Re: Print Settings issue

[Charles Curley]

On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 11:50:13 +0800
kaye n  wrote:

> Printing service not available.  Start the service on this computer or
> connect to another server.
> 
> Also the Add button is greyed out.
> 
> Is this normal? How do I add a printer? It's an Epson printer, if it
> matters.

I have the best success setting up printers using CUP's web interface,
which requires a running web server.

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Print Settings issue

[kaye n]

Hello Friends!

I have successfully installed:

debian-live-10.2.0-amd64-xfce+nonfree.iso

onto my laptop computer.

If I open Print Settings, I get the following message on its GUI

Printing service not available.  Start the service on this computer or
connect to another server.

Also the Add button is greyed out.

Is this normal? How do I add a printer? It's an Epson printer, if it
matters.

Many thanks!
Kaye

Re: how to create debian live usb

[kaye n]

On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 4:44 PM Thomas Schmitt  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> kaye n wrote:
> > it seemed ok, but this is what gparted is showing:
> > First partition is a mere 2.88MB FAT32 partition.  The rest is
> unallocated
> > partition, 14.43gb. Obviously it failed again.
>
> Not necessarily.
> As said, the partition editors hate the isohybrid partition layout.
>
> Use fdisk for inspection, if you are curious.
>
> Just try whether it boots, if you just want to run the Live system.
>

Hi friends, just wanted to let you guys know that I've successfully
installed:

debian-live-10.2.0-amd64-xfce+nonfree.iso

on my laptop computer.

It seems Thomas Schmitt is right about partition editors not working well
with isohybrid partition layout; GParted was showing me that I had failed
in creating a live USB, but I really did not, it booted and installed just
fine.

I think I used fdisk to format the flash drive, then I used the cp command
to write the isohybrid to flash drive.

It seems all is well now except for printing.

I'll create another thread for it.

Thank you for your time!

Re: [HS?] agrégation de lien

[Gaëtan Perrier]

Bonsoir,

Et dans le cas que je vise je peux obtenir 2 Gb ou pas alors ?

A+

Gaëtan

Le lundi 06 janvier 2020 à 21:38 +0100, Gwennhaël QUIEF a écrit :
> Bonsoir,
> 
> L'agrégation permet de "mutualiser" des liaisons physique un un lien
> logique. 
> Cependant, la répartition à travers l'un des liens physique est fait
> généralement sur l'adresse mac ou il ou encore le port.
> 
> Ton exemple est un agrégat LACP
> https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.3ad
> 
> Ainsi, par exemple, un flux web en port 443 entre les adresses IP 1 et 2 et
> respectivement les @mac A et B passant pas un agrégat de 2 câbles 1Gb chacun
> soit un "tuyau" de 2Gb ne dépassera pas la limite théorique du 1Gb ... :/
> 
> 
> 
> Cordialement
> Gwenn
> 
> Le lun. 6 janv. 2020 à 14:42, Alexandre GRIVEAUX  a
> écrit :
> > Le 06/01/2020 à 14:00, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit :
> > > Le lundi 06 janvier 2020 à 13:26 +0100, Alexandre GRIVEAUX a écrit :
> > >> Le 06/01/2020 à 02:27, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit :
> > >>> Bonjour,
> > >>>
> > >>> Une question un poil HS mais pas totalement non plus vu que c'est pour
> > >>> connecter des PC sous Debian à un NAS.
> > >>> Celui-ci va disposer de 2 ports réseaux pouvant fonctionner en
> > agrégation.
> > >>> Si je mets 2 cartes réseaux sur les PCs est-ce que je pourrais aussi
> > les
> > >>> faire
> > >>> fonctionner en agrégation et au final est-ce que j'obtiendrai des
> > débits
> > >>> plus
> > >>> importants entre le NAS et un PC ?
> > >>> Mes recherches sur internet ne m'ont pas donné de réponses claires sur
> > le
> > >>> sujet.
> > >>>
> > >>> Gaëtan
> > >> Bonjour,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Oui c'est possible mais il faudrait un switch entre toutes les machines
> > >> et qui le permet (802.3ad/802.1ax)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Alex.
> > >
> > > Oui bien sur pour le switch. Je pensais au Netgear GS108Tv3 ?
> > >
> > > A+
> > >
> > > Gaëtan
> > 
> > A priori oui.
> > 
> > 
> > Alex
> > 
> > 



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Re: MUA CLI IMAP and SMTP without ncurses interface

[Håkon Alstadheim]

Den 04.01.2020 15:54, skrev john doe:

[mail] without ncurses?

...

  I also need to configure IMAP and SMTP access,
is there a MUA which does IMAP SMTP that does not rely on ncurses?


nmh (and its various front-ends) do not depend upon ncurses. There are 
front-ends written in emacs-lisp (mh-e) and tcl (exmh) that are part of 
debian.


Take a look online https://www.nongnu.org/nmh/ or in the manual (debian 
package "mh-book" )


Drop the guys at nmh-work...@nongnu.org a line. Low traffic and helpful 
bunch.


nmh by default fetches all incoming mail to a directory under $HOME, and 
is geared towards using standard unix commands (like grep) to work with 
individual mails. Works well for filing stuff into folders, stripping 
unwanted formatting, and keeping track of mail.


nmh does not work well for accessing your mail from multiple, different 
client machines.

Re: insserv: FATAL: service mountkernfs is missed

[Pascal Hambourg]

Le 05/01/2020 à 23:50, Pascal Hambourg a écrit :

Le 05/01/2020 à 21:57, ajh-valmer a écrit :


"S01mountkernfs.sh" est dans /etc/rcS.d
mais pas de mountkernfs.sh dans "sysv-rc-conf".

Aucun "S01mountkernfs.sh" dans les rc1.d à rc6.d.


Bizarre.


Au temps pour moi. Rien de bizarre, la présence dans rcS.d seul est 
normale et correspond au contenu de l'en-tête LSB.

Re: errors installing new kernal

[Frank McCormick]

On 1/6/20 5:10 PM, Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2020-01-06 16:28 -0500, Frank McCormick wrote:


Updating  Debian Sid today..  a new kernel was part of the
installation..apt spit out a couple of pages of this error:



depmod: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:515 lookup_builtin_file() could
not open builtin file
'/var/tmp/mkinitramfs_q9Lba2/lib/modules/5.4.0-2-amd64/modules.builtin.bin'
depmod: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:515 lookup_builtin_file() could
not open builtin file
'/var/tmp/mkinitramfs_q9Lba2/lib/modules/5.4.0-2-amd64/modules.builtin.bin'
depmod: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:515 lookup_builtin_file() could
not open builtin file
'/var/tmp/mkinitramfs_q9Lba2/lib/modules/5.4.0-2-amd64/modules.builtin.bin'


That's a side effect of the recent kmod upload, the new kernel is only
involved because an initramfs had to be created for it.  See
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=948257.


  System seems unaffected. Is this error serious??


No, your system should boot just fine.

Cheers,
Sven



  Good news. Thanks


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Re: errors installing new kernal

[Sven Joachim]

On 2020-01-06 16:28 -0500, Frank McCormick wrote:

> Updating  Debian Sid today..  a new kernel was part of the
> installation..apt spit out a couple of pages of this error:
>
>
>
> depmod: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:515 lookup_builtin_file() could
> not open builtin file
> '/var/tmp/mkinitramfs_q9Lba2/lib/modules/5.4.0-2-amd64/modules.builtin.bin'
> depmod: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:515 lookup_builtin_file() could
> not open builtin file
> '/var/tmp/mkinitramfs_q9Lba2/lib/modules/5.4.0-2-amd64/modules.builtin.bin'
> depmod: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:515 lookup_builtin_file() could
> not open builtin file
> '/var/tmp/mkinitramfs_q9Lba2/lib/modules/5.4.0-2-amd64/modules.builtin.bin'

That's a side effect of the recent kmod upload, the new kernel is only
involved because an initramfs had to be created for it.  See
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=948257.

>  System seems unaffected. Is this error serious??

No, your system should boot just fine.

Cheers,
   Sven

Re: buster xfce fails to start

[Russell L. Harris]

On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 03:33:25PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:

Why can't you just "apt-get install firmware-amd-graphics"?  Is the
machine lacking a network connection?  You don't have to reinstall
from scratch for this.


Thanks.  I have been using synaptic for so long that I forgot about
apt-get.

Re: buster xfce fails to start

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Lu, 06 ian 20, 20:22:14, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 03:12:45PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > Sounds like you need to install firmware-amd-graphics.  It's in the
> > non-free section, so make sure you've enabled non-free and contrib.
> 
> I did that when setting up the mirror (which is debian.org via my
> approx server).  Again, I have installed Debian dozens of times, using
> EXPERT mode, and so am reasonably familiar with the installer.
> 
> I suppose that I need to download the firmware on another machine and
> copy it to USB flash, and then reinstall the system.  That is one
> thing (finding and downloading firmware) which I do not recall ever
> having done.

In case you ever need to reinstall this machine do note there is also a 
netinst image including non-free firmware.

Pointing a search engine to debian.org should find it, even if it's not 
advertised like the free images.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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errors installing new kernal

[Frank McCormick]

Updating  Debian Sid today..  a new kernel was part of the 
installation..apt spit out a couple of pages of this error:




depmod: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:515 lookup_builtin_file() could not 
open builtin file 
'/var/tmp/mkinitramfs_q9Lba2/lib/modules/5.4.0-2-amd64/modules.builtin.bin'
depmod: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:515 lookup_builtin_file() could not 
open builtin file 
'/var/tmp/mkinitramfs_q9Lba2/lib/modules/5.4.0-2-amd64/modules.builtin.bin'
depmod: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:515 lookup_builtin_file() could not 
open builtin file 
'/var/tmp/mkinitramfs_q9Lba2/lib/modules/5.4.0-2-amd64/modules.builtin.bin'



 System seems unaffected. Is this error serious??


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[solved] Re: buster xfce fails to start

[Russell L. Harris]

On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 08:58:06PM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:

On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 03:33:25PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:

Why can't you just "apt-get install firmware-amd-graphics"?  Is the
machine lacking a network connection?  You don't have to reinstall
from scratch for this.


Thanks.  I have been using synaptic for so long that I forgot about
apt-get.


I thank you; that worked; Buster with XFCE is running on my AMD
desktop.

Buster may bring a few surprises, but at least XFCE is familiar
territory.

RLH

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

[deloptes]

Dan Ritter wrote:

> I have found, in troubleshooting complex systems, that blaming
> all the working things for the failure of the non-working thing
> doesn't lead to good results.

I am not sure what you mean exactly, but everyone is allowed to have his or
her point of view.

Re: buster xfce fails to start

[Russell L. Harris]

On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 02:11:52PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:

Based on this, it sounds like the X server is starting and then dying
quickly.  The next step would be to find its log file -- either
~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log or /var/log/Xorg.0.log depending on
stuff.


(EE) open /dev/dri/card 0: No such file or directory
(WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting
...
(EE) Unable to find a valid framebuffer device
...
(EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section.
...
(EE) Fatal server error:
(EE) Cannot run in framebuffer mode.  Please specify busIDs for all
framebuffer devices



It might also be helpful to show the output of "lspci -nn"


VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices,
Inc. [AMD/ATI] Trinity [Radeon HD 7540D] [1002:9991]



output of "dmesg | grep -i firmware"


...
[drm: radeon_pci_probe [radeon]] *ERROR* radeon kernel modesetting for
R600 or later requires firmware installed
...

Re: buster xfce fails to start

[Russell L. Harris]

On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 03:12:45PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:

Sounds like you need to install firmware-amd-graphics.  It's in the
non-free section, so make sure you've enabled non-free and contrib.


I did that when setting up the mirror (which is debian.org via my
approx server).  Again, I have installed Debian dozens of times, using
EXPERT mode, and so am reasonably familiar with the installer.

I suppose that I need to download the firmware on another machine and
copy it to USB flash, and then reinstall the system.  That is one
thing (finding and downloading firmware) which I do not recall ever
having done.

Re: [HS?] agrégation de lien

[Gwennhaël QUIEF]

Bonsoir,

L'agrégation permet de "mutualiser" des liaisons physique un un lien
logique.
Cependant, la répartition à travers l'un des liens physique est fait
généralement sur l'adresse mac ou il ou encore le port.

Ton exemple est un agrégat LACP
https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.3ad

Ainsi, par exemple, un flux web en port 443 entre les adresses IP 1 et 2 et
respectivement les @mac A et B passant pas un agrégat de 2 câbles 1Gb
chacun soit un "tuyau" de 2Gb ne dépassera pas la limite théorique du 1Gb
... :/



Cordialement
Gwenn

Le lun. 6 janv. 2020 à 14:42, Alexandre GRIVEAUX  a
écrit :

> Le 06/01/2020 à 14:00, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit :
> > Le lundi 06 janvier 2020 à 13:26 +0100, Alexandre GRIVEAUX a écrit :
> >> Le 06/01/2020 à 02:27, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit :
> >>> Bonjour,
> >>>
> >>> Une question un poil HS mais pas totalement non plus vu que c'est pour
> >>> connecter des PC sous Debian à un NAS.
> >>> Celui-ci va disposer de 2 ports réseaux pouvant fonctionner en
> agrégation.
> >>> Si je mets 2 cartes réseaux sur les PCs est-ce que je pourrais aussi
> les
> >>> faire
> >>> fonctionner en agrégation et au final est-ce que j'obtiendrai des
> débits
> >>> plus
> >>> importants entre le NAS et un PC ?
> >>> Mes recherches sur internet ne m'ont pas donné de réponses claires sur
> le
> >>> sujet.
> >>>
> >>> Gaëtan
> >> Bonjour,
> >>
> >>
> >> Oui c'est possible mais il faudrait un switch entre toutes les machines
> >> et qui le permet (802.3ad/802.1ax)
> >>
> >>
> >> Alex.
> >
> > Oui bien sur pour le switch. Je pensais au Netgear GS108Tv3 ?
> >
> > A+
> >
> > Gaëtan
>
> A priori oui.
>
>
> Alex
>
>
>

Re: buster xfce fails to start

[Greg Wooledge]

On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 08:22:14PM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 03:12:45PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > Sounds like you need to install firmware-amd-graphics.  It's in the
> > non-free section, so make sure you've enabled non-free and contrib.
> 
> I did that when setting up the mirror (which is debian.org via my
> approx server).  Again, I have installed Debian dozens of times, using
> EXPERT mode, and so am reasonably familiar with the installer.
> 
> I suppose that I need to download the firmware on another machine and
> copy it to USB flash, and then reinstall the system.  That is one
> thing (finding and downloading firmware) which I do not recall ever
> having done.

Why can't you just "apt-get install firmware-amd-graphics"?  Is the
machine lacking a network connection?  You don't have to reinstall
from scratch for this.

Re: buster xfce fails to start

[ghe]

On 1/6/20 10:48 AM, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 09:42:46AM -0500, Kenneth Parker wrote:

>> That's funny:  I installed Buster on a Laptop just last week via
>> netinst, and
>> selected xfce (Expert Install menu), and got lightdm.  What's
>> different with
>> the Original Poster?   For example, did you forget to Select a Username?

Oops. I forgot that the first thing I do is replace lightdm -:)

> P.S. I specified XCFE because I hate the Gnome scheme ("It's there,
> but invisible; just search for it with the mouse."); I need to see
> menus.

XFCE's way less 'user friendly' than Gnome. But when you get used to it,
you'll be much happier, IMHO.

> P.P.S.  Typing "startx" at the CLI returns an error message, something
> like "xserver not available"...

Something's bent. I've never had your problem(s) either. It looks to me
like something's missing in X. If I were in your situation, I wouldn't
waste time trying to figure out what's missing and what to do about it.

Perhaps a reinstall in in order. Do you use the 'Expert Install' menu?
Kenneth and I do, and it works real good for both of us.

-- 
Glenn English

Re: buster xfce fails to start

[Greg Wooledge]

On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 08:00:10PM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > It might also be helpful to show the output of "lspci -nn"
> 
> VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices,
> Inc. [AMD/ATI] Trinity [Radeon HD 7540D] [1002:9991]
> 
> 
> > output of "dmesg | grep -i firmware"
> 
> ...
> [drm: radeon_pci_probe [radeon]] *ERROR* radeon kernel modesetting for
> R600 or later requires firmware installed
> ...

Sounds like you need to install firmware-amd-graphics.  It's in the
non-free section, so make sure you've enabled non-free and contrib.

Re: buster xfce fails to start

[Russell L. Harris]

On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 01:18:07PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 05:48:24PM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
Why be imprecise like this?  Why not type out the exact error
message?


Here is a transcript from the screen of about a half of the lines
displayed (offhand, I do not know how to capture the response and get
it from the other machine to this one):


X.Org X Server 1.20.4
...
Current version of pixman: 0.36.0
...
(==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
...
xinit: giving up
xinit: unable to connect to X server:  Connection refused
xinit: server error




Anyway, it *maybe* sounds like X isn't installed.  I would try
"apt-get install xorg".  If that actually installs a bunch of stuff,
then the guess was correct.

And, if X isn't installed, then it's possible that your chosen desktop
environment isn't installed either.  So you might need to install that
as well.


I installed via my local approx server, so I presume the easiest approach
is a fresh netinstall.

I routinely install via text-mode rather than GUI, and EXPERT mode.

Re: buster xfce fails to start

[Greg Wooledge]

On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 07:01:24PM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 01:18:07PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 05:48:24PM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > Why be imprecise like this?  Why not type out the exact error
> > message?
> 
> Here is a transcript from the screen of about a half of the lines
> displayed (offhand, I do not know how to capture the response and get
> it from the other machine to this one):
> 
> 
> X.Org X Server 1.20.4

OK, my guess was wrong.

> ...
> Current version of pixman: 0.36.0
> ...
> (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
> ...
> xinit: giving up
> xinit: unable to connect to X server:  Connection refused
> xinit: server error

Based on this, it sounds like the X server is starting and then dying
quickly.  The next step would be to find its log file -- either
~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log or /var/log/Xorg.0.log depending on stuff.

The contents of the X log file will hopefully give some clue as to why
it's dying.

It might also be helpful to show the output of "lspci -nn" and the
output of "dmesg | grep -i firmware" (the latter may require root).

Re: buster xfce fails to start

[Brian]

On Mon 06 Jan 2020 at 09:42:46 -0500, Kenneth Parker wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 6, 2020, 4:18 AM ghe  wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > > On Jan 6, 2020, at 01:37 AM, Russell L. Harris 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I just installed Buster via netinst on an amd desktop.  I specified
> > > xfce.  The system boots but no login screen or GUI appears.  Alt-F4
> > > allows me to log in and reboot or shutdown.
> >
> > XFCE doesn't have a GUI login; you have to install one. I've used slim for
> > years, on many computers.
> >
> > Or you can just log in to the CLI and type 'startx.'
> 
> 
> That's funny:  I installed Buster on a Laptop just last week via netinst,
> and selected xfce (Expert Install menu), and got lightdm.  What's different
> with the Original Poster?

ghe has likely confused the dependencies of task-xfce-desktop with
those of xfce4. Hence the incorrect statement that "XFCE doesn't have
a GUI login; you have to install one." As for why the OP ended up in
his present situation - that is as yet unknown.

Re: insserv: FATAL: service mountkernfs is missed

[ajh-valmer]

On Monday 06 January 2020 18:14:55 Daniel wrote:
> Le 06/01/2020 à 18:09, ajh-valmer a écrit :
> > On Monday 06 January 2020 17:53:55 no-s...@tootai.net wrote:
> >> Le 06/01/2020 à 17:47, ajh-valmer a écrit :
> >>> On Monday 06 January 2020 16:38:36 daniel huhardeaux wrote:
>  dh@keewi:~$ dpkg -S mountkernfs
>  systemd: /lib/systemd/system/mountkernfs.service
>  initscripts: /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh
> >>> Si je retire "S01mountkernfs.sh" dans rc2.d à rc5.d,
> >>> insserv couine, indiquant :
> >>> "insserv: FATAL: service mountkernfs is missed in the runlevels 2 3 4 5
> >>> to use service networking.   insserv: exiting now !".
> >> sudo apt remove initscripts puisque tu utilises systemd
> > Je veux bien le faire, mais le mél précédent me dit :

> > dpkg -S mountkernfs
> > systemd: /lib/systemd/system/mountkernfs.service
> > initscripts: /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh

> Et, que veux tu dire ?

> > initscripts: /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh :
Si mountkernfs.sh figure dans : initscripts: /etc/init.d/
peut-on supprimer initscripts ?

Re: buster xfce fails to start

[Greg Wooledge]

On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 05:48:24PM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> P.P.S.  Typing "startx" at the CLI returns an error message, something
> like "xserver not available"...

Why be imprecise like this?  Why not type out the exact error message?

Anyway, it *maybe* sounds like X isn't installed.  I would try
"apt-get install xorg".  If that actually installs a bunch of stuff,
then the guess was correct.

And, if X isn't installed, then it's possible that your chosen desktop
environment isn't installed either.  So you might need to install that
as well.

Re: buster xfce fails to start

[Russell L. Harris]

On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 09:42:46AM -0500, Kenneth Parker wrote:

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020, 4:18 AM ghe  wrote:
   > On Jan 6, 2020, at 01:37 AM, Russell L. Harris 
   wrote:
   > I just installed Buster via netinst on an amd desktop.  I specified
   > xfce.  The system boots but no login screen or GUI appears.  Alt-F4
   > allows me to log in and reboot or shutdown.

   XFCE doesn't have a GUI login; you have to install one. I've used slim for
   years, on many computers.

   Or you can just log in to the CLI and type 'startx.'

That's funny:  I installed Buster on a Laptop just last week via netinst, and
selected xfce (Expert Install menu), and got lightdm.  What's different with
the Original Poster?   For example, did you forget to Select a Username?


My first Debian was Potato; I have installed dozens of systems since,
nowadays almost always by netinst booted from USB flash.  I currently
am running Debian 9, so this is my first venture with Debian 10.  I am
not aware that I did anything unusual with this installation; I always
specify a normal user, and that is how I logged in via the CLI.

P.S. I specified XCFE because I hate the Gnome scheme ("It's there,
but invisible; just search for it with the mouse."); I need to see
menus.

P.P.S.  Typing "startx" at the CLI returns an error message, something
like "xserver not available"...

Re: MUA CLI IMAP and SMTP without ncurses interface

[Dan Purgert]

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> On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 07:54:44 +0100
> john doe  wrote:
>
>> Yes there is, I connect to a VM using SSH and my Windows screenreader
>> does not like curses interface and maybe .other interface(s) as well
>
> Since there are plenty of programs out there that use curses or
> ncurses, perhaps a more elegant solution would be to find an SSH client
> and screenreader that support ncurses. I haven't used Windows
> extensively since 1999, but I hear tell PUTTY does a good job.

I still have to use PuTTY in the dayjob.  It's plenty fine with
(n)curses.  As is cygwin.

That being said, it's possible that by "screenreader", john doe means a
text-to-speech accessibility tool for visually-impaired people.  In that
case, it might be advisable to use mail(1).

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Re: MUA CLI IMAP and SMTP without ncurses interface

[Greg Wooledge]

On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 07:00:38PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Related to above (but I guess only trims content, not headers) is the 
> Debian package t-prot - a tool written for mutt but according to the 
> package description should also be usable with mailx.

That does sound like a good idea for the screen reader user.

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

[Dan Ritter]

deloptes wrote: 
> Jude DaShiell wrote:
> 
> > Can you have pulseaudio on your system to make desktop environments happy
> > and disable pulseaudio and run using alsa and jack? ??I got information
> > uninstalling pulseaudio is not an option with gnome but disabling
> > pulseaudio may work.
> 
> I think all modern applications should use pulse (PA) as interface to the
> audio system. The problems with some applications are due to the fact that
> they are not using PA as an interface - as far as I know. Depends which
> application is started first, it can and will block the audio system.


I have found, in troubleshooting complex systems, that blaming
all the working things for the failure of the non-working thing
doesn't lead to good results.

-dsr-

Re: MUA CLI IMAP and SMTP without ncurses interface

[Jonas Smedegaard]

Quoting Greg Wooledge (2020-01-06 18:50:30)
> On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 09:43:40AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
> > On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 07:54:44 +0100
> > john doe  wrote:
> > 
> > > Yes there is, I connect to a VM using SSH and my Windows 
> > > screenreader does not like curses interface and maybe .other 
> > > interface(s) as well
> > 
> > Since there are plenty of programs out there that use curses or 
> > ncurses, perhaps a more elegant solution would be to find an SSH 
> > client and screenreader that support ncurses. I haven't used Windows 
> > extensively since 1999, but I hear tell PUTTY does a good job.
> 
> It's really not clear what the OP wants to do, but I would imagine the 
> primary issue with screen readers and full-screen terminal programs 
> (whether they use ncurses or slang or their own home-brewed terminal 
> interface code) is that the cursor gets shoved around the screen 
> willy-nilly using terminal escape sequences, and the screen reader 
> doesn't know what's a pronuncible word, or when to say it.
> 
> If the goal is to READ MAIL, then perhaps one of the more primitive 
> interfaces like mailx(1) will suffice.  I might suggest "less $MAIL", 
> but with today's email, there are SO many headers, HUGE headers 
> You might want to write something that strips out the vast majority of 
> the headers, and then pipe that through less (or whatever the screen 
> reader equivalent is).

Related to above (but I guess only trims content, not headers) is the 
Debian package t-prot - a tool written for mutt but according to the 
package description should also be usable with mailx.


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Re: MUA CLI IMAP and SMTP without ncurses interface

[Greg Wooledge]

On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 09:43:40AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 07:54:44 +0100
> john doe  wrote:
> 
> > Yes there is, I connect to a VM using SSH and my Windows screenreader
> > does not like curses interface and maybe .other interface(s) as well
> 
> Since there are plenty of programs out there that use curses or
> ncurses, perhaps a more elegant solution would be to find an SSH client
> and screenreader that support ncurses. I haven't used Windows
> extensively since 1999, but I hear tell PUTTY does a good job.

It's really not clear what the OP wants to do, but I would imagine
the primary issue with screen readers and full-screen terminal programs
(whether they use ncurses or slang or their own home-brewed terminal
interface code) is that the cursor gets shoved around the screen
willy-nilly using terminal escape sequences, and the screen reader
doesn't know what's a pronuncible word, or when to say it.

If the goal is to READ MAIL, then perhaps one of the more primitive
interfaces like mailx(1) will suffice.  I might suggest "less $MAIL",
but with today's email, there are SO many headers, HUGE headers
You might want to write something that strips out the vast majority
of the headers, and then pipe that through less (or whatever the screen
reader equivalent is).

Re: MUA CLI IMAP and SMTP without ncurses interface

[Charles Curley]

On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 07:54:44 +0100
john doe  wrote:

> Yes there is, I connect to a VM using SSH and my Windows screenreader
> does not like curses interface and maybe .other interface(s) as well

Since there are plenty of programs out there that use curses or
ncurses, perhaps a more elegant solution would be to find an SSH client
and screenreader that support ncurses. I haven't used Windows
extensively since 1999, but I hear tell PUTTY does a good job.

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Re: insserv: FATAL: service mountkernfs is missed

[Daniel]

Le 06/01/2020 à 18:09, ajh-valmer a écrit :

On Monday 06 January 2020 17:53:55 no-s...@tootai.net wrote:

Le 06/01/2020 à 17:47, ajh-valmer a écrit :

On Monday 06 January 2020 16:38:36 daniel huhardeaux wrote:

dh@keewi:~$ dpkg -S mountkernfs
systemd: /lib/systemd/system/mountkernfs.service
initscripts: /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh

Si je retire "S01mountkernfs.sh" dans rc2.d à rc5.d,
insserv couine, indiquant :
"insserv: FATAL: service mountkernfs is missed in the runlevels 2 3 4 5
to use service networking.   insserv: exiting now !".

sudo apt remove initscripts puisque tu utilises systemd

Je veux bien le faire, mais le mél précédent me dit :

dpkg -S mountkernfs
systemd: /lib/systemd/system/mountkernfs.service
initscripts: /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh


Et, que veux tu dire ?
--
Daniel

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

[deloptes]

Jude DaShiell wrote:

> Can you have pulseaudio on your system to make desktop environments happy
> and disable pulseaudio and run using alsa and jack?  I got information
> uninstalling pulseaudio is not an option with gnome but disabling
> pulseaudio may work.

I think all modern applications should use pulse (PA) as interface to the
audio system. The problems with some applications are due to the fact that
they are not using PA as an interface - as far as I know. Depends which
application is started first, it can and will block the audio system.

Re: insserv: FATAL: service mountkernfs is missed

[ajh-valmer]

On Monday 06 January 2020 17:53:55 no-s...@tootai.net wrote:
> 
> Le 06/01/2020 à 17:47, ajh-valmer a écrit :
> > On Monday 06 January 2020 16:38:36 daniel huhardeaux wrote:
> >> dh@keewi:~$ dpkg -S mountkernfs
> >> systemd: /lib/systemd/system/mountkernfs.service
> >> initscripts: /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh

> > Si je retire "S01mountkernfs.sh" dans rc2.d à rc5.d,
> > insserv couine, indiquant :
> > "insserv: FATAL: service mountkernfs is missed in the runlevels 2 3 4 5
> > to use service networking.   insserv: exiting now !".

> sudo apt remove initscripts puisque tu utilises systemd

Je veux bien le faire, mais le mél précédent me dit :

dpkg -S mountkernfs
systemd: /lib/systemd/system/mountkernfs.service
initscripts: /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

[Curt]

On 2020-01-06, Jude DaShiell  wrote:
> Can you have pulseaudio on your system to make desktop environments happy
> and disable pulseaudio and run using alsa and jack?  I got information
> uninstalling pulseaudio is not an option with gnome but disabling
> pulseaudio may work.
>

The wiki claims you can "dynamically" disable pulseaudio without
uninstalling it.

https://wiki.debian.org/PulseAudio#Dynamically_enable.2Fdisable

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Re: insserv: FATAL: service mountkernfs is missed

[no-spam]

Le 06/01/2020 à 17:47, ajh-valmer a écrit :

On Monday 06 January 2020 16:38:36 daniel huhardeaux wrote:

Pourquoi diantre veux tu lancer le service mountkernfs puisqu'il est
géré par systemd !
Si tu fais un dpkg -L systemd comme donné lors d'un précédent message tu
verras qu'il n'existe pas de fichier /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh dans le
paquet systemd.
S'il en existe un sur ta machine il s'agit d'un reste de configuration
d'une version précédente ce que je confirme cherchant sur une 9.11
/etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh
/etc/rcS.d/S01mountkernfs.sh
/lib/systemd/system/mountkernfs.service
dh@keewi:~$ dpkg -S mountkernfs
systemd: /lib/systemd/system/mountkernfs.service
initscripts: /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh
C'est donc le paquet initscripts qui fournit mountkernfs.sh Or si tu
utilise systemd plus besoin de ce paquet (qui d'ailleurs n'est pas
installé sur la Buster à partir de laquelle j'exécute les commandes).

"mountkernfs.sh" figure dans /etc/init.d/
"S01mountkernfs.sh" est présent dans /etc/rcS.d/

Si je retire "S01mountkernfs.sh" dans rc2.d à rc5.d,
insserv couine, indiquant :
"insserv: FATAL: service mountkernfs is missed in the runlevels 2 3 4 5
to use service networking.   insserv: exiting now !".


sudo apt remove initscripts puisque tu utilises systemd

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Re: insserv: FATAL: service mountkernfs is missed

[ajh-valmer]

On Monday 06 January 2020 16:38:36 daniel huhardeaux wrote:
> Pourquoi diantre veux tu lancer le service mountkernfs puisqu'il est 
> géré par systemd !
> Si tu fais un dpkg -L systemd comme donné lors d'un précédent message tu 
> verras qu'il n'existe pas de fichier /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh dans le 
> paquet systemd.
> S'il en existe un sur ta machine il s'agit d'un reste de configuration 
> d'une version précédente ce que je confirme cherchant sur une 9.11
> /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh
> /etc/rcS.d/S01mountkernfs.sh
> /lib/systemd/system/mountkernfs.service
> dh@keewi:~$ dpkg -S mountkernfs
> systemd: /lib/systemd/system/mountkernfs.service
> initscripts: /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh
> C'est donc le paquet initscripts qui fournit mountkernfs.sh Or si tu 
> utilise systemd plus besoin de ce paquet (qui d'ailleurs n'est pas 
> installé sur la Buster à partir de laquelle j'exécute les commandes).

"mountkernfs.sh" figure dans /etc/init.d/
"S01mountkernfs.sh" est présent dans /etc/rcS.d/

Si je retire "S01mountkernfs.sh" dans rc2.d à rc5.d,
insserv couine, indiquant :
"insserv: FATAL: service mountkernfs is missed in the runlevels 2 3 4 5 
to use service networking.   insserv: exiting now !".

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

[Jude DaShiell]

Can you have pulseaudio on your system to make desktop environments happy
and disable pulseaudio and run using alsa and jack?  I got information
uninstalling pulseaudio is not an option with gnome but disabling
pulseaudio may work.



--

Re: Debian Graphical Installer: why does it format swap?

[David Wright]

On Sun 05 Jan 2020 at 12:42:05 (-0500), Felix Miata wrote:
> Clod Turner composed on 2020-01-05 15:40 (UTC):
> 
> > no matter what options you try to select in the
> > partitioning dialogue, the installer will always reformat swap and
> > therefore swap gets a new UUID.
> 
> Not true. There's another selectable option I always use: create no swap. /If/
> swap is actually needed, the existing one can be added to fstab after 
> installation
> is complete, easy if by-label or by LABEL instead of by-uuid.
> 
> I have swap partition, but with 16G RAM it was never used, so because not
> /needed/, I keep it turned off.

That might not be an option for some: I'm still installing Debian on a
machine with only 512MB RAM.

But there is a smooth path for coping with the current situation
where you need swap and it's on an MBR disk:

1) use LABEL in /etc/fstab to specify swap partition(s) on
   current systems.

2) allow debian-installer to reformat swap, giving it a
   fresh UUID and a blank LABEL.

3) Any time during the rest of the installation process,
   and at least before it finishes, restore the LABEL
   to the swap partition(s):

   a) open a shell on VC2 or VC3
   b) # /target/sbin/swaplabel -L  /dev/sd

4) Job done.

I don't use hibernation but AIUI the problems in the format of
RESUME=LABEL=… have been fixed (#861057) so the same should apply.

Of course, smoother still would be if the debian-installer would
offer a screen like:

┌┤ [!!] Partition disks ├┐  
   
││  
   
│ You are editing partition #4 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda). This partition│  
   
│ is formatted with the swap area. All data in it WILL BE DESTROYED! │  
   
││  
   
│ Partition settings:│  
   
││  
   
│  Use as: swap area │  
   
││  
   
→→→ │  Label:  noah04│ 
←←← 
│  Bootable flag:  off   │  
   
││  
   
│  Resize the partition (currently 1.0 GB)   │  
   
│  Erase data on this partition  │  
   
│  Delete the partition  │  
   
│  Done setting up the partition │  
   
││  
   
│   │  
   
││  
   
└┘  
   

where you could specify the LABEL.

Cheers,
David.

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

[Jude DaShiell]

On another system I found pulseaudio blocking speech-dispatcher when
festival was used for screen reader output.  Pulseaudio works for sound
but spd-say part of speech-dispatcher which produces speech gets blocked
by pulseaudio.  I proved this by removing pulseaudio and choosing alsa as
the output device in spd-conf and when I did that, speech-dispatcher and
spd-say had no trouble at all working and speaking.  For gnome, pulseaudio
is tied into too many other applications by dependencies so if you get
gnome on a system (maybe you can run it without pulseaudio included), I
haven't tried installing gnome without pulseaudio yet but that'll be
something else I try in a while.



--

Re: Any Bluetooth 5 adapter Debian compatible

[Dan Ritter]

Curt wrote: 
> On 2020-01-05, Jonas Smedegaard  wrote:
> 
> >
> > Most bluetooth adapters work when adding nonfree blobs to the mix.
> >
> 
> Not to belabor a trivial point, but I wondered whether "natively" (about
> whose definition I didn't really reflect when first reading the OP) is
> actually synonymous with free as opposed to nonfree in the Debian sense
> (though upon reading your post it seems likely that must've been what
> the OP meant by the word), or whether it doesn't in fact denote
> something entirely orthogonal to that concept.

I think of "natively" as meaning "supported in the standard
kernel". Some devices will still require a firmware blob, and 
of those, some will require an unfree firmware blob.

anything packaged under firmware-linux-free requires a blob but
the blob is free.

-dsr-

Re: insserv: FATAL: service mountkernfs is missed

[daniel huhardeaux]

Le 06/01/2020 à 16:09, ajh-valmer a écrit :

On Monday 06 January 2020 15:19:41 Daniel Huhardeaux wrote:

Le 06/01/2020 à 15:06, ajh-valmer a écrit :



Comment installer ou réinstaller un paquet inexistant ?
(mountkernfs).



Comme démontré par ma commande dpkg -S, mountkernfs.service (qui est
dans le titre de ton message) est fourni par systemd. Donc,



dpkg -L systemd|grep mountkern
/lib/systemd/system/mountkernfs.service



Soit ton systemd est mal installé soit pas du tout.


mon systemd est bien installé :

# dpkg -L systemd|grep mountkernfs
/lib/systemd/system/mountkernfs.service

# apt-get install systemd --reinstall
Paramétrage de systemd (241-7~deb10u2) ...
(pas de message d'erreur)

# service mountkernfs.sh start
"Failed to start mountkernfs.service: Unit mountkernfs.service is masked".

Pas d'applis "mountkernfs" sous Buster.



Pourquoi diantre veux tu lancer le service mountkernfs puisqu'il est 
géré par systemd !


Si tu fais un dpkg -L systemd comme donné lors d'un précédent message tu 
verras qu'il n'existe pas de fichier /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh dans le 
paquet systemd.


S'il en existe un sur ta machine il s'agit d'un reste de configuration 
d'une version précédente ce que je confirme cherchant sur une 9.11


/etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh
/etc/rcS.d/S01mountkernfs.sh
/lib/systemd/system/mountkernfs.service

dh@keewi:~$ dpkg -S mountkernfs
systemd: /lib/systemd/system/mountkernfs.service
initscripts: /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh

C'est donc le paquet initscripts qui fournit mountkernfs.sh Or si tu 
utilise systemd plus besoin de ce paquet (qui d'ailleurs n'est pas 
installé sur la Buster à partir de laquelle j'exécute les commandes).

--
Daniel

Re: hplip

[BERTRAND Joël]

Juste après avoir posté sur la liste, l'erreur sur la HP6L a disparu.
Mais il me reste toujours le problème de scanner et du plugin impossible
à installer.

hp-setup me renvoie l'erreur suivante :


HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.19.12)
Plugin Installer ver. 3.0

Copyright (c) 2001-18 HP Development Company, LP
This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it
under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details.

Plug-in version: 3.19.12
Installed HPLIP version: 3.19.12
Number of files to install: 64

note: Using PyQt5
QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to
'/tmp/runtime-bertrand'Plugin installation failed
error: Python gobject/dbus may be not installed
  error: Plug-in install failed.

Je n'arrive pas à savoir où trouver ce fichu gobject/dbus !

JKB

Re: MUA CLI IMAP and SMTP without ncurses interface

[Jonas Smedegaard]

Quoting john doe (2020-01-06 15:55:12)
> On 1/6/2020 8:14 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > I appreciate this thread - for me Steve's lumail was new info worth 
> > a closer look!
> >
> > I currently use "afew" - a notmuch frontend ising Urwid to draw.
> >
> > On my laptops I use interimap - a more efficient alternative to 
> > offlineimap (only available in unstable and testing currently).
> >
> > As MTA I use msmtp on laptops, and postfix, dovecot-imap, 
> > dovecot-sieve and spamassassin on reliably connected hosts.
> >
> >
> 
> Quick questions, if I may:
> - Why would one need postfix if you can use msmtp and msmtp-mta (or 
> are they simply alternative)

As others have mentioned as well, msmtp and other lightweight MTAs are 
less reliable than postfix (and, some will argue, exim as well).

Only on systems which I use interactively do I dare use a lightweight 
MTA: At those systems I accept the risk that when firing off the email 
it may fail and I may then *LOOSE* the email (if the MUA used at the 
time did not happen to preserve a copy that I can simply resend).


> - Why would one need dovecot-imap if you can use interimap/oflineimap

interimap syncronizes between imap accounts - it does not store on its 
own.  That's different from offlineimap and similar which syncronizes 
between imap and a local Maildir storage.


 - Jonas

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Re: unable to update

[shirish शिरीष]

at bottom :-

On 06/01/2020, Alexandre GRIVEAUX  wrote:
> shirish शिरीष a écrit :
>> addition at bottom :-
>>
>> On 06/01/2020, shirish शिरीष  wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> This is my /etc/apt/sources.list -
>>>
>>>
>>>   Debian testing ###
>>>deb http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib
>>> non-free
>>> deb-src http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian testing main contrib
>>> non-free
>>>#deb http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian-security
>>> testing/updates
>>> main
>>> #deb-src http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian-security
>>> testing/updates main
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    Debian unstable #
>>>   deb  http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
>>> contrib non-free
>>>   deb-src  http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
>>> contrib non-free
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Debian experimental #
>>>deb http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian experimental main
>>> contrib
>>>deb-src http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian experimental main
>>> contrib
>>>
>>>  # Debian Debug packages ###
>>>deb http://debug.mirrors.debian.org/debian-debug/ testing-debug main
>>>deb http://debug.mirrors.debian.org/debian-debug/ unstable-debug
>>> main
>>>deb http://debug.mirrors.debian.org/debian-debug/ experimental-debug
>>> main
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Third party repos ###
>>>   deb https://riot.im/packages/debian/ buster main
>>>  #deb https://lxqt.debian.net/debian  experimental-snapshots  main
>>>  #deb-src https://lxqt.debian.net/debian  experimental-snapshots  main
>>> 
>>> ## Non-free 
>>> #deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org stretch main non-free
>>> 
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
> According to [0], please remove :
>
> cdn-fastly.
>
> On each lines !
>
> Why do you mix stable, unstable, experimental ?
>
> Which message do you have ?
>
> Thanks.
> Alex.
>
> [0] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianGeoMirror
>
>

Dear Alexander,

First of all thank you for answering.  What is interesting is that
cdn-fastly worked till last couple of days.  The only change I did was
doing usrmerge [1] dunno if that triggered something, although wget,
torrent, youtube-dl all work so it doesn't seem to affect that at all.

As far as your question about mixing from different repos. the only
stable repo I have is of riot and that too because riot doesn't have a
testing repo.  I am 99% on the testing repo, the other two are for me
to get out of some jams or some package I might be interested in from
sid or/and experimental. At times, it lets me know of new versions in
sid/experimental just using apt-cache policy [2] but due to the issue
above can't work.

As far as the message is concerned, it is as I shared before -

$ sudo apt update
Get:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing InRelease [250 B]
Err:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing InRelease
Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NOSPLIT' (does the network require
authentication?)

I think I had explained or shared it in [3] . I get the above error
message over and over again even with the modifications. Let me know
if need any more info.

1. https://wiki.debian.org/UsrMerge
2. https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/apt
3. 
https://askubuntu.com/questions/899009/sudo-apt-update-always-giving-clearsigned-file-isnt-valid-got-nosplit-does

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Re: hplip

[BERTRAND Joël]

BERTRAND Joël a écrit :
> François LE GAD a écrit :
>> Je suppose que le problème est apparu à la suite d'une mise à jour de ta
>> testing, et qu'il y a un problème de correspondance entre les versions
>> de HPLIP et de certaines dépendances.
>>
>> Ça devrait se régler avec une prochaine maj.  Tu refais un hp-doctor au
>> besoin. Tu peux gagner du temps en passant (même provisiorement) en sid.
>>
>> En attendant, ne fais pas de maj sur l'autre bécane, de façon à pouvoir
>> créer des pdf et les y transférer.
> 
>   Je ne suis pas sûr que ça résolve le problème. L'autre machine est en
> testing aussi ;-)
> 
>   JKB
> 

Bon... Et bonne année à tous.

Le problème persiste. C'est même encore pire :

HP6LHP LaserJet 6l, hpcups 3.19.12  En pause - "Backend
/usr/lib/cups/backend/dnssd does not exist!"

Sauf que l'exécutable /usr/lib/cups/backend/dnssd existe et est
exécutable par root (il semble fonctionner en ligne de commande, en tous
les cas, il ne plante pas).

Je suis preneur de toute idée pour réinstaller ce fichu plugin
(problème initial pour le scanner) et pour réussir à imprimer sur une
antiquité connecté à un serveur d'impression qui est parfaitement
fonctionnel par ailleurs. Naturellement, j'ai testé l'imprimante HP6L
depuis un cups fonctionnant sous FreeBSD et elle fonctionne parfaitement.

Bien cordialement,

JKB

Re: insserv: FATAL: service mountkernfs is missed

[ajh-valmer]

On Monday 06 January 2020 15:19:41 Daniel Huhardeaux wrote:
> Le 06/01/2020 à 15:06, ajh-valmer a écrit :

> > Comment installer ou réinstaller un paquet inexistant ?
> > (mountkernfs).

> Comme démontré par ma commande dpkg -S, mountkernfs.service (qui est 
> dans le titre de ton message) est fourni par systemd. Donc,

> dpkg -L systemd|grep mountkern
> /lib/systemd/system/mountkernfs.service

> Soit ton systemd est mal installé soit pas du tout.

mon systemd est bien installé :

# dpkg -L systemd|grep mountkernfs
/lib/systemd/system/mountkernfs.service

# apt-get install systemd --reinstall
Paramétrage de systemd (241-7~deb10u2) ...
(pas de message d'erreur)

# service mountkernfs.sh start
"Failed to start mountkernfs.service: Unit mountkernfs.service is masked".

Pas d'applis "mountkernfs" sous Buster.

Re: MUA CLI IMAP and SMTP without ncurses interface

[john doe]

On 1/6/2020 8:14 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting john doe (2020-01-06 07:54:44)
>> On 1/4/2020 6:12 PM, Steve Kemp wrote:
 As far as I can tell, Mutt uses the ncurses interface
>>>
>>>   Yes.
>>>
 Can I use Mutt without ncurses?
>>>
>>>   No.
>>>
 If no, is my only alternative Sup/Notmuch?
>>>
>>>   https://aerc-mail.org/ is new, and golang-based.  No ncurses.
>>>
>>>   Though it has to be said it seems like an odd-requirement,
>>>  is there a specific reason to avoid ncurses?
>>>
 If I use Sup or Notmuch I also need to configure IMAP and SMTP access,
 is there a MUA which does IMAP SMTP that does not rely on ncurses?
>>>
>>>   On that I have no idea; I wrote a console-based mail-client,
>>>  inspired by mutt but using Lua for UI/scripting, but I just
>>>  exec "/usr/sbin/sendmail .." for outgoing mail, and that's a
>>>  pretty common approach.   
>>>
>>
>> Yes there is, I connect to a VM using SSH and my Windows screenreader
>> does not like curses interface and maybe .other interface(s) as well
>>
>> Regarding Alpine/re-alpine, it is somewhat better accessible then Mutt
>> but far from usable at first glance.
>>
>> Regarding gnus, is only for emax, if I'm not mistaking and I'm a vim
>> user! :)
>>
>> Regarding "mail", I'll look into that, thanks to...@tuxteam.de.
>>
>> My goal in all of this is to move away from Enigmail/Thunderbird for the
>> following reasons:
>> - Thunderbird moving from enigmail to use his own GPG implementation
>> - Using GPG with multiple signing subkies
>>
>>
>> Sendmail/msmtp could do what I want, I'll look into that.
>>
>> Thanks to Jonathan Dowland  for Mutt and 'slang'.
>>
>> Thanks to Reco  for his input.
>>
>>
>> Thanks to anyone else for their input.
>
> I appreciate this thread - for me Steve's lumail was new info worth a
> closer look!
>
> I currently use "afew" - a notmuch frontend ising Urwid to draw.
>
> On my laptops I use interimap - a more efficient alternative to
> offlineimap (only available in unstable and testing currently).
>
> As MTA I use msmtp on laptops, and postfix, dovecot-imap, dovecot-sieve
> and spamassassin on reliably connected hosts.
>
>

Quick questions, if I may:
- Why would one need postfix if you can use msmtp and msmtp-mta (or are
they simply alternative)
- Why would one need dovecot-imap if you can use interimap/oflineimap

--
John Doe

Re: buster xfce fails to start

[Kenneth Parker]

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020, 4:18 AM ghe  wrote:

>
>
> > On Jan 6, 2020, at 01:37 AM, Russell L. Harris 
> wrote:
> >
> > I just installed Buster via netinst on an amd desktop.  I specified
> > xfce.  The system boots but no login screen or GUI appears.  Alt-F4
> > allows me to log in and reboot or shutdown.
>
> XFCE doesn't have a GUI login; you have to install one. I've used slim for
> years, on many computers.
>
> Or you can just log in to the CLI and type 'startx.'


That's funny:  I installed Buster on a Laptop just last week via netinst,
and selected xfce (Expert Install menu), and got lightdm.  What's different
with the Original Poster?   For example, did you forget to Select a
Username?

Kenneth Parker

Re: insserv: FATAL: service mountkernfs is missed

[Daniel Huhardeaux]

Le 06/01/2020 à 15:06, ajh-valmer a écrit :

On Monday 06 January 2020 13:07:30 Daniel Huhardeaux wrote:

Le 06/01/2020 à 12:54, ajh-valmer a écrit :

On Sunday 05 January 2020 23:50:26 Pascal Hambourg wrote:

Le 05/01/2020 à 21:57, ajh-valmer a écrit :

"S01mountkernfs.sh" est dans /etc/rcS.d
mais pas de mountkernfs.sh dans "sysv-rc-conf".
Aucun "S01mountkernfs.sh" dans les rc1.d à rc6.d.



Bizarre. Il faut peut-être réinstaller les liens avec
update-rc.d mountkernfs.sh defaults



# apt-cache search mountkernfs
ne donne aucun résultat...
L'ordinateur est sous Debian Buster.



La bonne commande est  dpkg -S mountkernfs
systemd: /lib/systemd/system/mountkernfs.service


# dpkg -S mountkernfs
ne donne aucun résultat...

Pas de daemon mountkernfs par la commande
# ps aux | grep mountkernfs
et pas existant dans "sysv-rc-conf".

# apt-get install mountkernfs.sh
"E: Impossible de trouver le paquet mountkernfs".

https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=buster-backports=i386=contents=mountkernfs.sh
"Désolé, votre recherche n'a renvoyé aucun résultat".

Comment installer ou réinstaller un paquet inexistant ?
(mountkernfs).



Comme démontré par ma commande dpkg -S, mountkernfs.service (qui est 
dans le titre de ton message) est fourni par systemd. Donc,


dpkg -L systemd|grep mountkern
/lib/systemd/system/mountkernfs.service

Soit ton systemd est mal installé soit pas du tout.

Note: toutes les commandes données sont exécutées à partir d'une Buster
--
Daniel

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

[Greg Wooledge]

On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 01:16:28PM -, Curt wrote:
> >  systemctl stop timidity.service
> >  systemctl disable timidity.service
> >
> > would do the trick.
> 
> BTW, it's a long-standing bug.
> 
> 2014:
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=745373
> 2018:
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=901148

It's also on .

Re: insserv: FATAL: service mountkernfs is missed

[ajh-valmer]

On Monday 06 January 2020 13:07:30 Daniel Huhardeaux wrote:
> Le 06/01/2020 à 12:54, ajh-valmer a écrit :
> > On Sunday 05 January 2020 23:50:26 Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> >> Le 05/01/2020 à 21:57, ajh-valmer a écrit :
> >>> "S01mountkernfs.sh" est dans /etc/rcS.d
> >>> mais pas de mountkernfs.sh dans "sysv-rc-conf".
> >>> Aucun "S01mountkernfs.sh" dans les rc1.d à rc6.d.

> >> Bizarre. Il faut peut-être réinstaller les liens avec
> >> update-rc.d mountkernfs.sh defaults

> > # apt-cache search mountkernfs
> > ne donne aucun résultat...
> > L'ordinateur est sous Debian Buster.

> La bonne commande est  dpkg -S mountkernfs
> systemd: /lib/systemd/system/mountkernfs.service

# dpkg -S mountkernfs
ne donne aucun résultat...

Pas de daemon mountkernfs par la commande
# ps aux | grep mountkernfs
et pas existant dans "sysv-rc-conf".

# apt-get install mountkernfs.sh
"E: Impossible de trouver le paquet mountkernfs".

https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=buster-backports=i386=contents=mountkernfs.sh
"Désolé, votre recherche n'a renvoyé aucun résultat".

Comment installer ou réinstaller un paquet inexistant ?
(mountkernfs).

Re: unable to update

[Alexandre GRIVEAUX]

shirish शिरीष a écrit :
> addition at bottom :-
>
> On 06/01/2020, shirish शिरीष  wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> This is my /etc/apt/sources.list -
>>
>>
>>   Debian testing ###
>> deb http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib
>> non-free
>>  deb-src http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian testing main contrib
>> non-free
>> #deb http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian-security testing/updates
>> main
>>  #deb-src http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian-security
>> testing/updates main
>>  
>>  
>> Debian unstable #
>>deb  http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
>> contrib non-free
>>   deb-src  http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
>> contrib non-free
>>  
>>  
>>  Debian experimental #
>> deb http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib
>>deb-src http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian experimental main
>> contrib
>>
>>  # Debian Debug packages ###
>> deb http://debug.mirrors.debian.org/debian-debug/ testing-debug main
>> deb http://debug.mirrors.debian.org/debian-debug/ unstable-debug main
>> deb http://debug.mirrors.debian.org/debian-debug/ experimental-debug
>> main
>>  
>>  
>>   Third party repos ###
>>deb https://riot.im/packages/debian/ buster main
>>   #deb https://lxqt.debian.net/debian  experimental-snapshots  main
>>   #deb-src https://lxqt.debian.net/debian  experimental-snapshots  main
>>  
>>  ## Non-free 
>>  #deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org stretch main non-free
>>  


Hello,


According to [0], please remove :

cdn-fastly.

On each lines !

Why do you mix stable, unstable, experimental ?

Which message do you have ?

Thanks.
Alex.

[0] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianGeoMirror

Re: [HS?] agrégation de lien

[Alexandre GRIVEAUX]

Le 06/01/2020 à 14:00, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit :
> Le lundi 06 janvier 2020 à 13:26 +0100, Alexandre GRIVEAUX a écrit :
>> Le 06/01/2020 à 02:27, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit :
>>> Bonjour,
>>>
>>> Une question un poil HS mais pas totalement non plus vu que c'est pour
>>> connecter des PC sous Debian à un NAS.
>>> Celui-ci va disposer de 2 ports réseaux pouvant fonctionner en agrégation.
>>> Si je mets 2 cartes réseaux sur les PCs est-ce que je pourrais aussi les
>>> faire
>>> fonctionner en agrégation et au final est-ce que j'obtiendrai des débits
>>> plus
>>> importants entre le NAS et un PC ?
>>> Mes recherches sur internet ne m'ont pas donné de réponses claires sur le
>>> sujet.
>>>
>>> Gaëtan
>> Bonjour,
>>
>>
>> Oui c'est possible mais il faudrait un switch entre toutes les machines
>> et qui le permet (802.3ad/802.1ax)
>>
>>
>> Alex.
>
> Oui bien sur pour le switch. Je pensais au Netgear GS108Tv3 ?
>
> A+
>
> Gaëtan

A priori oui.


Alex

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

[Curt]

On 2020-01-06, Curt  wrote:
> On 2020-01-06, Selim T  Erdoğan  wrote:
>>
>> Try "systemctl stop timidity.service"
>>
>> After upgrading to buster my sound stopped working as usual and then 
>> based on stuff I read on this list, I tried the above command, which 
>> solves it, until a reboot.  (I didn't investigate further.)
>>
>
> I suppose when you reboot, as you haven't disabled the daemon (it's
> a daemon?) it gets started once again.
>
> Maybe 
>
>  systemctl stop timidity.service
>  systemctl disable timidity.service
>
> would do the trick.
>
>

BTW, it's a long-standing bug.

2014:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=745373
2018:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=901148
2008 (Ubuntu)
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/timidity/+bug/210472

-- 
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moi." Antonin Artaud

Re: [HS?] agrégation de lien

[Alexandre GRIVEAUX]

Le 06/01/2020 à 02:27, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit :
> Bonjour,
>
> Une question un poil HS mais pas totalement non plus vu que c'est pour
> connecter des PC sous Debian à un NAS.
> Celui-ci va disposer de 2 ports réseaux pouvant fonctionner en agrégation.
> Si je mets 2 cartes réseaux sur les PCs est-ce que je pourrais aussi les faire
> fonctionner en agrégation et au final est-ce que j'obtiendrai des débits plus
> importants entre le NAS et un PC ?
> Mes recherches sur internet ne m'ont pas donné de réponses claires sur le
> sujet.
>
> Gaëtan

Bonjour,


Oui c'est possible mais il faudrait un switch entre toutes les machines
et qui le permet (802.3ad/802.1ax)


Alex.

Re: [HS?] agrégation de lien

[Gaëtan Perrier]

Le lundi 06 janvier 2020 à 13:26 +0100, Alexandre GRIVEAUX a écrit :
> Le 06/01/2020 à 02:27, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit :
> > Bonjour,
> > 
> > Une question un poil HS mais pas totalement non plus vu que c'est pour
> > connecter des PC sous Debian à un NAS.
> > Celui-ci va disposer de 2 ports réseaux pouvant fonctionner en agrégation.
> > Si je mets 2 cartes réseaux sur les PCs est-ce que je pourrais aussi les
> > faire
> > fonctionner en agrégation et au final est-ce que j'obtiendrai des débits
> > plus
> > importants entre le NAS et un PC ?
> > Mes recherches sur internet ne m'ont pas donné de réponses claires sur le
> > sujet.
> > 
> > Gaëtan
> 
> Bonjour,
> 
> 
> Oui c'est possible mais il faudrait un switch entre toutes les machines
> et qui le permet (802.3ad/802.1ax)
> 
> 
> Alex.


Oui bien sur pour le switch. Je pensais au Netgear GS108Tv3 ?

A+

Gaëtan


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Re: unable to update

[shirish शिरीष]

addition at bottom :-

On 06/01/2020, shirish शिरीष  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> This is my /etc/apt/sources.list -
>
>
>   Debian testing ###
>  deb http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib
> non-free
>   deb-src http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian testing main contrib
> non-free
>  #deb http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian-security testing/updates
> main
>   #deb-src http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian-security
> testing/updates main
>   
>   
>  Debian unstable #
> deb  http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
> contrib non-free
>   deb-src  http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
> contrib non-free
>   
>   
>   Debian experimental #
>  deb http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib
>deb-src http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian experimental main
> contrib
>
>  # Debian Debug packages ###
>  deb http://debug.mirrors.debian.org/debian-debug/ testing-debug main
>  deb http://debug.mirrors.debian.org/debian-debug/ unstable-debug main
>  deb http://debug.mirrors.debian.org/debian-debug/ experimental-debug
> main
>   
>   
>    Third party repos ###
> deb https://riot.im/packages/debian/ buster main
>#deb https://lxqt.debian.net/debian  experimental-snapshots  main
>#deb-src https://lxqt.debian.net/debian  experimental-snapshots  main
>   
>   ## Non-free 
>   #deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org stretch main non-free
>   
>   
> Haven't been able to update the repos. today.
>
> I am able to traceroute/tracepath to 217.196.149.232 but not
> 151.101.8.204 . Can somebody help ?
>
> FWIW, I am able to torrent, mail and everything else without an issue.
>
> --
>   Regards,
>   Shirish Agarwal  शिरीष अग्रवाल
>   My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0
> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/
> http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com
>
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>

Please CC me if anybody has any answers.

For reasons beyond my comprehension, whenever I try traceroute, it
uses the singapore route and doesn't use any other route :(

FWIW, I am getting the same error code as somebody shared on askubuntu
[1] although this is debian. Previously it usually got fixed by itself
in few hours but seems something is broken probably at Singapore end.
I have seen this more than couple of times.

Here's the output I am sharing via traceroute -

traceroute to 151.101.8.204 (151.101.8.204), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets

 3  218.248.164.82 (218.248.164.82)  23.243 ms  24.867 ms  27.077 ms
 4  218.248.235.197 (218.248.235.197)  33.597 ms  35.702 ms *
 5  218.248.235.198 (218.248.235.198)  42.236 ms  66.139 ms *
 6  115.113.165.93.static-mumbai.vsnl.net.in (115.113.165.93)  48.830
ms 115.114.89.149.static-Mumbai.vsnl.net.in (115.114.89.149)  12.357
ms  10.345 ms
 7  172.23.78.233 (172.23.78.233)  13.858 ms  15.971 ms  19.457 ms
 8  172.31.244.45 (172.31.244.45)  38.207 ms  40.569 ms  43.184 ms
 9  ix-ae-4-2.tcore2.cxr-chennai.as6453.net (180.87.37.1)  45.813 ms
66.518 ms  50.928 ms
10  if-ae-10-2.tcore2.svw-singapore.as6453.net (180.87.37.65)  95.576
ms if-ae-3-3.tcore1.cxr-chennai.as6453.net (180.87.36.5)  94.641 ms
97.952 ms
11  if-ae-34-2.tcore1.svq-singapore.as6453.net (180.87.36.41)  69.122
ms  71.938 ms  74.665 ms
12  if-ae-11-2.thar1.svq-singapore.as6453.net (180.87.98.37)  69.094
ms if-ae-7-2.thar1.svq-singapore.as6453.net (180.87.98.9)  71.561 ms
74.149 ms
13  ae-9.a01.sngpsi07.sg.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.8.241)  76.513 ms
77.152 ms  78.242 ms
14  ae-5.r00.sngpsi07.sg.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.123)  89.208 ms
ae-5.r01.sngpsi07.sg.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.241)  88.765 ms ae
(129.250.2.123)  89.878 ms
15  * * *
16  * * *
17  * * *
18  * * *
19  * * *
20  * * *
21  * * *
22  * * *
23  * * *
24  * * *
25  * * *
26  * * *
27  * * *
28  * * *
29  * * *
30  * * *

The only thing that is missing or have not shared are the first couple
of hops. First from my gateway to the local exchange and the second
from the local exchange IP to my ISP's infrastructure [2]


1. 
https://askubuntu.com/questions/899009/sudo-apt-update-always-giving-clearsigned-file-isnt-valid-got-nosplit-does

2. see whois 218.248.164.82 i.e. BSNL's infrastructure.

-- 
  Regards,
  Shirish Agarwal  शिरीष अग्रवाल
  My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/
http://flossexperiences.wordpress.com

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Re: insserv: FATAL: service mountkernfs is missed

[Daniel Huhardeaux]

Le 06/01/2020 à 12:54, ajh-valmer a écrit :

On Sunday 05 January 2020 23:50:26 Pascal Hambourg wrote:

Le 05/01/2020 à 21:57, ajh-valmer a écrit :

"S01mountkernfs.sh" est dans /etc/rcS.d
mais pas de mountkernfs.sh dans "sysv-rc-conf".
Aucun "S01mountkernfs.sh" dans les rc1.d à rc6.d.


Bizarre. Il faut peut-être réinstaller les liens avec
update-rc.d mountkernfs.sh defaults


# apt-cache search mountkernfs
ne donne aucun résultat...
L'ordinateur est sous Debian Buster.


La bonne commande est  dpkg -S mountkernfs
systemd: /lib/systemd/system/mountkernfs.service

--
Daniel

Re: insserv: FATAL: service mountkernfs is missed

[ajh-valmer]

On Sunday 05 January 2020 23:50:26 Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Le 05/01/2020 à 21:57, ajh-valmer a écrit :
> > "S01mountkernfs.sh" est dans /etc/rcS.d
> > mais pas de mountkernfs.sh dans "sysv-rc-conf".
> > Aucun "S01mountkernfs.sh" dans les rc1.d à rc6.d.
> 
> Bizarre. Il faut peut-être réinstaller les liens avec
> update-rc.d mountkernfs.sh defaults

# apt-cache search mountkernfs
ne donne aucun résultat...
L'ordinateur est sous Debian Buster.

unable to update

[shirish शिरीष]

Dear all,

This is my /etc/apt/sources.list -


  Debian testing ###
   deb http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib 
non-free
deb-src http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian testing main contrib 
non-free
   #deb http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian-security 
testing/updates main
#deb-src http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian-security
testing/updates main


   Debian unstable #
  deb  http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
contrib non-free
  deb-src  http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
contrib non-free


    Debian experimental #
   deb http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib
   deb-src http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib

 # Debian Debug packages ###
   deb http://debug.mirrors.debian.org/debian-debug/ testing-debug main
   deb http://debug.mirrors.debian.org/debian-debug/ unstable-debug main
   deb http://debug.mirrors.debian.org/debian-debug/ experimental-debug 
main


 Third party repos ###
  deb https://riot.im/packages/debian/ buster main
 #deb https://lxqt.debian.net/debian  experimental-snapshots  main
 #deb-src https://lxqt.debian.net/debian  experimental-snapshots  main

## Non-free 
#deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org stretch main non-free


Haven't been able to update the repos. today.

I am able to traceroute/tracepath to 217.196.149.232 but not
151.101.8.204 . Can somebody help ?

FWIW, I am able to torrent, mail and everything else without an issue.

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Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

[Curt]

On 2020-01-06, Selim T  Erdoğan  wrote:
>
> Try "systemctl stop timidity.service"
>
> After upgrading to buster my sound stopped working as usual and then 
> based on stuff I read on this list, I tried the above command, which 
> solves it, until a reboot.  (I didn't investigate further.)
>

I suppose when you reboot, as you haven't disabled the daemon (it's
a daemon?) it gets started once again.

Maybe 

 systemctl stop timidity.service
 systemctl disable timidity.service

would do the trick.



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moi." Antonin Artaud

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

[Selim T . Erdoğan]

On Sun, Jan 05, 2020 at 09:18:53PM +0100, Yoann LE BARS wrote:
> 
> > As someone else mentioned, possibly some other process is keeping the 
> > audio device busy. 'lsof | grep /dev/snd/' (as root) should help.
> 
>   Yes, why have I not done this before?
> 
> # lsof | grep /dev/snd/
> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system /run/user/1000/gvfs
>   Output information may be incomplete.
> alsactl573   root4r  CHR
> 116,7   0t0  16293 /dev/snd/controlC0
> timidity   861   timidity  mem   CHR
> 116,216230 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
> timidity   861   timidity3r  CHR
> 116,33   0t0  12983 /dev/snd/timer
> timidity   861   timidity4u  CHR
> 116,2   0t0  16230 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
> timidity   861   timidity5u  CHR
> 116,7   0t0  16293 /dev/snd/controlC0
> timidity   861   timidity6u  CHR
> 116,1   0t0  12984 /dev/snd/seq
> 
>   Now, this is interesting, as some reported troubles between Timidity
> and Pulseaudio (e.g. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=154002).
> I have no problem with Timidity and Pulseaudio on other Debian 10
> systems, as well on Fedora or Ubuntu. Anyway, I should investigate this.

Try "systemctl stop timidity.service"

After upgrading to buster my sound stopped working as usual and then 
based on stuff I read on this list, I tried the above command, which 
solves it, until a reboot.  (I didn't investigate further.)

Re: buster xfce fails to start

[ghe]

> On Jan 6, 2020, at 01:37 AM, Russell L. Harris  wrote:
> 
> I just installed Buster via netinst on an amd desktop.  I specified
> xfce.  The system boots but no login screen or GUI appears.  Alt-F4
> allows me to log in and reboot or shutdown.

XFCE doesn't have a GUI login; you have to install one. I've used slim for 
years, on many computers.

Or you can just log in to the CLI and type 'startx.'

-- 
Glenn English

Re: apple mini

[ghe]

> On Jan 5, 2020, at 02:54 PM, mick crane  wrote:
> 
> yes I know this is Debian user list
> yes I know that apple is unix.
> I got an apple mini to give to somebody
> to clean it up is that
> "userdel"
> "makeusr" or something like that ?
> mick
> -- 
> Key ID4BFEBB31

Plain old dd'l fill a disk with zeros or random bytes if you ask nicely. OS X 
probably has it; if not, a live Linux CD will.

Or if you want a multi-pass DoD wipe, try DBAN:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/dban/

It's free and works just fine (I haven't run it on a Mac anything, though), 
despite the sales pitch on the website and the adware in the software. You 
download it, burn it to CD, boot the CD, and answer some questions. It wipes 
all the hard disks it can find.

There are several free Mac disk wipers, too.

-- 
Glenn English

buster xfce fails to start

[Russell L. Harris]

I just installed Buster via netinst on an amd desktop.  I specified
xfce.  The system boots but no login screen or GUI appears.  Alt-F4
allows me to log in and reboot or shutdown.

OT: Apple Flame War Ahead (Was Re: apple mini)

[Curt]

On 2020-01-05, mick crane  wrote:
> yes I know this is Debian user list
> yes I know that apple is unix.
> I got an apple mini to give to somebody
> to clean it up is that
> "userdel"
> "makeusr" or something like that ?
> mick

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208496

Of course, if your brother-in-law is secretly working for the DGSE (and
your threat model's an eventual forensic analysis of the drive by
determined professionals with all the time in the universe available to
them---12 billion years more or less and counting?---maybe you should
complicate matters by taking David C.'s advice).

Or perhaps you should simplify *everything* by tending an ear to the horse's
mouth and remaining on-topic, friend.

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moi." Antonin Artaud