Re: The Internet locks up Buster

[Reco]

Hi.

On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 09:25:25PM -0400, Borden Rhodes wrote:
> During the freeze, hard drive activity goes through the roof. Yes, my
> hard drive is fine and works normally when doing anything else. I also
> don't get these lockups when browsing in Windows.

That looks like an OOM-killer that's desperately trying to free some RAM.
Or good old 12309 bug.

Please share the contents of /var/log/kern.log that correspond to the
time of the problem. Any single one will do.

Reco

Re: Installing Gimp 2.10.2

[steve]

Le mardi 05 juin 2018, HP Garcia a écrit :


On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 06:51:36 +0200
steve  wrote:


Le 05-06-2018, à 21:45:24 -0700, HP Garcia a écrit :

>I'm trying to install Gimp 2.10.2. I tried adding the flatpack
>repository but it message "sudo: add-apt-repository: command not
>found"

Have you the software-properties-common package installed?

If not install it then relaunch your command.



I installed the software-properties-common package and reran the
command.

I got this message this time "gpg: keyserver receive failed: No dirmngr"


sudo apt-get install dirmngr

should help  ;)

Re: Installing Gimp 2.10.2

[steve]

Le mardi 05 juin 2018, HP Garcia a écrit :


>I'm trying to install Gimp 2.10.2. I tried adding the flatpack
>repository but it message "sudo: add-apt-repository: command not
>found"

Have you the software-properties-common package installed?

If not install it then relaunch your command.



No, I didn't know I needed that.


That command belongs to that package. "command not found" is pretty
explicite.

Re: Installing Gimp 2.10.2

[HP Garcia]

On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 06:51:36 +0200
steve  wrote:

> Le 05-06-2018, à 21:45:24 -0700, HP Garcia a écrit :
> 
> >I'm trying to install Gimp 2.10.2. I tried adding the flatpack
> >repository but it message "sudo: add-apt-repository: command not
> >found"  
> 
> Have you the software-properties-common package installed?
> 
> If not install it then relaunch your command.
> 

I installed the software-properties-common package and reran the
command. 

I got this message this time "gpg: keyserver receive failed: No dirmngr"

Getting closer.

-HP 

Re: Installing Gimp 2.10.2

[HP Garcia]

On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 06:51:36 +0200
steve  wrote:

> Le 05-06-2018, à 21:45:24 -0700, HP Garcia a écrit :
> 
> >I'm trying to install Gimp 2.10.2. I tried adding the flatpack
> >repository but it message "sudo: add-apt-repository: command not
> >found"  
> 
> Have you the software-properties-common package installed?
> 
> If not install it then relaunch your command.
> 

No, I didn't know I needed that.

-HP 

Re: Installing Gimp 2.10.2

[steve]

Le 05-06-2018, à 21:45:24 -0700, HP Garcia a écrit :


I'm trying to install Gimp 2.10.2. I tried adding the flatpack
repository but it message "sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found"


Have you the software-properties-common package installed?

If not install it then relaunch your command.

Installing Gimp 2.10.2

[HP Garcia]

I'm trying to install Gimp 2.10.2. I tried adding the flatpack
repository but it message "sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found"

I think I might have to build it from source code. Anyone else got it
to install correctly?

Thanks for any advice.

HP Garcia

Re: Import messages from Icedove to Thunderbird

[David Christensen]

On 06/05/18 11:09, Markos wrote:
I've just installed Debian 9 (stretch) and I'm trying to import folder 
with messages from Icedove 38.5.0 at my old PC (running debian 8) to my 
new PC with Thunderbird 52.8.0.


In Icedove I select a folder and Tools -> Import/export in mbox/eml 
format -> Export folder


And save the file in a pendrive.

In Thunderbird I select Tools -> Import -> Messages -> Mail -> Next

But appear only the message: No application or data file to import

And no option to select the file that contains the contact list as in

http://write.flossmanuals.net/thunderbird/migrating/

Please, any tip?


Up through Debian 7, I copied message files and folders:

/Mail/Local\ Folders/*

and used the Address Book export and import utilities.  This mostly worked.


But as of Debian 9 (I skipped Debian 8), copying files and folders 
caused a lot of problems.  The only method that worked correctly was to 
copy the entire profile directory:


https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/moving-thunderbird-data-to-a-new-computer


David

The Internet locks up Buster

[Borden Rhodes]

This is a follow-up to a question I posted here on 27 May for which I
got no response. In it, I complained that my "new" laptop running
Buster completely freezes when browsing certain Javascript-heavy
websites (like Google Docs, Facebook and YouTube) on Firefox 52.

Since that e-mail, I installed Chromium 62 thinking that the problem
was with Firefox. I'm getting the same lockups, too. So it seems
logical that the problem is deeper down the software stack.

Certain activity will trigger the freeze almost immediately. It can
start as soon as I attempt to load a page, like linotype.com, or after
a few minutes on Facebook or Google Docs.

During the freeze, hard drive activity goes through the roof. Yes, my
hard drive is fine and works normally when doing anything else. I also
don't get these lockups when browsing in Windows.

What should I do to get to the root of this problem and fix it?

Re: Import messages from Icedove to Thunderbird

[Ben Caradoc-Davies]

On 06/06/18 06:09, Markos wrote:

And no option to select the file that contains the contact list


Just copy abook.mab from the old to the new. But see below because you 
might prefer to copy your old ~/.icedove directory and automigrate.


Export/Import is great for archival or migrating between different email 
clients, but I found copying raw data files to be the most convenient 
when going between Thunderbird instances. However, automigration is 
likely what you want.


The official way of migrating is to copy your *entire* ~/.icedove 
directory to your new computer.


tar zcf icedove.tar.gz .icedove
# copy icedove.tar.gz to new computer
tar zxf icedove.tar.gz

Since the Icedove->Thunderbird unrebranding, the first time Thunderbird 
starts with no ~/.thunderbird (if you already have a new one you can 
remove or rename it to, for example, .thunderbird.disabled), it will 
automatically migrate *everything* into a new ~/.thunderbird directory. 
All your account settings and plugins should just work. You should then 
be able to remove your copied ~/.icedove directory and any renamed empty 
(e.g.) ~/.thunderbird.disabled. There might be another copied temporary 
icedove directory because Thunderbird will try hard to not harm your data.


Kind regards,

--
Ben Caradoc-Davies 
Director
Transient Software Limited 
New Zealand

Re: Import messages from Icedove to Thunderbird

[Ben Caradoc-Davies]

On 06/06/18 06:09, Markos wrote:
I've just installed Debian 9 (stretch) and I'm trying to import folder 
with messages from Icedove 38.5.0 at my old PC (running debian 8) to my 
new PC with Thunderbird 52.8.0.


If your messages are in "Mail/Local Folders", you should be able to copy 
all the folders you want from your profile on your old computer to your 
profile on your new computer and everything should just work. You should 
also copy all the .msf (index) and .sbd (subfolders) files and folders.


Each Thunderbird "folder" is an mbox-format file with a .msf index file, 
and subfolders are stored in a .sbd directory. Index files can be 
regenerated if damaged but it is easiest to just copy them (and this 
will preserve your replied/forwarded flags).


Kind regards,

--
Ben Caradoc-Davies 
Director
Transient Software Limited 
New Zealand

Re: Trouble with apt update

[floris]

Sonu Sirvee schreef op 2018-06-05 08:28:

Hello all,
When I run the command: sudo apt update
I get this error:
$ sudo apt update
Ign:1 http://debianmirror.nkn.in/debian stretch InRelease
Hit:2 http://debianmirror.nkn.in/debian stretch-updates InRelease

Hit:3 http://debianmirror.nkn.in/debian stretch Release

Hit:4 http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates
InRelease
Ign:6 http://ppa.edx.org stretch InRelease

Err:7 http://ppa.edx.org stretch Release
  403  Forbidden
Reading package lists... Done
E: The repository 'http://ppa.edx.org stretch Release' does not have a
Release file.
N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is
therefore disabled by default.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user
configuration details.

Can someone help me out.
Thank you


Remove the line with ppa.edx.org from /etc/apt/sources.list or from a 
*.list file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/

---
Floris

Re: Import messages from Icedove to Thunderbird

[Mike]

Have you tried just using the Icedove profile from within Thunderbird?.

Mike



On 06/06/18 06:09, Markos wrote:


Hi,

I've just installed Debian 9 (stretch) and I'm trying to import folder 
with messages from Icedove 38.5.0 at my old PC (running debian 8) to 
my new PC with Thunderbird 52.8.0.


In Icedove I select a folder and Tools -> Import/export in mbox/eml 
format -> Export folder


And save the file in a pendrive.

In Thunderbird I select Tools -> Import -> Messages -> Mail -> Next

But appear only the message: No application or data file to import

And no option to select the file that contains the contact list as in

http://write.flossmanuals.net/thunderbird/migrating/

Please, any tip?

Thanks,

Markos

Import messages from Icedove to Thunderbird

[Markos]

Hi,

I've just installed Debian 9 (stretch) and I'm trying to import folder 
with messages from Icedove 38.5.0 at my old PC (running debian 8) to my 
new PC with Thunderbird 52.8.0.


In Icedove I select a folder and Tools -> Import/export in mbox/eml 
format -> Export folder


And save the file in a pendrive.

In Thunderbird I select Tools -> Import -> Messages -> Mail -> Next

But appear only the message: No application or data file to import

And no option to select the file that contains the contact list as in

http://write.flossmanuals.net/thunderbird/migrating/

Please, any tip?

Thanks,

Markos

Re: Locale issue

[Bert Riding]

On Tue, 05 Jun 2018 18:30:02 +0200, John wrote:

> Whenever I run emacs on my 64bit Debian (Jessie) machine via ssh I see
> 
> (process:20589): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
> Using the fallback 'C' locale.
> 
> root@snout:~# printenv (edited)
> 
> LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
> XTERM_LOCALE=C
> XTERM_VERSION=XTerm(312)
> LANGUAGE=en_GB:en
> LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
> 
> Is this just another annoyance or can it be stopped?
> 
> ==John ffitch

you could compare the results of "locale" and "locale -a" or perhaps 
install the package localehelper if needed.

Re: Locale issue

[Greg Wooledge]

On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 05:25:52PM +0100, John wrote:
> Whenever I run emacs on my 64bit Debian (Jessie) machine via ssh I see
> 
> (process:20589): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
> Using the fallback 'C' locale.
> 
> root@snout:~# printenv (edited)
> 
> LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
> XTERM_LOCALE=C
> XTERM_VERSION=XTerm(312)
> LANGUAGE=en_GB:en
> LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
> 
> Is this just another annoyance or can it be stopped?

On the Debian system, as root, run "dpkg-reconfigure locales" and make
sure you select the en_GB.utf8 locale as one of the locales to generate.
(As well as any others that you or other users may use in the future.)

Locale issue

[John]

Whenever I run emacs on my 64bit Debian (Jessie) machine via ssh I see

(process:20589): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
Using the fallback 'C' locale.

root@snout:~# printenv (edited)

LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
XTERM_LOCALE=C
XTERM_VERSION=XTerm(312)
LANGUAGE=en_GB:en
LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8

Is this just another annoyance or can it be stopped?

==John ffitch

Re: self identifying computer

[john doe]

On 6/5/2018 12:20 PM, mick crane wrote:

On 2018-06-05 07:57, john doe wrote:

On 6/5/2018 12:56 AM, mick crane wrote:
I changed the domain name for couple of home computers from "local" 
to "home"

one of them is win 10 PC.
I have ipfire box doing hopefully firewall and DNS and so while I 
changed domain I let all get address from its DHCP and gave them 
fixed leases.

I have 2 debian PCs
I try to find IP address of a cheap IP cctv camera I just bought with 
no instructions.

I do "nmap -sn 10.0.0.0/16" to see if camera shows up
oddly finds PCs but gets "I'm here" from the windows PC but on the 
old IP address I had previously given it in windows networking 
thingamyjig.


any idea where this identification might be hanging about ?
everything works but it just doesn't look very tidy.

I should point out I don't really know what I'm doing.



Welcome to the club, we've all been there!!! :)

You should look on the device on which you change the TLDS (local >
home) for the dhcp leases and the log.

dear all,

I hold my hand up there was an entry in "hosts" GUI of ipfire PC about 
the old domain/ipaddress of windows PC but I swear I cleared out ipfire 
/etc/hosts so I dunno where that came from.


I would also look for advice on the IPFire forum:

https://www.ipfire.org/get-support

- Maybe restarting from scratch?
- Changing the TLDS could have consequences (mDNS)



I think it might be something to do with arp cache on all the PCs  going
"I know about that"
Still no funny entries in nmap results now except windows PC doesn't 
show up at all but guess that is windows firewalling.




For testing purposes, is it working with windows firewalling disable?

regards the CCTV camera is another thing. It's there but is not 
streaming on the ethernet, just the WIFI and appears to connect to cloud 
servers ( I'll leave that for another day ). 



Unlikely but the CCTV might not support dhcp.

--
John Doe

Re: Trouble installing openedx on Debian9

[didier gaumet]

Le 05/06/2018 à 12:47, Sonu Sirvee a écrit :
> yea.. it is compatible with Ubuntu. I want it to port on Debian..under
> that process I came across this error
> 
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:00 PM, didier gaumet  > wrote:
> 
> Le 05/06/2018 à 10:26, to...@tuxteam.de  a
> écrit :
> 
> > As I already said, I don't know even what "edx" is. A cursory
> > web search didn't make me smarter either.
> 
> I did not know myself either :-)
> it's about online learning:
> https://open.edx.org/about-open-edx
> 
> The poster did not mention what is goal is by trying to install openedx
> but from what I gather from the above mentionned website, he does not
> need openedx software at all if his sole purpose is to access online
> courses (LMS): that may be done with a web browser
> 
> And for creating or managing courses: there is a native Ubuntu 16.04
> version and a Docker container that is recommended for other linuxes

1) Please, please, please... As Thomas already asked you: answer only to
the Debian user mailing list (or the newsgroup or the web forum,
depending on what you use). Other people might have the same problem as
yours in the future and this thread may help them.

2) What do you mean by "I want to port it to Debian"? There is no
Openedx Ubuntu package: so what you want is adapt the Ubuntu native
install procedure to Debian? or create a Debian package? or just running
Openedx on Debian? or something else?

3) How, precisely, did you try to install Openedx on Debian? Your first
message mentions the transcription of an error message but not the steps
you achieved that caused it.

4) Be warned that my comptetences in porting and packaging tend to zero :-)

Re: Trouble installing openedx on Debian9

[didier gaumet]

Le 05/06/2018 à 12:47, Sonu Sirvee a écrit :
> yea.. it is compatible with Ubuntu. I want it to port on Debian..under
> that process I came across this error
> 
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:00 PM, didier gaumet  > wrote:
> 
> Le 05/06/2018 à 10:26, to...@tuxteam.de  a
> écrit :
> 
> > As I already said, I don't know even what "edx" is. A cursory
> > web search didn't make me smarter either.
> 
> I did not know myself either :-)
> it's about online learning:
> https://open.edx.org/about-open-edx
> 
> The poster did not mention what is goal is by trying to install openedx
> but from what I gather from the above mentionned website, he does not
> need openedx software at all if his sole purpose is to access online
> courses (LMS): that may be done with a web browser
> 
> And for creating or managing courses: there is a native Ubuntu 16.04
> version and a Docker container that is recommended for other linuxes

1) Please, please, please... As Thomas already asked you: answer only to
the Debian user mailing list (or the newsgroup or the web forum,
depending on what you use). Other people might have the same problem as
yours in the future and this thread may help them.

2) What do you mean by "I want to port it to Debian"? There is no
Openedx Ubuntu package: so what you want is adapt the Ubuntu native
install procedure to Debian? or create a Debian package? or just running
Openedx on Debian? or something else?

3) How, precisely, did you try to install Openedx on Debian? Your first
message mentions the transcription of an error message but not the steps
you achieved that caused it.

4) Be warned that my comptetences in porting and packaging tend to zero :-)

Re: Trouble installing openedx on Debian9

[didier gaumet]

Le 05/06/2018 à 10:26, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit :

> As I already said, I don't know even what "edx" is. A cursory
> web search didn't make me smarter either.

I did not know myself either :-)
it's about online learning:
https://open.edx.org/about-open-edx
The poster did not mention what is goal is by trying to install openedx
but from what I gather from the above mentionned website, he does not
need openedx software at all if his sole purpose is to access online
courses (LMS): that may be done with a web browser

And for creating or managing courses: there is a native Ubuntu 16.04
version and a Docker container that is recommended for other linuxes

Re: self identifying computer

[mick crane]

On 2018-06-05 07:57, john doe wrote:

On 6/5/2018 12:56 AM, mick crane wrote:
I changed the domain name for couple of home computers from "local" to 
"home"

one of them is win 10 PC.
I have ipfire box doing hopefully firewall and DNS and so while I 
changed domain I let all get address from its DHCP and gave them fixed 
leases.

I have 2 debian PCs
I try to find IP address of a cheap IP cctv camera I just bought with 
no instructions.

I do "nmap -sn 10.0.0.0/16" to see if camera shows up
oddly finds PCs but gets "I'm here" from the windows PC but on the old 
IP address I had previously given it in windows networking 
thingamyjig.


any idea where this identification might be hanging about ?
everything works but it just doesn't look very tidy.

I should point out I don't really know what I'm doing.



Welcome to the club, we've all been there!!! :)

You should look on the device on which you change the TLDS (local >
home) for the dhcp leases and the log.

dear all,

I hold my hand up there was an entry in "hosts" GUI of ipfire PC about 
the old domain/ipaddress of windows PC but I swear I cleared out ipfire 
/etc/hosts so I dunno where that came from.


I think it might be something to do with arp cache on all the PCs  going
"I know about that"
Still no funny entries in nmap results now except windows PC doesn't 
show up at all but guess that is windows firewalling.


regards the CCTV camera is another thing. It's there but is not 
streaming on the ethernet, just the WIFI and appears to connect to cloud 
servers ( I'll leave that for another day ). my suspicion is that the 
Chinese are selling these off cheap to have a peek at European domestic 
habits.


mick





--
Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

[Kenneth Parker]

> > Wow!  I said "bad things" about Ubuntu regarding this topic but, just
> > today, experienced the same kind of thing, with Debian Stretch, regarding
> > the vlc "uber Package".  Seems it's replacing libvlccore8 with
> libvlccore9,
> > along with several other replacements!  So Debian also uses this
> technique
> > (dist-upgrade) for, other than "Upgrading the Distribution".
> >
> > Sorry about that, Ubuntu.  :-)
> >
> > Kenneth Parker
>
> Your criticism of Debian is unjustified.   apt-get dist-upgrade   is
> required to upgrade libvlccore8 to libvlccore9 because, of course, the
> latter is a different package.
>

Sorry abut that.  I guess it's mainly a Teaching Moment for me.  With
Ubuntu, every Kernel Upgrade was handled this way, which had prompted my
prior comment, criticizing Ubuntu.

libvlccore8 is based on VLC version 2 and libvlccore9 is based on VLC 3.
> VLC is susceptible to DSA-4203 (CVE-2017-17670), so VLC 3 has been fixed
> in 3.0.2. As VLC 2.x will not get fixed, stretch had no alternative
> but to move from version 2 to 3.
>

And, of course, the Version Upgrade is for a very good reason. (The
vulnerability description is fascinating!)

Cheers,
> David.
>

Thanks for your patience.

Kenneth Parker

Re: Trouble installing openedx on Debian9

[tomas]

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On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 01:52:46PM +0530, Sonu Sirvee wrote:
> could you say me whom should I mail or ask regarding this Err:7

Sonu,

see my other mail. Please, please: keep the list posted. There
are many people there who know many things I don't know.

> http://ppa.edx.org stretch Release
>   403  Forbidden
> Issue.

As I already said, I don't know even what "edx" is. A cursory
web search didn't make me smarter either.

Is it free software? Is it a product by a company?

Cheers
- -- tomás
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Re: Trouble installing openedx on Debian9

[tomas]

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On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 10:29:18AM +0530, Sonu Sirvee wrote:
> Thank you for the help.

Please, keep the list posted. This way, you might get better
answers, and those answers might help others.

> Can u say me the latest edx PPA key for debian.???
> Guess thats the error.

I guess that too -- but unfortunately, I have no idea what
"edx" is. A superficial web search doesn't turn up any
conclusive results for me.

Good luck
- -- tomás
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Re: self identifying computer

[Joe]

On Mon, 04 Jun 2018 23:56:21 +0100
mick crane  wrote:

> I changed the domain name for couple of home computers from "local"
> to "home"
> one of them is win 10 PC.
> I have ipfire box doing hopefully firewall and DNS and so while I 
> changed domain I let all get address from its DHCP and gave them
> fixed leases.
> I have 2 debian PCs
> I try to find IP address of a cheap IP cctv camera I just bought with
> no instructions.
> I do "nmap -sn 10.0.0.0/16" to see if camera shows up
> oddly finds PCs but gets "I'm here" from the windows PC but on the
> old IP address I had previously given it in windows networking
> thingamyjig.
> 
> any idea where this identification might be hanging about ?
> everything works but it just doesn't look very tidy.
> 
> I should point out I don't really know what I'm doing.
> 

Who does? Presumably you can find your way into Windows network
configuration, not that it helps much. I've never seen Win10, but I've
had 8 for a few years, and it's a pain to do network troubleshooting
with. It needs a real kicking to do what it's told. At the slightest
provocation, it will pick up an APIPA address, the one method
absolutely guaranteed to cut off all network communication. Windows 95
needed the installation CD in order to change IP address, but at least
it did what you told it to do.

So tick the boxes for getting network address and DNS automatically,
and to be on the safe side, also give it a fixed address in the network
outside the DHCP range, and flip over the page and do the same with the
alternate address. That will probably do the job, but reboot anyway,
it's Windows...

-- 
Joe