Fwd: Re: AMD 10.2 netinstall

[Rick Thomas]

The "unofficial" firmware installer iso has a bunch of non-free/proprietary 
drivers/firmware for various adapters and devices that do not have open-source 
drivers, but that your machine may need to run correctly.

For example, a laptop may have a wi-fi built-in from a manufacturer who is 
unwilling to release the source code for the wi-fi device's firmware.  The 
"unofficial" installer CD has the necessary firmware in the form of a "binary 
blob" that can be installed to make the laptop's wi-fi work with Linux.

Hope That Helps!
Rick

- Original message -
From: Thomas Hilbert 
To: Rick Thomas 
Subject: Re: AMD 10.2 netinstall
Date: Sunday, January 19, 2020 5:50 PM

Good to know about the expert option.  So what does the Non-Free, 
firmware installer get you over the standard all open source installer?

On 1/19/20 2:35 AM, Rick Thomas wrote:
>> Since you have to install the firmware-linux-nonfree that means that
>> it s not installed! From what I remember
>> you need to select those packages at the end of the base image
>> installation.
> And you must do an "expert" install, in order to see that option.  If you do 
> a "Standard" install, you won't get a chance.
>
> There's probably something you can put in the boot args that will force it to 
> install the firmware-linux-nonfree package, but I don't know what that is.
>
> Rick
>

Jittery desktop mode.

[Peter Easthope]

In Debian 10, since an update a few weeks back, the display has
included a weird spontaneous jittery mode.  The browser can work
for several minutes with no problem.  Then with no warning
components in the desktop begin flashing. A desktop chooser or
indicator in the center of the screen rapidly cycles 0, 1, 2, 3, 0, ...

It seems to be triggered by a mouse click; haven't found anything
more specific.  If keyboard and mouse input are suspended for
several seconds the activity dies down.  When the episode is
finished, seemingly normal usage can continue.

A few seconds of the behavior is visible here.
http://easthope.ca/Debian10.2.2020.01.19.mp4

Wayland/westan is also installed.  In weston the mouse pointer
can jump erratically but other graphical components are stable.

At present I wouldn't know what to file a bug report against.

Ideas?

Thanks,... P.

-- 
Tel.: +1 604 670 0140  Bcc: peter at easthope. ca

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

[deloptes]

Yoann LE BARS wrote:

> As a root:
> 
> # fuser -v /dev/snd/*
> UTIL.       PID ACCÈS  COMMANDE
> /dev/snd/controlC0:  root        591 f alsactl
> timidity    856 F timidity
> /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p:   timidity    856 F...m timidity
> /dev/snd/seq:        timidity    856 F timidity
> /dev/snd/timer:      timidity    856 f timidity
> 
> Well, back to what has been seen before.

you were instructed to disable timidity, no?

Re: DVD "backup" trouble

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Reco wrote:
> sr011:01   3.9G  0 rom
> pktcdvd0  252:01   1.2G  0 disk

The pktcdvd driver is of help only with operating a rw-filesystem on
formatted CD-RW (miserably slow) or formatted DVD-RW (annoyingly slow).


> Media summary: 1 session, 2042848 data blocks, 3990m data, 0 free
> sr011:01 2G  0 rom
> I feel cheated :(

I am wondering how this misperception can happen.

Probably the info comes from function blkdev_get_size() in
  https://sources.debian.org/src/util-linux/2.34-0.1/lib/blkdev.c/?hl=102#L83
which looks like
  ioctl(fd, BLKGETSIZE64, bytes)
is the call which does the trick.

(Cute:
   
https://sources.debian.org/src/util-linux/2.34-0.1/libblkid/src/probe.c/?hl=815#L815
 provides a preventive workaround for the TAO CD Read-Ahead bug. Such a
 thing should sit in the kernel.
)


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: Poll about DVD drive behavior

[Dominique Dumont]

On Wednesday, 15 January 2020 23:03:23 CET Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> > - HL-DT-ST_BD-RE_BH08LS20
> 
> The googled pictures resemble my GGW-H20L from 2008. Does it write BD-RE
> with 2.3x speed ?
> (At some time the LGs lost that extra speed of 10 MB/s versus 9 MB/s of the
> competitors.)

dvd+rw-mediainfo reports:
GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION:
 Mounted Media: 41h, BD-R SRM
 Current Write Speed:   8.0x4495=35964KB/s
 Write Speed #0:8.0x4495=35964KB/s
 Write Speed #1:6.0x4495=26973KB/s
 Write Speed #2:4.0x4495=17982KB/s
 Write Speed #3:2.0x4495=8991KB/s

Now, only the slowest write speed is somewhat reliable. That's why I bought 
the Asus

> > - ATAPI_iHOS104_3775504068_206021500
> 
> A BD-ROM drive. That's rare.

This is mounted in a HTPC, I don't need a writer in there. Back in 2011, this 
was less expensive than a BD writer.

All the best

Dod

Re: DVD "backup" trouble

[Reco]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 08:30:53PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> And the actual culprit was udftools package that was installed for
> years (lsblk output):
> 
> sr011:01   3.9G  0 rom
> pktcdvd0  252:01   1.2G  0 disk
> 
> Somehow /dev/pktcdvd0 managed to truncate the reads from /dev/sr0.
> Blacklisting the offending udev rule ("touch
> /etc/udev/rules.d/80-pktsetup.rules") fixed it.

But, BTW, lsblk lies about DVD size.
xorriso says:

Media summary: 1 session, 2042848 data blocks, 3990m data, 0 free

lsblk says:

sr011:01 2G  0 rom

I feel cheated :(

Reco

Re: Print several (small) pages on A4/Letter sheet

[Brian]

On Sun 19 Jan 2020 at 08:29:46 -0700, Charles Curley wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 15:42:08 +0100
> Rainer Dorsch  wrote:
> 
> > I have a pdf file with a page size of 186x65 mm2. If I print that on
> > A4, I get printouts which are mainly white, except the 186x65 mm2.
> > 
> > Is there a good way to get it printed in a compact way (e.g. 4 pages
> > on top of each other on an A4 sheet)? I could not find an option in
> > pdftk, so any advice or hint is welcome...
> 
> That is called printing N-up, in your case 4-up. Assuming you have CUPS
> installed, look at the number_up option,
> http://localhost:631/help/options.html#NUMBERUP

A decent idea, but Rainer Dorsch is happy with --nup '1x4'. CUPS will
not produce such a layout.

-- 
Brian.

Re: DVD "backup" trouble

[Reco]

Hi.

On Sun, Jan 19, 2020 at 06:03:55PM +0100, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
> Reco wrote:
> > xorriso somehow read the DVD contents in full.
> > The question is - what did xorriso done differently?
> 
> It does it by talking nearly directly to the drive. Linux contributes
> its ability to transport SCSI commands and bring back drive replies.
> All other CD-ROM related brain of Linux gets circumvented.

Thanks.

> Another way to inquire the Linux kernel's idea of DVD size is
> 
>   $ lsblk -b -o SIZE -n /dev/sr0
>   4700372992

And the actual culprit was udftools package that was installed for
years (lsblk output):

sr011:01   3.9G  0 rom
pktcdvd0  252:01   1.2G  0 disk

Somehow /dev/pktcdvd0 managed to truncate the reads from /dev/sr0.
Blacklisting the offending udev rule ("touch
/etc/udev/rules.d/80-pktsetup.rules") fixed it.

Thank you for the idea.

Reco

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

[Yoann LE BARS]

Hello everybody out there!

On 2020/01/19 6:19 pm, Yoann LE BARS wrote:
>   On the laptop:
> 
> $ fuser -v /dev/snd/*

As a root:

# fuser -v /dev/snd/*
 UTIL.   PID ACCÈS  COMMANDE
/dev/snd/controlC0:  root591 f alsactl
 timidity856 F timidity
/dev/snd/pcmC0D0p:   timidity856 F...m timidity
/dev/snd/seq:timidity856 F timidity
/dev/snd/timer:  timidity856 f timidity

Well, back to what has been seen before.

Best regards.

-- 
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http://le-bars.net/yoann/
Diaspora* : yleb...@framasphere.org

Re: No sound with Pulseaudio

[Yoann LE BARS]

Hello everybody out there!

Sorry, once again I have been busy on so many other things.

On 2020/01/09 10:12 pm, Georgi Naplatanov wrote:
> something is wrong on that computer.

Indeed.

> This is output of mine:
> 
> 
> $ fuser -v /dev/snd/*
>  USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
> /dev/snd/controlC0:  gosho  2067 F pulseaudio
> /dev/snd/controlC1:  gosho  2067 F pulseaudio
> /dev/snd/controlC2:  gosho  2067 F pulseaudio
> /dev/snd/pcmC1D0p:   gosho  2067 F...m pulseaudio

On the laptop:

$ fuser -v /dev/snd/*

I have not forgotten anything when copy-pasting, there is simply no 
output.

> Try this:
>  - run as root
>   # alsactl init
>  - restart the computer
>  - then start alsamixer as ordinary user and tune all channels

It did not change anything: there is still nothing but a virtual output
in PAVUControl.

Really, the problem seems to be lying on Pulsaudio configuration, not
in Alsa. Still, I do not know what to do to make a clean configuration
for Pulseaudio.

Best regards.

-- 
Yoann LE BARS
http://le-bars.net/yoann/
Diaspora* : yleb...@framasphere.org

Re: Re : Re: Re : Re: Choix du système Debian

[maxime]

Il faut mettre la question de l'utilisateur dans son contexte, une 
question globalement basique a besoin d'un début de réponse simple.


Dans l'ordre des choses, si l'utilisateur avait un besoin en bureautique 
beaucoup plus précis, nécessitant la connaissance d'un langage de 
programmation, l'exploitation d'outils intermédiaires pour arriver à un 
résultat par automatisation, il l'aurait mentionné en toute connaissance 
des éléments de base.

Et nous l'aurions redirigé vers debian-devel-french.

M. Starynkevitch possède un solide bagage technique indéniable, mais qui 
peut le plus peut le moins surtout sur une liste d'entraide pour 
utilisateurs grand public.


Maxime.


Le 2020-01-19 04:19, k6dedi...@free.fr a écrit :

Bonjour Basile,
Je ne visais personne en particulier.
Mais parfois certains entrent dans des considérations trop techniques
sans savoir si celui qui pose la question est apte à les recevoir.

Mais tu as tout à fait raison lorsque tu dis que l'utilisateur lambda
ne fait pas ou trop peu de recherches sur le web pour trouver des
réponses à son problème.
Quel utilisateur lambda cherche quel est le GUL (groupe d'utilisateur
Linux) le plus proche ?

Bon courage à toi qui participe beaucoup à cette liste.
Cassis



- Mail d'origine -
De: bas...@starynkevitch.net
À: Klaus Becker 
Cc: k6dedi...@free.fr, ML Debian User French

Envoyé: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 12:54:39 +0100 (CET)
Objet: Re: Re : Re: Choix du  système Debian


On Friday, January 17, 2020 11:20 CET, Klaus Becker  
wrote:

 

Le 17/01/2020 à 03:54, k6dedi...@free.fr a écrit :

Bonjour à tous,
OUI, certains sont dans leur sphère informaticienne et ne se mettent 
pas facilement à la portée d'un utilisateur lambda.

 
Je me sens visé, mais je peux retourner le compliment.

Certains utilisateurs lamda ne prennent même pas le temps de
s'informer par eux mêmes, et pourtant les resources informationnelles
disponibles sur le Web sont immenses, et notammanet sur la question
dont on débat ici même.

(et pour info, j'avais un AsusEEE sur lequel j'avais installé une 
Debian)


Cordialement

--
Basile Starynkevitch, informaticien libriste et fier de l'être
http://starynkevitch.net/Basile/
 

Re: DVD "backup" trouble

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Reco wrote:
> xorriso somehow read the DVD contents in full.
> The question is - what did xorriso done differently?

It does it by talking nearly directly to the drive. Linux contributes
its ability to transport SCSI commands and bring back drive replies.
All other CD-ROM related brain of Linux gets circumvented.


> Is it a kernel bug, as it seems that the kernel determined DVD block
> device size incorrectly?

You may inquire what xorriso learns from the drive via above direct SCSI
execution and what it learns from the Linux block device driver, which
programs like dd are using:

  xorriso -outdev /dev/sr0 -toc 2>&1 | grep '^Media blocks'

  xorriso -outdev stdio:/dev/sr0 -toc 2>&1 | grep '^Media blocks'

Normally both sets of values should be the same. Like on DVD+RW:

  Media blocks : 2267648 readable , 27456 writable , 2295104 overall

Where "readable" means "with ISO 9660 filesystem data". "writable" means
"free space for another ISO session".

Another way to inquire the Linux kernel's idea of DVD size is

  $ lsblk -b -o SIZE -n /dev/sr0
  4700372992
  $ expr 4700372992 / 2048
  2295104


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

DVD "backup" trouble

[Reco]

Dear list,

Today I was given a box of DVDs with the movies, conventional DVD video
(mpeg2/ac3) mostly.
Back in the old days one could make an ISO9660/UDF image of a DVD with a
simple "cat /dev/sr0 > file".
To my biggest surprise, I does not work for me anymore. But I tried this
approach last time back then stretch was stable.

Specifically, "cat", "ddrescue", and "safecopy" happly read about 1.2G
of any DVD I fed'em with (about several tens), *without* any errors,
*without* anything unusual in dmesg.
The only problem was - your typical DVD Video holds 4.7G data, so such
"backups" (so to say) were truncated.

I seem to be able to overcome the issue with (the thing rocks!):

xorriso abort_on NEVER -indev /dev/sr0 -check_media \
time_limit=1800 report=blocks_files data_to=my.iso

because xorriso somehow read the DVD contents in full.


The question is - what did xorriso done differently? Is it a kernel bug,
as it seems that the kernel determined DVD block device size
incorrectly?

Reco

/usr/bin/software-properties-kde IGNORE SOLVED

[zahid]

The password  for  /usr/bin/software-properties-kde
isn't being accepted  when I run in KDE
I have added the current user  to root  and created  a group called 
wheel, added current the user to it.

and
I am getting the following error message from command line
when I run as su
/usr/bin/software-properties-kde
qt.qpa.screen: QXcbConnection: Could not connect to display
Could not connect to any X display.

Re: Print several (small) pages on A4/Letter sheet

[Charles Curley]

On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 15:42:08 +0100
Rainer Dorsch  wrote:

> I have a pdf file with a page size of 186x65 mm2. If I print that on
> A4, I get printouts which are mainly white, except the 186x65 mm2.
> 
> Is there a good way to get it printed in a compact way (e.g. 4 pages
> on top of each other on an A4 sheet)? I could not find an option in
> pdftk, so any advice or hint is welcome...

That is called printing N-up, in your case 4-up. Assuming you have CUPS
installed, look at the number_up option,
http://localhost:631/help/options.html#NUMBERUP

-- 
Does anybody read signatures any more?

https://charlescurley.com
https://charlescurley.com/blog/

favorites disappear from application menu

[Glenn Holmer]

I continue to have this problem, and have submitted a bug report. If anyone
else is experiencing this, please add any information that may be helpful.

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=949298

-- 
Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
"After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."

/usr/bin/software-properties-kde

[Zahid Rahman]

The password  for  /usr/bin/software-properties-kde
isn't being accepted  when I run in KDE
I have added the current user  to root  and created  a group called wheel,
added current the user to it.
and
I am getting the following error message from command line
when I run as su
/usr/bin/software-properties-kde
qt.qpa.screen: QXcbConnection: Could not connect to display
Could not connect to any X display.

Re: Print several (small) pages on A4/Letter sheet

[Brian]

On Sat 18 Jan 2020 at 20:50:05 +, Curt wrote:

> On 2020-01-18, Brian  wrote:
> > On Sat 18 Jan 2020 at 15:42:08 +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> >
> >> I have a pdf file with a page size of 186x65 mm2. If I print that on A4, I 
> >> get 
> >> printouts which are mainly white, except the 186x65 mm2.
> >> 
> >> Is there a good way to get it printed in a compact way (e.g. 4 pages on 
> >> top of 
> >> each other on an A4 sheet)? I could not find an option in pdftk, so any 
> >> advice 
> >> or hint is welcome...
> >
> > Using something that is probably on your system and doesn't pull in
> > all the enormous texlive baggage:
> >
> >   pdfunite your.pdf your.pdf your.pdf your.pdf out.pdf
> 
> This would put all yours on the same page (we are on the same page
> here)?

Unfortunately not. My testing was inadequate.

-- 
Brian.

Re: No official way to make Debian Live USB "persistent"?

[didier . gaumet]

Le samedi 18 janvier 2020 15:00:04 UTC+1, kaye n a écrit :
> Hello Friends!
> 
> Correct me if I'm wrong but there doesn't seem to be an 'official' way of 
> creating a Live USB Debian that is 'persistent'.
[...]

https://live-team.pages.debian.net/live-manual/html/live-manual/customizing-run-time-behaviours.en.html#548

Re: couleurs de l'installeur

[Basile Starynkevitch]

On 1/19/20 8:08 AM, Bernard Schoenacker wrote:

bonjour,

je me rends compte que certaines couleurs ne sont plus
adaptées actuellement aux écrans tft et je souhaiterai
voir si une personne charitable pourrais suggérer de
changer la couleur de fond (bleu) de l'installeur vers
une couleur plus douce et moins agressive pour les
yeux ?



La commande pour suggérer ça est reportbug du paquet Debian reportbug


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