm using the Debian VirtualBox
packages.

thanks,
mike


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Re: Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?

2015-06-04 Thread Richard Owlett

Reco wrote:

  Hi.

On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 10:11:33AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote:

On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 02:14:36 -0500
Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:


With Gnome2 under Squeeze there was a users administration tool under
System-Administration-Users and Groups .

Is there such a tool available for Mate under Jessie?


I know this isn't what you're asking for, but you could have a look at
webmin - it's not included in the repos, but webmin.com has a repo for
Debian that you can use.

It does this, and a lot of other stuff also. I find it useful for
setting up packages and services that I'm not familiar with, since you
can make the changes in the webmin UI and then see what has changed in
the config files.

They also have a package called usermin that is used for setting up
per-user stuff, although I haven't used that much.


Firends don't let friends to use webmin :)


I've been known to login with root privileges before ;/





Or, closer to what you actually wanted, you could take a look at the
package kuser. Obviously, it's intended for use with KDE, so it will
drag in some KDE/Qt libraries if you do not already have them. I
couldn't find any such tools for GTK with apt-cache right now.

Ubuntu has/had GTK tools for this, I think, maybe it's possible to grab
those and use them on Jessie? No idea what the package is called,
though.


The package is called 'usermode', and it's hardly an Ubuntu invention.
Said package is provided by Debian main archive since squeeze at least.



I loaded with Synaptic and it did not appear in any of the 
drop-down menus.

I tried CLI as root and got
   bash: usermode: command not found

As I said in another message, I've some other system level 
strangeness to check out.





Reco





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Re: Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?

2015-06-04 Thread lostson
On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 14:34 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Thursday 04 June 2015 12:26:03 Reco wrote:
   Hi.
 
  On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 10:11:33AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote:
   On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 02:14:36 -0500
  
   Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
With Gnome2 under Squeeze there was a users administration tool under
System-Administration-Users and Groups .
   
Is there such a tool available for Mate under Jessie?
 [snip]
  
   Ubuntu has/had GTK tools for this, I think, maybe it's possible to grab
   those and use them on Jessie? No idea what the package is called,
   though.
 
  The package is called 'usermode', and it's hardly an Ubuntu invention.
  Said package is provided by Debian main archive since squeeze at least.
 
  Reco
 
 lisi@Tux-II:~$ aptitude search usermode
 p   usermode - Graphical tools for certain user 
 account manag
 p   usermode:i386- Graphical tools for certain user 
 account manag
 lisi@Tux-II:~$ cat /etc/debian_version
 7.8
 lisi@Tux-II:~$
 
 Lisi
 
apt-get install mate-system-tools will get you what you are looking
for. 

LostSon



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Re: Timeout de un comando que corre bajo sudo

2015-06-04 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 03 Jun 2015 15:38:10 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió:

 Estimados, necesito poner un tiempo límite de ejecución a un comando que
 corre bajo sudo. El mismo es el siguiente
 
 sudo nice iftop -i eth1
 
 En nuestro caso nice está configurado en sudoers, con lo que cualquier
 usuario puede correr iftop si lo ejecuta de la forma anterior. El teme s
 que si hago así:
 
 timeout -s SIGKILL 5 sudo nice /usr/sbin/iftop -i eth1
 
 Lo que sucede es que me devuelve a la consola pero iftop sigue
 corriendo! 

Entiendo que con esa instrucción le pones el contador a sudo (padre) no 
a iftop (hijo) de ahí que no se detenga.

 Pero si hago (habiendo previamente agregado el comando
 timeout a sudoers):
 
 sudo timeout -s SIGKILL 5 /usr/sbin/iftop -i eth1
 
 Lo que sucede es que iftop como que quiere empezar a funcionar pero no
 sucede nada y a los 5 segundos me devuelve a la consola normal. Lo que
 se ve en si es lo siguiente:
 
 sudo timeout -s SIGKILL 5 /usr/sbin/iftop -i eth1 interface: eth1 IP
 address is: aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd.eee MAC address is: aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff

 Ahí se queda 5 segundos y luego sale. Pero por último, si hago como root
 lo siguiente:
 
 timeout -s SIGKILL 5 iftop -i eth1
 
 Funciona perfectamente! El tema claro está es que necesito que esto se
 puede hacer sin ser root.
 
 Les agradecería cualquier ayuda que me puedan dar al respecto. Saludos y
 gracias!!!

Hum... ¿y si pruebas con otras alternativas?

sudo timeout -s SIGKILL 5 nice iftop -i eth1
sudo nice iftop -i eth1  sleep 5  kill -s 5 `pidof iftop`

Saludos,

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Re: Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?

2015-06-04 Thread Richard Owlett

Petter Adsen wrote:

On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 02:14:36 -0500
Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:


With Gnome2 under Squeeze there was a users administration tool under
System-Administration-Users and Groups .

Is there such a tool available for Mate under Jessie?


I know this isn't what you're asking for, but you could have a look at
webmin - it's not included in the repos, but webmin.com has a repo for
Debian that you can use.

It does this, and a lot of other stuff also. I find it useful for
setting up packages and services that I'm not familiar with, since you
can make the changes in the webmin UI and then see what has changed in
the config files.


chuckle
I do prefer single use tools to the Swiss Army knife.
Also, I was looking not only for my own use but to install on a 
non-geek friend's system.
Besides I'm on dialup so would have to visit local library to 
download.





They also have a package called usermin that is used for setting up
per-user stuff, although I haven't used that much.

Or, closer to what you actually wanted, you could take a look at the
package kuser. Obviously, it's intended for use with KDE, so it will
drag in some KDE/Qt libraries if you do not already have them. I
couldn't find any such tools for GTK with apt-cache right now.


I loaded it, but it crashed in weird ways. I won't blame it yet 
as I had some strange errors when installing Jessie this time 
around. There may be hardware problems.




Ubuntu has/had GTK tools for this, I think, maybe it's possible to grab
those and use them on Jessie? No idea what the package is called,
though.

Petter




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Re: Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?

2015-06-04 Thread Richard Owlett

lostson wrote:

On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 14:34 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Thursday 04 June 2015 12:26:03 Reco wrote:

  Hi.

On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 10:11:33AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote:

On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 02:14:36 -0500

Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:

With Gnome2 under Squeeze there was a users administration tool under
System-Administration-Users and Groups .

Is there such a tool available for Mate under Jessie?

[snip]


Ubuntu has/had GTK tools for this, I think, maybe it's possible to grab
those and use them on Jessie? No idea what the package is called,
though.


The package is called 'usermode', and it's hardly an Ubuntu invention.
Said package is provided by Debian main archive since squeeze at least.

Reco


lisi@Tux-II:~$ aptitude search usermode
p   usermode - Graphical tools for certain user
account manag
p   usermode:i386- Graphical tools for certain user
account manag
lisi@Tux-II:~$ cat /etc/debian_version
7.8
lisi@Tux-II:~$

Lisi


apt-get install mate-system-tools will get you what you are looking
for.

LostSon



That at least got me the menu items I was looking for.
I'm about to do a reinstall from scratch for other problems. More 
later.

Thanks to all.



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Re: Rebote de lista

2015-06-04 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 04 Jun 2015 08:41:16 -0300, Javier ArgentinaBBAR escribió:

 Cuando envían correos a la lista,
 ¿están recibiendo rebotes de mailer-dae...@ch.gob.cu?
 Porque ya recibí un reporte de bounce amenzándome que me vas a
 desuscribir si eso sigue.

No lo recibido (ventajas de no estar suscrita a la lista).

Contacta con el administrador (listmas...@lists.debian.org) para que dé 
de baja la dirección problemática.

Saludos,

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Re: libdvdccs ?

2015-06-04 Thread Nisse Bok
Den 2015-06-04 skrev Rolf Edlund rolfew...@gmail.com:
 Den 4 juni 2015 04:36 skrev Nisse Bok from_nisse.f...@recursor.net:
 # 
 ### Ej-officiella: (t.ex. libdvdcss, mythtv etc.)
 deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org jessie main non-free
 # 

 Detta är ett väldigt bra tips. Har aldrig sysslat med apt-pinning. Men
 har hört talas om det sedan flera år tillbaka.. Kanske ska jag börja
 ge mig in i det nu.

 När det gäller www.deb-multimedia.org, så hittar jag en hel del
 varningar om den hemsidan på nätet. Just för att det inte är en
 officiell Debian hemsida.

Det var tidigare en ganska inflammera diskussion om just detta.
Christian Marillat (officiell Debian-paketerar) hade/har som ‘bisyssla’
att paketera program som inte tillåts Debians officiella arkiv.
Problemet var först och främst att hans arkiv förut hette
‘debian-multimedia’ och att han ibland paketerade samma paket som Debian
officiellt paketerade – oftast med någon encoder/codec (t.ex.
Macromedias/Adobes flashplugin, Handbrake, XBMC/Kodi, ffmpeg…) som
Debian inte får/vill stödja. Dessa paket var nyare eller gavs högre
prioritet vilket resulterade i att de ersatte de officiella paketen.
Detta var väl frid och fröjd så länge som inget blev instabilt eller
slutade fungera. Så var dock inte alltid fallet. Var tror ni användarna
klagade?

Jag vet inte vad han tjänar på att husera ett stort eget arkiv, men med
åren har han börjat paketera sådant som _borde_ hamna direkt i Debians
officiella arkiv.

Samtidigt gör han oss en stor tjänst. Jag har under många år använt mig
av MythTV som han paketerar. Innan XBMC (nu Kodi) fanns i Debian så
använde jag även dessa paket. Detta gäller flera multimediapaket som
inte finns i Debian. Dock undviker jag allt som redan finns i Debian –
därav min instruktion gällande apt-pinning.

  Nisse


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Re: HELP- very slow download speeds

2015-06-04 Thread Petter Adsen
On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 09:41:49 -0700
Gary Roach gary719_li...@verizon.net wrote:

 On 05/25/2015 11:16 PM, Petter Adsen wrote:
  iperf will use either TCP or UDP. :)
 
  Petter
 
 Well, I'm back
 
 I used iperf3 as follows:
  iperf3 -c iperf.scottlinux.com
 
 The program just hangs. I also tried it with the -R switch with the same 
 result. I then set up one the other computers on my internal net as a 
 server (iperf3 -s) and got the following results:
 
snip
 [ ID] Interval   Transfer Bandwidth   Retr
 [  4]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.02 GBytes   878 Mbits/sec 0 sender
 [  4]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.02 GBytes   877 Mbits/sec  
 receiver
 
 iperf Done.
 
 My local network seems to be working fine (I tried the -R switch as 
 well. Same good results). Needless to say, I'm using a 100 Mbyte/second 
 network.

Seems good.

 I am behind a verizon M1424WR rev. I router firewall that has been free 
 of any known transmission trouble before. Could the firewall be the 
 problem or has scottlinux.com shut down their iperf3 server.

Well, it's not shut down, as I just tried it and it works fine here.
Maybe it was down, though, and you should try again?

If it still doesn't work, then check your firewall. It shouldn't give
you any problems, as you are simply trying to establish a connection to
port 5201 on a remote machine, but check. Enable firewall logging, if
possible, and see if anything gets blocked. Verify that you can reach
the webserver running on the same host.

Also try with UDP (-u -b 0).

Petter

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Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?

2015-06-04 Thread Richard Owlett

With Gnome2 under Squeeze there was a users administration tool under
System-Administration-Users and Groups .

Is there such a tool available for Mate under Jessie?

TIA



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Re: Archivos indestructibles

2015-06-04 Thread OddieX
Tenes error en la tabla de particiones, pasa un fsck y fijate si siguen
apareciendo... Si fsck no te tira la opcion de eliminarlos ya fue tira el
hd a la mierda... El error pasa por que la tabla de particion le dice que
en tal bloque se encuentra tal dato y ese bloque es inaccesible... Proba
hacerle un dd of=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX no se que disco es y dejalo correr,
fijate en las opciones de dd, que hay una noerror o no se como es para que
si encuentra un error siga!
El jun. 3, 2015 8:54 PM, Santiago Vila sanv...@unex.es escribió:

 On Wed, Jun 03, 2015 at 04:30:27PM +, Carlos Manuel Escalona Villeda
 wrote:
  usualmente un formateo de bajo nivel (dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sda) debe
  ser suficiente para destruir todo lo que tenga un disco.

 Ay. Si alguna vez quieres hacer dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sda,
 *no* lo hagas, agotarás la entropía del generador de números
 aleatorios y tardará mil años en acabar.

 Usa /dev/urandom en su lugar.


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Re: [HS] Questions générales sur Raspbian

2015-06-04 Thread moi-meme
Le Thu, 04 Jun 2015 09:20:02 +0200, daniel huhardeaux a écrit :

 Une fois que tu as configuré ton PI aux petits oignons , après un dd de
 la carte SD vers ton PC, tu peux installer et tester d'autres
 distribution. Le retour vers ta préféreée se fera via un dd inverse.

ou encore plus simple avec un jeu de cartes SD

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Re: [HS] Questions générales sur Raspbian

2015-06-04 Thread moi-meme
Le Thu, 04 Jun 2015 09:20:02 +0200, daniel huhardeaux a écrit :

 1. Connaissez-vous une mailing list, francophone si possible, dédiée à
 Raspbian ?
 
 Le site de framboise314.fr

https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=65

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Re: [HS] Questions générales sur Raspbian

2015-06-04 Thread S L
Le 3 juin 2015 22:07, Olivier oza.4...@gmail.com a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 Plus habitué à Debian, j'ai quelques difficultés a m'y retrouver avec
 Raspbian.
 J'ai une Raspi2. Je souhaite y installer des logiciels récents que l'on
 retrouve dans Jessie.
 J'ai plusieurs questions:
 1. Connaissez-vous une mailing list, francophone si possible, dédiée à
 Raspbian ?
 [...]

Bonjour
Je ne trouve que cette liste de diffusion
https://alioth.debian.org/mail/?group_id=100783
En français le site de référence est
http://www.framboise314.fr/
Forums en français, dont un sur Raspbian
http://forums.framboise314.fr/
2e édition du bouquin
http://www.eyrolles.com/Informatique/Livre/raspberry-pi-2-9782746095038
Voir aussi http://raspbian-france.fr/
Il y a deux meetups Raspberry en IDF sur meetup.com
Un canal IRC mais pas de liste http://raspbian.org/
Raspbianement, SL
https://lite6.framapad.org/p/parinux.agenda

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Re: libdvdccs ?

2015-06-04 Thread Rolf Edlund
Den 4 juni 2015 08:36 skrev Nisse Bok from_nisse.f...@recursor.net:
 När det gäller www.deb-multimedia.org, så hittar jag en hel del
 varningar om den hemsidan på nätet. Just för att det inte är en
 officiell Debian hemsida.

 Det var tidigare en ganska inflammera diskussion om just detta.

Jo, jag kommer ihåg detta. Det diskuterades även i Fidonet, på den
tiden jag var med där (2:203/460). Vet inte om Fidonet öht finns kvar.
I Sverige är det väl iss helt nedlagt.

 Christian Marillat (officiell Debian-paketerar) hade/har som ‘bisyssla’
 att paketera program som inte tillåts Debians officiella arkiv.
 Problemet var först och främst att hans arkiv förut hette
 ‘debian-multimedia’ och att han ibland paketerade samma paket som Debian
 officiellt paketerade – oftast med någon encoder/codec (t.ex.
 Macromedias/Adobes flashplugin, Handbrake, XBMC/Kodi, ffmpeg…) som
 Debian inte får/vill stödja. Dessa paket var nyare eller gavs högre
 prioritet vilket resulterade i att de ersatte de officiella paketen.
 Detta var väl frid och fröjd så länge som inget blev instabilt eller
 slutade fungera. Så var dock inte alltid fallet. Var tror ni användarna
 klagade?

Kan väl aldrig vara i denna listan.. ;).

 Jag vet inte vad han tjänar på att husera ett stort eget arkiv, men med
 åren har han börjat paketera sådant som _borde_ hamna direkt i Debians
 officiella arkiv.

 Samtidigt gör han oss en stor tjänst. Jag har under många år använt mig
 av MythTV som han paketerar. Innan XBMC (nu Kodi) fanns i Debian så
 använde jag även dessa paket. Detta gäller flera multimediapaket som
 inte finns i Debian. Dock undviker jag allt som redan finns i Debian –
 därav min instruktion gällande apt-pinning.

Så idag är det mao ingen större risk, att använda sig av hans arkiv ?
Hmmm.. tål att tänkas på isf.

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Re: [HS] Questions générales sur Raspbian

2015-06-04 Thread daniel huhardeaux

Le 03/06/2015 22:07, Olivier a écrit :

Bonjour,


Bonjour


[...]

1. Connaissez-vous une mailing list, francophone si possible, dédiée à 
Raspbian ?


Le site de framboise314.fr



2. J'ai copié Raspbian sur une  carte SD en le télé-chargeant depuis [1].
Pourtant, sur ce site grand public, si le noyau de l'unique version 
télé-chargeable de Raspbian est bien le 3.18, la distribution est de 
type Wheezy.

J'aurai apprécié télé-charger directement Jessie.
Ai-je raté quelque chose ?


Non. Une fois cette image téléchargée tu upgrade en Jessie. Il n'y a pas 
encore de la part de raspbian d'image jessie.


Pour l'upgrade ton source liste ressemble à cela

deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ jessie main contrib 
non-free rpi


Si tu veux une image pi2 jessie directe

https://images.collabora.co.uk/rpi2/

Je l'ai testée mais n'ai jamais réussi à faire fonctionner la caméra par 
ex. Ave la raspbian+upgrade Jessie, pas de soucis



[...]
4. Quels conseils et suggestions pour qui voudrait prendre le minimum 
de risques sur ce type de plate-forme et travaille habituellement sur 
PC/i386 ?


Quels risques? C'est une Debian, point. De plus, tu peux tester d'autres 
images pour le PI comme Ubuntu ou OpenElec. Voir ici 
https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/


Une fois que tu as configuré ton PI aux petits oignons :-), après un dd 
de la carte SD vers ton PC, tu peux installer et tester d'autres 
distribution. Le retour vers ta préféreée se fera via un dd inverse.


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practical difference between main and contrib/non-free package sections

2015-06-04 Thread Alexander
Hello. It is said on the Debian website, that contrib and non-free 
packages get security updates whenever it is possible, some of these 
packages are maintained by official Debian teams (for example, 
firmware-linux-nonfree is maintained by Debian Kernel Team). Seems like 
the only practical difference in Debian's attitude to contrib/non-free 
is that packages from contrib/non-free cannot be included in official 
Debian installation images and there is no difference in how Debian 
supports main, contrib, non-free. Am I right?

Thank you.


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Moving server to new server with tar

2015-06-04 Thread Linux4Bene
Hi,


I am in the process of moving my server to another VPS.
The goal is to keep the old VPS around and convert it to backup MX  DNS 
amongst other things. I will purchase the new VPS from another company so 
I can't just copy the vm file/container.

As a start, I would do a full tar archive of the old server and start 
from there. A test on a local VM worked, with some adjustments. Both use 
Debian 7.8. The services on the old server that need to me moved:
- Mail: Postfix, Dovecot, Spamassassin, Clamav, Postgresql, ...
- Web: nginx, supervisord, python, php5-fpm, Postgresql, ...
- DNS: PowerDNS

Tar command from the backup script on the old server:
EXCLUDE=--exclude=proc --exclude=sys --exclude=dev/pts --exclude=backups
tar -czpf /backups/full.tar.gz --directory=/ $EXCLUDE / 21

I know I can migrate by first installing all packages, and then copying 
the config and data from one server to the other. But then you need to 
pick all data to be moved. It takes longer and it's more prone to error 
(forgetting something). I want this server to be exactly the same as the 
first one.

What I've found so far in my test:
- It's a good thing to first install all the same packages on the new 
machine first. I didn't do that in my first test and Postfix wouldn't 
come up because of Exim that was installed on the base version of the new 
OS. Simple to solve but this wouldn't have happened if I had installed 
Postfix first as Exim would have been purged.
Might be better to start with:
Old server: dpkg --get-selections  packages
New server: dpkg --set-selections  packages

- Extract the tar archive from the root on the new server
- Adjust /etc/hostname, /etc/hosts, /etc/network/interfaces
- Adjust PowerDNS settings on new server. If the new server is up I will 
need to change the PowerDNS settings on the old server as well and set up 
DNS synchronization. DNS entries at the domain registrars  reverse DNS 
will need to be changed.
- Check configs of the services above for the old ip or hostname
- Run update-grub as the id of the disk has changed.
- Reboot

This worked well, but I wonder if there are good reasons to not do move
the server like this?

Thanks for any info or insight

Regards,
Benedict


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Re: Timeout de un comando que corre bajo sudo

2015-06-04 Thread Adrià
On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 12:51:52AM -0300, Mauro Antivero wrote:
 El 03/06/15 a las 16:49, Adrià escibió:
 Quizá te pueda servir sudo -K
 Disculpá pero no me doy cuenta como usarlo.

Releyendo tu correo parece que no, que no te serviría.
El parámetro -K elimina el token que permite la ejecución de un comando
con sudo sin contraseña, si X tiempo antes ya se ha validado. Por tanto,
no parece ser lo que te interesa en este caso; disculpa.

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Re: Autologin to X session (Debian 8)?

2015-06-04 Thread Nicolas George
Le sextidi 16 prairial, an CCXXIII, Teemu Likonen a écrit :
 Upto Debian 7 I have had this line in my /etc/fstab file:
 
 oma:2:once:/bin/su -l dtw -c /usr/bin/startx /dev/tty8 /dev/tty8 21
 
 It seems that it has no effect anymore in Debian 8 (Jessie), probably
 because of the new init system (systemd). So how do I get similar
 functionality with the new systemd init system?

Someone recently suggested to use nodm; a quick test a few days ago seems
to indicate it still works.

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Re: Iceweasel slow to freeze

2015-06-04 Thread Matthew Chong
Happens to me as well, was running Skype(hosted in a xterm window),
iceweasel and wine notepad++. It totally froze gdm. Crashed again some time
after I restarted gdm, then I just gave up and rebooted, after that the
issue gone away.

On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 at 6:56 am notoneofmy notoneofmyse...@gmx.de wrote:

 I've attached my system log and perhaps I get help, as no luck with that
 big search engine.

 But it appears a bigger problem than iceweasel.

 Thanks a lot.

 On 15-06-02 7:58 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
  Anyone here having serious issues with Iceweasel in Jessie.
 
  Yes it's  a real pig, and resource hog.
 
  I went to install some addons and the computer froze. Had to restart.
 
  No, never had that happen.
 
  At other times, the browser had done same; cause the computer to
  freeze.
 
  Are you sure it froze or it was just Iceweasel hogging the whole system?
 
  I've had firefox do the same. Just run it nekkid, without addons, and
  see the difference.




mate-system-tools is answer -was [Re: Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?]

2015-06-04 Thread Richard Owlett

lostson wrote:

[snip]

Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:

With Gnome2 under Squeeze there was a users administration tool under
System-Administration-Users and Groups .

Is there such a tool available for Mate under Jessie?

[snip]


apt-get install mate-system-tools will get you what you are looking
for.

LostSon



*YES*! That matches both the functionality and form I was looking 
for.

Thanks.


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Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question

2015-06-04 Thread Reco
 Hi.

On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 19:29:43 +0200
Sven Arvidsson s...@whiz.se wrote:

 On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 13:21 -0400, German wrote:
  I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got banned
  for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another account with
  a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do some conversations
  with a members with which I have enjoyed talking. I successfully
  created account with web proxy, could logging in, but can't post on the
  message board. The message I got was that I am not permitted to post.
  So, I believe that the server can identify me somehow. Any ideas what
  can be done in this situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of
  your insights. 
 
 It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow
 postings from it. 

Or it's possible that the proxy in question sends that funny
X-Forwarded-For HTTP header which contains the original IP *and* the
message board checks it too.

Or the proxy intercepted forum's login credentials so they can be used
to spam the message board in question. The possibilities are endless.

The fine point of the story - don't trust the proxy *you* do not
control. Even if they don't charge you for using it. Especially if they
don't charge you.

Reco


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Re: Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?

2015-06-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 10:11:35AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
 
 That at least got me the menu items I was looking for.
 I'm about to do a reinstall from scratch for other problems. More later.

The great thing about Debian, is that you *don't* have to do a
reinstall. What problem are you having that makes you think you need to
reinstall?

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Re: Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?

2015-06-04 Thread Richard Owlett

Chris Bannister wrote:

On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 10:11:35AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:


That at least got me the menu items I was looking for.
I'm about to do a reinstall from scratch for other problems. More later.


The great thing about Debian, is that you *don't* have to do a
reinstall. What problem are you having that makes you think you need to
reinstall?



I do all my experimenting on a laptop I purchased used for that 
purpose several years ago. It's been doing strange things which 
decades of component level trouble shooting gives me a gut feel 
not to trust the hardware. Then again there's always random 
operator error ;)




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Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question

2015-06-04 Thread Brian
On Thu 04 Jun 2015 at 13:21:09 -0400, German wrote:

 I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got banned
 for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another account with
 a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do some conversations
 with a members with which I have enjoyed talking. I successfully
 created account with web proxy, could logging in, but can't post on the
 message board. The message I got was that I am not permitted to post.
 So, I believe that the server can identify me somehow. Any ideas what
 can be done in this situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of
 your insights.

A *little* off-topic for Debian? This has nothing to do with the OS.
Why should we be interested or involved in sorting out your private
life?


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Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question

2015-06-04 Thread German
On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 22:12:44 +0300
Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi.
 
 On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 19:29:43 +0200
 Sven Arvidsson s...@whiz.se wrote:
 
  On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 13:21 -0400, German wrote:
   I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got
   banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another
   account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do
   some conversations with a members with which I have enjoyed
   talking. I successfully created account with web proxy, could
   logging in, but can't post on the message board. The message I
   got was that I am not permitted to post. So, I believe that the
   server can identify me somehow. Any ideas what can be done in
   this situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of your
   insights. 
  
  It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow
  postings from it. 
 
 Or it's possible that the proxy in question sends that funny
 X-Forwarded-For HTTP header which contains the original IP *and* the
 message board checks it too.

I still think that it is nothing to do with proxies. Might that be that
my computer name is filtered or as I said earlier the whole linux
system is subject to filtering?
 
 Or the proxy intercepted forum's login credentials so they can be used
 to spam the message board in question. The possibilities are endless.
 
 The fine point of the story - don't trust the proxy *you* do not
 control. Even if they don't charge you for using it. Especially if
 they don't charge you.
 
 Reco
 
 


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Re: much longer boot time with jessie

2015-06-04 Thread David Wright
Quoting Michael Biebl (bi...@debian.org):
 Am 04.06.2015 um 06:59 schrieb David Wright:
  $ systemd-analyze blame
  1min 13.144s acpi-support.service
 
 Can you please try and uninstall and purge
 the following packages (not typically needed with jessie anyway)
 
 acpid
 acpi-support-base
 acpi-support
 consolekit

I've purged (in three tranches):

[REMOVE, NOT USED] acpi-fakekey:i386
[REMOVE, NOT USED] libck-connector0:i386
[REMOVE, NOT USED] libpam-ck-connector:i386
[REMOVE] acpi-support:i386
[REMOVE] acpi-support-base:i386
[REMOVE] acpid:i386

[REMOVE] avahi-autoipd:i386
[REMOVE] avahi-daemon:i386

[REMOVE, NOT USED] libavahi-core7:i386
[REMOVE, NOT USED] libdaemon0:i386
[REMOVE] modemmanager:i386

but the resulting timings are not encouraging: 74 to login,
30 to bash prompt, 62 for X.
After the third tranche:

$ systemd-analyze blame
 36.727s wicd.service
 22.102s binfmt-support.service
 20.789s alsa-restore.service
 20.618s lm-sensors.service
 20.565s systemd-logind.service
 20.471s rsyslog.service
 20.468s rc-local.service
 20.465s systemd-user-sessions.service
 20.462s apmd.service
 20.461s virtualbox.service
 20.461s loadcpufreq.service
 20.460s gpm.service
 20.135s bluetooth.service
 19.730s exim4.service
 11.922s timidity.service
  6.523s ntp.service
  5.925s colord.service
  4.376s kbd.service
  4.109s networking.service
  3.461s systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
  3.400s systemd-modules-load.service
  3.257s systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2dlabel-john03.service
  3.215s keyboard-setup.service
  3.027s systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2dlabel-john02.service
  2.947s irqbalance.service
  2.775s nfs-common.service
  2.600s systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
  2.215s rpcbind.service
  1.900s dev-hugepages.mount
  1.808s dev-mqueue.mount
  1.788s resolvconf.service
  1.773s hdparm.service
  1.753s westw.mount
  1.738s sys-kernel-debug.mount
  1.428s systemd-journal-flush.service
  1.420s systemd-setup-dgram-qlen.service
  1.226s user@1000.service
  1.167s cpufrequtils.service
  1.145s systemd-udev-trigger.service
  1.013s aumix.service
   927ms gdomap.service
   828ms saned.service
   658ms kmod-static-nodes.service
   521ms dev-disk-by\x2dlabel-john04.swap
   486ms systemd-update-utmp.service
   381ms systemd-udevd.service
   366ms systemd-backlight@backlight:intel_backlight.service
   310ms systemd-rfkill@rfkill2.service
   310ms systemd-rfkill@rfkill1.service
   310ms systemd-rfkill@rfkill0.service
   287ms systemd-sysctl.service
   241ms home.mount
   218ms systemd-backlight@backlight:dell_backlight.service
   195ms clamav-daemon.socket
   178ms systemd-random-seed.service
   108ms console-setup.service
65ms systemd-remount-fs.service
52ms systemd-rfkill@rfkill3.service
47ms udev-finish.service
18ms proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.mount
 8ms systemd-update-utmp-runlevel.service
 3ms sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount

$ systemd-analyze critical-chain
The time after the unit is active or started is printed after the @ character.
The time the unit takes to start is printed after the + character.

graphical.target @1min 17.390s
└─multi-user.target @1min 17.390s
  └─exim4.service @57.659s +19.730s
└─clamav-daemon.service @57.652s
  └─basic.target @36.880s
└─sockets.target @36.877s
  └─clamav-daemon.socket @36.678s +195ms
└─sysinit.target @36.671s
  └─nfs-common.service @33.893s +2.775s
└─rpcbind.target @33.886s
  └─rpcbind.service @31.667s +2.215s
└─network-online.target @31.661s
  └─network.target @31.657s
└─networking.service @27.545s +4.109s
  └─local-fs.target @27.522s
└─run-rpc_pipefs.mount @36.015s
  └─local-fs-pre.target @12.226s
└─systemd-remount-fs.service @12.152s +65ms
  └─keyboard-setup.service @8.928s +3.215s
└─systemd-udevd.service @8.537s +381ms
  └─systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service 
@5.073s +3.461s
└─kmod-static-nodes.service @4.412s 
+658ms
  └─system.slice @4.406s
└─-.slice @4.405s

I've tried to analyse the Login-BashPrompt time of 30-34 secs.
I added set -v to the start of .bash_profile and the end of .bashrc,
and 

Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question

2015-06-04 Thread German
On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 20:02:34 +0100
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:

 On Thu 04 Jun 2015 at 13:21:09 -0400, German wrote:
 
  I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got
  banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another
  account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do
  some conversations with a members with which I have enjoyed
  talking. I successfully created account with web proxy, could
  logging in, but can't post on the message board. The message I got
  was that I am not permitted to post. So, I believe that the server
  can identify me somehow. Any ideas what can be done in this
  situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of your insights.
 
 A *little* off-topic for Debian? This has nothing to do with the OS.
 Why should we be interested or involved in sorting out your private
 life?
 
 

That is because I use Debian and I think people who use linux is also
conscious about security matters.


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Re: practical difference between main and contrib/non-free package sections

2015-06-04 Thread Reco
 Hi.

Please refrain from personal e-mail. It's considered inapproprate here.
I'm sending this e-mail to the list and suggesting you to do the same
with your original e-mail.

On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 21:38:15 +0300
Mister EpicMannow misterepicman...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you for your explanation.
 I understand now, what problems can one meet, if he deals with non-free.
 So:
 'non-free' packages get security fixes, bug fixes, other changes only when
 it is possible according to license
 'non-free' packages may have no sources available
 in terms of support (except two statements above) 'non-free' packages are
 just like 'main' packages.
 'contrib' packages are in terms of support just like 'main' packages
 ''contrib' and 'non-free' packages will remain in the repositories for as
 long as there are people ready to maintain them, and they get upstream
 upgrades (just like packages in 'main').
 Correct?

Correct, with one exception. If 'non-free' package does not have the
source - it's impossible to fix it. Either the vendor should provide
the fix (and it can take months if not years for this to happen), or
you (as distribution) continue to ship vulnerable software (or firmware
as it all the same in this regard), or you drop the offending package
entirely.

Reco


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Re: Archivos indestructibles

2015-06-04 Thread walter





Cuando un disco falla demasiado acostumbro abrirlo con un desarmador, 
exponer el disco y colgarlo sin tapa de la pared para que ningún otro 
disco se atreva a fallar.



jaujauajuajuajaujauaja.

yo solo le acercaba un iman.. y lo amanzaba...
pero esta opcion es mejor!!


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send logs in plain text NOT as a .doc file (was ...Re: Iceweasel slow to freeze)

2015-06-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 03:39:01PM +0200, notoneofmy wrote:
 On 15-06-04 11:41 AM, Matthew Chong wrote:
  Happens to me as well, was running Skype(hosted in a xterm window),
  iceweasel and wine notepad++. It totally froze gdm. Crashed again some time
  after I restarted gdm, then I just gave up and rebooted, after that the
  issue gone away.
 I have had to restart several times. But the problem remains.
 
 I think the real problem is this. I have lots and lots of lines like
 these in the attached .doc log file.

Could you please not send .doc files as they require a special program
to read them. plain text is preferred then anyone can read it.

e.g. I'm not gonna install a program just to read a .doc file, I'm
guessing I'm not the only one.

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Re: Timeout de un comando que corre bajo sudo

2015-06-04 Thread fernando sainz
El día 4 de junio de 2015, 5:45, Mauro Antivero
mauro.antiv...@gmail.com escribió:
 El 03/06/15 a las 16:25, fernando sainz escibió:

 El día 3 de junio de 2015, 20:38, Mauro Antivero
 mauro.antiv...@gmail.com escribió:

 Estimados, necesito poner un tiempo límite de ejecución a un comando que
 corre bajo sudo. El mismo es el siguiente

 sudo nice iftop -i eth1

 En nuestro caso nice está configurado en sudoers, con lo que cualquier
 usuario puede correr iftop si lo ejecuta de la forma anterior. El teme s
 que
 si hago así:

 timeout -s SIGKILL 5 sudo nice /usr/sbin/iftop -i eth1

 Lo que sucede es que me devuelve a la consola pero iftop sigue corriendo!
 Pero si hago (habiendo previamente agregado el comando timeout a
 sudoers):

 sudo timeout -s SIGKILL 5 /usr/sbin/iftop -i eth1

 Lo que sucede es que iftop como que quiere empezar a funcionar pero no
 sucede nada y a los 5 segundos me devuelve a la consola normal. Lo que se
 ve
 en si es lo siguiente:

 sudo timeout -s SIGKILL 5 /usr/sbin/iftop -i eth1
 interface: eth1
 IP address is: aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd.eee
 MAC address is: aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff

 Ahí se queda 5 segundos y luego sale. Pero por último, si hago como root
 lo
 siguiente:

 timeout -s SIGKILL 5 iftop -i eth1

 Funciona perfectamente! El tema claro está es que necesito que esto se
 puede
 hacer sin ser root.

 Les agradecería cualquier ayuda que me puedan dar al respecto. Saludos y
 gracias!!!

 Mauro.


 No uso sudo, pero se me ocurre que podrías probar:

 sudo timeout -s SIGKILL 5 sudo /usr/sbin/iftop -i eth1

 (Tal vez se necesiten comillas por ahí...)

 S2.

 Gracias, pero no me funciona. Lo que sucede es que muestra la siguiente
 información por 5 segundos:

 interface: eth1
 IP address is: aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd.eee
 MAC address is: aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff

 Y luego sale.

 Cualquier otra sugerencia es bienvenida. Saludos y gracias,

 Mauro.





Lo que te sale es el resultado de la ejecución de iftop como usuario
normal (no root).
De ahí el intento de usar un segundo sudo para la orden que ejecuta timeout.

Tal vez puedas hacer un script en lugar de usar timeout.

S2.


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Re: Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?

2015-06-04 Thread Petter Adsen
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 02:14:36 -0500
Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:

 With Gnome2 under Squeeze there was a users administration tool under
 System-Administration-Users and Groups .
 
 Is there such a tool available for Mate under Jessie?

I know this isn't what you're asking for, but you could have a look at
webmin - it's not included in the repos, but webmin.com has a repo for
Debian that you can use.

It does this, and a lot of other stuff also. I find it useful for
setting up packages and services that I'm not familiar with, since you
can make the changes in the webmin UI and then see what has changed in
the config files.

They also have a package called usermin that is used for setting up
per-user stuff, although I haven't used that much.

Or, closer to what you actually wanted, you could take a look at the
package kuser. Obviously, it's intended for use with KDE, so it will
drag in some KDE/Qt libraries if you do not already have them. I
couldn't find any such tools for GTK with apt-cache right now.

Ubuntu has/had GTK tools for this, I think, maybe it's possible to grab
those and use them on Jessie? No idea what the package is called,
though.

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Re: Archivos indestructibles

2015-06-04 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 04:45:48AM -0300, OddieX wrote:
 Tenes error en la tabla de particiones, pasa un fsck y fijate si siguen
 apareciendo... Si fsck no te tira la opcion de eliminarlos ya fue tira el
 hd a la mierda... El error pasa por que la tabla de particion le dice que
 en tal bloque se encuentra tal dato y ese bloque es inaccesible...

1. Un poco de netiqueta, por favor. Yo no hice la pregunta y además
estoy suscrito a la lista, no tiene sentido hacerme Cc.

2. Si el interesado tuviera mal la tabla de particiones, ni siquiera
habría podido montar la partición. La tabla de particiones *no* dice
en tal bloque se encuentra tal dato, solamente dice la partición
tal comienza aquí y termina acá. Todo lo demás depende del sistema de
ficheros con el que haya formateado la partición (ext4, etc).


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Re: Jessie - Mate - LibreOffice Need larger fonts everywhere

2015-06-04 Thread Richard Owlett

Richard Owlett wrote:

Sven Arvidsson wrote:

On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 15:23 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

2. I want to force a specific default Font Family and Font
Size for cells on
   *ALL* spreadsheets. I can set for specific region of
current spreadsheet only.


This will let you change the default font:
http://os4me.com/open-source-training/libreoffice/calc/set-default-font/




Thank you. That gets me most of the way. I wasn't successful in
saving the template. I suspect permissions issue and/or need to
reread some portion of instructions. Rushed right now, should
know more by tomorrow.



That was *not* the problem.
On initial readS I had had not caught the distinction between
  1. default (read hard coded) behavior
  and
  2. creating a template and then forcing that template to be always
 loaded (i.e. a default template).



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Autologin to X session (Debian 8)?

2015-06-04 Thread Teemu Likonen
Hi!

When my machine boots it logs in to X session automatically without user
login and password prompt. (This is a single-user system with encrypted
Luks partitions and I always enter Luks password when the machine boots.
I'm the only person in the world who knows the Luks password so this is
why I don't need nor want another login prompt.)

Upto Debian 7 I have had this line in my /etc/fstab file:

oma:2:once:/bin/su -l dtw -c /usr/bin/startx /dev/tty8 /dev/tty8 21

It seems that it has no effect anymore in Debian 8 (Jessie), probably
because of the new init system (systemd). So how do I get similar
functionality with the new systemd init system?


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Re: Autologin to X session (Debian 8)?

2015-06-04 Thread Teemu Likonen
Teemu Likonen [2015-06-04 12:26:08+03] wrote:

 Upto Debian 7 I have had this line in my /etc/fstab file:

 oma:2:once:/bin/su -l dtw -c /usr/bin/startx /dev/tty8 /dev/tty8 21

Obviously I meant /etc/inittab file.


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Re: Autologin to X session (Debian 8)?

2015-06-04 Thread Teemu Likonen
Nicolas George [2015-06-04 11:35:47+02] wrote:

 Le sextidi 16 prairial, an CCXXIII, Teemu Likonen a écrit :
 oma:2:once:/bin/su -l dtw -c /usr/bin/startx /dev/tty8 /dev/tty8 21

 So how do I get similar functionality with the new systemd init
 system?

 Someone recently suggested to use nodm; a quick test a few days ago
 seems to indicate it still works.

It works, indeed. Thanks.


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Re: Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?

2015-06-04 Thread Reco
 Hi.

On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 10:11:33AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote:
 On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 02:14:36 -0500
 Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
 
  With Gnome2 under Squeeze there was a users administration tool under
  System-Administration-Users and Groups .
  
  Is there such a tool available for Mate under Jessie?
 
 I know this isn't what you're asking for, but you could have a look at
 webmin - it's not included in the repos, but webmin.com has a repo for
 Debian that you can use.
 
 It does this, and a lot of other stuff also. I find it useful for
 setting up packages and services that I'm not familiar with, since you
 can make the changes in the webmin UI and then see what has changed in
 the config files.
 
 They also have a package called usermin that is used for setting up
 per-user stuff, although I haven't used that much.

Firends don't let friends to use webmin :)


 Or, closer to what you actually wanted, you could take a look at the
 package kuser. Obviously, it's intended for use with KDE, so it will
 drag in some KDE/Qt libraries if you do not already have them. I
 couldn't find any such tools for GTK with apt-cache right now.
 
 Ubuntu has/had GTK tools for this, I think, maybe it's possible to grab
 those and use them on Jessie? No idea what the package is called,
 though.

The package is called 'usermode', and it's hardly an Ubuntu invention.
Said package is provided by Debian main archive since squeeze at least.

Reco


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Re: initramfs

2015-06-04 Thread BasaBuru
El Miércoles, 3 de junio de 2015 12:35:05 Debia Linux escribió:
 Mi pregunta ¿Esto es correcto? ¿Existe alguna otra manera de sacar los
 datos contenidos ahi y reinstalar nuevamente?.

Prueba con esta live parted magic

http://partedmagic.com/

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Rebote de lista

2015-06-04 Thread Javier ArgentinaBBAR
Cuando envían correos a la lista,
¿están recibiendo rebotes de mailer-dae...@ch.gob.cu?
Porque ya recibí un reporte de bounce amenzándome que me vas a
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Re: Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender

2015-06-04 Thread BasaBuru
El Jueves, 4 de junio de 2015 09:10:44 Javier ArgentinaBBAR escribió:
 De nuevo:
 

Pues te lo dicen muy clarito. Habla con el postmaster de servidor de correo

 This is the mail system at host olimpo.ch.gob.cu.
 
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 Cuando envían correos a la lista,
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 Porque ya recibí un reporte de bounce amenzándome que me vas a
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Re: Archivos indestructibles

2015-06-04 Thread Javier ArgentinaBBAR
El día 3 de junio de 2015, 20:27, Santiago Vila sanv...@unex.es escribió:
 On Wed, Jun 03, 2015 at 10:10:59AM -0300, Javier ArgentinaBBAR wrote:
 [...]
 En teoría los sectores defectuosos han quedado aislados.

 Sí, bueno. En teoría, la teoría y la práctica coinciden, pero en la
 práctica, no coinciden.

 Está claro que todavía estás usando sectores defectuosos. Los discos
 en buen estado no dan errores de entrada/salida.

 On Wed, Jun 03, 2015 at 11:12:22AM -0300, Javier ArgentinaBBAR wrote:
 ¿Por qué existen archivos indestructibles?

 Porque están en un *directorio* dañado. La orden rm en realidad no
 borra nada, simplemente elimina el fichero del índice de ficheros que
 es el directorio y marca los sectores ocupados por el fichero como
 libres (en realidad no hace exactamente eso, se encarga el sistema
 operativo, pero eso es lo que sucede a fin de cuentas).

 Si rm falla, el problema está probablemente en el directorio, no en
 el fichero.

 ¿Existe alguna manera de borrarlos?

 Por supuesto, con mkfs.ext4 siempre puedes borrarlo todo y empezar de
 nuevo.

 También puedes arrojar el disco al interior de un volcán en erupción.

 No hay ningún truco para que un disco con sectores defectuosos deje
 de tenerlos. Cuando un disco empieza a fallar, tendrás cada vez más
 sectores defectuosos hasta que el disco no se pueda usar de ninguna
 forma.

 Lo más que se puede hacer es que esos sectores dejen de usarse, pero
 si el disco está en las últimas será pan para hoy y hambre para
 mañana.

 Por ejemplo, puedes probar hdparm --write-sector (busca la forma de
 hacerlo, está documentado por ahí) y forzar la reasignación de
 sectores dañados (ver fila Reallocated_Sector_Ct en el resultado
 de smartctl -a /dev/sda).

 Pero ya te digo que el disco está probablemente en las últimas y lo
 mejor sería dejar de perder el tiempo con él.


Estimado Santiago:

La parte mala es que el disco tiene daños.
Ya hace un par de meses lo borré y le pasé todo el arsenal de manejo
de bloques defectuosos.

La buena, es que, aunque se destruya, no me afecta en lo más mínimo.

Lo mejorcito de todo fue marcar con badblocks, utilizándolo en
conjunto con fsck para aislarlos.
Desde esa fecha, smart mon tools no ha reportado ningún incidente.
De hecho, fue esa herramienta la que en su momento empezó a dar lata y
por la cual detecté que estaba con problemas. Por esa razón lo
reemplacé en la máquina donde estaba como disco principal, y lo colgué
en otra para tontear.

Es evidente que el disco tiene problemas. Lo que también es evidente
que algún bloque inválido se me ha salteado por ahí, y es donde se han
colado esto pocos archivos indestructibles.
Que como las hormigas en patio ajeno, ni me van, ni me vienen.
Me queda claro que la única solución es volver a hacer un formato a
bajo nivel. Pero como en realidad es un disco para colgar tonteras,
así se quedará hasta que realmente de problemas. Por lo menos, sirve
para experimentar.

Muchas gracias a todos.

No cierro el hilo con un [SOLUCIONADO], pues estoy usando a GMail
desde el navegador, y si lo hago, genera un nuevo hilo.

JAP

PD: Me gustó la idea del que proponía desarmarlo, poner las vísceras
en exposición y colgarlo de la parada, para que a ningún otro disco se
le ocurra romperse.


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Varius Default settings

2015-06-04 Thread Ron Benincasa
Since I installed Jesse, programs always seem to open full screen,
how/where  can I change the default behavior so that they come up in size
and position they were when closed. Also how do I change the default
settings on filemanager so that it automatically shows hidden files and in
list mode. I can not seems to find where I can set these defaults they way
I could in Wheezy.

Thanks in advance.

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Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender

2015-06-04 Thread Javier ArgentinaBBAR
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Re: Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?

2015-06-04 Thread David Wright
Quoting Chris Bannister (cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz):
 On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 10:11:35AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
  
  That at least got me the menu items I was looking for.
  I'm about to do a reinstall from scratch for other problems. More later.
 
 The great thing about Debian, is that you *don't* have to do a
 reinstall. What problem are you having that makes you think you need to
 reinstall?

Well I install on my other partition (ie flipping back and forth)
because I don't backup my system. (I only backup any configuration
files that I modify.)

Therefore I need to know that I can reinstall the system from scratch
and that I have any and all of the packages that I preserve from
version to version (xtoolwait springs to mind because this hasn't been
supported since squeeze).

Also I need to know that I can install non-Debian/non-free stuff which
was previously installed when the system was in an earlier state.

The fresh install then becomes my default system, though I upgrade the
other partition occasionally.

At the moment I'm stuck with a single jessie installation because I
can't yet afford to part with wheezy on the other partition. I would
like to see if jessie will run as fast as wheezy if I install it
afresh in an ext4 partition (though I fear the worst).

Cheers,
David.


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Re: Iceweasel slow to freeze

2015-06-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 04 June 2015 14:39:01 notoneofmy wrote:
 On 15-06-04 11:41 AM, Matthew Chong wrote:
  Happens to me as well, was running Skype(hosted in a xterm window),
  iceweasel and wine notepad++. It totally froze gdm. Crashed again some
  time after I restarted gdm, then I just gave up and rebooted, after that
  the issue gone away.

 I have had to restart several times. But the problem remains.

 I think the real problem is this. I have lots and lots of lines like
 these in the attached .doc log file.

 gnome-sgnome session[1249]: (gnome-shell:1388): mutter-WARNING **:
 STACK_OP_RAISE_ABOVE: window 0x5e01200016 not in stack



 Any help is appreciated.

You would get more if you sent legible files.  This is not the Microsoft Users 
mauiling list.

Lisi


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Re: Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender

2015-06-04 Thread BasaBuru
El Jueves, 4 de junio de 2015 14:21:19 BasaBuru escribió:

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Re: Rebote de lista

2015-06-04 Thread Juan Gomez (Txonta)
Yo recibí uno igual. fijate donde dice porcentaje el mio era 0% te avisa 
que si llega a 80% puedes ser baneado


El 04/06/15 a las 13:41, Javier ArgentinaBBAR escribió:

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Re: Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?

2015-06-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 04 June 2015 12:26:03 Reco wrote:
  Hi.

 On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 10:11:33AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote:
  On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 02:14:36 -0500
 
  Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
   With Gnome2 under Squeeze there was a users administration tool under
   System-Administration-Users and Groups .
  
   Is there such a tool available for Mate under Jessie?
[snip]
 
  Ubuntu has/had GTK tools for this, I think, maybe it's possible to grab
  those and use them on Jessie? No idea what the package is called,
  though.

 The package is called 'usermode', and it's hardly an Ubuntu invention.
 Said package is provided by Debian main archive since squeeze at least.

 Reco

lisi@Tux-II:~$ aptitude search usermode
p   usermode - Graphical tools for certain user 
account manag
p   usermode:i386- Graphical tools for certain user 
account manag
lisi@Tux-II:~$ cat /etc/debian_version
7.8
lisi@Tux-II:~$

Lisi


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Re: Iceweasel slow to freeze

2015-06-04 Thread notoneofmy
On 15-06-04 11:41 AM, Matthew Chong wrote:
 Happens to me as well, was running Skype(hosted in a xterm window),
 iceweasel and wine notepad++. It totally froze gdm. Crashed again some time
 after I restarted gdm, then I just gave up and rebooted, after that the
 issue gone away.
I have had to restart several times. But the problem remains.

I think the real problem is this. I have lots and lots of lines like
these in the attached .doc log file.

gnome-sgnome session[1249]: (gnome-shell:1388): mutter-WARNING **:
STACK_OP_RAISE_ABOVE: window 0x5e01200016 not in stack



Any help is appreciated.




systemlog.doc
Description: MS-Word document