Re: multi arch
Hi Mohsen On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh < moh...@pahlevanzadeh.org> wrote: > Dear All, > > I have a 64bit arch and use sid repo, And I need to install some packages > from i386 repo, > I did: > / > # dpkg --add-architecture i386 > #apt-get update > > But when I want to install the following packages, i get the following > errors: > / > root@debian:/opt/oald8# apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:i386 > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created > or been moved out of Incoming. > The following information may help to resolve the situation: > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > libgtk2.0-0:i386 : Depends: libatk1.0-0:i386 (>= 1.32.0) but it is not > going to be installed > Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:i386 (>= 2.22.0) but it is > not going to be installed > Depends: libglib2.0-0:i386 (>= 2.41.1) but it is not > going to be installed > Depends: libpango-1.0-0:i386 (>= 1.28.3) but it is not > going to be installed > Depends: libpangocairo-1.0-0:i386 (>= 1.28.3) but it > is not going to be installed > Depends: libpangoft2-1.0-0:i386 (>= 1.28.3) but it is > not going to be installed > E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. > /// > > How can I solve it? > Try #apt-get -f install This will try to fix broken dependencies. > > Yours, > Mohsen > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a > subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558b9748.80...@pahlevanzadeh.org Greets, Olivier
multi arch
Dear All, I have a 64bit arch and use sid repo, And I need to install some packages from i386 repo, I did: / # dpkg --add-architecture i386 #apt-get update But when I want to install the following packages, i get the following errors: / root@debian:/opt/oald8# apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:i386 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libgtk2.0-0:i386 : Depends: libatk1.0-0:i386 (>= 1.32.0) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:i386 (>= 2.22.0) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libglib2.0-0:i386 (>= 2.41.1) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libpango-1.0-0:i386 (>= 1.28.3) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libpangocairo-1.0-0:i386 (>= 1.28.3) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libpangoft2-1.0-0:i386 (>= 1.28.3) but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. /// How can I solve it? Yours, Mohsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558b9748.80...@pahlevanzadeh.org
Re: Change systemd to not be default in Stretch
On 06/25/2015 12:33 AM, Seeker wrote: Even though the more extreme squeeky wheels generally seem to be absent now, or at least refraining from beating a dead horse, the sensitivity from those earlier "discussions" remains. And, when we finally arrive at Quantum Computing, I'll see a sensitivity module running. In there here and now, we have a decision to use systemd arrived at by our best and most qualified developer/thinkers and it is what we have. My hope it that eventually it proves to become a unifying force amongst the distros. I note that is will provide a re-start-on-fail of containers. That is a good one for me, personally. I adapted and do not see a downside, and I do see an upside. I'm sure there were plenty of "sensitivities" bruised when WinXP bit the dirt. My sensitivities are bruised every time I see a new Cadillac Escalade. It's a station wagon! Yet, for my sensitivities, I get to pound sand. They will not build an '88 El Dorado just for me. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558b9a04.4060...@gmail.com
Re: Change systemd to not be default in Stretch
On 6/24/2015 3:58 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:47:27 -0700 Seeker wrote: Paranoia is the foundation of paranoia, fueled by those who would prevent others from having a choice of using systemd. No-one wants to prevent others from having a choice of using systemd; what some people want is the freedom not to use it themselves. That choice never went away. It just requires reading the release notes and following the relevant instructions in the release notes. There were those few squeeky wheels leading up to, and following the decision to make systemd the default. And some did present the idea that anything remotely related to systemd should be able to be removed from the system. In spite of the fact that nobody seemed to be complaining about the support libraries being pulled in before the decision to make systemd the default init. Even though the more extreme squeeky wheels generally seem to be absent now, or at least refraining from beating a dead horse, the sensitivity from those earlier "discussions" remains. Later, Seeker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558b8484.3010...@comcast.net
Re: network configuration
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:30:02 +0200 Bob Proulx wrote: > Perhaps someone else on the mailing list will have additional > suggestions. Hopefully they will be better than my poor contributions > here. I would suggest getting into the depths of the /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf file. You have to marvel at the mind that came up with that but there is a lot of help and examples and creative ways to use it, on the Internet. -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cv17kvf7lu...@mid.individual.net
Re: Catching an audio stream.
From: Siard Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:30:19 +0200 > I could easily get it with the Video DownloadHelper extension in > Iceweasel. Finding and installing the DownloadHelper was easy enough. > After starting the broadcast, ... The broadcast won't start. After a click on the program, nothing happens. Something is missing. Under Preferences > Applications there is "AVI video". No mp3. No mp4. Iceweasel must need ome other extension. Or another package is needed in the system. Thanks, ... P. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12 Tel +13606390202 http://easthope.ca/peter.html Bcc: peter at easthope. ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/E1Z7vON-Ns-Pf@armada
Re: Flash update
On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 19:15 +0200, Fekete Tamás wrote: > (based upon this, Chrome and > Chromium seems not the same software). Chromium is open source software. Google uses Chromium as the base for Google Chrome. Chromium + Secret Google Code = Google Chrome -laverne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1435195527.7218.5.camel@schrock.email
Re: Catching an audio stream.
From: Siard Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:30:19 +0200 > I could easily get it with the Video DownloadHelper extension in > Iceweasel. Finding and installing the DownloadHelper was easy enough. > After starting the broadcast, ... The broadcast won't start. After a click on the program, nothing happens. Under Preferences > Applications there is "AVI video". No mp3. No mp4. Iceweasel must need some other extension. Or another package is needed in the system. Thanks, ... P. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12 Tel +13606390202 http://easthope.ca/peter.html Bcc: peter at easthope. ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/E1Z7vYV-O3-F5@armada
Re: Gnome-terminal in Mate, How? (more info. and questions)
On 20150624_1151+0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Tue, 2015-06-23 at 14:38 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > I'm running Jessie with Mate as desktop GUI. I notice that Mate > > terminal, which I use a lot, is very similar in function to > > Gnome-terminal. But Mate terminal does not have the function of > > repainting the text in a window when the window is resized. This is > > available when I run gnome-terminal under Xfce4. How can I get that > > feature in Mate? I already have Gnome-terminal installed and it > > works when I boot into Xfce4, but I can't invoke it when I am > > running Mate. Is this a feature, or a bug? > > It looks like Mate is hard-coded to use it's own terminal, at least > from the menus, but you should have no trouble launching gnome > -terminal, either from a shortcut or from an existing terminal. Do you > get any errors? What is a shortcut in the context of Mate/Gnome? No errors are reported to me the user. > > You might also try removing the mate terminal and setting gnome > -terminal as the default. I don't know how to remove mate terminal or how to set "gnome-terminal as default". That is a rephrasing of my original question. ;-) > > Anyway, I thought the mate terminal was just a fork of the gnome one, me too. > so if it can't repaint it's probably a bug. ^^^ well maybe there is some F-key magic that I don't know about... The repaint of text that I want is done by Bash and is already specified in my $HOME/.bashrc AND it works correctly in an Xfce4 boot. My current setup is: Jessie, and both MATE and Xfce4 tasks are installed. I select one or the other at boot-up. The real Gnome-terminal is installed and works properly when I run Xfce4. But I don't actually know which version of Gnome the terminal comes from. Aptitude points to Jessie with no pinning or other fancy stuff. I can get Gnome-terminal/Bash repaint if I open Gnome-terminal inside the Mate-terminal window. But that is not a solution, that is data collection for filing a bug report. Thanks to all, and Best regards, -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150625013353.ga1...@big.lan.gnu
Re: mpsyt (mps-youtube) can't reach YT (no search hits)
On Thursday 25 June 2015 00:35:29 Emanuel Berg wrote: > Lisi Reisz writes: > > Update and upgrade. That might solve your problem. > > I just did and it did. :-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506250118.28149.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Google Chrome and Open-Source derivative listening to me without my approval
NaCL -- Sodium Chloride -- common table salt. That just means you have to add your own!!:-D On 06/22/2015 11:18 PM, Tim Beelen wrote: Wow, thanks! An actual thing I can try. I also found out in the mean time that Chromium does not come with/is not compiled with NaCl enabled (whatever that is) and that would prevent actual execution of the plugin. Thank you for pointing me in the direction of the tools to figure out what program is accessing my mic. On 6/22/2015 8:01 PM, Jose Martinez wrote: Say, maybe a tin-foil hat for the affected system could be designed to prevent this from happening?? :-D On 06/22/2015 05:25 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 10:38:30PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: On 06/21/2015 06:42 PM, John Hasler wrote: Tim Beelen writes: How do I find out which application is accessing what device? It's all software. There is no hardware involved at all: they use a virtual device. It works even when the computer is off. Doesn't matter if your machine has a microphone or even any audio input capability. I would truly like to know how they could manage that. Back in the day, you could make your floppy drive heave and grunt like it was in the throes of passion, but to make a non-audio device turn into a passive listening device?? While turned off?? Pull my other finger! :) Ric You reprogram the BIOS to upload new firmware to the hard drive. That firmware reads the subtle variations in the magnetic patterns that the sound waves have caused (that is, the sound waves "jostle" the data on your hard drive. When the computer boots, the new firmware reads this, recalculates what was said, and passes this to chrome). To be serious to the OP, though, if you're running PulseAudio, run the "paman" program to see what applications are recording and playing audio. Alternatively, you could try a command such as: $ lsof /dev/snd/* to see which applications are using the sound hardware. Note, though, that this won't differentiate between what's playing sound and what's recording sound. As a last resort, consult the code for chromium. -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55877526.7050...@gmail.com -- JM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558b427c.5010...@gmail.com
Re: mpsyt (mps-youtube) can't reach YT (no search hits)
Lisi Reisz writes: > Update and upgrade. That might solve your problem. I just did and it did. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87lhf8isse@nl106-137-147.student.uu.se
Re: mpsyt (mps-youtube) can't reach YT (no search hits)
On Thursday 25 June 2015 00:10:22 Emanuel Berg wrote: > Bob Proulx writes: > > $ cat /etc/debian_version 8.1 > > I have that: > > $ cat /etc/debian_version > 8.0 > > > It looks that your system with 8.0 and not 8.1 is > > behind by the one point release which was released > > earlier this month. > > > > https://www.debian.org/News/2015/20150606 > > > > It could very well be that you are current from the > > security repository which is treated separately. > > But AFAIK security upgrades always assume the latest > > point release and are layered on top of them. > > What? :) Update and upgrade. That might solve your problem. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506250031.7.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Change systemd to not be default in Stretch
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:47:27 -0700 Seeker wrote: > Paranoia is the foundation of paranoia, fueled by those who would > prevent others from having a choice of using systemd. No-one wants to prevent others from having a choice of using systemd; what some people want is the freedom not to use it themselves. Cheers, Ron. -- Verschiebe nicht auf morgen, was du auch übermorgen besorgen kannst -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150624185812.7b45f...@ron.cerrocora.org
Re: mpsyt (mps-youtube) can't reach YT (no search hits)
Bob Proulx writes: > $ cat /etc/debian_version 8.1 I have that: $ cat /etc/debian_version 8.0 > It looks that your system with 8.0 and not 8.1 is > behind by the one point release which was released > earlier this month. > > https://www.debian.org/News/2015/20150606 > > It could very well be that you are current from the > security repository which is treated separately. > But AFAIK security upgrades always assume the latest > point release and are layered on top of them. What? :) -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87a8vok8ip@nl106-137-147.student.uu.se
Re: KDE in Stretch unusable [RESOLVED]
On 24/06/15 12:31 PM, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015, Gary Dale wrote:
root@transponder:/home/garydale# aptitude full-upgrade
The following NEW packages will be installed:
liblz4-1{a} libopenconnect5{a}
The following packages will be REMOVED:
libppl12{u}
The following packages will be upgraded:
cpp-4.4 gcc-4.4 gcc-4.4-base libcurl3-gnutls libgnutls-deb0-28{b}
libgnutls-openssl27
libldap-2.4-2 libpcre16-3 libpcre3 libpcre3:i386 libpcre3-dev libpcre32-3
libpcrecpp0
plasma-nm
The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
network-manager-pptp
14 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 9,080 kB of archives. After unpacking 569 kB will be freed.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
libgnutls-deb0-28 : Conflicts: libhogweed2 but 2.7.1-5 is installed.
Conflicts: libnettle4 but 2.7.1-5 is installed.
open: 51; closed: 2152; defer: 18; conflict: 25
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The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
then offers to remove kde and libreoffice.
I previously tried to remove libhogweed2 but that seems to be the key
package and removing it again leads to aptitude offering to remove kde and
libreoffice.
There's an ongoing transition from libhogweed2 to libhogweed4 and
libnettle4 to libnettle6. Once the packages which depend on this chain
are rebuilt, things should work properly again.
Ideally, there wouldn't be this conflict, but
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=784009 is why the
conflict is there.
Bit the bullet and let aptitude remove things, then I reinstalled a
couple of KDE packages (Konsole and Kontact) that I needed. When that
worked, I tried reinstalling task-kde-desktop. That worked too.
After rebooting into KDE, I still couldn't get Icedove to work. However
it would launch in safe mode, so one of the plugins or extensions works
with Gnome but not KDE. Since I didn't need them, I just removed them
and things are back to normal.
Not sure what lbihogweed is used for, but the dependency around it
hasn't surfaced yet.
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Re: Flash update
On Wed 24 Jun 2015 at 23:14:42 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 24 June 2015 23:05:46 Brian wrote: > > On Wed 24 Jun 2015 at 21:29:35 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Wednesday 24 June 2015 19:10:46 Brian wrote: > > > > Disliking flash is ok. Removing it is not an option for most people who > > > > want to watch a BBC iplayer programme in the UK without taking a degree > > > > in scripting. :) > > > > > > I think even with a degree in scripting you need flash for the BBC. ;-) > > > > I'll have to stop watching it over the internet on my TV, then. That's > > without a degree or flash. :) > > :-) You know that I meant on a computer - but the point about the overlap > between hardware is well made. Relenting - to correct a misapprehension. :) I meant that the processing takes place on a computer without flash installed. In fact, the machine is so underpowered it is unable to run iplayer programmes with flash as people normally do. The TV is for display only. The computer screen could equally well be used. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/24062015232603.e56722863...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Flash update
On Wednesday 24 June 2015 23:05:46 Brian wrote: > On Wed 24 Jun 2015 at 21:29:35 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 24 June 2015 19:10:46 Brian wrote: > > > Disliking flash is ok. Removing it is not an option for most people who > > > want to watch a BBC iplayer programme in the UK without taking a degree > > > in scripting. :) > > > > I think even with a degree in scripting you need flash for the BBC. ;-) > > I'll have to stop watching it over the internet on my TV, then. That's > without a degree or flash. :) :-) You know that I meant on a computer - but the point about the overlap between hardware is well made. Lisi > > We are wandering from the OP's original informational post and I have > tried to make my point about this aversion to flash twice, so I will > cease my participation in this thread now. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506242314.42349.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Flash update
On Wed 24 Jun 2015 at 21:29:35 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 24 June 2015 19:10:46 Brian wrote: > > > > Disliking flash is ok. Removing it is not an option for most people who > > want to watch a BBC iplayer programme in the UK without taking a degree > > in scripting. :) > > I think even with a degree in scripting you need flash for the BBC. ;-) I'll have to stop watching it over the internet on my TV, then. That's without a degree or flash. :) We are wandering from the OP's original informational post and I have tried to make my point about this aversion to flash twice, so I will cease my participation in this thread now. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/24062015230013.1be5ad77a...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Change systemd to not be default in Stretch
On 6/24/2015 6:19 AM, Jape Person wrote: On 06/24/2015 08:01 AM, Zebediah C. McClure wrote: On Tuesday 23 June 2015 18:33:22 Patrick Bartek wrote: Yes, but I still have the following packages installed because I haeven't cleaned them out. You might have them around also. i libsystemd-daemon0 - systemd utility library (deprecated) i libsystemd-login0 - systemd login utility library (deprecated) i libsystemd0 - systemd utility library i systemd-shim- shim for systemd zmc Before "cleaning them out", you might want to do a little bit of research. Hint: My Jessie and Stretch systems running systemd as the init system do NOT have systemd-shim installed. My Jessie and Stretch systems using sysv as the init system DO have it installed. I have wondered if the naming scheme for some of the packages may be part of the foundation of paranoia about systemd as a whole, since one who works hard to rid her/his system of systemd might expect not to see the word sitting amongst the system's package names. But a name is just a name. The systemd-shim package, for instance, is what makes it possible to use sysv system as the init system while still making use of a number of important system functions which have -- for better or worse -- been rolled into packages developed and/or maintained by the systemd project. Paranoia is the foundation of paranoia, fueled by those who would prevent others from having a choice of using systemd. Some number of things require a functional systemd, if you have a different init system handling boot then you need the shim for those things. Some other things have support for systemd compiled in for those who are using systemd, but don't require systemd to function. At the least those would commonly require libsystemd0. Even if the systemd stuff won't be used they would complain if the libraries provided by libsystemd0 were not there. That's the part where the paranoia fueled by those who would prevent the choice to others comes into play. I believe all the packages that are listed as deprecated were providing libraries that have been rolled in to libsystemd0, so there is a good chance they could all be removed, but there may still be some packages that list the deprecated packages as dependencies, so that may vary depending on what you install. Later, Seeker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558b256f.3060...@comcast.net
Re: Flash update
On Wed 24 Jun 2015 at 21:32:24 +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 19:10 +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > Does that include watching the BBC iplayer in the UK? > > I have no idea. BBC iplayer seems to be geo-blocked for us dirty > foreigners. I can offer you an on-demand service for BBC TV for 10 EURO a month, paid a year in advance. That will nearly cover what I have to pay out to use my TV in the UK. The offer is cheap at the price, offers excellent progam quality and it comes with a money back guarantee if bandwidth is insufficient or connectivity is interrupted. > Try it yourself? Invite me to Sweden and pay for my stay and I'll let you know. :) > Also, some sites sometimes provide HTML5 players for other systems > (like iOS) and you can only use them if you fake your browser version. "Don't use flash" is not a solution. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/24062015223557.040a5865d...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Flash update
On Wednesday 24 June 2015 20:32:24 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > BBC iplayer seems to be geo-blocked for us dirty > foreigners. No, you're not dirty. You haven't paid for it, and it isn't free. You have to have paid your British TV licence. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506242131.02321.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Flash update
On Wednesday 24 June 2015 19:10:46 Brian wrote: > On Wed 24 Jun 2015 at 14:05:56 +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 13:32 +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote: > > > Any alternatives? > > > I hate flash! > > > > I simply removed it. Pretty much everyone have HTML5 players these > > days. > > Does that include watching the BBC iplayer in the UK? > > > For the few that don't, youtube-dl usually works. The rest I happily > > ignore. > > Does youtube-dl handle the BBC iplayer in the UK? > > > If you really need Flash for a site there are probably extensions that > > would let you enable it on a per site basis. > > Which extensions (whatever they are) work with the BBC iplayer in the > UK? > > I'm thinking in terms of the normal user who wants to click on something > and watch a TV program, not someone who can write a script to achieve > her ends. > > Disliking flash is ok. Removing it is not an option for most people who > want to watch a BBC iplayer programme in the UK without taking a degree > in scripting. :) I think even with a degree in scripting you need flash for the BBC. ;-) Talking of which, has anyone got 4OD running usably? I have Pipelight, and it will now start to run, but it then stops and demands that I turn adblocker off. I have no adblocker installed. I installed adblocker in order to turn it off, and turned it off, but that still didn't help. Ideas? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506242129.35890.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Unwanted keyring window in GNOME
On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 20:29 +0200, Fekete Tamás wrote: > How can I let Evolution know my wish, that stop doing synchornisationtrials? > How can I make Gnome stop asking keyring password on boot up? And what's the use of a keyring at all(I completely not understand It's a password manager, you unlock your other passwords and keys by providing a master password, or it is tied to your login. Try running "seahorse" thats the frontend for the manager and delete the keyrings there if you'd like. I'm not sure if there's a way to completely disable it though. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
OS X Server Open Directory and joining Debian 8 hosts
I have two Mac's that run Open Directory services a Master/Slave setup. I want to join my Debian 8 linux boxes to Open Directory. Are there any guides on how to do this? Any help from the community? My searches always show how I can join my Mac to LDAP but that's not what I want to do. While I am somewhat knowledgeable in linux, I'm not familiar with LDAP and authentication. Thanks!
Re: Flash update
On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 19:10 +0100, Brian wrote: > > Does that include watching the BBC iplayer in the UK? I have no idea. BBC iplayer seems to be geo-blocked for us dirty foreigners. Try it yourself? Also, some sites sometimes provide HTML5 players for other systems (like iOS) and you can only use them if you fake your browser version. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Flash update
Hi all, >Any alternatives? >I hate flash! I used to do as well, but only in Linux world, until... >> You can also try https://github.com/i-rinat/freshplayerplugin >> A wrapper to use Pepper Flash Player - browser plugin with NPAPI >> browsers like Firefox Yes, I also installed pepperflashplugin-nonfree AND chromium, and flash just got to work Pepperflashplugin can be installed only if you modify your /etc/apt/sources.list You have to add few lines like this into to be able to download pepperflash: #backport deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main contrib non-free (!!!mind to change the wheezy word to jessie if you already use jessie!!!) then su apt-get -t wheezy-backports install pepperflashplugin-nonfree (!!!mind to change the wheezy word to jessie if you already use jessie!!!) I used Chromium with pepperflashplugin-nonfree for a while, but later... >>>I guess the question is is it any safer than the regular plugin? If >>>not, you get the additional hassle of having to update it manually. I removed chromium, because gmail said it has security issues. Google offered me another solution, the Chrome web browser (based upon this, Chrome and Chromium seems not the same software). You can download the google-develeped Chrome from: https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/ You'll get a .deb package. I installed it with gdebi, because it downloads all the necessary dependecies the program requires, if it requires something at all. Then I've just checked the flashplayer on adobe flashplayer site (https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html) The page says I have the latest flash installed, and notice that I don't have to worry about upgrading flash separately, because "Flash Player is pre-installed in Google Chrome and updates automatically!" (https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/flash-player-google-chrome.html) Since I have been using Chrome, maybe I could remove pepperflashplugin with no effect on Chrome, but at this time I haven't tested it yet. - Tamas Fekete wheezy user -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558b018e.6040...@gmail.com
Re: Catching an audio stream.
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > Siard wrote: > > > Does anyone have a direct way to catch the audio stream in a file > > using software in jessie? > > To extract the audio from a .mp4 or a .flv, you can try something > like: > > ffmpeg -i FILEIN -acodec libmp3lame -ac 2 -ab 128k -vn -y FILEOUT > > replacing FILEIN and FILEOUT with the names of your choice. a. You cite the wrong person. I'm not the OP. b. Although the name of the extension is 'Video DownloadHelper', here it is used to save an audio stream as an audio file. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150624204657.3ba1dcc8.shiems...@kpnplanet.nl
Unwanted keyring window in GNOME
Hy all, I use gnome with wheezy and got a problem with a password keyring I never used before. The problem is that after Gnome starts, gives me a window which asks me to give the login keyring (I had to translate the window title, so it might be different in english compared I gave it former, but I hope you can understand what window is I got. The problem is, that I never wanted keyring window pop up after the boot and makes me angry just popping in with no need of its appearance. It came most probably because I tried to configure Evolution to get mails from my gmail, but the program was not able to download any of that, so I decided not to use. I've meet with this keyring windows first on the process of Evolution set up trials. These trials were unsuccessful and I finished the trials but login keyring window still appears on startup, moreover, if I type my user password in it, an unwanted Evolution window also pop-in, because the program still wants to synchronise the Evolution Calendar with my google calendar, which is unneeded because I fed up and left Evolution alone. In order to terminate this problem, I deleted all accounts I made in Evolution. However, keyring window still comes after boot, when I type in my user password Evolution still notify me that the synchronisation with gmail was unsuccessful. So my questions are: How can I let Evolution know my wish, that stop doing synchornisation trials? How can I make Gnome stop asking keyring password on boot up? And what's the use of a keyring at all(I completely not understand its function)? Please help me if you can! - Tamas Fekete wheezy user -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558af721.1030...@gmail.com
Re: Flash update
On Wed 24 Jun 2015 at 14:05:56 +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 13:32 +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote: > > Any alternatives? > > I hate flash! > > I simply removed it. Pretty much everyone have HTML5 players these > days. Does that include watching the BBC iplayer in the UK? > For the few that don't, youtube-dl usually works. The rest I happily > ignore. Does youtube-dl handle the BBC iplayer in the UK? > If you really need Flash for a site there are probably extensions that > would let you enable it on a per site basis. Which extensions (whatever they are) work with the BBC iplayer in the UK? I'm thinking in terms of the normal user who wants to click on something and watch a TV program, not someone who can write a script to achieve her ends. Disliking flash is ok. Removing it is not an option for most people who want to watch a BBC iplayer programme in the UK without taking a degree in scripting. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/24062015185850.e7090924d...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: mpsyt (mps-youtube) can't reach YT (no search hits)
Emanuel Berg wrote: > Bob Proulx writes: > > You didn't say what version of Debian you are using. > > How do I check this? 'lsb_release -a' says: > > No LSB modules are available. > Distributor ID: Debian > Description:Debian GNU/Linux 8.0 (jessie) > Release:8.0 > Codename: jessie Certainly lsb_release -a is fine. Without that I look at the contents of /etc/debian_version where the official Debian version is stored. $ cat /etc/debian_version 8.1 When I am on a foreign system I tend to also look at the release configured in /etc/apt/sources.list too. Because sometimes people do non-standard things there and it gives more details. But it is harder to describe and document. It looks that your system with 8.0 and not 8.1 is behind by the one point release which was released earlier this month. https://www.debian.org/News/2015/20150606 It could very well be that you are current from the security repository which is treated separately. But AFAIK security upgrades always assume the latest point release and are layered on top of them. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Flash update
Hi all, >Any alternatives? >I hate flash! I used to do as well, but only in Linux world, until... >> You can also try https://github.com/i-rinat/freshplayerplugin >> A wrapper to use Pepper Flash Player - browser plugin with NPAPI >> browsers like Firefox Yes, I also installed pepperflashplugin-nonfree AND chromium, and flash just got to work Pepperflashplugin can be installed only if you modify your /etc/apt/sources.list You have to add few lines like this into to be able to download pepperflash: #backport deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main contrib non-free (!!!mind to change the wheezy word to jessie if you already use jessie!!!) then su apt-get -t wheezy-backports install pepperflashplugin-nonfree (!!!mind to change the wheezy word to jessie if you already use jessie!!!) I used Chromium with pepperflashplugin-nonfree for a while, but later... >>>I guess the question is is it any safer than the regular plugin? If >>>not, you get the additional hassle of having to update it manually. I removed chromium, because gmail said it has security issues. Google offered me another solution, the Chrome web browser (based upon this, Chrome and Chromium seems not the same software). You can download the google-develeped Chrome from: https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/desktop/ You'll get a .deb package. I installed it with gdebi, because it downloads all the necessary dependecies the program requires, if it requires something at all. Then I've just checked the flashplayer on adobe flashplayer site (https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html) The page says I have the latest flash installed, and notice that I don't have to worry about upgrading flash separately, because "Flash Player is pre-installed in Google Chrome and updates automatically!" (https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/flash-player-google-chrome.html) Since I have been using Chrome, maybe I could remove pepperflashplugin with no effect on Chrome, but at this time I haven't tested it yet. - Tamas Fekete wheezy user -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558ae59b.2080...@gmail.com
Re: mpsyt (mps-youtube) can't reach YT (no search hits)
Bob Proulx writes: > You didn't say what version of Debian you are using. How do I check this? 'lsb_release -a' says: No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Debian Description:Debian GNU/Linux 8.0 (jessie) Release:8.0 Codename: jessie > That is almost perfect. But it can be improved. > The issue is that the packages installed through pip > (or cpan) like the above installed using all > powerful root privileges might crawl out if > malicious code is isntalled. But root is not > necessary. If you add yourself to the 'staff' group > then you can more safely install those packages as > a non-root user. You also want 'adm' as well so as > to be able to browse log files in /var/log/*.log > without sudo too. Thanks - I'll keep your instructions until the next time I have to use pip3 (or cpan). But I'm neither a Python nor Perl guy (but I don't dislike Perl, for the record). So I hope to stick with the plain Debian repos most of the time. > P.S. I discovered mps-youtube myself recently. > Surfing youtube from the command line has never been > more fun! :-) You better believe it. YT is just a wonderful archive in terms of data. In terms of the interface it sucks. Lucky us it isn't the other way around. "Don't hate the interface, become the interface!" By the way, in the most recent issue of "Linux Magazine" there is a review of youtube-dl. The also mention movgrab, but amazingly the do not mention mps-youtube. I have no experience of movgrab, but the praise for youtube-dl -- it got five "stars", the top score -- is telling as, compared to mps-youtube, it doesn't come with a lot of steam. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87y4j9f2wu@nl106-137-147.student.uu.se
Re: KDE in Stretch unusable
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015, Gary Dale wrote:
> root@transponder:/home/garydale# aptitude full-upgrade
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
> liblz4-1{a} libopenconnect5{a}
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
> libppl12{u}
> The following packages will be upgraded:
> cpp-4.4 gcc-4.4 gcc-4.4-base libcurl3-gnutls libgnutls-deb0-28{b}
> libgnutls-openssl27
> libldap-2.4-2 libpcre16-3 libpcre3 libpcre3:i386 libpcre3-dev libpcre32-3
> libpcrecpp0
> plasma-nm
> The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:
> network-manager-pptp
> 14 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 9,080 kB of archives. After unpacking 569 kB will be freed.
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> libgnutls-deb0-28 : Conflicts: libhogweed2 but 2.7.1-5 is installed.
> Conflicts: libnettle4 but 2.7.1-5 is installed.
> open: 51; closed: 2152; defer: 18; conflict: 25
> o
> The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
>
> then offers to remove kde and libreoffice.
>
> I previously tried to remove libhogweed2 but that seems to be the key
> package and removing it again leads to aptitude offering to remove kde and
> libreoffice.
There's an ongoing transition from libhogweed2 to libhogweed4 and
libnettle4 to libnettle6. Once the packages which depend on this chain
are rebuilt, things should work properly again.
Ideally, there wouldn't be this conflict, but
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=784009 is why the
conflict is there.
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Re: KDE in Stretch unusable
On 24/06/15 08:45 AM, Weaver wrote: On 2015-06-24 21:21, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 24 June 2015 10:23:41 Gary Dale wrote: I just upgraded from Jessie to Stretch. The dist-upgrade went smoothly until I rebooted into the new system then things went wrong. The first thing I noticed was that it complained when trying to start up KDE. It said the kde-plasma-desktop was invalid (or similar) and switched me into the default Gnome desktop. Interestingly, I still had konsole so I used that to try to install task-kde-desktop. That failed with dependency errors so I tried lower-level kde packages and eventually got only a half-dozen packages that needed installing for kde-standard. Once I installed them and kde-standard, I was able to install the full task. Except I couldn't start konsole or icedove when I rebooted and selected kde as the desktop. Iceweasel started OK as did gkrellm (two other things on my desktop session). Trying the same tactic as before, I eventually got to trying to install libgnutls-deb0-28. When I ask apt-get to install it however, it decides it needs to remove pretty much everything kde and libreoffice - 390 packages in all. Any advice on how I should proceed other than abandoning kde? The usual Stretch advice? Wait a few days, then try again? And then another few days, and then try again? If necessary, wait a few weeks, really zap everything KDE, and install KDE afresh? Lisi I'm running Stretch on an Acer Travelmate 6593 with a full KDE desktop, and Gnome desktop on a Dell Optiplex 980. No trouble with either. I don't run 'dist-upgrade' any longer. It's always 'safe-upgrade'. I have no problems with that. I haven't had any problems with an unstable install for years, but perhaps I'm lucky. Cheers! Weaver. Unfortunately safe-upgrade only upgrades packages. It doesn't replace obsolete or deprecated packages. I suggest that the issue isn't with the upgrade used but rather with the packages conflicting (as aptitude says). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558ad721.8020...@torfree.net
Re: KDE in Stretch unusable
On 24/06/15 07:04 AM, Darac Marjal wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 05:23:41AM -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
I just upgraded from Jessie to Stretch. The dist-upgrade went smoothly until
I rebooted into the new system then things went wrong.
Note that Stretch is still in early testing. This is a good time for
maintainers to perform major transitions (that is, upload packages which
intentionally break other packages and then co-ordinate with other
maintainers to compile against the new package).
That said, you can isolate this by checking a few things:
* Do you still have jessie in your sources.list? If you have a mixed
system, you might be fighting with the dependency resolver.
* Check https://release.debian.org/transitions/ in case KDE is
undergoing a transition.
No. I used sed to change jessie to stretch in /etc/apt/sources.list
The first thing I noticed was that it complained when trying to start up
KDE. It said the kde-plasma-desktop was invalid (or similar) and switched me
into the default Gnome desktop.
Interestingly, I still had konsole so I used that to try to install
task-kde-desktop. That failed with dependency errors so I tried lower-level
kde packages and eventually got only a half-dozen packages that needed
installing for kde-standard. Once I installed them and kde-standard, I was
able to install the full task.
Except I couldn't start konsole or icedove when I rebooted and selected kde
as the desktop. Iceweasel started OK as did gkrellm (two other things on my
desktop session).
Trying the same tactic as before, I eventually got to trying to install
libgnutls-deb0-28. When I ask apt-get to install it however, it decides it
needs to remove pretty much everything kde and libreoffice - 390 packages in
all.
If you can let us know what apt-get is saying, perhaps someone can spot
a problem. It may be, for example, that you have an obsolete package
installed which is blocking KDE. For example, say you have a package
"Foo" installed (and not marked as auto), which is no longer in Stretch.
You now try to install "Bar", which depends on "libBar" which, in turn
declares that it breaks "Foo". The dependency resolver looks at what
you're asking it: "I want Bar and I want Foo, I don't care about libBar"
(because libBar will be marked as automatically installed due to
dependecies). The resolver can't install both so it errs on the side of
caution and refuses to install Bar (or else, you tell it you DO want Bar
and it tries to uninstall Foo).
In instances like this, aptitude is great for keeping your system clean.
I recommend keeping any lib* packages marked as auto (because, generally
speaking, YOU don't actually want them - the exception is plugins and
things like perl modules which you need for local scripts). Also check
in the "Obsolete and Locally Installed" section, for anything that's
been removed from Debian since the upgrade.
root@transponder:/home/garydale# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... The following packages were automatically
installed and are no longer required:
liblz4-1 libppl12 task-desktop
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
akregator dolphin kaddressbook kde-baseapps kde-plasma-desktop
kde-standard kde-workspace
kde-workspace-bin kdepim-runtime kdeplasma-addons kmail knotes kopete
korganizer kscreensaver
libbaloowidgets4 libcalendarsupport4 libcmis-0.5-5 libeventviews4
libincidenceeditorsng4
libkdepim4 libkdepimdbusinterfaces4 libkfilemetadata4 libkolab0
libkolabxml1 libkopete4
libksieveui4 libmailcommon4 libmailimporter4 libmessagecomposer4
libmessagecore4
libmessagelist4 libmessageviewer4 libnepomukcore4 libnoteshared4
libpimcommon4 libreoffice
libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer libreoffice-base
libreoffice-base-core
libreoffice-base-drivers libreoffice-calc libreoffice-core
libreoffice-draw
libreoffice-impress libreoffice-math libreoffice-report-builder-bin
libreoffice-sdbc-firebird
libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb libreoffice-writer libtemplateparser4
plasma-dataengines-workspace
plasma-desktop plasma-runners-addons plasma-widget-lancelot
plasma-widgets-addons
plasma-widgets-workspace python3-uno task-kde-desktop
The following packages have been kept back:
libcurl3-gnutls libgnutls-deb0-28 libgnutls-openssl27 libldap-2.4-2
plasma-nm
The following packages will be upgraded:
cpp-4.4 gcc-4.4 gcc-4.4-base libpcre16-3 libpcre3 libpcre3:i386
libpcre3-dev libpcre32-3
libpcrecpp0
9 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 59 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
Need to get 6,774 kB of archives.
After this operation, 331 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
Aptitude offers:
root@transponder:/home/garydale# aptitude full-upgrade
The following NEW packages will be installed:
liblz4-1{a} libopenconnect5{a}
The following packages will be REMOVED:
libppl12{u}
The following packages w
Re: Catching an audio stream.
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:30:19 +0200 Siard wrote: > Does anyone have a direct way to catch the audio stream > in a file using software in jessie? To extract the audio from a .mp4 or a .flv, you can try something like: ffmpeg -i FILEIN -acodec libmp3lame -ac 2 -ab 128k -vn -y FILEOUT replacing FILEIN and FILEOUT with the names of your choice. Cheers, Ron. -- Measure with a micrometer. Mark with chalk. Cut with an axe. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150624115039.1b984...@ron.cerrocora.org
Re: Catching an audio stream.
On Wednesday 24 June 2015 17:30:19 Siard wrote: > pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm interested in the June 22 program listed on this page. > > http://www.cbc.ca/onthecoast/past-episodes/ > > > > Does anyone have a direct way to catch the audio stream > > in a file using software in jessie? > > I could easily get it with the Video DownloadHelper extension in > Iceweasel. After starting the broadcast, click the DownloadHelper > button and the audio file (mp3, 67 MB). > This screenshot might make it more clear: > http://home.kpn.nl/shiems/stuff/downloadhelper.jpg This one also works fine in iceweasel: https://flashgot.net/ Cheers Eike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/9286528.1ok9UfxQg8@lxcl01
Re: Catching an audio stream.
pe...@easthope.ca wrote: > Hello, > > I'm interested in the June 22 program listed on this page. > http://www.cbc.ca/onthecoast/past-episodes/ > > Does anyone have a direct way to catch the audio stream > in a file using software in jessie? I could easily get it with the Video DownloadHelper extension in Iceweasel. After starting the broadcast, click the DownloadHelper button and the audio file (mp3, 67 MB). This screenshot might make it more clear: http://home.kpn.nl/shiems/stuff/downloadhelper.jpg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150624173019.c7947a89.shiems...@kpnplanet.nl
Re: Gnome-terminal in Mate, How?
On 24/06/15 10:51, Sven Arvidsson wrote: Anyway, I thought the mate terminal was just a fork of the gnome one, so if it can't repaint it's probably a bug. Mate terminal is a fork of GNOME 2's gnome-terminal; the gnome-terminal package in Debian jessie is GNOME *3*'s gnome-terminal. But yes, any failure-to-repaint sounds like a pretty clear-cut bug in *something*, though it might not be in the expected place. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558ac45c.3080...@zen.co.uk
Catching an audio stream.
Hello, I'm interested in the June 22 program listed on this page. http://www.cbc.ca/onthecoast/past-episodes/ Does anyone have a direct way to catch the audio stream in a file using software in jessie? Thanks, ... Peter E. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12 Tel +13606390202 http://easthope.ca/peter.html Bcc: peter at easthope. ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/E1Z7ksu-OZ-Ub@armada
Re: Recurring disk activity
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 01:27:10PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > # hdparm -B255 /dev/sda I had disabled this when I wrote the OP, but had not set it in /etc/hdparm.conf. Today I did that and the Load_Cycle_Count seems steadied at 3781, though it is still under observation. When I wrote the OP I got an impression that -B255 isn't helping, because I wasn't aware of Load_Cycle_Count and I measured the disk activity by the following command: iotop -ob --delay .1 This still continues to show kworker doing some activity: 103 be/4 root0.00 B/s0.00 B/s 0.00 % 0.87 % [kworker/1:2] 103 be/4 root0.00 B/s0.00 B/s 0.00 % 0.73 % [kworker/1:2] 103 be/4 root0.00 B/s0.00 B/s 0.00 % 0.70 % [kworker/1:2] 103 be/4 root0.00 B/s0.00 B/s 0.00 % 0.72 % [kworker/1:2] 103 be/4 root0.00 B/s0.00 B/s 0.00 % 0.72 % [kworker/1:2] 103 be/4 root0.00 B/s0.00 B/s 0.00 % 0.69 % [kworker/1:2] 103 be/4 root0.00 B/s0.00 B/s 0.00 % 0.84 % [kworker/1:2] 103 be/4 root0.00 B/s0.00 B/s 0.00 % 0.86 % [kworker/1:2] 103 be/4 root0.00 B/s0.00 B/s 0.00 % 0.86 % [kworker/1:2] 103 be/4 root0.00 B/s0.00 B/s 0.00 % 0.89 % [kworker/1:2] 103 be/4 root0.00 B/s0.00 B/s 0.00 % 0.92 % [kworker/1:2] 103 be/4 root0.00 B/s0.00 B/s 0.00 % 0.84 % [kworker/1:2] What to attribute this disk activity to? I have tried checking using lsof whether any files are changing that fast (such as syslog) but that is not the case. Mayuresh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150624144053.GA10018@odin
Re: experimental.
Experimental is not a complete release. It's whatever the developers want to make available for people to try but that they don't think is ready for Unstable. You could probably set up a complete OS including the DE of your choice using it but you are likely to spend most of your time debugging. The right way to use Experimental is to install single carefully selected packages from it either because you need bleeding-edge features or to help out the developers. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/871th189z7@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: experimental.
On 2015-06-24 23:23, Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 23:11 +1000, Weaver wrote: Right! In that case, it sounds as though /etc/apt/sources.list is arranged differently then. Any clues in regard to that? Not really, by default it is pinned so you need to explicitly tell it to grab packages from experimental # apt-get -t experimental my-buggy-package It's pretty handy, some of the stuff there is buggy/untested, some of it is just waiting for transition. Very good if you need newer kernel or mesa drivers. Great! Thanks for that. Quite different to what I thought it was, so I think I'll keep my Unstable machines for work, and ccreate a Linux-from-scratch project for a learning experience. Thanks to all. Cheers! Weaver. -- "It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." -- Thomas Paine Registered Linux User: 554515 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/7548fb10fab51ce04e3ee588a461f...@riseup.net
Re: Change systemd to not be default in Stretch
On 06/24/2015 at 08:46 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 24 June 2015 13:01:55 Zebediah C. McClure wrote: > >> i systemd-shim- shim for systemd > > AIUI you need that for what you are now doing. I noticed that you > hadn't installed it and wondered how you were OK. Actually, as long as you don't install any programs which rely on functionality "normally" provided by systemd, you can get by just fine without systemd-shim. I've got at least one system that's set up that way, and haven't noticed any issues. (Then again, I also don't run a desktop environment, and I manage my network interfaces with ifupdown and wpasupplicant and so forth.) -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: experimental.
On 2015-06-24 23:36, Jape Person wrote: On 06/24/2015 08:51 AM, Weaver wrote: Greetings all. I have a spare unstable system that I was thinking of jumping up to experimental to play with. Is experimental strictly non-gui, or is there a recommended light desktop that can sit on top? Thanks for any advice to this slow and ancient learner. Cheers! Weaver. From a doubtless slower and possibly more ancient learner -- I haven't used experimental much, but when I did, I found desktop environments to be broken a large part of the time -- broken enough to require version roll-backs of lots of different packages just to get a working environment. In one case I think I had to resort to a full re-installation because the dependency snarl was going to be more trouble than it was worth to sort. Why not try a simple window manager? Much less integration among various components to get messed up during transitions of system stuff. There are a lot of nifty WMs in the repos. I've been meaning to test a slew of them to see if I can learn something. Besides their package descriptions and screenshots at their Web sites, some of the window managers have demos posted on youtube.com. There's something for everyone in the selection. Good luck! Yes, I've found enlightenment very good for that in the past. Nice and light, quick, nowhere near as avant garde as it once was, while enabling you to pick and choose as to which KDE, Gnome, or whatever packages you desired, providing a nice individual, independent set-up. Cheers! Weaver JP -- "It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." -- Thomas Paine Registered Linux User: 554515 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/f3cdea1fb195ecf502e68258a19c9...@riseup.net
Re: systemd, headless, SSH, manual decryption (was: Re: Change systemd to not be default in Stretch)
Christian, Thanks for this. I've printed it on paper for study and reference. It is slow going for me, but I finally have a feeling that I might have a chance at understanding systemd. The printed version is eleven USletter pages. So far, I've gotten to middle of page three. Best regards, pec On 20150623_1852+0200, Christian Seiler wrote: > On 06/23/2015 12:59 PM, Erwan David wrote: > > Note that I use policy-rc.d to check whether the encrypted disk is > > mounted for the daemons that need it (it allows not to change the init > > files) > > That works? policy-rc.d should only affect invoke-rc.d, which shouldn't > be relevant at boot, but only in maintainer scripts. (AFAIK at least.) > > > For what I need to know : I have a headless machine with an encrypted disk. > > I cannot ask the password on console, so > > 1) at boot I do not mount the encrypted disk, and start a minimal set > > of daemons, among them the ssh daemon. > > > > 2) I ssh to the machine then mount encrypted disk and start remaining > > daemons. > > > > How can I do this with systemd ? > > This is a great question because it presents a nice little problem that > covers quite a few of topics regarding systemd. I've sat down and > solved your little problem from a systemd perspective, and hopefully my > solution will help you in understanding how systemd works. > > First of all a couple of very basic explanations: what is a unit? A > unit is anything that systemd manages and/or monitors. Relevant for > our case are the types service, target and mount, but systemd supports > more than that (see man systemd.unit and the references therein for > more details). > > A service unit is probably the simplest to understand, it corresponds > to that which was previously provided by /etc/init.d scripts. I'm not > going to go into much detail here about that. > > A mount unit represents a mount in the system. If you manually mount > something via the mount(8) command, systemd will not interfere, but it > will synthesize a dynamic mount unit for it. So for example, if you > have: > mkdir /mnt/a /mnt/b > mount --bind /mnt/a /mnt/b > Then you can also umount /mnt/b via the command: > systemctl stop mnt-b.mount > (umount /mnt/b will continue to work, of course) > > For manual mounts this is not really that relevant (I suspect even most > systemd developers will use plain old umount in that case), but mount > units are the method systemd uses to handle /etc/fstab: for every entry > in /etc/fstab a mount unit is generated, that's how /etc/fstab is > integrated into the boot process. (See below for further details.) > > A target is in some sense the simplest kind of unit: it can only have > dependencies (and a description), but nothing else. You can achieve the > same thing with a dummy /bin/true service unit. Targets are useful for > grouping things together and also for providing synchronization points. > For example, as is documented in man 7 bootup, there's a target called > local-fs.target that has the semantics that every local filesystem > mount in /etc/fstab will be ordered before it, and so that every > service that orders after it can be sure that local filesystems are > already mounted at that point. (Most services are implicitly ordered > after local-fs.target because by default everything is ordered after > basic.target, which itself is ordered after local-fs.target. You can > override these kind of things if you need to, however.) > > > > How does systemd boot up a system? After doing some very basic > initialization (such as setting the hostname from /etc/hostname and > mounting some essential kernel filesystems such as /proc and /sys), it > will try to start a specific unit, either the default (called > 'default.target') or any unit specified on the kernel command line via > the option systemd.unit=XXX. default.target is a symlink to > graphical.target on Debian, but that can be overridden. (If you don't > have a GUI installed, graphical.target is equivalent to > multi-user.target, in analogy to the runlevels 2-5 on Debian with > sysvinit.) graphical.target itself depends on a lot of things, and thus > all services required for system startup are automatically pulled in. > > > > Now how does one solve the problem you have? There are multiple ways to > do so, but for the sake of simplicity I'm going to show just one, the > one I personally prefer (YMMV). > > The basic outline would be this: > > - tell systemd to NOT automatically decrypt the drive at boot and to >NOT automatically mount it > - create a new target unit that will serve as a new boot target, and >it will only contain ssh + syslog as services (beyond the very basic >early-boot things that should always be there) > - create a second target unit that will pull in the encrypted drive >and the mount and then ulitmately start the original >multi-user.target, thus pulling in all other installed daemons on >the system - that second target wil
Re: Change systemd to not be default in Stretch
On 06/24/2015 08:01 AM, Zebediah C. McClure wrote: On Tuesday 23 June 2015 18:33:22 Patrick Bartek wrote: apt-get install sysvinit-core sysvinit sysvinit-utils apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove systemd Fixed my problems, and gave me a 100% working system. Did you check for any remnants of systemd (libraries, config files, etc.) still hanging around? Months ago while Jessie was still Testing, I installed a NetInstall Base System only in VirtualBox -- No X, no desktop, no window manager, no network manager, etc -- to test converting it to sysvinit (and later to runitinit). After the conversion (exactly as you did), there was still systemd stuff installed. Dependencies, it seems, for parts of the operating system itself. The conversion instructions I followed said this is normal and not to worry about it. Is it the same with your system? Yes, but I still have the following packages installed because I haeven't cleaned them out. You might have them around also. i libsystemd-daemon0 - systemd utility library (deprecated) i libsystemd-login0 - systemd login utility library (deprecated) i libsystemd0 - systemd utility library i systemd-shim- shim for systemd zmc Before "cleaning them out", you might want to do a little bit of research. Hint: My Jessie and Stretch systems running systemd as the init system do NOT have systemd-shim installed. My Jessie and Stretch systems using sysv as the init system DO have it installed. I have wondered if the naming scheme for some of the packages may be part of the foundation of paranoia about systemd as a whole, since one who works hard to rid her/his system of systemd might expect not to see the word sitting amongst the system's package names. But a name is just a name. The systemd-shim package, for instance, is what makes it possible to use sysv system as the init system while still making use of a number of important system functions which have -- for better or worse -- been rolled into packages developed and/or maintained by the systemd project. There may be ways to use a Debian Jessie or Stretch operating system without any packages containing the letters "systemd" in them, but it's not going to be done as easily as merely removing them from the system with the package manager of your choice. I'm all for maintaining some choice in system configurations, which is why I test servers and desktops with different init systems. I'm also playing with BSD and the GUIX OS, the latter definitely not being ready for prime time. Good luck in your endeavors! JP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558aae62.40...@comcast.net
Re: experimental.
On 06/24/2015 08:51 AM, Weaver wrote: Greetings all. I have a spare unstable system that I was thinking of jumping up to experimental to play with. Is experimental strictly non-gui, or is there a recommended light desktop that can sit on top? Thanks for any advice to this slow and ancient learner. Cheers! Weaver. From a doubtless slower and possibly more ancient learner -- I haven't used experimental much, but when I did, I found desktop environments to be broken a large part of the time -- broken enough to require version roll-backs of lots of different packages just to get a working environment. In one case I think I had to resort to a full re-installation because the dependency snarl was going to be more trouble than it was worth to sort. Why not try a simple window manager? Much less integration among various components to get messed up during transitions of system stuff. There are a lot of nifty WMs in the repos. I've been meaning to test a slew of them to see if I can learn something. Besides their package descriptions and screenshots at their Web sites, some of the window managers have demos posted on youtube.com. There's something for everyone in the selection. Good luck! JP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558ab26b.2080...@comcast.net
Re: experimental.
On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 23:11 +1000, Weaver wrote: > Right! > > In that case, it sounds as though /etc/apt/sources.list is arranged > differently then. > Any clues in regard to that? Not really, by default it is pinned so you need to explicitly tell it to grab packages from experimental # apt-get -t experimental my-buggy-package It's pretty handy, some of the stuff there is buggy/untested, some of it is just waiting for transition. Very good if you need newer kernel or mesa drivers. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Empathy unusable
On 06/24/2015 03:58 AM, David Demelier wrote: On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 19:03 +0200, Tim Dengel wrote: Am 12.06.2015 um 18:39 schrieb David Demelier: I have Debian Jessie installed and empathy is just unusable. I just cannot add an account, the combobox is empty in the question "What kind of chat account do you have?" Am I missing something? Empathy uses telepathy to support chat protocols, so I’m guessing you don’t have those installed. Try installing telepathy-haze for example, which contains support for many protocols. Yes, Sorry for the time to answer, I forgot that mail. It works with more telepathy packages :-). Regards, -- David Demelier Apropos of nothing in your discussion, I enjoyed the title of this thread. :) It could serve as the motto of more than one religion and more than one political entity on our contentious little planet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558aaf39.3000...@comcast.net
Re: experimental.
On 2015-06-24 23:03, Sven Hartge wrote: Weaver wrote: I have a spare unstable system that I was thinking of jumping up to experimental to play with. Is experimental strictly non-gui, or is there a recommended light desktop that can sit on top? Thanks for any advice to this slow and ancient learner. Experimental is no complete standalone suite like Jessie, Stretch or Sid. Experimental is an addon on top of Sid and has to be used in conjunction with it. Also you don't just install everything from Experimental, since many packages in there are incomplete or broken or left-overs from past tests or transitions. If you run Sid you can enable Experimental and cherry-pick some packages from there if you (or the DD) need to test something. I for example have to use the Nvidia drivers from Experimental, because the version in Sid is not compatible with my graphics card. But other than that there are no packages from Experimental installed. And once a working version of that package is uploaded to Sid, I won't need Experimental at all. So, conclusion: Experimental does not work the way you think it does and one cannot "jump to experimental". Right! In that case, it sounds as though /etc/apt/sources.list is arranged differently then. Any clues in regard to that? TIA. Cheers! Weaver. -- "It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." -- Thomas Paine Registered Linux User: 554515 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/dbab4ce61e26b8188af26ce2a34f1...@riseup.net
Re: experimental.
Weaver wrote: > I have a spare unstable system that I was thinking of jumping up to > experimental to play with. Is experimental strictly non-gui, or is > there a recommended light desktop that can sit on top? Thanks for any > advice to this slow and ancient learner. Experimental is no complete standalone suite like Jessie, Stretch or Sid. Experimental is an addon on top of Sid and has to be used in conjunction with it. Also you don't just install everything from Experimental, since many packages in there are incomplete or broken or left-overs from past tests or transitions. If you run Sid you can enable Experimental and cherry-pick some packages from there if you (or the DD) need to test something. I for example have to use the Nvidia drivers from Experimental, because the version in Sid is not compatible with my graphics card. But other than that there are no packages from Experimental installed. And once a working version of that package is uploaded to Sid, I won't need Experimental at all. So, conclusion: Experimental does not work the way you think it does and one cannot "jump to experimental". Grüße, Sven. -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/jbngufqi3...@mids.svenhartge.de
Re: Change systemd to not be default in Stretch
On Wednesday 24 June 2015 13:01:55 Zebediah C. McClure wrote: > i systemd-shim - shim for systemd > AIUI you need that for what you are now doing. I noticed that you hadn't installed it and wondered how you were OK. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506241346.56829.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: KDE in Stretch unusable
On 2015-06-24 19:23, Gary Dale wrote: I just upgraded from Jessie to Stretch. The dist-upgrade went smoothly until I rebooted into the new system then things went wrong. The first thing I noticed was that it complained when trying to start up KDE. It said the kde-plasma-desktop was invalid (or similar) and switched me into the default Gnome desktop. Interestingly, I still had konsole so I used that to try to install task-kde-desktop. That failed with dependency errors so I tried lower-level kde packages and eventually got only a half-dozen packages that needed installing for kde-standard. Once I installed them and kde-standard, I was able to install the full task. Except I couldn't start konsole or icedove when I rebooted and selected kde as the desktop. Iceweasel started OK as did gkrellm (two other things on my desktop session). Trying the same tactic as before, I eventually got to trying to install libgnutls-deb0-28. When I ask apt-get to install it however, it decides it needs to remove pretty much everything kde and libreoffice - 390 packages in all. Any advice on how I should proceed other than abandoning kde? I'm sorry, but it sounds as though your fingers might have slipped somewhere in the upgrade process. If it's as bad as you suggest, it sounds pretty much irreparable, and I should look at the gamble of ripping out the KDE base packages, forcing the complete deinstallation of KDE, then doing a new install of the KDE desktop, which should, hopefully, pick up your data in the process. I offer no warranty. Cheers! Weaver. -- "It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." -- Thomas Paine Registered Linux User: 554515 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/3c4dd6680b5d6d5ff9d942d31cd6d...@riseup.net
Re: Change systemd to not be default in Stretch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 12:01:55PM +, Zebediah C. McClure wrote: > On Tuesday 23 June 2015 18:33:22 Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > apt-get install sysvinit-core sysvinit sysvinit-utils > > > apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove systemd > > > > > > Fixed my problems, and gave me a 100% working system. > > > > Did you check for any remnants of systemd (libraries, config files, > > etc.) still hanging around? > > > > Months ago while Jessie was still Testing, I installed a NetInstall > > Base System only in VirtualBox -- No X, no desktop, no window manager, > > no network manager, etc -- to test converting it to sysvinit (and later > > to runitinit). After the conversion (exactly as you did), there was > > still systemd stuff installed. Dependencies, it seems, for parts of the > > operating system itself. The conversion instructions I followed said > > this is normal and not to worry about it. > > > > Is it the same with your system? > > Yes, but I still have the following packages installed because I haeven't > cleaned them out. You might have them around also. > > i libsystemd-daemon0 - systemd utility library (deprecated) > > i libsystemd-login0 - systemd login utility library > (deprecated) > i libsystemd0 - systemd utility library > > i systemd-shim- shim for systemd > Those may well be necessary for your system, because packages you want/need may link against those libraries. You can find out with "apt-cache rdepends " or "aptitude why ". - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlWKpSQACgkQBcgs9XrR2kaEQgCePjphto0r/xjimGkK5VWJh6YI gbUAoIHXx42ilkFJFEoVcsmn7zWZjrho =OPGM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150624124004.ga32...@tuxteam.de
Re: KDE in Stretch unusable
On 2015-06-24 22:48, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 24 June 2015 13:45:53 Weaver wrote: On 2015-06-24 21:21, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 24 June 2015 10:23:41 Gary Dale wrote: >> I just upgraded from Jessie to Stretch. The dist-upgrade went smoothly >> until I rebooted into the new system then things went wrong. >> >> The first thing I noticed was that it complained when trying to start >> up >> KDE. It said the kde-plasma-desktop was invalid (or similar) and >> switched me into the default Gnome desktop. >> >> Interestingly, I still had konsole so I used that to try to install >> task-kde-desktop. That failed with dependency errors so I tried >> lower-level kde packages and eventually got only a half-dozen packages >> that needed installing for kde-standard. Once I installed them and >> kde-standard, I was able to install the full task. >> >> Except I couldn't start konsole or icedove when I rebooted and >> selected >> kde as the desktop. Iceweasel started OK as did gkrellm (two other >> things on my desktop session). >> >> Trying the same tactic as before, I eventually got to trying to >> install >> libgnutls-deb0-28. When I ask apt-get to install it however, it >> decides >> it needs to remove pretty much everything kde and libreoffice - 390 >> packages in all. >> >> Any advice on how I should proceed other than abandoning kde? > > The usual Stretch advice? Wait a few days, then try again? And then > another > few days, and then try again? > > If necessary, wait a few weeks, really zap everything KDE, and install > KDE > afresh? > > Lisi I'm running Stretch on an Acer Travelmate 6593 with a full KDE desktop, and Gnome desktop on a Dell Optiplex 980. No trouble with either. I don't run 'dist-upgrade' any longer. It's always 'safe-upgrade'. I have no problems with that. I haven't had any problems with an unstable install for years, but perhaps I'm lucky. AND you only run safe-upgrade!! Yep, and it works just fine! Lisi Cheers! Weaver. -- "It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." -- Thomas Paine Registered Linux User: 554515 -- "It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." -- Thomas Paine Registered Linux User: 554515 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/42d6b849eb10012395b3124285771...@riseup.net
experimental.
Greetings all. I have a spare unstable system that I was thinking of jumping up to experimental to play with. Is experimental strictly non-gui, or is there a recommended light desktop that can sit on top? Thanks for any advice to this slow and ancient learner. Cheers! Weaver. -- "It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." -- Thomas Paine Registered Linux User: 554515 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/34478a0c5c886e98791c64e84bf88...@riseup.net
Re: Flash update
On 24.06.2015 14:29, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 14:18 +0200, basti wrote: >> You can also try https://github.com/i-rinat/freshplayerplugin >> A wrapper to use Pepper Flash Player - browser plugin with NPAPI >> browsers like Firefox > I guess the question is is it any safer than the regular plugin? If > not, you get the additional hassle of having to update it manually. > I would say it is saver. Pepper Flash Player is the (embedded) flash plugin of chromium. At the moment I use Flashplayer 18.0.0.194 with firefox. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558aa7a5.3040...@arcor.de
Re: KDE in Stretch unusable
On Wednesday 24 June 2015 13:45:53 Weaver wrote: > On 2015-06-24 21:21, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 24 June 2015 10:23:41 Gary Dale wrote: > >> I just upgraded from Jessie to Stretch. The dist-upgrade went smoothly > >> until I rebooted into the new system then things went wrong. > >> > >> The first thing I noticed was that it complained when trying to start > >> up > >> KDE. It said the kde-plasma-desktop was invalid (or similar) and > >> switched me into the default Gnome desktop. > >> > >> Interestingly, I still had konsole so I used that to try to install > >> task-kde-desktop. That failed with dependency errors so I tried > >> lower-level kde packages and eventually got only a half-dozen packages > >> that needed installing for kde-standard. Once I installed them and > >> kde-standard, I was able to install the full task. > >> > >> Except I couldn't start konsole or icedove when I rebooted and > >> selected > >> kde as the desktop. Iceweasel started OK as did gkrellm (two other > >> things on my desktop session). > >> > >> Trying the same tactic as before, I eventually got to trying to > >> install > >> libgnutls-deb0-28. When I ask apt-get to install it however, it > >> decides > >> it needs to remove pretty much everything kde and libreoffice - 390 > >> packages in all. > >> > >> Any advice on how I should proceed other than abandoning kde? > > > > The usual Stretch advice? Wait a few days, then try again? And then > > another > > few days, and then try again? > > > > If necessary, wait a few weeks, really zap everything KDE, and install > > KDE > > afresh? > > > > Lisi > > I'm running Stretch on an Acer Travelmate 6593 with a full KDE desktop, > and Gnome desktop on a Dell Optiplex 980. No trouble with either. I > don't run 'dist-upgrade' any longer. It's always 'safe-upgrade'. I have > no problems with that. I haven't had any problems with an unstable > install for years, but perhaps I'm lucky. AND you only run safe-upgrade!! Lisi > Cheers! > > Weaver. > > -- > "It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its > government." > -- Thomas Paine > > Registered Linux User: 554515 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506241348.41103.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: KDE in Stretch unusable
On 2015-06-24 21:21, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 24 June 2015 10:23:41 Gary Dale wrote: I just upgraded from Jessie to Stretch. The dist-upgrade went smoothly until I rebooted into the new system then things went wrong. The first thing I noticed was that it complained when trying to start up KDE. It said the kde-plasma-desktop was invalid (or similar) and switched me into the default Gnome desktop. Interestingly, I still had konsole so I used that to try to install task-kde-desktop. That failed with dependency errors so I tried lower-level kde packages and eventually got only a half-dozen packages that needed installing for kde-standard. Once I installed them and kde-standard, I was able to install the full task. Except I couldn't start konsole or icedove when I rebooted and selected kde as the desktop. Iceweasel started OK as did gkrellm (two other things on my desktop session). Trying the same tactic as before, I eventually got to trying to install libgnutls-deb0-28. When I ask apt-get to install it however, it decides it needs to remove pretty much everything kde and libreoffice - 390 packages in all. Any advice on how I should proceed other than abandoning kde? The usual Stretch advice? Wait a few days, then try again? And then another few days, and then try again? If necessary, wait a few weeks, really zap everything KDE, and install KDE afresh? Lisi I'm running Stretch on an Acer Travelmate 6593 with a full KDE desktop, and Gnome desktop on a Dell Optiplex 980. No trouble with either. I don't run 'dist-upgrade' any longer. It's always 'safe-upgrade'. I have no problems with that. I haven't had any problems with an unstable install for years, but perhaps I'm lucky. Cheers! Weaver. -- "It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government." -- Thomas Paine Registered Linux User: 554515 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/9649b212ab9ced21a8f62c05c36fd...@riseup.net
Re: Flash update
On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 14:18 +0200, basti wrote: > You can also try https://github.com/i-rinat/freshplayerplugin > A wrapper to use Pepper Flash Player - browser plugin with NPAPI > browsers like Firefox I guess the question is is it any safer than the regular plugin? If not, you get the additional hassle of having to update it manually. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Flash update
On 06/24/2015 at 07:56 AM, Sheepherd wrote: > Hi Rob > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Rob van der Putten wrote: > >> Hi there >> >> Sven Arvidsson wrote: >> >>> Or consider making do without it. :) >> >> Any alternatives? >> I hate flash! > > The only alternative is GNASH afaik, but I don't think its still > being actively developed. > http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/gnash/ There's also Lightspark, which is in alpha / experimental status, but is available in Debian; I have it installed, though I haven't tried it out in some time. browser-plugin-lightspark is the package to install if you want to give it a try. You may need to play around with update-alternatives to get it to be the active Flash implementation, and of course if you install or activate it while Iceweasel is running it won't take effect until the browser is restarted. I've also used Shumway at work (under Windows); it doesn't have broad enough compatibility yet to be really viable for everything, but it works surprisingly well for many basic things. You don't need an experimental Firefox build for it, you just need to grab the add-on from its development site rather than going through AMO. -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Change systemd to not be default in Stretch
On Tuesday 23 June 2015 18:33:22 Patrick Bartek wrote: > > apt-get install sysvinit-core sysvinit sysvinit-utils > > apt-get remove --purge --auto-remove systemd > > > > Fixed my problems, and gave me a 100% working system. > > Did you check for any remnants of systemd (libraries, config files, > etc.) still hanging around? > > Months ago while Jessie was still Testing, I installed a NetInstall > Base System only in VirtualBox -- No X, no desktop, no window manager, > no network manager, etc -- to test converting it to sysvinit (and later > to runitinit). After the conversion (exactly as you did), there was > still systemd stuff installed. Dependencies, it seems, for parts of the > operating system itself. The conversion instructions I followed said > this is normal and not to worry about it. > > Is it the same with your system? Yes, but I still have the following packages installed because I haeven't cleaned them out. You might have them around also. i libsystemd-daemon0 - systemd utility library (deprecated) i libsystemd-login0 - systemd login utility library (deprecated) i libsystemd0 - systemd utility library i systemd-shim- shim for systemd zmc -- Ensis Technologies www.ensistech.com 1-888-373-9056 -- Confidentiality & Privilege Note: This email and any files transmitted with it contain confidential and/or privileged information belonging to Ensis Technologies Inc.. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited without the authorization of the sender. If you are not the intended recipient (or responsible for delivery for such person), you should destroy this message and may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, please kindly notify the sender immediately by telephone at (888) 373-9056. Any views expressed in this communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states otherwise. Nota de confidencialidad: Este correo electrónico y los documentos que lo acompañan contienen información confidencial y privilegiada para uso exclusivo de la persona o agencia a la que van dirigidos. Esta información confidencial está protegida por la ley de políticas de privacidad, y su distribución, diseminación o copia sin la debida autorización de quién los envía están estrictamente prohibidos. Si usted no es la persona a la que van dirigidos (ó la persona responsable de entregarlos a esa persona) debe destruir este mensaje y notificarlo de inmediato a Ensis Technologies Inc. al (888) 373-9056. Cualquier opinión expresada en esta comunicación es opinión del individuo que lo envía, excepto en los casos en que se especifica lo contrario. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/6903456.xQAYdGzavs@strata
Re: Flash update
You can also try https://github.com/i-rinat/freshplayerplugin A wrapper to use Pepper Flash Player - browser plugin with NPAPI browsers like Firefox Regards, basti On 24.06.2015 14:07, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 13:32 +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote: >> Any alternatives? >> I hate flash! > Oh, and there is Shumway in Firefox/Iceweasel that sounds promising, > but I think you need to get an experimental build to try it out > https://wiki.mozilla.org/Shumway > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558aa018.6070...@arcor.de
Re: Flash update
On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 13:32 +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote: > Any alternatives? > I hate flash! Oh, and there is Shumway in Firefox/Iceweasel that sounds promising, but I think you need to get an experimental build to try it out https://wiki.mozilla.org/Shumway -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Flash update
On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 13:32 +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote: > Any alternatives? > I hate flash! I simply removed it. Pretty much everyone have HTML5 players these days. For the few that don't, youtube-dl usually works. The rest I happily ignore. If you really need Flash for a site there are probably extensions that would let you enable it on a per site basis. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Gnome-terminal in Mate, How?
Sven Arvidsson wrote: ... > Anyway, I thought the mate terminal was just a fork of the gnome one, > so if it can't repaint it's probably a bug. i used gnome-terminal some time ago while running Mate and i don't recall there being any problem other than having to set up a menu entry for it. songbird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/aghq5c-835@id-306963.user.uni-berlin.de
Re: Flash update
Hi Rob On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Rob van der Putten wrote: > Hi there > > > Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > Or consider making do without it. :) >> > > Any alternatives? > I hate flash! > The only alternative is GNASH afaik, but I don't think its still being actively developed. http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/gnash/ Greets, Olivier
Re: Flash update
Hi there Sven Arvidsson wrote: Or consider making do without it. :) Any alternatives? I hate flash! Flash seems to be in a category of its own when it comes to security problems. Indeed. Regards, Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/mme4gj$2rl$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: KDE in Stretch unusable
On Wednesday 24 June 2015 10:23:41 Gary Dale wrote: > I just upgraded from Jessie to Stretch. The dist-upgrade went smoothly > until I rebooted into the new system then things went wrong. > > The first thing I noticed was that it complained when trying to start up > KDE. It said the kde-plasma-desktop was invalid (or similar) and > switched me into the default Gnome desktop. > > Interestingly, I still had konsole so I used that to try to install > task-kde-desktop. That failed with dependency errors so I tried > lower-level kde packages and eventually got only a half-dozen packages > that needed installing for kde-standard. Once I installed them and > kde-standard, I was able to install the full task. > > Except I couldn't start konsole or icedove when I rebooted and selected > kde as the desktop. Iceweasel started OK as did gkrellm (two other > things on my desktop session). > > Trying the same tactic as before, I eventually got to trying to install > libgnutls-deb0-28. When I ask apt-get to install it however, it decides > it needs to remove pretty much everything kde and libreoffice - 390 > packages in all. > > Any advice on how I should proceed other than abandoning kde? The usual Stretch advice? Wait a few days, then try again? And then another few days, and then try again? If necessary, wait a few weeks, really zap everything KDE, and install KDE afresh? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506241221.44223.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Gnome-terminal in Mate, How?
On 06/24/2015 09:08 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 02:38:17PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: I'm running Jessie with Mate as desktop GUI. I notice that Mate terminal, which I use a lot, is very similar in function to Gnome-terminal. But Mate terminal does not have the function of repainting the text in a window when the window is resized. This potentially sounds like a bug: can you explain it a little more (I have the feeling I didn't understand exactly what you are describing)? I am using Jessie in two PowerPC (G4 and QuadCore G5) machines with MATE and I do not recall anything like that. Maybe a videocard issue? Compositor?? My systems are: - PowerPC G4 Laptop Powerbook @1.5Ghz with ATI Technologies Radeon 9700 Mobility - PowerPC G5 QuadCore @2.5Ghz with NVIDIA GeForce 6600 with 256MB of GDDR SDRAM, one single-link DVI port, and one dual-link DVI port Best regards, -- Eurek s.r.l. | Electronic Engineering| http://www.eurek.it via Celletta 8/B, 40026 Imola, Italy | Phone: +39-(0)542-609120 p.iva 00690621206 - c.f. 04020030377 | Fax: +39-(0)542-609212 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558a8faf.1050...@eurek.it
Re: KDE in Stretch unusable
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 05:23:41AM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > I just upgraded from Jessie to Stretch. The dist-upgrade went smoothly until > I rebooted into the new system then things went wrong. Note that Stretch is still in early testing. This is a good time for maintainers to perform major transitions (that is, upload packages which intentionally break other packages and then co-ordinate with other maintainers to compile against the new package). That said, you can isolate this by checking a few things: * Do you still have jessie in your sources.list? If you have a mixed system, you might be fighting with the dependency resolver. * Check https://release.debian.org/transitions/ in case KDE is undergoing a transition. > > The first thing I noticed was that it complained when trying to start up > KDE. It said the kde-plasma-desktop was invalid (or similar) and switched me > into the default Gnome desktop. > > Interestingly, I still had konsole so I used that to try to install > task-kde-desktop. That failed with dependency errors so I tried lower-level > kde packages and eventually got only a half-dozen packages that needed > installing for kde-standard. Once I installed them and kde-standard, I was > able to install the full task. > > Except I couldn't start konsole or icedove when I rebooted and selected kde > as the desktop. Iceweasel started OK as did gkrellm (two other things on my > desktop session). > > Trying the same tactic as before, I eventually got to trying to install > libgnutls-deb0-28. When I ask apt-get to install it however, it decides it > needs to remove pretty much everything kde and libreoffice - 390 packages in > all. If you can let us know what apt-get is saying, perhaps someone can spot a problem. It may be, for example, that you have an obsolete package installed which is blocking KDE. For example, say you have a package "Foo" installed (and not marked as auto), which is no longer in Stretch. You now try to install "Bar", which depends on "libBar" which, in turn declares that it breaks "Foo". The dependency resolver looks at what you're asking it: "I want Bar and I want Foo, I don't care about libBar" (because libBar will be marked as automatically installed due to dependecies). The resolver can't install both so it errs on the side of caution and refuses to install Bar (or else, you tell it you DO want Bar and it tries to uninstall Foo). In instances like this, aptitude is great for keeping your system clean. I recommend keeping any lib* packages marked as auto (because, generally speaking, YOU don't actually want them - the exception is plugins and things like perl modules which you need for local scripts). Also check in the "Obsolete and Locally Installed" section, for anything that's been removed from Debian since the upgrade. > > Any advice on how I should proceed other than abandoning kde? > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject > of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558a771d.3000...@torfree.net > -- For more information, please reread. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Flash update
On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 11:54 +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote: > Hi there > > > For i386 the new version is; > http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.2.202.468/ins > tall_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz Or consider making do without it. :) Flash seems to be in a category of its own when it comes to security problems. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Flash update
Hi there For i386 the new version is; http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/11.2.202.468/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz Regards, Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/mmdup9$58a$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Gnome-terminal in Mate, How?
On Tue, 2015-06-23 at 14:38 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > I'm running Jessie with Mate as desktop GUI. I notice that Mate > terminal, which I use a lot, is very similar in function to > Gnome-terminal. But Mate terminal does not have the function of > repainting the text in a window when the window is resized. This is > available when I run gnome-terminal under Xfce4. How can I get that > feature in Mate? I already have Gnome-terminal installed and it > works when I boot into Xfce4, but I can't invoke it when I am > running Mate. Is this a feature, or a bug? It looks like Mate is hard-coded to use it's own terminal, at least from the menus, but you should have no trouble launching gnome -terminal, either from a shortcut or from an existing terminal. Do you get any errors? You might also try removing the mate terminal and setting gnome -terminal as the default. Anyway, I thought the mate terminal was just a fork of the gnome one, so if it can't repaint it's probably a bug. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: OT: Can lot of RAM can slow down a calculation workstation?
On 6/23/15, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 06:24:52PM +0530, rajiv chavan wrote: >> Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:16:51 +0530 >> >> Is calculation memory/cpu cycle intensive? >> Consider a faster (and multi-core) processor with more cache? > > Agreed -- but I think you wanted to reply to list or to the original > poster, Dan. > > regards > - -- t > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAlWJjlEACgkQBcgs9XrR2kZHxQCfaeDakuB+6QOlYLS8nkQ9DNae > q84An3xu7OoKkfTSrpdyRL+Nbj8ApCyI > =/S4F > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > Thank you Tomas. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/calm+mzs8urxfwkgvzkqbhd3o_eoq_bccgu8vtj1-_pn2q2h...@mail.gmail.com
KDE in Stretch unusable
I just upgraded from Jessie to Stretch. The dist-upgrade went smoothly until I rebooted into the new system then things went wrong. The first thing I noticed was that it complained when trying to start up KDE. It said the kde-plasma-desktop was invalid (or similar) and switched me into the default Gnome desktop. Interestingly, I still had konsole so I used that to try to install task-kde-desktop. That failed with dependency errors so I tried lower-level kde packages and eventually got only a half-dozen packages that needed installing for kde-standard. Once I installed them and kde-standard, I was able to install the full task. Except I couldn't start konsole or icedove when I rebooted and selected kde as the desktop. Iceweasel started OK as did gkrellm (two other things on my desktop session). Trying the same tactic as before, I eventually got to trying to install libgnutls-deb0-28. When I ask apt-get to install it however, it decides it needs to remove pretty much everything kde and libreoffice - 390 packages in all. Any advice on how I should proceed other than abandoning kde? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558a771d.3000...@torfree.net
Re: Change systemd to not be default in Stretch
On 24/06/15 00:48, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: Will the same pinning prevent systemd from installing when I dist-upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie ? Yes. This procedure is *clearly stated* in the official Release Notes for Debian jessie. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558a6170.8070...@zen.co.uk
Re: Empathy unusable
On Fri, 2015-06-12 at 19:03 +0200, Tim Dengel wrote: > Am 12.06.2015 um 18:39 schrieb David Demelier: > > I have Debian Jessie installed and empathy is just unusable. I just > > cannot add an account, the combobox is empty in the question "What kind > > of chat account do you have?" > > > > Am I missing something? > > Empathy uses telepathy to support chat protocols, so I’m guessing you > don’t have those installed. Try installing telepathy-haze for example, > which contains support for many protocols. Yes, Sorry for the time to answer, I forgot that mail. It works with more telepathy packages :-). Regards, -- David Demelier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1435132680.1342.0.ca...@gmail.com
Re: Gnome-terminal in Mate, How?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 02:38:17PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > I'm running Jessie with Mate as desktop GUI. I notice that Mate > terminal, which I use a lot, is very similar in function to > Gnome-terminal. But Mate terminal does not have the function of > repainting the text in a window when the window is resized. This potentially sounds like a bug: can you explain it a little more (I have the feeling I didn't understand exactly what you are describing)? Thanks - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlWKV1EACgkQBcgs9XrR2kbSWgCcCT80AXqFKUc/gZ1cMNnLY0SF saAAnik8amELzwG9DTT5mewlGYZCgrYT =k1PX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150624070801.ga22...@tuxteam.de
