(deb-cat) cups-browsed en catala

[Narcis Garcia]

Amb Ubuntu arrossegava aquest problema des de fa anys, i ara me'l trobo
a Debian:

A les instal·lacions en català, quan el M.Firefox mostra
http://localhost:631/ la interfície es veu en anglès, facis el què
facis. En canvi a les castellanes el web de CUPS es mostra en castellà.

Amb Debian no em trobava amb aquest problema (via Iceweasel), fins ara
que s'ha canviat a M.Firefox en què passa el mateix: si has instal·lat
en català (fas servir l'escriptori en català), el web local de CUPS es
mostra en anglès.

Algú sap l'origen del problema i/o la solució?

Gràcies.

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Re: ssh again

[Lars Noodén]

On 06/15/2016 02:54 AM, emetib wrote:
[snip]
> dan has a good point about having your own nameserver.  yet with only
> three computers in your home network it's not necessarily needed.
> 
> wait i did that before.
> 
> they are easy to set up and
[snip]

Even easier is dnsmasq.  It has both DHCP and some DNS.  It is very easy
to set up and very useful for small and, probably medium, networks.  It
will allow hosts on the LAN to get specific names if the hosts identify
themselves with the same MAC address each time.  Many routers have it
built-in like openwrt, lede, and dd-wrt

For the remote routers, it's still a matter of either choosing a dynamic
DNS service (which is also commonly supported by routers) or else taking
advantage of the one static IP and having the others phone home in some
way, shape, or form.

Regards,
Lars

Re: network managet and 10.42.0.1/24

[Rodary Jacques]

I had (and still partly have) the same questions. I know where to find the 
answers, but didn't dare 
to use them. 
--First "nmcli -p connection show --active" will show all your connections. Or 
me the access 
point has name (not id) "Hotspot" (I don't know if the name depends on the 
device and driver).
--Then "nmcli -p connection show --active Hotspot" gives all the details, 
including 802-11-
wireless.ssid (the hostname), 802-11-wireless.mode ap (access-point I 
guess),IP4.ADRESSE[1] 
(ip = 10.42.0.1/24, gw = 0.0.0.0), IP6.ADRESSE[1] (ip = 
fe80::7e5c:f8ff:fe8e:9473/64, gw = ::) 
and many other infos. 
--What I didn't dare to do was to try "nmcli connection edit (or modify) 
Hotspot". 
--What I did was to modify my DNS setup. In my master zone I added 10.42.0.1 as 
ip-address 
for my server (which now has 3 addresses, one for the outside, from my ISP, one 
not routable for 
my local network 192.168.xxx.1, and 10.42.0.1, not routable also). In the zone 
file I added also 
fixed addresses 10.42.0.xxx for some devices (e.g. a printer which has two 
addresses 
192.168.10.6 and 10.42.0.6; this allows wifi clients to use this printer. I  
also added a reverse 
zone 10.42.0.zone.
I can't remember how I managed to exclude the fixed addresses from dhcpd range 
to avoid 
conflicts but it works. Hope this will help.
Sorry for my English.
Jacques

Need help setting up debian dual boot on Macbook Pro (with El Capitan)

[Paul Condon]

The Macbook Pro is described as ‘Early 2015’, which is 64bit.
q1: Should I tray to use testing or jessie?
q2: I have used netinst on some previous debian installs on different hardware, 
but Macbook Pro
doesn’t have a CD drive. How do I make the Macbook boot from a .iso file on USB 
thumb drive or
what steps to perform? What search terms should I use?

Of course answers to above questions won’t be enough, but I hope they will get 
me started.
Either way I expect to be doing a lot of reading ;-)

Paul Condon
pecond...@gmail.com

Re: usuario debian

[ziprasidone146939...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 08:08:51 PM Marcelo Giordano wrote:
> Hola amigos. Tengo una máquina que instalé debian y olvidé mi usuario y
> contraseña. ¿Cómo puedo averiguarlo?
> Muchas gracias

Hola

Con acceso root, muy simple:

# cat /etc/passwd

Ahi tienes una lista de los usuarios del sistema.

Y para reestablecer la clave:

# passwd 'usuario' (etc...)

Para borrar la clave de root, leí en algun momento (y creo haberlo hecho 
también) de iniciar con un live, montar la particion del sistema raíz y quitar 
la x que esta entre los dos puntos; en el fichero /etc/passwd:

root:x:0:0::/root:/bin/bash

Y quedaría:

root::0:0::/root:/bin/bash (notese que no esta la 'x')

Luego iniciar el sistema y al momento de escribir la clave, solo presionar 
'Enter'.

Saludos

Re: ssh again

[emetib]

On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 5:00:09 PM UTC-5, Dan Purgert wrote:
> Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Tuesday 14 June 2016 18:08:45 Brian wrote:
> >> With avahi-daemon installed on both machines
> >>
> >>   ssh hostname.local
> >>
> >> should just work. No messing with config files or anything like that.
> >>
> >> /etc/hosts is fine if you are more comfortable with it but an IP address
> >> changing can make it a pain on the local LAN.
> >
> > Works a dream!!  Thank you, Brian.  That was a remarkably easy lesson!  I 
> > might set a hosts file up as I was shown by emetib.  It doesn't hurt
> > to know both, and I might some time want to ssh into a machine that
> > hasn't got avahi-daemon installed. 
> >
> > But I can see that changing IPs around could be a pain - I have several 
> > machines that have two network cards for one reason or another, and I
> > have assigned different IPs to different cards in the router.
> 
> This is a little more "involved" than /etc/hosts or ahavi-daemon, but
> you might consider isc-dhcp-server and bind9 on a box you designate as
> "your server" (I have it on a spare desktop sitting in the corner).
> 
> That way,
> 
>  - you don't have to mess with /etc/hosts as things change (e.g. got a
>new computer)
>  - you don't have to worry about "oh, that one doesn't have
>ahavi-daemon"
>  - you can use hostnames with networked device, including those things
>that may not have hostfiles or a decent bonjour client (phones,
>tablets, TVs, etc.)
>  - Other stuff I'm forgetting :)
>  - When you replace your router (or get a forced 'upgrade' from your
>ISP), you don't have to deal with "fixing things" beyond the router
>itself.
> 
> -- 
> |_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947
> |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert
> |O|O|O|

dan has a good point about having your own nameserver.  yet with only three 
computers in your home network it's not necessarily needed.  

wait i did that before.

they are easy to set up and if you do have a POS sitting around getting dusty 
then it's something to play with.  you could do an ntp-server on it also for 
your private network.

or just use a little used machine that is already on the network, or the most 
powerful one, it's up to you.

both are easy to set up and you don't need to open up ports on your firewall 
since they are getting response packets. and it helps with the knowledge curve 
when you start to play with the dhcp and/or static addresses.  maybe plug a 
wireless card into a pci slot and make your own wireless network.

take care
em

usuario debian

[Marcelo Giordano]

Hola amigos. Tengo una máquina que instalé debian y olvidé mi usuario y 
contraseña. ¿Cómo puedo averiguarlo?

Muchas gracias

Re: Compteur de temps d'utilisation

[Mic Grentz]

Le lundi 13 juin 2016, 10:11:27 CEST Frédéric MASSOT a écrit :
> Le 13/06/2016 à 10:03, Frédéric MASSOT a écrit :
> > Le 12/06/2016 à 18:44, Mic Grentz a écrit :
> >> Le lundi 6 juin 2016, 19:58:09 CEST Yves Rutschle a écrit :
>  Un script qui vérifie toute les minutes l'heure d'utilisation de la
>  souris
>  ou du clavier ?
> >>> 
> >>> Si je trouvais rien qui ne le fasse déjà (c'est quand même
> >>> surprenant), je partirais sur 'w'.
> >> 
> >> Et bien je n'ai rien trouvé de tel... Sur le Google Play, on trouve
> >> Quality
> >> Time qui renseigne très bien sur le nombre d'heures et quelles sont les
> >> appli utilisées. Je cherche quelque chose de similaire en bien plus
> >> simple.> 
> > Il y a aussi regarder du coté des paquets sac et acct.
> 
> Deux phrases en une, pas facile le lundi matin, la bonne phrase est :
> "Tu peux aussi regarder du coté des paquets sac et acct.".

Au niveau des commandes, ça passe. Mais ce n'est pas vraiment ce que je 
recherche.

À force de chercher, je me rends compte (en simplifiant) que je veux savoir la 
même chose qu'on écran de veille (depuis combien de temps le poste n'a-t-il 
pas été sollicité (clavier/souris) ?

Cette information est-elle dans /proc ? Comment font les écrans de veille de 
Kde et consorts ?

-- 
Mic

linux-image-4.6 não compila nvidia-legacy-304xx-kernel-dkms

[Gunther Furtado]

Olá,

AViso aos navegantes: a última atualização do kernel não foi capaz de
compilar o módulo nvidia-legacy-304xx-kernel-dkms.

Att.,
-- 

"Mas, afinal,
Só as criaturas que nunca escreveram
Cartas de amor
É que são
Ridículas." Fernando Pessoa

Gunther Furtado
Curitiba - Paraná - Brasil
gunfurt...@gmail.com
skype:gunfurtado

Re: erreur pour créer un user avec mariadb

[Michel Memeteau - EKIMIA]

2016-06-14 17:16 GMT+02:00 Bernard Schoenacker 
:

>
> mysql -u root


Plutot
mysql -u root -p

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Re: ssh again

[Dan Purgert]

Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 June 2016 18:08:45 Brian wrote:
>> With avahi-daemon installed on both machines
>>
>>   ssh hostname.local
>>
>> should just work. No messing with config files or anything like that.
>>
>> /etc/hosts is fine if you are more comfortable with it but an IP address
>> changing can make it a pain on the local LAN.
>
> Works a dream!!  Thank you, Brian.  That was a remarkably easy lesson!  I 
> might set a hosts file up as I was shown by emetib.  It doesn't hurt
> to know both, and I might some time want to ssh into a machine that
> hasn't got avahi-daemon installed. 
>
> But I can see that changing IPs around could be a pain - I have several 
> machines that have two network cards for one reason or another, and I
> have assigned different IPs to different cards in the router.

This is a little more "involved" than /etc/hosts or ahavi-daemon, but
you might consider isc-dhcp-server and bind9 on a box you designate as
"your server" (I have it on a spare desktop sitting in the corner).

That way,

 - you don't have to mess with /etc/hosts as things change (e.g. got a
   new computer)
 - you don't have to worry about "oh, that one doesn't have
   ahavi-daemon"
 - you can use hostnames with networked device, including those things
   that may not have hostfiles or a decent bonjour client (phones,
   tablets, TVs, etc.)
 - Other stuff I'm forgetting :)
 - When you replace your router (or get a forced 'upgrade' from your
   ISP), you don't have to deal with "fixing things" beyond the router
   itself.

-- 
|_|O|_| Registered Linux user #585947
|_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert
|O|O|O| 

Re: KDE & removing items from the panel

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 14/06/16 18:17, Hans wrote:
> Did you unlock the widgets?
> 
> Hans
> 
They've never been locked, but locking and un-locking did not improve
the situation.

> On Tuesday 14 June 2016 18:10:48 Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
>> I've recently noticed that the right-click menu no longer offers an
>> option to remove the clicked-upon icon from the panel. Anyone any
>> suggestions for removing icons (not the application).
>>
>> I'm running up-to-date Debian 8.5 (64 bit).
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Peter HB
> 
> 




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Re: Dual boot win10+debian8

[real bas]

Bom, se você não apagou a partição do UEFI, ele deve ser a sda1, quando
faço fdisk -l ele lista todas minhas partições:

/dev/sda1   2048   1026047   1024000   500M EFI System
/dev/sda21026048   1107967 8192040M unknown
/dev/sda31107968   1370111262144   128M Microsoft reserved
/dev/sda41370112   2906111   1536000   750M Windows recovery environment
/dev/sda52906112 488155135 485249024 231.4G Microsoft basic data
/dev/sda6  488155136 858507263 370352128 176.6G Microsoft basic data
/dev/sda7  960909312 976771119  15861808   7.6G Windows recovery environment
/dev/sda8  858507264 862412799   3905536   1.9G Linux swap
/dev/sda9  862412800 912021503  49608704  23.7G Linux filesystem
/dev/sda10 912021504 960909311  48887808  23.3G Linux filesystem

Por default, a primeira partição é o do UEFI e tem 500 MB, as outras que
não sejam de backup você pode mexer sem problema.

Tente rever o modo de instalação que você fez antes de levar pra alguem
instalar, pq esse problema é bem simples.
Tente novamente a instalação pelo modo UEFI, debian e ubuntu ja dao
suporte, vou deixar um breve tutorial do que eu fiz pra instalar:
1) desabilitar o secure boot;
2) baixar iso correta do debian/ubuntu (CD/DVD-1)
3) antes de comecar a instalação, checar se ta sendo inicializado com
legacy ou uefi, entrar pelo modo texto tente pelo ctrl+f1 ou ctrl+f2,
ctrl+f3 e ctrl+f7 retorna a tela de instalação:
3.1) [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "EFI boot on HDD" || echo "Legacy
boot on HDD"
3.2) deve retornar "EFI boot on HDD"
4) prosseguir normalmente a instalação (não esquecer de separar as
partições)
5) Se aparecer a tela de instalação do grub, escolha a partição EFI System
(fiz a instalação do meu no ano passado e nao pediu isso, foi tudo
automatico)
6) terminar a instalação



Em 14 de junho de 2016 16:21, Manoel Pedro de Araújo 
escreveu:

> Não apaguei nada de partições do windows, está tudo como veio de fabrica.
> A única coisa que fiz foi reduzir a partição C que é GPT.
>
> Pelo jeito vou ter que pagar alguém para fazer esse dual boot!!!
>
> Em 14 de junho de 2016 16:49, real bas  escreveu:
>
>> Cara, quando deu esse erro do dummy grub foi por causa que o colega
>> apagou todas as partições do HD (não sei se foi seu caso), ou seja, tentou
>> fazer a instalação limpa do linux e apagou a partição GPT (a mais
>> importante).
>>
>> Procurando na net tem como recriar essa partição com um cd live, mas eu
>> não tenho 100% de confiança (nem segui, só dei uma lida). Um outro método
>> de fazer recriar essa partição que meu colega fez, foi reinstalar o SO de
>> fábrica (É isso mesmo, ele reinstalou o windows de modo que ele criasse
>> automaticamente todas essas partições), acredito que deva funcionar com um
>> cd do ubuntu.
>>
>> Em 14 de junho de 2016 15:12, Manoel Pedro de Araújo 
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> Real Bas, por gentileza poderia me informar como instalar o grub a
>>> parte? achei um video na youtube no qual ele instala atraves do ubuntu. Vc
>>> saberia outro metodo?
>>>
>>> Em 14 de junho de 2016 15:32, real bas  escreveu:
>>>
 Esse erro do dummy grub aparece por causa que ele não encontra a
 partição GPT do UEFI, ou seja, pra vc precisa manter a partição do GPT pro
 grub poder ser instalado nela (a parte da instalação, acredito que o grub
 encontra a partição automaticamente)

 Em 13 de junho de 2016 15:50, Manoel Pedro de Araújo <
 mpara...@gmail.com> escreveu:

> Olá,
>
> Tentei instalar depois de tudo que mencionei aqui. O processo
> transcorreu normalmente, mas no final não pude instalar o grub:
>
> *Impossivel instalar o grub em dummy *
> *A execução de grub-install dummy falhou*
> *Este é um erro fatal*
>
> Onde foi que eu errei?
>
> Em 13 de junho de 2016 15:59, Rodolfo  escreveu:
>
>> Meio estranho, mas você tem duas dúvidas, para mim, totalmente
>> diferentes, mas vou tentar ajudar.
>>
>> 1. Apos dá boot pelo cd aparece uma mensagem (snd hda-intel
>> :00:03.0: Error request power-well from i915) por um tempo muito
>> curto. Vcs sabme me dizer se essa mensagem é prejudicial aos sistema?
>>
>> Resposta= Só você utilizando você saberá, eu não sou técnico em
>> hardware e nem tive problema parecido, mas acho que você pode tentar e
>> durante a utilização poderá constatar se isso pode ser problema ou não. 
>> Na
>> minha instalação sempre aparece uma mensagem de erro com o bluetooth, mas
>> pode ser somente incompatibilidade do kernel com o meu hardware, visto 
>> ser
>> um hardware mais novo que o kernel, mas tanto o sistema quanto o 
>> bluetooth
>> funcionam normalmente.
>>
>> 2. A pergunta é: O sistema vai iniciar mesmo com flag desligada?
>>
>> Resposta= Nunca tentei, mas aqui vai quase a mesma informação, você
>> já 

Re: erreur pour créer un user avec mariadb

[Daniel Caillibaud]

Le 14/06/16 à 16:25, Bernard Schoenacker  a écrit :
BS> mysql -u phpmyadmin -p

BS> Access denied; you need (at least one of) the CREATE USER privilege(s)
BS> for this operation

Donc le user phpmyadmin n'a pas les droits create user et ne peut pas créer 
d'utilisateur
 
BS> comment sortir de l'impasse ?

Utiliser un user qui dispose de ces droits…
Il a dû être choisi à l'install.

Tu peux regarder si mariadb n'a pas comme mysql un user debian-syst-maint (ou 
équivalent) ayant
ces droits (pour mysql les infos sont dans /etc/mysql/debian.cnf)

-- 
Daniel

C'est très curieux : ce sont toujours les célibataires qui vous donnent 
des conseils pour élever des enfants.
Paul Claudel

Re: Upgrade naar Jessie faalt

[Geert Stappers]

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 06:40:12PM +0200, hegeb...@posteo.de wrote:
> root@desktop-computer:~# dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: grub-pc is beschadigd of niet volledig
> geïnstalleerd
> root@desktop-computer:~#
> 
> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-4-amd64
> /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub:
> Generating grub configuration file ...
> cat: /video.lst: Bestand of map bestaat niet
> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: fout: kan canoniek pad van '' niet achterhalen.
> Geen pad of apparaat gegeven.
> Gebruik:  grub-probe [OPTIE...] [OPTIE...] [PAD|APPARAAT]
> Typ 'grub-probe --help' of 'grub-probe --usage' voor meer informatie.
   ...
> Generating grub configuration file ...
> cat: /video.lst: Bestand of map bestaat niet
> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: fout: kan canoniek pad van '' niet achterhalen.
> Geen pad of apparaat gegeven.
> Gebruik:  grub-probe [OPTIE...] [OPTIE...] [PAD|APPARAAT]
> Typ 'grub-probe --help' of 'grub-probe --usage' voor meer informatie.
> dpkg: fout bij verwerken van pakket grub-pc (--configure):
>  subproces post-installation script geïnstalleerd  gaf een
> foutwaarde 64 terug
 
> dpkg: vereistenproblemen verhinderen de configuratie van startupmanager:
>  startupmanager is afhankelijk van grub | grub-pc; maar:
>   Pakket grub is niet geïnstalleerd.
>   Pakket grub-pc is nog niet geconfigureerd.
> 
> dpkg: fout bij verwerken van pakket startupmanager (--configure):


  echo -e '#!/bin/sh\nexit 0' > /var/lib/dpkg/info/grub-pc.postinst
  apt-get --reinstall install grub-pc


Groeten
Geert Stappers
-- 
Leven en laten leven

Re: Dual boot win10+debian8

[Manoel Pedro de Araújo]

Não apaguei nada de partições do windows, está tudo como veio de fabrica. A
única coisa que fiz foi reduzir a partição C que é GPT.

Pelo jeito vou ter que pagar alguém para fazer esse dual boot!!!

Em 14 de junho de 2016 16:49, real bas  escreveu:

> Cara, quando deu esse erro do dummy grub foi por causa que o colega apagou
> todas as partições do HD (não sei se foi seu caso), ou seja, tentou fazer a
> instalação limpa do linux e apagou a partição GPT (a mais importante).
>
> Procurando na net tem como recriar essa partição com um cd live, mas eu
> não tenho 100% de confiança (nem segui, só dei uma lida). Um outro método
> de fazer recriar essa partição que meu colega fez, foi reinstalar o SO de
> fábrica (É isso mesmo, ele reinstalou o windows de modo que ele criasse
> automaticamente todas essas partições), acredito que deva funcionar com um
> cd do ubuntu.
>
> Em 14 de junho de 2016 15:12, Manoel Pedro de Araújo 
> escreveu:
>
>> Real Bas, por gentileza poderia me informar como instalar o grub a parte?
>> achei um video na youtube no qual ele instala atraves do ubuntu. Vc saberia
>> outro metodo?
>>
>> Em 14 de junho de 2016 15:32, real bas  escreveu:
>>
>>> Esse erro do dummy grub aparece por causa que ele não encontra a
>>> partição GPT do UEFI, ou seja, pra vc precisa manter a partição do GPT pro
>>> grub poder ser instalado nela (a parte da instalação, acredito que o grub
>>> encontra a partição automaticamente)
>>>
>>> Em 13 de junho de 2016 15:50, Manoel Pedro de Araújo >> > escreveu:
>>>
 Olá,

 Tentei instalar depois de tudo que mencionei aqui. O processo
 transcorreu normalmente, mas no final não pude instalar o grub:

 *Impossivel instalar o grub em dummy *
 *A execução de grub-install dummy falhou*
 *Este é um erro fatal*

 Onde foi que eu errei?

 Em 13 de junho de 2016 15:59, Rodolfo  escreveu:

> Meio estranho, mas você tem duas dúvidas, para mim, totalmente
> diferentes, mas vou tentar ajudar.
>
> 1. Apos dá boot pelo cd aparece uma mensagem (snd hda-intel
> :00:03.0: Error request power-well from i915) por um tempo muito
> curto. Vcs sabme me dizer se essa mensagem é prejudicial aos sistema?
>
> Resposta= Só você utilizando você saberá, eu não sou técnico em
> hardware e nem tive problema parecido, mas acho que você pode tentar e
> durante a utilização poderá constatar se isso pode ser problema ou não. Na
> minha instalação sempre aparece uma mensagem de erro com o bluetooth, mas
> pode ser somente incompatibilidade do kernel com o meu hardware, visto ser
> um hardware mais novo que o kernel, mas tanto o sistema quanto o bluetooth
> funcionam normalmente.
>
> 2. A pergunta é: O sistema vai iniciar mesmo com flag desligada?
>
> Resposta= Nunca tentei, mas aqui vai quase a mesma informação, você já
> tentou ? Teste e descubra, dificilmente você terá problemas no seu 
> hardware
> devido a isso.
>
> Em 13 de junho de 2016 14:52, Manoel Pedro de Araújo <
> mpara...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>> Refazendo uma pergunta anterior:
>>
>> Apos dá boot pelo cd aparece uma mensagem (snd hda-intel
>> :00:03.0: Error request power-well from i915) por um tempo muito
>> curto. Vcs sabme me dizer se essa mensagem é prejudicial aos sistema? 
>> mesmo
>> aparecendo essa mensagem continuei a instalar a até
>> formatação das partições e na opção de flag incializável eu conseguir
>> alterar a opção ligado/desligado.
>>
>> Por causa disso acabei abortando a instalação.
>>
>> A pergunta é: O sistema vai iniciar mesmo com flag desligada?
>>
>> Em 13 de junho de 2016 15:36, Thiago Faria Mendonça > > escreveu:
>>
>>> UEFI: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SU-208HD
>>>
>>> Em 13-06-2016 15:34, Manoel Pedro de Araújo escreveu:
>>>
>>> Quais as opções de boot eu devo colocar,
>>>
>>>  P1:TSSTcorp CDDVDW SU-208HD ou UEFI: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SU-208HD ?
>>>
>>> Em 13 de junho de 2016 15:26, Manoel Pedro de Araújo <
>>> mpara...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>
 No inicio aparceu  error request power-well from i915
  durante a instalação ocorreu tudo nomal, mas não puder mudar a
 opção(ligado/desligado) do  flag inicializavel.
 *então *resolvi abortar a instalarção

 Em 13 de junho de 2016 15:18, Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA,
 Leandro  escreveu:

> 2016-06-13 14:55 GMT-03:00 Manoel Pedro de Araújo <
> mpara...@gmail.com>:
> > Amigos, com o a secrity boot desabilitado, durante a instalação
> do debain8
> > aparece a seguinte mensagem
> > error request power-well from i915. Isso é problema grave?
>
> E 

Re: Dual boot win10+debian8

[real bas]

Cara, quando deu esse erro do dummy grub foi por causa que o colega apagou
todas as partições do HD (não sei se foi seu caso), ou seja, tentou fazer a
instalação limpa do linux e apagou a partição GPT (a mais importante).

Procurando na net tem como recriar essa partição com um cd live, mas eu não
tenho 100% de confiança (nem segui, só dei uma lida). Um outro método de
fazer recriar essa partição que meu colega fez, foi reinstalar o SO de
fábrica (É isso mesmo, ele reinstalou o windows de modo que ele criasse
automaticamente todas essas partições), acredito que deva funcionar com um
cd do ubuntu.

Em 14 de junho de 2016 15:12, Manoel Pedro de Araújo 
escreveu:

> Real Bas, por gentileza poderia me informar como instalar o grub a parte?
> achei um video na youtube no qual ele instala atraves do ubuntu. Vc saberia
> outro metodo?
>
> Em 14 de junho de 2016 15:32, real bas  escreveu:
>
>> Esse erro do dummy grub aparece por causa que ele não encontra a partição
>> GPT do UEFI, ou seja, pra vc precisa manter a partição do GPT pro grub
>> poder ser instalado nela (a parte da instalação, acredito que o grub
>> encontra a partição automaticamente)
>>
>> Em 13 de junho de 2016 15:50, Manoel Pedro de Araújo 
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> Olá,
>>>
>>> Tentei instalar depois de tudo que mencionei aqui. O processo
>>> transcorreu normalmente, mas no final não pude instalar o grub:
>>>
>>> *Impossivel instalar o grub em dummy *
>>> *A execução de grub-install dummy falhou*
>>> *Este é um erro fatal*
>>>
>>> Onde foi que eu errei?
>>>
>>> Em 13 de junho de 2016 15:59, Rodolfo  escreveu:
>>>
 Meio estranho, mas você tem duas dúvidas, para mim, totalmente
 diferentes, mas vou tentar ajudar.

 1. Apos dá boot pelo cd aparece uma mensagem (snd hda-intel
 :00:03.0: Error request power-well from i915) por um tempo muito
 curto. Vcs sabme me dizer se essa mensagem é prejudicial aos sistema?

 Resposta= Só você utilizando você saberá, eu não sou técnico em
 hardware e nem tive problema parecido, mas acho que você pode tentar e
 durante a utilização poderá constatar se isso pode ser problema ou não. Na
 minha instalação sempre aparece uma mensagem de erro com o bluetooth, mas
 pode ser somente incompatibilidade do kernel com o meu hardware, visto ser
 um hardware mais novo que o kernel, mas tanto o sistema quanto o bluetooth
 funcionam normalmente.

 2. A pergunta é: O sistema vai iniciar mesmo com flag desligada?

 Resposta= Nunca tentei, mas aqui vai quase a mesma informação, você já
 tentou ? Teste e descubra, dificilmente você terá problemas no seu hardware
 devido a isso.

 Em 13 de junho de 2016 14:52, Manoel Pedro de Araújo <
 mpara...@gmail.com> escreveu:

> Refazendo uma pergunta anterior:
>
> Apos dá boot pelo cd aparece uma mensagem (snd hda-intel
> :00:03.0: Error request power-well from i915) por um tempo muito
> curto. Vcs sabme me dizer se essa mensagem é prejudicial aos sistema? 
> mesmo
> aparecendo essa mensagem continuei a instalar a até
> formatação das partições e na opção de flag incializável eu conseguir
> alterar a opção ligado/desligado.
>
> Por causa disso acabei abortando a instalação.
>
> A pergunta é: O sistema vai iniciar mesmo com flag desligada?
>
> Em 13 de junho de 2016 15:36, Thiago Faria Mendonça 
> escreveu:
>
>> UEFI: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SU-208HD
>>
>> Em 13-06-2016 15:34, Manoel Pedro de Araújo escreveu:
>>
>> Quais as opções de boot eu devo colocar,
>>
>>  P1:TSSTcorp CDDVDW SU-208HD ou UEFI: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SU-208HD ?
>>
>> Em 13 de junho de 2016 15:26, Manoel Pedro de Araújo <
>> mpara...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>>
>>> No inicio aparceu  error request power-well from i915
>>>  durante a instalação ocorreu tudo nomal, mas não puder mudar a
>>> opção(ligado/desligado) do  flag inicializavel.
>>> *então *resolvi abortar a instalarção
>>>
>>> Em 13 de junho de 2016 15:18, Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA, Leandro
>>>  escreveu:
>>>
 2016-06-13 14:55 GMT-03:00 Manoel Pedro de Araújo <
 mpara...@gmail.com>:
 > Amigos, com o a secrity boot desabilitado, durante a instalação
 do debain8
 > aparece a seguinte mensagem
 > error request power-well from i915. Isso é problema grave?

 E porque seria?  O resto funcionou?


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Re: how to make bootable live wheezy USB that doesn't use isohybrid

[David Christensen]

On 06/14/2016 08:27 AM, Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote:

...If I create a USB dongle with

# cd /tmp
# wget 
http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/7.11.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso
# cp debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso /def/sdf


Are you cutting and pasting console sessions verbatim?  /def/sdf looks 
like a typo...



As other posters have mentioned, you might have to mess with CMOS 
settings.



I've also found that not all USB ports are created equal.


So, N CMOS settings and M ports creates N * M combinations to test.


Rather than using a Live distribution or an installer image on USB 
flash, I've found that:


1.  I can install Debian onto a USB flash drive.

2.  I can place a Debian system drive image onto a USB flash drive.


David

Re: ssh again

[David Christensen]

On 06/14/2016 07:32 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

... I am now trying to copy files aroind.
... scp /path/to/file username@a:/path/to/destination
.. host names,
... ssh into two computers that I administer 11 miles away,
...  their ISP uses dynamic


I use scp if I'm copying files for the first time -- e.g. nothing on the 
destination end.  After that, I use rsync.



It's easiest if there is one read-write copy of the files/ directories/ 
file system (source, master) and all the other copies are read-only 
(backup, slave, snapshots).  Keeping N read-write file systems 
synchronized is  a non-trivial problem.



Many programs (including rsync) depend upon the clock being set 
correctly.  I strive to install an ntp service on every machine I use.



There are a great number of choices and technologies available for 
connecting computers into networks.



While you can build your own LAN infrastructure machines from scratch 
using Debian (DHCP, DNS, firewall, NAT, etc.), it can be better, faster, 
cheaper to use a good FOSS firewall/ router appliance distribution:


http://www.ipcop.org/

https://www.pfsense.org/

https://openwrt.org/


When you're ready to connect multiple LAN's over the Internet (OpenVPN), 
you will need a DDNS server.  Again, you can roll your own or you can 
find a productized solution (at least one other poster suggested some 
DDNS providers).  You will need to coordinate your choice of DDNS 
service with your choice of router.  It's nice to have your own domain name.



David

Re: ssh again

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 14 June 2016 18:08:45 Brian wrote:
> On Tue 14 Jun 2016 at 16:06:17 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Tuesday 14 June 2016 15:53:17 Mark Fletcher wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 11:48 PM Lisi Reisz  
wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday 14 June 2016 15:40:22 Reco wrote:
> > > > >   Hi.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 03:32:19PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hostnames, here I come.
> > > >
> > > > For hostnames within your own network, consider installing avahi.
> >
> > Thanks, Mark.  I have.  After the earlier hints.  I just haven't got it
> > working yet. :-(  So I shall look at both it and having hostnames files
> > to see which I can actually succeed with.
>
> With avahi-daemon installed on both machines
>
>   ssh hostname.local
>
> should just work. No messing with config files or anything like that.
>
> /etc/hosts is fine if you are more comfortable with it but an IP address
> changing can make it a pain on the local LAN.

Works a dream!!  Thank you, Brian.  That was a remarkably easy lesson!  I 
might set a hosts file up as I was shown by emetib.  It doesn't hurt to know 
both, and I might some time want to ssh into a machine that hasn't got 
avahi-daemon installed.  

But I can see that changing IPs around could be a pain - I have several 
machines that have two network cards for one reason or another, and I have 
assigned different IPs to different cards in the router.

Lisi

Re: Dual boot win10+debian8

[Manoel Pedro de Araújo]

Real Bas, por gentileza poderia me informar como instalar o grub a parte?
achei um video na youtube no qual ele instala atraves do ubuntu. Vc saberia
outro metodo?

Em 14 de junho de 2016 15:32, real bas  escreveu:

> Esse erro do dummy grub aparece por causa que ele não encontra a partição
> GPT do UEFI, ou seja, pra vc precisa manter a partição do GPT pro grub
> poder ser instalado nela (a parte da instalação, acredito que o grub
> encontra a partição automaticamente)
>
> Em 13 de junho de 2016 15:50, Manoel Pedro de Araújo 
> escreveu:
>
>> Olá,
>>
>> Tentei instalar depois de tudo que mencionei aqui. O processo transcorreu
>> normalmente, mas no final não pude instalar o grub:
>>
>> *Impossivel instalar o grub em dummy *
>> *A execução de grub-install dummy falhou*
>> *Este é um erro fatal*
>>
>> Onde foi que eu errei?
>>
>> Em 13 de junho de 2016 15:59, Rodolfo  escreveu:
>>
>>> Meio estranho, mas você tem duas dúvidas, para mim, totalmente
>>> diferentes, mas vou tentar ajudar.
>>>
>>> 1. Apos dá boot pelo cd aparece uma mensagem (snd hda-intel
>>> :00:03.0: Error request power-well from i915) por um tempo muito
>>> curto. Vcs sabme me dizer se essa mensagem é prejudicial aos sistema?
>>>
>>> Resposta= Só você utilizando você saberá, eu não sou técnico em hardware
>>> e nem tive problema parecido, mas acho que você pode tentar e durante a
>>> utilização poderá constatar se isso pode ser problema ou não. Na minha
>>> instalação sempre aparece uma mensagem de erro com o bluetooth, mas pode
>>> ser somente incompatibilidade do kernel com o meu hardware, visto ser um
>>> hardware mais novo que o kernel, mas tanto o sistema quanto o bluetooth
>>> funcionam normalmente.
>>>
>>> 2. A pergunta é: O sistema vai iniciar mesmo com flag desligada?
>>>
>>> Resposta= Nunca tentei, mas aqui vai quase a mesma informação, você já
>>> tentou ? Teste e descubra, dificilmente você terá problemas no seu hardware
>>> devido a isso.
>>>
>>> Em 13 de junho de 2016 14:52, Manoel Pedro de Araújo >> > escreveu:
>>>
 Refazendo uma pergunta anterior:

 Apos dá boot pelo cd aparece uma mensagem (snd hda-intel :00:03.0:
 Error request power-well from i915) por um tempo muito curto. Vcs
 sabme me dizer se essa mensagem é prejudicial aos sistema? mesmo aparecendo
 essa mensagem continuei a instalar a até
 formatação das partições e na opção de flag incializável eu conseguir
 alterar a opção ligado/desligado.

 Por causa disso acabei abortando a instalação.

 A pergunta é: O sistema vai iniciar mesmo com flag desligada?

 Em 13 de junho de 2016 15:36, Thiago Faria Mendonça 
 escreveu:

> UEFI: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SU-208HD
>
> Em 13-06-2016 15:34, Manoel Pedro de Araújo escreveu:
>
> Quais as opções de boot eu devo colocar,
>
>  P1:TSSTcorp CDDVDW SU-208HD ou UEFI: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SU-208HD ?
>
> Em 13 de junho de 2016 15:26, Manoel Pedro de Araújo <
> mpara...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>> No inicio aparceu  error request power-well from i915
>>  durante a instalação ocorreu tudo nomal, mas não puder mudar a
>> opção(ligado/desligado) do  flag inicializavel.
>> *então *resolvi abortar a instalarção
>>
>> Em 13 de junho de 2016 15:18, Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA, Leandro
>>  escreveu:
>>
>>> 2016-06-13 14:55 GMT-03:00 Manoel Pedro de Araújo <
>>> mpara...@gmail.com>:
>>> > Amigos, com o a secrity boot desabilitado, durante a instalação do
>>> debain8
>>> > aparece a seguinte mensagem
>>> > error request power-well from i915. Isso é problema grave?
>>>
>>> E porque seria?  O resto funcionou?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> skype:leandro.gfc.dutra?chat  Yahoo!: ymsgr:sendIM?lgcdutra
>>> +55 (61) 3546 7191 <%2B55%20%2861%29%203546%207191>
>>> gTalk: xmpp:leand...@jabber.org
>>> +55 (61) 9302 2691 <%2B55%20%2861%29%209302%202691>ICQ/AIM:
>>> aim:GoIM?screenname=61287803
>>> BRAZIL GMT−3  MSN: msnim:chat?contact= 
>>> lean...@dutra.fastmail.fm
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Manoel
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Manoel
>
>
>


 --
 Manoel

>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Manoel
>>
>
>


-- 
Manoel

Re: Dual boot win10+debian8

[real bas]

Esse erro do dummy grub aparece por causa que ele não encontra a partição
GPT do UEFI, ou seja, pra vc precisa manter a partição do GPT pro grub
poder ser instalado nela (a parte da instalação, acredito que o grub
encontra a partição automaticamente)

Em 13 de junho de 2016 15:50, Manoel Pedro de Araújo 
escreveu:

> Olá,
>
> Tentei instalar depois de tudo que mencionei aqui. O processo transcorreu
> normalmente, mas no final não pude instalar o grub:
>
> *Impossivel instalar o grub em dummy *
> *A execução de grub-install dummy falhou*
> *Este é um erro fatal*
>
> Onde foi que eu errei?
>
> Em 13 de junho de 2016 15:59, Rodolfo  escreveu:
>
>> Meio estranho, mas você tem duas dúvidas, para mim, totalmente
>> diferentes, mas vou tentar ajudar.
>>
>> 1. Apos dá boot pelo cd aparece uma mensagem (snd hda-intel
>> :00:03.0: Error request power-well from i915) por um tempo muito
>> curto. Vcs sabme me dizer se essa mensagem é prejudicial aos sistema?
>>
>> Resposta= Só você utilizando você saberá, eu não sou técnico em hardware
>> e nem tive problema parecido, mas acho que você pode tentar e durante a
>> utilização poderá constatar se isso pode ser problema ou não. Na minha
>> instalação sempre aparece uma mensagem de erro com o bluetooth, mas pode
>> ser somente incompatibilidade do kernel com o meu hardware, visto ser um
>> hardware mais novo que o kernel, mas tanto o sistema quanto o bluetooth
>> funcionam normalmente.
>>
>> 2. A pergunta é: O sistema vai iniciar mesmo com flag desligada?
>>
>> Resposta= Nunca tentei, mas aqui vai quase a mesma informação, você já
>> tentou ? Teste e descubra, dificilmente você terá problemas no seu hardware
>> devido a isso.
>>
>> Em 13 de junho de 2016 14:52, Manoel Pedro de Araújo 
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> Refazendo uma pergunta anterior:
>>>
>>> Apos dá boot pelo cd aparece uma mensagem (snd hda-intel :00:03.0:
>>> Error request power-well from i915) por um tempo muito curto. Vcs sabme
>>> me dizer se essa mensagem é prejudicial aos sistema? mesmo aparecendo essa
>>> mensagem continuei a instalar a até
>>> formatação das partições e na opção de flag incializável eu conseguir
>>> alterar a opção ligado/desligado.
>>>
>>> Por causa disso acabei abortando a instalação.
>>>
>>> A pergunta é: O sistema vai iniciar mesmo com flag desligada?
>>>
>>> Em 13 de junho de 2016 15:36, Thiago Faria Mendonça 
>>> escreveu:
>>>
 UEFI: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SU-208HD

 Em 13-06-2016 15:34, Manoel Pedro de Araújo escreveu:

 Quais as opções de boot eu devo colocar,

  P1:TSSTcorp CDDVDW SU-208HD ou UEFI: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SU-208HD ?

 Em 13 de junho de 2016 15:26, Manoel Pedro de Araújo <
 mpara...@gmail.com> escreveu:

> No inicio aparceu  error request power-well from i915
>  durante a instalação ocorreu tudo nomal, mas não puder mudar a
> opção(ligado/desligado) do  flag inicializavel.
> *então *resolvi abortar a instalarção
>
> Em 13 de junho de 2016 15:18, Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA, Leandro <
> l...@dutras.org> escreveu:
>
>> 2016-06-13 14:55 GMT-03:00 Manoel Pedro de Araújo <
>> mpara...@gmail.com>:
>> > Amigos, com o a secrity boot desabilitado, durante a instalação do
>> debain8
>> > aparece a seguinte mensagem
>> > error request power-well from i915. Isso é problema grave?
>>
>> E porque seria?  O resto funcionou?
>>
>>
>> --
>> skype:leandro.gfc.dutra?chat  Yahoo!: ymsgr:sendIM?lgcdutra
>> +55 (61) 3546 7191 <%2B55%20%2861%29%203546%207191>
>> gTalk: xmpp:leand...@jabber.org
>> +55 (61) 9302 2691 <%2B55%20%2861%29%209302%202691>ICQ/AIM:
>> aim:GoIM?screenname=61287803
>> BRAZIL GMT−3  MSN: msnim:chat?contact= 
>> lean...@dutra.fastmail.fm
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Manoel
>



 --
 Manoel



>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Manoel
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Manoel
>

Re: Mailing-list configuration

[Bob Holtzman]

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 04:57:05PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 13 June 2016 14:46:42 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> 
> > On Monday 13 June 2016 19:35:54 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > And I am not sure that this tempest in a teapot is all about, the
> > > older kmail that I use and the older TBird that I have unwillingly
> > > used way back up the logbook now, both have a reply-to-list button.
> > >  This is a list and I use that button to start a reply.
> > >
> > > So what is/was the actual perceived problem that started this
> > > bandwitch waster?
> >
> > One of the people on the list considers himself too important to be
> > expected to use a reply-to-list button and deliberately replies to
> > posters.
> >
> > It isn't a bandwidth waster, any more than your long threads are. 
> > Some of us have a lot to learn about headers.
> >
> > Lisi
> 
> And that at times includes me. kmail isn't sending that header, but in 
> the folder menu, under properties there is a checkbox "folder holds 
> mailing list" and if its checked, then the reply button seems to have 
> been converted to a reply-to-list button, so I get the same thing 
> regardless of which button I click on, _in this folder_ only. So I've 
> learned something after all.  The bottom line to this is that I agree re 
> NG, he and his install of mutt seems to be the odd  email agent out, and 
> he should change to a newer, more intelligent email agent.  Same with 
> the Imail user a few msgs up, its time to switch, or file a bug report 
> against it.

Mutt is hardly the odd email client out there. It's been used by a *lot*
of people for a lng time.

> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> -- 
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> Genes Web page 

-- 
Bob Holtzman
A man is a man who will fight with a sword or
conquer Mt. Everest in snow. But the bravest of all
owns a '34 Ford and tries for six thousand in low.

Re: Mailing-list configuration

[Bob Holtzman]

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 06:31:11PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 06/13/2016 04:09 PM, Erwan David wrote:
> >Le 13/06/2016 à 23:08, Doug a écrit :
> >>
> >>On 06/13/2016 02:36 PM, Nicolas George wrote:
> >>>Le sextidi 26 prairial, an CCXXIV, Bob Holtzman a écrit :
> >>>
> >>/snip/
> >>
> >>Just what planet are you writing from, Bob?  I don't recognize the
> >>date at all.
> 
> Bob is across the Marathon Valley, from me, on Mars. He forgot and used
> Martian dating. He grows the BEST ham-bushes, but my Blanket Trees produce
> nice woolly blankets. :) Ric

Nothing better on a winter night than wrapping up in one of Rics' wolly 
blankets while munching on one of my ham bushes' hams and listening to a 
Burl Ives tape. Isn't that right, neighbor?

> 
> 
> -- 
> My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
> "There are two Great Sins in the world...
> ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
> Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
> http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html

-- 
Bob Holtzman
A man is a man who will fight with a sword or
conquer Mt. Everest in snow. But the bravest of all
owns a '34 Ford and tries for six thousand in low.

Re: ssh again

[Joe]

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 19:23:23 +0200
Jörg-Volker Peetz  wrote:

> Lisi Reisz wrote on 06/14/16 16:32:
> 
> > After all this, my main motivation for learning right now was to
> > ssh into two computers that I administer 11 miles away, without
> > having to bother the owners (I would just have to say: leave your
> > computers turned on), and I'm not going to be able to do it, I
> > think, because their ISP uses dynamic IPs. :-(  (I have a static
> > IP.)  
> 
> That's where Dynamic DNS comes to aid, see
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_DNS . Just choose a free DynDNS
> provider, like no-ip, and a web-hostname.
> 

Or for a bit of bash practice, you can do it yourself. A couple of years
ago, I needed to track a dynamic IP for a couple of months, until a
fixed one was organised. I ran this on the client's Linux server with a
cron job once an hour:

wget -qO- http://ipecho.net/plain | /usr/bin/mutt -s "IP report"
j...@jretrading.com

I did actually get a bit creative later, and automated the moving of
the address from the latest email into my workstation's /etc/hosts
file, but I made use of a web server, which you may not have in your own
network, and my IMAP processing script was in php. A semi-automatic
method would be to save the latest email as a text file, and run a bash
script to pick out the address and poke it into the local /etc/hosts.

-- 
Joe

Re: Mailing-list configuration

[Bob Holtzman]

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 09:36:05PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> Le sextidi 26 prairial, an CCXXIV, Bob Holtzman a écrit :
> > I have always found that when using mutt, as we both seem to do, "L"
> > replys to a message and sends that reply to the list only.
> 
> For the last time: this command works only for mailing-lists, not for
> private discussions, and therefore is not acceptable. The same command
> should handle both cases.

The "problem" doesn't exist in private discussions. If it does, you're
doing something *very* wrong.

> 
> The solution that requires zero attention in the common case is better than
> the solution that requires some attention, even a little bit.
> 
> It works with almost all the other mailing-lists I am subscribed to,
> therefore Debian is doing something wrong.

No, Debian isn't the one doing something wrong.

 .snip

-- 
Bob Holtzman
A man is a man who will fight with a sword or
conquer Mt. Everest in snow. But the bravest of all
owns a '34 Ford and tries for six thousand in low.

Re: Fwd: ssh again

[Leon.37428]

On 06/14/2016 01:06 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 03:37:47PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>> Here is a repeat of my earlier failed attempt.
>>
>> peter@Nyx-II:~/Lisi$ scp /home/peter/Pictures/Winter\ Dream\ II.jpg 
>> lisi@192.168.0.2:/home/lisi/Pictures?Winter\ Dream\ II.jpg
>> lisi@192.168.0.2's password:
>> scp: ambiguous target
>> peter@Nyx-II:~/Lisi$
>>
>> This was the method that had worked from .2 to .3.  (Logged into .3 from .2, 
>> copied from .2 to .3 - that's how that picture got there!!)
>>
>> Lisi
>>
>> --  Forwarded Message  --
>>
>
> Watch your slashes :)
>
> scp /ome/peter/Pictures/Winter\ Dream\ II.jpg 
> lisi@192/168.0.2:/home/lisi/Pictures/Winter\ Dream\ II.jpg
>
> to be honest, I'd be tempted to make a copy of the picture as 
> Winterdream2.jpg - that way you don't have to escape 
> spaces with the backslash
>
> HTH,
>
> AndyC
>
With scp if you plan on using the same file-name, you don't need to
specify it on the other end. You can simply go right ahead and just type:

scp /home/whatever/file.jpg remote@hostname:"/home/user/Pictures"


- Leon

Re: ssh again

[Jörg-Volker Peetz]

Lisi Reisz wrote on 06/14/16 16:32:

> After all this, my main motivation for learning right now was to ssh into two 
> computers that I administer 11 miles away, without having to bother the 
> owners (I would just have to say: leave your computers turned on), and I'm 
> not going to be able to do it, I think, because their ISP uses dynamic 
> IPs. :-(  (I have a static IP.)

That's where Dynamic DNS comes to aid, see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_DNS . Just choose a free DynDNS provider,
like no-ip, and a web-hostname.

Regards,
jvp.

Re: KDE & removing items from the panel

[Hans]

Did you unlock the widgets?

Hans

On Tuesday 14 June 2016 18:10:48 Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
> I've recently noticed that the right-click menu no longer offers an
> option to remove the clicked-upon icon from the panel. Anyone any
> suggestions for removing icons (not the application).
> 
> I'm running up-to-date Debian 8.5 (64 bit).
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Peter HB

KDE & removing items from the panel

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

I've recently noticed that the right-click menu no longer offers an
option to remove the clicked-upon icon from the panel. Anyone any
suggestions for removing icons (not the application).

I'm running up-to-date Debian 8.5 (64 bit).

Thanks in advance.

Peter HB

Re: ssh again

[Brian]

On Tue 14 Jun 2016 at 16:06:17 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:

> On Tuesday 14 June 2016 15:53:17 Mark Fletcher wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 11:48 PM Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 14 June 2016 15:40:22 Reco wrote:
> > > >   Hi.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 03:32:19PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > >
> > > Hostnames, here I come.
> > >
> > > For hostnames within your own network, consider installing avahi.
> 
> Thanks, Mark.  I have.  After the earlier hints.  I just haven't got it 
> working yet. :-(  So I shall look at both it and having hostnames files to 
> see which I can actually succeed with.

With avahi-daemon installed on both machines

  ssh hostname.local

should just work. No messing with config files or anything like that.

/etc/hosts is fine if you are more comfortable with it but an IP address
changing can make it a pain on the local LAN.

Re: Fwd: ssh again

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 03:37:47PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> Here is a repeat of my earlier failed attempt.
> 
> peter@Nyx-II:~/Lisi$ scp /home/peter/Pictures/Winter\ Dream\ II.jpg 
> lisi@192.168.0.2:/home/lisi/Pictures?Winter\ Dream\ II.jpg
> lisi@192.168.0.2's password:
> scp: ambiguous target
> peter@Nyx-II:~/Lisi$
> 
> This was the method that had worked from .2 to .3.  (Logged into .3 from .2, 
> copied from .2 to .3 - that's how that picture got there!!)
> 
> Lisi
> 
> --  Forwarded Message  --
> 


Watch your slashes :)

scp /ome/peter/Pictures/Winter\ Dream\ II.jpg 
lisi@192/168.0.2:/home/lisi/Pictures/Winter\ Dream\ II.jpg

to be honest, I'd be tempted to make a copy of the picture as Winterdream2.jpg 
- that way you don't have to escape 
spaces with the backslash

HTH,

AndyC

Upgrade naar Jessie faalt

[Hegebeek]

Geachte dames en heren,

Ik dank Geert Stappers voor zijn reactie.

Ik heb de tip van Geert uitgevoerd:

root@desktop-computer:~# dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc
/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: grub-pc is beschadigd of niet volledig 
geïnstalleerd

root@desktop-computer:~#

Ik wil daarna grub-pc opnieuw installeren, maar het eerst goed opruimen, 
ik overweeg met --purge, maar durf dat niet omdat ik RAID 1 gebruik, 
kies daarom voor --remove, overeenkomstig paragraaf 4.5.3 van de release 
notes:


root@desktop-computer:~# dpkg --remove grub-pc
dpkg: vereistenproblemen verhinderen het verwijderen van grub-pc:
 startupmanager is afhankelijk van grub | grub-pc; maar:
  Pakket grub is niet geïnstalleerd.
  Pakket grub-pc moet verwijderd worden.

dpkg: fout bij verwerken van pakket grub-pc (--remove):
 vereistenproblemen - wordt niet verwijderd
Fouten gevonden tijdens verwerken van:
 grub-pc
root@desktop-computer:~#

Ik voer daarna de voorgenomen herinstallatie toch uit:

root@desktop-computer:~# apt-get --reinstall install grub-pc
Pakketlijsten worden ingelezen... Klaar
Boom van vereisten wordt opgebouwd
De statusinformatie wordt gelezen... Klaar
De volgende pakketten zijn automatisch geïnstalleerd en zijn niet langer 
nodig:
  argyll caribou caribou-antler dconf-tools firefox-esr-l10n-nl 
fonts-cantarell gir1.2-gdata-0.0 gir1.2-goa-1.0 gir1.2-gtop-2.0 
gnome-color-manager gnome-documents gnome-font-viewer 
gnome-shell-extensions
  gnome-tweak-tool libcaribou-gtk-module libcaribou-gtk3-module 
libsofia-sip-ua-glib3 libsofia-sip-ua0 python-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets 
telepathy-rakia unoconv

Gebruik 'apt-get autoremove' om ze te verwijderen.
0 opgewaardeerd, 0 nieuw geïnstalleerd, 1 opnieuw geïnstalleerd, 0 te 
verwijderen en 3 niet opgewaardeerd.

4 niet volledig geïnstalleerd of verwijderd.
Na deze bewerking zal er 0 B extra schijfruimte gebruikt worden.
E: Internal Error, No file name for grub-pc:amd64
root@desktop-computer:~#

Met de moed der wanhoop sta ik nog even stil bij de uitvoer van 
dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc en wil weten welke van de twee het geval is. 
Als het pakket beschadigd is dan kan dat met debsums worden achterhaald:


root@desktop-computer:~# debsums -la grub-pc
debsums: package grub-pc is not installed
root@desktop-computer:~#

Ik denk nog een keer na. No file name for grub-pc:amd64, heet het. Ik ga 
apt-get update nog een keer uitvoeren, zodat grub-pc als pakket bekend 
is.


root@desktop-computer:~# apt-get update
[...]
930 kB opgehaald in 2s (324 kB/s)
Pakketlijsten worden ingelezen... Klaar
root@desktop-computer:~#

Nu nog een keer apt-get dist-upgrade:

root@desktop-computer:~# apt-get dist-upgrade
Pakketlijsten worden ingelezen... Klaar
Boom van vereisten wordt opgebouwd
De statusinformatie wordt gelezen... Klaar
Opwaardering wordt doorgerekend... De volgende pakketten zijn 
automatisch geïnstalleerd en zijn niet langer nodig:
  argyll caribou caribou-antler dconf-tools firefox-esr-l10n-nl 
fonts-cantarell gir1.2-gdata-0.0 gir1.2-goa-1.0 gir1.2-gtop-2.0 
gnome-color-manager gnome-documents gnome-font-viewer 
gnome-shell-extensions
  gnome-tweak-tool libcaribou-gtk-module libcaribou-gtk3-module 
libsofia-sip-ua-glib3 libsofia-sip-ua0 python-aptdaemon.gtk3widgets 
telepathy-rakia unoconv

Gebruik 'apt-get autoremove' om ze te verwijderen.
Klaar
De volgende pakketten zullen opgewaardeerd worden:
  firefox-esr firefox-esr-l10n-nl p7zip-full
3 opgewaardeerd, 0 nieuw geïnstalleerd, 0 te verwijderen en 0 niet 
opgewaardeerd.

4 niet volledig geïnstalleerd of verwijderd.
Er moeten 44,9 MB aan archieven opgehaald worden.
Na deze bewerking zal er 2578 kB extra schijfruimte gebruikt worden.
Wilt u doorgaan? [J/n] J
Ophalen:1 http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates/main 
firefox-esr-l10n-nl all 45.2.0esr-1~deb8u1 [505 kB]
Ophalen:2 http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates/main firefox-esr 
amd64 45.2.0esr-1~deb8u1 [43,5 MB]
Ophalen:3 http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates/main p7zip-full 
amd64 9.20.1~dfsg.1-4.1+deb8u2 [924 kB]

44,9 MB opgehaald in 20s (2165 kB/s)
Bezig met het inlezen van changelogs... Klaar
(Database wordt ingelezen ... 211663 bestanden en mappen momenteel 
geïnstalleerd.)
Uitpakken van .../firefox-esr-l10n-nl_45.2.0esr-1~deb8u1_all.deb wordt 
voorbereid...
Uitpakken van firefox-esr-l10n-nl (45.2.0esr-1~deb8u1) over 
(45.2.0esr-1~deb7u1) ...
Uitpakken van .../firefox-esr_45.2.0esr-1~deb8u1_amd64.deb wordt 
voorbereid...
'omleiding van /usr/bin/firefox naar /usr/bin/firefox.real door 
firefox-esr' wordt gelaten
Uitpakken van firefox-esr (45.2.0esr-1~deb8u1) over (45.2.0esr-1~deb7u1) 
...
Uitpakken van .../p7zip-full_9.20.1~dfsg.1-4.1+deb8u2_amd64.deb wordt 
voorbereid...
Uitpakken van p7zip-full (9.20.1~dfsg.1-4.1+deb8u2) over 
(9.20.1~dfsg.1-4.1+deb8u1) ...

Bezig met afhandelen van triggers voor mime-support (3.58) ...
Bezig met afhandelen van triggers voor gnome-menus (3.13.3-6) ...
Bezig met afhandelen van triggers voor desktop-file-utils (0.22-1) ...
Bezig met afhandelen van 

Re: how to make bootable live wheezy USB that doesn't use isohybrid

[Brian]

On Tue 14 Jun 2016 at 17:44:53 +0100, Brian wrote:

> 5. Write a grub.cfg. Here is one of mine you can adopt:

You might prefer to adapt it if you feel you are unable to give it a
good home and nurture it.

Re: how to make bootable live wheezy USB that doesn't use isohybrid

[Brian]

On Tue 14 Jun 2016 at 08:50:28 -0400, Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote:

> I'd like to make a live wheezy USB dongle. I followed the instructions on
> 
>https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb
> 
> to make a live USB from
> 
>
> http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/7.11.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso
> 
> but apparently my machine, an older Dell Poweredge R815, won't boot from
> isohybrid. Can someone point me to a howto for making a bootable live wheezy
> USB dongle that doesn't use isohybrid?

1. Make two partitions on the dongle. One big enough to hold GRUB's
   files and the other sufficient for the -amd64-standard.iso.

2. Format the smaller partition vfat.

3. Install GRUB to the MBR of the dongle and with its files on the
   formatted partition.

4. dd, cp or cat the -amd64-standard.iso to the second partition.

5. Write a grub.cfg. Here is one of mine you can adopt:

  menuentry "Debian Live KDE" {
  search --label --set=root "Debian Wheezy 20131014-01:18"
  linux /live/vmlinuz2 boot=live config quiet splash
  initrd /live/initrd2.img
  }

   uuid is an alternative you could use to 'label'.

Re: how to make bootable live wheezy USB that doesn't use isohybrid

[Jeffrey Mark Siskind]

   > I'd like to make a live wheezy USB dongle. I followed the
   > instructions on
   > 
   >https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb
   > 
   > to make a live USB from
   > 
   >
http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/7.11.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso
   > 
   > but apparently my machine, an older Dell Poweredge R815, won't boot
   > from isohybrid. Can someone point me to a howto for making a bootable
   > live wheezy USB dongle that doesn't use isohybrid?

   Not familiar with that model.  Will it boot from the USB
   port?  I'm assuming it will.  Seems new enough for that feature.
   So check the drive boot order and change as required.

It will boot MSDOS from a fat32 formatted USB dongle. But apparently, it won't
boot an isohybrid formatted USB dongle. It has nothing to do with drive boot
order. If I create a USB dongle with

   # cd /tmp
   # wget 
http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/boot.img.gz
   # wget 
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.5.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-8.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso
   # zcat boot.img.gz >/dev/sdf
   # mount /dev/sdf /mnt
   # cp firmware-8.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso /mnt/.
   # umount /mnt

the R815 will detect and boot from the resulting USB dongle. If I create a USB
dongle with

   # cd /tmp
   # wget 
http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/7.11.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso
   # cp debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso /def/sdf

the R815 will not detect and not boot from the resulting USB dongle. If I do

   # cd /tmp
   # wget 
http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/boot.img.gz
   # wget 
http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/7.11.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso
   # zcat boot.img.gz >/dev/sdf
   # mount /dev/sdf /mnt
   # cp debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso /def/sdf
   # umount /mnt

will this be able to boot a live wheezy?

Jeff (http://engineering.purdue.edu/~qobi)

Re: exim 4

[Camaleón]

El Tue, 14 Jun 2016 10:49:22 -0400, josealfredo escribió:

> hola  mi guen q  podra ser q  tengo instalado exim  4 y cuando envio
> correo salen  perfectamente  pero cuando tratan de  enviarme a los
> usuario les rebota  y le  pone este error This message was created
> automatically by mail delivery software.
> 
> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
> 
>josealfr...@ucm.hlg.sld.cu
>  SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT
> TO::
>  host naix.hlg.sld.cu [201.220.196.178]: 550 No esta autenticado en
> el servidor o no pude hacer relay

Tienes que hacer una prueba de envío desde una cuenta de correo que no 
sea de tu servidor (de ti para ti no sirve), por ejemplo, de Gmail, 
Hotmail, etc... y enviar un correo electrónico a una de tus cuentas y 
dinos si te sigue viniendo rebotado.

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: ssh again

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 14 June 2016 16:32:45 emetib wrote:
> > That's my project after next - if I live that long!!! ;-)  Probably a
> > quick way of getting rid of the rest of my hair.  And/or turning it grey.
> >
> > Lisi
>
> lisi,
>
> hopefully this is to the list and not private.

:-))  It was. :-)
>
> for your home network -
>
> /etc/hosts
> add the ipaddress followed by the hostname
>
> i.e.
> 127.0.0.1 localhost
> 127.0.1.1 hestia
>
> 192.168.122.10testing
> 192.168.122.11stable
> 192.168.122.12one-i386
>
> that will make ssh user@hostname work instead of user@ipaddress.  also
> works with scp and sftp
>
> take care

Thank you very much!!

Lisi

Re: ssh again

[emetib]

> 
> Lisi

for you home network use /etc/hosts
i.e
127.0.0.1   localhost
127.0.1.1   hestia

192.168.122.10  testing
192.168.122.11  stable
192.168.122.12  one-i386

this will make it so you can ssh user@hostname instead of ssh user@ipaddress.
this works with scp and sftp also.

take care

Re: how to make bootable live wheezy USB that doesn't use isohybrid

[Jeffrey Mark Siskind]

   > I'd like to make a live wheezy USB dongle. I followed the instructions on

   Why wheezy ... it's old.

I have been running wheezy for about 5 years without any problem. The machine
has two partitions / and /aux. I attempted a fresh install of jessie in /.
But the install failed and the machine won't boot. It appears that the kernel
in jessie tickles something in the hardware that wasn't tickled by wheezy. I
will likely upgrade the firmware. (Dell Poweredge machines have a lot of
distinct firmware components besides the BIOS.) But before I do, I want to get
the data off the /aux partition. So I want to boot something that I know works.

   >https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb
   > 
   > to make a live USB from
   > 
   >
http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/7.11.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso

   There are many ways to make a bootable HDD image if this can be booted.

   By using aufs or newer overlayfs, you can choose to make OS persistent
   while your running system writing on RAM(tmpfs).

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/InstallOnSDcardOrUsbStick
I have not tested but this may give you hint.

   I also use kvm to install system on USB connected HDD from my working
   Debian system.

   many ways ...

I don't need it to be persistent. I just need to get enough of a root shell to
run tar|ssh to get the data off of /aux. /aux is /dev/md1 which is RAID5
across /dev/sd[a-f]2. So I need enough to be able to mount that read-only.
Then when that is done I will upgrade the firmware and reattempt a jessie
install.

So I'd appreciate help getting the easiest way to get a root shell with tar,
ssh, and mdadm.

The issue is that the machine is too old to boot isohybrid from USB. It needs
to boot msdos from fat32 on USB. See other emails in this thread.

Jeff (http://engineering.purdue.edu/~qobi)

Re: how to make bootable live wheezy USB that doesn't use isohybrid

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi,

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 08:50:28AM -0400, Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote:
> I'd like to make a live wheezy USB dongle. I followed the instructions on

Why wheezy ... it's old.

>https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb
> 
> to make a live USB from
> 
>
> http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/7.11.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso

There are many ways to make a bootable HDD image if this can be booted.

By using aufs or newer overlayfs, you can choose to make OS persistent
while your running system writing on RAM(tmpfs).

 https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/InstallOnSDcardOrUsbStick
 I have not tested but this may give you hint.

I also use kvm to install system on USB connected HDD from my working
Debian system.

many ways ...

Re: ssh again

[emetib]

> That's my project after next - if I live that long!!! ;-)  Probably a quick 
> way of getting rid of the rest of my hair.  And/or turning it grey.
> 
> Lisi

lisi, 

hopefully this is to the list and not private.

for your home network -

/etc/hosts
add the ipaddress followed by the hostname

i.e.
127.0.0.1   localhost
127.0.1.1   hestia

192.168.122.10  testing
192.168.122.11  stable
192.168.122.12  one-i386

that will make ssh user@hostname work instead of user@ipaddress.  also works 
with scp and sftp

take care

Re: exim 4

[Paynalton]

Pues eso... Tu servidor Exim está rechazando entregas que no estén
autentificadas, por tanto correos provenientes de otros servidores no
llegan a las bandejas de tus usuarios.

Puedes hacer pruebas usando telnet, acá hay instrucciones de como
hacerlo:

http://www.yuki-onna.co.uk/email/smtp.html

Tu servidor EXIM debería permitir que entregues a través de telnet
correo a tus usuarios locales y rechazar envíar correos a dominios
externos

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El mar, 14-06-2016 a las 10:49 -0400, josealfr...@ucm.hlg.sld.cu
escribió:

> hola  mi guen q  podra ser q  tengo instalado exim  4 y cuando envio 
> correo salen  perfectamente  pero cuando tratan de  enviarme a los  
> usuario les rebota  y le  pone este error
> This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
> 
> A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
> recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
> 
>josealfr...@ucm.hlg.sld.cu
>  SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT 
> TO::
>  host naix.hlg.sld.cu [201.220.196.178]: 550 No esta autenticado en 
> el servidor o no pude hacer relay
> 
> -- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. --
> 
> --
> Este mensaje le ha llegado mediante el servicio de correo electronico que 
> ofrece Infomed para respaldar el cumplimiento de las misiones del Sistema 
> Nacional de Salud. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de 
> usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas
> 
> Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/
> 

Re: erreur pour créer un user avec mariadb

[Bernard Schoenacker]

Le Tue, 14 Jun 2016 17:05:26 +0200,
Bernard Schoenacker  a écrit :

> Le Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:25:52 +0200,
> Bernard Schoenacker  a écrit :
> 
> > bonjour,
> > 
> > 
> > j'essaye de créer un user avec mariadb en ligne de commande et voici
> > le résultat :
> > 
> > 
> > mysql -u phpmyadmin -p
> > Enter password: 
> > Welcome to the MariaDB monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
> > Your MariaDB connection id is 868
> > Server version: 10.0.25-MariaDB-1 Debian buildd-unstable
> > 
> > Copyright (c) 2000, 2016, Oracle, MariaDB Corporation Ab and others.
> > 
> > Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the current input
> > statement.
> > 
> > MariaDB [(none)]> CREATE USER 'louche'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY
> > 'jean-michel'; ERROR 1227 (42000): Access denied; you need (at least
> > one of) the CREATE USER privilege(s) for this operation
> > 
> > 
> > comment sortir de l'impasse ?
> > 
> > slt
> > bernard
> >   
> 
> bonjour,
> 
> je donne la suite pour éclaircir un peut les nuages :
> 
> For server side help, type 'help contents'
> 
> MariaDB [(none)]> status 
> --
> mysql  Ver 15.1 Distrib 10.0.25-MariaDB, for debian-linux-gnu (i686)
> using readline 5.2
> 
> Connection id:879
> Current database: 
> Current user: phpmyadmin@localhost
> SSL:  Not in use
> Current pager:most
> Using outfile:''
> Using delimiter:  ;
> Server:   MariaDB
> Server version:   10.0.25-MariaDB-1 Debian
> buildd-unstable Protocol version: 10
> Connection:   Localhost via UNIX socket
> Server characterset:  utf8mb4
> Db characterset:  utf8mb4
> Client characterset:  utf8mb4
> Conn.  characterset:  utf8mb4
> UNIX socket:  /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
> Uptime:   3 days 16 hours 5 min 28 sec
> 
> Threads: 1  Questions: 4746  Slow queries: 0  Opens: 34  Flush tables:
> 1  Open tables: 97  Queries per second avg: 0.014 --
> 
> 
> slt
> bernard
> 

bonjour,

j'ai essayé laprocédure debian :

mysql -u root
ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using
password: NO)

slt
bernard

Re: ssh again

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 14 June 2016 15:53:17 Mark Fletcher wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 11:48 PM Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> > On Tuesday 14 June 2016 15:40:22 Reco wrote:
> > >   Hi.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 03:32:19PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >
> > Hostnames, here I come.
> >
> > For hostnames within your own network, consider installing avahi.

Thanks, Mark.  I have.  After the earlier hints.  I just haven't got it 
working yet. :-(  So I shall look at both it and having hostnames files to 
see which I can actually succeed with.

> > That's 
>
> how I got it working on an LFS system I built recently where _nothing_
> worked until I built / installed / configured it myself. The process of
> getting that machine to a useful state taught me a lot, not least an
> appreciation for everything that "just works" with Debian!

That's my project after next - if I live that long!!! ;-)  Probably a quick 
way of getting rid of the rest of my hair.  And/or turning it grey.

Lisi

Re: erreur pour créer un user avec mariadb

[Bernard Schoenacker]

Le Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:25:52 +0200,
Bernard Schoenacker  a écrit :

> bonjour,
> 
> 
> j'essaye de créer un user avec mariadb en ligne de commande et voici
> le résultat :
> 
> 
> mysql -u phpmyadmin -p
> Enter password: 
> Welcome to the MariaDB monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
> Your MariaDB connection id is 868
> Server version: 10.0.25-MariaDB-1 Debian buildd-unstable
> 
> Copyright (c) 2000, 2016, Oracle, MariaDB Corporation Ab and others.
> 
> Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the current input
> statement.
> 
> MariaDB [(none)]> CREATE USER 'louche'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY
> 'jean-michel'; ERROR 1227 (42000): Access denied; you need (at least
> one of) the CREATE USER privilege(s) for this operation
> 
> 
> comment sortir de l'impasse ?
> 
> slt
> bernard
> 

bonjour,

je donne la suite pour éclaircir un peut les nuages :

For server side help, type 'help contents'

MariaDB [(none)]> status 
--
mysql  Ver 15.1 Distrib 10.0.25-MariaDB, for debian-linux-gnu (i686)
using readline 5.2

Connection id:  879
Current database:   
Current user:   phpmyadmin@localhost
SSL:Not in use
Current pager:  most
Using outfile:  ''
Using delimiter:;
Server: MariaDB
Server version: 10.0.25-MariaDB-1 Debian buildd-unstable
Protocol version:   10
Connection: Localhost via UNIX socket
Server characterset:utf8mb4
Db characterset:utf8mb4
Client characterset:utf8mb4
Conn.  characterset:utf8mb4
UNIX socket:/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
Uptime: 3 days 16 hours 5 min 28 sec

Threads: 1  Questions: 4746  Slow queries: 0  Opens: 34  Flush tables:
1  Open tables: 97  Queries per second avg: 0.014 --


slt
bernard

Re: how to make bootable live wheezy USB that doesn't use isohybrid

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 14 June 2016 13:50:28 Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote:
> Can someone point me to a howto for making a bootable live wheezy
> USB dongle that doesn't use isohybrid?

From where are you going to get a non-hybrid Wheezy .iso?

I have come across computers that won't boot from USB for various reasons, but 
never one that will boot from USB, but won't boot from hybrid.

Lisi

Re: how to make bootable live wheezy USB that doesn't use isohybrid

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 14 June 2016 13:50:28 Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote:
> I'd like to make a live wheezy USB dongle. I followed the instructions on
>
>https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb
>
> to make a live USB from
>
>   
> http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/7.11.0-live/amd64/iso-hybr
>id/debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso
>
> but apparently my machine, an older Dell Poweredge R815, won't boot from
> isohybrid. Can someone point me to a howto for making a bootable live
> wheezy USB dongle that doesn't use isohybrid?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff (http://engineering.purdue.edu/~qobi)

Incidentally, why Wheezy?  Why install Wheezy at this juncture?  

exim 4

[josealfredo]

hola  mi guen q  podra ser q  tengo instalado exim  4 y cuando envio 
correo salen  perfectamente  pero cuando tratan de  enviarme a los  
usuario les rebota  y le  pone este error

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recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

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--
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el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas

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Re: ssh again

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 14 June 2016 15:42:17 Lars Noodén wrote:
> On 06/14/2016 05:32 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > peter@Nyx-II:~/Lisi$ cp Ken-Blue-10.jpg Lisi@192.168.0.2:~/Pictures/
> > cp: cannot create regular file ‘Lisi@192.168.0.2:~/Pictures/’: No such
> > file or directory
> > peter@Nyx-II:~/Lisi$ cp Ken-Blue-10.jpg
> > Lisi@192.168.0.2:~/Pictures/Ken-Blue-test
> > cp: cannot create regular file
> > ‘Lisi@192.168.0.2:~/Pictures/Ken-Blue-test’: No such file or directory
> > peter@Nyx-II:~/Lisi$
>
> There's a typo there.  It should be scp rather than cp, to get from one
> machine to the other.  You might consider using sftp since that tool
> gives more to work with.
>
> About the dynamic ip numbers, there are several ways to solve that.  One
> is to get them an account with a dynamic DNS service.  There are some
> free, with conditions, there are some that cost, and there are some
> regular registrars that even offer it as part of their regular service.

Thank you, Lars.  That was an error, not a typo.  Now corrected.  I'll 
certainly look at sftp.

Thanks for the tip re IPs.  That has cheered me up!!  The distance is becoming 
more of a problem, and finding them a replacement for myself is tricky to say 
the least. 

Lisi

Re: ssh again

[Mark Fletcher]

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 11:48 PM Lisi Reisz  wrote:

> On Tuesday 14 June 2016 15:40:22 Reco wrote:
> >   Hi.
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 03:32:19PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> Hostnames, here I come.
>
> For hostnames within your own network, consider installing avahi. That's
how I got it working on an LFS system I built recently where _nothing_
worked until I built / installed / configured it myself. The process of
getting that machine to a useful state taught me a lot, not least an
appreciation for everything that "just works" with Debian!

Mark

Re: ssh again

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 14 June 2016 15:40:22 Reco wrote:
>   Hi.
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 03:32:19PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > peter@Nyx-II:~/Lisi$ cp Ken-Blue-10.jpg Lisi@192.168.0.2:~/Pictures/
> > cp: cannot create regular file ‘Lisi@192.168.0.2:~/Pictures/’: No such
> > file or directory
> > peter@Nyx-II:~/Lisi$ cp Ken-Blue-10.jpg
> > Lisi@192.168.0.2:~/Pictures/Ken-Blue-test
> > cp: cannot create regular file
> > ‘Lisi@192.168.0.2:~/Pictures/Ken-Blue-test’: No such file or directory
>
> Use 'scp', not 'cp'.
>
> Reco

AND use the correct user-name!!!

Thank you so much Reco.  That worked. \o/

Hostnames, here I come.

Lisi

Re: ssh again

[Lars Noodén]

On 06/14/2016 05:32 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> peter@Nyx-II:~/Lisi$ cp Ken-Blue-10.jpg Lisi@192.168.0.2:~/Pictures/
> cp: cannot create regular file ‘Lisi@192.168.0.2:~/Pictures/’: No such file 
> or 
> directory
> peter@Nyx-II:~/Lisi$ cp Ken-Blue-10.jpg 
> Lisi@192.168.0.2:~/Pictures/Ken-Blue-test
> cp: cannot create regular file ‘Lisi@192.168.0.2:~/Pictures/Ken-Blue-test’: 
> No 
> such file or directory
> peter@Nyx-II:~/Lisi$

There's a typo there.  It should be scp rather than cp, to get from one
machine to the other.  You might consider using sftp since that tool
gives more to work with.

About the dynamic ip numbers, there are several ways to solve that.  One
is to get them an account with a dynamic DNS service.  There are some
free, with conditions, there are some that cost, and there are some
regular registrars that even offer it as part of their regular service.

Regards,
Lars

Re: ssh again

[Reco]

Hi.

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 03:32:19PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> peter@Nyx-II:~/Lisi$ cp Ken-Blue-10.jpg Lisi@192.168.0.2:~/Pictures/
> cp: cannot create regular file ‘Lisi@192.168.0.2:~/Pictures/’: No such file 
> or 
> directory
> peter@Nyx-II:~/Lisi$ cp Ken-Blue-10.jpg 
> Lisi@192.168.0.2:~/Pictures/Ken-Blue-test
> cp: cannot create regular file ‘Lisi@192.168.0.2:~/Pictures/Ken-Blue-test’: 
> No 
> such file or directory

Use 'scp', not 'cp'.

Reco

Fwd: ssh again

[Lisi Reisz]

Here is a repeat of my earlier failed attempt.

peter@Nyx-II:~/Lisi$ scp /home/peter/Pictures/Winter\ Dream\ II.jpg 
lisi@192.168.0.2:/home/lisi/Pictures?Winter\ Dream\ II.jpg
lisi@192.168.0.2's password:
scp: ambiguous target
peter@Nyx-II:~/Lisi$

This was the method that had worked from .2 to .3.  (Logged into .3 from .2, 
copied from .2 to .3 - that's how that picture got there!!)

Lisi

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: ssh again
Date: Tuesday 14 June 2016, 15:32:19
From: Lisi Reisz 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org

Having got ssh working reliably oevr my home network, tahnks ot teh opatient 
help of thsi list, I am now trying to copy files aroind.  I am on 
192.168.0.2, but have sshed in to 192.268.0.3 (I must get hostnames 
working :-(  ).

The other day I successfully ciopied a pictiyure from .2 to .3, and now I am 
tring to copy from .3 to .2.  I have been usinmg this:
"To copy a file from B to A while logged into B:

scp /path/to/file username@a:/path/to/destination
"
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/106480/how-to-copy-files-from-one-machine-to-another-using-ssh

Here is what I have done (all of it, in case something I deem irrelevant is 
the crux of the matter)):
---
lisi@Tux-II:~$ ssh peter@192.168.0.3
peter@192.168.0.3's password:

The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software;
the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.

Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
permitted by applicable law.
Last login: Tue Jun 14 15:17:05 2016
peter@Nyx-II:~$ cd Lisi/
peter@Nyx-II:~/Lisi$ ls
Council-tax-bill   Packages-installed-on-Tux-II
Drug-order_13-08-26.odtP-passport
file2ssXvS.xlsxtax-info
grub-warnings-when-updating-to-7.2 tax-info_81-purchase
Ken-Blue-10.jpgTheSecretsOfStationX
libflashplayer.so.odt  Tux-II_sources.list
L-passport.pdf watch
L-passport.png watch-colour
Mass-of-Christ-the-King_singing-order.odt  Wireless-tests.odt
Nyx-hardware-address.odt
peter@Nyx-II:~/Lisi$ cp Ken-Blue-10.jpg Lisi@192.168.0.2:~/Pictures/
cp: cannot create regular file ‘Lisi@192.168.0.2:~/Pictures/’: No such file or 
directory
peter@Nyx-II:~/Lisi$ cp Ken-Blue-10.jpg 
Lisi@192.168.0.2:~/Pictures/Ken-Blue-test
cp: cannot create regular file ‘Lisi@192.168.0.2:~/Pictures/Ken-Blue-test’: No 
such file or directory
peter@Nyx-II:~/Lisi$
---

Once I have one file copied, I shall divert back to square one and sort out 
host names, starting with the hints I have already been given.  I can't keep 
using full IPs!

After all this, my main motivation for learning right now was to ssh into two 
computers that I administer 11 miles away, without having to bother the 
owners (I would just have to say: leave your computers turned on), and I'm 
not going to be able to do it, I think, because their ISP uses dynamic 
IPs. :-(  (I have a static IP.)

Lisi


---

Re: how to make bootable live wheezy USB that doesn't use isohybrid

[Patrick Bartek]

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016, Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote:

> I'd like to make a live wheezy USB dongle. I followed the
> instructions on
> 
>https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb
> 
> to make a live USB from
> 
>
> http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/7.11.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso
> 
> but apparently my machine, an older Dell Poweredge R815, won't boot
> from isohybrid. Can someone point me to a howto for making a bootable
> live wheezy USB dongle that doesn't use isohybrid?

Not familiar with that model.  Will it boot from the USB
port?  I'm assuming it will.  Seems new enough for that feature.
So check the drive boot order and change as required.

B  

ssh again

[Lisi Reisz]

Having got ssh working reliably oevr my home network, tahnks ot teh opatient 
help of thsi list, I am now trying to copy files aroind.  I am on 
192.168.0.2, but have sshed in to 192.268.0.3 (I must get hostnames 
working :-(  ).

The other day I successfully ciopied a pictiyure from .2 to .3, and now I am 
tring to copy from .3 to .2.  I have been usinmg this:
"To copy a file from B to A while logged into B:

scp /path/to/file username@a:/path/to/destination
"
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/106480/how-to-copy-files-from-one-machine-to-another-using-ssh

Here is what I have done (all of it, in case something I deem irrelevant is 
the crux of the matter)):
---
lisi@Tux-II:~$ ssh peter@192.168.0.3
peter@192.168.0.3's password:

The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software;
the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.

Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
permitted by applicable law.
Last login: Tue Jun 14 15:17:05 2016
peter@Nyx-II:~$ cd Lisi/
peter@Nyx-II:~/Lisi$ ls
Council-tax-bill   Packages-installed-on-Tux-II
Drug-order_13-08-26.odtP-passport
file2ssXvS.xlsxtax-info
grub-warnings-when-updating-to-7.2 tax-info_81-purchase
Ken-Blue-10.jpgTheSecretsOfStationX
libflashplayer.so.odt  Tux-II_sources.list
L-passport.pdf watch
L-passport.png watch-colour
Mass-of-Christ-the-King_singing-order.odt  Wireless-tests.odt
Nyx-hardware-address.odt
peter@Nyx-II:~/Lisi$ cp Ken-Blue-10.jpg Lisi@192.168.0.2:~/Pictures/
cp: cannot create regular file ‘Lisi@192.168.0.2:~/Pictures/’: No such file or 
directory
peter@Nyx-II:~/Lisi$ cp Ken-Blue-10.jpg 
Lisi@192.168.0.2:~/Pictures/Ken-Blue-test
cp: cannot create regular file ‘Lisi@192.168.0.2:~/Pictures/Ken-Blue-test’: No 
such file or directory
peter@Nyx-II:~/Lisi$
---

Once I have one file copied, I shall divert back to square one and sort out 
host names, starting with the hints I have already been given.  I can't keep 
using full IPs!

After all this, my main motivation for learning right now was to ssh into two 
computers that I administer 11 miles away, without having to bother the 
owners (I would just have to say: leave your computers turned on), and I'm 
not going to be able to do it, I think, because their ISP uses dynamic 
IPs. :-(  (I have a static IP.)

Lisi

how to make bootable live wheezy USB that doesn't use isohybrid

[Jeffrey Mark Siskind]

I'd like to make a live wheezy USB dongle. I followed the instructions on

   https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb

to make a live USB from

   
http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/7.11.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.11.0-amd64-standard.iso

but apparently my machine, an older Dell Poweredge R815, won't boot from
isohybrid. Can someone point me to a howto for making a bootable live wheezy
USB dongle that doesn't use isohybrid?

Thanks,
Jeff (http://engineering.purdue.edu/~qobi)

erreur pour créer un user avec mariadb

[Bernard Schoenacker]

bonjour,


j'essaye de créer un user avec mariadb en ligne de commande et voici le
résultat :


mysql -u phpmyadmin -p
Enter password: 
Welcome to the MariaDB monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
Your MariaDB connection id is 868
Server version: 10.0.25-MariaDB-1 Debian buildd-unstable

Copyright (c) 2000, 2016, Oracle, MariaDB Corporation Ab and others.

Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the current input statement.

MariaDB [(none)]> CREATE USER 'louche'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'jean-michel';
ERROR 1227 (42000): Access denied; you need (at least one of) the CREATE USER 
privilege(s) for this operation


comment sortir de l'impasse ?

slt
bernard

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

[tomas]

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Just take this as my personal opinion. Others may disagree.

In any case thank you very much for doing the hard translation work.

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Re: Clock

[Johann Klammer]

On 06/14/2016 06:40 AM, Richard Barmann wrote:
> About once a week when I boot up I find the clock is exactly 4 hours slow. I 
> am using Kubuntu 16.04. If I am asking the question in the wrong place please 
> send me to the correct forum.
> Thank you.
Try changing /etc/adjtime to have LOCAL at the third line(instead of UTC). 
also 
man hwclock

Re: Mailing-list configuration (was: Big dummy at work again)

[cbannister]

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 06:36:53PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> Le sextidi 26 prairial, an CCXXIV, Morten Bo Johansen a écrit :
> > Since you are using Mutt, all you need to do to be well behaved
> > (i.e. not send personal CCs) is to hit 'L' when you reply
> 
> As I already explained twice, a solution that requires a different action

Even three times doesn't mean you're right. You know, ... when in Rome ...

> when it is a mailing-list and when it is not is not an acceptable solution.
> The solution I advocate does not have this issue.
> 
> Let me try to re-state it one more time another way:
> 
> A is annoyed by unwanted CCs and wants to make it stop.

You're ignoring the CoC, which is worse.

-- 
The media's the most powerful entity on earth. 
They have the power to make the innocent guilty 
and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power.
 -- Malcolm X

Re: Mailing-list configuration

[cbannister]

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 02:57:29PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> But we have to also remember that mutt is very very loong in the 
> tooth Lisi. I've looked at it but never used it, so I've no knowledge if 
> its have any serious TLC in the last decade.

"Mutt 1.6.1 was released on May 1, 2016."
http://www.mutt.org

-- 
The media's the most powerful entity on earth. 
They have the power to make the innocent guilty 
and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power.
 -- Malcolm X

Re: Mailing-list configuration

[Jonathan Dowland]

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 02:57:29PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> But we have to also remember that mutt is very very loong in the 
> tooth Lisi. I've looked at it but never used it, so I've no knowledge if 
> its have any serious TLC in the last decade.

These mailing list / reply to arguments are similarly long in the tooth.
I remember the exact same nonsense over 10 years ago on this very list,
sadly. Mutt supports the correct workflow, and can be configured even
further to make it impossible to issue a personal reply if wanted (with
folder hooks to unbind the 'reply to sender' command). Plus ça change.

Re: Mailing-list configuration

[cbannister]

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 05:12:57PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
> Le sextidi 26 prairial, an CCXXIV, Tanstaafl a écrit :
> > This is why Reply-To-List is the way to reply when engaged in a mailing
> > list.
> > 
> > If your client doesn't have this, then maybe it is time to consider
> > changing.
> 
> I am not sure what you are aiming at. If "Reply-To-List" is supposed to be a
> message header, as the typography, then you can observe that it is not
> present in most of the mails on this mailing-list.

It's as simple as pressing 'L' in mutt.

I agree that if you are unsure if the poster is a new poster and *may* not
be subscribed, then sure CC them, but to continue to CC someone when they
have explicitly asked not to be is just plain rude.

-- 
The media's the most powerful entity on earth. 
They have the power to make the innocent guilty 
and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power.
 -- Malcolm X

Re: Clock

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 14 June 2016 07:20:28 Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
> Richard Barmann wrote on 06/14/16 05:36:
> > About once a week when I boot up I find the clock is exactly 4 hours
> > slow. I am using Kubuntu 16.04. If I am asking the question in the wrong
> > place please send me to the correct forum.
> > Thank you.
>
> The four hours seem to be related to your time zone.
> Is this a multi-boot system?
> Did you boot another OS before the clock shift?

Richard is located at GMT -4.  (KMail-Trinity gives me that information!!)  He 
probably boots Another OS, which resets the hardware clock to local time.  So 
Kubuntu sees hardware clock equals  e.g. 10:00, Hardware clock must be in 
UTC, I am at UTC -4, sets local clock to 6:00, clock is four hours slow.

One can set Kubuntu to know that the hardware clock is in local time, but I 
don't know how.

Lisi

Re: Clock

[Cindy-Sue Causey]

On 6/14/16, Jörg-Volker Peetz  wrote:
> Richard Barmann wrote on 06/14/16 05:36:
>> About once a week when I boot up I find the clock is exactly 4 hours slow.
>> I am
>> using Kubuntu 16.04. If I am asking the question in the wrong place please
>> send
>> me to the correct forum.
>> Thank you.
>>
>
> The four hours seem to be related to your time zone.
> Is this a multi-boot system?
> Did you boot another OS before the clock shift?


I was thinking the same thing, too. I ran into something similar
occasionally (FREQUENTLY) until somewhere I stumbled upon a/the tip
about I THINK it was setting the clock via BIOS as universal time
(UTC). You then set the [operating system] clock per installed
package's features based on one's personal needs.

As soon as I did that on my own system, I never ran into the problem
again. I just tried a similar search to verify before sending this
out, and that *is* what I'm seeing reflected back as one
"recommendation" without even going to any of the websites returned in
the search. It's that [operating systems] expect to find time set as
UTC in our BIOS, and the problem comes up when it's set to our local
times.

And it *was* the same situation for me as I think more on it as I
write this up. The clock was inconsistently sometimes correct,
sometimes wrong with no predictable pattern until I made that BIOS
adjustment .

Just thinking out loud... again :)

Cindy :)

-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with plastic sporks *

Re: Clock

[Jörg-Volker Peetz]

Richard Barmann wrote on 06/14/16 05:36:
> About once a week when I boot up I find the clock is exactly 4 hours slow. I 
> am
> using Kubuntu 16.04. If I am asking the question in the wrong place please 
> send
> me to the correct forum.
> Thank you.
> 

The four hours seem to be related to your time zone.
Is this a multi-boot system?
Did you boot another OS before the clock shift?

Regards,
jvp.