Re: good LDAP resources

[briand]

I have < 10 machines, and it should be < 10 machines for the forseeable future, 
so I think LDAP is probably too brute a force.

I'll look into NIS and some of the other tools people have mentioned.

Thanks very much for the help everyone !




Brian

Re: Debian 9

[JB]

Bonjour,

Stretch version tesing,
cela fait plusieurs semaine que je l'utilise
-pour une passerelle
-pour mysql/mariadb 
A+
JB

Re: Bloquear red a ejecutable

[Felix Perez]

El día 2 de marzo de 2017, 9:07, Pablo Daniel Estigarribia Davyt
 escribió:
> Hola,
>
> hace un rato leyendo un artículo X encontré este software:
> http://douaneapp.com/
>
> No lo probé pero el fin del mismo es: "allowing a user to control which
> applications can connect to the internet from their GNU/Linux computer."
>

Douane personal firewall for GNU/Linux,


> Creo que esto te puede servir.
>
>
>
> El mié., 22 feb. 2017 a las 17:18, Josu Lazkano ()
> escribió:
>>
>> Hola,
>>
>> Respondo para decir que funciona bien, lo unico malo es que solo
>> funciona como root:
>>
>> # unshare -n programa
>>
>> Un saludo.
>>
>> El día 22 de febrero de 2017, 8:12, Josu Lazkano
>>  escribió:
>> > He encontrado esto:
>> >
>> > unshare -n programa
>> >
>> > Ahora no estoy en casa y no lo puedo probar. Seria algo asi:
>> >
>> > unshare -n ping 8.8.8.8
>> >
>> > Saludos.
>> >
>> >
>> > El 21 feb. 2017 10:57 p. m., "Matias Mucciolo" 
>> > escribió:
>> >
>> > On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 10:26:45 PM Josu Lazkano wrote:
>> >> Muchas gracias a todos,
>> >>
>> >> Ya he localizado a donde se conecta, pero ahora me falta bloquear el
>> >> ejecutable.
>> >>
>> >> ¿Existe algun software para ello? Algo como "./bloquear programa"
>> >>
>> >> Muchas gracias por todo.
>> >>
>> >> Un saludo.
>> >
>> > todo depende de que binario estes hablando
>> > podes sacarle los permisos de ejecución y lectura
>> > para todos los usuarios.
>> > Si necesitas que algunos si pueden ejecutarlo
>> > vas a tener que hacer un grupo y poner ese
>> > grupo en el binario...tipicos permisos de unix.
>> > Tambien podes usar ACLs
>> >
>> > ahora lo que preguntas acerca de ./bloquear programa.
>> > yo al menos nunca vi algo como eso o no recuerdo en estos momentos.
>> >
>> > Tambien selinux se podria hacer algo pero ya es mas complicado..
>> > demasiado complicado y mucho tiempo de mantenimiento.
>> >
>> > Saludos
>> > Matias.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Josu Lazkano
>>
> --
> Pablo.



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Re: wifi mystere Resolu

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2017-03-02 11:54:36 +0100, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:
> On peut aussi se dispenser wicd,
> en créant une connexion wlan(x) dans le fichier :
> "/etc/network/interfaces".
> 
> Au boot, le système se loggue automatiquement à la WiFi
> indiquée dans "interfaces".
> 
> Sans doute moins pratique que wicd,
> mais ça peut dépanner dans certains cas.

C'est peut-être bien pour des réseaux wifi auxquels on se connecte
habituellement, mais pour un wifi public, wicd est préférable.

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Re: [OT] Alerta!!!!! fishing en esta lista!!!!

[rogger . ortega0405]

Son mas, curiosidades o un gran wtf! para estas epocas.

El 3 de marzo de 2017 2:46:07 AM GMT-05:00, alfon  escribió:
>Pues no es cosa de risa.
>
>> Por acá seguimos riendo de un compañero que dió su clave bancaria y
>le
>> vaciaron su cuenta.

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Re: Debian 9

[Yannick]

Le 02/03/2017 à 15:08, Yannick a écrit :

Bonjour,

Je vois que certains utilisent la nouvelle version.
Est-elle gelée et donc utilisable sans prendre de gros risques?
Si non ce gel est prévu pour quand?

Amitiés



Bonsoir,

Merci de vos réponses.

Amitiés

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Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd?

[Aquarius]

Maybe Devuan would meet your requirements of using the init system you would 
like to use. It is not on Stretch yet but on Jessie.

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3. Mar 2017 20:21 by wande...@fastmail.fm:


> On 2017-03-03 at 13:00, Reco wrote:
>
>>  Hi.
>>
>> On Fri, 03 Mar 2017 07:25:13 -0500
>> The Wanderer <>> wande...@fastmail.fm>> > wrote:
>>
>>> systemd as the init system is provided by the systemd-sysv package. I
>>> have that package pinned to never install in /etc/preferences:
>>>
>>> Package: systemd-sysv
>>> Pin: version *
>>> Pin-Priority: -1
>>>
>>> but this doesn't seem to be entirely effective in some cases, for
>>> reasons I've given up on trying to track down; still, it may be making a
>>> difference.
>
> I want to correct the record on this. When I wrote the above, I was
> conflating multiple cases. What I have seen be ineffective is previous
> pins, no longer present, against libpam-systemd and related packages; I
> don't recall ever seeing anything try to install systemd-sysv in
> violation of this pin.
>
> (There are enough legitimate complaints against the systemd ecosystem;
> there's no need to hurt the case against such things by throwing in
> baseless complaints on top of them.)
>
>> You may want to try somewhat different approach then:
>>
>> Package: systemd-sysv
>> Pin: release a=stable
>> Pin-Priority: -1
>
> I've noted this for later reference; if I ever see the
> trying-to-install-packages-pinned-at--1 behavior again, I'll try that
> variant.
>
> -- 
>The Wanderer
>
> The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
> progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw

Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

[Curt]

On 2017-03-03, Joe Pfeiffer  wrote:

>> I also hit (and mentioned in a previous post) the 130% limit. I got
>> there by going to TOOLS/OPTIONS/VIEW/SCALING. What effect did your font
>> manipulation have on the HELP files (because that's what we're talking
>> about here, actually).
>
> Hmmm, I just tried it (my version of LibreOffice is 1:5.2.5-1) and was
> able to scale well past that; I took it up to 200%.  Just a warning for
> others, the position of the spin button appears to be fixed; at 200%
> scaling the label covered almost all of it, and I was just barely able
> to click the "down" button to recover my usual 100% scale.
>
>

I have version 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0, so I guess you have an upscale version.

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Debian 8 After Restart Speakers Only Hiss

[Stephen P. Molnar]

This has happened before after a OS reinstallation, but this time I 
can't seem to diagnose the problem.


Her's some information about the system:

root@AbNormal:/home/comp# cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [SB ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
  HDA ATI SB at 0xfe30 irq 16
 1 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
  HDA NVidia at 0xfe08 irq 25
 2 [U0x46d0x807]: USB-Audio - USB Device 0x46d:0x807
  USB Device 0x46d:0x807 at usb-:00:12.2-4, 
high speed




01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 HDMI Audio Controller 
(rev a1)

Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 809f
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 25
Memory at fe08 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel

I have Master, Headphone, PCM, Front, Front Mic, Surround, Center, LFE, 
Side, Line-in and line Boost selected in the Audio Mixer - HDA ATI SB 
(Alsa mixer) selected and turned on.


The hissing is also present if I have headphones plugged in.

Suggestions for solutions will be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: No sound-inputs but sound recording FMIT

[The Wanderer]

On 2017-03-03 at 14:35, deloptes wrote:

> The Wanderer wrote:
> 
>> True, although someone who doesn't know that hitting Reply on an 
>> existing message threads the reply in under the existing message
>> is unlikely to even know what message headers are, much less know
>> how to do this. (Or be using a mail client which does permit
>> that.)
> 
> But why would you do this. You could simply press new and start a
> thread with your question

Because hitting New means you have to put in the To address, but hitting
Reply means the address is already there and you can just start typing
your message (and possibly delete the quoted text, change the Subject
line, et cetera).

Yes, this apparently is enough of a convenience factor to affect
people's behavior.

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persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
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Re: No sound-inputs but sound recording FMIT

[Ric Moore]

On 03/03/2017 08:53 AM, GiaThnYgeia wrote:
 I plugged

then in to 3 different machines, downloaded FMIT and run it.  Similar
results.


Is it in the repos?? Ric


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Re: No sound-inputs but sound recording FMIT

[deloptes]

The Wanderer wrote:

> True, although someone who doesn't know that hitting Reply on an
> existing message threads the reply in under the existing message is
> unlikely to even know what message headers are, much less know how to do
> this. (Or be using a mail client which does permit that.)

But why would you do this. You could simply press new and start a thread
with your question

Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd?

[The Wanderer]

On 2017-03-03 at 13:00, Reco wrote:

>   Hi.
> 
> On Fri, 03 Mar 2017 07:25:13 -0500
> The Wanderer  wrote:
> 
>> systemd as the init system is provided by the systemd-sysv package. I
>> have that package pinned to never install in /etc/preferences:
>> 
>> Package: systemd-sysv
>> Pin: version *
>> Pin-Priority: -1
>> 
>> but this doesn't seem to be entirely effective in some cases, for
>> reasons I've given up on trying to track down; still, it may be making a
>> difference.

I want to correct the record on this. When I wrote the above, I was
conflating multiple cases. What I have seen be ineffective is previous
pins, no longer present, against libpam-systemd and related packages; I
don't recall ever seeing anything try to install systemd-sysv in
violation of this pin.

(There are enough legitimate complaints against the systemd ecosystem;
there's no need to hurt the case against such things by throwing in
baseless complaints on top of them.)

> You may want to try somewhat different approach then:
> 
> Package: systemd-sysv
> Pin: release a=stable
> Pin-Priority: -1

I've noted this for later reference; if I ever see the
trying-to-install-packages-pinned-at--1 behavior again, I'll try that
variant.

-- 
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: No sound-inputs but sound recording FMIT

[deloptes]

GiaThnYgeia wrote:

> I don't see how the previous got linked to a previous thread so I am
> reposting with additional clarification.
> 
> OK, I did some testing on an other machine with a testing installation,
> downloaded FMIT (an instrument tuner that will pickup audio input/analog
> and tell you all kinds of stuff about the wave that is fed).
> Same exact behavior, hardware only lists two audio inputs and are both
> unplugged.  The lower the db threshold for sound recording the more
> apparent the sound becomes.  Each knock on the box shows corresponding
> amplification of that noise.
> 
> Ok, so I picked up 2-3 live debian based USB sticks I have.  I plugged
> then in to 3 different machines, downloaded FMIT and run it.  Similar
> results.  So it has nothing to do with my configuration of stuff.  I say
> if some software is picking up sound from your environment and records
> it when no inputs are plugged in I would call this a "security" issue
> not a malfunction.
> 
> What is there MORE to post so it can be reproduced?  Blank live debian
> installations adding FMIT in 3 machines Jessie + Stretch (one on UPS,
> one on mains-plug, on laptop) if you allow it to see a wide spectrum of
> frequencies it records noise (mostly hi-freq) and only hardware inputs
> are unplugged.  Where is the noise coming from?
> 
> It probably has nothing to do with the program itself but its
> dependencies and some code feeding in wrong data as audio input.  But it
> is actual sound

I was interested in your mainboard - perhaps it has integrated mic.

Do you have pavucontrol installed? Go to input devices and mute the mic

regards

Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd?

[The Wanderer]

On 2017-03-03 at 12:42, Patrick Bartek wrote:

> On Fri, 03 Mar 2017 07:25:13 -0500 The Wanderer
>  wrote:
> 
>> On 2017-03-02 at 13:01, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>> 
>>> I've been considering Stretch as a clean install or dist-upgrade
>>> of my aging Wheezy desktop setup as well as to install on a new 
>>> notebook I've yet to decide on.  I don't like systemd (why is 
>>> unimportant to this query). I plan to use some other init
>>> system, probably runit. So ...
>>> 
>>> Just how dependent has Stretch's system become on systemd?  I
>>> don't mean applications or GNOME, etc. with systemd dependency
>>> that I can choose not to install, but the system itself, the
>>> guts, the basics, the things and tools it needs to work
>>> properly.
>> 
>> There are two packages which are in some sense "part of" systemd
>> which you will not be able to avoid: libsystemd0 and udev.
> 
> udev I knew about.  (Also, udisks2.)  But there are udev
> alternatives that don't have any systemd dependency.  One is eudev
> from the Gentoo people, IIRC. It's suppose to be platform
> independent..

Yeah, but last I checked, those weren't available in Debian. (Although
"last I checked" was months ago at minimum, so it's possible I could
have missed an ITP message for such a package.)

>> libsystemd0 is the "detect at runtime whether systemd is present" 
>> library; it's what makes it possible for programs to use systemd
>> when it's there, but still work when it isn't. It might
>> _technically_ be possible to avoid this, but one of the packages
>> which depends on this is xserver-xorg-core, so for most systemd
>> that will not be a practical option.
> 
> Had heard about that dependency.  I'm sure there are others that have
> yet to be discovered.  That's one of the reasons I dislike systemd.

Frankly, I have basically zero problems with this. There are definitely
advantages to building against systemd for those who _do_ have it, and
the alternatives to a dependency library like this would be "one set of
X packages built against systemd, one not" or "X packages built only
against systemd; if you want ones that aren't, compile it yourself".
Multiplied by all the _other_ packages that depend on libsystemd0.

I think a wrapper/stub library like this is probably the best solution.

>> udev wasn't originally a systemd thing, but is now maintained by
>> the systemd people, and apparently shipped from the same source
>> package (or at least I can't see any other reason why changes to
>> udev would appear in apt-listchanges under the name of "systemd").
>> 
>> Those are the only systemd-related packages on my current primary 
>> machine (unless you count systemd-shim, which exists specifically
>> to make avoiding systemd itself possible), and I've been running it
>> with no apparent related issues for pretty much the entire time
>> since the systemd transition.
> 
> Know about systemd-shim from my tests with Jessie..  Read some time 
> ago, it was to be dropped from Stretch.

It's orphaned and unmaintained (even upstream, AFAIK), but it's still
present in stretch as of this morning; I don't recall hearing word that
it was going to be dropped entirely.

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persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
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Fwd: Which of C compiler must be downloaded for wine -2.2 ?Fwd: comparsion of usability wine 2.0 2,2

[swjatoslaw gerus]

  Gentlemen

  Which of C compiler must be downloaded for wine -2.2
and how ?

  Relevant comment would appreciated 
##
su 

apt-get install gcc 


Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Package gcc is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

E: Package 'gcc' has no installation candidate
#

./tools/wineinstall

Running configure...

checking build system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type... x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... no
checking for gcc... no
checking for cc... no
checking for cl.exe... no
configure: error: in `/home/rr/Downloads/wine-2.2':
configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
See `config.log' for more details

Configure failed, aborting install.
##

more config.log 

This file contains any messages produced by compilers while
running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake.

It was created by Wine configure 2.2, which was
generated by GNU Autoconf 2.69.  Invocation command line was

  $ ./configure 

## - ##
## Platform. ##
## - ##

hostname = rr
uname -m = x86_64
uname -r = 4.9.0-kali2-amd64
uname -s = Linux
uname -v = #1 SMP Debian 4.9.10-1kali1 (2017-02-20)

/usr/bin/uname -p = unknown
/bin/uname -X = unknown

/bin/arch  = unknown
/usr/bin/arch -k   = unknown
/usr/convex/getsysinfo = unknown
/usr/bin/hostinfo  = unknown
/bin/machine   = unknown
/usr/bin/oslevel   = unknown
/bin/universe  = unknown
PATH: /usr/local/bin
PATH: /usr/bin
PATH: /bin
PATH: /usr/local/games
PATH: /usr/games


## --- ##
## Core tests. ##
## --- ##

configure:3730: checking build system type
configure:3744: result: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
configure:3764: checking host system type
configure:3777: result: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
configure:3807: checking whether make sets $(MAKE)
configure:3833: result: no
configure:3886: checking for gcc
configure:3916: result: no
configure:3979: checking for cc
configure:4026: result: no
configure:4082: checking for cl.exe
configure:4112: result: no
configure:4136: error: in `/home/rr/Downloads/wine-2.2':
configure:4138: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
See `config.log' for more details



1. wine 2.0   kali 20.02.2017 release   life and HD 

/etc/apt$ more  sources.list

> > deb http://http.kali.org/kali kali-rolling main contrib non-free
> > deb-src http://http.kali.org/kali kali-rolling main contrib non-free
...
 dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt update
 apt install wine-development
 apt-get install wine32-development

downloaded multiple 100 mb 
download pokerstars.exe 110 mb 

 wine pokerstars.exework from start life and on hd 

stated that  need space  350 mb ,have only 270 mb   (by pokerstars
windows pokerstars.exe)
donwloaded pokerstars .exe   ...in Programm Files (86)  -downloaded more
as 1 gb 
#

 But work life and  from hd  

(msi was downloaded  ,programm  stated that not found gecko  ,but work )

2.   wine 2.2new installation Kali (can not clean from wine 2.0 
with rm -rf apt purge ,remove &
installed os  second time )

tar.zx tar -xvJf   ... created  in   ~/Download   wine-2.2 
directory 

Started install from README file suggest  in equal directory with
   
 ./tools/wineinstall


 asked  about  root   

 tested  with user id ,su  from user id  ,and root system start after
 reboot 

 asked about c compiler 

tryed download   apt-get install gcc 

answer - E: compiler is old 


 What msut be made  ?
##

 Which kind of C compiler must be downloaded  ?
#

 Must be edited /etc/apt/sources.list   ?



Or which  kind of another installation of wine 2.2 exist ?
##


 Relevant comment would appreciated 

 Wich good mood   ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDMcWSYali8


3. Tor 7 browser (can not beee started with root )   downloaded 

tar -xJvf   ...

a. work from start in  os with login userid 
hd video and sound  work
###

b.  work from start  in os with  login root 

after  
root 
xhost local : user 
su userid 
tor started HD video work, but without sound 
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Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd?

[Reco]

Hi.

On Fri, 03 Mar 2017 07:25:13 -0500
The Wanderer  wrote:

> systemd as the init system is provided by the systemd-sysv package. I
> have that package pinned to never install in /etc/preferences:
> 
> Package: systemd-sysv
> Pin: version *
> Pin-Priority: -1
> 
> but this doesn't seem to be entirely effective in some cases, for
> reasons I've given up on trying to track down; still, it may be making a
> difference.

You may want to try somewhat different approach then:

Package: systemd-sysv
Pin: release a=stable
Pin-Priority: -1

Reco

Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd?

[Patrick Bartek]

On Fri, 03 Mar 2017 07:25:13 -0500 The Wanderer 
wrote:

> On 2017-03-02 at 13:01, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> 
> > I've been considering Stretch as a clean install or dist-upgrade of
> > my aging Wheezy desktop setup as well as to install on a new
> > notebook I've yet to decide on.  I don't like systemd (why is
> > unimportant to this query). I plan to use some other init system,
> > probably runit. So ...
> > 
> > Just how dependent has Stretch's system become on systemd?  I don't 
> > mean applications or GNOME, etc. with systemd dependency that I can 
> > choose not to install, but the system itself, the guts, the basics,
> > the things and tools it needs to work properly.
> 
> There are two packages which are in some sense "part of" systemd which
> you will not be able to avoid: libsystemd0 and udev.

udev I knew about.  (Also, udisks2.)  But there are udev alternatives
that don't have any systemd dependency.  One is eudev from the
Gentoo people, IIRC. It's suppose to be platform independent..

> libsystemd0 is the "detect at runtime whether systemd is present"
> library; it's what makes it possible for programs to use systemd when
> it's there, but still work when it isn't. It might _technically_ be
> possible to avoid this, but one of the packages which depends on this
> is xserver-xorg-core, so for most systemd that will not be a practical
> option.

Had heard about that dependency.  I'm sure there are others
that have yet to be discovered.  That's one of the reasons I dislike
systemd.

> udev wasn't originally a systemd thing, but is now maintained by the
> systemd people, and apparently shipped from the same source package
> (or at least I can't see any other reason why changes to udev would
> appear in apt-listchanges under the name of "systemd").
> 
> Those are the only systemd-related packages on my current primary
> machine (unless you count systemd-shim, which exists specifically to
> make avoiding systemd itself possible), and I've been running it with
> no apparent related issues for pretty much the entire time since the
> systemd transition.

Know about systemd-shim from my tests with Jessie..  Read some time
ago, it was to be dropped from Stretch.

> 
> I do have to keep an eye on 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and on normal
> package installs to make sure that nothing pulls in libpam-systemd
> and then systemd automatically - but it's been quite a while since
> anything tried to do that, and even that would only get systemd as a
> "normal" daemon rather than as the init system.
> 
> systemd as the init system is provided by the systemd-sysv package. I
> have that package pinned to never install in /etc/preferences:
> 
> Package: systemd-sysv
> Pin: version *
> Pin-Priority: -1
> 
> but this doesn't seem to be entirely effective in some cases, for
> reasons I've given up on trying to track down; still, it may be
> making a difference.

All that's why I consider systemd so insidious.  It forces you to use it
whether you want to or not.  Something Microsoft has been doing to
their users for decades. ;-)

Thanks for all the great info.

B

Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

[Joe Pfeiffer]

Curt  writes:

> On 2017-03-03, GiaThnYgeia  wrote:
>
>> I will top-post as it is meaningless to comment specifically.
>> I do have 5 and have not used base since I don't know when, on this
>> installation it was firsts.  I am made fun of having large fonts as I
>> refuse to wear glasses and my eyes get irritated trying to read small
>
> Is it because of the well-known optician conspiracy (and its attempt to
> get us to see the world rose-colored) or is it purely out of vanity that
> you refuse to make a spectacles out of yourself?
>
>> print.  I adjusted the menus, the cells, and everything else I can find
>> straight out of the LibreB menu for fonts.  And that 130% was
>> ridiculously exceeded on purpose to HUMONGOUS.
>
>
>> So, I am clueless to what you are saying!  Maybe it is some desktop
>> environment that is blocking the adjustment of fonts?
>
> I also hit (and mentioned in a previous post) the 130% limit. I got
> there by going to TOOLS/OPTIONS/VIEW/SCALING. What effect did your font
> manipulation have on the HELP files (because that's what we're talking
> about here, actually).

Hmmm, I just tried it (my version of LibreOffice is 1:5.2.5-1) and was
able to scale well past that; I took it up to 200%.  Just a warning for
others, the position of the spin button appears to be fixed; at 200%
scaling the label covered almost all of it, and I was just barely able
to click the "down" button to recover my usual 100% scale.

Re: [OT] Alerta!!!!! fishing en esta lista!!!!

[Carlos Manuel Escalona Villeda]

Cuando te han quitado las ganas de sonreir es justo cuando debes reir a
carcajadas.

Cuestión cultural, acostumbramos reinos de nuestras desgracias además de
las ajenas, por eso dicen que somos uno de los países más felices del mundo
jajjaja

El vie., 3 de mar. de 2017 a la(s) 01:46, alfon 
escribió:

> Pues no es cosa de risa.
>
> > Por acá seguimos riendo de un compañero que dió su clave bancaria y le
> > vaciaron su cuenta.
>
>

Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd?

[Patrick Bartek]

On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 21:47:05 +0100  wrote:

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> 
> On Thu, Mar 02, 2017 at 10:01:17AM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > I've been considering Stretch as a clean install or dist-upgrade of
> > my aging Wheezy desktop setup as well as to install on a new
> > notebook I've yet to decide on.  I don't like systemd (why is
> > unimportant to this query). I plan to use some other init system,
> > probably runit.  So ...
> > 
> > Just how dependent has Stretch's system become on systemd?  I don't
> > mean applications or GNOME, etc. with systemd dependency that I can
> > choose not to install, but the system itself, the guts, the basics,
> > the things and tools it needs to work properly.
> 
> I think it's pretty unproblematic. Just the other day there was a
> call for testers (by Ian Jackson, no less) for a new SysV init
> version targeted at testing (stretch).

Read about that.  Wonder how "modern" the new SysV will be.  Or will
it be just more chrome and colored lights on the old Model T?.

> I think things didn't change dramatically since Jessie:
> 
>   
> http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/How_to_stay_with_sysvinit_in_Debian_Jessie.html
>   
> http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_a_Debian_jessie/sid_installation
>   http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Debian_Stretch

Thanks.  Read those (or similar) shortly after Jessie debuted.  Did a
trial install (terminal only) of Jessie in VirtualBox and converted it
to sysvinit with no glitches.  Even added runit for supervision, but
not runit-init,  But never upgraded. My very custom install of Wheezy
was working fine at the time, and I saw no need.

> (and many more). Ignore the "remove" bit if you're installing from
> scratch: you can do the apt-pinning thing even before systemd gets
> installed (at least I remember that from my last install).

Preventing systemd from installing at all would be ideal.  And from
what I've read as far as systemdinit, this is possible, but it seems
there's always going to be a systemd library or two hanging around
due to SYSTEM dependencies. I've even heard X has such a dependency.
Insidious.

> (And btw: it might be a good chance to give Ian feedback on how it
> went, hint, hint :)

Good suggestion.  I hadn't considered it..

Thanks for your input.

B

Re: changer le port dans pure-ftpd

[Daniel Huhardeaux]

Le 03/03/2017 à 17:14, bernard.schoenac...@free.fr a écrit :

bonjour,

je fais quelques recherches et je n'arrive pas à trouver l'emplacement des 
ports à écouter
pour pure-ftpd ...

je recherche à remplacer le port 21 part 221

slt
bernard

echo ",221" > /etc/pure-ftpd/conf/Bind ; avant la virgule on peut aussi 
fixer l'adresse IP à écouter


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Re: AMD Ryzen support for Debian Stretch?

[Frank Miles]

On Fri, 03 Mar 2017 00:50:01 +0100, Janis Hamme wrote:

> Now that AMD's Ryzen CPUs have been released, I'm wondering if they'll
> be supported by the upcoming Debian Stretch release. I'm a bit concerned
> as Stretch comes with Kernel 3.9 but Ryzen support was added to 4.10.
> 
> Is Debian known to backport hardware support from newer kernel versions?
> Otherwise a custom or backports kernel would be required from the start.
> Ryzen CPUs could become quite popular during the lifespan of Debian
> Strech. It seems to perform fine for Linux applications so far:
> 
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article=ryzen-1800x-linux=1
> 
> Regards
> Janis

It's a common occurrence (but hard to predict).  Example: the current stable
Debian can use a backported kernel (I'm doing this on my home desktop).

Re: changer le port dans pure-ftpd

[daniel huhardeaux]

Le 03/03/2017 à 17:14, bernard.schoenac...@free.fr a écrit :

bonjour,

je fais quelques recherches et je n'arrive pas à trouver l'emplacement des 
ports à écouter
pour pure-ftpd ...

je recherche à remplacer le port 21 part 221

slt
bernard

echo ",221" > /etc/pure-ftpd/conf/Bind ; avant la virgule on peut aussi 
fixer l'adresse IP à écouter


--
Daniel

changer le port dans pure-ftpd

[bernard . schoenacker]

bonjour,

je fais quelques recherches et je n'arrive pas à trouver l'emplacement des 
ports à écouter
pour pure-ftpd ...

je recherche à remplacer le port 21 part 221

slt
bernard

"Unir" dos discos duros por medio de LVM

[cuenta para bajar]

Hola.

Quizá el título no sea tan descriptivo para el problema que quiero
resolver. Lo describo a continuación:

Tengo dos discos duros conectados a una workstation. Los dos están
configurados usando LVM. Tienen una estructura como la siguiente:

pvscan:
  PV /dev/sda1   VG vgroot  lvm2 [465.76 GiB / 0free]
  PV /dev/sda2   VG vgroot  lvm2 [465.76 GiB / 0free]

lvscan:
  ACTIVE'/dev/vgroot/root' [25.00 GiB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/vgroot/swap' [4.00 GiB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/vgroot/home' [436.76 GiB] inherit

Los datos estaban distribuidos entre los dos discos.

Sin embargo hubo la necesidad de actualizar la versión de Ubuntu que tiene
instalado. Lamentablemente no tengo el control de este tipo de
instalaciones o actualizaciones por lo que tuve que mover todos los datos a
un solo disco porque el departamento de IT de la organización donde trabajo
reinstalan todo usando una imagen automática que borra todos los datos y
reconfigura las particiones a como ya está configurada.
Moví los datos a un solo disco usando el comando: pvmove, siguiendo los
pasos mostrados aquí:

https://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/Cluster_Logical_Volume_Manager/move_exist_ex4.html

Una vez que movi todo a un solo disco, llamémoslo disco1, pude llevar la
workstation para que reinstalaran todo y los datos quedaron respaldados en
el disco2.

El problema que tengo ahora es que ahora el disco1, ya con el nuevo Ubuntu
instalado, tiene esta estructura:

pvscan:
  PV /dev/sda1   VG vgroot  lvm2 [465.76 GiB / 0free]

lvscan:
  ACTIVE'/dev/vgroot/root' [25.00 GiB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/vgroot/swap' [4.00 GiB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/vgroot/home' [436.76 GiB] inherit

Y el disco2 (que tiene los datos que respaldé) tiene la siguiente:

pvscan:
  PV /dev/sda2   VG vgroot  lvm2 [465.76 GiB / 0free]

lvscan:
  ACTIVE'/dev/vgroot/root' [25.00 GiB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/vgroot/swap' [4.00 GiB] inherit
  ACTIVE'/dev/vgroot/home' [436.76 GiB] inherit

Como se ve, tienen exactamente la misma estructura. Por lo que mi pregunta
es, ¿cómo puedo "unir" las particiones o los "volume group" de manera que
pueda usar el nuevo ubuntu (instalado en el /dev/vgroot/root del disco1)
pero conservar los datos de /dev/vgroot/home del disco2?

Gracias de antemano.

Saludos.


-- 
El Archivero

Re: No sound-inputs but sound recording FMIT

[Frank]

Op 03-03-17 om 14:15 schreef Greg Wooledge:

Or manually remove the In-Reply-To: header, if your mail user agent
permits you to do this.


Don't forget the References: header.

Regards,
Frank

No sound-inputs but sound recording FMIT

[GiaThnYgeia]

I don't see how the previous got linked to a previous thread so I am
reposting with additional clarification.

OK, I did some testing on an other machine with a testing installation,
downloaded FMIT (an instrument tuner that will pickup audio input/analog
and tell you all kinds of stuff about the wave that is fed).
Same exact behavior, hardware only lists two audio inputs and are both
unplugged.  The lower the db threshold for sound recording the more
apparent the sound becomes.  Each knock on the box shows corresponding
amplification of that noise.

Ok, so I picked up 2-3 live debian based USB sticks I have.  I plugged
then in to 3 different machines, downloaded FMIT and run it.  Similar
results.  So it has nothing to do with my configuration of stuff.  I say
if some software is picking up sound from your environment and records
it when no inputs are plugged in I would call this a "security" issue
not a malfunction.

What is there MORE to post so it can be reproduced?  Blank live debian
installations adding FMIT in 3 machines Jessie + Stretch (one on UPS,
one on mains-plug, on laptop) if you allow it to see a wide spectrum of
frequencies it records noise (mostly hi-freq) and only hardware inputs
are unplugged.  Where is the noise coming from?

It probably has nothing to do with the program itself but its
dependencies and some code feeding in wrong data as audio input.  But it
is actual sound



-- 
 "The most violent element in society is ignorance" rEG

Re: CD Audio - sometimes provided as vfs by the kernel?

[Jonathan Dowland]

On Thu, Mar 02, 2017 at 09:57:23PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> Let us know, I'm curious :-)

Me too, this is remarkable.
 

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Re: No sound-inputs but sound recording FMIT

[The Wanderer]

On 2017-03-03 at 08:15, Greg Wooledge wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 07:13:37AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
> 
>> In order to start a new thread, you have to create the E-mail from
>> scratch, e.g. by using a "New Mail" button or the equivalent.
>> Creating an E-mail by replying to an existing message puts the new
>> message into an existing thread, even if the Subject line is
>> changed.
> 
> Or manually remove the In-Reply-To: header, if your mail user agent
> permits you to do this.

True, although someone who doesn't know that hitting Reply on an
existing message threads the reply in under the existing message is
unlikely to even know what message headers are, much less know how to do
this. (Or be using a mail client which does permit that.)

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: No sound-inputs but sound recording FMIT

[Greg Wooledge]

On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 07:13:37AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
> In order to start a new thread, you have to create the E-mail from
> scratch, e.g. by using a "New Mail" button or the equivalent. Creating
> an E-mail by replying to an existing message puts the new message into
> an existing thread, even if the Subject line is changed.

Or manually remove the In-Reply-To: header, if your mail user agent
permits you to do this.

Re: Stretch & Safely Replacing systemd?

[The Wanderer]

On 2017-03-02 at 13:01, Patrick Bartek wrote:

> I've been considering Stretch as a clean install or dist-upgrade of
> my aging Wheezy desktop setup as well as to install on a new notebook
> I've yet to decide on.  I don't like systemd (why is unimportant to
> this query). I plan to use some other init system, probably runit.
> So ...
> 
> Just how dependent has Stretch's system become on systemd?  I don't 
> mean applications or GNOME, etc. with systemd dependency that I can 
> choose not to install, but the system itself, the guts, the basics,
> the things and tools it needs to work properly.

There are two packages which are in some sense "part of" systemd which
you will not be able to avoid: libsystemd0 and udev.

libsystemd0 is the "detect at runtime whether systemd is present"
library; it's what makes it possible for programs to use systemd when
it's there, but still work when it isn't. It might _technically_ be
possible to avoid this, but one of the packages which depends on this is
xserver-xorg-core, so for most systemd that will not be a practical
option.

udev wasn't originally a systemd thing, but is now maintained by the
systemd people, and apparently shipped from the same source package (or
at least I can't see any other reason why changes to udev would appear
in apt-listchanges under the name of "systemd").

Those are the only systemd-related packages on my current primary
machine (unless you count systemd-shim, which exists specifically to
make avoiding systemd itself possible), and I've been running it with no
apparent related issues for pretty much the entire time since the
systemd transition.


I do have to keep an eye on 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and on normal package
installs to make sure that nothing pulls in libpam-systemd and then
systemd automatically - but it's been quite a while since anything tried
to do that, and even that would only get systemd as a "normal" daemon
rather than as the init system.

systemd as the init system is provided by the systemd-sysv package. I
have that package pinned to never install in /etc/preferences:

Package: systemd-sysv
Pin: version *
Pin-Priority: -1

but this doesn't seem to be entirely effective in some cases, for
reasons I've given up on trying to track down; still, it may be making a
difference.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: No sound-inputs but sound recording FMIT

[The Wanderer]

On 2017-03-03 at 05:46, deloptes wrote:

> GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> 
>> It probably has nothing to do with the program itself but its 
>> dependencies and some code feeding in wrong data as audio input.
>> But it is actual sound
> 
> you have to provide information so that it may be reproduced. Please
> open another thread. The information you provided so far is a user
> story and does not help further.

To clarify this, since many people in the modern era apparently don't
realize it:

Changing the Subject line on a reply E-mail does not make that E-mail be
the first mail in a new thread. (Although some E-mail clients, such as
Outlook, will probably display it as if it was.)

In order to start a new thread, you have to create the E-mail from
scratch, e.g. by using a "New Mail" button or the equivalent. Creating
an E-mail by replying to an existing message puts the new message into
an existing thread, even if the Subject line is changed.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: wifi mystere Resolu

[G2PC]

Le 02/03/2017 à 19:32, Jean Bernon a écrit :
>
>
>
> A tester, voir si utiliser wicd peut aider avec mes
> difficultés de
> routage quand j'utilise un portable android comme relais
> pour le wifi.
> J'ai bien une connexion au wifi, mais, pas d'internet.
>
> Est-ce que ça veut dire que sur ta Debian tu peux te connecter
> à certains réseaux wifi mais pas à d'autres, en particulier
> pas au réseau créé par l'Android que tu vois, mais auquel tu
> ne peux pas te connecter ? Dans ce cas as-tu regardé les
> messages du log correspondant à la tentative de connexion à ce
> réseau particulier ? 
>
>
>
> Ce n'est donc pas le problème évoqué au début de cette
> discussion, qui
> évoquait que certains wifi n'apparaissaient pas, il me semble.
>
>
>
> Je pense que c'est bien ça, sur mon Linux, je vois bien les
> réseaux Wifi, mais, certains ne me donnent pas accès à internet
> quand je suis connecté.
> Effectivement, le réseau partagé par android permet la connection
> au réseau wifi, mais, pour internet je ne peux pas naviguer. Je
> suis donc connecté au wifi, mais, sans internet.
>
> Je n'ai pas regardé les logs de tentative de connexion. Je n'ai
> pas encore cherché à les trouver.
> Merci de ton avis, je vais tenter de trouver ça, dans les jours à
> venir.
>
> Est-ce que le problème ne peut pas aussi venir de l'Android ? Tu
> pourrais essayer avec un autre Android.

Je note :
Trouver les logs de tentative de connexion au réseau wifi android.
Tester avec un autre appareil android.

En stand by pour le moment. Je test cela prochainement. Merci pour le
complément d'informations.

Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

[Richard Owlett]

On 03/03/2017 04:15 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

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On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 08:45:00AM +, GiaThnYgeia wrote:

I will top-post as it is meaningless to comment specifically.

I do have 5 and have not used base since I don't know when, on this
installation it was firsts.  I am made fun of having large fonts as I
refuse to wear glasses and my eyes get irritated trying to read small
print.  I adjusted the menus, the cells, and everything else I can find
straight out of the LibreB menu for fonts.  And that 130% was
ridiculously exceeded on purpose to HUMONGOUS.
So, I am clueless to what you are saying!  Maybe it is some desktop
environment that is blocking the adjustment of fonts?


I'm not the office suite guy. I typically keep LO around for the case
someone throws an Excel (or worse) at me, which I convert to some
text format as quickly as possible.

I tried myself (LO 5) and didn't find a way to change the menu font
(at all). Then I did some research and found the links (all in the
libreoffice.org namespace, so one might put some trust on them), which
I repeat here for your reading convenience:


Re the menu font: perhaps those urls are relevant:

  
https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/12658/libre-40-how-to-change-the-application-menu-fonts/
  https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/8954/change-the-default-font/
  https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/8954/change-the-default-font/


If I understand things correctly, 4.x had some built-in functionality
to tweak the menu's font (limited to the range 80%..130%) -- that
seems to be Richard's problem, while 5.x (that's your and my case)
delegates this functionality to the toolkit's theme machinery, which
I assume to be more or less broken in my box (I don't care very
much about that), but working in yours (you possibly do).

So all is well, but given the links above, it doesn't seem the LO
team is willing to change anything: "works as intended", and Richard
either uses his magnifying glass or another software.



I suspect my problems revolve around still being on Jessie's LO 4.x and 
possibly MATE as my DE. As I have limited bandwidth that won't be 
changing until Stretch is released and I can purchase a set of DVD's.


As to the database, some research has shown that Tcl/Tk, which I already 
need, can handle my particular use case.

Re: No sound-inputs but sound recording FMIT

[deloptes]

GiaThnYgeia wrote:

> It probably has nothing to do with the program itself but its
> dependencies and some code feeding in wrong data as audio input.  But it
> is actual sound

you have to provide information so that it may be reproduced. Please open
another thread. The information you provided so far is a user story and
does not help further.

regards

Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

[tomas]

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On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 08:45:00AM +, GiaThnYgeia wrote:
> I will top-post as it is meaningless to comment specifically.
>
> I do have 5 and have not used base since I don't know when, on this
> installation it was firsts.  I am made fun of having large fonts as I
> refuse to wear glasses and my eyes get irritated trying to read small
> print.  I adjusted the menus, the cells, and everything else I can find
> straight out of the LibreB menu for fonts.  And that 130% was
> ridiculously exceeded on purpose to HUMONGOUS.
> So, I am clueless to what you are saying!  Maybe it is some desktop
> environment that is blocking the adjustment of fonts?

I'm not the office suite guy. I typically keep LO around for the case
someone throws an Excel (or worse) at me, which I convert to some
text format as quickly as possible.

I tried myself (LO 5) and didn't find a way to change the menu font
(at all). Then I did some research and found the links (all in the
libreoffice.org namespace, so one might put some trust on them), which
I repeat here for your reading convenience:

> > Re the menu font: perhaps those urls are relevant:
> > 
> >   
> > https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/12658/libre-40-how-to-change-the-application-menu-fonts/
> >   https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/8954/change-the-default-font/
> >   https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/8954/change-the-default-font/

If I understand things correctly, 4.x had some built-in functionality
to tweak the menu's font (limited to the range 80%..130%) -- that
seems to be Richard's problem, while 5.x (that's your and my case)
delegates this functionality to the toolkit's theme machinery, which
I assume to be more or less broken in my box (I don't care very
much about that), but working in yours (you possibly do).

So all is well, but given the links above, it doesn't seem the LO
team is willing to change anything: "works as intended", and Richard
either uses his magnifying glass or another software.

All is well, kinda.

regards
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Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

[Curt]

On 2017-03-03, GiaThnYgeia  wrote:

> I will top-post as it is meaningless to comment specifically.
> I do have 5 and have not used base since I don't know when, on this
> installation it was firsts.  I am made fun of having large fonts as I
> refuse to wear glasses and my eyes get irritated trying to read small

Is it because of the well-known optician conspiracy (and its attempt to
get us to see the world rose-colored) or is it purely out of vanity that
you refuse to make a spectacles out of yourself?

> print.  I adjusted the menus, the cells, and everything else I can find
> straight out of the LibreB menu for fonts.  And that 130% was
> ridiculously exceeded on purpose to HUMONGOUS.


> So, I am clueless to what you are saying!  Maybe it is some desktop
> environment that is blocking the adjustment of fonts?

I also hit (and mentioned in a previous post) the 130% limit. I got
there by going to TOOLS/OPTIONS/VIEW/SCALING. What effect did your font
manipulation have on the HELP files (because that's what we're talking
about here, actually).

-- 
"It might be a vision--of a shell, of a wheelbarrow, of a fairy kingdom on the
far side of the hedge; or it might be the glory of speed; no one knew." --Mrs.
Ramsay, speculating on why her little daughter might be dashing about, in "To
the Lighthouse," by Virginia Woolf.

Re: A minimal relational database in Debian

[GiaThnYgeia]

I will top-post as it is meaningless to comment specifically.
I do have 5 and have not used base since I don't know when, on this
installation it was firsts.  I am made fun of having large fonts as I
refuse to wear glasses and my eyes get irritated trying to read small
print.  I adjusted the menus, the cells, and everything else I can find
straight out of the LibreB menu for fonts.  And that 130% was
ridiculously exceeded on purpose to HUMONGOUS.
So, I am clueless to what you are saying!  Maybe it is some desktop
environment that is blocking the adjustment of fonts?

StretchAMD64lXde

Katrin

to...@tuxteam.de:
> On Wed, Mar 01, 2017 at 08:53:58AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> On 03/01/2017 08:19 AM, Bob Weber wrote:
>>> Unacceptable. It affects the size of _everything_, not just font size.
 I collided with with a fatal side-effect. I tried a too large factor.
 Now the "accept" button is now off screen and *NOT* accessible.
 Don't see any option short of reinstall to resolve.
 I consider LibreOffice *DOA*

>>> Try holding down the alt key and use the left mouse button.  It should 
>>> allow you
>>> to move the window anywhere on the screen so you can see the button that is 
>>> off
>>> screen.
> 
> Re the menu font: perhaps those urls are relevant:
> 
>   
> https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/12658/libre-40-how-to-change-the-application-menu-fonts/
>   https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/8954/change-the-default-font/
>   https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/8954/change-the-default-font/
> 
> In a nutshell: yes, version 4 allows resizing the menu font, up to 130%,
> not more; version 5 uses the menu font theme from the environment (no
> way to resize explicitly: change the theme).
> 
> It seems probable that the bug report will be met with a WONTFIX :-(
> 
> regards
> -- tomás
> 

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