Re: How about sources.sources? (Was: Question Regarding sources.list)

2020-05-24 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 24 mai 20, 14:55:33, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
> 
> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sources.sources
> 
> DISCLAIMER: This format was originally found when something like "man
> apt-get", "man apt", or "man sources.list" referenced a standalone
> "man sources.sources" type deal. I can't find it just this second. I
> didn't dream this up and sure don't cognitively function well enough
> to have grasped what APPEARS to be describing it under "DEB822-STYLE
> FORMAT" within "man sources.list".

man sources.list
 
> The rest of the email now...
> 
> For this to work, you have to rename everything else (the files NOT
> directories) or even delete anything else "*.list" because it doesn't
> function otherwise (at least not for ME).

There is no such restriction.
 
> Those don't specifically state "bullseye-updates" anywhere. I DO
> remember addressing it somehow because I have "*-updates" in archived
> sources.list files from various previous *suites*. Having just updated
> 115MB of Bullseye, SOME updates are still working just fine.
> 
> Comparing past DOTlist to present DOTsources, it looks like MY
> bullseye-updates is now covered by that bullseye-security reference.
> That sounds familiar'ish.

bullseye is still (in) testing, -security and -updates are empty.

> FOR ME, this layout/feature/technique didn't work pre-Bullseye.
> Without exiting, rebooting, digging through other... suites.. yada, I
> don't know if this is a new perk for Bullseye or needs tweaked
> differently for past suites.

According to the manpage it was introduced in apt 1.1 (stretch has 
1.4.10).
 
> PPPS Any outside 3rd party type packages that have been given
> permission to set up their own DOTlist files... will potentially
> complain that they can't find something or other yada. They're talking
> about how you may or may not now (?) have to delete DOTlist files for
> this TRICK (i.e. RADICAL.. COOL..) feature to work correctly.

[citation needed]

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: How about sources.sources? (Was: Question Regarding sources.list)

2020-05-24 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 5/24/20, Cindy Sue Causey  wrote:
>
> PPPS Any outside 3rd party type packages that have been given
> permission to set up their own DOTlist files... will potentially
> complain that they can't find something or other yada. They're talking
> about how you may or may not now (?) have to delete DOTlist files for
> this TRICK (i.e. RADICAL.. COOL..) feature to work correctly.
>
> Their data can be worked right into that same lineup within that same
> single sources.sources file. Example:
>
> Types: deb
> URIs: https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/
> Suites: stable
> Components: non-free
>
> CAVEAT: You MIGHT or MIGHT NOT still have to work through granting
> them permission via something like that curl/apt-key step. MAYBE. Time
> and case-by-case usage will tell..


Amending this part to mention that the referenced curl/apt-key step is
that one that helps verify the package's integrity before installing.


> PS to that as I look at that block: IF you use Bullseye non-free, that
> right there could possibly be combined into the same single block with
> your Bullseye data. I only use Bullseye main so that won't work for my
> own usage case.


Started playing with this again while waiting for a camera battery to
charge up. You can change the names AND have multiple different files
all ending with DOTsources. It's working the same way that it does
with DOTlist files.

My sources.sources is now momentarily renamed to debian.sources. Also
created a nonfree.sources and plugged that browser block above into
it. Ran "apt-get update" with no sources.sources file... no errors...
no balking. Yay!

#ThankYou to whichever Developers created that option. I really LOVE
that stacked way of cognitively picking out the details from each
block.

Cindy :)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with birdseed *



How about sources.sources? (Was: Question Regarding sources.list)

2020-05-24 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 4/12/20, Chris Debian  wrote:
>
> I recently installed Debian Bullseye
>
> I am a complete beginner.


*heh!* You sound like me. That's about what I do.. Go for unstable as
a newbie. Live #LIFE large! :)


> My sources.list files is below:
>
> # See https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList for more information.
> deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main
> deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main
>
> deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main
> deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main
>
> deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ bullseye-security main
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security/ bullseye-security main


I left that in for comparison. This is mine... except that mine is
instead created as:

/etc/apt/sources.list.d/sources.sources

DISCLAIMER: This format was originally found when something like "man
apt-get", "man apt", or "man sources.list" referenced a standalone
"man sources.sources" type deal. I can't find it just this second. I
didn't dream this up and sure don't cognitively function well enough
to have grasped what APPEARS to be describing it under "DEB822-STYLE
FORMAT" within "man sources.list".

The rest of the email now...

For this to work, you have to rename everything else (the files NOT
directories) or even delete anything else "*.list" because it doesn't
function otherwise (at least not for ME). For example, I leave my old
sources.list in place but change it to sourcesDOTlist. That's just as
a readily available fallback in case sources.sources ever starts
failing.

As of seconds ago, MY *newest* sources.sources file's contents are:

Types: deb deb-src
URIs: http://deb.debian.org/debian http://mirrors.namecheap.com/debian
Suites: bullseye
Components: main

Types: deb
URIs: http://distro.ibiblio.org/debian
Suites: bullseye
Components: main

Types: deb deb-src
URIs: http://security.debian.org/debian-security
Suites: bullseye-security
Components: main contrib non-free

The change I just made was to test drive having more than one
repository in a single line BECAUSE there's an "s" at the end of
"URIs" there. After update, things are perfect with the expected
result being the addition of appropriate new files showing up under
/var/lib/apt/lists. iBiblio has its own entry because it was failing
over deb-src for some reason.

Those don't specifically state "bullseye-updates" anywhere. I DO
remember addressing it somehow because I have "*-updates" in archived
sources.list files from various previous *suites*. Having just updated
115MB of Bullseye, SOME updates are still working just fine.

Comparing past DOTlist to present DOTsources, it looks like MY
bullseye-updates is now covered by that bullseye-security reference.
That sounds familiar'ish.

FOR ME, this layout/feature/technique didn't work pre-Bullseye.
Without exiting, rebooting, digging through other... suites.. yada, I
don't know if this is a new perk for Bullseye or needs tweaked
differently for past suites.

The fail I experienced might boil down to that necessary
bullseye-security v. bullseye-updates change. Maybe that does NOT
apply to previous suites.. or something?

My CHOICE to have "Components: main contrib non-free" for
bullseye-security "suite" is to cover my computer's... hm... just in
case I accidentally/incidentally install something not from main at
some point..

Whoever put this whole sources.sources take on this together, I LOVE
IT! Its layout is easier on my brain for comprehending it as a whole
those rare times I might need to change something. Very snazzy!

PS Easier ONCE you figure out its methodology, that is. :)

PPS "#" comments didn't work for me previously. Just did a test drive,
and they're working fine now. FABULOUS because comments are handy for
e.g. having quick references to favorite repositories that aren't
being used at the moment.

PPPS Any outside 3rd party type packages that have been given
permission to set up their own DOTlist files... will potentially
complain that they can't find something or other yada. They're talking
about how you may or may not now (?) have to delete DOTlist files for
this TRICK (i.e. RADICAL.. COOL..) feature to work correctly.

Their data can be worked right into that same lineup within that same
single sources.sources file. Example:

Types: deb
URIs: https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/
Suites: stable
Components: non-free

CAVEAT: You MIGHT or MIGHT NOT still have to work through granting
them permission via something like that curl/apt-key step. MAYBE. Time
and case-by-case usage will tell..

PS to that as I look at that block: IF you use Bullseye non-free, that
right there could possibly be combined into the same single block with
your Bullseye data. I only use Bullseye main so that won't work for my
own usage case.

Cindy :)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with birdseed *



Re: USB controller resets when burning CD

2020-05-24 Thread David Farrier

deloptes wrote:

Unfortunately, trying different USB ports does not make any difference, 

as
all my external USB ports belong to the same controller. Would like to 

try
your other suggestion, unloading xhci_hcd and let the system fall back 

to
ehci_hcd. How do I do that? I tried blacklisting xhci_hcd, following 

the

instructions in the Debian Kernel Manual Chapter 6. When I rebooted,

xhci_hcd loaded anyhow.



sudo rmmod xhci_hcd ?


Unfortunately, it is not that simple. The initial challenge is rmmod 
refuses to remove xhci_hcd, saying it is already in use. I figured out 
that challenge. First you have to remove xhci_pci, then it will let you 
remove xhci_hcd. The bigger challenge is, removing the xhci modules leaves 
all the external USB ports disabled. I was hoping the system would fall 
back to using ehci_hcd for those ports, but no such luck. Maybe I need to 
reinitialize something?