Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

2016-03-13 Thread David Wright
On Sun 13 Mar 2016 at 19:32:04 (+), Brian wrote:
> On Sat 12 Mar 2016 at 23:43:27 -0600, David Wright wrote:
> 
> > On Sat 12 Mar 2016 at 09:56:37 (+), Brian wrote:
> > 
> > > The PDL of choice for AirPrint capable devices is PDF. A PDF document
> > > sent to an Airprint capable printer is converted to BUL (the Brother
> > > Unknown Language) as it would be if it was processed on a workstation by
> > > CUPS.
> > > 
> > > Note that this is a conversion, not an interpretation. An interpreter
> > > produces a raster image and this happens later when the RIP deals with
> > > BUL.
> > 
> > So you appear to be saying that what passes through the AirPrint wire
> > or wifi link is a PDF. The printer then converts it to BUL, then raster.
> 
> The file type sent by Safari (say) from an iOS device is controlled by
> Apple. Observation shows it is PDF.

If you say so. I haven't observed anything as I don't have one
(neither iOS nor whatever is at the other end of the communication).

> > > The important word is "direct". The MFC-J5720DW doesn't have a  PDF
> > > interpreter. Hence the silence.
> > 
> > So if a PDF arrives by AirPrint, how does the MFC-J5720DW interpret it
> > if it doesn't have a PDF converter? (I am genuinely ignorant and confused.)
> 
> I've said specifically it has a PDF converter. It must have; the printer
> does not understand PDF.

Once again, I don't understand this statement because I don't
understand your terminology...

My question with pronouns removed: "So if a PDF arrives by AirPrint,
how does the MFC-J5720DW printer interpret the PDF if the MFC-J5720DW
printer doesn't have a PDF converter?"

Your response AIUI with pronouns removed: "I've said specifically the
MFC-J5720DW printer has a PDF converter. The MFC-J5720DW printer must
have; the MFC-J5720DW printer does not understand PDF."

Is that what you mean to say? If not, couuld you replace the
appropriate nouns by different nouns.

> > I'm used to this:
> > 
> > Paper -> scanner -> PDF containing image -> [...wifi...] -> computer
> > 
> > where the PDF is really just a container with an image in it.
> > And then its converse (but not its inverse):
> > 
> > Computer PDF -> CUPS -[convert]-> BUL -> [...wifi...] -> BrotherPrinter 
> > -[RIP]-> paper
> > 
> > where the Computer PDF contains some postscript-like code mixed
> > in with fonts etc which has to be "converted".
> > 
> > So now with AirPrint we have:
> > 
> > Phone PDF -[no-driver]-> [...wifi...] -> AirPrint -[convert]-> BUL -[RIP]-> 
> > paper
> > 
> > Linux computer PDF -> CUPS -> [...wifi...] -> AirPrint -[convert]-> BUL 
> > -[RIP]-> paper
> 
> That last line is not correct for using Debian CUPS with an iOS device.

That last line wasn't intended to represent my thinking on how an iOS
device would be handled. "Phone" is the iOS device, as shown in the
_previous_ line.

> The process is:
> 
> iOS device -> CUPS (BUL out) -> Printer -> Print
> 
> With CUPS the process is:
> 
> This is done by CUPS
> ++
> | Input file -> convert to PDF -> Convert to BUL | -> Printer does something
> ++
> 
> Because the sending device is driverless all I am saying (I have no
> special insight) is that with Airprint we have:
> 
>  Done on the printer
>+--+
> iOS device -> Sends PDF -> | Convert to BUL -> Printer does something |
>+--+
> 
> One filtering stage has to be moved to the printer. I do not know how it
> is done but it reasonable to guess the same method which CUPS uses is 
> also used. What I am sure about is that there is no PDF interpreter on
> the printer. Brother already have the technology to convert from PDF to
> BUL and, as a practical point, an interpreter would raise the cost of
> production of the printer.
> 
> Substitute PS, PCL, QPDL etc for BUL to see how other manufacturers 
> might deal with AirPrint.

None of your examples (the bits -> like -> this) have "AirPrint"
mentioned in them. I'm trying to learn from you what AirPrint is and
what it does. And yet your statements about it say things like
"The AirPrint facility handles a PDF (it has to)." and "Substitute PS,
PCL, QPDL etc for BUL to see how other manufacturers might deal with
AirPrint." which tell me nothing specifically about AirPrint.

> > but what does the backend of CUPS have to do? Why not just
> > cp ~/my-file.pdf dnssd://Brother%20Printer...
> > if you're not bothered about queueing/scheduling etc.
> 
> The part played by what is in the Bonjour broadcasts is crucial to the
> whole thing working. Apart from the questionable use of cp, IPP is used
> for printing and is what is advertised in the broadcasts.

OK. I can see that CUPS has some work to do to find the printer with
whatever it uses (dnssd/avahi/bonjour/...). That part 

Re: Iceweasel update error on Wheezy

2016-03-13 Thread sp113438
On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 03:46:13 +0100
sp113438  wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 23:46:45 +
> Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> 
> > I just got the following error after an update:
> > 
> > W: Failed to fetch
> > http://mozilla.debian.net/dists/wheezy-backports/Release: Unable to
> > find expected entry 'iceweasel-release/binary-amd64/Packages' in
> > Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
> > 
> > It was OK yesterday.  Here is the line in my sources list:
> > 
> > deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ wheezy-backports iceweasel-release
> > 
> > Just wait and see?  Is this because of the Firefox business???
> > 
> > Lisi
> > 
> Hi,
> 
> According to http://mozilla.debian.net/ a new line has to be added
> to /etc/apt/sources.list
> For me:
>  deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ jessie-backports
> firefox-esr
> 
> Gives me Iceweasel 44.0.2
> and Firefox 45
> 
> greetings,
> SP
> 

Hi,

iceweasel is gone now from my systems, and firefox ESR 45.0 runs as root
only :(

greetings
SP



Re: Iceweasel update error on Wheezy

2016-03-13 Thread sp113438
On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 23:46:45 +
Lisi Reisz  wrote:

> I just got the following error after an update:
> 
> W: Failed to fetch
> http://mozilla.debian.net/dists/wheezy-backports/Release: Unable to
> find expected entry 'iceweasel-release/binary-amd64/Packages' in
> Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
> 
> It was OK yesterday.  Here is the line in my sources list:
> 
> deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ wheezy-backports iceweasel-release
> 
> Just wait and see?  Is this because of the Firefox business???
> 
> Lisi
> 

Hi,

The same here, on Jessie. 
I can not install the new version of
Iceweasel.

SP



Re: Iceweasel update error on Wheezy

2016-03-13 Thread sp113438
On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 23:46:45 +
Lisi Reisz  wrote:

> I just got the following error after an update:
> 
> W: Failed to fetch
> http://mozilla.debian.net/dists/wheezy-backports/Release: Unable to
> find expected entry 'iceweasel-release/binary-amd64/Packages' in
> Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
> 
> It was OK yesterday.  Here is the line in my sources list:
> 
> deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ wheezy-backports iceweasel-release
> 
> Just wait and see?  Is this because of the Firefox business???
> 
> Lisi
> 
Hi,

According to http://mozilla.debian.net/ a new line has to be added
to /etc/apt/sources.list
For me:
 deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ jessie-backports
firefox-esr

Gives me Iceweasel 44.0.2
and Firefox 45

greetings,
SP



Iceweasel update error on Wheezy

2016-03-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
I just got the following error after an update:

W: Failed to fetch http://mozilla.debian.net/dists/wheezy-backports/Release: 
Unable to find expected entry 'iceweasel-release/binary-amd64/Packages' in 
Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)

It was OK yesterday.  Here is the line in my sources list:

deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ wheezy-backports iceweasel-release

Just wait and see?  Is this because of the Firefox business???

Lisi



Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

2016-03-13 Thread jdd

Le 13/03/2016 20:40, Brian a écrit :


*Direct* PDF printing is usually indicated in the printer's literature.


nothing is never sure. When it's so easy to try why don't?




this airprint feature is surprising


In what way?


if it don't support pdf...

but may be there is a pdf translator in the airprint device included in 
the printer


jdd



phpbb3

2016-03-13 Thread mattias

har installerat det via apt
och även phpbb3-l10n
men forumet hittar inte språken



Entendiendo UFW e IPTABLES

2016-03-13 Thread Ala de Dragón
Hola compañer@s. :D

Me he estado leyendo algunos manuales acerca de como funcionan los
proxys en debian. Hace tiempo configure uno llamado polipo corriendo
en debian 6.

Si bien la configuracion del proxy en si, ya no es un misterio... la
configuracion del cortafuegos es harina de otro costal.
Veamos.

El proxy esta corriendo en una maquina local, con IP local fija
192.168.1.10 y no presta servicio a otras maquinas. eth0 es la
interfaz de red y el usuario que corre el servicio de llama proxy.

El proxy escuha en los puertos http/https y encamina las coenxiones a
su destino final.

Lo que me gustaria lograr en el contafuegos es:

1) bloquear cualquier intento de conexion remota al proxy
2) permitir las conexiones mediante loopback al proxy
3)* redirigir las peticiones http/https desde localhost al proxy*
4)bloquear todas las demas conexiones http/https.

El apartado tres no tengo muy claro si realmente los necesito. He
configurado /etc/envairoment y el navegador y todo sale por defecto
por el proxy. Creo que meterme en FORWARD PORTS y sucedaneos puede no
ser necesario.

En UFW, en /etc/before.rules
He añadido al final del fichero, justo antes de comit, estas lineas.

#bloquear cualquier intento de conexion remota al proxy
-A ufw-before-input -p tcp -d 192.168.1.10 -i eth0 -m multiport
--dports 80,443 -j DROP
#darle salida al proxy mediante los puertos 80,443
-A ufw-before-output -p tcp -m multiport --dports 80,443 -m owner
--uid-owner proxy -j ACCEPT
#Bloquear todo lo demas en los puertos 80,443.
-A ufw-before-output -p tcp -m multiport --dports 80,443 -j DROP

Lo que consigo discernir es como crear la regla que permita solo a
localhost conectarse al proxy.


Si usted haria las reglas de otra manera, todo comentario dera bienvenido.
Saludos
:D


-- 
"El cielo es para los dragones
 lo que el agua es  para las ninfas"



Re: WiFi Guard

2016-03-13 Thread Pascal V
Le 13 mars 2016 à 08:42, jdd  a écrit :

Le 12/03/2016 23:49, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :

> Sinon, connaissez vous un outil graphique équivalent ?

> si tu as une freebox, freeboxos :-))

Pareil, sur ma "Neuf Box" SFR, j'y accède depuis http://192.168.1.1/network/nat



Re: Need help salvaging what I can from major disaster

2016-03-13 Thread Kynn Jones
@Russ, @Pascal: thanks for your comments and suggestions.  They are
very helpful.

kj



Re: Radeon trouble Jessie 8.3. [drm:radeon_pci_probe] *ERROR* with firmware-linux-nonfree installed

2016-03-13 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 04:31:51PM +, Trond Arild Ydersbond wrote:
> I have got this working on the same machine with Wheezy 7.6 and Knoppixes up 
> to and including 7.6.1, but it seems that radeon_pci_probe refuses to 
> recognize the installed firmware. Have tried different settings, but dmesg 
> stille gives the same error.
> *ERROR* radeon kernel modesetting for R600 or later requires 
> firmware-linux-nonfree
> 
> What can I do about this?

Install the firmware-linux-nonfree package? *Hint* check the repos or
just use apt-get. 

Oh, crap! I replied to the wrong post. It was meant for Udeesha Dilshan.


-- 
Bob Holtzman
A man is a man who will fight with a sword or
conquer Mt. Everest in snow. But the bravest of all
owns a '34 Ford and tries for six thousand in low.



Re: Radeon trouble Jessie 8.3. [drm:radeon_pci_probe] *ERROR* with firmware-linux-nonfree installed

2016-03-13 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 04:31:51PM +, Trond Arild Ydersbond wrote:
> I have got this working on the same machine with Wheezy 7.6 and Knoppixes up 
> to and including 7.6.1, but it seems that radeon_pci_probe refuses to 
> recognize the installed firmware. Have tried different settings, but dmesg 
> stille gives the same error.
> *ERROR* radeon kernel modesetting for R600 or later requires 
> firmware-linux-nonfree
> 
> What can I do about this?

Install the firmware-linux-nonfree package? *Hint* check the repos or
just use apt-get. 

-- 
Bob Holtzman
A man is a man who will fight with a sword or
conquer Mt. Everest in snow. But the bravest of all
owns a '34 Ford and tries for six thousand in low.



Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

2016-03-13 Thread Brian
On Sun 13 Mar 2016 at 20:21:45 +0100, jdd wrote:

> Le 13/03/2016 20:12, David Wright a écrit :
> 
> >As I said, you're in a different price bracket. Guessing by what I've
> >seen, it's partly because PDF printing tends to come with lasers
> >and ethernet, ie for office documents, not home photographs.
> >
> 
> but did you really try to send a pdf to your printer? only need to remove
> most of the paper to prevent loss if it don't fit :-)

*Direct* PDF printing is usually indicated in the printer's literature.

> this airprint feature is surprising

In what way?



Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

2016-03-13 Thread Brian
On Sat 12 Mar 2016 at 23:43:27 -0600, David Wright wrote:

> On Sat 12 Mar 2016 at 09:56:37 (+), Brian wrote:
> 
> > The PDL of choice for AirPrint capable devices is PDF. A PDF document
> > sent to an Airprint capable printer is converted to BUL (the Brother
> > Unknown Language) as it would be if it was processed on a workstation by
> > CUPS.
> > 
> > Note that this is a conversion, not an interpretation. An interpreter
> > produces a raster image and this happens later when the RIP deals with
> > BUL.
> 
> So you appear to be saying that what passes through the AirPrint wire
> or wifi link is a PDF. The printer then converts it to BUL, then raster.

The file type sent by Safari (say) from an iOS device is controlled by
Apple. Observation shows it is PDF.

> > The important word is "direct". The MFC-J5720DW doesn't have a  PDF
> > interpreter. Hence the silence.
> 
> So if a PDF arrives by AirPrint, how does the MFC-J5720DW interpret it
> if it doesn't have a PDF converter? (I am genuinely ignorant and confused.)

I've said specifically it has a PDF converter. It must have; the printer
does not understand PDF.

> I'm used to this:
> 
> Paper -> scanner -> PDF containing image -> [...wifi...] -> computer
> 
> where the PDF is really just a container with an image in it.
> And then its converse (but not its inverse):
> 
> Computer PDF -> CUPS -[convert]-> BUL -> [...wifi...] -> BrotherPrinter 
> -[RIP]-> paper
> 
> where the Computer PDF contains some postscript-like code mixed
> in with fonts etc which has to be "converted".
> 
> So now with AirPrint we have:
> 
> Phone PDF -[no-driver]-> [...wifi...] -> AirPrint -[convert]-> BUL -[RIP]-> 
> paper
> 
> Linux computer PDF -> CUPS -> [...wifi...] -> AirPrint -[convert]-> BUL 
> -[RIP]-> paper

That last line is not correct for using Debian CUPS with an iOS device.
The process is:

iOS device -> CUPS (BUL out) -> Printer -> Print

With CUPS the process is:

This is done by CUPS
++
| Input file -> convert to PDF -> Convert to BUL | -> Printer does something
++

Because the sending device is driverless all I am saying (I have no
special insight) is that with Airprint we have:

 Done on the printer
   +--+
iOS device -> Sends PDF -> | Convert to BUL -> Printer does something |
   +--+

One filtering stage has to be moved to the printer. I do not know how it
is done but it reasonable to guess the same method which CUPS uses is 
also used. What I am sure about is that there is no PDF interpreter on
the printer. Brother already have the technology to convert from PDF to
BUL and, as a practical point, an interpreter would raise the cost of
production of the printer.

Substitute PS, PCL, QPDL etc for BUL to see how other manufacturers 
might deal with AirPrint.

> but what does the backend of CUPS have to do? Why not just
> cp ~/my-file.pdf dnssd://Brother%20Printer...
> if you're not bothered about queueing/scheduling etc.

The part played by what is in the Bonjour broadcasts is crucial to the
whole thing working. Apart from the questionable use of cp, IPP is used
for printing and is what is advertised in the broadcasts.

The CUPS backend converts PDF to BUL. But, as it happens, you do not
need cupsd to print to an AirPrint printer.



Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

2016-03-13 Thread jdd

Le 13/03/2016 20:12, David Wright a écrit :


As I said, you're in a different price bracket. Guessing by what I've
seen, it's partly because PDF printing tends to come with lasers
and ethernet, ie for office documents, not home photographs.



but did you really try to send a pdf to your printer? only need to 
remove most of the paper to prevent loss if it don't fit :-)


this airprint feature is surprising

jdd



Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

2016-03-13 Thread David Wright
On Sun 13 Mar 2016 at 09:04:47 (+0100), jdd wrote:
> Le 13/03/2016 05:34, David Wright a écrit :
> 
> >Well, let's assume that most people buy their equipment rather than
> >being given it for free.
> 
> I also bought one for $25 (the two of them had already 200.000
> copies done :-) - but it's an obsolete machine now
> 
> of course it was trash bin machines, most companies do not keep
> machines for more than 5-7 years and you can have them second hand;
> but looks like french second hand is much cheaper than us ones.
> 
> but it was only an example
> 
> >I can see a refurbished one on the web for $340 (if that's the right
> >model) which is far more than a new AiO.
> 
> much too expensive
> 
> I found at first glance:
> 
> http://www.inmac-wstore.com/produits/p2622357/HP-LaserJet-Pro-400-M401d---imprimante---monochrome---laser.htm
> 
> I sure one can find some cheaper

Why are you suggesting monochrome models? Please let's compare like
with like. You've disputed my suggestion that having native support
for PDF printing makes a printer expensive compared with the
example in the subject line (list price $250).

> but I didn't said you have to change your Brother printer. I use
> daily Brother printers and I'm very glad about them
> 
> here the list of ps linux compatibles brother printers
> 
> http://www.openprinting.org/driver/Postscript-Brother/

which seems to confirm their expensiveness. Taking the lowest numbered
model in each category that prints colour (note, prints only) and is
available to buy:

DCP-9xxx you can buy these in India though I can't work out if they're new.
HL-2700CN $450 (refurbished)
MFC-9010CN $1100

As I said, you're in a different price bracket. Guessing by what I've
seen, it's partly because PDF printing tends to come with lasers
and ethernet, ie for office documents, not home photographs.

Cheers,
David.



Re: WiFi Guard

2016-03-13 Thread andre_debian
On Sunday 13 March 2016 08:42:27 jdd wrote:
> Le 12/03/2016 23:49, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
> > Sinon, connaissez vous un outil graphique équivalent ?

> si tu as une freebox, freeboxos :-))

Et non, c'est une box numericable,
en réalité une Netgear.

WiFi Guard est un freeware non libre,
gratis ppur Windows, payant pour Mac,
et il semble ne plus exister pour Linux,
développé par :
www.softperfect.com/products/wifiguard/

André

> Il y a cette solutiuon : www.wifiguard.cz/,
> mais je n'arrive pas à le lancer,
> La doc parle de "arp-scan" que j'ai installé, mais rien n'y fait...




howTo use cabal-debian to install pandoc-include.cabal

2016-03-13 Thread Haines Brown
I've reached the limits of my ability. I installed cabal-debian. Then
downloaded pandoc-include from github in order to enable pandoc to
convert a .tex file with includes to Word. In the pandoc-include-master
directory resulting from an unzip, there is a pandoc-include.cabal file.

Directions say to run cabal install pandoc-include. I try $ cabal-debian
install pandoc-include and it does not work because pandoc has no
install option. What am I doing wrong?

Haines Brown



Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

2016-03-13 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 22:34:41 -0600
David Wright  wrote:

...

> The HP5M is solely a printer which is fine as far as it goes, but now
> I need to buy a scanner, and quite possibly a fax machine, as well.
> AFAICT I'd have to use it through a parallel (or serial?) interface.
> This laptop has neither. You can network it with 10Base-T for a price,
> but no USB connection.

JFTR, it should be noted that USB - RS232 converters (which, AFAIK, all
use the same couple of chipsets which are well supported by linux) are
cheap and readily available, e.g.:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RS232-RS-232-Serial-to-USB-2-0-PL2303-Cable-Adapter-Converter-for-Linux-System-/271217594818

 
Celejar



Questions sur le pinning de packages

2016-03-13 Thread Francois Lafont
Bonjour à tous,

Ceci est un message que j'ai posté sur fr.comp.os.linux.conf il
y a une quinzaine de jour mais comme je n'ai pas eu de réponse
je tente ici.

J'ai deux questions sur les préférences APT et le pinning.

1) Voici un fichier de préférence APT sur un Ubuntu Trusty (désolé,
c'est la liste debian ici mais ça pourrait être une Debian Jessie
ça serait la même chose car le sujet ici uniquement est le pinning
et APT) :

~# cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/ceph.pref 
Explanation: To ensure the version of the ceph package.
Package: ceph
Pin: version 9.2.1-*
Pin-Priority: 990

Dans mon esprit, ce fichier est censé donner un priorité 990 (donc
une priorité assez haute) au paquet "ceph" _dans_ sa version « 9.2.1-* »
et _uniquement_ dans cette version là.

C'est en tout cas ce que je pensais mais je constate que la commande
suivante ne me confirme pas cela (au contraire même) :

~# apt-cache policy ceph
ceph:
  Installed: 9.2.1-1trusty
  Candidate: 9.2.1-1trusty
  Package pin: 9.2.1-1trusty
  Version table:
 *** 9.2.1-1trusty 990
500 http://ceph.com/debian-infernalis/ trusty/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 0.80.11-0ubuntu1.14.04.1 990  
<=== Là !
500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates/main amd64 
Packages
 0.79-0ubuntu1 990  
<== Et là !
500 http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/main amd64 Packages

Comme vous pouvez voir, j'ai ceci :
a) le paquet "ceph" en version 9.2.1-1trusty, issu du dépôt ceph.com ou bien
   celui qui est présentement installé sur la machine, est en priorité 990
   (ça, c'est comme je pensais)
b) mais le paquet "ceph" en version 0.80.11-0ubuntu1.14.04.1, issu des archives
   Ubuntu, a lui _aussi_ une priorité 990.
c) et idem pour le paquet "ceph" en version 0.79-0ubuntu1 (lui aussi issu des
   archives)

Pouvez-vous m'expliquer cela car je n'ai manifestement pas bien compris la
syntaxe et la signification des fichiers préférences APT ? Je pensais avoir
mis une priorité 990 seulement au paquet "ceph" en version 9.2.1-* et la
commande ci-dessus semble me dire que _tous_ les paquets "ceph" sont en
priorité 990, _toutes_ versions confondues ?

2. J'ai pourtant tenté de lire et comprendre APT_PREFERENCES(5) mais
manifestement des choses m'échappent. En fait, mon objectif final serait
d'arriver à faire ceci via des préférences APT. Je voudrais ceci :

a) tous les paquets issus du dépôt ceph.com ont une priorité faible (disons 50)
b) sauf pour les paquets issues de ceph.com dont le numéro de version matche
   « 9.2.1-* » où là je voudrais une priorité forte (disons 990).
c) si possible en évitant une énumération exhaustive de tous les paquets du
   dépôt ceph.com (car il y en a un certain nombre, pas seulement le paquet
   "ceph" lui-même).

En pratique, mon _vrai_ objectif est qu'aucune mise à jour des paquets issus
du dépôt ceph.com ne soit possible avec les commandes APT habituelles et que
tout reste figé à la version 9.2.1-*.

Est-ce possible de faire cela avec un ou des fichiers de préférences APT ?

Merci d'avance pour votre aide.

-- 
François Lafont



Re: Problema arrancando Debian 8.3 en laptop

2016-03-13 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 13 Mar 2016 14:00:00 +0100, Angel Vicente escribió:

> Dirán ustedes, y con toda la razón, que solo publico cuando tengo algún
> problema, pero sepan que leo los correos todos los días.

Los normal es preguntar cuando se tienen problemas :-)

> Problema: instalación de Debian 8.3 usando netinst con USB en un
> portátil Acer Extensa 5230E, 32 bits, particiones cifradas (menos el
> /boot); ningún problema durante la instalación, dejando aparte el tiempo
> que tomó. Finalmente quedó una partición de Vista, una partición de
> recuperación de Vista, y las particiones de Debian.
> 
> Cuando arranco Debian, llega un momento que se queda detenido; he
> arrancado en failsafe y siempre es en el mismo momento: cuando detecta
> la PCMCIA muestra mensajes de una dirección en estado clean y otra en
> modo exclude, a partir de ahí nada. 

Es raro que un componente como el puerto PCMCIA detenga el inicio del 
sistema, vamos, no se trata de ningún componente básico.

> He visto por internet algunos logs de arranque de portátiles como este
> y parece que a continuación de la PCMCIA viene la wifi, también he
> visto en la wiki de Debian que este ordenador puede dar problemas
> precisamente con la wifi. Particularmente, creo que es un problema con
> el firmware, pero no sé como hacer para cargarlo en el primer arranque
> (que no ha llegado a completarse aún).

Intenta arrancar el sistema sin soporte para PCMCIA pasando al kernel el 
parámetro "nopcmcia" desde el emnú de GRUB, a ver si notas alguna 
diferencia o se queda parado en otro estadio.

> He probado un arranque con Tails 2.2 y sin ningún problema.

(...)

Curioso porque está basado en Debian estable ¿no? Luego debe llevar la 
misma versión del kernel que Jessie.

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón



Re: Scanning on Debian Jessie (kodakaio / sane issue)

2016-03-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 13 March 2016 15:02:45 New Linux wrote:
> However, any GUI (like xsane/simplescan) that I installed either didn't
> recognize the v1.0.23 SANE packages and/or reinstalled the v1.0.24
> packages. In my numerous attempts to get a compatible GUI working with
> the 1.0.23 packages, I ended up having to reinstall my entire operating
> system in order to clean up the mess.

Did you try back-ports?

Lisi



Re: No que no habia mano peluda en Debian.

2016-03-13 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 13 Mar 2016 10:34:18 -0300, Ignacio Martirén escribió:

Corrijo el top-posting.

> El 11 de marzo de 2016, 13:05, Camaleón  escribió:
> 
>> El Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:35:38 +0100, Javier Barroso escribió:
>>
>> > Hola,
>> >
>> > 2016-03-10 8:21 GMT+01:00 Latin :
>> >> Leyendo esta noticia, rapidamente pense en los ultimos cambios que
>> >> hubieron con Systemd, quisiera que esto no fuera cierto. Pero que
>> >> cada quien juzgue!
>> >>
>> >> https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/debian-images-now-available-on-azure/
>> >
>> > Esa es una noticia estupenda, que se pueda instalar Debian en
>> > cualquier entorno debería ser una alegría y no una pega como
>> > sugieres.
>> >
>> > De hecho Debian está por detrás, desgraciadamente. de otras
>> > distribuciones en lo que desarrollo en la nube se refiere.
>>
>> Comparto la idea, creo que es positivo que quien trabaje con Azure
>> tenga la opción de instalar Debian de manera sencilla. Si quieres
>> vencer al Balrog hay que adentrarse en las entrañas de Minas Moria.

(...)

> Buscando alguna las lógicas, desde Wikipedia se aclara sobre Microsoft
> Azure:
> "Privacidad
>  Microsoft permite que el gobierno de los Estados Unidos tenga acceso a
>  los
> datos almacenados incluso si el cliente no fuera estadounidense y los
> datos residen fuera de Estados Unidos, de acuerdo a la Ley USA PATRIOT
> 11"
> 
>   Sabido es que las brujas no existen ...

Tu crítica se dirige entonces contra el servicio Azure, no contra el 
hecho de que haya imágenes prediseñadas de Debian para hacer uso de
esta nube privada de Microsoft.

Diría más bien que lo que te preocupa son las política de privacidad 
de los datos de la que hacen gala empresas estadounidenses, vamos, que
AWS o Google Could deben estar en la misma tesitura. Es el precio que 
hay que pagar para trabajar con los líderes en su campo :-(

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón



Re: Problema arrancando Debian 8.3 en laptop

2016-03-13 Thread Angel Vicente
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El Sun, 13 Mar 2016 09:49:13 -0500
"listascor...@msjs.co"  escribió:
> El 13/03/16 a las 08:00, Angel Vicente escribió:
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> > Hola a todos.
> >
> > Dirán ustedes, y con toda la razón, que solo publico cuando tengo
> > algún problema, pero sepan que leo los correos todos los días.
> >
> > Problema: instalación de Debian 8.3 usando netinst con USB en un
> > portátil Acer Extensa 5230E, 32 bits, particiones cifradas (menos
> > el /boot); ningún problema durante la instalación, dejando aparte el
> > tiempo que tomó. Finalmente quedó una partición de Vista, una
> > partición de recuperación de Vista, y las particiones de Debian.
> >
> > Cuando arranco Debian, llega un momento que se queda detenido; he
> > arrancado en failsafe y siempre es en el mismo momento: cuando
> > detecta la PCMCIA muestra mensajes de una dirección en estado clean
> > y otra en modo exclude, a partir de ahí nada. He visto por internet
> > algunos logs de arranque de portátiles como este y parece que a
> > continuación de la PCMCIA viene la wifi, también he visto en la
> > wiki de Debian que este ordenador puede dar problemas precisamente
> > con la wifi. Particularmente, creo que es un problema con el
> > firmware, pero no sé como hacer para cargarlo en el primer arranque
> > (que no ha llegado a completarse aún).  
> 
> Tal ves necesites algún parámetro del núcleo para entrar, revisa esto:
> 
> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt

Me acaba de confirmar el propietario que arrancando con Vista se
enciende el testigo luminoso del wifi, pero con Debian no. Yo creo que
es firmware, pero ¿cómo desactivarlo en el arranque?, echare un vistazo
a los parámetros del arranque.


> 
> Saludos;
> >
> > He probado un arranque con Tails 2.2 y sin ningún problema.
> >
> > Otro problema que tengo, que no tiene que ver con Debian, es que
> > hasta el próximo viernes no tengo acceso físico al ordenador, es
> > decir que las pruebas las tengo que trasladar al propietario por
> > mail o llamada telefónica.
> >
> > Bueno, pues muchas gracias por leerme, vaya testamento que he
> > escrito. Me gustaría tener algún feedback de quien instalado Debian
> > en este hardware.
> >
> > Salu2
> >
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Re: Scanning on Debian Jessie (kodakaio / sane issue)

2016-03-13 Thread New Linux
( Original issue: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/03/msg00241.html )
 
Unfortunately I was not able to resolve this problem. After a week
of troubleshooting, I've settled on some workarounds, which I'm
posting below.



Giving the limited information I've been able to find, I believe this is
a problem specific to using a Kodak All-In-One (kodakaio) scanner with
sane on Debian Jessie.



As mentioned in my first post, I am able to scan on Ubuntu/Xubuntu/etc
which uses the following packages:

libsane, libsane-common, sane-utils (**All version 1.0.23 on Ubuntu**)



Debian Jessie Stable is currently v1.0.24. I tried installing v1.0.25
from a different Debian repo, but still had the same errors. I then
tried using Debian snapshots to install the Wheezy version (1.0.22).
Unfortunately that version did not have a kodakaio back-end. So version
1.0.23 is the only one that worked for me with kodakaio.



However, any GUI (like xsane/simplescan) that I installed either didn't
recognize the v1.0.23 SANE packages and/or reinstalled the v1.0.24
packages. In my numerous attempts to get a compatible GUI working with
the 1.0.23 packages, I ended up having to reinstall my entire operating
system in order to clean up the mess.



Having spent a week on this, these seem to be the options:

1) Buy a new, non-Kodak, printer (ugh)

2) Scan to an SD card inserted into the kodak (low quality, limited
   functionality)

3) Use a USB/pen-drive version of Ubuntu whenever I need to scan (okay
   for infrequent use)

4) Scan from the command line on Debian Jessie (okay)



If I used the scanner frequently, I'd probably opt for a new scanner.
But since I mostly only need an occasional document scanned, I'm using
the command line option. Anyone interested in that can read below for
instructions.



[Instructions for command line scanning on kodakaio with sane]

1) I first removed the v1.0.24 libsane, libsane-common, and sane-utils
   via Synaptic Package Manager

2) I got v1.0.23 of the sane-backends from:
   https://alioth.debian.org/frs/?group_id=30186

3) Extracted that and then ran the following command in the new
   diretory:

# ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var
# BACKENDS=kodakaio

4) Then, I did NOT use "make install" (that's part of what led to having
   to reinstall my OS). Instead, I used Synaptic to install
   "checkinstall" (it makes package available/uninstallable via
   Synaptic). Once installed, close Synaptic and then run this command:

# checkinstall



Here's how I do an 8.5x11 (US Letter size) scan:

# cd /home/user/Documents  (or wherever you want the scan saved)

# scanimage -d kodakaio --mode gray --resolution 300 -x 215.9 -y 279.40
# > MyDocScan.pgm

(for different sizes, note that x/y are in millimeters)



To see other options (for color/resolution/etc), do this command:
# scanimage --help -d 'kodakaio'



Once scanned, you can then adjust the image with GIMP. For a document,
this is what I do in GIMP:

.. Colors -> Brightness/Contrast -> Contrast to 30

.. Image -> Scale Image -> Then choose either 300 or 72 pixel resolution
(72 is blurry), and set to 8.5x11 inches

.. File -> Export -> Select File Type (Portable Doc Format / PDF) ->
Export



This is not ideal, but it works. Again, another (maybe safer) option is
to use Ubuntu on a pen-drive for infrequent scanning. If anyone finds a
way to get the kodaio working on Debian Jessie's current sane/libsane,
please post a followup. I'd much rather use a GUI like xsane or
simplescan.



Original post:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/03/msg00241.html


Re: Tails -- wheezy based good, jessie based bad

2016-03-13 Thread Adam Wilson
On Sun, 13 Mar 2016 13:02:54 +1100 Andrew McGlashan
 wrote:

> Just reporting that I have a couple of older machines that both work
> well with Tails 1.8.2 -- an old Thinkpad that used to run XP and an
> old Macbook Pro 4,1 (early 2008).
> 
> Both machines fail on Tails 2.x -- the Thinkpad gets further than the
> Macbook Pro.  2.x is based on Jessie.

This is indeed strange, considering the fact that Jessie works fine on
both of these models. Are there any suspect Tails-specific
functionalities which may be the cause?

When you say "fail", what do you mean? Do they both refuse to boot?
Blank screen? Stuck on login? What?



Re: Problema arrancando Debian 8.3 en laptop

2016-03-13 Thread listascor...@msjs.co

El 13/03/16 a las 08:00, Angel Vicente escribió:

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Hola a todos.

Dirán ustedes, y con toda la razón, que solo publico cuando tengo algún
problema, pero sepan que leo los correos todos los días.

Problema: instalación de Debian 8.3 usando netinst con USB en un
portátil Acer Extensa 5230E, 32 bits, particiones cifradas (menos
el /boot); ningún problema durante la instalación, dejando aparte el
tiempo que tomó. Finalmente quedó una partición de Vista, una partición
de recuperación de Vista, y las particiones de Debian.

Cuando arranco Debian, llega un momento que se queda detenido; he
arrancado en failsafe y siempre es en el mismo momento: cuando detecta
la PCMCIA muestra mensajes de una dirección en estado clean y otra en
modo exclude, a partir de ahí nada. He visto por internet algunos logs
de arranque de portátiles como este y parece que a continuación de la
PCMCIA viene la wifi, también he visto en la wiki de Debian que este
ordenador puede dar problemas precisamente con la wifi.
Particularmente, creo que es un problema con el firmware, pero no sé
como hacer para cargarlo en el primer arranque (que no ha llegado a
completarse aún).


Tal ves necesites algún parámetro del núcleo para entrar, revisa esto:

https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt

Saludos;


He probado un arranque con Tails 2.2 y sin ningún problema.

Otro problema que tengo, que no tiene que ver con Debian, es que hasta
el próximo viernes no tengo acceso físico al ordenador, es decir que
las pruebas las tengo que trasladar al propietario por mail o llamada
telefónica.

Bueno, pues muchas gracias por leerme, vaya testamento que he escrito.
Me gustaría tener algún feedback de quien instalado Debian en este
hardware.

Salu2

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Re: No que no habia mano peluda en Debian.

2016-03-13 Thread Ignacio Martirén
Buscando alguna las lógicas, desde Wikipedia se aclara sobre Microsoft
Azure:
"Privacidad
 Microsoft permite que el gobierno de los Estados Unidos tenga acceso a los
datos almacenados incluso si el cliente no fuera estadounidense y los datos
residen fuera de Estados Unidos, de acuerdo a la Ley USA PATRIOT
11"

  Sabido es que las brujas no existen ...

El 11 de marzo de 2016, 13:05, Camaleón  escribió:

> El Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:35:38 +0100, Javier Barroso escribió:
>
> > Hola,
> >
> > 2016-03-10 8:21 GMT+01:00 Latin :
> >> Leyendo esta noticia, rapidamente pense en los ultimos cambios que
> >> hubieron con Systemd, quisiera que esto no fuera cierto. Pero que cada
> >> quien juzgue!
> >>
> >> https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/debian-images-now-available-on-
> >> azure/
> >
> > Esa es una noticia estupenda, que se pueda instalar Debian en cualquier
> > entorno debería ser una alegría y no una pega como sugieres.
> >
> > De hecho Debian está por detrás, desgraciadamente. de otras
> > distribuciones en lo que desarrollo en la nube se refiere.
>
> Comparto la idea, creo que es positivo que quien trabaje con Azure tenga
> la opción de instalar Debian de manera sencilla. Si quieres vencer al
> Balrog hay que adentrarse en las entrañas de Minas Moria.
>
> > Nunca he querido responder sobre systemd, pero me parece mal que se
> > desprecie el trabajo que hay detrás de esa noticia [1]
> >
> > Saludos [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2015/08/msg00227.html
>
> Yo no le veo relación alguna con la problemática de la elección de
> systemd, sinceramente, creo que lo de ésta última es peor, mucho peor que
> esta noticia de Azure. De hecho veo que hay varias distribuciones
> catalogadas como "azure-endorsed" y no todas son versiones de linux
> comerciales (que sería lo esperable) sino que hay versiones comunitarias.
>
> Saludos,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>
>


-- 
*  Ignacio*


Problema arrancando Debian 8.3 en laptop

2016-03-13 Thread Angel Vicente
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Hola a todos.

Dirán ustedes, y con toda la razón, que solo publico cuando tengo algún
problema, pero sepan que leo los correos todos los días.

Problema: instalación de Debian 8.3 usando netinst con USB en un
portátil Acer Extensa 5230E, 32 bits, particiones cifradas (menos
el /boot); ningún problema durante la instalación, dejando aparte el
tiempo que tomó. Finalmente quedó una partición de Vista, una partición
de recuperación de Vista, y las particiones de Debian.

Cuando arranco Debian, llega un momento que se queda detenido; he
arrancado en failsafe y siempre es en el mismo momento: cuando detecta
la PCMCIA muestra mensajes de una dirección en estado clean y otra en
modo exclude, a partir de ahí nada. He visto por internet algunos logs
de arranque de portátiles como este y parece que a continuación de la
PCMCIA viene la wifi, también he visto en la wiki de Debian que este
ordenador puede dar problemas precisamente con la wifi.
Particularmente, creo que es un problema con el firmware, pero no sé
como hacer para cargarlo en el primer arranque (que no ha llegado a
completarse aún).

He probado un arranque con Tails 2.2 y sin ningún problema.

Otro problema que tengo, que no tiene que ver con Debian, es que hasta
el próximo viernes no tengo acceso físico al ordenador, es decir que
las pruebas las tengo que trasladar al propietario por mail o llamada
telefónica.

Bueno, pues muchas gracias por leerme, vaya testamento que he escrito.
Me gustaría tener algún feedback de quien instalado Debian en este
hardware.

Salu2

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Re: Re: Radeon trouble Jessie 8.3. [drm:radeon_pci_probe] *ERROR* with firmware-linux-nonfree installed

2016-03-13 Thread Trond Arild Ydersbond
>Just a hunch but maybe you booted the wrong kernel, or the initrd for
>some reason wasn't regenerated after the firmware was installed?

Exactly right! 
When initrd was updated correctly, everything worked as advertised.
(FYI, this is live-8.3.0 with persistence, booted by legacy grub.)

Trond



Re: Inferior sound quality

2016-03-13 Thread Himanshu Shekhar
After making some random hits, I finally landed on Clementine. It is one of
the best music players I've experienced so far and it gives me perfect feel
of the beats after little change in settings.
Thanks for support!


Regards
Himanshu Shekhar

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Johann Spies 
wrote:

> Banshee has got an equaliser with a few useful presets. I do not have
> access to Windows, but I found that using different presets or adjusting
> the equaliser makes a marked difference in sound quality.
>
> Johann
>
>
> --
> Because experiencing your loyal love is better than life itself,
> my lips will praise you.  (Psalm 63:3)
>


Re: iceweasel now firefox-esr?

2016-03-13 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sun, 2016-03-13 at 19:53 +1000, Weaver wrote:
> There's much more than a symlink involved.
> The installation happened on two machines: on the laptop, it failed
> to 
> find the main bookmark menu, and as that was the first update, that
> went 
> west. I backed up the bookmarks file on the PC, but it found that.
> 
> Regarding symlinks (multiple), there's nothing to link www-browser,
> or 
> dochelp, and probably others. I'm still checking. But it definitely 
> doesn't like Liferea, either, even after reinstalling RSS links.
> Cheers!

There was a NEWS entry, so it should have been picked up by apt-
listchanges, but maybe that entry should have been in the iceweasel
package instead I'm not sure.

Anyway, file bugs, or help writing the release notes so others doesn't
get bitten by the same things.

Changes like these are part of the joy of using unstable :)

-- 
Cheers,
Sven Arvidsson
http://www.whiz.se
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Re: iceweasel now firefox-esr?

2016-03-13 Thread Weaver

On 2016-03-12 17:44, Sven Arvidsson wrote:

On Sat, 2016-03-12 at 00:37 -0500, Dale Harris wrote:

Huh, why is iceweasel installing firefox-esr now and not even putting
in a sym. link from iceweasel to firefox?


Iceweasel is no more, read the changelog. 


Aside from an advisory a read in the general news a week prior, with no 
schedule attached, there was no notification. The update itself, listed 
'Iceweasel'.


If you think it should install a symlink, file a bug.


There's much more than a symlink involved.
The installation happened on two machines: on the laptop, it failed to 
find the main bookmark menu, and as that was the first update, that went 
west. I backed up the bookmarks file on the PC, but it found that.


Regarding symlinks (multiple), there's nothing to link www-browser, or 
dochelp, and probably others. I'm still checking. But it definitely 
doesn't like Liferea, either, even after reinstalling RSS links.

Cheers!

Weaver
--
"It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its  
government."

 -- Thomas Paine

Registered Linux User: 554515



Re: Need help salvaging what I can from major disaster

2016-03-13 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Kynn Jones a écrit :
> 
> It turns out that I backed up the hard disk (HD) to the external drive
> (XD) twice.  The first backup went well, as far as I can tell.  I
> spot-checked individual files, etc.  Everything looked normal.
> 
> This first backup would have sufficed, but after I had done it I came
> across the recommendation that a disk of that size (2TB) should be
> formatted for ext4, whereas I had originally formatted it for ext2.  I

Ext2 can handle 2 TB just fine.

> reformatted the disk for ext4 (fdisk + mkfs.ext4), and then repeated
> the backup.  This backup procedure was in the form of a shell script,
> that I had tested repeatedly.  I just re-ran it.  My memory is fuzzy
> on the subsequent details.  Since everything had gone so well up to
> that point, I probably did not check everything as obsessively as I
> had up to that point, but something must have gone very wrong.

Before reading your next post, I also thought that the backup disk was
not properly mounted after being reformatted. There should be some form
of size limit or quota on /media to warn against this kind of common
mistake.

> At any rate, at the moment, my only hopes are that
> 
>   1. something may be recoverable from the first backup in XD;
>   2. something may be recoverable from HD.
> 
> The second of these is (I think) less likely, because I changed the
> partition scheme for HD, going from a single partition, to separate
> partitions for /, /var, /tmp, and swap.  In contrast, XD has always
> consisted of a single partition.

Yes, but not for this reason. Creating partitions does very little
modification to a disk.
IMO there are two better reasons :
- There were much fewer overwrites to the XD (only filesystem metadata)
than the HD (complete system installation).
- Files on the XD were written in sequence and not modified, meaning
that they are less fragmented and easier to recover.

> Now I'm looking for some data recovery tool (preferably from Debian)
> that either is part of some bootable media, or that I can use from a
> USB stick after first booting from a Debian Live CD.

I would have suggested photorec but you already found out.




Re: Does anyone know how to configure a Brother MFC-J5720DW with cups?

2016-03-13 Thread jdd

Le 13/03/2016 05:34, David Wright a écrit :


Well, let's assume that most people buy their equipment rather than
being given it for free.


I also bought one for $25 (the two of them had already 200.000 copies 
done :-) - but it's an obsolete machine now


of course it was trash bin machines, most companies do not keep machines 
for more than 5-7 years and you can have them second hand; but looks 
like french second hand is much cheaper than us ones.


but it was only an example


I can see a refurbished one on the web for $340 (if that's the right
model) which is far more than a new AiO.


much too expensive

I found at first glance:

http://www.inmac-wstore.com/produits/p2622357/HP-LaserJet-Pro-400-M401d---imprimante---monochrome---laser.htm

I sure one can find some cheaper

but I didn't said you have to change your Brother printer. I use daily 
Brother printers and I'm very glad about them


here the list of ps linux compatibles brother printers

http://www.openprinting.org/driver/Postscript-Brother/

jdd