Re: Strange Email Bounce

[Charlie S]

On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 13:03:10 -0500 Don Armstrong sent:

> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016, Michael Milliman wrote:
> > I just replied to an email here on the debian-user list.  I have
> > checked the debian-user list archive on debian.org, and the email
> > was indeed received and posted to the list.  Nevertheless, I also
> > received a bounce notice which was somewhat disturbing.  It
> > reported the email bounced from bac...@ninjalabs.com.  This bounce
> > notice was in HTML format and was mostly an advert.  I am not an
> > expert, or even very knowledgeable, about reading email headers,
> > however it appears that the bounce was in response to the forward
> > of my original message after having been received by the
> > lists.debian.org server.  
> 
> This happens when people have their mail system misconfigured to send
> bounces to the header From: instead of the envelope FROM.

Which people? We who are getting these bounces or some other people?

I'll see if I get another like it. If so, then unsubscribe, then
subscribe with something other than Gmail.

Charlie

Re: Debian Testing Cannot be installed on Hyper-V 2012 R2

[Cindy-Sue Causey]

On 6/20/16, Larry Sevilla  wrote:
> I'm trying to install Debian Testing under Hyper-V Windows Server 2012 R2.
>
> iso file: debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso  dated 2016-06-20 07:33 391Mb
>
> mem: Start-up 1024Mb Dynamic Min 512Mb Max 3584
> proc: 2
> vhd: 10Gb
>
> Install it using non-GUI.
>
> Then It freezes during:
>Partitions formatting at 33%
>Creating ext4 file system for / in partition #1 of SCSI3 (0,0,0)
> (sda)...
>
>
> Note: I have installed Debian 7/Wheezy 7.11 and 8/Jessie 8.5 on Hyper-V;
>   so far no problem on installation with the two versions...


Just thinking out loud while you're waiting for others to chime in..
Is this something you could try pre-formatting before starting the
installation then skip that step during installation?

Or did you already try that?

That's all I got.. It's just what I would try if I was in your Shoes.
If you end up filing a bug report on it, you could then suggest from
personal experience that pre-formatting does or does not help (well,
did not help *you*) under those circumstances in case anyone else
encounters the same before a permanent fix is found.

Even if that work-around was to work (if a user was in a hurry to
istall), determining (and then hopefully fixing) the cause of freezing
up during any installation step helps keep newcomers from running off
down the cyber highway to another distro. :)

Cindy :)

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Re: USB printer CUPS stalls on "Sending data to printer"

[Emanuel Berg]

Emanuel Berg  writes:

> File "/usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertospl" not
> available: No such file or directory

I found rastertospl it in the ULD archive, the
i386 directory.

Now when I do print it first says "... is now
printing ...", then

printer laser is idle.  enabled since Tue 21 Jun 2016 04:44:59 CEST
Rendering completed

But still nothing is printed.

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Printer color balance

[Gary Roach]

Hi all,

System Specs:
Intel DP55KG with i5-750 quad processor
Debian Stretch
Kde Desktop
HP OfficeJet Pro 8600 Printer
Cups driver for the 6800
Dell U2412M Monitor

Ive had the HP printer for some time but have not paid much attention to 
photo printing. When I decided to print photos, I found that the color 
match between my two digital cameras and my monitor are near enough to 
exact to not be a problem. The results from the HP printer are way off 
on color balance. I can't seem to find any place to adjust the computer 
(CUPS) to printer color balance. Is there any way to adjust this without 
a ton of equipment and a 40 hr course in colorimetry. Things don't have 
to be exact just reasonably close.


Gary R

Debian Testing Cannot be installed on Hyper-V 2012 R2

[Larry Sevilla]

I'm trying to install Debian Testing under Hyper-V Windows Server 2012 R2.

iso file: debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso  dated 2016-06-20 07:33 391Mb

mem: Start-up 1024Mb Dynamic Min 512Mb Max 3584
proc: 2
vhd: 10Gb

Install it using non-GUI.

Then It freezes during:
   Partitions formatting at 33%
   Creating ext4 file system for / in partition #1 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sda)...


Note: I have installed Debian 7/Wheezy 7.11 and 8/Jessie 8.5 on Hyper-V;
  so far no problem on installation with the two versions...

Re: USB printer CUPS stalls on "Sending data to printer"

[Emanuel Berg]

Emanuel Berg  writes:

> I have a USB printer installed with CUPS and it
> seems to check out but when I print it stalls!
>
> $ lpstat -p
>
> printer laser is idle. enabled since Tue 21
> Jun 2016 01:14:56 CEST Sending data to printer.

It is a Samsung laser printer, M202x series.

I found their driver, the ULD 1.00.35, and
install it for the ARM architecture.

Now instead it says:

printer laser is idle.  enabled since Tue 21 Jun 2016 02:14:04 CEST
   File "/usr/lib/cups/filter/rastertospl" not available: No such file or 
directory

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USB printer CUPS stalls on "Sending data to printer"

[Emanuel Berg]

I have a USB printer installed with CUPS and it
seems to check out but when I print it stalls!

$ lpstat -p

printer laser is idle. enabled since Tue 21 Jun 2016 01:14:56 CEST
Sending data to printer.

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Re: jessie won't install/boot on a Dell Poweredge R815

[Jochen Spieker]

deloptes:
> 
> Upgrade usually is done by
> 
> apt-get update
> apt-get upgrade
> apt-get dist-upgrade

No. You upgrade to a new stable release by reading and following the
release notes.

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Re: jessie won't install/boot on a Dell Poweredge R815

[Brian]

On Mon 20 Jun 2016 at 20:53:55 +0200, deloptes wrote:

> Brian wrote:
> 
> > On Mon 20 Jun 2016 at 13:06:30 +0200, Michael Lange wrote:
> > 
> >> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 10:43:35 +0200
> >> Sven Hartge  wrote:
> >> 
> >> > deloptes  wrote:
> >> > > Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > >> I am attempting to install jessie on a Dell Poweredge R815. It has
> >> > >> been running wheezy reliably for years. And running squeeze reliably
> >> > >> for years before that. But no matter what I try it won't install or
> >> > >> boot.
> >> > 
> >> > > why is an upgrade not an option?
> >> > 
> >> > Upgrade to what? He wants to install Jessie, you can't get a newer
> >> > stable Debian than that.
> >> 
> >> I guess he meant a dist-upgrade from an installed wheezy to jessie, if
> >> jessie won't do a fresh install.
> > 
> > I think the OP's attempt at a dist-upgrade was described in item 2 of
> > his first mail.
> 
> The problem is the kernel and some other changes that cause troubles.

Really?

You can deduce that from the sparse information provided by the OP?

I like "some other changes". Push something completely unspecified into
a discussion and we all nod our heads at the wisdom of the statement.

Re: jessie won't install/boot on a Dell Poweredge R815

[deloptes]

Brian wrote:

> On Mon 20 Jun 2016 at 13:06:30 +0200, Michael Lange wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 10:43:35 +0200
>> Sven Hartge  wrote:
>> 
>> > deloptes  wrote:
>> > > Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote:
>> > 
>> > >> I am attempting to install jessie on a Dell Poweredge R815. It has
>> > >> been running wheezy reliably for years. And running squeeze reliably
>> > >> for years before that. But no matter what I try it won't install or
>> > >> boot.
>> > 
>> > > why is an upgrade not an option?
>> > 
>> > Upgrade to what? He wants to install Jessie, you can't get a newer
>> > stable Debian than that.
>> 
>> I guess he meant a dist-upgrade from an installed wheezy to jessie, if
>> jessie won't do a fresh install.
> 
> I think the OP's attempt at a dist-upgrade was described in item 2 of
> his first mail.

The problem is the kernel and some other changes that cause troubles.

Upgrade usually is done by

apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
apt-get dist-upgrade

I failed today to upgrade wheezy to jessie on raided system as well.

The kernel/initramfs is the key to this and perhaps eliminate systemd first
time booting after the upgrade.

In the initramfs shell I usually 
1. check if disks are found (might be /dev/[hs]d* are missing.
2. mount the root partition (in the example to dir called new) and 
3. run

cd /new
exec /usr/sbin/chroot . /bin/sh <<- EOF >dev/console 2>&1
exec /sbin/init ${CMDLINE}
EOF

4. when system is up update initram
update-initramfs

This magic worked always

It is a bit more complicated if you use raid, lvm and luks, but still it
comes to the magic at the end

I hope this helps

regards

preseed partman specify_usage

[Chris Hamilton]

Hi, are there any examples of a preseed file or some one willing to provide an 
example using specify_usage? I am trying to build a vm that will host many 
containers and so I need a high inode count for the partition.

Thanks!

Re: How to download over https

[Jochen Spieker]

Dan Ritter:
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 09:50:15PM +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote:
>> 
>> Admittedly, one of the main issues with HTTPS is the number of
>> handshakes your hardware can do per second. That probably isn't a
>> problem for the CD image download server that we are discussing here.
>> But for (non-distributed) sites that serve a huge number of requests
>> (think tens of thousands of requests per second) and (unlike Google) use
>> off-the-shelf hardware and software that's a different issue.  I am
>> working on such a site and our customer has to spend big bucks for our
>> load balancers (F5 BIG IP) which terminate SSL connections in our
>> environment.
> 
> In my experience, the majority of people buying F5's load balancers
> are doing so because they don't have the expertise on staff to do
> configuration management of commodity Linux boxes running either an ipvs
> based system like ldirector or a user-mode loadbalancer like haproxy.

That may very well be the case. I don't work for the hosting provider, I
am in development. ;-)

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Re: Strange Email Bounce

[Don Armstrong]

On Mon, 20 Jun 2016, Michael Milliman wrote:
> I just replied to an email here on the debian-user list.  I have checked the
> debian-user list archive on debian.org, and the email was indeed received
> and posted to the list.  Nevertheless, I also received a bounce notice which
> was somewhat disturbing.  It reported the email bounced from
> bac...@ninjalabs.com.  This bounce notice was in HTML format and was mostly
> an advert.  I am not an expert, or even very knowledgeable, about reading
> email headers, however it appears that the bounce was in response to the
> forward of my original message after having been received by the
> lists.debian.org server.

This happens when people have their mail system misconfigured to send
bounces to the header From: instead of the envelope FROM. If you receive
them in the future, please forward them to listmas...@lists.debian.org
with a brief explanation of which list you sent the mail to and when,
and we'll unsubscribe (or try to unsubscribe) the offending address.

[Debian mailing lists have bounce handlers which automatically deal with
bounces which correctly go to the envelope FROM, but unfortunately there
are an infinite number of ways to misconfigure e-mail servers.]

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Re: jessie won't install/boot on a Dell Poweredge R815

[Don Armstrong]

On Sun, 19 Jun 2016, Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote:
>  2. I do a fresh install of wheezy from a USB dongle. It boots wheezy just 
> fine.
> I do nothing but
> 
>   nano /etc/apt/sources.list
>   (change all instances of wheezy to jessie, save, and exit)
>   apt-get update
>   apt-get dist-upgrade
>   (It upgrades without error. I answer the default to all questions.)
>   /sbin/reboot
> 
> Then it fails to reboot and goes into the initramfs. I have a picture of
> the screen if anybody wishes.

It would be useful to see that screen (or better, the console output
as text directly from the DRAC in an e-mail.)

I'm guessing this is a "cannot find root filesystem" issue; it's also
possible that you're missing the appropriate driver for however the
disks are attached to that R815.

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Re: How to download over https

[Nicolas George]

Le tridi 3 messidor, an CCXXIV, Dan Purgert a écrit :
> Apparently, since I've never seen that one can split a cipher block in
> that manner.   Have a link to the source?

No, I do not have a link. Or maybe yes, I have:

https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc793.txt

Relevant quote: "The TCP is able to transfer a continuous stream of octets".

Can you find a link to show that you can split an adjective between two
pages? No, you can not, because you will find explanations that tell you how
to split any word, not just adjectives.

> Knew it was one of the two, so much for 50/50 chances :)

You could have checked beforehand.

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Re: How to download over https

[Dan Purgert]

Nicolas George wrote:
>
> --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> Content-Disposition: inline
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> Le tridi 3 messidor, an CCXXIV, Dan Purgert a =E9crit=A0:
>> Because the TCP "stream" is still encapsulated in IP packets / Ethernet
>> frames, and you cannot simply "break" an encrypted block at some
>> arbitrary point in order to make it fit nicely in the packet / frame.
>
> Actually, this is exactly how it happens, you have to refresh your knowledge
> of TCP and the socket API. TCP offers applications a stream interface, the
> splitting into IP packets is done by the network and is invisible[*] to the
> application or, in our case the TLS implementation, and it can happen
> anywhere, including in the middle of cipher blocks.


Apparently, since I've never seen that one can split a cipher block in
that manner.   Have a link to the source?

> [snip]
> Also, just to correct you all the way, note that the block size of most
> current block ciphers is 16 octets, not 64.

Knew it was one of the two, so much for 50/50 chances :)


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Re: How to download over https

[Nicolas George]

Le tridi 3 messidor, an CCXXIV, Dan Purgert a écrit :
> Because the TCP "stream" is still encapsulated in IP packets / Ethernet
> frames, and you cannot simply "break" an encrypted block at some
> arbitrary point in order to make it fit nicely in the packet / frame.

Actually, this is exactly how it happens, you have to refresh your knowledge
of TCP and the socket API. TCP offers applications a stream interface, the
splitting into IP packets is done by the network and is invisible[*] to the
application or, in our case the TLS implementation, and it can happen
anywhere, including in the middle of cipher blocks.

Therefore, cryptography adds no bandwidth overhead for a continuous stream,
it only adds overhead when the streams stops for some amount of time due to
the last incomplete packet. For discontinuous streams made of very short
segments (VoIP, interactive typing), this overhead can become significant,
but all the layers of the networking stack add their overhead, and the
overhead due to crypto padding is rather in the low range, especially since
applications that work that way will usually optimize their protocol to fill
cipher blocks.

Also, just to correct you all the way, note that the block size of most
current block ciphers is 16 octets, not 64.

[*]: almost: remember bad interactions between the Nagle algorithm and
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Re: How to download over https

[Dan Ritter]

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 09:50:15PM +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote:
> 
> Admittedly, one of the main issues with HTTPS is the number of
> handshakes your hardware can do per second. That probably isn't a
> problem for the CD image download server that we are discussing here.
> But for (non-distributed) sites that serve a huge number of requests
> (think tens of thousands of requests per second) and (unlike Google) use
> off-the-shelf hardware and software that's a different issue.  I am
> working on such a site and our customer has to spend big bucks for our
> load balancers (F5 BIG IP) which terminate SSL connections in our
> environment.

In my experience, the majority of people buying F5's load balancers
are doing so because they don't have the expertise on staff to do
configuration management of commodity Linux boxes running either an ipvs
based system like ldirector or a user-mode loadbalancer like haproxy.

Rack unit for rack unit, a Xeon E5-26xx v4 with a pair of dual-port 10gig
ethernet cards will outperform F5 hardware costing 4-5x as much, while
being fully supported by Debian. Debian's record on patching security
holes is at least on par with and arguably better than F5's.

The decision to terminate SSL on a load balancer vs on web servers
in the backend is application-specific, but in many cases the backend
termination is superior.

Hundreds of thousands of requests per second can be handled on
such commodity hardware, properly configured.

In any case: most users in most situations are running low-intensity
servers on machines that are at least as good as a Raspberry Pi model B,
and thus using SSL on every applicable connection is a privacy
boon, rather than a performance worry.

-dsr-

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Re: jessie won't install/boot on a Dell Poweredge R815

[Michael Lange]

On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 12:39:34 +0100
Brian  wrote:

> > > > why is an upgrade not an option?
> > > 
> > > Upgrade to what? He wants to install Jessie, you can't get a newer
> > > stable Debian than that.
> > 
> > I guess he meant a dist-upgrade from an installed wheezy to jessie, if
> > jessie won't do a fresh install. 
> 
> I think the OP's attempt at a dist-upgrade was described in item 2 of
> his first mail.

Oh, yes, sure (^.^);

Ok, then a few questions to the OP that come to mind, since we still don't
seem to know why the jessie boot actually fails:
Did you try to boot different kernel versions, does the old kernel from
wheezy also fail to boot (just to rule out a problem of jessie's kernel
with that particular machine)?
What's the contents of your sources.list file? Sometimes I myself
experienced problems with a dist-upgrade when mirrors like backports or
multimedia where active during that process. (ok, since a fresh install
seems to fail also, that's probably not the issue here)
Maybe you could post the exact error messages that show up during the
failed boot?

Regards

Michael

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Re: How to download over https

[Dan Purgert]

Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Le 18/06/2016 18:19, Dan Purgert a écrit :
>> Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>>> Le 17/06/2016 21:52, Jochen Spieker a écrit :
 Pascal Hambourg:
>
> Hmm. I don't know how SSL works, but HTTPS runs on top of TCP so I doubt
> that it cares about IP packet size. The task of splitting the TCP payload
> stream into IP packets is done by the TCP layer.

 Sure, but if your encryption scheme wastes payload in yout packets you
 have more overhead for TCP/IP headers in each packet.
>>>
>>> Why would encryption increase the payload size ?
>>> Disk encryption with dm-crypt does not (except for the LUKS header).
>>
>> Because most encryption schemes use a standard blocksize (let's say 64
>> bytes), and those 'encrypted blocks' do not fit well into the max
>> payload size of a packet.
>>
>> More packets = more overhead.
>
> Again, why would whole encrypted blocks need to fit in packets ? TCP is 
> a stream-oriented transport protocol, so the encryption block size and 
> boundary does not matter.

Because the TCP "stream" is still encapsulated in IP packets / Ethernet
frames, and you cannot simply "break" an encrypted block at some
arbitrary point in order to make it fit nicely in the packet / frame.

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Re: jessie won't install/boot on a Dell Poweredge R815

[Brian]

On Mon 20 Jun 2016 at 13:06:30 +0200, Michael Lange wrote:

> On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 10:43:35 +0200
> Sven Hartge  wrote:
> 
> > deloptes  wrote:
> > > Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote:
> > 
> > >> I am attempting to install jessie on a Dell Poweredge R815. It has
> > >> been running wheezy reliably for years. And running squeeze reliably
> > >> for years before that. But no matter what I try it won't install or
> > >> boot.
> > 
> > > why is an upgrade not an option?
> > 
> > Upgrade to what? He wants to install Jessie, you can't get a newer
> > stable Debian than that.
> 
> I guess he meant a dist-upgrade from an installed wheezy to jessie, if
> jessie won't do a fresh install. 

I think the OP's attempt at a dist-upgrade was described in item 2 of
his first mail.

Re: jessie won't install/boot on a Dell Poweredge R815

[Michael Lange]

On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 10:43:35 +0200
Sven Hartge  wrote:

> deloptes  wrote:
> > Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote:
> 
> >> I am attempting to install jessie on a Dell Poweredge R815. It has
> >> been running wheezy reliably for years. And running squeeze reliably
> >> for years before that. But no matter what I try it won't install or
> >> boot.
> 
> > why is an upgrade not an option?
> 
> Upgrade to what? He wants to install Jessie, you can't get a newer
> stable Debian than that.

I guess he meant a dist-upgrade from an installed wheezy to jessie, if
jessie won't do a fresh install. 

Regards 

Michael


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Re: Strange Email Bounce

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Michael Milliman wrote:
> Situation not resolved

Hm. If not the reply by Charlie S would report the same effect,
i'd say somebody is picking on you personally. (Subscribe to list,
wait for mail from you, make up some pseudo bounce message.)


I tried to learn about the strange headers like
  Taap-Sender: ninjalabs+caf_=backup=ninjalabs@gmail.com
The only occurence found by Google is your initial post here
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/06/msg00858.html

The domain ninjalabs.com is at sale.

I could not yet verify that bounceio.net belongs to the spam
facilitator bounce.io:
  
http://www.atelier.net/en/trends/articles/bounceio-looking-turn-non-delivered-emails-advertising-goldmine_431691
but the described spam scheme matches Micheal's description.
The pattern
  postmas...@some-domain.bounceio.net
is not overly popular in Google.
The whole thing looks like a very unsuccessful and inapt attempt
to make money from annoying mail users.

It might well be that my mail provider knows bounceio.net
and drops their messages even before they reach the spam filter.
Or maybe they already threatened bounce.io with lawsuits.
(The profession of my mail provider is invited spammer. Of course
 they hate any freebie spammers.)


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: Strange Email Bounce

[Michael Milliman]

On 06/20/2016 04:32 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:

Hi,

Joe wrote:

There are algorithms, which are particularly keen on bounces,

Interestingly the bounce messages did not appear on the list but only
in the mailboxes of the original senders. So either the Debian list server
filtered them out or it did not get them at all.

Well, at least during the first 2 hours after sending mail to debian-user
i did not get a message from postmas...@ninjalabs-com.bounceio.net
or any other bounce indications.
Situation not resolvedjust got a bounce from the first response to 
this message.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas



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73's
Mike, WB5VQX

Re: Strange Email Bounce

[Michael Milliman]

On 06/20/2016 04:32 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:

Hi,

Joe wrote:

There are algorithms, which are particularly keen on bounces,

Interestingly the bounce messages did not appear on the list but only
in the mailboxes of the original senders. So either the Debian list server
filtered them out or it did not get them at all.

Well, at least during the first 2 hours after sending mail to debian-user
i did not get a message from postmas...@ninjalabs-com.bounceio.net
or any other bounce indications.


Hopefully, then, the situation has been resolved or has resolved itself.

Have a nice day :)

Thomas



--
73's
Mike, WB5VQX

Re: Strange Email Bounce

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Joe wrote:
> There are algorithms, which are particularly keen on bounces,

Interestingly the bounce messages did not appear on the list but only
in the mailboxes of the original senders. So either the Debian list server
filtered them out or it did not get them at all.

Well, at least during the first 2 hours after sending mail to debian-user
i did not get a message from postmas...@ninjalabs-com.bounceio.net 
or any other bounce indications.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: apache and clients

[Karl E. Jorgensen]

On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 02:49:42PM +0200, Pol Hallen wrote:
> Hi folks!
> 
> Inside a small lan (less 10 pc) I've a server with apache.
> 
> I've to install bind/dnsmasq to automatically resolve IP of apache or can I
> use clients's host file?
> 
> What's the easy/fast way to resolve IP of this server?

It depends on what the clients support...

If they support mDNS, then installing something like avahi-daemon on
the server will make it broadcast it's presence via mDNS, and
(assuming that clients understand mDNS) it can then be reach as
"servername.local" (where "servername" is your host name).

--
Hope this helps

Re: jessie won't install/boot on a Dell Poweredge R815

[Sven Hartge]

deloptes  wrote:
> Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote:

>> I am attempting to install jessie on a Dell Poweredge R815. It has
>> been running wheezy reliably for years. And running squeeze reliably
>> for years before that. But no matter what I try it won't install or
>> boot.

> why is an upgrade not an option?

Upgrade to what? He wants to install Jessie, you can't get a newer
stable Debian than that.

Grüße,
Sven.

-- 
Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.

Re: Strange Email Bounce

[Joe]

On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 10:04:17 +0200
"Thomas Schmitt"  wrote:


> I guess i now get such a mail, too.
> 
> The classical solution by the list admin is to remove the subscription
> which causes this mail reflection. Do we have list admins here ?
> 

There are algorithms, which are particularly keen on bounces, even
when the reason is the slow/nonexistent response of the list's own DNS
servers. If your mail server is down for a day, you will be
unsubscribed.

-- 
Joe

Re: open - resource temporarily unavailable

[tomas]

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On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 05:15:47PM +, Andrey wrote:
> Andrey  inp.nsk.su> writes:
> 
> > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 02:37:11PM +, Andrey wrote:
> > > >   tuxteam.de> writes:
> > > [...]
> > > Sorry I wasn't clear: I was just talking about the errno -- we still
> > > haven't an idea how it comes about. The manpage is but an approximation
> > > to reality 
> 
> you are right, it's  EAGAIN
> "open $currname w" -> couldn't open ../../current/south/S_DAQconnMod.txt:
> errorCode=POSIX EAGAIN {resource temporarily unavailable}

OK. So now we can be (more or less) sure it happens on open(2). Of course
I'd sleep better if we had a way to positively know there's nothing
happening behind our backs: perhaps Tcl is being extra clever[1] and
Tcl's open does a bit more than just libc's/syscall's open() and we
are seeing some spurious error from another system call: remember, error
paths in the code tend to be less tested...)

> although it's only confirmation to what has been already posted by
> Sven Joachim  gmx.de> writes:
> > On Linux, EWOULDBLOCK is #defined as EAGAIN in asm-generic/errno.h.
> > Also they are always the same in the glibc, regardless of the operating
> > system kernel.
> 
> But how can I find out why it happens ?
> Still have no hints how to proceed :(

I fear I can't suggest much more than I have already. Keeping to user
space (e.g. with the help of LD_PRELOAD) might help you find patterns
(is this always in some region of the file system, is there any
correlation to other logs in the system, etc.)

But since user space only sees the kernel returning from a syscall
with EAGAIN set, not "why", you'll end up trying to find out what
the kernel is "thinking" to pin-point the cause.

The more hints you collect (e.g. "Is it really open(2)?" "Is it always
open(2)?" "Which files?") the better your chances to navigate through
kernel code.

I'd start setting up a "trap" (either by a suitable strace/ltrace
incantation (easier) or with LD_PRELOAD (more difficult, and libc
specific) to just log those events in a couple of chosen apps where
you know from time to time. Try to extract as much info from those
events (strace would tell you what system calls, which parameters,
and so on).

Sorry to be so unspecific

regards
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Re: Strange Email Bounce

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Michael Milliman wrote:
> I also received a bounce notice which was somewhat disturbing.

Possibly a relative of the dreaded I-am-on-holiday reply mails.
Somebody subscribed to this list and some automat is now reporting
that the mail will not be looked at.
I guess i now get such a mail, too.

The classical solution by the list admin is to remove the subscription
which causes this mail reflection. Do we have list admins here ?


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Testing. AutomaticLogin. Switching users

[Debian maillists]

I haven't used this feature for more than a month, so I don't know
when it was changed in testing distribution.

Previously all was easy. There was text console under Alt-F1 to Alt-F6
and X-window session under Alt-F7.

Now, when AutomaticLogin is not set in gdm3 config, text consoles are
Alt-F3 to Alt-F6, X-windows is under Alt-F2, and under Alt-F1 stays login
screen ready to use. When you login as other user, his session is placed
under Alt-F4 and you can switch between both users. When you try to use
gnome "switch user" it does not work - there is no login screen after it,
only password query for current user.

When AutomaticLogin is set it looks differrent. X-windows session is under
Alt-F1 and text consoles under Alt-F2 to Alt-F6. Gnome "switch user" does not
work and there is no login screen anywhere.

Do anybody know, how can I switch users and use AutomaticLogin at the
same time?

PS1. Yes, I must use Ctrl-Alt-Fn and not Alt-Fn when in X.

PS2. I know, my English is not perfect ;)

Re: systemd and plymouth not caching LUKS passphrase

[Ramon Diaz-Uriarte]

Thank you. Yes, I replied with the idea of removing the reference but
... obviously I didn't. I'll wait a couple of days before trying again
(I don't want to look like a spammer).

Best,

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 1:54 AM, David Wright  wrote:
> (off-list)
>
> On Sun 19 Jun 2016 at 23:43:37 (+0200), Ramon Diaz-Uriarte wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
> [..]
>
> Some people may miss this posting because they're not interested
> in "jessie won't install/boot on a Dell Poweredge R815" under
> which subject you've threaded it.
>
> It's the header line
> References: 
> that's doing you no favours.
>
> Cheers,
> David.



-- 
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Structural Biology and Biocomputing Programme
Spanish National Cancer Centre (CNIO)
http://ligarto.org/rdiaz
Phone: +34-91-732-8000 ext. 3019
Fax: +-34-91-224-6972

Re: Strange Email Bounce

[Charlie S]

On Mon, 20 Jun 2016 02:38:41 -0500 Michael Milliman sent:

> I just replied to an email here on the debian-user list.  I have
> checked the debian-user list archive on debian.org, and the email was
> indeed received and posted to the list.  Nevertheless, I also
> received a bounce notice which was somewhat disturbing.  It reported
> the email bounced from bac...@ninjalabs.com. 

It was the same here.

Charlie

Strange Email Bounce

[Michael Milliman]

I just replied to an email here on the debian-user list.  I have checked 
the debian-user list archive on debian.org, and the email was indeed 
received and posted to the list.  Nevertheless, I also received a bounce 
notice which was somewhat disturbing.  It reported the email bounced 
from bac...@ninjalabs.com.  This bounce notice was in HTML format and 
was mostly an advert.  I am not an expert, or even very knowledgeable, 
about reading email headers, however it appears that the bounce was in 
response to the forward of my original message after having been 
received by the lists.debian.org server.


I am concerned about having received a "bounce notice" that was 
essentially spam as a result of a post to this list.  I am including 
(hopefully) a copy of the headers from the bounce notice as an 
attachment.  Any thoughts on this?? Should I (or perhaps someone else) 
be concerned about this, or is this a result of normal processes and an 
email provider with some questionable practices which is beyond the my 
control or that of the administrators of this list?


I'm probably showing my profound ignorance with those questions, and if 
so, please enlighten me.


Thanks.

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Mike, WB5VQX

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Re: CUPS under jessie

[Curt]

On 2016-06-20, Charlie S  wrote:
>
> On Debian Linux systems, have found HP printers are good and Epson
> printers to be good as well.
>
> Brother printers can be made to work, but it's onerous and not all the
> features work. Maybe it's just the models that I have tried to get
> working are not the models that Debian printing packages favour. So
> have installed the closest possible. Therefore not full featured.

Brother printer here. Works and worked out of the box without further
ado. HL-2030 laser. Had it for years and years and just keeps on keeping
on. I believe they do offer Linux drivers for their devices, too (which
is at least an effort in the right direction, although not needed for
this particular printer).

Ta ta for now,

C.


> Be well,
> Charlie
>
>


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