Re: noapi acpi=off
On 21.01.2020 10:21, Zahid Rahman wrote: > So if you have the latest version of debian and it is logging on and > off ok , what are the acpi setting, kernel parameters. > > You can find this out by pressing 'e' when the grub screen is showing. > > I should have taken note when I had debian installed. > > I recommend to use default settings. By disabling ACPI you'll only cripple many internal hardware functions of your laptop. If there is some problem with default settings (only "quiet" as kernel parameter in grub), then disabling ACPI is not the solution. You need to look further, check logs to find out what exactly causing you trouble. We can advise more, if you can send useful snippets of logs or other information about your laptop here. Also describe in detail what problem do you trying to solve by disabling ACPI and changing kernel boot parameters? Debian has almost every driver and firmware currently supported by kernel, just like any other distro. What model and make of network adapter you trying to use? You can find out this information using "lspci -v". It is possible you simply have to install some additional package from Debian repos with non-free firmware for your network adapter. -- With kindest regards, Alexander. ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org ⠈⠳⣄
Re: Use system drive, in another system
On Lu, 20 ian 20, 16:29:27, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 22:19:37 +0200 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > One thing that you need to prepare for is the change of network > > interface name. Regardless of the naming scheme in use it will very > > likely change. > > Didn't in my case. Ethernet and USB wireless dongle kept the same > names in the new box as the old one. USB dongles being one of the exceptions (the name is assigned based on MAC in both naming schemes), which is why I wrote "very likely" and not "will" ;) Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: noapi acpi=off
So if you have the latest version of debian and it is logging on and off ok , what are the acpi setting, kernel parameters. You can find this out by pressing 'e' when the grub screen is showing. I should have taken note when I had debian installed. On Tue, 21 Jan 2020, 05:13 Zahid Rahman, wrote: > Thank you. > > I have been getting same problem with ubuntu. I think these linux > operating systems has corrupted some Table on my laptop. > > Although fedora has wifi driver , Debian does not. > > Ubuntu did not have a wifi driver, but later wifi driver came with a > software update. > But then ubuntu would only work, > go to login screen in recovery mode due to this acpi issue. > > So now I am using open suse. > That operating system is compensating for the corrupted BIOS table and > has wifi driver. For some reason open opensuse.org is extremely fast > compare to all linux operating system. > > > > > > > On Mon, 20 Jan 2020, 22:11 Jonathan Dowland, > wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 03:03:44PM +, Zahid Rahman wrote: >> >I would appreciate if some one can tell me the precise kernel parameter >> >values so the laptop >> >will turm off and I promise to turn off software updates after that. >> >FEDORA 31. >> >> You've sent this to the Debian User list, for Debian users. You probably >> want the Fedora Users list instead: >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users.lists.fedoraproject.org/ >> >> >> -- >> >> Jonathan Dowland >> >>
Re: noapi acpi=off
Thank you. I have been getting same problem with ubuntu. I think these linux operating systems has corrupted some Table on my laptop. Although fedora has wifi driver , Debian does not. Ubuntu did not have a wifi driver, but later wifi driver came with a software update. But then ubuntu would only work, go to login screen in recovery mode due to this acpi issue. So now I am using open suse. That operating system is compensating for the corrupted BIOS table and has wifi driver. For some reason open opensuse.org is extremely fast compare to all linux operating system. On Mon, 20 Jan 2020, 22:11 Jonathan Dowland, wrote: > On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 03:03:44PM +, Zahid Rahman wrote: > >I would appreciate if some one can tell me the precise kernel parameter > >values so the laptop > >will turm off and I promise to turn off software updates after that. > >FEDORA 31. > > You've sent this to the Debian User list, for Debian users. You probably > want the Fedora Users list instead: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users.lists.fedoraproject.org/ > > > -- > > Jonathan Dowland > >
Re: Fwd: Re: AMD 10.2 netinstall
On Mon 20 Jan 2020 at 17:09:33 (-0800), Rick Thomas wrote: > Whether you can use the "netinstall" CD depends on whether your device's > network connection requires one of those non-free drivers. If it needs a > driver that isn't on the CD (which is more likely, the smaller the install > medium) to retrieve the drivers it needs... I'm confused. I thought you were discussing firmware. I was under the impression that the non-free firmware on the netinstall CD was the same as that on the DVDs, ie the files under http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/ > Well, you get the picture. (If not, read "Catch 22" by Joseph Heller... In > fact, read it anyway if you haven't already!) I watched the movie instead. Unforgettable opening sequence, but has to be seen on the big screen. > Enjoy! > Rick Thanks for including the other side of this conversation. Perhaps the OP could reply to the list? > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2020, at 1:58 PM, Thomas Hilbert wrote: > > Hey Rick > > > > Thanks for that response. What you describe below was my understanding > > going into it, but then it didn't load the driver without my > > intervention. Perhaps it is because I used the ~350mb netinstaller NOT > > the full CD or DVD iso's...though I haven't seen that explicitly > > documented anywhere. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Tom > > > > On 1/19/20 9:18 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: > > > The "unofficial" firmware installer iso has a bunch of > > > non-free/proprietary drivers/firmware for various adapters and devices > > > that do not have open-source drivers, but that your machine may need to > > > run correctly. > > > > > > For example, a laptop may have a wi-fi built-in from a manufacturer who > > > is unwilling to release the source code for the wi-fi device's firmware. > > > The "unofficial" installer CD has the necessary firmware in the form of a > > > "binary blob" that can be installed to make the laptop's wi-fi work with > > > Linux. > > > > > > Hope That Helps! > > > Rick > > > > > > - Original message - > > > From: Thomas Hilbert > > > To: Rick Thomas > > > Subject: Re: AMD 10.2 netinstall > > > Date: Sunday, January 19, 2020 5:50 PM > > > > > > Good to know about the expert option. So what does the Non-Free, > > > firmware installer get you over the standard all open source installer? > > > > > > On 1/19/20 2:35 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > > >>> Since you have to install the firmware-linux-nonfree that means that > > >>> it s not installed! From what I remember > > >>> you need to select those packages at the end of the base image > > >>> installation. > > >> And you must do an "expert" install, in order to see that option. If > > >> you do a "Standard" install, you won't get a chance. > > >> > > >> There's probably something you can put in the boot args that will force > > >> it to install the firmware-linux-nonfree package, but I don't know what > > >> that is. > > >> > > >> Rick > > >> > > > Cheers, David.
Re: Use system drive, in another system
On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 4:48 AM Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > On 1/20/20 9:50 AM, Esteban L wrote: > > I have Debian installed on a computer which functions as my server > > (email, webhost, smb, etc).. > > > > I want to upgrade the hardware, but don't necessary want to setup all > > the systems again. > > > > I think Docker would be good for this -- will set that up in the future. > =) > > > > But, for a quicky solution, I was wonder if I could just drop the hard > > drive into another case (new board, processor, ram, etc...), and it > > would still work?? > A variation of this is, actually fairly common: Install Debian (or other Distro) on a USB Stick, and then move that Stick to another System. It's like a Hard Drive. Now, what has caused me trouble here, are the Devices, such as Network Adapters, Sound Cards, and Graphics, to name three. > > > > I have never tried it, that's why I am asking. =) > > > > I have Debian 9 installed. > The issues I encountered, occurred with other Distributions also. > Also, would there be any dangers in trying? > How important is it, that this work? If computer architectures are the same on the old server and new (e.g. > AMD64) then all stuff should work. > Not necessarily. Good luck! Kenneth Parker
Re: Fwd: Re: AMD 10.2 netinstall
Whether you can use the "netinstall" CD depends on whether your device's network connection requires one of those non-free drivers. If it needs a driver that isn't on the CD (which is more likely, the smaller the install medium) to retrieve the drivers it needs... Well, you get the picture. (If not, read "Catch 22" by Joseph Heller... In fact, read it anyway if you haven't already!) Enjoy! Rick On Mon, Jan 20, 2020, at 1:58 PM, Thomas Hilbert wrote: > Hey Rick > > Thanks for that response. What you describe below was my understanding > going into it, but then it didn't load the driver without my > intervention. Perhaps it is because I used the ~350mb netinstaller NOT > the full CD or DVD iso's...though I haven't seen that explicitly > documented anywhere. > > Thanks > > > Tom > > On 1/19/20 9:18 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: > > The "unofficial" firmware installer iso has a bunch of non-free/proprietary > > drivers/firmware for various adapters and devices that do not have > > open-source drivers, but that your machine may need to run correctly. > > > > For example, a laptop may have a wi-fi built-in from a manufacturer who is > > unwilling to release the source code for the wi-fi device's firmware. The > > "unofficial" installer CD has the necessary firmware in the form of a > > "binary blob" that can be installed to make the laptop's wi-fi work with > > Linux. > > > > Hope That Helps! > > Rick > > > > - Original message - > > From: Thomas Hilbert > > To: Rick Thomas > > Subject: Re: AMD 10.2 netinstall > > Date: Sunday, January 19, 2020 5:50 PM > > > > Good to know about the expert option. So what does the Non-Free, > > firmware installer get you over the standard all open source installer? > > > > On 1/19/20 2:35 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > >>> Since you have to install the firmware-linux-nonfree that means that > >>> it s not installed! From what I remember > >>> you need to select those packages at the end of the base image > >>> installation. > >> And you must do an "expert" install, in order to see that option. If you > >> do a "Standard" install, you won't get a chance. > >> > >> There's probably something you can put in the boot args that will force it > >> to install the firmware-linux-nonfree package, but I don't know what that > >> is. > >> > >> Rick > >> >
Re: Use system drive, in another system
On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 22:19:37 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 20 ian 20, 08:50:07, Esteban L wrote: > > I have Debian installed on a computer which functions as my server > > (email, webhost, smb, etc).. > > > > I want to upgrade the hardware, but don't necessary want to setup all > > the systems again. > > > > I think Docker would be good for this -- will set that up in the future. =) > > > > How should Docker help with this? > > > But, for a quicky solution, I was wonder if I could just drop the hard > > drive into another case (new board, processor, ram, etc...), and it > > would still work?? > > One thing that you need to prepare for is the change of network > interface name. Regardless of the naming scheme in use it will very > likely change. Didn't in my case. Ethernet and USB wireless dongle kept the same names in the new box as the old one. I used original hard drive from the old box in the new one. Booted right up. Wirelss worked, too. That surprised me. Didn't have to do anything. I was up and running in 60 seconds! Didn't test onboard Ethernet though. It's disabled. As it's impractical to connect it due to the locations of the box and the router. B
Re: Use system drive, in another system
Charles Curley wrote: > As others have attested, it does work. However back it up first. > Paranoids live longer. backup is good idea, but not a precondition in this case. it could be that OP needs to use rescue disc to recreate initrd if the drivers needed are not loaded and the transition path is not mentioned. Usually the default debian initrd adds most or all of the drivers to the initrd, so this is unlikely to happen, but you never know. I personally use a USB stick as rescue system on all PC/laptops I have and it just works - even AMD/Intel. regards
Re: noapi acpi=off
On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 03:03:44PM +, Zahid Rahman wrote: I would appreciate if some one can tell me the precise kernel parameter values so the laptop will turm off and I promise to turn off software updates after that. FEDORA 31. You've sent this to the Debian User list, for Debian users. You probably want the Fedora Users list instead: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users.lists.fedoraproject.org/ -- Jonathan Dowland
Re: Use system drive, in another system
On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 08:50:07 +0100 Esteban L wrote: > But, for a quicky solution, I was wonder if I could just drop the hard > drive into another case (new board, processor, ram, etc...), and it > would still work?? As others have attested, it does work. However back it up first. Paranoids live longer. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/
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Re: Use system drive, in another system
On Lu, 20 ian 20, 08:50:07, Esteban L wrote: > I have Debian installed on a computer which functions as my server > (email, webhost, smb, etc).. > > I want to upgrade the hardware, but don't necessary want to setup all > the systems again. > > I think Docker would be good for this -- will set that up in the future. =) How should Docker help with this? > But, for a quicky solution, I was wonder if I could just drop the hard > drive into another case (new board, processor, ram, etc...), and it > would still work?? One thing that you need to prepare for is the change of network interface name. Regardless of the naming scheme in use it will very likely change. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Use system drive, in another system
On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 08:50:07 +0100 Esteban L wrote: > I have Debian installed on a computer which functions as my server > (email, webhost, smb, etc).. > > I want to upgrade the hardware, but don't necessary want to setup all > the systems again. I did that yesterday with a new build Ryzen 5 1600 system. Took the MBR hard drive out of my 13 year old, nonuefi, MBR only system which had been upgraded numerous times over those years[1], and plugged it into the new system. Booted right up. No problems. However, I did check that new MB was set for no Secureboot, no Fastboot, Legacy mode, which by default it was. > I think Docker would be good for this -- will set that up in the future. =) My old system was window manager only, Openbox, and a single LX panel. No desktop or login manager. Boots to terminal, then login and startx. > But, for a quicky solution, I was wonder if I could just drop the hard > drive into another case (new board, processor, ram, etc...), and it > would still work?? I've done this numerious times over the past 20 years since I switched to Linux from the Amiga. Very rarely was there a problem not even when one system was Intel-based and the other AMD. > I have never tried it, that's why I am asking. =) > > I have Debian 9 installed. Me, too. Even Windows XP running in Virtualbox worked on the new system. > Also, would there be any dangers in trying? I doubt it. I've had failures, but nothing was damaged or corrupted. System either would not boot or would, but X failed, but terminal always worked. B [1] MSI and ASRock MBs, Athlon64 single and dual core, Phenom Quad-core CPUs; 3 or 4 graphic cards, 3 DDR2 RAM upgrades from 2 to 8 GB, 2 system hard drives, 3 keyboards and 3 mouses all PS/2, 3 monitors.
Re: Jittery desktop mode.
* Peter Easthope [20-01/19=Su 17:36 -0600]: > [...] components in the desktop begin flashing [...] > indicator in the center of the screen rapidly cycles > [...] seems to be triggered by a mouse click [...]. At > present I wouldn't know what to file a bug report against. This seems more like an incipient hardware failure than a software bug. I've been living with a flaky Logitech optical mouse for years, and when stuff like this starts happening, I can usually make it stop by unplugging the mouse then plugging it back in. Sometimes it takes several tries, or various forms of percussive engineering. You might find relevant error messages in . * [full quote:] > In Debian 10, since an update a few weeks back, the display has > included a weird spontaneous jittery mode. The browser can work > for several minutes with no problem. Then with no warning > components in the desktop begin flashing. A desktop chooser or > indicator in the center of the screen rapidly cycles 0, 1, 2, 3, 0, ... > > It seems to be triggered by a mouse click; haven't found anything > more specific. If keyboard and mouse input are suspended for > several seconds the activity dies down. When the episode is > finished, seemingly normal usage can continue. > > A few seconds of the behavior is visible here. > http://easthope.ca/Debian10.2.2020.01.19.mp4 > > Wayland/westan is also installed. In weston the mouse pointer > can jump erratically but other graphical components are stable. > > At present I wouldn't know what to file a bug report against. > > Ideas? > > Thanks,... P. > > -- > Tel.: +1 604 670 0140 Bcc: peter at easthope. ca
noapi acpi=off
Hi,
The idea to introduce this acpi change in the software updates across
linux platforms,
I think was a very bad.
It has meant that either I can't login or I am staring at a purple, or
black blank screen depending on the linux flavour.
or the system is hanging and won't turn off.
Anyway I am currently able to login , but when I log off I have a black
screen but the laptop
doesn't actually power off.
I would appreciate if some one can tell me the precise kernel parameter
values so the laptop
will turm off and I promise to turn off software updates after that.
FEDORA 31.
# grubby --info /boot/vmlinuz-5.4.10-200.fc31.x86_64
index=0
kernel="/boot/vmlinuz-5.4.10-200.fc31.x86_64"
args="ro resume=/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-swap
rd.lvm.lv=fedora_localhost-live/root
rd.lvm.lv=fedora_localhost-live/swap rhgb quiet noapic acpi=off"
root="/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-root"
initrd="/boot/initramfs-5.4.10-200.fc31.x86_64.img"
title="Fedora (5.4.10-200.fc31.x86_64) 31 (Thirty One)"
id="0cf110914feb47d2b515ea01d0de0c99-5.4.10-200.fc31.x86_64"
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Re: Problem with slow local network access
On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 08:33 Tom Browder wrote: > Just recently I've noticed a tremendous slow down in my normal work flow > between two local hosts on my home wireless network. I use a Terminix app > on an iPad to ssh into my laptop running Debian 10 Buster. > Please disregard, I just found my interface settings have changed. I have no idea why, but I'll come back if fixing that doesn't help. -Tom
Problem with slow local network access
Just recently I've noticed a tremendous slow down in my normal work flow between two local hosts on my home wireless network. I use a Terminix app on an iPad to ssh into my laptop running Debian 10 Buster. With Terminix I get to an external server running Debian 9 quickly, but access to the internal laptop is slw! I have been using the same /etc/hosts file for years to define the IP of local servers, and each server has its IP defined via its interface files. I just noticed in my laptops /etc/resolv.conf file the following entries: # Generated by NetworkManager nameserver 68.105.28.11 nameserver 68.105.29.11 nameserver 68.105.28.12 # NOTE: the libc resolver may not support more than 3 nameservers. # The nameservers listed below may not be recognized. nameserver 2001:578:3f::30 nameserver 2001:578:3f:1::30 Could that be part of the problem? I've never touched that file, nor have I touched it with the previous laptop it replaced. A previous query to this list when I first noticed a slight slowdown some months ago elicited comments about rebooting the network modem but that doesn't seem to help. Suggestions welcome! Thanks. -Tom
Re: Use system drive, in another system
On 1/20/20, Felix Miata wrote: > Esteban L composed on 2020-01-20 08:50 (UTC+0100): > > >> But, for a quicky solution, I was wonder if I could just drop the hard >> drive into another case (new board, processor, ram, etc...), and it >> would still work?? > >> I have never tried it, that's why I am asking. =) > > I've done it rather often, simply taking a HD out of one PC and putting it > in > another, though I mostly stick with Intel's CPUs and chipsets. One routine > change > such an operation usually dictates has to do with a change in MAC address, > fixed > IP, and unique hostname, all at most trivial adjustments to make. I've done it, too, multiple times over. The latest experience was impressive *to me*. I debootstrap, super basic, minimal programs that a casual blogger/perennially amateur photographer might use.. There was a smudge on the screen so I reached out and wiped it off. Ended up messing up something in my Thunar file manager because TOUCHSCREEN worked. It was a pleasant surprise that I could install a minimal Debian instance on my beatup old ASUS, move that install over to a Dell Inspiron Duo without tweaking anything.. and that touchscreen feature, that method of User input, worked like that without intervention. That's nice to know because maybe someone installs and something glitches and.. touchscreen is their only way to finish out whatever happen. Who knows... it could happen. :) CHOICE! OPTIONS! VARIETY! #ThankYou yet again, Debian Developers AND Maintainers! Cindy :) -- Cindy-Sue Causey Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * runs with birdseed *
Re: Poll about DVD drive behavior
On Mon, 20 Jan 2020 at 21:44, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > David wrote: > > After 10 minutes, the tray is still open. > > ata-HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GH24NSD1_KD6I75B5854 > > Now it is getting interesting. I have a GH24NSC0 which does pull in. > Firmware version is "LK00". Yours is reported by lshw as "LW00". > > The GH24NSD1 seems to be a younger version of the GH24NSC0 with the > additional ability to perform LightScribe and a bit more drive buffer. > The firmware names might indicate that yours is also individually > younger than mine. (For both i find firmware with second letter lower > than "K".) > > Do you remember when you bought it ? Yes, it was purchased new in October 2018 in Australia.
Re: Poll about DVD drive behavior
Hi, David wrote: > After 10 minutes, the tray is still open. > ata-HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GH24NSD1_KD6I75B5854 Now it is getting interesting. I have a GH24NSC0 which does pull in. Firmware version is "LK00". Yours is reported by lshw as "LW00". The GH24NSD1 seems to be a younger version of the GH24NSC0 with the additional ability to perform LightScribe and a bit more drive buffer. The firmware names might indicate that yours is also individually younger than mine. (For both i find firmware with second letter lower than "K".) Do you remember when you bought it ? -- Some chatting and moderate nostalgy: Dominique Dumont wrote: > > > - HL-DT-ST_BD-RE_BH08LS20 > Write Speed #3:2.0x4495=8991KB/s > Now, only the slowest write speed is somewhat reliable. My GGW-H20L lives since years on a strict diet of BD-RE media. Already in 2011 it was not possible to buy BD-R media which still would work with it. It cannot format BD-RE any more and likes those formatted by LG BH16NS40 much better than those formatted by ASUS BW-16D1HT or Optiarc BD-5300S. Old people, ya know ... But it is still my fastest drive when it comes to BD-RE burning in stream recording mode. > > > - ATAPI_iHOS104_3775504068_206021500 I wrote: > > A BD-ROM drive. > Back in 2011, this was less expensive than a BD writer. When i wanted a BD-ROM in 2009, the BD-ROM/DVDRW "combo" drive LG GGC-H20L was cheaper than the BD-ROMs and is able to burn CD and DVD. I use it mostly for check-reading. Astoundingly long-living stuff. Have a nice day :) Thomas
Re: Poll about DVD drive behavior
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 21:23, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > So my question to all owners of optical drives which have a motor to pull in > the tray: > Does the tray stay out for clearly more than 200 seconds ? Hi Thomas, I booted my PC and pressed the button on the optical drive to open its tray. After 10 minutes, the tray is still open. Drive details are below. $ ls -l /dev/disk/by-id | grep sr0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2020-01-20 15:32 ata-HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GH24NSD1_KD6I75B5854 -> ../../sr0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2020-01-20 15:32 wwn-0x50014800 -> ../../sr0 # lshw -class disk *-cdrom description: DVD-RAM writer product: DVDRAM GH24NSD1 vendor: HL-DT-ST physical id: 0.1.0 bus info: scsi@1:0.1.0 logical name: /dev/cdrom logical name: /dev/cdrw logical name: /dev/dvd logical name: /dev/dvdrw logical name: /dev/sr0 version: LW00 capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r dvd-ram configuration: ansiversion=5 status=open [... here I removed output of hard drives ...] # cat /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info CD-ROM information, Id: cdrom.c 3.20 2003/12/17 drive name:sr0 drive speed:12 drive # of slots:1 Can close tray:1 Can open tray:1 Can lock tray:1 Can change speed:1 Can select disk:0 Can read multisession:1 Can read MCN:1 Reports media changed:1 Can play audio:1 Can write CD-R:1 Can write CD-RW:1 Can read DVD:1 Can write DVD-R:1 Can write DVD-RAM:1 Can read MRW:1 Can write MRW:1 Can write RAM:1
Re: Use system drive, in another system
Esteban L composed on 2020-01-20 08:50 (UTC+0100): > I have Debian installed on a computer which functions as my server > (email, webhost, smb, etc).. > I want to upgrade the hardware, but don't necessary want to setup all > the systems again. > I think Docker would be good for this -- will set that up in the future. =) Not something I've ever contemplated. > But, for a quicky solution, I was wonder if I could just drop the hard > drive into another case (new board, processor, ram, etc...), and it > would still work?? > I have never tried it, that's why I am asking. =) I've done it rather often, simply taking a HD out of one PC and putting it in another, though I mostly stick with Intel's CPUs and chipsets. One routine change such an operation usually dictates has to do with a change in MAC address, fixed IP, and unique hostname, all at most trivial adjustments to make. Adjusting to different audio hardware can be a bit more bother, but such basics as booting and login are atypically any kind of trouble. Wireless and graphics may require adding firmware or driver that hadn't already been installed. The former is usually worked around via ethernet for connectivity to add, while for the latter it's typically sufficient to login on a vtty to use apt and/or NVidia's installer/uninstaller. There is one potential gotcha. If the disk was used with BIOS RAID, odds are it won't be usable anywhere else without a wipe and fresh installation. > I have Debian 9 installed. > Also, would there be any dangers in trying? No more than time wasted. I've never caused a disk to become corrupted simply from trying it in another PC. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Re: Use system drive, in another system
On 1/20/2020 8:50 AM, Esteban L wrote: > I have Debian installed on a computer which functions as my server > (email, webhost, smb, etc).. > > I want to upgrade the hardware, but don't necessary want to setup all > the systems again. > > I think Docker would be good for this -- will set that up in the future. =) > > But, for a quicky solution, I was wonder if I could just drop the hard > drive into another case (new board, processor, ram, etc...), and it > would still work?? > > I have never tried it, that's why I am asking. =) > > I have Debian 9 installed. > This should work but beware of firmware/driver issue(s). > Also, would there be any dangers in trying? > If you properly power the drive, you should be fine. Personally, I would try the new system with an other drive before using your working drive in the new system or clone your working drive onto a new drive and start from there. -- John Doe
Re: Use system drive, in another system
On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 08:50:07AM +0100, Esteban L wrote: > I have Debian installed on a computer which functions as my server > (email, webhost, smb, etc).. > > I want to upgrade the hardware, but don't necessary want to setup all > the systems again. > > I think Docker would be good for this -- will set that up in the future. =) Not necessarily. Perhaps it's not worth the effort. > But, for a quicky solution, I was wonder if I could just drop the hard > drive into another case (new board, processor, ram, etc...), and it > would still work?? Possibly, possibly not. Imagine you've installed for an i386 architecture, the kernel is (one of the last ;) i386 and your new machine is PowerPC. This won't work. On the other extreme, your old and new CPUs are both X86_64, just different generations: most probably, you'll have the right kernel just in place. There are several in-betweens, like you got your network hardware to run by installing the right firmware, but the new network hardware is different. Definitely worth a try. Just insert the hard drive and try, but expect "some turbulences" on your way. If it doesn't boot, a good choice is always to insert a stick/CD with install media [1] and fire up a "rescue" system: you get a minimal Debian (as with the installer) which tries to recognize the file systems out there: you'll most probably find everything in place. From there you can proceed to install your new kernel and drivers as needed. And, oh. Make sure you have good backups! (at least if your data are important to you, that is). Cheers [1] aka "install CD" -- tomás signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Use system drive, in another system
On 1/20/20 9:50 AM, Esteban L wrote: > I have Debian installed on a computer which functions as my server > (email, webhost, smb, etc).. > > I want to upgrade the hardware, but don't necessary want to setup all > the systems again. > > I think Docker would be good for this -- will set that up in the future. =) > > But, for a quicky solution, I was wonder if I could just drop the hard > drive into another case (new board, processor, ram, etc...), and it > would still work?? > > I have never tried it, that's why I am asking. =) > > I have Debian 9 installed. > > Also, would there be any dangers in trying? > If computer architectures are the same on the old server and new (e.g. AMD64) then all stuff should work. Kind regards Georgi
Re: how to disable gdm3 via systemctl?
Hi Andrei, On 2020-01-13 23:40, Andrei POPESCU wrote:> > Display Managers are handled a little bit different than "regular" > services, since only one can run at a time (if you have several > installed), but at least one should be running (to not leave a > potentially inexperienced user in front of a text console). > I don't see any reason why it should be impossible to run lightdm on tty1 and tty2, gdm3 on a vnc session and yet another one on xvfb, all in parallel (just as an example). Wouldn't you agree that this is a config issue, i.e the job of the admin to decide? I can handle an error message triggered by a second dm on tty1, but what chance do I have, if systemctl doesn't work as documented anymore? Regards Harri
Use system drive, in another system
I have Debian installed on a computer which functions as my server (email, webhost, smb, etc).. I want to upgrade the hardware, but don't necessary want to setup all the systems again. I think Docker would be good for this -- will set that up in the future. =) But, for a quicky solution, I was wonder if I could just drop the hard drive into another case (new board, processor, ram, etc...), and it would still work?? I have never tried it, that's why I am asking. =) I have Debian 9 installed. Also, would there be any dangers in trying? Thanks! -- https://www.little-beak.com "Doing what we can."
