Re: Flash update
On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 02:54:26 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 26 June 2015 13:34:00 Brian wrote: [Beware! Rampant snipping in progress] On Fri 26 Jun 2015 at 09:38:53 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: How do you live stream BBC iPlayer on a computer without the use of Flash? A well formulated question. :) Think in these terms: 1. Using iplayer with flash involves downloading a file. 2. Wouldn't it be nice if the file could be downloaded, preferably using a program which is in a package in the Debian archives? 3. Such a package has been mentioned in this thread. It is extensively documented at the program's home page and in its manual. 4. The file being downloaded is a .flv. While it is being downloaded it is being stored on disk so it can be accessed and viewed. vlc is one player which can view .flv files. That's not live streaming. So it isn't how to live stream BBC iPlayer on a computer without the use of Flash. It is of course, a way of playing BBC iPlayer. But I am quite happy to use Flash. I'd rather use Open Source, but I also want both to live stream and to keep my nose. Eh? You'd have to explain. The stream is being displayed by vlc while it is being downloaded. It doesn't get more live than that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/27062015085355.9cd0fcff7...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Flash update
On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 09:45:02 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 27 June 2015 08:58:44 Brian wrote: On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 02:54:26 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 26 June 2015 13:34:00 Brian wrote: [Beware! Rampant snipping in progress] On Fri 26 Jun 2015 at 09:38:53 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: How do you live stream BBC iPlayer on a computer without the use of Flash? A well formulated question. :) Think in these terms: 1. Using iplayer with flash involves downloading a file. 2. Wouldn't it be nice if the file could be downloaded, preferably using a program which is in a package in the Debian archives? 3. Such a package has been mentioned in this thread. It is extensively documented at the program's home page and in its manual. 4. The file being downloaded is a .flv. While it is being downloaded it is being stored on disk so it can be accessed and viewed. vlc is one player which can view .flv files. That's not live streaming. So it isn't how to live stream BBC iPlayer on a computer without the use of Flash. It is of course, a way of playing BBC iPlayer. But I am quite happy to use Flash. I'd rather use Open Source, but I also want both to live stream and to keep my nose. Eh? You'd have to explain. The stream is being displayed by vlc while it is being downloaded. It doesn't get more live than that. Then you have gone beyond my present technical knowledge so I'll have a good look at it after I have cracked 4OD. I thought that one had to download first. You appear to be thinking in terms of downloading being the completed, stored product (I downloaded a .deb file) rather than a process. It ws you who had failed to explain. Hints and then let the child solve the problem for himself are certainly the best way to teach. But only if the child knows what to try and do. The principle was brilliantly explained. How you apply it is up to you. To illustrate it I would do: 1. Open a terminal and issue the command wget http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2014/mini-debconf-barcelona/The_Earth_is_not_flat_and_other_heresies_by_Allison_Randal.webm 2. In a second terminal vlc ~/The_Earth_is_not_flat_and_other_heresies_by_Allison_Randal.webm So OK, you win! But the other people I know who use get-iplayer regularly have been having problems recently which I understood were the BBC deliberately moving the goal post to stop them. Are you not or is that not so? I hadn't realised this was a game of winners and losers. But in fact you win because you are now in possession of some knowledge you didn't have before. I have the same problems others have when things change. Usually I can relocate the goalposts with a bit of effort. Ah! I am very out of date! http://linuxcentre.net/getiplayer But here is where I was at (I had in fact read this earlier): http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-support-for-open-source it sounds great and worth an effort. So, thank you. But I'll get 4OD going one way or another first. http://linuxcentre.net/ is no longer the development or distribution centre for get_iplayer. I'd suggest abandoning pipelight and going with the Linux version of flash plus the hal packages would be a route to success. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/27062015103045.3a4c131fd...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Flash update
On Saturday 27 June 2015 08:58:44 Brian wrote: On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 02:54:26 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 26 June 2015 13:34:00 Brian wrote: [Beware! Rampant snipping in progress] On Fri 26 Jun 2015 at 09:38:53 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: How do you live stream BBC iPlayer on a computer without the use of Flash? A well formulated question. :) Think in these terms: 1. Using iplayer with flash involves downloading a file. 2. Wouldn't it be nice if the file could be downloaded, preferably using a program which is in a package in the Debian archives? 3. Such a package has been mentioned in this thread. It is extensively documented at the program's home page and in its manual. 4. The file being downloaded is a .flv. While it is being downloaded it is being stored on disk so it can be accessed and viewed. vlc is one player which can view .flv files. That's not live streaming. So it isn't how to live stream BBC iPlayer on a computer without the use of Flash. It is of course, a way of playing BBC iPlayer. But I am quite happy to use Flash. I'd rather use Open Source, but I also want both to live stream and to keep my nose. Eh? You'd have to explain. The stream is being displayed by vlc while it is being downloaded. It doesn't get more live than that. Then you have gone beyond my present technical knowledge so I'll have a good look at it after I have cracked 4OD. I thought that one had to download first. It ws you who had failed to explain. Hints and then let the child solve the problem for himself are certainly the best way to teach. But only if the child knows what to try and do. So OK, you win! But the other people I know who use get-iplayer regularly have been having problems recently which I understood were the BBC deliberately moving the goal post to stop them. Are you not or is that not so? Ah! I am very out of date! http://linuxcentre.net/getiplayer But here is where I was at (I had in fact read this earlier): http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-support-for-open-source it sounds great and worth an effort. So, thank you. But I'll get 4OD going one way or another first. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506270945.02553.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: CUPS error message, device already exists
On 06/27/2015 01:16 AM, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 03:46:48 -0400 Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net wrote: On 26/06/15 01:37 AM, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: I'm not sure if this is meaningful, but it would be nice to fix it. failed to CreateDevice: org.freedesktop.ColorManager.AlreadyExists:device id 'cups-DCP8110DN' already exists Googling turns up lots of hits, not a one of which has been helpful so far. Brian What exactly is your complaint? Does the device id not exist? My complaint is that CUPS is complaining. if it doesn't matter - then why is it complaining ? I've been using cups for a decade and have not encountered that particular error. Perhaps something in your setup has become corrupted. you must be joking. the intertubes are full of reports of that warning, so this is not just a 0.01% thing. Perhaps you did an upgrade and your old ID wants to be used by the new device it wants to install, Kinda like the eth0 and eth1 udev problem. It sees upgrade and old devices, so it creates (or attempts to create) a new device. -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558e680c.9040...@gmail.com
Re: apt-get dist-upgrade de Wheezy vers Jessie
Le Sat, 27 Jun 2015 07:08:49 + (UTC), fred f.r...@yahoo.fr a écrit : Bonsoir Bernard, je ne comprends pas bien ta réponse, tu veux bien en dire plus ?Merci !Fred sudo -s apt-get install apt aptitude dpkg libc6 slt bernard Bonjour Bernard, tu veux dire qu'il faut mettre à jour les paquets que tu cites avant un dist-upgrade ?Merci,Fred bonjour, il faut mettre à jour les paquets que je cite avant de faire un dist-upgrade mode opératoire : sudo -s apt-get update --fix-missing apt-get install apt aptitude dpkg libc6 apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150627101525.1ad6181d.bernard.schoenac...@free.fr
Re: auto-mount NFS shares on boot
On 15-06-26 5:42 PM, Jonas Meurer wrote: Problem seems to be that the NFS mounts are mounted directly after the root fs, before the network is set up properly. Also, the mountnfs if-up.d hook from /etc/network/if-up.d/mountnfs doesn't work for systemd systems. Here's the relevant output from the boot console: [FAILED] Failed to mount /var/vmail. See 'systemctl status var-vmail.mount' for details. [DEPEND] Dependency failed for Remote File Systems. Starting Trigger Flushing of Journal to Persistent Storage... Starting LSB: Prepare console... And 'systemctl status var-vmail.mount' reveils: Process: 352 ExecMount=/bin/mount -n nfs1.freesources.org:/vmail /var/vmail -t nfs4 -o sec=krb5i,bg (code=exited, status=32) I just wanted to say that I noticed the same here. That's all. I ignored them, as much later all the shares mounted. But I'd been thinking of finding a solution. Glad to see you started this thread, which I will monitor. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558e48bc.8080...@gmx.de
Re: apt-get dist-upgrade de Wheezy vers Jessie
bonjour, il faut mettre à jour les paquets que je cite avant de faire un dist-upgrade mode opératoire : sudo -s apt-get update --fix-missing apt-get install apt aptitude dpkg libc6 apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade slt bernard Ok merci pour l'info Bernard. Parcontre sudo -s pour quelle utilité ?Quand il s'agit de modifier le système à ce point, c'est root qui s'en occupe ici.. Merci,Fred
Re: apt-get dist-upgrade de Wheezy vers Jessie
Bonsoir Bernard, je ne comprends pas bien ta réponse, tu veux bien en dire plus ?Merci !Fred sudo -s apt-get install apt aptitude dpkg libc6 slt bernard Bonjour Bernard, tu veux dire qu'il faut mettre à jour les paquets que tu cites avant un dist-upgrade ?Merci,Fred
Re: Connecting laptop to internet via cell network
On 06/26/2015 06:52 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 26 June 2015 22:54:37 Brian wrote: On Fri 26 Jun 2015 at 22:06:26 +0100, Joe wrote: On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:55:07 -0500 Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Thu, 2015-06-25 at 09:06 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for a USB modem for cell network (preferred) or a WiFi hot spot (minimally acceptable). Where might I find info on what works cleanly with Debian. I'm in a medium size city in SW Missouri (multiple carriers available). Other usage will be along interstates in eastern U.S. Try http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/ The links from that URL should prove very educational. I've got a couple days of reading to do ;) and see if you can find a device in this list http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/device_reference.txt There's a couple here: https://wiki.debian.org/Modem I have a Huawei/ZTE modem which I used a few times in the last week on sid. Unfortunately, I've been using it on Windows and Linux for least five years, and it will therefore be unobtainable today. The trick is to find what chipset a modem uses, which can be difficult, after that it is relatively easy to find out if there is a driver, if anyone has problems, etc. Yes and no. Communication carriers rarely adverise the chipsets in what they sell. The first thing is to look for coverage for what you need. In the US Verizon looks appealing. Then you look at what they sell. Then you look at what Linux users say about they sell. Then you buy after verifying the chipset in the modem (which someone is bound to mention) is Linux compatible. Thank you Brian. That is a very useful summary for if I ever need/want a 2/3/4G dongle. Not that I'm likely to do so with the sort of coverage there is over the places I'm likely to be!! 4G?? I'd settle for being able to make an ordinary mobile 'phone call! I found an Alltel Bag phone by Motorola. 4 watts! I'd be able to talk to the moon! Alas, Verizon bought Alltel and no longer support that phone. Sorry devils, it does have a computer port I was hoping to use, Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558e669f.70...@gmail.com
Re: auto-mount NFS shares on boot
Hi Sven, Am 26.06.2015 um 19:28 schrieb Sven Joachim: On 2015-06-26 18:38 +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: # grep nfs /etc/fstab nfs-server:/vmail /var/vmail nfs4 _netdev,sec=krb5i,bg 0 0 results in unmounted NFS shares after reboot and: Jun 26 16:29:02 clt mount[352]: mount.nfs4: an incorrect mount option was specified mount.nfs4 prints this not very enlightening message if the mount syscall fails with EINVAL. Very helpful ;) Thanks for the hint. At least it's good to know that my fstab options are not the problem here. Maybe systemd uses an own impementation of mount.nfs4 and that doesn't support the 'sec=krb5i' option? No, it uses the tools from nfs-common. Ah, thanks for clarifying. But at least the post if-up.d hook from /etc/network/if-up.d/mountnfs exits without any action in case of a running systemd: # Skip the mountnfs hook when being triggered by the networking SysV init # script and instead use the systemd built-in mechanisms to mount remote # file systems. # This avoids a deadlock caused by the rpcbind SysV init script depending # on $network and the $network LSB facility being provided by the networking # SysV init script. if [ -d /run/systemd/system ]; then systemctl list-jobs | grep -q network.target exit 0 fi Executing the exact ExecMount command line from above manually after the boot process works as expected. Maybe rpcbind was started too late, see bug #763315[1] on that topic. What is the output of systemctl status rpcbind.service? Mh, my first impression is that the bugreport is unrelated. I don't find any systemd messages regarding ordering cycles in my dmesg. Also, rpcbind is running at least after the boot process: # systemctl status rpcbind.service ● rpcbind.service - LSB: RPC portmapper replacement Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/rpcbind) Drop-In: /run/systemd/generator/rpcbind.service.d └─50-rpcbind-$portmap.conf Active: active (running) since Sat 2015-06-27 10:21:10 UTC; 9min ago CGroup: /system.slice/rpcbind.service └─368 /sbin/rpcbind -w Jun 27 10:21:10 clt rpcbind[350]: Starting rpcbind daemon My impression is, that systemd tries to mount the NFS shares directly after the root fs is mounted. At this time it fails because the network is not setup yet. Afterwards, nothing picks up the missing NFS mounts and as a result the boot process ends without NFS shares being mounted. I don't know much about systemd and its changes to the boot process, but I suspect that (some part of) systemd is meant to mount the NFS shares once the network connection is established. Seems like that doesn't happen. /etc/init.d/mountnfs.sh doesn't do anything on systemd systems as it merely invokes /etc/network/if-up.d/mountnfs - which in turn doesn't do anything on systemd systems (see above). Cheers, jonas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558e7c63.4080...@freesources.org
Re: Flash update
On Saturday 27 June 2015 11:06:07 Brian wrote: On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 09:45:02 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 27 June 2015 08:58:44 Brian wrote: On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 02:54:26 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 26 June 2015 13:34:00 Brian wrote: [Beware! Rampant snipping in progress] On Fri 26 Jun 2015 at 09:38:53 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: How do you live stream BBC iPlayer on a computer without the use of Flash? A well formulated question. :) Think in these terms: 1. Using iplayer with flash involves downloading a file. 2. Wouldn't it be nice if the file could be downloaded, preferably using a program which is in a package in the Debian archives? 3. Such a package has been mentioned in this thread. It is extensively documented at the program's home page and in its manual. 4. The file being downloaded is a .flv. While it is being downloaded it is being stored on disk so it can be accessed and viewed. vlc is one player which can view .flv files. That's not live streaming. So it isn't how to live stream BBC iPlayer on a computer without the use of Flash. It is of course, a way of playing BBC iPlayer. But I am quite happy to use Flash. I'd rather use Open Source, but I also want both to live stream and to keep my nose. Eh? You'd have to explain. The stream is being displayed by vlc while it is being downloaded. It doesn't get more live than that. Then you have gone beyond my present technical knowledge so I'll have a good look at it after I have cracked 4OD. I thought that one had to download first. You appear to be thinking in terms of downloading being the completed, stored product (I downloaded a .deb file) rather than a process. In this context that is exactly what I - clearly erroneously - thought. It ws you who had failed to explain. Hints and then let the child solve the problem for himself are certainly the best way to teach. But only if the child knows what to try and do. The principle was brilliantly explained. How you apply it is up to you. To illustrate it I would do: 1. Open a terminal and issue the command wget http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2014/mini-debconf-ba rcelona/The_Earth_is_not_flat_and_other_heresies_by_Allison_Randal.webm 2. In a second terminal vlc ~/The_Earth_is_not_flat_and_other_heresies_by_Allison_Randal.webm So OK, you win! But the other people I know who use get-iplayer regularly have been having problems recently which I understood were the BBC deliberately moving the goal post to stop them. Are you not or is that not so? I hadn't realised this was a game of winners and losers. But in fact you win because you are now in possession of some knowledge you didn't have before. Agreed. Thank you. I have the same problems others have when things change. Usually I can relocate the goalposts with a bit of effort. Ah! I am very out of date! http://linuxcentre.net/getiplayer But here is where I was at (I had in fact read this earlier): http://linuxcentre.net/get_iplayer-dropped-in-response-to-bbcs-lack-of-su pport-for-open-source it sounds great and worth an effort. So, thank you. But I'll get 4OD going one way or another first. http://linuxcentre.net/ is no longer the development or distribution centre for get_iplayer. I'll shelve trying to improve my Google-foo until I have solved Channel 4. I'd suggest abandoning pipelight and going with the Linux version of flash plus the hal packages would be a route to success. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll try it. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506271157.12423.lisi.re...@gmail.com
What's the difference between sensible-utils and native debian Alternatives?
Hello. Could you please tell me, what is the difference between, for example, /usr/bin/editor (which will be a symling to an editor chosen with update-alternatives --config editor) and /usr/bin/sensible-editor? What about pager and sensible-pager? I do not get the practical difference. Thank you.
Re: What's the difference between sensible-utils and native debian Alternatives?
On Sat, 2015-06-27 at 16:58 +0300, Jayson Willson wrote: Hello. Could you please tell me, what is the difference between, for example, /usr/bin/editor (which will be a symling to an editor chosen with update-alternatives --config editor) and /usr/bin/sensible-editor? What about pager and sensible-pager? I do not get the practical difference. Thank you. That's a good question! :) From simply skimming through the scripts, it seems to mostly be an easy way to set preferred applications through environment variables $PAGER, $EDITOR etc. I guess as a per-user setting instead of system-wide through alternatives? -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: auto-mount NFS shares on boot
On 06/26/2015 07:44 PM, Arno Schuring wrote: From: svenj...@gmx.de Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 19:28:37 +0200 On 2015-06-26 18:38 +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: Process: 352 ExecMount=/bin/mount -n nfs-server:/vmail /var/vmail -t nfs4 -o sec=krb5i,_netdev (code=exited, status=32) Jun 26 16:29:02 clt mount[352]: mount.nfs4: an incorrect mount option was specified mount.nfs4 prints this not very enlightening message if the mount syscall fails with EINVAL. If I've understood the mount scripts correctly, the error is correct: the _netdev mount option is for mount scripts only, and should /not/ be passed to the mount command. Not quite. mount(8) and mount.nfs4(8) do understand and ignore the _netdev option (at least in Jessie's version [1]), so they don't need to be filtered. Also: - _netdev is not required for nfs4/nfs filesystems, systemd has a whitelist of filesystems it implicitly considers network filesystems, and nfs4 is among them [2] Also, if systemd hadn't detected it to be a network filesystem, it would have assumed it to be a local filesystem - and for failing local filesystems systemd drops you in an emergency shell, so the systemd wouldn't even have booted then. _netdev does have its uses [3], but not for a typical NFS mount. - the same error also occurs in the original poster's message when _netdev was not specified, so it doesn't have to do anything with this option I would guess that this is another case where systemd breaks backwards compatibility. Maybe it's mentioned in the release notes? No, systemd is not at fault here. (See above.) With respect to the original problem: Q1. Does it mount manually after boot? What does mount /var/vmail say? If it works, skip to Q5, if not, check the following: Q2. You have a krb5 mount, do you have NEED_GSSD=1 in /etc/default/nfs-common? Also, while that should'nt affect the mount itself, sec=krb5 mounts also need the idmapper to work properly, so do you have NEED_IDMAPD=yes in there? Q3. Is your /etc/krb5.keytab set up properly? What does klist -k /etc/krb5.keytab say? Q4. What do the NFS server's logs say? Is there any indication there about the failed mount? [From here on assuming that the manual mount works:] Q5. What kind of network configuration do you use? It may be the case that you didn't tell it to make systemd wait for it to be online before attempting to mount stuff.[4] Scenarios: - you are using NetworkManager. In that case, you need to enable the service that tells systemd to wait for the networking to come up: systemctl enable NetworkManager-wait-online.service - you are using systemd-networkd. Same logic, different service: systemctl enable systemd-networkd-wait-online.service - you are using /etc/network/interfaces and have allow-hotplug eth0 (or whatever your interface is called) in there Unfortunately, /etc/network/interfaces is Debian-specific and they don't have a hook for allow-hotplug interfaces w.r.t. the network-online.target logic of systemd However, since you need the interface at boot anyway, you don't need allow-hotplug, you can just change it to auto, e.g.: allow-hotplug eth0 - auto eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces Then /etc/init.d/networking (which is used to set up the interfaces in Debian from /etc/network/interfaces) will wait until the interface is up before continuing - On some systems with static IP addresses (and /etc/network/interfaces), I had the problem that even though the interface was conisdered up and ready by the kernel, the switch it was connected to needed 30s or so to realize that fully (and packets were simply dropped beforehand). Since those systems also needed to mount NFS, on Jessie systems I use the following unit file to try to ping the NFS server before systemd should continue with NFS mounts: # /etc/systemd/system/wait-for-nfs-server.service [Unit] Description=Waiting for NFS server DefaultDependencies=no Conflicts=shutdown.target Wants=network-online.target Before=network-online.target shutdown.target After=network.target [Service] Type=oneshot RemainAfterExit=yes ExecStart=/bin/sh -c while ! ping -c 1 HOST_NAME_OF_NFS_SERVER /dev/null; do sleep 1; done # Modify this timeout to your heart's content. TimeoutStartSec=60 [Install] WantedBy=network.target (And after that: systemctl enable wait-for-nfs-server.service) Hope that helps. Christian [1] Here's the source code for that and you can see that it understands the option: http://sources.debian.net/src/nfs-utils/1:1.2.8-9/utils/mount/mount.c/#L112 [2] Source code: http://sources.debian.net/src/systemd/215-17%2Bdeb8u1/src/shared/util.c/#L1543 [3] _netdev is useful in 3 use cases: - you have a network filesystem (e.g. via FUSE) that is not
[testing] touches multimédia du clavier sans effet
Bonjour, Je constate depuis quelques temps que les touches multimédia du clavier sont inopérantes. J'ai tenté de les réaffecter dans les paramètres du clavier. Il prend bien en compte la touche et la détecte correctement mais c'est sans effet. Mon clavier est un Logitech Illuminated Keyboard. Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150627133146.7100ddb2fdc1cb1a9f17c...@neuf.fr
Re: [testing] touches multimédia du clavier sans effet
Le Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:07:17 +0200 Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr a écrit: Le Sat, 27 Jun 2015 13:31:46 +0200 Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr a écrit: Bonjour, Je constate depuis quelques temps que les touches multimédia du clavier sont inopérantes. J'ai tenté de les réaffecter dans les paramètres du clavier. Il prend bien en compte la touche et la détecte correctement mais c'est sans effet. Mon clavier est un Logitech Illuminated Keyboard. Gaëtan C'est lié à une mise à jour qui a eu lieu entre le 19/6 et le 27/6, car je viens de mettre à jour une autre machine dont la dernière mise à jour datée du 19/6 et dont les raccourcis fonctionnaient et après la mise à jour ça ne fonctionne plus. ça semble venir de gnome-settings-daemon, y a 2 rapports sur le sujet: #789891 et #789866 Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150627142049.df1d0e4cba133ba389876...@neuf.fr
Re: auto-mount NFS shares on boot
(Ccing the bugtracker because it appears you've stumbled upon a bug that also a few other people had, see below. Please don't reply to the bugtracker yourself unless you feel it's relevant for the bug report.) Link to thread on debian-user for people reading the bug report: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/06/msg01508.html On 06/27/2015 03:39 PM, Jonas Meurer wrote: Sure. My /etc/network/interfaces is pretty simple: # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface #allow-hotplug eth0 auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 172.18.10.34 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 172.18.10.0 broadcast 172.18.10.255 gateway 172.18.10.1 # dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed dns-nameservers XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX That looks fine, there shouldn't be any problems with that. Could you run the following? systemd-analyze plot bootup.svg This will produce an SVG file that tells you when and in which order systemd started different units at boot. Could you attach that file? It may be able to tell us what happened. Didn't know about that feature until know. Happy to learn new things about systemd every day :) So ... here we go. The SVG is attached. If I understand the output, then my NFS share etc-exim4-virtual.mount is started just before rpcbind.service and network-online.target, right? Ok, so the following is going on: - local-fs.target is reached, this leads to networking.service being started - networking.service sets up network configuration (takes 172ms) - after networking.service is done, network.target is reached - after network.target is reached, network-online.target is reached (since you don't have any services that wait for the network connection like NetworkManager-wait-online.service, but you also don't need it here, since networking.service with a static configuration and 'auto eth0' will make sure the network is up properly before even network.target is reached, so that's not a problem) - but then immediately after that systemd tries to mount the NFS filesystem - in parallel, first rpcbind and then nfs-common is started This is a bug, that shouldn't happen. Rationale: The problem here is that you are using sec=krb5i type mounts, where rpc.gssd needs to have been started (by nfs-common) BEFORE mounting can take place. Unfortunately, there's no ordering relating nfs-common to remote filesystems, so systemd will start them in parallel and the mount will fail. I myself have never seen this because I've only used sec=sys NFSv4 mounts with Jessie, and those don't require any service to be started when trying to mount them - and while the idmapper may be required to have proper permissions, that can be started later (or not at all if you use the new nfsidmap + request-key logic instead of idmapd). But with sec=krb5i mounts, this is bad, because you need rpc.gssd to mount the filesystems. Mounting it later it will work because rpc.gssd has been started by that point. What's missing here is an ordering dependency between remote-fs-pre.target and nfs-common.service. Searching through the bugtracker, this appears to be the same bug as #775542 [1], that's why I've copied this message to that bug report. Could you try to do the following: 1. create a directory /etc/systemd/system/remote-fs-pre.target.d 2. create a file /etc/systemd/system/remote-fs-pre.target.d/nfs.conf with the following contents: [Unit] After=nfs-common.service And then reboot your system? I would bet it should work then. So maybe you were correct earlier in this thread, that rpcbind is started to late? Is there an easy solution to fix it? Maybe by adding rpcbind to the LSB header 'Required-Start' of nfs-common init script? I just tried that, unfortunately it didn't help at all. You were on the right track here, but it's not rpcbind itself that's the issue. (See above.) For the bugtracker: there has to be a new ordering dependency between remote-fs-pre.target and nfs-common.service. Ideally, since this is NFS-specific, this should probably go in the nfs-common package, but since at least in Jessie nfs-common is an init script and not a systemd service file, it might be better to explicitly add the After= dependency in the systemd package - whereas for Stretch there probably will be a native systemd unit file, so that's where the Before=remote-fs-pre.target dependency could be added. (IMHO.) Christian [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=775542 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Gestion changements de password root multi-serveurs
Hello, Avoir une carte KVM sur son serveur distant n'est pas un HS. C'est la seule solution pour être sûr de pouvoir le contacter et avoir toujours la main sur lui. Ton argumentation serait valable si il est possible facilement de se mettre physiquement face au serveur. Qui reprochait à quelqu'un d'être trop péremptoire ? :) Avoir un KVM n'est *pas* la *seule* solution! Je n'ai jamais eu de KVM, mais je me suis plusieurs fois enfermé dehors, en faisant de la merde avec iptables, par exemple. Une fois, j'ai aussi perdu mon mot de passe root. Sur un serveur. Et pour réparer, j'ai redémarré ma machine sur un système de secours (fourni par mon hébergeur, qui utilise trinity rescue kit, démarré par le réseau, monté en ram), j'ai monté mes disques, chrooté dans le serveur, et réparé mes erreurs. C'est sur qu'avec un KVM ç'aurait été plus simple, mais ça n'est clairement pas la seule solution, surtout qu'elle est plus coûteuse (beaucoup d'hébergeurs te font payer ce service, et ça demande une IP supplémentaire). Bien à vous! -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558ea936.8010...@gmail.com
Re: [testing] touches multimédia du clavier sans effet
Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:20:49 +0200 Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr écrivait : ça semble venir de gnome-settings-daemon, y a 2 rapports sur le sujet: #789891 et #789866 Comme je le soupçonnais, c'est lié à l'upgrade progressif de Gnome 3.14 vers 3.16. gnome-settings-daemon est passé de le version 3.14.2-3 à la version 3.16.2-3. Et les interactions avec gnome-shell 3.14 comporte des lacunes. Voir le rapport de bug suivant marqué comme résolu : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=789474 La solution : mettre à jour gnome-shell et passer à la version 3.16 qui n'est encore qu'en unstable. Un peu de patience, donc. Gaëtan Jean-Marc jean-m...@6jf.be pgp7PGbh6jmaK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [testing] touches multimédia du clavier sans effet
Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:27:14 +0200 Jean-Marc jean-m...@6jf.be écrivait : Un peu de patience, donc. Et pour ceux qui ne savent pas attendre, le passage vers gnome-shell 3.16 pourrait, selon moi, se faire relativement en douceur. Un petite simulation faite sur mon ordi montre un impact très faible : $ apt-get --simulate install gnome-shell-common -t unstable NOTE: Ceci n'est qu'une simulation ! apt-get a besoin des privilèges du superutilisateur pour pouvoir vraiment fonctionner. Veuillez aussi noter que le verrouillage est désactivé, et la situation n'est donc pas forcément représentative de la réalité ! Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait Construction de l'arbre des dépendances Lecture des informations d'état... Fait Le paquet suivant a été installé automatiquement et n'est plus nécessaire : gir1.2-gtop-2.0 Veuillez utiliser « apt-get autoremove » pour le supprimer. Les paquets supplémentaires suivants seront installés : gir1.2-gweather-3.0 gir1.2-mutter-3.0 gnome-shell gnome-shell-extensions libmutter0f mutter mutter-common Les paquets suivants seront ENLEVÉS : libmutter0e Les NOUVEAUX paquets suivants seront installés : gir1.2-gweather-3.0 libmutter0f Les paquets suivants seront mis à jour : gir1.2-mutter-3.0 gnome-shell gnome-shell-common gnome-shell-extensions mutter mutter-common 6 mis à jour, 2 nouvellement installés, 1 à enlever et 238 non mis à jour. Avis aux téméraires. Et merci des retours. Jean-Marc jean-m...@6jf.be pgpFgtyUNg8li.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [testing] touches multimédia du clavier sans effet
Le Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:39:27 +0200 Jean-Marc jean-m...@6jf.be a écrit: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:27:14 +0200 Jean-Marc jean-m...@6jf.be écrivait : Un peu de patience, donc. Et pour ceux qui ne savent pas attendre, le passage vers gnome-shell 3.16 pourrait, selon moi, se faire relativement en douceur. Un petite simulation faite sur mon ordi montre un impact très faible : $ apt-get --simulate install gnome-shell-common -t unstable NOTE: Ceci n'est qu'une simulation ! apt-get a besoin des privilèges du superutilisateur pour pouvoir vraiment fonctionner. Veuillez aussi noter que le verrouillage est désactivé, et la situation n'est donc pas forcément représentative de la réalité ! Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait Construction de l'arbre des dépendances Lecture des informations d'état... Fait Le paquet suivant a été installé automatiquement et n'est plus nécessaire : gir1.2-gtop-2.0 Veuillez utiliser « apt-get autoremove » pour le supprimer. Les paquets supplémentaires suivants seront installés : gir1.2-gweather-3.0 gir1.2-mutter-3.0 gnome-shell gnome-shell-extensions libmutter0f mutter mutter-common Les paquets suivants seront ENLEVÉS : libmutter0e Les NOUVEAUX paquets suivants seront installés : gir1.2-gweather-3.0 libmutter0f Les paquets suivants seront mis à jour : gir1.2-mutter-3.0 gnome-shell gnome-shell-common gnome-shell-extensions mutter mutter-common 6 mis à jour, 2 nouvellement installés, 1 à enlever et 238 non mis à jour. Avis aux téméraires. Et merci des retours. Effectivement, je viens de tester. Pour l'instant c'est plutôt mieux ! Les raccourcis refonctionnent. Merci. Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150627164730.2812fa5ff11d5cd4cc313...@neuf.fr
Re: [testing] touches multimédia du clavier sans effet
Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:41:02 +0200 Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr écrivait : J'ai tenté de mettre à jour gnome-shell mais ce n'est pas si simple que ça ... C'est à dire ? Je viens d'envoyer un mail (qui a croisé le tien) sur l'impact d'un update de gnome-shell vers la version 3.16. Qu'as-tu de «pas si simple» ? Ouais c'est une solution. Gaëtan Jean-Marc jean-m...@6jf.be pgpLkPDTmyH14.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [testing] touches multimédia du clavier sans effet
Le Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:47:30 +0200 Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr a écrit: Le Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:39:27 +0200 Jean-Marc jean-m...@6jf.be a écrit: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:27:14 +0200 Jean-Marc jean-m...@6jf.be écrivait : Un peu de patience, donc. Et pour ceux qui ne savent pas attendre, le passage vers gnome-shell 3.16 pourrait, selon moi, se faire relativement en douceur. Un petite simulation faite sur mon ordi montre un impact très faible : $ apt-get --simulate install gnome-shell-common -t unstable NOTE: Ceci n'est qu'une simulation ! apt-get a besoin des privilèges du superutilisateur pour pouvoir vraiment fonctionner. Veuillez aussi noter que le verrouillage est désactivé, et la situation n'est donc pas forcément représentative de la réalité ! Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait Construction de l'arbre des dépendances Lecture des informations d'état... Fait Le paquet suivant a été installé automatiquement et n'est plus nécessaire : gir1.2-gtop-2.0 Veuillez utiliser « apt-get autoremove » pour le supprimer. Les paquets supplémentaires suivants seront installés : gir1.2-gweather-3.0 gir1.2-mutter-3.0 gnome-shell gnome-shell-extensions libmutter0f mutter mutter-common Les paquets suivants seront ENLEVÉS : libmutter0e Les NOUVEAUX paquets suivants seront installés : gir1.2-gweather-3.0 libmutter0f Les paquets suivants seront mis à jour : gir1.2-mutter-3.0 gnome-shell gnome-shell-common gnome-shell-extensions mutter mutter-common 6 mis à jour, 2 nouvellement installés, 1 à enlever et 238 non mis à jour. Avis aux téméraires. Et merci des retours. Effectivement, je viens de tester. Pour l'instant c'est plutôt mieux ! Les raccourcis refonctionnent. Ouais bon par contre on perd encore des trucs, comme à chaque évolution de Gnome. Sont vraiment pète couilles chez Gnome. Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150627165245.ed86051748a9d53b2a305...@neuf.fr
Re: Boots into emergency mode. How to analyze?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 08:42:17PM -0700, Seeker wrote: On 6/26/2015 6:12 AM, Matthijs Wensveen wrote: On 06/26/2015 01:55 PM, Nick T. wrote: On 06/26/2015 12:55 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] I'm now back to having a root password, which allows me to use emergency mode [...] From the standpoint of remote access, don't think there is a significant difference. From the standpoint of physical access to the machine, I would go on the assumption that if someone has the time to boot from optical or flash disk and mess with the system [...] If they have time to do that, maybe they have time to take the hard drive out and attach it to another machine, [...] Yeah, been there too (including the screwdriver approach. But now tell me: which is quicker/more convenient/less risky? Personally, if I had to start from scratch for some reason, I would skip the root password during install and just use sudo. But since my Debian installation predates that option, I stick with using root. I am pretty comfortable with the way sudo works in Ubuntu and did not bother creating a root password there. It's not an either-or. For day to day use, I *always* use sudo (even when I want a root shell: sudo -s, with my user password). It's only when the system can't boot past single-user when I'm glad I have a root password (and when I'm administering other people's machines: when I haven't a login there, I have no business in knowing their user passwords, but that's another kettle of fish). Regards - -- tomás -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlWOn6wACgkQBcgs9XrR2kYamQCfQiZ8tpsdHxGz7Yift0H+SojH CyEAnj8IRm/6vNRssyQoDuWfwphw+os8 =rb+c -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150627130548.ga23...@tuxteam.de
Re: Ikoula c'est bien ? (et les autres ?)
Yope, kaliderus: C'était pour du perso ET du pro mon besoin. [...] Le mouvement associatif je suis pour, mais pour le coup c'est une solution pro dans laquelle je vais investir. Tu sais quoi, y'a plein de sites pros qui sont chez Tetaneutral, et j'imagine de même chez ARN :) Tu y gagnerais en neutralité, en éthique, et tu n'y perdrais pratiquement rien en qualité, voire même tu y gagnerais, pour le même prix tu auras mieux :) Bon courage pour le choix! Gaël -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558e9ed7.70...@gmail.com
Re: [testing] touches multimédia du clavier sans effet
Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:20:49 +0200 Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr écrivait : ça semble venir de gnome-settings-daemon, y a 2 rapports sur le sujet: #789891 et #789866 Trois : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=789725 Gaëtan Jean-Marc jean-m...@6jf.be pgpvQORdm7Gsq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 8.1 installation problems
On Sat, 2015-06-27 at 09:40 -0400, Bob McKittrick wrote: Hi, I have an ASUS H61M MB w/ 803 BIOS. Ubuntu works fine, Debian 7.8 worked fine but when I installed 8.1 the BIOS disables the drive (on boot) w/ 4.xxx or 5.xxx depending on the number of partitions. I switched which drives debian and ubuntu were on and the disabling moved to the drive debian was on. The safe boot is set to other OS. good-bye debian Are you asking for help or venting? If you need help, is that an exact error message from the BIOS? Because I get no other matches on that on Google. There seems to be quite a few BIOS updates for that board, so probably worth a try. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [testing] touches multimédia du clavier sans effet
Le Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:27:14 +0200 Jean-Marc jean-m...@6jf.be a écrit: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:20:49 +0200 Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr écrivait : ça semble venir de gnome-settings-daemon, y a 2 rapports sur le sujet: #789891 et #789866 Comme je le soupçonnais, c'est lié à l'upgrade progressif de Gnome 3.14 vers 3.16. gnome-settings-daemon est passé de le version 3.14.2-3 à la version 3.16.2-3. Et les interactions avec gnome-shell 3.14 comporte des lacunes. Voir le rapport de bug suivant marqué comme résolu : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=789474 La solution : mettre à jour gnome-shell et passer à la version 3.16 qui n'est encore qu'en unstable. J'ai tenté de mettre à jour gnome-shell mais ce n'est pas si simple que ça ... Un peu de patience, donc. Ouais c'est une solution. Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150627164102.edeae02c895845c3ce7fc...@neuf.fr
Re: auto-mount NFS shares on boot
Hi Brian, Am 27.06.2015 um 07:29 schrieb bri...@aracnet.com: On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 19:28:37 +0200 Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote: Maybe rpcbind was started too late, see bug #763315[1] on that topic. What is the output of systemctl status rpcbind.service? i have a similar warning/error. interestingly my nfs mount seems to work for some reason even though it claims that there was a problem. You mean that your systemd reports a ordering cycle in dmesg? And your NFS shares are automatically mounted during boot process nevertheless? Would you mind to share the NFS share entries from your /etc/fstab? Cheers, jonas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558e7e85.1050...@freesources.org
Re: CUPS error message, device already exists
On Fri 26 Jun 2015 at 22:22:25 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: meanwhile i'm getting this too: Failed to update TXT record for DCP8110DN @ server: -2 I think i figured that one out. it can't get a hostname for the printer perhaps ? Sort of. Avahi is trying to get a TXT record for a printer from cups. But cups is ignoring avahi. Support for printer discovery with DNSSD has much improved since Wheezy but at the time we had #706888: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=706888 i put one into the server /etc/hosts file. I'll see if that fixes it. It won't. If you are printing I'd not bother about it. Or remove avahi-daemon (a Recommends: of cups). Or use only CUPS for remote and local browsing in cupsd.conf. The advice would be different if you were on Jessie. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/27062015115509.cbbc2b63b...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: [testing] touches multimédia du clavier sans effet
Le Sat, 27 Jun 2015 13:31:46 +0200 Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr a écrit: Bonjour, Je constate depuis quelques temps que les touches multimédia du clavier sont inopérantes. J'ai tenté de les réaffecter dans les paramètres du clavier. Il prend bien en compte la touche et la détecte correctement mais c'est sans effet. Mon clavier est un Logitech Illuminated Keyboard. Gaëtan C'est lié à une mise à jour qui a eu lieu entre le 19/6 et le 27/6, car je viens de mettre à jour une autre machine dont la dernière mise à jour datée du 19/6 et dont les raccourcis fonctionnaient et après la mise à jour ça ne fonctionne plus. Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150627140717.109997df0f315404eb0e7...@neuf.fr
Re: auto-mount NFS shares on boot
Hi Christian, thanks for the comprehensive reply. It helps a lot to better understand the details of systemd NFS mount handling. Am 27.06.2015 um 12:55 schrieb Christian Seiler: On 06/26/2015 07:44 PM, Arno Schuring wrote: On 2015-06-26 18:38 +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: mount.nfs4 prints this not very enlightening message if the mount syscall fails with EINVAL. If I've understood the mount scripts correctly, the error is correct: the _netdev mount option is for mount scripts only, and should /not/ be passed to the mount command. Not quite. mount(8) and mount.nfs4(8) do understand and ignore the _netdev option (at least in Jessie's version [1]), so they don't need to be filtered. That's what I already assumed. Thanks for providing the links to confirm this. Also: - _netdev is not required for nfs4/nfs filesystems, systemd has a whitelist of filesystems it implicitly considers network filesystems, and nfs4 is among them [2] Also, if systemd hadn't detected it to be a network filesystem, it would have assumed it to be a local filesystem - and for failing local filesystems systemd drops you in an emergency shell, so the systemd wouldn't even have booted then. _netdev does have its uses [3], but not for a typical NFS mount. - the same error also occurs in the original poster's message when _netdev was not specified, so it doesn't have to do anything with this option Ok, so the bottom line is that I don't need the '_netdev' option for NFS mounts at all. I removed it from my fstab. I would guess that this is another case where systemd breaks backwards compatibility. Maybe it's mentioned in the release notes? No, systemd is not at fault here. (See above.) With respect to the original problem: Q1. Does it mount manually after boot? What does mount /var/vmail say? As already mentioned, mounting the filesystems manually after the boot process finished works as expected. I can mount the share by starting 'systemctl start var-vmail.mount'. Afterwards the NFS share is mounted and 'systemctl status var-vmail.mount' says: # systemctl status var-vmail.mount ● var-vmail.mount - /var/vmail Loaded: loaded (/etc/fstab) Active: active (mounted) since Sat 2015-06-27 12:55:55 UTC; 1s ago Where: /var/vmail What: nfs-server:/vmail Docs: man:fstab(5) man:systemd-fstab-generator(8) Process: 982 ExecMount=/bin/mount -n nfs-server:/vmail /var/vmail -t nfs4 -o sec=krb5i (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) So I'm pretty sure that NFS is setup correctly both on server and client. My problem is about mounting the NFS share automatically during the boot process. [From here on assuming that the manual mount works:] Q5. What kind of network configuration do you use? It may be the case that you didn't tell it to make systemd wait for it to be online before attempting to mount stuff.[4] Scenarios: The NFS client in question is a Xen DomU/VM server system. It doesn't have NetworkManager installed and I didn't configure anything systemd-networkd specific. My ethernet devices are configured in /etc/network/interfaces. - you are using /etc/network/interfaces and have allow-hotplug eth0 (or whatever your interface is called) in there Unfortunately, /etc/network/interfaces is Debian-specific and they don't have a hook for allow-hotplug interfaces w.r.t. the network-online.target logic of systemd Very interesting. Indeed, debian-installer by default adds network devices as 'allow-hotplug' to /etc/network/interfaces. However, since you need the interface at boot anyway, you don't need allow-hotplug, you can just change it to auto, e.g.: allow-hotplug eth0 - auto eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces Then /etc/init.d/networking (which is used to set up the interfaces in Debian from /etc/network/interfaces) will wait until the interface is up before continuing I changed 'allow-hotplug eth0' to 'auto eth0' in /etc/network/interfaces now. Unfortunately it didn't have any effect. Still the same error message during boot process, still no mounted NFS shares after boot. - On some systems with static IP addresses (and /etc/network/interfaces), I had the problem that even though the interface was conisdered up and ready by the kernel, the switch it was connected to needed 30s or so to realize that fully (and packets were simply dropped beforehand). Since those systems also needed to mount NFS, on Jessie systems I use the following unit file to try to ping the NFS server before systemd should continue with NFS mounts: I don't believe that this is a problem here. The NFS client is inside a private network that is routed on the Xen server, so no need to wait for a switch to detect an 'up' link. I'm still pretty confident that systemd for some reason tries to mount the NFS shares before the network connection is
Re: CUPS error message, device already exists
On 27/06/15 06:16, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: My complaint is that CUPS is complaining. if it doesn't matter - then why is it complaining ? Some programs complain about things that *might* matter where if they do matter then the humans they matter to will be very upset to not be notified. Some programs complain about random irrelevancies because default notification levels on libraries are too sensitive. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558ea1af.3040...@zen.co.uk
Re: auto-mount NFS shares on boot
On 06/27/2015 03:12 PM, Jonas Meurer wrote: So I'm pretty sure that NFS is setup correctly both on server and client. My problem is about mounting the NFS share automatically during the boot process. Looks like it, yes. However, since you need the interface at boot anyway, you don't need allow-hotplug, you can just change it to auto, e.g.: allow-hotplug eth0 - auto eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces Then /etc/init.d/networking (which is used to set up the interfaces in Debian from /etc/network/interfaces) will wait until the interface is up before continuing I changed 'allow-hotplug eth0' to 'auto eth0' in /etc/network/interfaces now. Unfortunately it didn't have any effect. Still the same error message during boot process, still no mounted NFS shares after boot. What kind of network configuration are we looking at? Could you post the contents of /etc/network/interfaces (you can replace the IP addresses with XXX or so if you don't want to disclose internal information, but beyond specific IPs the contents might be relevant). I'm still pretty confident that systemd for some reason tries to mount the NFS shares before the network connection is established. The boot log to console shows the failed mount attempts of NFS shares immediately after the rootfs has been mounted, and at least before nfs-common has been started: Could you run the following? systemd-analyze plot bootup.svg This will produce an SVG file that tells you when and in which order systemd started different units at boot. Could you attach that file? It may be able to tell us what happened. Christian signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
8.1 installation problems
Hi, I have an ASUS H61M MB w/ 803 BIOS. Ubuntu works fine, Debian 7.8 worked fine but when I installed 8.1 the BIOS disables the drive (on boot) w/ 4.xxx or 5.xxx depending on the number of partitions. I switched which drives debian and ubuntu were on and the disabling moved to the drive debian was on. The safe boot is set to other OS. good-bye debian
Re: auto-mount NFS shares on boot
Hi Christian, Am 27.06.2015 um 16:07 schrieb Christian Seiler: (Ccing the bugtracker because it appears you've stumbled upon a bug that also a few other people had, see below. Please don't reply to the bugtracker yourself unless you feel it's relevant for the bug report.) Link to thread on debian-user for people reading the bug report: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/06/msg01508.html Thanks for linking this thread to bugreport #775542. I wasn't aware of that bugreport yet. On 06/27/2015 03:39 PM, Jonas Meurer wrote: Could you run the following? systemd-analyze plot bootup.svg Ok, so the following is going on: - local-fs.target is reached, this leads to networking.service being started - networking.service sets up network configuration (takes 172ms) - after networking.service is done, network.target is reached - after network.target is reached, network-online.target is reached (since you don't have any services that wait for the network connection like NetworkManager-wait-online.service, but you also don't need it here, since networking.service with a static configuration and 'auto eth0' will make sure the network is up properly before even network.target is reached, so that's not a problem) - but then immediately after that systemd tries to mount the NFS filesystem - in parallel, first rpcbind and then nfs-common is started Thanks a lot for disassembling and explaining the boot procedure. I see that the problem here is that systemd doesn't wait for rpcbind.service and nfs-common.service to finish before it mounts the NFS shares. This is a bug, that shouldn't happen. Rationale: The problem here is that you are using sec=krb5i type mounts, where rpc.gssd needs to have been started (by nfs-common) BEFORE mounting can take place. Unfortunately, there's no ordering relating nfs-common to remote filesystems, so systemd will start them in parallel and the mount will fail. I myself have never seen this because I've only used sec=sys NFSv4 mounts with Jessie, and those don't require any service to be started when trying to mount them - and while the idmapper may be required to have proper permissions, that can be started later (or not at all if you use the new nfsidmap + request-key logic instead of idmapd). But with sec=krb5i mounts, this is bad, because you need rpc.gssd to mount the filesystems. What's missing here is an ordering dependency between remote-fs-pre.target and nfs-common.service. Searching through the bugtracker, this appears to be the same bug as #775542 [1], that's why I've copied this message to that bug report. Could you try to do the following: 1. create a directory /etc/systemd/system/remote-fs-pre.target.d 2. create a file /etc/systemd/system/remote-fs-pre.target.d/nfs.conf with the following contents: [Unit] After=nfs-common.service And then reboot your system? I would bet it should work then. Perfect, that solution works like a charm. nfs-common is started before remote-fs, thus rpc.gssd runs already when the NFS share is mounted. I suggest to add this simple fix to Jessie by uploading it to stable-proposed-updates. What do you think? Also, do you think that /etc/systemd/system/remote-fs-pre.target.d/nfs.conf belongs to systemd package or to nfs-common? I would say it belongs to nfs-common as that one provides the required tools and services to mount NFS shares on a client. What do the maintainers think? I'm happy to prepare a patch for either package and eventually make an upload to stable-proposed-updates if the maintainers don't have time to do so themselves. Just tell me if I should go ahead. Cheers, jonas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558ee51e.4040...@freesources.org
Re: aptitude full-upgrade bug?
On 27/06/15 01:12 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 27 June 2015 17:38:36 Gary Dale wrote: I've upgraded two machines from wheezy to jessie over the last month or so and noticed the same behaviour on both. In both cases they failed to upgrade the kernel. In both cases this left the machines unable to complete a boot and I had to use the systemV init option to get to a command line. I suspect this could be because the meta-package linux-image-amd64 wasn't installed, but even that doesn't make a lot of sense. Shouldn't a full-upgrade bring all the packages up to the current version? Has anyone else encountered this problem? Did you upgrade to systemd or sysvinit? It sounds like the second. Lisi No. The full-upgrade option (equivalent to dist-upgrade in apt-get) does a full upgrade. It's the systemd boot that fails. There are, as Arno explained, probably something that doesn't work with systemd and a 3.2 kernel. Anyway, I've installed the meta-package on both computers so this shouldn't happen anymore. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558ee5dd.4080...@torfree.net
Re: auto-mount NFS shares on boot
On 06/27/2015 08:02 PM, Jonas Meurer wrote: Am 27.06.2015 um 16:07 schrieb Christian Seiler: Could you try to do the following: 1. create a directory /etc/systemd/system/remote-fs-pre.target.d 2. create a file /etc/systemd/system/remote-fs-pre.target.d/nfs.conf with the following contents: [Unit] After=nfs-common.service And then reboot your system? I would bet it should work then. Perfect, that solution works like a charm. nfs-common is started before remote-fs, thus rpc.gssd runs already when the NFS share is mounted. Great, glad I could solve your problem. :) I suggest to add this simple fix to Jessie by uploading it to stable-proposed-updates. What do you think? Also, do you think that /etc/systemd/system/remote-fs-pre.target.d/nfs.conf belongs to systemd package or to nfs-common? I would say it belongs to nfs-common as that one provides the required tools and services to mount NFS shares on a client. So the fix I gave you is a fix that shouldn't be copied verbatim into a Debian package. /etc/systemd is administrator territory, /lib/systemd is package territory, so any proper fix of a package should go to /lib. Furthermore, my suggestion for your problem was to add a drop-in that augments the Debian-provided unit files (see man systemd.unit for how drop-ins work) - which is great since you only want to extend the unit, not completely replace it. But in the packages themselves it is perfectly possible to modify the unit files themselves, so a drop-in is not necessary at all for any native unit. So for Stretch: - assuming that nfs-common will have a native unit by then, the proper fix would be to simply add Before=remote-fs-pre.target to that unit, and that would fix that For Jessie: - nfs-common is still an init script, so one cannot simply add Before=remote-fs-pre.target to that. But there are two other options: - just for Jessie: update systemd to change the original unit file remote-fs-pre.target to include After=nfs-common.service - or alternatively, package a drop-in in /lib in the nfs-common package, i.e. /lib/systemd/system/nfs-common.service.d/systemd-ordering.conf: [Unit] Before=remote-fs-pre.target (IMHO at least, I'll defer to the maintainers of the respective packages as to what they think is appropriate.) Christian signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: debian jessie xen
Oi, Instale libvirt/kvm e seja feliz com o virt-manager. Ele faz a vida ficar muito mais simples com uma interface gráfica chamada virt-manager. Eu tenho máquinas com kvm/xen e kvm/qemu. Infelizmente ou funciona com um ou com o outro. No começo eu achava xen mais rápido, mas atualmente acho que ambos tem o mesmo desempenho. OpenStack é só uma abstração. Ele funciona tanto com kvm/xen quanto kvm/qemu, mas usa kvm e libvirt. Abs, Helio Loureiro http://helio.loureiro.eng.br http://br.linkedin.com/in/helioloureiro http://twitter.com/helioloureiro http://gplus.to/helioloureiro Em 25 de junho de 2015 23:48, P. J. pjotam...@gmail.com escreveu: Não se não for pré-requisto usar o xen, tem outro projeto muito bom, kvm[1] [1] http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Main_Page Em 25/06/15, Caio Ferreiraabreuf...@gmail.com escreveu: prezado gustavo além de virtualização, eu pretendo começar a mexer com o software openstack, cloud computing. obrigado pela ajuda. .''`. Caio Abreu Ferreira : :' : abreuf...@gmail.com `. `'` Debian User `- 2015-06-25 15:08 GMT-03:00 Gustavo S. L. ght...@gmail.com: 2015-06-25 14:48 GMT-03:00 Caio Ferreira abreuf...@gmail.com: No final das contas, como é um servidor novo, eu reinstalei o debian 8.10 na versão amd64. Sendo a máquina 64bits penso que foi melhor assim, inclusive por conta da virtualização, que exigirá processamento. Uma última dica é que se esta máquina for apenas para virtualização e você quiser um pool de servidores extendendo a relação para outras máquinas você pode usar o XCP (Xen Cloud Plataform). Acho que vale a pena dar uma conferida caso não conheça. -- Guto -- | .''`. A fé não dá respostas. Só impede perguntas. | : :' : | `. `'` | `- Je vois tout -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cacnf0pggekjrjh0ir25rhkxyooh_jfp26zr+u0coqf938ri...@mail.gmail.com
Re: debian jessie xen
Também uso o virt-manager e aqui funciona muito bem tanto com o xen como quemu/kvm. Apenas com o hypervisor LXC, não consegui fazer funcionar, o que é uma pena pois queria usá-lo como uma espécie de sandbox, virtualizando apenas programas e não um sistema operacional inteiro. On 27-06-2015 12:39, Helio Loureiro wrote: Oi, Instale libvirt/kvm e seja feliz com o virt-manager. Ele faz a vida ficar muito mais simples com uma interface gráfica chamada virt-manager. Eu tenho máquinas com kvm/xen e kvm/qemu. Infelizmente ou funciona com um ou com o outro. No começo eu achava xen mais rápido, mas atualmente acho que ambos tem o mesmo desempenho. OpenStack é só uma abstração. Ele funciona tanto com kvm/xen quanto kvm/qemu, mas usa kvm e libvirt. Abs, Helio Loureiro http://helio.loureiro.eng.br http://br.linkedin.com/in/helioloureiro http://twitter.com/helioloureiro http://gplus.to/helioloureiro Em 25 de junho de 2015 23:48, P. J. pjotam...@gmail.com mailto:pjotam...@gmail.com escreveu: Não se não for pré-requisto usar o xen, tem outro projeto muito bom, kvm[1] [1] http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Main_Page Em 25/06/15, Caio Ferreiraabreuf...@gmail.com mailto:abreuf...@gmail.com escreveu: prezado gustavo além de virtualização, eu pretendo começar a mexer com o software openstack, cloud computing. obrigado pela ajuda. .''`. Caio Abreu Ferreira : :' : abreuf...@gmail.com mailto:abreuf...@gmail.com `. `'` Debian User `- 2015-06-25 15:08 GMT-03:00 Gustavo S. L. ght...@gmail.com mailto:ght...@gmail.com: 2015-06-25 14:48 GMT-03:00 Caio Ferreira abreuf...@gmail.com mailto:abreuf...@gmail.com: No final das contas, como é um servidor novo, eu reinstalei o debian 8.10 na versão amd64. Sendo a máquina 64bits penso que foi melhor assim, inclusive por conta da virtualização, que exigirá processamento. Uma última dica é que se esta máquina for apenas para virtualização e você quiser um pool de servidores extendendo a relação para outras máquinas você pode usar o XCP (Xen Cloud Plataform). Acho que vale a pena dar uma conferida caso não conheça. -- Guto -- | .''`. A fé não dá respostas. Só impede perguntas. | : :' : | `. `'` | `- Je vois tout -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org mailto:debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org mailto:listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cacnf0pggekjrjh0ir25rhkxyooh_jfp26zr+u0coqf938ri...@mail.gmail.com -- .''`. : :' : `. `'` `-
aptitude full-upgrade bug?
I've upgraded two machines from wheezy to jessie over the last month or so and noticed the same behaviour on both. In both cases they failed to upgrade the kernel. In both cases this left the machines unable to complete a boot and I had to use the systemV init option to get to a command line. I suspect this could be because the meta-package linux-image-amd64 wasn't installed, but even that doesn't make a lot of sense. Shouldn't a full-upgrade bring all the packages up to the current version? Has anyone else encountered this problem? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558ed18c.3060...@torfree.net
Re: Aucun adaptateur Bluetooth trouvé
Le Sat, 27 Jun 2015 00:28:53 +0100,
Iker SOUNTON hodo...@sounton.me a écrit :
Merci pour votre retour.
Trouvez ci-joint les informations que vous souhaitez.
Cordialement,
On 26/06/2015 15:41, Bernard Schoenacker wrote:
Le Fri, 26 Jun 2015 15:26:31 +0100,
Iker SOUNTON hodo...@sounton.me a écrit :
sounton.me
bonjour,
serait il possible de daigner donner plus d'information ne serait ce
qu'un :
lspci
lshw
uname -ar
lister les paquets installés contenant les firmwares :
apt-cache policy $(dpkg -l |awk '/firmware/ {print $2}' )
un peut de musique :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMgoe5Xsg8k
http://www.la-fontaine-ch-thierry.net/greboe.htm
slt
bernard
bonjour,
je n'ai pas trouvé de périphérique bluetooth
serait il possible dez vérifier via :
lsusb
en solution de secours il est possible d'acheter :
http://www.amazon.fr/Plugable-Technologies-USB-BT4LE/dp/B009ZIILLI
slt
bernard
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Re: problemas actualizacion testing
El día 27 de junio de 2015, 13:15, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sat, 27 Jun 2015 12:40:40 -0300, Ricardo Delgado escribió: buenas lista, hoy actualice mi testing en debian (ya no se cual nombre tiene, antes era jessie :)) Stretch se llama ahora. y me quedaron paquetes sin instalar, basicamente se detuvo aqui No se satisfacen las dependencias de los siguientes paquetes: librtmp1 : Depende: libhogweed2 pero no es instalable. Depende: libnettle4 pero no es instalable. me lance a instalar a mano ambas dependencias y no existen! o sea libhogweed2 libnettle4 no estan en mis repositorios, que son los siguientes (...) A ver... el paquete librtmp1 de los repos oficiales depende de libhogweed4 y éste último de libnettle6 que sí están en los repos. Si estás actualizando el paquete desde otro repo (¿D-M?) tendrás que habilitar la ruta a los paquete fuente correctas: deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org testing main non-free Tras cambiar el /etc/apt/sources.list ejecuta: apt-get update apt-get -V dist-upgrade Saludos, -- Camaleón si, camaleon, es asi como lo planteas, despues de enviar el correo me percate que tenia apuntando multimedia a jessie y ese era el problema. cambie el repo, lance una actualizacion y volvio a funcionar. gracias por el tiempo para mirar. gracias lista. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CA+0kpa0ANfON=rsswgegm7hqh0hc-t2wsxuxwn3fbu7zrfn...@mail.gmail.com
New with ADSL: please help with wired connection
Hi all. Yesterday I received a Modem-Router for my brand new ADSL connection, which I've never used before (first old analogic modem, then usb stick with sim card in it), and it works fine in wifi mode but from Gnome Network Manager it seems I can't succesfully make work in `Wired' mode: in fact, if I turn off wifi, I have no connection left. Here's `ifconfig' output: # ifconfig bond0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 72:2f:20:62:cf:b7 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MASTER MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:23:8b:a2:6b:02 inet addr:192.168.0.4 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::223:8bff:fea2:6b02/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:68 errors:0 dropped:1 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:81 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:3 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:10333 (10.0 KiB) TX bytes:10162 (9.9 KiB) loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:65536 Metric:1 RX packets:9278 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:9278 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:762890 (745.0 KiB) TX bytes:762890 (745.0 KiB) wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:25:56:93:ee:30 inet addr:192.168.1.3 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::225:56ff:fe93:ee30/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:6358 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:5546 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:5900303 (5.6 MiB) TX bytes:685774 (669.7 KiB) , where the last item, wlan0, is missing when wifi is off. Help much appreciated from whoever can. Thanks, Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87si9d5gfx@gmail.com
problemas actualizacion testing
buenas lista, hoy actualice mi testing en debian (ya no se cual nombre tiene, antes era jessie :)) y me quedaron paquetes sin instalar, basicamente se detuvo aqui No se satisfacen las dependencias de los siguientes paquetes: librtmp1 : Depende: libhogweed2 pero no es instalable. Depende: libnettle4 pero no es instalable. me lance a instalar a mano ambas dependencias y no existen! o sea libhogweed2 libnettle4 no estan en mis repositorios, que son los siguientes ## Debian Testing deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free ## Actualizaciones de seguridad deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free #multimedia deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org jessie main non-free y los vengo utilizando desde hace bastante. al parecer estaban/estan en jessie segun https://packages.debian.org/jessie/libhogweed2 ahora haciendo apt-cache search veo que libhogweed esta en version 4, y esta instalado. lo mismo con libnettle que paso de 4 a 6 en su version, esto me deja sin poder utilizar, entre otras cosas, conky y libreoffice alguna idea al respecto? muchas gracias -- Windows? Reboot Debian? beRoot -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+0kpa0yzfevwuwap81sdgez6xnbp92twqkrur2kiwzopaf...@mail.gmail.com
Re: problemas actualizacion testing
El Sat, 27 Jun 2015 12:40:40 -0300, Ricardo Delgado escribió: buenas lista, hoy actualice mi testing en debian (ya no se cual nombre tiene, antes era jessie :)) Stretch se llama ahora. y me quedaron paquetes sin instalar, basicamente se detuvo aqui No se satisfacen las dependencias de los siguientes paquetes: librtmp1 : Depende: libhogweed2 pero no es instalable. Depende: libnettle4 pero no es instalable. me lance a instalar a mano ambas dependencias y no existen! o sea libhogweed2 libnettle4 no estan en mis repositorios, que son los siguientes (...) A ver... el paquete librtmp1 de los repos oficiales depende de libhogweed4 y éste último de libnettle6 que sí están en los repos. Si estás actualizando el paquete desde otro repo (¿D-M?) tendrás que habilitar la ruta a los paquete fuente correctas: deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org testing main non-free Tras cambiar el /etc/apt/sources.list ejecuta: apt-get update apt-get -V dist-upgrade Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2015.06.27.16.15...@gmail.com
RE: aptitude full-upgrade bug?
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 12:38:36 -0400 From: garyd...@torfree.net I've upgraded two machines [..] they failed to upgrade the kernel. [..] I suspect this could be because the meta-package linux-image-amd64 wasn't installed, but even that doesn't make a lot of sense. Shouldn't a full-upgrade bring all the packages up to the current version? That makes a lot of sense, actually. Linux kernel images are co- installable, one version does not replace the other. So in order to have an upgrade path for these packages, the metapackage linux-image-$arch exists. If you don't have the metapackage, you don't get new kernels. This is not unique to the kernel, for example gcc, python and postgresql follow the same method. However, in those cases, other packages depend on the metapackage so you usually can't uninstall it. The kernel is unique in that no package depends on it. In any case, jessie should be able to boot with a kernel from wheezy iirc. So there may be a bug lurking there, but it's not a bug in aptitude. Regards, Arno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/dub124-w7c4d4701b6cc2eb44e6c4b8...@phx.gbl
Re: What's the difference between sensible-utils and native debian Alternatives?
On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 16:49:15 +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Sat, 2015-06-27 at 16:58 +0300, Jayson Willson wrote: Hello. Could you please tell me, what is the difference between, for example, /usr/bin/editor (which will be a symling to an editor chosen with update-alternatives --config editor) and /usr/bin/sensible-editor? What about pager and sensible-pager? I do not get the practical difference. Thank you. That's a good question! :) From simply skimming through the scripts, it seems to mostly be an easy way to set preferred applications through environment variables $PAGER, $EDITOR etc. That's the basic idea. But note that not all the preferred applications are set through environment variables, at least not as a matter of course. The one for an editor, for example. I guess as a per-user setting instead of system-wide through alternatives? The OP should imagine he does not have root access and likes to use nano for his editor. /usr/bin/editor is a link into the alternatives system and may point to vim. /usr/bin/sensible-editor first looks for the file ~/.selected_editor and gives him a choice of editors if it does not exist. A script for calling a file to read should use sensible-editor, not editor -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/27062015175510.fba776eb4...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
sensible-editor (browser, pager) is too long and not convenient to auto-complete. Pity
Re: aptitude full-upgrade bug?
On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 14:05:17 -0400, Gary Dale wrote: On 27/06/15 01:12 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 27 June 2015 17:38:36 Gary Dale wrote: I've upgraded two machines from wheezy to jessie over the last month or so and noticed the same behaviour on both. In both cases they failed to upgrade the kernel. In both cases this left the machines unable to complete a boot and I had to use the systemV init option to get to a command line. I suspect this could be because the meta-package linux-image-amd64 wasn't installed, but even that doesn't make a lot of sense. Shouldn't a full-upgrade bring all the packages up to the current version? Has anyone else encountered this problem? Did you upgrade to systemd or sysvinit? It sounds like the second. Lisi No. The full-upgrade option (equivalent to dist-upgrade in apt-get) does a full upgrade. It's the systemd boot that fails. There are, as Arno explained, probably something that doesn't work with systemd and a 3.2 kernel. My interpretation is that he didn't say that. The failure to boot with a Wheezy kernel is perplexing. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150627185900.gm4...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Gestion changements de password root multi-serveurs
On Saturday 27 June 2015 15:46:30 gagou9 wrote: Avoir une carte KVM sur son serveur distant n'est pas un HS. C'est la seule solution pour être sûr de pouvoir le contacter et avoir toujours la main sur lui. Ton argumentation serait valable si il est possible facilement de se mettre physiquement face au serveur. Qui reprochait à quelqu'un d'être trop péremptoire ? :) : C'est moi. Aurais-je été un peu trop excessif ? On va voir :-) Avoir un KVM n'est *pas* la *seule* solution! Je n'ai jamais eu de KVM, mais je me suis plusieurs fois enfermé dehors, en faisant de la merde avec iptables, par exemple. Une fois, j'ai aussi perdu mon mot de passe root. Sur un serveur. Et pour réparer, j'ai redémarré ma machine sur un système de secours (fourni par mon hébergeur, qui utilise trinity rescue kit, démarré par le réseau, monté en ram), j'ai monté mes disques, chrooté dans le serveur, et réparé mes erreurs : Donc un système équivalent à un KVM (Kernel-based Virtual Machine), que je pourrais baptiser un TRK (Trinity Rescue Kit). C'est sur qu'avec un KVM ç'aurait été plus simple, mais ça n'est clairement pas la seule solution, surtout qu'elle est plus coûteuse (beaucoup d'hébergeurs te font payer ce service, et ça demande une IP supplémentaire). Bien à vous ! J'en profite alors : Je serais heureux d'avoir des infos sur le trinity rescue kit, car si un kvm est une option payante, c'est intéressant pour tous ceux qui ont un serveur distant. Trinity rescue kit vient-il du bureau du même nom Trinity DEsktop (TDE) ? Merci d'avance et bonne soirée. André -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506272059.44064.andre_deb...@numericable.fr
Re: Connecting laptop to internet via cell network
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 10:06:26PM +0100, Joe wrote: On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:55:07 -0500 Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Thu, 2015-06-25 at 09:06 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for a USB modem for cell network (preferred) or a WiFi hot spot (minimally acceptable). USB dongle - not common now - for GSM / 3G here. Costs virtually nothing added to a phone contract but superseded by Mifi - mobile wifi hotspot - 4G / LTE - readily available but with a cost per month / limitatiions in the amount of Gb you can download per month. Both available from Asda - your Walmart - for example. Neither much use outside good mobile / cell range. Not usable in the middle of absolutely nowhere. Huawei make a lot of the chipsets. The Mifi doesn't need physical connection - something that looks about the size of a packet of 20 cigarettes or smaller to sit in the middle of the room / a car and provide Wifi coverage for up to 10 devices. SIM card inside and you're good to go. Will contain a rechargeable battery. If you can connect your laptop to a Wifi hotspot, you're good to go, irrespective of OS. Both will provide you with far more bandwidth than you've been used to. But this is from a European (and specifically English) perspective - which may be very different. HTH, AndyC Where might I find info on what works cleanly with Debian. I'm in a medium size city in SW Missouri (multiple carriers available). Other usage will be along interstates in eastern U.S. Try http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/ The links from that URL should prove very educational. I've got a couple days of reading to do ;) and see if you can find a device in this list http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/device_reference.txt There's a couple here: https://wiki.debian.org/Modem I have a Huawei/ZTE modem which I used a few times in the last week on sid. Unfortunately, I've been using it on Windows and Linux for least five years, and it will therefore be unobtainable today. The trick is to find what chipset a modem uses, which can be difficult, after that it is relatively easy to find out if there is a driver, if anyone has problems, etc. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150626220626.6a5ac...@jresid.jretrading.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150627210751.ga2...@galactic.demon.co.uk
Re: Visualiser une vidéo de MyTF1 avec Firefox
Bonsoir, Avec un peu de retard, je reprends ce fil... Je viens de tester et, chez moi, ça marche très bien (bien sûr, j'ai arrêté l'épisode très vite ;-)). Quelle est ma config ? J'utilise la version 38.0.1-5 et surtout (je pense que c'est là que tu peux creuser si tu souhaites utiliser ce service) pipelight. En gros : # apt-get install pipelight-multi # pipelight-plugin --update # pipelight-plugin --unlock adobereader # pipelight-plugin --accept --enable adobereader # pipelight-plugin --unlock x64-flash # pipelight-plugin --accept --enable x64-flash # pipelight-plugin --unlock shockwave # pipelight-plugin --accept --enable shockwave # pipelight-plugin --accept --enable silverlight5.1 # pipelight-plugin --accept --enable widevine Bons tests. David. Le Fri, 26 Jun 2015 16:20:53 +, Alex PADOLY apado...@padoly.besaba.com a écrit : Bonsoir à tous, Je fonctionne sous DEBIAN avec firefox et les seules vidéos que je ne peux pas voir sont celles de MyTF1: - soit cela mouline en permanence après avoir vu plusieurs pubs; - soit j'ai un message qui me dit de désactiver un bloqueur de publicité. Essayez de visualiser un épisode d'une série bien connue sur le lien suivant: http://www.tf1.fr/tf1/les-feux-de-l-amour/videos/feux-de-l-amour-episode-25-juin-2015.html Merci beaucoup pour votre aide et vos conseils. Alex PADOLY pgpX8ki0RMP1w.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: network-manager in Jessie upgrade issues
On Saturday 27 June 2015 22:42:11 Sam Smith wrote: I upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie today on my laptop. I cannot get wifi to work now. I have been using network-manager with KDE for years now. I tried removing everything network-manager related through apt and starting over but that didn't work. I have network-manager and plasma-widget-networkmanagement installed and can configure interfaces through the GUI. Wired works, but wireless never fully connects no matter if security (WPA2) is being used or not. See attached log. I tried using Wicd and it worked fine to connect to wifi so I don't think my hardware is at fault. I am currently trying to figure out how to get more verbose logging from either network-manager or the wpa supplicant, all docs I can find seem irrelevant so at least looking for tips on that. If wicd works why not use it? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506272254.59880.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 21:48:32 +0300, Jayson Willson wrote: sensible-editor (browser, pager) is too long and not convenient to auto-complete. Pity This mail appears to relate to https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/06/msg01553.html Its writer appears to lack the comprehension to understand what was said in that thread. Against my normal practice this mail has been CC'ed to the OP. He may appreciate being informed he has an idiot on his network. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150627202033.gn4...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: CUPS is just killing me
On Saturday 27 June 2015 21:17:45 bri...@aracnet.com wrote: well, i tried to purge the avahi thingy and accidentally purged cups i reinstalled cups AND i had saved a copy of the /etc/cups directory such in the event of such an occassion. so i re-copied the entire directory. and the printer didn't work. furthermore cups is not acting the same. so in desperation I tried: ipp://192.168.1.111/ipp and lo and behold i can print a test page. But, now none of the other computers on the network see the cups server. just absolutely killing me. I would thoroughly purge the whole lot, reinstall CUPS using apt/apt-get/aptitude whatever. Install the driver. All the bits. (I seem to remember that there are at least two) And configure properly from scratch using the http://localhost:631 interface, and nothing else. Just this once, forget the command line. Let CUPS do its stuff *without* *interference*. You might be pleasantly surprised. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506272305.06116.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: network-manager in Jessie upgrade issues
On 06/27/2015 04:42 PM, Sam Smith wrote: I upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie today on my laptop. I cannot get wifi to work now. I have been using network-manager with KDE for years now. I tried removing everything network-manager related through apt and starting over but that didn't work. I have network-manager and plasma-widget-networkmanagement installed and can configure interfaces through the GUI. Wired works, but wireless never fully connects no matter if security (WPA2) is being used or not. See attached log. I tried using Wicd and it worked fine to connect to wifi so I don't think my hardware is at fault. I am currently trying to figure out how to get more verbose logging from either network-manager or the wpa supplicant, all docs I can find seem irrelevant so at least looking for tips on that. Thanks, Sam An update. added super debug mode '-dd' to wpa_supplicant startup in file /lib/systemd/system/wpa_supplicant.service Noticed the driver being used was 'nl80211'. Copied /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/examples/wpa2-eap-ccmp.conf and made an example conf file to run a standalone wpa supplicant instance with: wpa_supplicant -i wlan0 -dd -c wpa-psk-tkip.conf Noticed that it just stayed in a loop of auth-disconnect-re-auth (like it had been) Forced the driver to 'wext', and it then worked fine Looks like this was a default that was changed during the Wheezy life time: http://w1.fi/cgit/hostap/plain/wpa_supplicant/ChangeLog 2014-02-04 - v2.1 * changed the default driver interface from wext to nl80211 if both are included in the build At this point I am trying to figure out how to get network-manager to force and use the wext driver with wpa_supplicant. This page mentions a config flag 'wifi-wext-only' but it doesn't work: http://linux.die.net/man/5/networkmanager.conf And forcing the wpa_supplicant to start up with -Dwext to force the driver still allows network-manager to override and break again :( This is on a Thinkpad T61, I have no idea how I am the only one bitten by this?? --Sam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558f4473.8020...@net153.net
Re: New with ADSL: please help with wired connection
On 06/27/2015 08:17 AM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Yesterday I received a Modem-Router for my brand new ADSL connection, We need more information to help you. What distribution of Debian are you running? What is the make and model of the Modem-Router? Who is your ADSL provider? Do they provide you with dynamic or static IP addresses? How many? IP version 4 or 6? Other than your telephone line and power, what else is connected to the Modem-Router -- wired and WiFi? What is the IP address of your local area network? Do the devices on the LAN have static or dynamic addresses? If dynamic, where is the DHCP server? Same as above for your WiFi network. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558f4e7b.9070...@holgerdanske.com
Re: CUPS is just killing me
On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 14:03:00 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 21:40:58 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 13:17:45 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: well, i tried to purge the avahi thingy and accidentally purged cups I've not had my mind boggled in a long time but it is boggling now; in spades. avahi-daemon is only a recommendation. It is impossible to purge cups by its removal bah. i am mistaken. i tried to get rid of libavahi* As you have found out the hard way: cups depends on libavahi-client3 and libavahi-common3. i reinstalled cups AND i had saved a copy of the /etc/cups directory such in the event of such an occassion. so i re-copied the entire directory. and the printer didn't work. furthermore cups is not acting the same. so in desperation I tried: ipp://192.168.1.111/ipp An unknown technique. well it's internet printing protocol and i find it neither more nor less decipherable than the previous working configuration. I know what ipp is. and lo and behold i can print a test page. But, now none of the other computers on the network see the cups server. just absolutely killing me. What do think it is doing to us? We await further developments. an upgrade to latest stable... People upgrading from a *working* Wheezy cups have generally not noticed any change in their printing experience. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/27062015220931.263d0ba14...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Fwd: Unable to locate Bug's package
On 06/27/2015 at 08:35 PM, Nile Aagard wrote: To whom it may concern, At present, I'm experiencing a nasty bug somewhere in my desktop environment. I recently upgraded to Debian 8 which has given me a myriad of problems, the latest of which being an intermittent issue where all new windows and menus are rendered as a black box on the screen. At a glance, that sort of rendering issue can be in one of three places: the graphics driver (either kernel or X), the GLX / etc. stack, or the window manager. I had an issue superficially like it a while back which turned out to be a bug in my WM's handling of a specific feature used by the theme I was using but not by any of the ones the developers tested with. Whether a memory leak is involved or not, the first place to look would be identifying your graphics driver, your GLX provider (there are at least three in Debian), and your window manager. From there, it should be possible to at least determine a set of packages, one of which is probably your culprit. -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
network-manager in Jessie upgrade issues
I upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie today on my laptop. I cannot get wifi to work now. I have been using network-manager with KDE for years now. I tried removing everything network-manager related through apt and starting over but that didn't work. I have network-manager and plasma-widget-networkmanagement installed and can configure interfaces through the GUI. Wired works, but wireless never fully connects no matter if security (WPA2) is being used or not. See attached log. I tried using Wicd and it worked fine to connect to wifi so I don't think my hardware is at fault. I am currently trying to figure out how to get more verbose logging from either network-manager or the wpa supplicant, all docs I can find seem irrelevant so at least looking for tips on that. Thanks, Sam Jun 27 16:36:22 t61 NetworkManager[2942]: info Activation (wlan0) starting connection 'NETGEAR - 1' Jun 27 16:36:22 t61 NetworkManager[2942]: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled... Jun 27 16:36:22 t61 NetworkManager[2942]: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started... Jun 27 16:36:22 t61 NetworkManager[2942]: info (wlan0): device state change: disconnected - prepare (reason 'none') [30 40 0] Jun 27 16:36:22 t61 NetworkManager[2942]: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled... Jun 27 16:36:22 t61 NetworkManager[2942]: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete. Jun 27 16:36:22 t61 NetworkManager[2942]: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) starting... Jun 27 16:36:22 t61 NetworkManager[2942]: info (wlan0): device state change: prepare - config (reason 'none') [40 50 0] Jun 27 16:36:22 t61 NetworkManager[2942]: info Activation (wlan0/wireless): connection 'NETGEAR - 1' requires no security. No secrets needed. Jun 27 16:36:22 t61 NetworkManager[2942]: info Config: added 'ssid' value 'NETGEAR - 1' Jun 27 16:36:22 t61 NetworkManager[2942]: info Config: added 'scan_ssid' value '1' Jun 27 16:36:22 t61 NetworkManager[2942]: info Config: added 'key_mgmt' value 'NONE' Jun 27 16:36:22 t61 NetworkManager[2942]: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete. Jun 27 16:36:22 t61 NetworkManager[2942]: info Config: set interface ap_scan to 1 Jun 27 16:36:22 t61 NetworkManager[2942]: info (wlan0): supplicant interface state: inactive - scanning Jun 27 16:36:24 t61 wpa_supplicant[2964]: wlan0: SME: Trying to authenticate with 07:0f:b5:53:a7:48 (SSID='NETGEAR - 1' freq=2412 MHz) Jun 27 16:36:24 t61 kernel: [ 2168.681123] wlan0: authenticate with 07:0f:b5:53:a7:48 Jun 27 16:36:24 t61 kernel: [ 2168.683494] wlan0: send auth to 07:0f:b5:53:a7:48 (try 1/3) Jun 27 16:36:24 t61 wpa_supplicant[2964]: wlan0: Trying to associate with 07:0f:b5:53:a7:48 (SSID='NETGEAR - 1' freq=2412 MHz) Jun 27 16:36:24 t61 kernel: [ 2168.685304] wlan0: authenticated Jun 27 16:36:24 t61 kernel: [ 2168.685636] iwl3945 :03:00.0 wlan0: disabling HT as WMM/QoS is not supported by the AP Jun 27 16:36:24 t61 kernel: [ 2168.685646] iwl3945 :03:00.0 wlan0: disabling VHT as WMM/QoS is not supported by the AP Jun 27 16:36:24 t61 NetworkManager[2942]: info (wlan0): supplicant interface state: scanning - associating Jun 27 16:36:24 t61 kernel: [ 2168.689264] wlan0: associate with 07:0f:b5:53:a7:48 (try 1/3) Jun 27 16:36:24 t61 kernel: [ 2168.892069] wlan0: associate with 07:0f:b5:53:a7:48 (try 2/3) Jun 27 16:36:25 t61 kernel: [ 2169.096050] wlan0: associate with 07:0f:b5:53:a7:48 (try 3/3) Jun 27 16:36:25 t61 kernel: [ 2169.300083] wlan0: association with 07:0f:b5:53:a7:48 timed out Jun 27 16:36:25 t61 wpa_supplicant[2964]: wlan0: CTRL-EVENT-SSID-TEMP-DISABLED id=0 ssid=NETGEAR - 1 auth_failures=1 duration=10 reason=CONN_FAILED Jun 27 16:36:25 t61 NetworkManager[2942]: info (wlan0): supplicant interface state: associating - disconnected Jun 27 16:36:35 t61 NetworkManager[2942]: info (wlan0): supplicant interface state: disconnected - scanning Jun 27 16:36:37 t61 wpa_supplicant[2964]: wlan0: CTRL-EVENT-SSID-REENABLED id=0 ssid=NETGEAR - 1 Jun 27 16:36:37 t61 wpa_supplicant[2964]: wlan0: SME: Trying to authenticate with 07:0f:b5:53:a7:48 (SSID='NETGEAR - 1' freq=2412 MHz) Jun 27 16:36:37 t61 kernel: [ 2181.337603] wlan0: authenticate with 07:0f:b5:53:a7:48 Jun 27 16:36:37 t61 kernel: [ 2181.339937] wlan0: send auth to 07:0f:b5:53:a7:48 (try 1/3) Jun 27 16:36:37 t61 kernel: [ 2181.343497] wlan0: authenticated Jun 27 16:36:37 t61 kernel: [ 2181.344245] iwl3945 :03:00.0 wlan0: disabling HT as WMM/QoS is not supported by the AP Jun 27 16:36:37 t61 kernel: [ 2181.344254] iwl3945 :03:00.0 wlan0: disabling VHT as WMM/QoS is not supported by the AP Jun 27 16:36:37 t61 wpa_supplicant[2964]: wlan0: Trying to associate with 07:0f:b5:53:a7:48 (SSID='NETGEAR - 1' freq=2412 MHz) Jun 27 16:36:37 t61 NetworkManager[2942]: info (wlan0): supplicant interface state: scanning - authenticating Jun 27 16:36:37 t61
Re: CUPS is just killing me
On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 22:16:54 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 14:03:00 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: People upgrading from a *working* Wheezy cups have generally not noticed any change in their printing experience. the upgrade went very well as has always been my experience with Debian :-) so things are still strange. upon re-boot the ipp connection set-up did work BUT ONLY FOR ICEWEASEL. evince can see the printer but can't print because: Returning IPP client-error-bad-request for Print-Job (ipp://192.168.1.1:631/printers/Brother_DCP-8110DN) from 192.168.1.40 libreoffice writer can't see the printer at all. So i went back in to cups administration and found my good friend : dnssd://Brother%20DCP-8110DN._ipp._tcp.local/ which is the working connection i had before. it decided to show up when it wouldn' before, possibly related to libavahi ? so here's where it gets weird. i selected the dnssd printer connection. i restarted cups and cups-browsed (do i need cups-browsed ?) and then tried evince again, but i still get the same message: Returning IPP client-error-bad-request for Print-Job (ipp://192.168.1.1:631/printers/Brother_DCP-8110DN) from 192.168.1.40 why am i getting ipp in the error log when i've switched to the dnssd connection ??? it looks like evince is still getting the old printer advertisement, or something... of course- how these apps are actually retrieving the printer interface is a great mystery. i'm assuming they are built with some sort of cups access library ? Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150627181540.49c8e...@cedar.deldotd.com
Fwd: Unable to locate Bug's package
To whom it may concern, At present, I'm experiencing a nasty bug somewhere in my desktop environment. I recently upgraded to Debian 8 which has given me a myriad of problems, the latest of which being an intermittent issue where all new windows and menus are rendered as a black box on the screen. It is my belief that this has something to do memory utilization somewhere in the system, likely a leak and/or a bad lock, and needs to be fixed. The reason I think this is because it tends to result over time and depending on the kinds of applications I'm running (pdflatex via commandline seems to be the fastest way to instigate the issue while I tend to notice it after watching youtube for a few hours via Iceweasel). I have seen no other reports of this issue on the Internet which lead me to believe it to be a memory issue considering my system is running on 2 GB of RAM, however when watching the resources graph (I remembered to launch it first thing so I could check it when it happened again) I saw that memory usage was less than 80%. The resources did not reveal any issues that I could detect that might attribute to this problem. I have went to report this bug to initiate it's repair, but I don't have any clue what package it's in and don't have any idea how to debug the issue. How should I proceed? I have attempted to give you all the information I have in case you are better equip to pinpoint the issue than I. Signed, ~Nile Aagard
CUPS is just killing me
well, i tried to purge the avahi thingy and accidentally purged cups i reinstalled cups AND i had saved a copy of the /etc/cups directory such in the event of such an occassion. so i re-copied the entire directory. and the printer didn't work. furthermore cups is not acting the same. so in desperation I tried: ipp://192.168.1.111/ipp and lo and behold i can print a test page. But, now none of the other computers on the network see the cups server. just absolutely killing me. Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150627131745.4171b...@cedar.deldotd.com
Re: CUPS is just killing me
On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 13:17:45 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: well, i tried to purge the avahi thingy and accidentally purged cups I've not had my mind boggled in a long time but it is boggling now; in spades. avahi-daemon is only a recommendation. It is impossible to purge cups by its removal i reinstalled cups AND i had saved a copy of the /etc/cups directory such in the event of such an occassion. so i re-copied the entire directory. and the printer didn't work. furthermore cups is not acting the same. so in desperation I tried: ipp://192.168.1.111/ipp An unknown technique. and lo and behold i can print a test page. But, now none of the other computers on the network see the cups server. just absolutely killing me. What do think it is doing to us? We await further developments. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/27062015213312.d154fb82b...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: CUPS is just killing me
On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 21:40:58 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sat 27 Jun 2015 at 13:17:45 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: well, i tried to purge the avahi thingy and accidentally purged cups I've not had my mind boggled in a long time but it is boggling now; in spades. avahi-daemon is only a recommendation. It is impossible to purge cups by its removal bah. i am mistaken. i tried to get rid of libavahi* i reinstalled cups AND i had saved a copy of the /etc/cups directory such in the event of such an occassion. so i re-copied the entire directory. and the printer didn't work. furthermore cups is not acting the same. so in desperation I tried: ipp://192.168.1.111/ipp An unknown technique. well it's internet printing protocol and i find it neither more nor less decipherable than the previous working configuration. and lo and behold i can print a test page. But, now none of the other computers on the network see the cups server. just absolutely killing me. What do think it is doing to us? We await further developments. an upgrade to latest stable... Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150627140300.406a7...@cedar.deldotd.com
Re: CUPS is just killing me
On Saturday 27 June 2015 21:17:45 bri...@aracnet.com wrote: well, i tried to purge the avahi thingy and accidentally purged cups Don't you read what apt/aptitude is intending to remove before agreeing??? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506272253.55122.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Visualiser une vidéo de MyTF1 avec Firefox
Le Sat, 27 Jun 2015 23:34:53 +0200, David BERCOT deb...@bercot.org a écrit : Bonsoir, Avec un peu de retard, je reprends ce fil... Je viens de tester et, chez moi, ça marche très bien (bien sûr, j'ai arrêté l'épisode très vite ;-)). Quelle est ma config ? J'utilise la version 38.0.1-5 et surtout (je pense que c'est là que tu peux creuser si tu souhaites utiliser ce service) pipelight. En gros : # apt-get install pipelight-multi # pipelight-plugin --update # pipelight-plugin --unlock adobereader # pipelight-plugin --accept --enable adobereader # pipelight-plugin --unlock x64-flash # pipelight-plugin --accept --enable x64-flash # pipelight-plugin --unlock shockwave # pipelight-plugin --accept --enable shockwave # pipelight-plugin --accept --enable silverlight5.1 # pipelight-plugin --accept --enable widevine Bons tests. David. bonjour, voici le lien pointant vers le tutoriel : http://pipelight.net/cms/install/installation-debian.html slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150628044758.1f14bcc1.bernard.schoenac...@free.fr
Re: network-manager in Jessie upgrade issues
Indeed :) --Sam 'the' smith On 06/27/2015 09:34 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Wait...*the* Sam smith? ahem! Sorry, could not resist. Kare with in the Lonely hours, playing in the windmills of her mind On Sat, 27 Jun 2015, Sam Smith wrote: On 06/27/2015 04:42 PM, Sam Smith wrote: I upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie today on my laptop. I cannot get wifi to work now. I have been using network-manager with KDE for years now. I tried removing everything network-manager related through apt and starting over but that didn't work. I have network-manager and plasma-widget-networkmanagement installed and can configure interfaces through the GUI. Wired works, but wireless never fully connects no matter if security (WPA2) is being used or not. See attached log. I tried using Wicd and it worked fine to connect to wifi so I don't think my hardware is at fault. I am currently trying to figure out how to get more verbose logging from either network-manager or the wpa supplicant, all docs I can find seem irrelevant so at least looking for tips on that. Thanks, Sam An update. added super debug mode '-dd' to wpa_supplicant startup in file /lib/systemd/system/wpa_supplicant.service Noticed the driver being used was 'nl80211'. Copied /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/examples/wpa2-eap-ccmp.conf and made an example conf file to run a standalone wpa supplicant instance with: wpa_supplicant -i wlan0 -dd -c wpa-psk-tkip.conf Noticed that it just stayed in a loop of auth-disconnect-re-auth (like it had been) Forced the driver to 'wext', and it then worked fine Looks like this was a default that was changed during the Wheezy life time: http://w1.fi/cgit/hostap/plain/wpa_supplicant/ChangeLog 2014-02-04 - v2.1 * changed the default driver interface from wext to nl80211 if both are included in the build At this point I am trying to figure out how to get network-manager to force and use the wext driver with wpa_supplicant. This page mentions a config flag 'wifi-wext-only' but it doesn't work: http://linux.die.net/man/5/networkmanager.conf And forcing the wpa_supplicant to start up with -Dwext to force the driver still allows network-manager to override and break again :( This is on a Thinkpad T61, I have no idea how I am the only one bitten by this?? --Sam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558f4473.8020...@net153.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558f61f2.1050...@net153.net
Re: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
No, I have understood everything, what was being discussed in this thread. My comment about sensible-* command itself was just a comment, which meant these programs are however not to convenient to use. Sorry.
Re: network-manager in Jessie upgrade issues
Wait...*the* Sam smith? ahem! Sorry, could not resist. Kare with in the Lonely hours, playing in the windmills of her mind On Sat, 27 Jun 2015, Sam Smith wrote: On 06/27/2015 04:42 PM, Sam Smith wrote: I upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie today on my laptop. I cannot get wifi to work now. I have been using network-manager with KDE for years now. I tried removing everything network-manager related through apt and starting over but that didn't work. I have network-manager and plasma-widget-networkmanagement installed and can configure interfaces through the GUI. Wired works, but wireless never fully connects no matter if security (WPA2) is being used or not. See attached log. I tried using Wicd and it worked fine to connect to wifi so I don't think my hardware is at fault. I am currently trying to figure out how to get more verbose logging from either network-manager or the wpa supplicant, all docs I can find seem irrelevant so at least looking for tips on that. Thanks, Sam An update. added super debug mode '-dd' to wpa_supplicant startup in file /lib/systemd/system/wpa_supplicant.service Noticed the driver being used was 'nl80211'. Copied /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/examples/wpa2-eap-ccmp.conf and made an example conf file to run a standalone wpa supplicant instance with: wpa_supplicant -i wlan0 -dd -c wpa-psk-tkip.conf Noticed that it just stayed in a loop of auth-disconnect-re-auth (like it had been) Forced the driver to 'wext', and it then worked fine Looks like this was a default that was changed during the Wheezy life time: http://w1.fi/cgit/hostap/plain/wpa_supplicant/ChangeLog 2014-02-04 - v2.1 * changed the default driver interface from wext to nl80211 if both are included in the build At this point I am trying to figure out how to get network-manager to force and use the wext driver with wpa_supplicant. This page mentions a config flag 'wifi-wext-only' but it doesn't work: http://linux.die.net/man/5/networkmanager.conf And forcing the wpa_supplicant to start up with -Dwext to force the driver still allows network-manager to override and break again :( This is on a Thinkpad T61, I have no idea how I am the only one bitten by this?? --Sam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558f4473.8020...@net153.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pine.bsf.4.64.1506272232240.62...@server1.shellworld.net
Re: debian jessie xen
Hum, Então no caso veja se o docker ou vagrant servem para sua demanda Em 27/06/15, debi...@inbox.lvdebi...@inbox.lv escreveu: Também uso o virt-manager e aqui funciona muito bem tanto com o xen como quemu/kvm. Apenas com o hypervisor LXC, não consegui fazer funcionar, o que é uma pena pois queria usá-lo como uma espécie de sandbox, virtualizando apenas programas e não um sistema operacional inteiro. On 27-06-2015 12:39, Helio Loureiro wrote: Oi, Instale libvirt/kvm e seja feliz com o virt-manager. Ele faz a vida ficar muito mais simples com uma interface gráfica chamada virt-manager. Eu tenho máquinas com kvm/xen e kvm/qemu. Infelizmente ou funciona com um ou com o outro. No começo eu achava xen mais rápido, mas atualmente acho que ambos tem o mesmo desempenho. OpenStack é só uma abstração. Ele funciona tanto com kvm/xen quanto kvm/qemu, mas usa kvm e libvirt. Abs, Helio Loureiro http://helio.loureiro.eng.br http://br.linkedin.com/in/helioloureiro http://twitter.com/helioloureiro http://gplus.to/helioloureiro Em 25 de junho de 2015 23:48, P. J. pjotam...@gmail.com mailto:pjotam...@gmail.com escreveu: Não se não for pré-requisto usar o xen, tem outro projeto muito bom, kvm[1] [1] http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Main_Page Em 25/06/15, Caio Ferreiraabreuf...@gmail.com mailto:abreuf...@gmail.com escreveu: prezado gustavo além de virtualização, eu pretendo começar a mexer com o software openstack, cloud computing. obrigado pela ajuda. .''`. Caio Abreu Ferreira : :' : abreuf...@gmail.com mailto:abreuf...@gmail.com `. `'` Debian User `- 2015-06-25 15:08 GMT-03:00 Gustavo S. L. ght...@gmail.com mailto:ght...@gmail.com: 2015-06-25 14:48 GMT-03:00 Caio Ferreira abreuf...@gmail.com mailto:abreuf...@gmail.com: No final das contas, como é um servidor novo, eu reinstalei o debian 8.10 na versão amd64. Sendo a máquina 64bits penso que foi melhor assim, inclusive por conta da virtualização, que exigirá processamento. Uma última dica é que se esta máquina for apenas para virtualização e você quiser um pool de servidores extendendo a relação para outras máquinas você pode usar o XCP (Xen Cloud Plataform). Acho que vale a pena dar uma conferida caso não conheça. -- Guto -- | .''`. A fé não dá respostas. Só impede perguntas. | : :' : | `. `'` | `- Je vois tout -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org mailto:debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org mailto:listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cacnf0pggekjrjh0ir25rhkxyooh_jfp26zr+u0coqf938ri...@mail.gmail.com -- .''`. : :' : `. `'` `- -- | .''`. A fé não dá respostas. Só impede perguntas. | : :' : | `. `'` | `- Je vois tout -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CACnf0pgwtWNYCXFQ4LTKHuaEkenJ_pJwDYLfc=-quggaiep...@mail.gmail.com
Re: network-manager in Jessie upgrade issues
On 06/27/2015 04:54 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 27 June 2015 22:42:11 Sam Smith wrote: I upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie today on my laptop. I cannot get wifi to work now. I have been using network-manager with KDE for years now. I tried removing everything network-manager related through apt and starting over but that didn't work. I have network-manager and plasma-widget-networkmanagement installed and can configure interfaces through the GUI. Wired works, but wireless never fully connects no matter if security (WPA2) is being used or not. See attached log. I tried using Wicd and it worked fine to connect to wifi so I don't think my hardware is at fault. I am currently trying to figure out how to get more verbose logging from either network-manager or the wpa supplicant, all docs I can find seem irrelevant so at least looking for tips on that. If wicd works why not use it? Lisi After many hours... I took your advice. And then realized that it doesn't have OpenVPN integration like network-manager... dang. --Sam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/558f6235.4030...@net153.net
