Re: Looking for a "friendly" e-mail service

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2018-11-26 hackte Brian in die Tasten:
> On Mon 26 Nov 2018 at 09:37:21 -0500, Mark Neidorff wrote:
> gmail and yahoo. :)

He asked for a "friendly" EMail Service not a crappy free one

Depending on his traffic, he could get an account under my domain
 which support IMAP/SMTP plus Squirrelmail.


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Michelle KonzackMiila ITSystems @ TDnet
GNU/Linux Developer 00372-54541400

Interphone with SIP-Protocol

[Michelle Konzack]

Hello Guys,

OK, I live now since last year permanently in Estonia and have now a 4ha
(13ha max) Organic Farm with 5,6ha forest.  Because I live in a loghouse
I have build a fire and storm proof "Serverbunker" where my Intranet
Server with its own power supply reside (the Mainpower supply will be
cut at stomy weather).

>From theis Serverbunker I go (Lighting protection) with Multimode Fiber
Cabesl (100Base-FX) to the House, Powerstation, Greenhouse, Earth-
storrage and of course to the Portal.

Because my Portal is in a distance of 60m from the Serverbunker and I do
not like to install a seperated earth cable, I am now searching for an
IP/SIP based Interphone.  Best would be with Video.

Has someone experience with it and can suggest me a product?

Note 1: We have currently -10°C on the Farm and it can go down
until -30°C (some years ago it was for one day -39°C),
which increase the requirements on the Interphone.

Note 2: In 2017/2018 i used a Banana PI at a Sidele Interphone,
but the BPI gaved up at -5°C and the Siedele at -20°C.

Thanks in advance

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Michelle KonzackMiila ITSystems @ TDnet
GNU/Linux Developer 00372-54541400

Re: Interphone with SIP-Protocol

[Ben Oliver]

On 18-11-29 10:27:49, Michelle Konzack wrote:

Note 1: We have currently -10°C on the Farm and it can go down
   until -30°C (some years ago it was for one day -39°C),
   which increase the requirements on the Interphone.


Quite an interesting issue. I would probably go down the route of a 
'tough' Android phone with a SIP app like linphone.


I have used 'runbo' phones before and they were good. Not sure about the 
temperature specs though.


Just an alternative idea for you to think about.


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Re: Interphone with SIP-Protocol

[Michelle Konzack]

Hi,

Am 2018-11-29 hackte Ben Oliver in die Tasten:
> On 18-11-29 10:27:49, Michelle Konzack wrote:
>>Note 1: We have currently -10°C on the Farm and it can go down
>>until -30°C (some years ago it was for one day -39°C),
>>which increase the requirements on the Interphone.
>
> Quite an interesting issue. I would probably go down the route of a
> 'tough' Android phone with a SIP app like linphone.
>
> I have used 'runbo' phones before and they were good. Not sure about
> the
> temperature specs though.
>
> Just an alternative idea for you to think about.

I do not think, it is a good idea to have such tough outdoor phone
for several 100€ outside alone only 2 car hours away from the
russian border...

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Michelle KonzackMiila ITSystems @ TDnet
GNU/Linux Developer 00372-54541400

Re: Interphone with SIP-Protocol

[Dan Ritter]

Michelle Konzack wrote: 
> Because my Portal is in a distance of 60m from the Serverbunker and I do
> not like to install a seperated earth cable, I am now searching for an
> IP/SIP based Interphone.  Best would be with Video.
> 
> Has someone experience with it and can suggest me a product?
> 
> Note 1: We have currently -10°C on the Farm and it can go down
> until -30°C (some years ago it was for one day -39°C),
> which increase the requirements on the Interphone.
> 
> Note 2: In 2017/2018 i used a Banana PI at a Sidele Interphone,
> but the BPI gaved up at -5°C and the Siedele at -20°C.

By "Interphone", do you mean a local voice and/or video system 
that doesn't connect to the general Internet?

As for your environmental requirements: does it have to operate
at -40, or just survive it for a few hours before warming back
up? Very few electronic devices are guaranteed to work below 0C.

I would suggest building a small insulated box to hold your
electronics, along with an incandescent lightbulb to provide
both light and heat. 

For general voice use, I like the Polycom IP3xx series. Their
video phones, however, are either very expensive or else consist
of a voice phone with a USB camera glued to the top.


-dsr-

Re: Interphone with SIP-Protocol

[Ben Oliver]

On 18-11-29 05:48:03, Dan Ritter wrote:

Michelle Konzack wrote:

Because my Portal is in a distance of 60m from the Serverbunker and I do
not like to install a seperated earth cable, I am now searching for an
IP/SIP based Interphone.  Best would be with Video.

Has someone experience with it and can suggest me a product?

Note 1: We have currently -10°C on the Farm and it can go down
until -30°C (some years ago it was for one day -39°C),
which increase the requirements on the Interphone.

Note 2: In 2017/2018 i used a Banana PI at a Sidele Interphone,
but the BPI gaved up at -5°C and the Siedele at -20°C.


By "Interphone", do you mean a local voice and/or video system
that doesn't connect to the general Internet?


Based on another reply, I think they meant an intercom/doorbell system.  
The sort of thing that sits on an outdoor wall.


If it's SIP based then I presumed a local PBX, but I might be wrong.


I would suggest building a small insulated box to hold your
electronics, along with an incandescent lightbulb to provide
both light and heat.


If I guessed right, I agree with you! There's not much out there that 
will go down to -30C without some sort of heating element.


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How to configure .pac proxy parameters?

[fredericmesplede]

Hello everyone,

I work in a high school where there is a wifi network. To connect to this 
network you need to enter a password, specify the proxy address (in gnome 
network manager) http://172.17.0.219/proxy.pac and then go to the captive 
portal on ac-amiens.fr to log in. I respect all these steps but systematically 
Chrome and Firefox show an error message "DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN". I 
cannot access the captive portal.

The .pac file contains:

function FindProxyForURL(url,host)
{
  if (shExpMatch(url,"*172.17.0.219*")) { return "DIRECT"; }
  else if (shExpMatch(url,"*.0600013n.*")) { return "DIRECT"; }
  else if (url.substring(0,5)=="http:") {return "PROXY 172.16.0.1:3128"; }
  else if (url.substring(0,6)=="https:") {return "PROXY 172.16.0.1:3128"; }
  else if (url.substring(0,4)=="ftp:") {return "PROXY 172.16.0.1:3128"; }
  else if (url.substring(0,7)=="gopher:") {return "PROXY 172.16.0.1:3128"; }
  else { return "DIRECT"; }
}

Whay should I do? Do I need to manually configure this proxy? Do I need to 
install a specific package?

Thank you for your help!

Re: modprobe bbswitch fails

[Johann Spies]

On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 23:16, Alexander V. Makartsev  wrote:

> I could be wrong, but specifications for this laptop suggest there should be 
> two graphics adapters inside. One is integrated inside CPU and one is 
> discrete. You can run 'glxgears' on any of them just fine, so double check if 
> you run it on nvidia adapter.
> You can do it with this command:
> $ glxinfo | egrep 'glx|OpenGL'

The output confirms that the NVIDIA card is used.  Both lshw and lspci
shows only the NVIDIA-card.

Thanks for reminding me to check again.

No wonder that I could not get bumblebee to run.

Regards
Johann
-- 
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my lips will praise you.  (Psalm 63:3)

Re: Interphone with SIP-Protocol

[David Wright]

On Thu 29 Nov 2018 at 05:48:03 (-0500), Dan Ritter wrote:
> As for your environmental requirements: does it have to operate
> at -40, or just survive it for a few hours before warming back
> up? Very few electronic devices are guaranteed to work below 0C.
> 
> I would suggest building a small insulated box to hold your
> electronics, along with an incandescent lightbulb to provide
> both light and heat. 

Polystyrene boxes are cheap and widely available. You could even
afford to nest them.

I'd grossly underrun any light bulbs so you don't have failures, and
I'd be tempted to use bulbs with blade-type connectors, perhaps
smeared with silicone grease so they don't corrode.

Cheers,
David.

Re: issues with stretch, part 1 of many

[Michael Wagner]

On Nov 27, 2018 at 20:02:19, Étienne Mollier wrote:
> 
> According to my experience, when ssh-agent is started, it is
> ready store passphrase and decipher the private key.  However,
> it doesn't do this automatically when I type my passphrase at
> a connection attempt.
> 
> Before issuing any SSH connection, I run ssh-add and type my
> passphrase.  Afterwards, I can connect to any machine accepting
> my key.  I'm not exactly sure this is the right way to do it in
> terms of security, but it does the job in terms of convenience.
> :^)

Hello Étienne,

I put this in my .bashrc


if [ ! -S ~/.ssh/ssh_auth_sock ]; then
  eval $(ssh-agent -t 43200)
  ln -sf "$SSH_AUTH_SOCK" ~/.ssh/ssh_auth_sock
fi
export SSH_AUTH_SOCK=~/.ssh/ssh_auth_sock
ssh-add -l | grep "The agent has no identities" && /usr/bin/ssh-add
---

So every time I login the first time, or when the last ssh-add command 
is older than 12h, I'll be asked for the passphrase of the key. 

Michael



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Re: issues with stretch, part 1 of many

[Étienne Mollier]

Michael Wagner, on 2018-11-29 :
> I put this in my .bashrc
>
> 
> if [ ! -S ~/.ssh/ssh_auth_sock ]; then
>   eval $(ssh-agent -t 43200)
>   ln -sf "$SSH_AUTH_SOCK" ~/.ssh/ssh_auth_sock
> fi
> export SSH_AUTH_SOCK=~/.ssh/ssh_auth_sock
> ssh-add -l | grep "The agent has no identities" &&
> /usr/bin/ssh-add
> ---
>
> So every time I login the first time, or when the last ssh-add command
> is older than 12h, I'll be asked for the passphrase of the key.

Good Day Michael,

That's good to know; many thanks for your input!

The best expiry implementation I had until then was that my
trusty terminal tends to be issued with reboots quite often.
Perhaps 14400 s of lifetime should be sufficient on my side;
seems sound for lunch break.

Maybe I'm missing something, but why the rewiring of the
authentication socket?
Mere convenience?

Kind Regards,
-- 
Étienne Mollier 

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: does anyone know how to calm down 'tracker-store'?

[Patrice Duroux]

Hi,

That is done under #915042.
I hope improving a bit the output by using 'coredumpctl debug' and adding some
other debugging symbol packages.

Many thanks!

Re: Buster: Kvirc: Bug 908420: Am I the only one who's having this issue?

[local10]

Nov 27, 2018, 7:24 PM by loca...@tutanota.com:

> Am I the only one who's having this issue? It's kind of annoying and there's 
> no response from the maintenance team:
>
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=908420 
> 
>

Anyone using Kvirc at all? Thanks

Re: Interphone with SIP-Protocol

[Michelle Konzack]

Hi,

Am DATE hackte AUTHOR in die Tasten: Dan Ritter
> By "Interphone", do you mean a local voice and/or video system
> that doesn't connect to the general Internet?

By Interphone I mean the door phone.

I think, "Interphone" is used in french
and in german it is called "Türsprechanlage".

But I like the idea of using the SIP Protocol, because I can redirect
the doorphone to any places of this planet.  Even if I am not at home,
I can see people ringing ar the door

> As for your environmental requirements: does it have to operate
> at -40, or just survive it for a few hours before warming back
> up? Very few electronic devices are guaranteed to work below 0C.

-40°C is very rare but it has to survive.

Normal estonian winter temperatures are between -15°C and -25°C.
So, the doorphone/interphone should work in this range.

> I would suggest building a small insulated box to hold your
> electronics, along with an incandescent lightbulb to provide
> both light and heat.
>
> For general voice use, I like the Polycom IP3xx series. Their
> video phones, however, are either very expensive or else consist
> of a voice phone with a USB camera glued to the top.

unfortunately not what I want/need


Thanks in advance

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GNU/Linux Developer 00372-54541400

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

[Brian]

On Wed 28 Nov 2018 at 20:18:25 +, Brian wrote:

> On Tue 27 Nov 2018 at 12:04:37 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > My understanding is .xsessionrc was created in order to give users a
> > modicum of control over their own lives if they happen to use GNOME.
> 
> It doesn't say that in #411639.
> 
> [...]

However:

https://wiki.debian.org/Xsession says (referring to ~/xsessionrc)

 There are typically three kinds of commands you may wish to use in this file:

   * You may place environment variable definitions here, directly: export 
SOME_VAR="some value"

This was the reason for ~/.xsessionrc coming into existence.

   * You may dot in some other POSIX shell configuration file: if [ -r 
~/.profile ]; then . ~/.profile; fi

A user can, but ~/xsessionrc wasn't invented for that. ~/.xsession was.

   * You may directly run X client programs: xclock -geometry +0+0 &

A user can, but ~/.xsessionrc definitely wasn't devised for that. OTOH,
~/.xsession was.

How does ~/.xsessionrc assume such importance over ~/.xsession in the
grand scheme of X things?

-- 
Brian

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

[Greg Wooledge]

On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 08:10:43PM +, Brian wrote:
> How does ~/.xsessionrc assume such importance over ~/.xsession in the
> grand scheme of X things?

Because it's the only file that's guaranteed to be read no matter what
kind of crazy nonstandard X session the user invokes (GNOME, I'm looking
at you).

Therefore, when writing a wiki page for the least knowledgeable end user,
it is the advice that I put *first*, with the description that this is
the *simplest* way of doing things.

Then I put the traditional "or .xsession but it only works if you ___" at
the end.  And I indicate that this is a more advanced way of doing things.
Therefore, users who self-identify as "advanced" will try that.  Whether
they are *actually* advanced is a different story, but they have been
given both choices, and appropriate descriptions and warnings.

Re: issues with stretch, issue 2 from many

[Brian]

On Thu 29 Nov 2018 at 15:17:03 -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 08:10:43PM +, Brian wrote:
> > How does ~/.xsessionrc assume such importance over ~/.xsession in the
> > grand scheme of X things?
> 
> Because it's the only file that's guaranteed to be read no matter what
> kind of crazy nonstandard X session the user invokes (GNOME, I'm looking
> at you).
> 
> Therefore, when writing a wiki page for the least knowledgeable end user,
> it is the advice that I put *first*, with the description that this is
> the *simplest* way of doing things.
> 
> Then I put the traditional "or .xsession but it only works if you ___" at
> the end.  And I indicate that this is a more advanced way of doing things.
> Therefore, users who self-identify as "advanced" will try that.  Whether
> they are *actually* advanced is a different story, but they have been
> given both choices, and appropriate descriptions and warnings.

So the page is about ~/xsessionrc and GNOME and gdm3. The title doesn't
reflect that. Nor does the (non-existent) page description.

  > kind of crazy nonstandard X session the user invokes (GNOME, I'm
  > looking at you).

indictes an agenda ("...crazy nonstandard...") which might be worthy of
addressing, but the page does little to indicate how a user would handle
a standard Debian Xsession and startx with ~/.xsession.

-- 
Brian.

Re: Buster: Kvirc: Bug 908420: Am I the only one who's having this issue?

[Étienne Mollier]

local10, on 2018-11-29:
> Nov 27, 2018, 7:24 PM by loca...@tutanota.com:
> > Am I the only one who's having this issue? It's kind of
> > annoying and there's no response from the maintenance team:
> >
> > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=908420
>
> Anyone using Kvirc at all? Thanks

Good Day,

I'm not a user of Kvirc myself, sticking to irssi.  However, out
of curiosity, I installed kvirc in a fully fledged KDE
environment (package task-kde-desktop) to see if I could
reproduce the problem.  And I believe I've been able to pinpoint
something.

It would seem that there is a trap with the naming convention of
the configuration *file* ~/.config/kvirc and the configuration
*directory* called ~/.config/KVIrc.  I've got both of these at
the end of a clean install, and after the first pass of the
wizard:

~/.config/KVIrc/
~/.config/kvirc

Currently, is your ~/.config/kvirc a file or a directory storing
your configuration ?

If that is a directory storing your configuration, what happens
if you rename it as, say, ~/.config/KVIrc and try to load this
one configuration directory instead?

Kind Regards,
-- 
Étienne Mollier 

[SOLVED] Re: Buster: Kvirc: Bug 908420: Am I the only one who's having this issue?

[local10]

Nov 29, 2018, 3:52 PM by etienne.moll...@mailoo.org:

> I'm not a user of Kvirc myself, sticking to irssi.  However, out
> of curiosity, I installed kvirc in a fully fledged KDE
> environment (package task-kde-desktop) to see if I could
> reproduce the problem.  And I believe I've been able to pinpoint
> something.
>
> It would seem that there is a trap with the naming convention of
> the configuration *file* ~/.config/kvirc and the configuration
> *directory* called ~/.config/KVIrc.  I've got both of these at
> the end of a clean install, and after the first pass of the
> wizard:
>
>  ~/.config/KVIrc/
>  ~/.config/kvirc
>

Yes.


> Currently, is your ~/.config/kvirc a file or a directory storing
> your configuration ?
>
> If that is a directory storing your configuration, what happens
> if you rename it as, say, ~/.config/KVIrc and try to load this
> one configuration directory instead?
>

I actually noticed it too and tried the trick with renaming directories before 
I filed the bug, it did not work for me. Now trying different things I found 
the winning combination I think that solves the issue:

1. Rename "old" ~/.config/kvirc into ~/.config/KVIrc
2. Create ~/.config/kvirc file (file, not folder) as follows:

$ ls -l ~/.config/kvirc
-rw--- 1 luser luser 76 Nov 29 17:34 /home/luser/.config/kvirc

$ cat ~/.config/kvirc
[Main]
LocalKvircDirectory=/home/luser/.config/KVIrc/
SourcesDate=538312962

The above solves the issue for me. The bug stands though as something really 
does not work right in the setup wizard.

Thanks for your help.

Re: Interphone with SIP-Protocol

[deloptes]

Michelle Konzack wrote:

> I do not think, it is a good idea to have such tough outdoor phone
> for several 100€ outside alone only 2 car hours away from the
> russian border...

Just speak Russian on the phone and be happy :)

Re: Interphone with SIP-Protocol

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 29 November 2018 18:28:24 deloptes wrote:

> Michelle Konzack wrote:
> > I do not think, it is a good idea to have such tough outdoor phone
> > for several 100€ outside alone only 2 car hours away from the
> > russian border...
>
> Just speak Russian on the phone and be happy :)

Or better yet, Navajo or Cherokee. Neither language has even a tendril of 
a root in any other language on this ball of rock.

-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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