Re: Question on dpkg -l output.

2018-12-21 Thread aprekates

Indeed some are virtual or pure virtual (although i dont know the diff)

But also there are packages like 'ergo' which look normal
and the only relation i think found (reason to display it) is because
libstd++6 depends on it.

Also listed packages like 'wink' not in the repos any more.


On 22/12/18 2:18 π.μ., Oliver Schoede wrote:

On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 01:10:34 +0200
aprekates  wrote:


In my case both:

$ dpkg -l w*

and

$ dpkg -l 'w*'

will report the same list


Hi!

I'm getting the same sort of output and it seems to me these are
packages, dpkg knows about providing some virtual packages,
that something else on your system depends upon, but which is already
satisfied in other ways. This would for instance
explain why I see w3m and chromium, although having had neither
installed at any time: both provide www-browser, and
something I have depends on it.

Cheers





Re: Question on dpkg -l output.

2018-12-21 Thread Oliver Schoede
On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 01:10:34 +0200
aprekates  wrote:

> In my case both:
> 
> $ dpkg -l w*
> 
> and
> 
> $ dpkg -l 'w*'
> 
> will report the same list
> 

Hi!

I'm getting the same sort of output and it seems to me these are
packages, dpkg knows about providing some virtual packages,
that something else on your system depends upon, but which is already
satisfied in other ways. This would for instance
explain why I see w3m and chromium, although having had neither
installed at any time: both provide www-browser, and
something I have depends on it.

Cheers



Re: Question on dpkg -l output.

2018-12-21 Thread aprekates

In my case both:

$ dpkg -l w*

and

$ dpkg -l 'w*'

will report the same list

# dpkg -l w*
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| 
Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend

|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version Architecture    
Description

+++--===-===-=
un  w-bassman     (no 
description available)
un  w3m     (no description 
available)
un  wajig     (no 
description available)
ii  wamerican    7.1-1 all 
American English dictionary words for /usr/share/dict
un  watch     (no 
description available)
un  wbritish     (no 
description available)
un  wdiff     (no 
description available)
un  wesnoth-1.12-core     
(no description available)
ii  wget 1.18-5+deb9u2 
amd64   retrieves files from the web
un  wget-ssl     (no 
description available)
ii  whiptail 0.52.19-1+b1 
amd64   Displays user-friendly dialog boxes from shell 
scripts
un  whiptail-utf8     (no 
description available)
un  whois     (no 
description available)
un  widelands     (no 
description available)
un  wink     (no description 
available)
un  wordlist     (no 
description available)
un  www-browser     (no 
description available)


On 22/12/18 1:07 π.μ., Dan Ritter wrote:

Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:

On 21 de dezembro de 2018 20:24, aprekates wrote:

In a new installed system with Debian 9.6

$ dpkg -l

will list only packages with 'ii' state and a couple of 'rc'.

But if i  run:

$ dpkg -l w*

i will get a dozen also of 'un' packages.

So i dont understand the logic of altering the output when
i use a pattern . I would expect to see only 'ii' packages starting
from the letter 'w' .

Also i dont understand why in a new system dpkg would know
anything about uninstalled packages!

dpkg -l w*
will be expanded by the shell (if there is any file starting with w in the 
current directory).

Have you tried
dpkg -l 'w*'

Let's see:

dpkg -l w*
dpkg-query: no packages found matching webplot.txt

dpkg -l 'w*'
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
|
Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name   Version  Architecture Description
+++-==---=
un  w-bassman(no description
available)
ii  w3m0.5.3-34+deb amd64WWW browsable pager
with excellen
un  w3m-el   (no description
available)
un  w3m-img  (no description
available)
un  w3m-ssl  (no description
available)
un  w3mmee   (no description
available)
un  wacom-tools  (no description
available)
un  wajig(no description
available)
ii  wamerican  7.1-1all  American English
dictionary words
un  watch(no description
available)
un  watchdog (no description
available)
un  wbritish (no description
available)
un  wdiff(no description
available)



-dsr-





Re: Question on dpkg -l output.

2018-12-21 Thread Dan Ritter
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: 
> On 21 de dezembro de 2018 20:24, aprekates wrote:
> > In a new installed system with Debian 9.6
> > 
> > $ dpkg -l
> > 
> > will list only packages with 'ii' state and a couple of 'rc'.
> > 
> > But if i  run:
> > 
> > $ dpkg -l w*
> > 
> > i will get a dozen also of 'un' packages.
> > 
> > So i dont understand the logic of altering the output when
> > i use a pattern . I would expect to see only 'ii' packages starting
> > from the letter 'w' .
> > 
> > Also i dont understand why in a new system dpkg would know
> > anything about uninstalled packages!
> 
> dpkg -l w*
> will be expanded by the shell (if there is any file starting with w in the 
> current directory). 
> 
> Have you tried
> dpkg -l 'w*' 

Let's see:

dpkg -l w*
dpkg-query: no packages found matching webplot.txt

dpkg -l 'w*'
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
|
Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name   Version  Architecture Description
+++-==---=
un  w-bassman(no description
available)
ii  w3m0.5.3-34+deb amd64WWW browsable pager
with excellen
un  w3m-el   (no description
available)
un  w3m-img  (no description
available)
un  w3m-ssl  (no description
available)
un  w3mmee   (no description
available)
un  wacom-tools  (no description
available)
un  wajig(no description
available)
ii  wamerican  7.1-1all  American English
dictionary words
un  watch(no description
available)
un  watchdog (no description
available)
un  wbritish (no description
available)
un  wdiff(no description
available)



-dsr-



Re: Question on dpkg -l output.

2018-12-21 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On 21 de dezembro de 2018 20:24, aprekates wrote:
> In a new installed system with Debian 9.6
> 
> $ dpkg -l
> 
> will list only packages with 'ii' state and a couple of 'rc'.
> 
> But if i  run:
> 
> $ dpkg -l w*
> 
> i will get a dozen also of 'un' packages.
> 
> So i dont understand the logic of altering the output when
> i use a pattern . I would expect to see only 'ii' packages starting
> from the letter 'w' .
> 
> Also i dont understand why in a new system dpkg would know
> anything about uninstalled packages!

dpkg -l w*
will be expanded by the shell (if there is any file starting with w in the 
current directory). 

Have you tried
dpkg -l 'w*' 
? 



Question on dpkg -l output.

2018-12-21 Thread aprekates

In a new installed system with Debian 9.6

$ dpkg -l

will list only packages with 'ii' state and a couple of 'rc'.

But if i  run:

$ dpkg -l w*

i will get a dozen also of 'un' packages.

So i dont understand the logic of altering the output when
i use a pattern . I would expect to see only 'ii' packages starting
from the letter 'w' .

Also i dont understand why in a new system dpkg would know
anything about uninstalled packages!

alexandros



Re: do you find old firefox is better than new one?

2018-12-21 Thread Doug



On 12/21/2018 10:35 AM, Michelle Konzack wrote:

Hello Stefan,

Am 2018-12-20 hackte Stefan Monnier in die Tasten:

It's too easy to click it by mistake.
I want to turn off not just the misfeature but also the popup.

I found after a long search in a bunch of forum articles and in
bugzilla (YES, it is a very well known bug!)

about:config :

media.gmp-widevinecdm.enabled  ->  false
media.gmp-widevinecdm.visible  ->  false

and the problem is regulated!


 Stefan
I gave up on Firefox a long time ago. They keep changing the program, 
changing the GUI,
and I can't stand it. I have been using the PaleMoon Browser, which 
seems to be a clone
of some earlier version of Firefox, and they don't mess with it all the 
time, like Mozilla.

--doug



Re: do you find old firefox is better than new one?

2018-12-21 Thread deloptes
Michelle Konzack wrote:

> ~/.cache/mozilla//cache2/entries/
> 
> 26 GByte in 186.713 files!
> 
> I have 18 profiles and the whole
> ~/.cache/mozilla/
> has currently 38GByte in total.

Cool - so you suffer multiple personality disorder :) ... 18 of them

I found only two here and size is 1.1

Thanks for pointing to this.

regards



Re: Ayuda nextcloud

2018-12-21 Thread Felix Perez
El vie., 21 de dic. de 2018 a la(s) 14:08, sandy.macias
(sandy.mac...@protonmail.ch) escribió:
>
> Ayuda con nextcloud alguien sabe porque cunado hago conferencia de video ,me 
> sale bien con la gente que tengo en m icentro laboral pero cuando lo quiero 
> hacer con otr ousuario de otro ip me sale la pantalla en negra
>

Por favor indicar en el asunto OT.
¿Preguntaste en la lista o foro de nextcloud?
¿Te refieres dentro de la misma red o desde internet?
¿revisaste políticas del firewall?

Por favor no hagas la misma pregunta en distintos hilos.

Gracias.


-- 
usuario linux  #274354
normas de la lista:  http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista
como hacer preguntas inteligentes:
http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html



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Ayuda nextcloud

2018-12-21 Thread sandy.macias
Ayuda con nextcloud alguien sabe porque cunado hago conferencia de video ,me 
sale bien con la gente que tengo en m icentro laboral pero cuando lo quiero 
hacer con otr ousuario de otro ip me sale la pantalla en negra

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Re: Ayuda nextcloud

2018-12-21 Thread Paynalton
Si un ave no rompe su huevo morirá antes de nacer.
Nosotros somos el ave y el mundo es nuestro huevo.
POR LA REVOLUCIÓN DEL MUNDO

Ciudad de México


El vie., 21 dic. 2018 a las 11:08, sandy.macias ()
escribió:

> Ayuda con nextcloud alguien sabe porque cunado hago conferencia de video
> ,me sale bien con la gente que tengo en m icentro laboral pero cuando lo
> quiero hacer con otr ousuario de otro ip me sale la pantalla en negra
>
>
no he usado nextcloud, pero este tipo de problemas suceden usualmente
porque hay algún firewall enmedio cerrando un puerto-


>
> Sent with ProtonMail  Secure Email.
>
>


Ayuda nextcloud

2018-12-21 Thread sandy.macias
Ayuda con nextcloud alguien sabe porque cunado hago conferencia de video ,me 
sale bien con la gente que tengo en m icentro laboral pero cuando lo quiero 
hacer con otr ousuario de otro ip me sale la pantalla en negra

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Re: do you find old firefox is better than new one?

2018-12-21 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 12/16/18, Long Wind  wrote:
> On Sunday, December 16, 2018 7:07 PM, Eike Lantzsch 
> wrote:
>
> Usually I don't reply AOL but in this case I second that.
> I'm an unhappy Firefox-user on Debian and am looking for alternatives.
> Yes, I do have many tabs open, 'cause I need them. I got plenty of memory
> but Firefox does not seem to use it efficiently.
>
> On Sunday, December 16, 2018 9:32:07 AM -03 Long Wind wrote:
>> i have 52.9.0 and 45.9.0, both for stretch
>> new one often becomes unresponsive,
> or slows down extremely ...
>> and i have to close it and restart it
>> it often happens when i first start it
>> maybe some function/service is blocked in China
> I cannot second this behaviour. Do you use some or many extensions? Maybe
> legacy add-ons?
> What about scripting on those pages? Here often enough scripts are stopped.
>> it seems it's doing something impossible, and takes much cpu resource
>> but old firefox also face blocking
> Often 1 cpu of 4 is 100% in use without anything happening.
>>
>
> Thanks! i don't have any add-on on both firefoxesand i haven't check
> scripting on web pagesand maybe i'm unable to read scripts


What I read into what Eike wrote about scripting is what I experience.
There's an alert/warning that pops up asking if you want the script to
continue processing or do you want to shut it down because it's
slowing things down too much.

Mine has never clued me as to what was the immediate culprit. It's
possible I just wasn't paying close enough attention.

*Unless I'm in a humongous hurry*, those messages have never caused
undue duress. Each occurrence was triggered by not keeping an eye on
memory usage combined with whatever action I've just asked the browser
to perform.

No, no add-ons. Haven't had any in many years. Things started getting
too scary in that realm. :)

Anyway, I decided to chime in on this thread because I just found out
I had ANOTHER 1,042 tabs open THIS time. That occurred over the last 2
weeks of websurfing.

"free -m" is showing this:

  totalusedfree  shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:986 747  94  40 145  76
Swap:  3999 9413058

Thunar, GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program), and two tabs of
xfce4-terminal are also all open during that output there. That's on
my little Valentine's Day colored ASUS 1015px, 500GB hard drive with
four partitions that include that swap space.

This is for Firefox Quantum 62.0.3. I've played around with 63 and 65,
but seem to keep having to come back to that 62.0.3 for some reason.

This browser's been open for about a day and a half now. Several
HUNDRED of those tabs are currently "alive" and actively in use for
whatever various reasons of information gathering.

For me, it's phenomenal. Never had that fortune with respect to any
browsers. I did flub up the libjs package assortment during my last
debootstrap'ing. I forgot to take notes when I got a good combination
to work mid-November. A couple of frequently visited pages are back to
working haphazardly when they had just begun finally working
consistently. *smack my head!*

Several of the currently live tabs are about building the elinks
terminal text browser with javascript capability. Knowledge that
that's even a thing came about k/t finding out my bank demands
javascript capability. My bank's website closes my banking session
(logs me out) the second it determines javascript isn't going to
happen via a base elinks installation.

The instructions for building elinks with javascript weren't hard to
follow, but my effort got hung up by a missing header file at the
./configure step early on. Midway through trying to work that out, I
was startled by two new directories under root: /lib32 and /libx32.

Those two new directories undoubtedly came about while playing with
package libx32gcc1 and a couple related things. I smell another
debootstrap coming on way sooner than later. Business as usual. A
two-day old instance of Buster's core files is sitting in the wings
twiddling its thumbs as I type this. :)

Cindy :)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with birdseed *



Re: do you find old firefox is better than new one?

2018-12-21 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am DATE hackte AUTHOR in die Tasten: deloptes
> Michelle Konzack wrote:
>
>> I have no .mozilla file.
>> But the Diskspace is realy 26 GByte.
> it is not a file - it is directory and how do you know it is 26GB -

~/.cache/mozilla//cache2/entries/

26 GByte in 186.713 files!

I have 18 profiles and the whole
~/.cache/mozilla/
has currently 38GByte in total.


> where do
> you look at?
>
> Strange what you are saying
>
> regards

-- 
Michelle KonzackMiila ITSystems @ TDnet
GNU/Linux Developer 00372-54541400



Re: do you find old firefox is better than new one?

2018-12-21 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Stefan,

Am 2018-12-20 hackte Stefan Monnier in die Tasten:
>
> It's too easy to click it by mistake.
> I want to turn off not just the misfeature but also the popup.

I found after a long search in a bunch of forum articles and in
bugzilla (YES, it is a very well known bug!)

about:config :

media.gmp-widevinecdm.enabled  ->  false
media.gmp-widevinecdm.visible  ->  false

and the problem is regulated!

> Stefan

-- 
Michelle KonzackMiila ITSystems @ TDnet
GNU/Linux Developer 00372-54541400



Re: [HS] enquête nationale sur la réparabilité des objets

2018-12-21 Thread Belaïd
Surtout avec tous les problèmes que je vois tous les jours dans mon travail
 liés aux mises à jours Windows 10 ces derniers temps  !  Je me demande
comment on peut encore bosser avec garantie sur cet OS !

Le ven. 21 déc. 2018 12:03, ajh-valmer  a écrit :

> > > On Thursday 20 December 2018 09:02:08 daniel huhardeaux wrote:
> > >> Si je peux me permettre, critiquer Google alors que l'on est 100%
> > >> Microsoft (Windows10, outlook.fr, outlook.com) et qui au passage
> > >> représente le M de GAFAM, me fait sourire.
>
> > Le 20/12/2018 à 19:17, ajh-valmer a écrit :
> > > Windows10, outlook.fr, ne représente pas 100% :
>
> On Thursday 20 December 2018 09:02:08 daniel huhardeaux wrote:
> > Je parlai à HERMITE OURS rebelle, lui est 100%
> > Je ne vous visais pas, faut savoir suivre ...
>
> Désolé, erreur de ma part, Ouf alors.
>
> Pauvre HERMITE OURS rebelle qui est 100% Windows10 + outlook,
> il n'est jamais trop tard pour venir dans le bon chemin,
> GNU/Linux et ses logiciels Libres
> :-)
>
>


Re: [HS] enquête nationale sur la réparabilité des objets

2018-12-21 Thread ajh-valmer
> > On Thursday 20 December 2018 09:02:08 daniel huhardeaux wrote:
> >> Si je peux me permettre, critiquer Google alors que l'on est 100%
> >> Microsoft (Windows10, outlook.fr, outlook.com) et qui au passage
> >> représente le M de GAFAM, me fait sourire.

> Le 20/12/2018 à 19:17, ajh-valmer a écrit :
> > Windows10, outlook.fr, ne représente pas 100% :

On Thursday 20 December 2018 09:02:08 daniel huhardeaux wrote:
> Je parlai à HERMITE OURS rebelle, lui est 100%
> Je ne vous visais pas, faut savoir suivre ...

Désolé, erreur de ma part, Ouf alors.

Pauvre HERMITE OURS rebelle qui est 100% Windows10 + outlook,
il n'est jamais trop tard pour venir dans le bon chemin,
GNU/Linux et ses logiciels Libres
:-)



Ipfire vs Debian

2018-12-21 Thread Frederic Zulian
Bonjour,

J'ai 3 serveurs à installer avec :
Routage, DNS, DHCP, coupures Internet 23h/7h) + un filtrage basique
(dansguardian).

J'étais lancé sur une netinstall Debian  + rajout de quelques paquets
lorsque je me suis dit que Ipfire devrait pouvoir le faire  en plus simple
avec sa config ncurses au moins pour la partie routage//firewall.

PS : si vous avez une idée plus simple pour filtrer que le bazard squid +
dansguardian, je suis aussi preneur :-)


Frédéric ZULIAN


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Re: Malicious command and Ubuntu Forums

2018-12-21 Thread Dominik George
> [...]
So, this is not an Ubuntu mailing list, right?

>[quote] Ubuntu Forums has a strict zero-tolerance policy when it comes
>to
>posting dangerous commands.

Oh... Aren't that the people who have

$ sudo chmod 777 /etc/passwd; gedit /etc/passwd

all over their Wiki :D?

-nik



Re: Error después de instal Debian buster en Lenovo ideapad 330

2018-12-21 Thread Galvatorix Torixgalva
Hola,

confirma que los dispositivos de bluetooth y la wifi estan soportados por
Debian.

Un saludo