Re: Sound problems (mpd, mpv mainly)

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Dan Hitt  wrote:
> /etc/debian_version says '9.0' for me, and i think it is called
> 'stretch' (it is not in the list of debian versions in the wikipedia,
> which stops at 8, 'jessie').

FWIW, you can get this information even without going to wikipedia.

 % sudo apt-get install distro-info-data

 % cat /usr/share/distro-info/debian.csv
version,codename,series,created,release,eol
1.1,Buzz,buzz,1993-08-16,1996-06-17,1997-06-05
1.2,Rex,rex,1996-06-17,1996-12-12,1998-06-05
1.3,Bo,bo,1996-12-12,1997-06-05,1999-03-09
2.0,Hamm,hamm,1997-06-05,1998-07-24,2000-03-09
2.1,Slink,slink,1998-07-24,1999-03-09,2000-10-30
2.2,Potato,potato,1999-03-09,2000-08-15,2003-07-30
3.0,Woody,woody,2000-08-15,2002-07-19,2006-06-30
3.1,Sarge,sarge,2002-07-19,2005-06-06,2008-03-30
4.0,Etch,etch,2005-06-06,2007-04-08,2010-02-15
5.0,Lenny,lenny,2007-04-08,2009-02-14,2012-02-06
6.0,Squeeze,squeeze,2009-02-14,2011-02-06,2014-05-31
7,Wheezy,wheezy,2011-02-06,2013-05-04
8,Jessie,jessie,2013-05-04,2015-04-25
9,Stretch,stretch,2015-04-25
10,Buster,buster,2018-07-01
11,Bullseye,bullseye,2020-11-05
,Sid,sid,1993-08-16
,Experimental,experimental,1993-08-16



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Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

[Richard Owlett]

On 04/07/2017 08:19 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:

[snip]

Why no one looks at their project and sees the people
involved when making a statistic up for the amount of dissatisfied
systemd users I don't know.


That's an argument for another day.


Back when the systemd FLAME WAR was prominent, I followed a link to a 
justification link written by someone on the systemd development team.


My take-away was that systemd was aimed at *AND* had advantages for 
multi-user system.


I never saw anything addressing potential advantages for a specific 
organic user owning a discrete laptop.


Systemd *MAY* have technical advantages.
I am *NOT* qualified to say.
HOWEVER, in one sense, it is a marketing disaster.
'They' never told us, owners of single user laptops, why we should chose it.
YMMV ;/

OWL once more "ducks fer cover" ;/

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Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

[Patrick Bartek]

On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 14:27:40 -0400 David Niklas  wrote:

> On  Mon, 13 Mar 2017 12:30:11 -0700
> Patrick Bartek  wrote:
> > The Linux mantra has always been "choice," plethoras of choices. So
> > why at install time, is there no choice for the init system?  You
> > get what the developers decide. Yes, you can install a new one --
> > I've done it and it works -- but only after the install.  It'd be a
> > lot easier, if there were a choice to begin with just like whether
> > you want a GUI and which one.
> > 
> > Now, I know with LFS, you get to choose everything, etc.  But is a
> > choice of init at install time so outrageous that no one ever
> > considered it or is it technically unfeasible or something else.
> > 
> > Just curious.
> > 
> 
> Because this reply is so late I'm CC'ing you off list.
> 
> I sympathize, I run Gentoo Linux and us OpenRC. I plan on running
> Devuan, a Debain derivative that supports lots of different init

I considered Devuan initially, but it's based off Jessie; is still in
Beta, and in a few months Jessie will be oldstable.  Not the criteria
I'm looking for to replace my aging Wheezy system or install on a new
notebook I plan to get soon.

I've looked at other systemd-less Debian-based distros like AntiX and
mx16, but extraordinary measures must be taken to keep them free of
systemd components like using third party repos.  And I fear that will
ultimately affect whether they are truly Stable in the Debian
sense.  I have no interest in rolling releases.  Been there; done that.

Currently, I'm looking into a hybrid-Stretch with the init and
supervisor system I want -- easy enough to do -- disemboweling systemd
and relegating it to an innocous eunuch to satisfy dependencies. That
way I don't need any special repos and update/upgrade will work as it
should. Shows promise right now. More reading needed.  I have Plans B
and C just in case.

> systems. Why no one looks at their project and sees the people
> involved when making a statistic up for the amount of dissatisfied
> systemd users I don't know.

That's an argument for another day.

Thanks for your response.

B

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

[David Niklas]

On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 14:27:40 -0400
David Niklas  wrote:

> On  Mon, 13 Mar 2017 12:30:11 -0700
> Patrick Bartek  wrote:
> > The Linux mantra has always been "choice," plethoras of choices. So
> > why at install time, is there no choice for the init system?  You get
> > what the developers decide. Yes, you can install a new one -- I've
> > done it and it works -- but only after the install.  It'd be a lot
> > easier, if there were a choice to begin with just like whether you
> > want a GUI and which one.
> > 
> > Now, I know with LFS, you get to choose everything, etc.  But is a
> > choice of init at install time so outrageous that no one ever
> > considered it or is it technically unfeasible or something else.
> > 
> > Just curious.
> >   
> 
> Because this reply is so late I'm CC'ing you off list.
> 
> I sympathize, I run Gentoo Linux and us OpenRC. I plan on running
> Devuan, a Debain derivative that supports lots of different init
> systems. Why no one looks at their project and sees the people involved
> when making a statistic up for the amount of dissatisfied systemd users
> I don't know.
> 
> Sincerely,
> David

Oops,
The topic may be old but it does appear to be alive and well.
Also I sent to the list instead of CC'ing.

Sincerely,
David

Re: How to change where PXE booting looks for files with UEFI

[Joshua Schaeffer]

On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 12:31 PM, David Niklas  wrote:

> As someone who is curious about PXE, did you ever figure this out?
>
>
Unfortunately I was not able to spend too much time on this and have not
yet figured out how to set UEFI PXE booting options like where to look for
files. If I figure this out I will post a reply to the list.

Thanks,
Joshua

How to change where PXE booting looks for files with UEFI

[David Niklas]

On Wed, 15 Mar 2017 13:53:08 -0600
Joshua Schaeffer  wrote:
> Ahoy,
> 
> I've been learning how to setup PXE booting to install an OS image on a
> 100% UEFI system (CSM completely disabled). I use Debian 8 as my DHCP
> server (ISC DHCP) and as my TFTP server (tftpd-hpa). I also use the
> Debian netboot installer to provide the PXE environment including the
> bootnetx64.efi file (I use it to serve pxelinux.0 as well).
> 
> I'm able to get to menu screens with PXE on UEFI and BIOS, but I have to
> have specific files in certain directories for UEFI and I don't know
> how to change the defaults. With BIOS I'm able to control the
> directories and files that are served by changing the
> pxelinux.cfg/default file. For BIOS I put my debian-installer directory
> (which contains the boot screen, menus, etc) under gtk. So I just have
> lines like this in my pxelinux.cfg/default file:
> 
> path gtk/debian-installer/amd64/boot-screens/
> default gtk/debian-installer/amd64/boot-screens/vesamenu.c32
> 
> However, I can't figure out how to tell UEFI to look in specific
> directories. Instead I've been left with just having to create a symlink
> from the default directory that bootnetx64.efi looks in to point to the
> actual directory that my GRUB files exist.
> 
> How do you configure UEFI PXE booting to use different directories then
> the defaults?
> 
> Let me try to explain what I'm seeing a little better:
> 
> This is my TFTP server. The base directory is /srv/tftp:
> 
> root@broodwar:/srv/tftp/pxeboot# ls -l
> total 48208
> -rw-r--r-- 1 tftp tftp   435712 Mar 15 10:38 bootnetx64.efi
> drwxr-xr-x 1 tftp tftp4 Sep 28 11:10 centos
> drwxr-xr-x 1 tftp tftp4 Sep 28 11:10 debian
> drwxr-xr-x 1 tftp tftp8 Sep 28 11:16 fedora
> drwxr-xr-x 1 tftp tftp  120 Sep 17 10:04 gtk
> -rw-r--r-- 1 tftp tftp   116624 Sep 28 09:30 ldlinux.c32
> -rw-r--r-- 1 tftp tftp25372 Sep 30 10:40 memdisk
> -rw-r--r-- 1 tftp tftp 29360128 Sep 13  2016 mini.iso
> -rw-r--r-- 1 tftp tftp 19370928 Sep 13  2016 netboot.tar.gz
> drwxr-xr-x 1 tftp tftp   16 Sep 28 11:17 opensuse
> -rw-r--r-- 1 tftp tftp42988 Sep 13  2016 pxelinux.0
> drwxr-xr-x 1 tftp tftp  248 Sep 30 10:31 pxelinux.cfg
> drwxr-xr-x 1 tftp tftp   20 Sep 28 11:17 ubuntu
> drwxr-xr-x 1 tftp tftp   32 Sep 30 09:40 windows
> drwxr-xr-x 1 tftp tftp   52 Sep 17 10:04 xen
> 
> You can see that under the base directory I have a pxeboot directory
> which can serve both pxelinux.0 and bootnetx64.efi. I also have a gtk
> folder which is where the debian-installer folder resides under (this
> has items like my boot screens and menus as well as GRUB related files
> for UEFI). So, when booting via BIOS I tell my pxelinux.cfg file to
> look under the gtk folder as shown above. bootnetx64.efi however is
> looking for the following files:
> 
> 
>- debian-installer/amd64/grub/x86_64-efi/command.lst
>- debian-installer/amd64/grub/x86_64-efi/fs.lst
>- debian-installer/amd64/grub/x86_64-efi/crypto.lst
>- debian-installer/amd64/grub/x86_64-efi/terminal.lst
>- debian-installer/amd64/grub/grub.cfg
> 
> I know this because this is what is reported in the tftp log files. I
> have to have a symlink called debian-installer in my root directory
> (/srv/tftp/debian-installer) pointing to my gtk folder
> (srv/tftp/pxeboot/gtk/debian-installer).
> 
> root@broodwar:/srv/tftp/pxeboot# ls -l ..
> total 4
> drwxr-xrwx 1 tftp tftp 128 Jan 23 15:24 cisco_config
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  29 Mar 15 12:34 debian-installer ->
> pxeboot/gtk/debian-installer/
> drwxr-xr-x 1 tftp tftp 242 Mar 15 12:33 pxeboot
> 
> How do I tell bootnetx64.efi to just look directly in that folder
> instead of looking at the default location?
> 
> Thanks,
> Joshua

As someone who is curious about PXE, did you ever figure this out?

Thanks,
David

If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

[David Niklas]

On  Mon, 13 Mar 2017 12:30:11 -0700
Patrick Bartek  wrote:
> The Linux mantra has always been "choice," plethoras of choices. So why
> at install time, is there no choice for the init system?  You get what
> the developers decide. Yes, you can install a new one -- I've done it
> and it works -- but only after the install.  It'd be a lot easier, if
> there were a choice to begin with just like whether you want a GUI and
> which one.
> 
> Now, I know with LFS, you get to choose everything, etc.  But is a
> choice of init at install time so outrageous that no one ever
> considered it or is it technically unfeasible or something else.
> 
> Just curious.
> 

Because this reply is so late I'm CC'ing you off list.

I sympathize, I run Gentoo Linux and us OpenRC. I plan on running Devuan,
a Debain derivative that supports lots of different init systems.
Why no one looks at their project and sees the people involved when
making a statistic up for the amount of dissatisfied systemd users I don't
know.

Sincerely,
David

Re: system drive encryption question

[Pascal Hambourg]

Le 06/04/2017 à 13:10, Nathanael Schweers a écrit :

Rick Thomas  writes:


You need an un-encrypted /boot partition to hold the kernel and
initrd, of course…


This is not true, although I also thought it to be the case.

Grub2 can handle LUKS, so it is possible to encrypt the whole disk.


Actually not the whole disk (except if you are going to install GRUB's 
boot/core images on another device, but the full /boot, including 
/boot/grub, can be encrypted.


However my opinion is that encrypting /boot provides little benefit in 
general. Here is why.


Encryption provides two main benefits : confidentiality and 
tamper-proof. There is nothing confidential in /boot, but if 
tamper-proof matters to you then all the boot components, including 
GRUB's boot/core images, which cannot be encrypted, must be tamper-proof 
too. This can be achieved by installing them on a write-only device, or 
on a removable device used only for booting, or using some "trusted 
computing" framework (UEFI secure boot, TPM module...).



I recently stumbled across a post where the procedure is explained using
archlinux as an example.  I’m not sure whether debian includes a version
of Grub which can also do so, but in principle an unencrypted /boot
partition is not needed.


The version of GRUB included in Jessie at least can handle an encrypted 
/boot. However the Debian installer does not handle this case correctly. 
You must add the following line in /etc/default/grub in order for 
grub-install to install the core image with crypto modules and for 
update-grub to generate a proper grub.cfg :


GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y

(not =1 or =true as seen on some documentation)

The procedure in the post you point to is flawed in Debian Jessie : if 
you run update-grub or grub-mkconfig before adding the line in 
/etc/default/grub, it won't add the required "cryptomount" commands to 
open encrypted devices. Actually it is grub-mkconfig which is broken : 
if the line is present, it adds an cryptomount command in every menu 
entry, even when not needed (and generates boot-time errors). If the 
line is missing, it adds insmod commands to load crypto modules when 
needed but not the cryptomount commands.

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Re: Relentización de reproducción de video

[JAP]

El 07/04/17 a las 11:07, Luis Eduardo Silva Isturiz escribió:

Saludos Lista,

Tengo una PC Notebook HP 15 con Windows 10 Pro de 64 bits y Debian
GNU/Linux 8.7. amd64 (Jessie) por dualboot. La cuestión es que tengo
dos problemas:
1. Para poder iniciar Debian debo hacerlo presionando la tecla F9 para
luego elegir el nombre de mi disco duro y así poder iniciar el GRUB
donde elijo que arrancar.


Cambia en la BIOS el orden de arranque de los discos, y deja que GRUB se 
encargue de administrar el arranque dual.

O reinstala GRUB en el "master boot".



2. Los videos de youtube van más lentos que la reproducción de audio.
Por lo demás todo funciona bien.


Eso tiene más que ver con el navegador que usas.


Quisiera poder hacer que el GRUB controle tanto a Windows como a
Debian pero hasta ahora no he podido configurar el BIOS de forma que
se pueda lograr, además de poder reproducir correctamente los videos.


Lo dicho, reinstala GRUB.

http://aeshock.blogspot.com.ar/2013/08/recuperar-grub-de-debian-linux-despues.html



Agradecería cualquier sugerencia o documentación que me aporte
respuesta al problema.

Atentamente,



JAP

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Re: Relentización de reproducción de video

[Gonzalo Rivero]

El vie, 07-04-2017 a las 10:07 -0400, Luis Eduardo Silva Isturiz
escribió:
> Saludos Lista,
> 
> Tengo una PC Notebook HP 15 con Windows 10 Pro de 64 bits y Debian
> GNU/Linux 8.7. amd64 (Jessie) por dualboot. La cuestión es que tengo
> dos problemas:
> 1. Para poder iniciar Debian debo hacerlo presionando la tecla F9
> para
> luego elegir el nombre de mi disco duro y así poder iniciar el GRUB
> donde elijo que arrancar.
> 2. Los videos de youtube van más lentos que la reproducción de audio.
> Por lo demás todo funciona bien.
> 
> Quisiera poder hacer que el GRUB controle tanto a Windows como a
> Debian pero hasta ahora no he podido configurar el BIOS de forma que
> se pueda lograr, además de poder reproducir correctamente los videos.
> 

para lo primero en la configuración de la bios/uefi tenés que decirle
con que disco querés que arranque, después el grub se encarga del resto
lo segundo no se

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Relentización de reproducción de video

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Saludos Lista,

Tengo una PC Notebook HP 15 con Windows 10 Pro de 64 bits y Debian
GNU/Linux 8.7. amd64 (Jessie) por dualboot. La cuestión es que tengo
dos problemas:
1. Para poder iniciar Debian debo hacerlo presionando la tecla F9 para
luego elegir el nombre de mi disco duro y así poder iniciar el GRUB
donde elijo que arrancar.
2. Los videos de youtube van más lentos que la reproducción de audio.
Por lo demás todo funciona bien.

Quisiera poder hacer que el GRUB controle tanto a Windows como a
Debian pero hasta ahora no he podido configurar el BIOS de forma que
se pueda lograr, además de poder reproducir correctamente los videos.

Agradecería cualquier sugerencia o documentación que me aporte
respuesta al problema.

Atentamente,

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Re: Consommation du CPU abusive par Thunderbird et un lien http

[Kévin Gaspard]

Bonjour,

et pardon, je vérifierai mais je ne pense pas l'avoir précisé ici, 
j'utilise Debian testing et j'ai donc Thunderbird 45.8.0 et non pas Icedove.


On 05/04/2017 20:14, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:

Je ne vois pas Thunderbird sous Jessie, mais Icedove,
sans doute la version pour Debian ?

André



Je n'ai pas encore remonté le bug (ou quoi que se puisse être), il 
serait temps !


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Re: system drive encryption question

[Frank Weißer]

Hi F-,

have a look at /etc/default/cryptdisks

> # Mountpoints to mount, before cryptsetup is invoked at initscripts. Takes
> # mountpoins which are configured in /etc/fstab as arguments. Separate
> # mountpoints by space.
> # This is useful for keyfiles on removable media. Default is unset.
^^
I just tried it on a Fujitsu Lifebook E781, but i have LVM running and
get missing volume (containing the mountpath) :-(

No time for further testing now, so...
gould luck and kind regards

readU
Frank

FHDATA:
> 
> 
> hello,
> 
> I am not currently using debian as linux OS but
> considering it ...
> 
> 
> If I clean install debian (latest of course) and during
> the install process have  its / (system drive)
> encrypted with pass-phrase 
> 
> then later on, can I add a key, residing on
> a usb flash drive,  to that encryption?
> 
> if yes, is there a step-by-step method one can follow  to do that?
> 
> 
> 
> thank you,
> F-
> 
>