there’s something wrong with your site :(

[Louise Levine]

Hi, 
 
I am Louise Levine and I hope you are well. I was browsing through your great 
list of links on http://www.kangry.com/topics/viewcomment.php?index=323 as I 
was looking through a list of web development-related sources and was 
impressed. Thanks for putting it together – really helpful! Specially the 
http://www.dragon-labs.com/articles/octopus/ and 
http://www.webmaster-toolkit.com/css-menu-generator.shtml ones!! 
 
I'm reaching out today because I thought you might want to know about a few 
broken links on your page- specificaly 
http://www.webreference.com/authoring/style/sheets/layout/advanced/. Other than 
that, it's a great list - thanks! 
 
I co-founded a hosting research site UKWebHostReview.com- which has basically 
been an on-going case study of hosting companies which I have tested (on a 
weekly basis) to try and determine the best performing providers. I have also 
created a number of in-depth articles to help webmasters like yourself improve 
and optimise their site. 
 
I'd love to know your feedback on my site, and I thought your audience would 
find it helpful. 
 
Might be a great replacement for that broken URL. :) 
 
Looking for hearing back from you. 
 
Best Regards, 
 
Louise Levine 
UKWebHostReview.com

Re: Paste text from terminal to xemacs

[Stefan Monnier]

> I'm using XEmacs 21.4.24 and gnome-terminal 3.26.2 in sid. And I can't copy
> a text from the terminal and paste it into XEmacs. I have tried marking the
> text and then middle button; Shift-Ctrl-C and then right-button to get the
> 'paste' option; and some other combinations of these. Nothing works.

I'm not sure I understand your setup (is your emacs running inside the
gnome-terminal?  From where to where are you copy&pasting?).

But at least you can copy&paste from/to (non-X)Emacs running in
a terminal by installing the `xclip` package via `M-x list-packages`
and enabling `xclip-mode`.  This of course also requires the `xclip`
executable to be installed, but after that C-y and C-w "just work".


Stefan

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

[Charlie Gibbs]

On 08/02/18 01:22 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote:


On 08.02.18 08:42, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:


On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 01:36:41PM +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote:

[...]


[...] Fastidious fusspotting on minor terminology matters [...]


Yikes :-)

May I steal this one when I need it badly?


It's escaped now, so please feel free. Here's hoping it's not badly
needed too often.


I'm still chuckling about "the entomological leviathan that is Windows."

--
cgi...@surfnaked.ca (Charlie Gibbs)

libgparted bug.

[Gene Heskett]

Greetings all;
Trying to make a backup image of a 64GB bootable sdcard. Th os say its 
59.b GB when it mounts the original, but pull copy to a file and its 
nearly a megabyte bigger than 64gigs.  So obviously the file is bigger 
than a brand new unformatted disk.

dd said, when it ran out of room:

gene@coyote:~/rock64.imgs$ dd of=/dev/sdd bs=64k if=working-rock64.img
dd: writing `/dev/sdd': No space left on device
976897+0 records in
976896+0 records out
64021856256 bytes (64 GB) copied, 2512.18 s, 25.5 MB/s

So nominally 600k of card disappeared. 

And while it seems gparted ought to be able to fix it, it refuses to read 
it at all, throwing up a messages box claiming:

Assertion (last_usable <= disk->dev->length) 
at ../../../libparted/labels/gpt.c:723 in function _parse_header() 
failed

And its only clickable button says "no" and is a gparted exit when its 
clicked on.

Obviously I need to restrict dd to about the first 10 gigs as there is 
not any data beyond that anyway.  So wash, rinse and repeat.

But I need too, to shrink the file system, and the last partition on the 
card to low enough I could use a 16GB sdcard as the test tool, which 
would also be a time saver since reading out the whole 64GB is a 1.5 
hour project.

I have used about every disk utility there is, and have identified the 
first problem is that partition 7 is around 125k bigger than the disk. 
But I have not found a way to do a shrink.

Since these sdcards are rarely the exact same size, even in 2 from the 
same peg, it seems to me there ought to be a way to reduce them to a 
lowest common total size just so an image backup can be done.  Why 
hasn't such a utility been done?

Many thanks for any advice.
-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: Debian buster & gnucash

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 02/08/2018 03:06 PM, Sven Hartge wrote:

Jimmy Johnson  wrote:

On 02/08/2018 10:05 AM, Sven Hartge wrote:

Donald F. Emery  wrote:


I am new to debian and was hoping someone could tell me why GNUCASH was
not in debian testing.


Because of https://tracker.debian.org/news/859896 and
https://bugs.debian.org/790204



Make sure you read the part about it being fixed in Sid.


No, #790204 has been fixed with 1:2.7.3-1, currently only available in
experimental.



You're right and they are saying it's RC-buggy, I should have looked 
further into it than I did before posting, my bad and it's probably not 
a good idea to be running an app like GNUCash on testing or Sid in the 
first place.



But:

| However 2.7.* is still a development branch and upstream NEWS file contains
| the following warning:
|
| 
| This release is UNSTABLE and SHOULD NOT BE USED in production.
| See the KNOWN PROBLEMS list at the bottom of the announcement.

So beware when using that version.

Grüße,
Sven.


Cheers,
--
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Jessie - KDE 4.14.2 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda5
Registered Linux User #380263

Re: I do not want to install Linux

[Richard Hector]

On 09/02/18 01:49, Michael Fothergill wrote:
> 
> 
> On 8 February 2018 at 12:30, Curt mailto:cu...@free.fr>>
> wrote:
> 
> On 2018-02-08, deloptes  > wrote:
> > Michael Fothergill wrote:
> >
> >> I guess I could give it a try.  I have run Bodhi Linux.  That is
> quite
> >> good.
> >
> > Kali is excellent for network geeks
> >
> 
> Dali is great for surrealists.
> 
> Bali is overrated, though (too many bugs).
> 
> 
> ​You could make a poem out of this.

You could ...

> There once was a propeller head from Bali
> Whose favourite distro was Kali
> Some bugs fell in his soup
> Creating a  desire to poop
> Making him run to the nearest Khazi

Hmmm ... needs work on both scanning and rhyme, I'm afraid :-(

There once was a scammer from Bali
Who did all his hacking on Kali
The state of Nigeria
He said was inferior
So he routed all his scams through Mali.

Though I'm not sure how much 'hacking' is done by scammers.

And it won't work so well for rhotic accents.

Richard



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Re: I do not want to install Linux

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 02/07/2018 11:37 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

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On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 12:01:57AM +, Michael Fothergill wrote:

[...]


It sounds like a dietary supplement.

MF


;-P

Actually Kali Linux [1] is pretty cool and definitely worth a look.



To be fare it should be noted that Kali Linux is a rolling release using 
Debian Testing and is subject to all bugs found in testing, while 
testing Stretch X and sddm where both broken so I installed Kali only to 
find that it too was broken and did not fare any better than Debian 
Testing, not sure but if they are helping fix bugs then they are doing a 
good thing, but I don't care for a rolling release as I'm already 
running Buster and Sid.

 https://docs.kali.org/general-use/kali-linux-sources-list-repositories


And, as a Debian derivative, it is a wonderful illustration of the
things the Debian culture makes possible (another being Ubuntu, of
course).

So not *completely* off-topic here.

Cheers

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Linux
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Cheers,
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Debian Jessie - KDE 4.14.2 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda5
Registered Linux User #380263

Re: Debian buster & gnucash

[Sven Hartge]

Jimmy Johnson  wrote:
> On 02/08/2018 10:05 AM, Sven Hartge wrote:
>> Donald F. Emery  wrote:
>> 
>>> I am new to debian and was hoping someone could tell me why GNUCASH was
>>> not in debian testing.
>> 
>> Because of https://tracker.debian.org/news/859896 and
>> https://bugs.debian.org/790204

> Make sure you read the part about it being fixed in Sid.

No, #790204 has been fixed with 1:2.7.3-1, currently only available in
experimental.

But:

| However 2.7.* is still a development branch and upstream NEWS file contains
| the following warning:
|
| 
| This release is UNSTABLE and SHOULD NOT BE USED in production.
| See the KNOWN PROBLEMS list at the bottom of the announcement.

So beware when using that version.

Grüße,
Sven.

-- 
Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.

Re: Debian buster & gnucash

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 02/08/2018 10:05 AM, Sven Hartge wrote:

Donald F. Emery  wrote:


I am new to debian and was hoping someone could tell me why GNUCASH was
not in debian testing.


Because of https://tracker.debian.org/news/859896 and
https://bugs.debian.org/790204

Grüße,
S°



Make sure you read the part about it being fixed in Sid.

Cheers,
--
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Jessie - KDE 4.14.2 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda5
Registered Linux User #380263

Re: Sound devices.

[deloptes]

pe...@easthope.ca wrote:

> According to https://wiki.debian.org/SoundFAQ
> cat /usr/share/sounds/ekiga/ring.wav >/dev/dsp
> should also.  In fact it gives nothing but the command prompt.

I am not 100% sure but I think you need 
alsa-oss - ALSA wrapper for OSS applications

to be able to use dsp.

you tend to mix up alsa and oss and hence your troubles.

regards

Re: Is it appropriate to file this as a bug against php7.0-common?

[Don Armstrong]

On Thu, 08 Feb 2018, Dominik Reusser wrote:
> [Wed Feb 07 19:43:08.246413 2018] [:error] [pid 14876] [client
> 192.168.178.20:46444] PHP Fatal error:  Couldn't find implementation for
> method \x06::__tostring in Unknown on line 0

This is a known bug in nextcloud:

https://github.com/nextcloud/server/issues/3909


-- 
Don Armstrong  https://www.donarmstrong.com

If you wish to strive for peace of soul, then believe; if you wish to
be a devotee of truth, then inquire.
 -- Friedrich Nietzsche

Re: apt-get update error

[Sven Hartge]

Forest Dean Feighner  wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Greg Wooledge  wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 03:26:40PM -0500, Forest Dean Feighner wrote:

>>> W: 
>>> http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/stretch/updates/InRelease:
>>> The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file is
>>> not readable by user '_apt' executing apt-key.

>> > -rw--- 1 root root   32 Feb  6 17:58 trusted.gpg
>>
>> Synaptic strikes again. :(

> Ah, so the error is from using Synaptic rather than from the update of
> libtasn1-6?

> That's the only recent update I've done and I didn't realize Syaptic would
> write the file.

The problem is from synaptic creating /etc/apt/trusted.gpg with too
narrow permissions, a file which is no longer used by apt (instead all
keys are in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d)

You can just delete /etc/apt/trusted.gpg or change the permissions to
644 (instead of 600 now).

Grüße,
Sven.

-- 
Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.

Re: Debian buster & gnucash

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 08 February 2018 14:46:24 
debiandeepseafish...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:

> On Thu 08 Feb 2018 at 12:25:54 -0500, Donald F. Emery wrote:
> > I am new to debian and was hoping someone could tell me why GNUCASH
> > was not in debian testing.
>
> I am a member of the Debian Angling Association. We teach people how
> to fish.
>
> The Debian Packages link on the home page lets you search for the
> fishing gear we have on offer. On the right of the package's page the
> Developer Information link should bring you up-to-date on whether a
> particular rod or line is in stock.
>
> BTW, our Debian beginner's ocean fishing trips take place on our good
> ship Stable. Everything is covered for a client taking this package;
> little change to the itinerary, smooth seas guaranteed, the ship won't
> sink on the odd occasion. A little boring - but the fishing is superb.
>
> Its sister ship, Testing, is in not so good a shape. It will get to be
> safe and sound in a year or so. We'll take your money for travelling
> on it now but we can guarantee nothing, even though many customers
> have complimented us on its sea-worthiness.
>
> Living dangerously types tell us the newest of our fleet, Unstable, is
> one hell of a ride. Who are we to argue? They've paid good money for
> the our most modern of our offerings. The fact that some of our senior
> exectives won't step on board it even when it is in dry dock shouldn't
> put you off.
>
> Whatever you do, please read our brochures; we stand by their accuracy
> and will accept and respond to complaints if you are dissatisfied with
> our service.

Chuckle, I was in bad need of a grin, and this was it.

Thank you.

-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: apt-get update error

[Forest Dean Feighner]

Ah, so the error is from using Synaptic rather than from the update of
libtasn1-6?

That's the only recent update I've done and I didn't realize Syaptic would
write the file.

Thanks Greg


On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 3:36 PM, Greg Wooledge  wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 03:26:40PM -0500, Forest Dean Feighner wrote:
> > W:
> > http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/stretch/
> updates/InRelease:
> > The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file is
> > not readable by user '_apt' executing apt-key.
>
> > -rw--- 1 root root   32 Feb  6 17:58 trusted.gpg
>
> Synaptic strikes again. :(
>
>

Re: apt-get update error

[Greg Wooledge]

On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 03:26:40PM -0500, Forest Dean Feighner wrote:
> W:
> http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/stretch/updates/InRelease:
> The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file is
> not readable by user '_apt' executing apt-key.

> -rw--- 1 root root   32 Feb  6 17:58 trusted.gpg

Synaptic strikes again. :(

Is it appropriate to file this as a bug against php7.0-common?

[Dominik Reusser]

Subject: php7.0-common missing dependency? Fatal error unimplemented
\x06::__tostring
Message-ID: <151802980199.14908.639076941027288345.reportbug@msidebi>
X-Mailer: reportbug 7.1.7
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2018 19:56:41 +0100

Package: php7.0-common
Version: 7.0.27-1
Severity: normal

Dear Maintainer,

*** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate
***

   * What led up to the situation?
With a minimal installation of debian, I'm  running a nextcloud server.
   * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
 ineffective)?
I try to add a new user, which fails

   * What was the outcome of this action?

I see the following error in the apache error.log:

[Wed Feb 07 19:43:08.246413 2018] [:error] [pid 14876] [client
192.168.178.20:46444] PHP Fatal error:  Couldn't find implementation for
method \x06::__tostring in Unknown on line 0

   * What outcome did you expect instead?
I would expect php to run without error and a user being created. I guess
there is a library missing. I was not able to identify the library
providing a \x06::__tostring method

*** End of the template - remove these template lines ***


-- Package-specific info:
 Additional PHP 7.0 information 

 PHP @PHP_VERSION SAPI (php7.0query -S): 

 PHP 7.0 Extensions (php7.0query -M -v): 

 Configuration files: 
 /etc/php/7.0/mods-available/calendar.ini 
extension=calendar.so

 /etc/php/7.0/mods-available/ctype.ini 
extension=ctype.so

 /etc/php/7.0/mods-available/exif.ini 
extension=exif.so

 /etc/php/7.0/mods-available/fileinfo.ini 
extension=fileinfo.so

 /etc/php/7.0/mods-available/ftp.ini 
extension=ftp.so

 /etc/php/7.0/mods-available/gettext.ini 
extension=gettext.so

 /etc/php/7.0/mods-available/iconv.ini 
extension=iconv.so

 /etc/php/7.0/mods-available/pdo.ini 
extension=pdo.so

 /etc/php/7.0/mods-available/phar.ini 
extension=phar.so

 /etc/php/7.0/mods-available/posix.ini 
extension=posix.so

 /etc/php/7.0/mods-available/shmop.ini 
extension=shmop.so

 /etc/php/7.0/mods-available/sockets.ini 
extension=sockets.so

 /etc/php/7.0/mods-available/sysvmsg.ini 
extension=sysvmsg.so

 /etc/php/7.0/mods-available/sysvsem.ini 
extension=sysvsem.so

 /etc/php/7.0/mods-available/sysvshm.ini 
extension=sysvshm.so

 /etc/php/7.0/mods-available/tokenizer.ini 
extension=tokenizer.so


-- System Information:
Debian Release: 9.3
  APT prefers stable-updates
  APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 4.9.0-5-686-pae (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8),
LANGUAGE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

Versions of packages php7.0-common depends on:
ii  libc6   2.24-11+deb9u1
ii  libssl1.1   1.1.0f-3+deb9u1
ii  php-common  1:49
ii  ucf 3.0036

php7.0-common recommends no packages.

php7.0-common suggests no packages.

Versions of packages php7.0-cli depends on:
ii  libc62.24-11+deb9u1
ii  libedit2 3.1-20160903-3
ii  libmagic11:5.30-1+deb9u1
ii  libpcre3 2:8.39-3
ii  libssl1.11.1.0f-3+deb9u1
ii  libxml2  2.9.4+dfsg1-2.2+deb9u2
ii  mime-support 3.60
ii  php7.0-json  7.0.27-1
ii  php7.0-opcache   7.0.27-1
ii  php7.0-readline  7.0.27-1
ii  tzdata   2017c-0+deb9u1
ii  ucf  3.0036
ii  zlib1g   1:1.2.8.dfsg-5

Versions of packages php7.0-cli suggests:
pn  php-pear  

Versions of packages libapache2-mod-php7.0 depends on:
ii  apache2-bin [apache2-api-20120211]  2.4.25-3+deb9u3
ii  libc6   2.24-11+deb9u1
ii  libmagic1   1:5.30-1+deb9u1
ii  libpcre32:8.39-3
ii  libssl1.1   1.1.0f-3+deb9u1
ii  libxml2 2.9.4+dfsg1-2.2+deb9u2
ii  mime-support3.60
ii  php7.0-cli  7.0.27-1
ii  php7.0-json 7.0.27-1
ii  php7.0-opcache  7.0.27-1
ii  tzdata  2017c-0+deb9u1
ii  ucf 3.0036
ii  zlib1g  1:1.2.8.dfsg-5

Versions of packages libapache2-mod-php7.0 recommends:
ii  apache2  2.4.25-3+deb9u3

Versions of packages libapache2-mod-php7.0 suggests:
pn  php-pear  

-- no debconf information

As a side question: Why did my bug-report not make it to the bug tracking
system?

Greetings,
Thanks
Dominik

Sound devices.

[peter]

Hi,

sox is installed and 
  play /usr/share/sounds/ekiga/ring.wav
produces the sound.

According to https://wiki.debian.org/SoundFAQ
  cat /usr/share/sounds/ekiga/ring.wav >/dev/dsp
should also.  In fact it gives nothing but the command prompt.

Also,
root@dalton:~# ls -ld /dev/snd/b*/*
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 258228 Feb  8 11:20 /dev/snd/by-id/usb-0d8c
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Feb  8 09:45 
/dev/snd/by-id/usb-0d8c_C-Media_USB_Audio_Device-00 -> ../controlC0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Feb  8 09:45 
/dev/snd/by-id/usb-0d8c_C-Media_USB_Headphone_Set-00 -> ../controlC1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Feb  8 09:45 
/dev/snd/by-path/pci-:00:03.0-usb-0:2:1.0 -> ../controlC0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Feb  8 09:45 
/dev/snd/by-path/pci-:00:03.2-usb-0:1:1.0 -> ../controlC1

And,
cat /usr/share/sounds/ekiga/ring.wav > 
/dev/snd/by-path/pci-:00:03.0-usb-0:2:1.0
cat: write error: Invalid argument

Invalid argument?  It's a sound device.

Seems either the wiki is outdated or there is a snag in the system.  Ideas?

Thanks,... Peter E.


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apt-get update error

[Forest Dean Feighner]

Greetings All,

After updating libtasn1-6 last night I've started getting and an apt-get
update error.

W:
http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/stretch/updates/InRelease:
The key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file is
not readable by user '_apt' executing apt-key.
W: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stretch-updates/InRelease: The
key(s) in the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file is not
readable by user '_apt' executing apt-key.
W: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stretch/Release.gpg: The key(s) in
the keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg are ignored as the file is not readable by
user '_apt' executing apt-key.

I've read elsewhere that this file is not used for the debian repositories
and is safely removed. Is that correct?

The file in question is dated the 6th of February.
-rw--- 1 root root   32 Feb  6 17:58 trusted.gpg


Any feedback or advice appreciated.

Thanks
Forest

Re: Debian Angling Association

[Nicholas Geovanis]

On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 2:03 PM, Donald F. Emery  wrote:
> Not too sharp on linux yet but did work with a unix
> system about 25 years ago when working in the Old Bell System and AT&T
> and some of that is coming back as I work with debian.
>

At the command-line level more than 75% of your previous skills will
still apply :-)
And even many administrative skills too.

Debian Angling Association

[Donald F. Emery]

Thanks for the info. I checked it out and figured out how to use. One
of the reasons I like debian is the amount of info available about it.
For a new guy it will take a while to get to look at it all and
understand it. Not too sharp on linux yet but did work with a unix
system about 25 years ago when working in the Old Bell System and AT&T
and some of that is coming back as I work with debian.

Re: Debian buster & gnucash

[DebianDeepSeaFishing]

On Thu 08 Feb 2018 at 12:25:54 -0500, Donald F. Emery wrote:

> I am new to debian and was hoping someone could tell me why GNUCASH was
> not in debian testing.

I am a member of the Debian Angling Association. We teach people how
to fish.

The Debian Packages link on the home page lets you search for the
fishing gear we have on offer. On the right of the package's page the
Developer Information link should bring you up-to-date on whether a
particular rod or line is in stock.

BTW, our Debian beginner's ocean fishing trips take place on our good
ship Stable. Everything is covered for a client taking this package;
little change to the itinerary, smooth seas guaranteed, the ship won't
sink on the odd occasion. A little boring - but the fishing is superb.

Its sister ship, Testing, is in not so good a shape. It will get to be
safe and sound in a year or so. We'll take your money for travelling on
it now but we can guarantee nothing, even though many customers have
complimented us on its sea-worthiness.

Living dangerously types tell us the newest of our fleet, Unstable, is
one hell of a ride. Who are we to argue? They've paid good money for the
our most modern of our offerings. The fact that some of our senior
exectives won't step on board it even when it is in dry dock shouldn't
put you off.

Whatever you do, please read our brochures; we stand by their accuracy
and will accept and respond to complaints if you are dissatisfied with
our service.

Re: Debian buster & gnucash

[deloptes]

Jape Person wrote:

> I installed gnucash from unstable by adding this line
> 
> deb http://deb.debian.org/debian sid main
> 
> (temporarily) to /etc/apt/sources.list, then running

It's simply wrong, because you don't know when the program will hit the fan.
It should be installed from backports if it is there, or build a package on
target system (Buster) and install.

regards

Re: Debian buster & gnucash

[Jape Person]

On 02/08/2018 12:25 PM, Donald F. Emery wrote:
> I am new to debian and was hoping someone could tell me why
> GNUCASH was not in debian testing.
> 

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=790204

The bug report explains the current status of gnucash in testing.

I installed gnucash from unstable by adding this line

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian sid main

(temporarily) to /etc/apt/sources.list, then running

# apt update

then

# apt install gnucash*

Following that I commented out the testing line in
/etc/apt/sources.list and ran

# apt update

again to get the apt package database back to its normal
contents for testing.

Normally when using unstable like this I would alter the apt
configuration to give preference to the version in unstable and
/ or pin the version of the package I want, but since there is
no version of gnucash and gnucash-docs available in testing, I
just got lazy and did nothing about that. Currently these
instructions should get you version 1:2.6.18-1 of gnucash. It's
working well for me.

I hope one of the sharper-eyed and less lazy of the list members
will give you better instructions if warranted.

As I understand it, the version in experimental is not yet a
good choice for someone who needs a properly functioning
installation of the package.

HTH,
JP

Debian buster & gnucash

[Donald F. Emery]

Thanks for the reply. That message I sent was my first to lists and
really surprised as to how fast I got a reply. Great info, thanks to
all that replied.

Re: Debian buster & gnucash

[Sven Hartge]

Donald F. Emery  wrote:

> I am new to debian and was hoping someone could tell me why GNUCASH was
> not in debian testing.

Because of https://tracker.debian.org/news/859896 and
https://bugs.debian.org/790204

Grüße,
S°

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Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.

Re: Debian buster & gnucash

[Boyan Penkov]

On Feb 8, 2018 1:01 PM, "Jimmy Johnson"  wrote:

On 02/08/2018 09:25 AM, Donald F. Emery wrote:

> I am new to debian and was hoping someone could tell me why GNUCASH was
> not in debian testing.
>


It's not the only package missing from Buster, you can probably install it
from Sid without to much problem.


I can confirm that I have done this, and see no priblems...


Cheers,
-- 
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Jessie - KDE 4.14.2 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda5
Registered Linux User #380263

Re: Debian buster & gnucash

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 02/08/2018 09:25 AM, Donald F. Emery wrote:

I am new to debian and was hoping someone could tell me why GNUCASH was
not in debian testing.



It's not the only package missing from Buster, you can probably install 
it from Sid without to much problem.


Cheers,
--
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Jessie - KDE 4.14.2 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda5
Registered Linux User #380263

Re: How to safely hold kernel packages ?

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 02/07/2018 12:27 AM, Stéphane Rivière wrote:

Thanks Jimmy for your help,


I would use 'apt-mark'.  # apt-mark hold 'package-name'
and # apt-mark unhold 'package-name'
It appears that apt-mark hold and aptitude hold have same effects, you 
could obtain the same with some tricks with dpkg.


If I used apt-get, it should be wise to use apt-mark. When using only 
aptitude (my choice), it seems I must use aptitude hold to remain 
consistent (using apt-get or aptitude is an old, and perhaps unclear, 
war ;)))



I love using all the Debian Tools, while using Synaptic to install the 
meta-package nvidia-driver in Wheezy I found the nvidia-driver package 
is broken and Synaptic does not give much info on broken packages so I 
ran # aptitude install nvidia-driver and found that nvidia-settings was 
not installable and knowing that nvidia-settings is not needed I was 
able to install the nvidia-driver with no further problem.


Thanks to your post I found a new tool> Debian package "dlocate" and now 
I can run:

 # dpkg-hold 'package-name' and dpkg-unhold, dpkg-remove, dpkg-purge.
Pretty powerful tool don't you think.

By the way I've found what is the  kaiser patch (inducing performance 
loss between 5% -mean use- and 30%  -a heavy network load-) and why (in 
my context only, see previous message) I should use nokaiser option 
(https://lwn.net/Articles/737940) and, thanks to fine people here, the 
nopti option.network link



Well thanks to all the noise about spectre and meltdown some people are 
now trying to exploit it, now saying that, these problems have been in 
hardware for more than 5 years(and Intel kept on making them and that 
seems criminal to me) and with no reports of any exploit, so I let the 
experts work on the problem and keep my many systems(Ubuntu 14.04, 
16.04, 18.04 and Debian Wheezy, Jessie, Stretch, Buster and Sid 
installed on two desktops and 5 laptops) updated and I feel as the 
experts do and that is these affected cpu's should be recalled and 
replaced, Intel trying to fix a hardware problem with software is not 
acceptable.


On an almost idle workstation the effects of using theses options are 
not really visible (tested). But on a huge Xeon 64Go ram 2x2To 
raid1/lvm/debian 8/Xen 4 with 1 Gbps network and more than twenty VM, 
definitly not the same story (some friends has done some tests on their 
less loaded than mine dedicated servers and the performance loss is 
really huge). I have some low cost spare dedicated servers and will 
proceed to some tests too.



Sounds like a nice computer, but without the model number, cores, bus 
speed it's hard to tell just how fast it can work or move a Tb or two of 
data.



Stef

All the best from Oleron island,


Cool! And blessings to you from sunny California!--
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Jessie - KDE 4.14.2 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda5
Registered Linux User #380263

Debian buster & gnucash

[Donald F. Emery]

I am new to debian and was hoping someone could tell me why GNUCASH was
not in debian testing.

Re: I do not want to install Linux

[Curt]

On 2018-02-08, Cindy-Sue Causey  wrote:
>
>> Bali is overrated, though (too many bugs).

> Yet the Road to Bali remains well traveled
>

I don't know about Crosby, but I think it was Brando who said that Bob
Hope would perform at the opening of a phone booth (all four now being
of course defunct, but the kids can look them up if interested).

-- 
“True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class
is running the country.” – Kurt Vonnegut

Re: I do not want to install Linux

[Michelle Konzack]

Am DATE hackte AUTHOR in die Tasten: deloptes
> Michael Fothergill wrote:
>
>> I guess I could give it a try.  I have run Bodhi Linux.  That is quite
>> good.
>
> Kali is excellent for network geeks

This is WHY I have just bought a 2 liter bottle!  ;-)

-- 
Michelle KonzackMiila ITSystems @ TDnet
GNU/Linux Developer 00372-54541400

Re: I do not want to install Linux

[Cindy-Sue Causey]

On 2/8/18, Curt  wrote:
> On 2018-02-08, deloptes  wrote:
>> Michael Fothergill wrote:
>>
>>> I guess I could give it a try.  I have run Bodhi Linux.  That is quite
>>> good.
>>
>> Kali is excellent for network geeks
>>
>
> Dali is great for surrealists.


Even the real defies reality..


> Bali is overrated, though (too many bugs).


Yet the Road to Bali remains well traveled

Re: Paste text from terminal to xemacs

[songbird]

Victor Munoz wrote:
> songbird wrote:
...
>>   xclip?
>
> It does help! Didn't know that. Combining it with inserting shell command
> ouput ('xclip -o" in this case) in xemacs, does exactly what I need. Thanks
> for the workaround!

  y.w.  glad it worked.  :)


  songbird

Re: I do not want to install Linux

[tomas]

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On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 12:49:23PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote:
> On 8 February 2018 at 12:30, Curt  wrote:
> 
> > On 2018-02-08, deloptes  wrote:
> > > Michael Fothergill wrote:
> > >
> > >> I guess I could give it a try.  I have run Bodhi Linux.  That is quite
> > >> good.
> > >
> > > Kali is excellent for network geeks
> > >
> >
> > Dali is great for surrealists.
> >
> > Bali is overrated, though (too many bugs).
> >
> 
> You could make a poem out of this.
> 
> E.g.
> 
> There once was a propeller head from Bali
> Whose favourite distro was Kali
> Some bugs fell in his soup
> Creating a  desire to poop
> Making him run to the nearest Khazi
> 

Not to forget Mali, which invariably needs some reverse
engineering...

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Re: I do not want to install Linux

[Michael Fothergill]

On 8 February 2018 at 12:30, Curt  wrote:

> On 2018-02-08, deloptes  wrote:
> > Michael Fothergill wrote:
> >
> >> I guess I could give it a try.  I have run Bodhi Linux.  That is quite
> >> good.
> >
> > Kali is excellent for network geeks
> >
>
> Dali is great for surrealists.
>
> Bali is overrated, though (too many bugs).
>

​You could make a poem out of this.

E.g.

There once was a propeller head from Bali
Whose favourite distro was Kali
Some bugs fell in his soup
Creating a  desire to poop
Making him run to the nearest Khazi


​


>
> >
>
>
> --
> “True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school
> class
> is running the country.” – Kurt Vonnegut
>
>

Re: I do not want to install Linux

[Curt]

On 2018-02-08, deloptes  wrote:
> Michael Fothergill wrote:
>
>> I guess I could give it a try.  I have run Bodhi Linux.  That is quite
>> good.
>
> Kali is excellent for network geeks
>

Dali is great for surrealists.

Bali is overrated, though (too many bugs).

>


-- 
“True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class
is running the country.” – Kurt Vonnegut

Re: I do not want to install Linux

[deloptes]

Michael Fothergill wrote:

> I guess I could give it a try.  I have run Bodhi Linux.  That is quite
> good.

Kali is excellent for network geeks

Re: "Show Applications" management in Debian Desktop

[Matthew Crews]

 Original Message 
On February 7, 2018 5:19 PM, OECT T  wrote:

> I'm using Debian Stretch 9.3 an I'm very glad to find that when activating 
> "Show Applications" from the Dash there is a Utilities kind of folder 
> grouping several applications like the Calculator and the Document Viewer.
>
> I've been reading through the documentation but can't find how to create 
> another group or move applications from and into this already created 
> Utilities group without sources.
>
> I'll appreciate any hints in order to find out how to do that.

I found this on the Gnome Wiki. This will help!

https://wiki.gnome.org/HowDoI/AppFolders

You may also want to download a menu editor, such as menulibre, from the repos.

Re: I do not want to install Linux

[Ionel Mugurel Ciobîcă]

On  8-02-2018, at 09h 10'56", Michael Fothergill wrote about "Re: I do not want 
to install Linux"
> > > > In any case, "Thank you for reminding me of Kali. It may be a tool I
> > > > need."
> > >
> > > ​It sounds like a dietary supplement.
> >
> > I prefer to drink the estonian Kali.
> >
> 
> ​It's some kind of fermented bread it seems.  The general term for it is
> kvass.
> 

Sounds too Russian... In Romanian that is braga.

Ionel

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

[Richard Hector]

On 08/02/18 15:36, Erik Christiansen wrote:
>> Please don't use "class B" to mean /16. Firstly, it's decades out of
>> date, and secondly, that range was never in the class B section.
> I'm decades out of date too, so it's apt. The intended audience can
> probably discern the message that a broader common netmask doesn't weigh
> more than a precisely fitted one which might or might not work as
> expected. Fastidious fusspotting on minor terminology matters does not
> contribute anything to the meat of the matter, no matter how much it
> massages the author's ego.

The thing is, I don't consider this a minor terminology matter. It's
adding confusion to the subject by persisting with out of date concepts.
We'd all be better off forgetting about classes, but people keep
bringing them back up again ...

Richard




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Re: I do not want to install Linux

[Michael Fothergill]

On 8 February 2018 at 08:01, Michelle Konzack <
linux4miche...@tamay-dogan.net> wrote:

> Good Morning,
>
> Am 2018-02-07 hackte Michael Fothergill in die Tasten:
> > On 7 February 2018 at 21:52, Richard Owlett  wrote:
> >> However, though *derived from* Debian, it's not precisely Debian.
> >> For that reason I would suggest following links from <
> >> https://www.kali.org/community/>, particularly
> >> .
> >>
> >> I suspect that I know what happened, but will not give perhaps erroneous
> >> directions.
> >>
> >> In any case, "Thank you for reminding me of Kali. It may be a tool I
> >> need."
> >
> > ​It sounds like a dietary supplement.
>
> I prefer to drink the estonian Kali.
>

​It's some kind of fermented bread it seems.  The general term for it is
kvass.

I was thinking of the world kalium (potassium).   They use it to sell
electrolyte supplements.

MF​


>
>  g274958-d1119974-i142077365-Vanaema_Juures-Tallinn_Harju_County.html>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> --
> Michelle KonzackMiila ITSystems @ TDnet
> GNU/Linux Developer 00372-54541400
>
>

Re: Ethernet is not started at boot

[Erik Christiansen]

On 08.02.18 08:42, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 01:36:41PM +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > [...] Fastidious fusspotting on minor terminology matters [...]
> 
> Yikes :-)
> 
> May I steal this one when I need it badly?

It's escaped now, so please feel free. Here's hoping it's not badly
needed too often.

Erik

Re: I do not want to install Linux

[Michael Fothergill]

On 8 February 2018 at 07:37,  wrote:

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> On Thu, Feb 08, 2018 at 12:01:57AM +, Michael Fothergill wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > It sounds like a dietary supplement.
> >
> > MF
>
> ;-P
>
> Actually Kali Linux [1] is pretty cool and definitely worth a look.
> And, as a Debian derivative, it is a wonderful illustration of the
> things the Debian culture makes possible (another being Ubuntu, of
> course).
>

​I guess I could give it a try.  I have run Bodhi Linux.  That is quite
good.

MF​


>
> So not *completely* off-topic here.
>
> Cheers
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Linux
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Re: I do not want to install Linux

[Michelle Konzack]

Good Morning,

Am 2018-02-07 hackte Michael Fothergill in die Tasten:
> On 7 February 2018 at 21:52, Richard Owlett  wrote:
>> However, though *derived from* Debian, it's not precisely Debian.
>> For that reason I would suggest following links from <
>> https://www.kali.org/community/>, particularly
>> .
>>
>> I suspect that I know what happened, but will not give perhaps erroneous
>> directions.
>>
>> In any case, "Thank you for reminding me of Kali. It may be a tool I
>> need."
>
> ​It sounds like a dietary supplement.

I prefer to drink the estonian Kali.



Thanks in advance

-- 
Michelle KonzackMiila ITSystems @ TDnet
GNU/Linux Developer 00372-54541400