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Re: Conseils pour le développement sur Debian d'applications natives Windows/Linux

2020-11-19 Thread Fabrice BAUZAC-STEHLY

Olivier writes:

> Je serai très curieux de recueillir ici des retours d'expérience sur le
> développement sous Debian (Buster) d'applications natives Windows/Linux.
>
> 1. Par application native, j'entends une application graphique avec
> quelques champs de saisie et quelques boutons.
> L'homogénéité du style de l'application avec les autres n'a pas
> d'importance pour mon cas.
> Le fait de coder avec des technos Web (HTML, JS, CSS) ou classiques n'est
> pas important non plus.

Je pense que tu peux le faire sans trop de problemes avec Java, en
utilisant la GUI Swing (ou JavaFX), et Maven.

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Re: Réduire la verbosité de cron

2020-11-19 Thread Fabrice BAUZAC-STEHLY

steve writes:

> Le 18-11-2020, à 22:13:35 +0100, Fabrice BAUZAC-STEHLY a écrit :
>>steve writes:

>>> Cron remplit les logs d'information que je considère comme inutile.
>>> Nov 18 18:05:01 box CRON[18456]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for 
>>> user _tuptime by (uid=0)
>>> Nov 18 18:05:01 box CRON[18456]: pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for 
>>> user _tuptime

>>Ce sont des logs generes par le composant "session" de pam_unix(8).

>>Si tu n'en veux pas, je pense qu'il faut que tu modifies la
>>configuration PAM de cron.

>>Chez moi, j'ai
>>  /etc/pam.d/cron
>>qui inclut:
>>  @include common-session-noninteractive
>>et /etc/pam.d/common-session-noninteractive contient:
>>  session required pam_unix.so

>>Je ne connais pas bien PAM mais je pense qu'il faut modifier
>>/etc/pam.d/cron:

>>- Remplacer le "@include common-session-noninteractive" par le contenu
>>du fichier

> Qu'est-ce que ça apporterait ?

Le but est de ne modifier que la configuration PAM de cron, pas de
modifier d'autres choses comme sudo ou systemd-user.  Si tu supprimes la
ligne "session required pam_unix.so" du fichier
common-session-noninteractive, tu vas impacter tous les programmes qui
l'incluent.  Remplacer le @include par le contenu du fichier te permet
de supprimer la ligne juste pour cron.

>>- puis supprimer la ligne "session required pam_unix.so"

> C'est pas un truc à se faire locked out ?

A partir du moment ou tu ne modifies que ce qui est specifique a cron,
tu ne peux avoir d'impact que sur cron.

N'hesite pas a te documenter sur PAM.

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Re: Conseils pour le développement sur Debian d'applications natives Windows/Linux

2020-11-19 Thread Olivier

@Basile:

Merci pour tes réponses.

La possibilité de cross-compiler est une fonction clairement mise en avant
par le language Go (cf [4]).
Il semble même possible de cibler MacOS sans posséder la moindre licence ou
le moindre matériel Apple !
J'imagine que "le terrain a été juridiquement balayé".


[4]
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-build-go-executables-for-multiple-platforms-on-ubuntu-16-04

Le jeu. 19 nov. 2020 à 16:58, Basile Starynkevitch 
a écrit :

>
> On 11/19/20 4:11 PM, Olivier wrote:
>
> Bonjour,
>
> Je serai très curieux de recueillir ici des retours d'expérience sur le
> développement sous Debian (Buster) d'applications natives Windows/Linux.
>
>
> Nota Bene:* je n'ai jamais de ma vie utilisé Windows!* (Mais Linux depuis
> 1993, et Unix depuis 1985)
>
>
> Ça doit être faisable, mais *ça peut prendre des semaines de travail*, et
> il n'est pas certain que l'exécutable ainsi produit soit légalement
> diffusable. Je suggère une approche WSL et la *consultation d'un avocat
> spécialiste en licences logicielles*.
>
>
> Des pistes possibles seraient
>
>
> Lire avec attention http://www.fr.linuxfromscratch.org/
>
> Compiler GNU binutils depuis son code source depuis
> https://www.gnu.org/software/binutils/
>
> Compiler GCC depuis son code source sur http://gcc.gnu.org/
>
> Utiliser une bibliothèque serveur HTTP telle que
> https://coralbits.com/static/onion/
>
> Il se trouve que j'ai contribué aussi bien à GCC qu'à libonion.
>
>
>
> La question centrale, c'est combien de temps êtes vous prêt à dépenser, et
> pourquoi (et pour vous, qui vous paie ce temps de travail, qui se compte en
> semaines).
>
>
> Il est possible que l'acquisition d'une licence Windows soit moins
> onéreuse que tout le travail à faire pour l'éviter.
>
>
> Cordialement
>
>
> --
> Basile Starynkevitch   
> 
> (only mine opinions / les opinions sont miennes uniquement)
> 92340 Bourg-la-Reine, France
> web page: starynkevitch.net/Basile/
>
>

Re: Conseils pour le développement sur Debian d'applications natives Windows/Linux

2020-11-19 Thread Olivier

C. Sur Flutter/Dart, dans [2], on peut lire qu'il faut
construire/empaqueter sur la même plateforme que la plateforme cible.

D. J'ai découvert Guark (cf [3]). Ça a l'air particulièrement intéressant.

[2] https://flutter.dev/desktop

[3] https://github.com/guark/guark


Le jeu. 19 nov. 2020 à 16:11, Olivier  a écrit :

> Bonjour,
>
> Je serai très curieux de recueillir ici des retours d'expérience sur le
> développement sous Debian (Buster) d'applications natives Windows/Linux.
>
> 1. Par application native, j'entends une application graphique avec
> quelques champs de saisie et quelques boutons.
> L'homogénéité du style de l'application avec les autres n'a pas
> d'importance pour mon cas.
> Le fait de coder avec des technos Web (HTML, JS, CSS) ou classiques n'est
> pas important non plus.
> Si j'ai la possibilité, j'apprécierai de coder en Python.
>
> 2. Un point très important pour moi est, par contre, si c'est possible de
> pouvoir empaqueter depuis Linux/Debian l'application Windows et son
> installateur sans utiliser Windows.
> (Plusieurs outils comme Kivy annonce la possibilité de développer pour
> plusieurs plateformes, mais si j'ai bien compris, il faut empaqueter sur la
> même plateforme que la cible).
>
> A. Qu'en pensez-vous ? Avez-vous déjà expérimenté une telle chose ?
> B. En surfant, j'ai lu que le langage Go (cf [1] annonce la possibilité
> d'empaqueter sur Linux pour Windows. Qu'en penser ?
> C. J'ai lu des infos sur Flutter/Dart ou Qt mais rien de précis sur
> l'empaquetage.
>
> [1] https://golangr.com/gui/
>
> Slts
>

Re: Inestabilidad en Debian?

2020-11-19 Thread Camaleón

El 2020-11-19 a las 22:46 -, user escribió:

> Me pregunto, si solo a mi me sucede, que Estable, falle con 1 raton usb, 
> se cuelgue cinnamon, se cuelgue firefox, los log tienen caracteres 
> extrnos, y etc.

La versión estable no suele fallar con (casi) nada, es una roca.
 
> Que no funcione el instalador de testing, despues de hacer una 
> instalacion correctamente, se traba en "seleccionar e instalar software".

Eso es más normal, prueba con otra versión del instalador más antigua.
 
> En caso que solo me suceda a mi, hare una instalacion limpia, pero me 
> gustaria saber si alguien mas tiene algo parecido, por favor.

Prueba antes con una LiveCD y déjala ejecutándose durante un día 
completo para ver si desempeña correctamente.

Saludos, 

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Re: Conseils pour le développement sur Debian d'applications natives Windows/Linux

2020-11-19 Thread Étienne Mollier

Bonjour Olivier,

Olivier, on 2020-11-19 16:11:32 +0100:
> 2. Un point très important pour moi est, par contre, si c'est possible de
> pouvoir empaqueter depuis Linux/Debian l'application Windows et son
> installateur sans utiliser Windows.
> (Plusieurs outils comme Kivy annonce la possibilité de développer pour
> plusieurs plateformes, mais si j'ai bien compris, il faut empaqueter sur la
> même plateforme que la cible).

Je ne suis absolument pas versé dans le domaine de la
distribution de programmes pour Windows, mais en faisant une
petite recherche dans les paquets de Debian Sid, je suis tombé
sur "gcab".  L'outil est mis à disposition via la collection des
"msitools" :

https://wiki.gnome.org/msitools

| msitools plans to be a solution for packaging and deployment
| of cross-compiled Windows applications. 

C'est un collection de programmes pour empaqueter et déployer
des utilitaires cross-compilés à destination de Windows.
J'ignore ce que ça vaut en pratique, mais à la description, ça
me semblait correspondre à votre cahier des charges.

Quant à tester l'installateur, je suppose que wine ferait
l'affaire dans un premier temps.  Mais à terme, je pense qu'il
faudrait au moins faire un test sur une machine Windows native,
juste pour s'assurer qu'une coquille n'est pas passée entre les
mailles du filet.

Bonne journée,
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Re: How to write in Chinese

2020-11-19 Thread deloptes

Fabrice BAUZAC-STEHLY wrote:

> GNU Emacs comes with

did someone asked about Emacs and I missed it?
The Emacs religion followers never sleep :)

Re: How to write in Chinese

2020-11-19 Thread Fabrice BAUZAC-STEHLY

Markos writes:

> I am studying Chinese and I need to install fonts to type ideograms in
> Debian 9.
>
> I use Brazilian Portuguese, but I don't want to reconfigure my
> computer to type only in Chinese.
>
> Using LibreOffice or with a specific program to generate the ideograms
> only when needed.
>
> Any tip?

FYI, GNU Emacs comes with lots of support for Asiatic languages with a
rich set of input methods, and seems used quite a lot by Asiatic people.
Maybe you'd like to have a look into it?

See e.g.:
- https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/WritingChinese
- http://ergoemacs.org/emacs/emacs_chinese_input.html
- https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/WritingChineseWithWuBi
- https://emacs-china.org/

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Re: How to write in Chinese

2020-11-19 Thread Ming

On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 00:04:43 -0300, Markos wrote:
> Please,
> 
> I am studying Chinese and I need to install fonts to type ideograms
> in Debian 9.
> 
> I use Brazilian Portuguese, but I don't want to reconfigure my
> computer to type only in Chinese.
> 
> Using LibreOffice or with a specific program to generate the
> ideograms only when needed.
> 
> Any tip?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Markos
> 

If Chinese cannot be displayed normally on your computer, you may need
a font. But with your description, you might just need an input
method?

For fonts, I recommend WenQuanYi(??), it is a very good open
source Chinese font. Just use the command to install it (actually, it is
a set of fonts with different styles, you can choose to install
according to your needs):

apt install fonts-wqy-microhei
apt install fonts-wqy-zenhei

If what you actually need is an input method, I think ibus may be a good
choice, you can configure Chinese input through its GUI.
I actually use the ibus-rime(a rime input method engine encapsulated
using the ibus framework), but it may require more manual configuration
and is not suitable for beginners of a language.

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Re: How to write in Chinese

2020-11-19 Thread Weaver

On 20-11-2020 13:04, Markos wrote:
> Please,
> 
> I am studying Chinese and I need to install fonts to type ideograms in Debian 
> 9.
> 
> I use Brazilian Portuguese, but I don't want to reconfigure my
> computer to type only in Chinese.
> 
> Using LibreOffice or with a specific program to generate the ideograms
> only when needed.
> 
> Any tip?

It could well be worth your while to get on top of LaTeX, through the
Texmaker editor or similar.
Install the font programmes you require, and employ Babel.
You can employ both languages within the same document.
It's what I do.
It's not such a learning curve, but it depends on how serious you are.
Cheers!

Harry Weaver.

-- 
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It gives you enough rope to hang yourself'.
-- Miguel Van Smoorenburg

Re: How to write in Chinese

2020-11-19 Thread Rob Hurle

I use Debian 9 and have installed iBus.  It is possible to type Vietnamese,
Chinese (in pinyin and/or characters) and English.  Many other languages
are available as input methods.  The method of swapping between the
language is configurable (I use alt/space).  Been very reliable.  你 好

Rob Hurle

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On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 at 15:00, Markos  wrote:

> Please,
>
> I am studying Chinese and I need to install fonts to type ideograms in
> Debian 9.
>
> I use Brazilian Portuguese, but I don't want to reconfigure my computer
> to type only in Chinese.
>
> Using LibreOffice or with a specific program to generate the ideograms
> only when needed.
>
> Any tip?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Markos
>
>

How to write in Chinese

2020-11-19 Thread Markos


Please,

I am studying Chinese and I need to install fonts to type ideograms in 
Debian 9.


I use Brazilian Portuguese, but I don't want to reconfigure my computer 
to type only in Chinese.


Using LibreOffice or with a specific program to generate the ideograms 
only when needed.


Any tip?

Thank you,

Markos

Re: Inestabilidad en Debian?

2020-11-19 Thread Walter Omar Dari


Hola...

El 19/11/20 a las 19:46, user escribió:

Hola

Me pregunto, si solo a mi me sucede, que Estable, falle con 1 raton usb,
se cuelgue cinnamon, se cuelgue firefox, los log tienen caracteres
extrnos, y etc.

Que no funcione el instalador de testing, despues de hacer una
instalacion correctamente, se traba en "seleccionar e instalar software".

En caso que solo me suceda a mi, hare una instalacion limpia, pero me
gustaria saber si alguien mas tiene algo parecido, por favor.



Entre la semana pasada y ésta, instalé un Buster y Bullseye en una 
portátil y un PC de escritorio sin ningún tipo de problemas.


Lo que te pasa "suena" a problemas de hardware, capaz que memoria...


Saludos y suerte !

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Re: alias permite pasar un parámetro ?

2020-11-19 Thread Walter Omar Dari


Hola Fran...

El 19/11/20 a las 15:45, Fran Blanco escribió:

En donde has definido $1?


Al establecer el alias...

alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/$1'

... luego al hacer...

cs nombre_directorio

... no tomaba el valor en $1, pero es porque no se pueden pasar 
parámetros cuando usas alias, salvo que el alias represente un comando 
que soporte parámetros.


Ya lo solucioné agregando una función al .bash_profile


Saludos,





On Thu, Nov 19, 2020, 19:42 Walter Omar Dari > wrote:


Hola gente:

Intentando agilizar algunas tareas, intentaba hacer un alias que me
ubique en el directorio de trabajo de un sistema en particular.

Los fuentes de los sistemas los tengo ubicados en
/home/sistemas/public_html/nombre_sistema/

La idea era crear el alias cs para pasarle como parámetro el
"nombre_sistema" y que me ubique en el directorio deseado.

Si creo el alias de esta forma...

alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/'

... cs  me deja en public_html


Pero quería pasarle un parámetro e intenté agregando $1, pero no me
funciona...

alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/$1'
alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/"$1"'

A esos dos me los acepta, pero le paso el nombre del directorio y
siempre me deja en public_html

Es decir   cs swc   no me ubica en /home/sistemas/public_html/swc/

La cuestión es que no se si estoy haciendo algo mal o si alias no
soporta parámetros.

Les agradecerá cualquier información al respecto.


Saludos,

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Re: AppImage files (was: clipgrab as alternative to youtube-dl)

2020-11-19 Thread Marc Shapiro


On 11/18/20 6:07 AM, Fred wrote:

On 11/17/20 11:47 PM, Anssi Saari wrote:

Fred  writes:


There is a binary for Linux available for download as a AppImage
file. What is an AppImage file and what does one do with it. The
program was probably compiled for Ubuntu.  Is it likely to also run on
Debian?


AppImage files are a kind of package that contain an app and all its
dependencies so yes, it's very likely it'll run on Debian. All you have
to do is make the AppImage file executable and run it. I recently got
into these since I have a problem with the Firefox Debian bundles but
someone maintains a current Firefox build as AppImage.



Hi,
Thanks for your answer.  I was able to get clipgrab to compile but the 
AppImage file is a later version and may be a better choice if it will 
run on Debian.


I am using it on a Ddevuan system and it works just fine.

Marc

Re: cups: Empty Basic password

2020-11-19 Thread Rainer Dorsch

Am Donnerstag, 19. November 2020, 22:20:37 CET schrieb l0f...@tuta.io:
> Hi,
> 
> 19 nov. 2020 à 16:20 de m...@bokomoko.de:
> > Is there anything wrong with my setup? As I wrote before, I see no
> > functional problem.
> 
> You have python-cups installed right?

No, neither on cups server, nor on cups client

rd@home:~$ apt-cache policy python-cups
python-cups:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 1.9.73-2+b1
  Version table:
 1.9.73-2+b1 500
500 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian buster/main armhf Packages
rd@home:~$ logout
Connection to bc closed.
rd@h370:~$ apt-cache policy python-cups
python-cups:
  Installiert:   (keine)
  Installationskandidat: 1.9.73-2+b1
  Versionstabelle:
 1.9.73-2+b1 500
500 http://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/debian buster/main amd64 Packages
rd@h370:~$ 

> What is its version?

Not installed, both systems client and server are Debian buster.

> 
> Has the user been added to lpadmin?
> See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=667995

Which user? My user on the client yes:

rd@h370:~$ groups
rd adm dialout fax cdrom floppy sudo dip video plugdev users lpadmin scanner 
docker vboxusers i2psvc wireshark sispmctl
rd@h370:~$ 


> > 
> There is also another potential solution
> at https://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2055965.html but I'm not
> sure it's recommended...

Not sure if I understand this one.

The problem became worse, it seems to be intermittent, it is gone right now 
(but I am sure it will eventually come back).

Thanks
Rainer

> Best regards,
> l0f4r0


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Re: How to Fix the apt-get install error: “Media change: please insert the disc labeled ...” in Debian 10.

2020-11-19 Thread Edgar Villanueva Jr

Thank you  so much sir!

On Thu, Nov 19, 2020, 4:47 PM Daniel Lange  wrote:

> Hi Edgar,
>
> Am 19.11.20 um 09:04 schrieb Edgar Villanueva Jr:
> > I was amazed by the description that Debian is robust and reliable etc.
> > So I decided to install it. But when I try to install from terminal "Fix
> > the apt-get install error: “Media change: please insert the disc labeled
> > ...” appears. I can't also install software thru discover.
>
> The better mailing list for such requests is debian-user
> (https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/) or a non-English version of it
> (https://lists.debian.org/users.html) if you prefer.
>
> Debian-project is meant to discuss non-technical issues around the
> Debian project, e.g. organization or policy changes.
>
> That said, you likely have a line starting with
>
> deb cdrom: ...
>
> in your /etc/apt/sources.list
>
> comment that line out (as root) by prefixing it with a hash (#) mark:
>
> # deb cdrom: ...
>
> Save the file and that should fix things.
>
> Kind regards,
> Daniel
>

Problems PXE booting a UEFI debian-installer

2020-11-19 Thread Andy Smith

Hi,

I'm new to machines that absolutely require EFI booting. I have a
machine that only has NVMe devices, and I understand it needs to be
installed in EFI mode to boot.

I'm trying to install by PXE. I've done this hundreds of times with
a legacy BIOS, but it's not working for me in EFI mode and I feel
like the problem is with my tftp setup or the netboot files within.

Can anyone see what I'm doing wrong here?

I've prepped my netboot server as covered here:

https://wiki.debian.org/PXEBootInstall

Specifically where it mentions EFI I've made the changes it
suggests:

If you are booting with UEFI, you should link grub and
grubx64.efi into the root of your tftp directory:

# cd /srv/tftp
# ln -s debian-installer/amd64/grubx64.efi .
# ln -s debian-installer/amd64/grub .

You may also have to edit grub/grub.cfg in order to set your
serial console, if needed (I replaced the section about the
graphical terminal)

For that bit I just shoved:

serial --speed=115200 --unit=1 --word=8 --parity=no --stop=1
terminal_input console serial
terminal_output console serial

into the grub/grub.cfg file just after the section at the top about
setting gfxmode.

Also each of the "linux" lines in the menuentry sections I changed
them from:

linux/debian-installer/amd64/linux vga=788 --- quiet

to:

linux/debian-installer/amd64/linux --- console=ttyS1,115200n8r 
console=tty1

because I am doing this on a serial console.

The full content of this grub/grub.cfg file is available here:

https://paste.debian.net/1173533/

When I trigger a PXE boot by telling the machine to give me a boot
menu, then selecting its eth0, I see it get an address from DHCP and
my tftpd logs show it request the correct files:

Nov 20 00:29:48 admin in.tftpd[19654]: RRQ from 192.168.80.30 filename 
debian-installer/amd64/bootnetx64.efi
Nov 20 00:29:49 admin in.tftpd[19654]: tftp: client does not accept options
Nov 20 00:29:49 admin in.tftpd[19655]: RRQ from 192.168.80.30 filename 
debian-installer/amd64/bootnetx64.efi
Nov 20 00:29:50 admin in.tftpd[19656]: RRQ from 192.168.80.30 filename 
debian-installer/amd64/grubx64.efi

On the console of the machine I see it say that it's downloaded an
"NBP" then the screen shows:

Welcome to GRUB!

then after a pause it clears and I just have a grub> prompt where I
would normally have expected the installer menu. Therefore I believe
it has correctly downloaded the files it needs, I'm looking at the
running grub from the tftp server, yet something has gone wrong with
the grub configuration.

I have tried both the buster netboot.tar.gz and the daily d-i build
and get the same behaviour with both.

I've also read the relevant part of the release notes:

https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/ch04s05.en.html

and they don't tell me anything different than what I've already
done, either.

Any ideas?

Cheers,
Andy

Re: (deb-cat) Intervencio externa sobre actualitzacions del Firefox

2020-11-19 Thread Alex Muntada

Hola Narcis

> De tant en tant (i parlo de menys d'una vegada per setmana),
> en intentar navegar amb una nova solapa aquesta versió 78.x
> em diu: «El Firefox s'ha actualitzat en segon pla. Feu clic
> a «Reinicia el Firefox» per completar l'actualització.»
> 
> Algú sap com IMPEDIR que el Firefox s'actualitzi sense
> demanar-ho?

Aquest missatge surt quan tens el firefox obert i detecta que
s'han actualitzat els binaris del paquet firefox-esr (amb el
servei unattended-upgrades o el que utilitzis habitualment per
mantenir el sistema al dia).

Justament aquest matí jo l'he actualitzat a mà perquè ahir[1]
es va publicar una vulnerabilitat:

$ grep 'upgrade firefox-esr:' /var/log/dpkg.log | tail -1
2020-11-19 08:07:29 upgrade firefox-esr:amd64 78.4.1esr-1~deb10u1 
78.5.0esr-1~deb10u1

Salut,
Alex

 [1] https://www.debian.org/security/2020/dsa-4793

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Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-19 Thread Ulf Volmer

On 19.11.20 22:42, Flo wrote:

> I am using Debian Buster, Thunderbird, Sendmail and popa3d to get emails.
> 
> The mail files for each account are stored at /var/mail. No it has come
> to that point that such a file exceeded 2GB. And 'Get Messages' doesn't
> work anymore.

This limit is defined in the source of popa3d.

ulf@deb10-p330:~/popa3d$ grep -r "#define MAX_MAILBOX_OPEN_BYTES" *
debian/README.Debian:#define MAX_MAILBOX_OPEN_BYTES  2
popa3d-1.0.3/params.h:#define MAX_MAILBOX_OPEN_BYTES   2147483647

I guess you have to recompile the package to change this.
But please consult README.Debian before.

Or (in my opinion the better solution) swicth to dovecot.

Best regards
Ulf

Inestabilidad en Debian?

2020-11-19 Thread user

Hola

Me pregunto, si solo a mi me sucede, que Estable, falle con 1 raton usb, 
se cuelgue cinnamon, se cuelgue firefox, los log tienen caracteres 
extrnos, y etc.

Que no funcione el instalador de testing, despues de hacer una 
instalacion correctamente, se traba en "seleccionar e instalar software".

En caso que solo me suceda a mi, hare una instalacion limpia, pero me 
gustaria saber si alguien mas tiene algo parecido, por favor.

Re: alias permite pasar un parámetro ? * SOLUCIONADO *

2020-11-19 Thread Walter Omar Dari

El 19/11/20 a las 15:51, Matias Mucciolo escribió:

- Original Message -

From: "Walter Omar Dari" 
To: "debian-user-spanish" 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 3:41:52 PM
Subject: alias permite pasar un parámetro ?

Hola gente:

Intentando agilizar algunas tareas, intentaba hacer un alias que me
ubique en el directorio de trabajo de un sistema en particular.

Los fuentes de los sistemas los tengo ubicados en
/home/sistemas/public_html/nombre_sistema/

La idea era crear el alias cs para pasarle como parámetro el
"nombre_sistema" y que me ubique en el directorio deseado.

Si creo el alias de esta forma...

alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/'

... cs  me deja en public_html

Pero quería pasarle un parámetro e intenté agregando $1, pero no me
funciona...

alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/$1'
alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/"$1"'

A esos dos me los acepta, pero le paso el nombre del directorio y
siempre me deja en public_html

Es decir   cs swc   no me ubica en /home/sistemas/public_html/swc/

La cuestión es que no se si estoy haciendo algo mal o si alias no
soporta parámetros.

[...]

hola
los alias no soportan parametros
por lo general para lograr esto te confiene una funcion()
ejemplo

cs() { cd /home/sistemas/public_html/$1; }

si ejecutsa cs te va a mdara a public_html
si ejecutas cs nombre_sistema te va a dejar en ese path si existe el dir

saludos
Matias.-

Finalmente lo solucioné agregando la función al archivo .bash_profile de 
mi home (en realidad lo tuve que crear porque no existía)

El .bash_profile me quedó así...

function cs() {
cd /home/sistemas/public_html/$1/
}

Una vez creado hay que ejecutar...

source .bash_profile

... para que tengan efecto los cambios.

*** FUENTE: 
https://alexconesa.wordpress.com/2015/09/18/como-pasar-parametros-a-un-alias-del-shell/

Muchas gracias a todos y saludos,

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Re: Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-19 Thread Andy Smith

Hello,

On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 10:42:53PM +0100, Flo wrote:
> The mail files for each account are stored at /var/mail. No it has come to
> that point that such a file exceeded 2GB. And 'Get Messages' doesn't work
> anymore.
> 
> Does anyone know about this issue? Any hints to solve it? I could try a
> different pop3 server?

I have no experience with popa3d but if it supports Maildir instead
of mbox format then you could start storing users' mails in Maildir
format. Maildir's one file per message approach usually provides
better performance, though you do end up with a lot of metadata
activity on the filesystem.

Cheers,
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Problem with /var/mail file > 2GB with pop3

2020-11-19 Thread Flo


Hi All,

I am using Debian Buster, Thunderbird, Sendmail and popa3d to get emails.

The mail files for each account are stored at /var/mail. No it has come 
to that point that such a file exceeded 2GB. And 'Get Messages' doesn't 
work anymore.


Does anyone know about this issue? Any hints to solve it? I could try a 
different pop3 server?


Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,
Flo

Re: cups: Empty Basic password

2020-11-19 Thread l0f4r0

Hi,

19 nov. 2020 à 16:20 de m...@bokomoko.de:

> Is there anything wrong with my setup? As I wrote before, I see no functional 
> problem.
>
You have python-cups installed right?
What is its version?

Has the user been added to lpadmin?
See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=667995

There is also another potential solution at 
https://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2055965.html but I'm not sure it's 
recommended...

Best regards,
l0f4r0

Re: Certbot in Buster

2020-11-19 Thread David Wright

On Thu 19 Nov 2020 at 08:34:24 (-0500), Michael Stone wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 09:11:10AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Mi, 18 nov 20, 13:01:46, Michael Stone wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 06:42:27PM +0100, Philipp Ewald wrote:
> > > > can i install the package from unstable and after that i remove the 
> > > > entry in sourses.list?
> > > > or is this risky?
> > > 
> > > I wouldn't do that, just download the appropiate debs from
> > > 
> > > http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/python-certbot/certbot_1.8.0-1_all.deb
> > > http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/python-certbot/python3-certbot_1.8.0-1_all.deb
> > > http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/python-acme/python3-acme_1.8.0-1_all.deb
> > 
> > Agreed.
> > 
> > > run
> > >  sudo dpkg -i *.deb
> > > then
> > >  sudo apt --fix-broken install
> > > to clean up any dangling dependencies
> > 
> > It might work also to just run (with sudo as needed):
> > 
> >apt install ./*.deb
> 
> yes! I thought there was a way to specify a deb but the man page was
> no help and I never use apt for that myself. :) So do it that way and
> the dependencies will be handled in one step.

I think the only mention of this I've seen (apart from debian-user)
is in /usr/share/doc/apt/changelog.gz where there is

  apt (1.3~pre3) unstable; urgency=medium

[…]

[ David Kalnischkies ]
[…]
* support "install ./foo.changes"

[…]

   -- Julian Andres Klode   Thu, 04 Aug 2016 10:23:49 +0200

I have noticed that the sometimes unintended patterns discussed in
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2018/08/msg01077.html
are being eliminated in bullseye, in favour of a formal aptitude-like
syntax. No word AFAICT on install ./foo.deb, ../foo.deb, /foo.deb etc.

As I wrote before, I don't know why they didn't use a commandline
option like   install -f foo.deb   to indicate installing a file
rather than a package.

Cheers,
David.

Re: AMD Ryzen 5 3550H + GPU AMD Radeon Vega 8 (+nVidia)

2020-11-19 Thread Keith Bainbridge

On 20/11/20 1:27 am, Kanito 73 wrote:

Hello

And related to the Vega 8 (integrated in the processor)... I visited
AMD.COM to see details of the driver and I found that it is only
available for Windows 10 (at least on the driver´s link). Does the
kernel have support for GPU Vega 8 (generic drivers) and work fine for
games and graphics software? Do you know about an alternative link or
place where to get the official driver for Linux or it does not exist?

I am worried because don´t want to buy a USD 1200 laptop that will not
work on Linux (Debian 10) due incompatibility or lack of drivers... I
hope you can help me or tell me if it is safe to buy the laptop
because it will work with the official or generic drivers...

https://www.amd.com/en/support/apu/amd-ryzen-processors/amd-ryzen-5-mobile-processors-radeon-vega-graphics/amd-ryzen-5-2

Thanks in advance for your comments and help

A friend has had difficulty getting drivers for the wifi in a cheap HP
laptop - new late last year.

He is also having trouble installing Mint 20 on that same machine, so
maybe there is a deeper problem. We've been meeting on-line most of the
year, so haven't been able to get hands-on help.

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cups: Empty Basic password

2020-11-19 Thread Rainer Dorsch

Hello,

I am running a cups server which works as expected, but I just realized that 
the error log show a tremendous amount of entries:

root@home:~# tail /var/log/cups/error_log 
E [19/Nov/2020:16:14:00 +0100] [Client 49726] Empty Basic password. 
E [19/Nov/2020:16:14:00 +0100] [Client 49729] Empty Basic password. 
E [19/Nov/2020:16:14:00 +0100] [Client 49732] Empty Basic password. 
E [19/Nov/2020:16:14:01 +0100] [Client 49735] Empty Basic password. 
E [19/Nov/2020:16:14:01 +0100] [Client 49738] Empty Basic password. 
E [19/Nov/2020:16:14:01 +0100] [Client 49741] Empty Basic password. 
E [19/Nov/2020:16:14:01 +0100] [Client 49744] Empty Basic password. 
E [19/Nov/2020:16:14:01 +0100] [Client 49747] Empty Basic password. 
E [19/Nov/2020:16:14:02 +0100] [Client 49750] Empty Basic password. 
E [19/Nov/2020:16:14:02 +0100] [Client 49753] Empty Basic password. 
root@home:~# 

Digging further, I realized that cupsd keeps one core of the server busy

 PID USER  PR  NIVIRTRESSHR S  %CPU  %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 


 
28032 root  20   0   82452  14572   5828 R  98.0   0.7  50:14.12 cupsd  


  

The error log entries stops, if I poweroff another Debian system with cups 
running as a client

rd@h370:~$ cat /etc/cups/client.conf 
ServerName 192.168.7.1
rd@h370:~$ 

On the client side, I do not see corresponding log entries:

rd@h370:~$ cat /var/log/cups/error_log
E [19/Nov/2020:07:43:29 +0100] Missing value on line 1561 of /var/cache/cups/
job.cache.
E [19/Nov/2020:07:43:29 +0100] Missing value on line 1612 of /var/cache/cups/
job.cache.
E [19/Nov/2020:07:43:29 +0100] Missing value on line 2542 of /var/cache/cups/
job.cache.
E [19/Nov/2020:07:43:29 +0100] Missing value on line 5366 of /var/cache/cups/
job.cache.
E [19/Nov/2020:07:43:29 +0100] Missing value on line 5379 of /var/cache/cups/
job.cache.
E [19/Nov/2020:07:43:29 +0100] Missing value on line 5392 of /var/cache/cups/
job.cache.
E [19/Nov/2020:07:43:29 +0100] Missing value on line 6235 of /var/cache/cups/
job.cache.
E [19/Nov/2020:07:43:29 +0100] Missing value on line 6261 of /var/cache/cups/
job.cache.
E [19/Nov/2020:07:43:29 +0100] Missing value on line 6274 of /var/cache/cups/
job.cache.
E [19/Nov/2020:07:51:45 +0100] [Client 3] Returning IPP client-error-bad-
request for Create-Printer-Subscriptions (/) from localhost.
E [19/Nov/2020:11:59:23 +0100] [Client 5] Returning IPP client-error-bad-
request for Create-Printer-Subscriptions (/) from localhost.
E [19/Nov/2020:14:33:28 +0100] [Client 6] Returning IPP client-error-bad-
request for Create-Printer-Subscriptions (/) from localhost.
E [19/Nov/2020:15:52:09 +0100] [Client 16] Returning IPP client-error-bad-
request for Create-Printer-Subscriptions (/) from localhost.
rd@h370:~$ 

Is there anything wrong with my setup? As I wrote before, I see no functional 
problem.

Any advice or hint is welcome.

Thanks
Rainer


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Re: alias permite pasar un parámetro ?

2020-11-19 Thread Walter Omar Dari


El 19/11/20 a las 16:00, Zeque escribió:

Si con alias no te deja hacelo con una función
cs() {
cd /home/sistemas/public_html/${1}
}
cs lala

Saludos,



Muchas gracias, saludos !




Zeque

On November 19, 2020 3:45:55 PM GMT-03:00, Fran Blanco 
 wrote:


En donde has definido $1?

On Thu, Nov 19, 2020, 19:42 Walter Omar Dari mailto:wlin...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hola gente:

Intentando agilizar algunas tareas, intentaba hacer un alias que me
ubique en el directorio de trabajo de un sistema en particular.

Los fuentes de los sistemas los tengo ubicados en
/home/sistemas/public_html/nombre_sistema/

La idea era crear el alias cs para pasarle como parámetro el
"nombre_sistema" y que me ubique en el directorio deseado.

Si creo el alias de esta forma...

alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/'

... cs  me deja en public_html


Pero quería pasarle un parámetro e intenté agregando $1, pero no me
funciona...

alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/$1'
alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/"$1"'

A esos dos me los acepta, pero le paso el nombre del directorio y
siempre me deja en public_html

Es decir   cs swc   no me ubica en /home/sistemas/public_html/swc/

La cuestión es que no se si estoy haciendo algo mal o si alias no
soporta parámetros.

Les agradecerá cualquier información al respecto.


Saludos,

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Re: alias permite pasar un parámetro ?

2020-11-19 Thread Carlos Gustavo Nuñez



Buenas tardes, me parece que lo que queres hacer es mas facil de lo que se ve.

un alias reemplaza totalmente al alias con su valor y recibe solo los 
parametros que le pasas

Ej:

alias listar='ls'

Ahora puedo usar:

# listar -ltr

Y pasara el parametro.
Espero te sirva.
Saludos.

*Carlos Gustavo Nuñez*

El 19/11/20 a las 15:51, Matias Mucciolo escribió:


- Original Message -

From: "Walter Omar Dari" 
To: "debian-user-spanish" 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 3:41:52 PM
Subject: alias permite pasar un parámetro ?
Hola gente:

Intentando agilizar algunas tareas, intentaba hacer un alias que me
ubique en el directorio de trabajo de un sistema en particular.

Los fuentes de los sistemas los tengo ubicados en
/home/sistemas/public_html/nombre_sistema/

La idea era crear el alias cs para pasarle como parámetro el
"nombre_sistema" y que me ubique en el directorio deseado.

Si creo el alias de esta forma...

alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/'

... cs  me deja en public_html


Pero quería pasarle un parámetro e intenté agregando $1, pero no me
funciona...

alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/$1'
alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/"$1"'

A esos dos me los acepta, pero le paso el nombre del directorio y
siempre me deja en public_html

Es decir   cs swc   no me ubica en /home/sistemas/public_html/swc/

La cuestión es que no se si estoy haciendo algo mal o si alias no
soporta parámetros.

Les agradecerá cualquier información al respecto.


Saludos,

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hola
los alias no soportan parametros
por lo general para lograr esto te confiene una funcion()
ejemplo

cs() { cd /home/sistemas/public_html/$1; }

si ejecutsa cs te va a mdara a public_html
si ejecutas cs nombre_sistema te va a dejar en ese path si existe el dir

saludos
Matias.-

Re: (deb-cat) Intervencio externa sobre actualitzacions del Firefox

2020-11-19 Thread Narcis Garcia

Hi ha una cosa que he vist en el TorBrowser i potser ho hagin adoptat
els de Mozilla:
T'instal·les el paquet de programari amb permisos del sistema, i el
llançador de l'aplicació comprova:
1. Si tens una descàrrega al perfil d'usuari, executa l'aplicació que hi ha.
2. Altrament, executa l'aplicació del paquet (instal·lada al sistema)

Amb això, l'aplicació del paquet serveix de «llançadora»
d'instal·lacions i actualitzacions al perfil d'usuari, sense que els
permisos del superusuari (root) hi intervinguin.
Així, pot haver un Firefox 78.0.0 instal·lat de paquet (via APT) i
l'executable /usr/bin/firefox en realitat t'està llançant un Firefox
78.0.5 que tens descarregat a ~/.mozilla/ o similar.

Una altra cosa més estranya és que estiguéssin oberts a tots els usuaris
els permisos de modificació d'alguna ruta de sistema com:
/usr/lib/firefox-esr
/usr/share/firefox-esr
/usr/lib/mozilla
/usr/lib/firefox-esr
...?


El 19/11/20 a les 10:59, Joan ha escrit:
> Jo diria que és impossible que el Firefox d'una debian s'actualitzi
> sense que ho autoritzi un administrador, no? 
> 
> Hauria de modificar fitxers pels que els usuaris normals no tenen dret
> a modificar...
> 

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Re: alias permite pasar un parámetro ?

2020-11-19 Thread Walter Omar Dari

Hola Matias...

El 19/11/20 a las 15:51, Matias Mucciolo escribió:

- Original Message -

From: "Walter Omar Dari" 
To: "debian-user-spanish" 
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 3:41:52 PM
Subject: alias permite pasar un parámetro ?

Hola gente:

Intentando agilizar algunas tareas, intentaba hacer un alias que me
ubique en el directorio de trabajo de un sistema en particular.

Los fuentes de los sistemas los tengo ubicados en
/home/sistemas/public_html/nombre_sistema/

La idea era crear el alias cs para pasarle como parámetro el
"nombre_sistema" y que me ubique en el directorio deseado.

Si creo el alias de esta forma...

alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/'

... cs  me deja en public_html

Pero quería pasarle un parámetro e intenté agregando $1, pero no me
funciona...

alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/$1'
alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/"$1"'

A esos dos me los acepta, pero le paso el nombre del directorio y
siempre me deja en public_html

Es decir   cs swc   no me ubica en /home/sistemas/public_html/swc/

La cuestión es que no se si estoy haciendo algo mal o si alias no
soporta parámetros.

[...]

hola
los alias no soportan parametros

Eso quería confirmar.

por lo general para lograr esto te confiene una funcion()
ejemplo

cs() { cd /home/sistemas/public_html/$1; }

si ejecutsa cs te va a mdara a public_html
si ejecutas cs nombre_sistema te va a dejar en ese path si existe el dir

Muchas gracias !

saludos
Matias.-

Saludos,

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Re: AMD Ryzen 5 3550H + GPU AMD Radeon Vega 8 (+nVidia)

2020-11-19 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev

On 19.11.2020 19:27, Kanito 73 wrote:

Hello

I am about to buy a laptop (HP) that comes with the processor AMD
Ryzen 5 3550H (link below) and the GPU AMD Radeon Vega 8 is
integrated. In the description table of the laptop it shows the Vega 8
graphics, but just below it also shows the nVidia GeForce GTX 1050
graphics and I am a bit confused... Does it have both GPUs? Radeon
integrated on the Ryzen processor and nVidia on the motherboard?
Searching information at Google I found a post in a forum describing
that laptops with Ryzen processors have both GPUs and you can switch
them but it is a bit "tricky"...
It sure is tricky. In case of laptops with Intel CPU integrated graphics
and discrete Nvidia graphics to use both graphics cards you have to
switch between them. On Windows it is done by drivers and power
management subsystem. On Linux you have to use "Bumblebee" and
"bbswitch" to essentially use discrete graphics adapter computing power
and display results on integrated graphics adapter. [1] [2]
As you can see in Bumblebee Wiki and FAQ sections, there are many
caveats and while in practice this technology works (it worked for me
well enough), its performance is less than optimal and it currently
lacking in features.
I have no experience with AMD CPU+Nvidia GPU hybrids on Linux, but
reading through issues and milestones sections of Project Bumblebee
would discourage me from buying a laptop with described hardware
configuration.
If you plan to use Linux, I'd recommend you to seek alternative laptop
configuration with single graphics adapter, without CPU integrated
graphics or with option to permanently switch to discrete graphics (for
example by disabling CPU integrated graphics in BIOS).

By the way, at first I am more concerned about the drivers. I´ve read
that latest nVidia drivers do not work with the latest linux kernels
and it is required to downgrade to a previous kernel so you can
install the official nVidia´s driver. Is it real or currently I can
install the most fresh AMD.COM driver with no problems? Do the kernel
support "nVidia GeForce GTX 1050 graphics" with generic drivers and it
will work fine for games or graphics software (design, video, etc)?
You can install Nvidia drivers just fine on current Debian stable
kernel. Driver versions currently supported on Linux are listed here. [3]
I've installed version 450.80.02 from "buster-backports" on my PC with
GTX1060 and it works without any issues.

https://www.amd.com/en/support/apu/amd-ryzen-processors/amd-ryzen-5-mobile-processors-radeon-vega-graphics/amd-ryzen-5-2

Thanks in advance for your comments and help

[1] https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki
[2] https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee
[3]
https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/current-graphics-driver-releases/28500

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Re: alias permite pasar un parámetro ?

2020-11-19 Thread Zeque

Si con alias no te deja hacelo con una función
cs() {
cd /home/sistemas/public_html/${1}
}
cs lala

Saludos,

Zeque

On November 19, 2020 3:45:55 PM GMT-03:00, Fran Blanco 
 wrote:
>En donde has definido $1?
>
>On Thu, Nov 19, 2020, 19:42 Walter Omar Dari  wrote:
>
>> Hola gente:
>>
>> Intentando agilizar algunas tareas, intentaba hacer un alias que me
>> ubique en el directorio de trabajo de un sistema en particular.
>>
>> Los fuentes de los sistemas los tengo ubicados en
>> /home/sistemas/public_html/nombre_sistema/
>>
>> La idea era crear el alias cs para pasarle como parámetro el
>> "nombre_sistema" y que me ubique en el directorio deseado.
>>
>> Si creo el alias de esta forma...
>>
>> alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/'
>>
>> ... cs  me deja en public_html
>>
>>
>> Pero quería pasarle un parámetro e intenté agregando $1, pero no me
>> funciona...
>>
>> alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/$1'
>> alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/"$1"'
>>
>> A esos dos me los acepta, pero le paso el nombre del directorio y
>> siempre me deja en public_html
>>
>> Es decir   cs swc   no me ubica en /home/sistemas/public_html/swc/
>>
>> La cuestión es que no se si estoy haciendo algo mal o si alias no
>> soporta parámetros.
>>
>> Les agradecerá cualquier información al respecto.
>>
>>
>> Saludos,
>>
>> --
>>
>> Walter O. Dari
>>
>> http://swcomputacion.com/
>> http://swcomputacion.com/sistemas/
>> https://facebook.com/swcomputacion/
>> https://facebook.com/sistemasSW/
>>
>> Nuestros horarios:
>> L a V 9 a 12 hs. - 16 a 19 hs.
>> S 11 a 14 hs.
>>
>> WhatsApp:
>> 2396 577140 (no se atienden llamadas)
>>
>>

Re: alias permite pasar un parámetro ?

2020-11-19 Thread Matias Mucciolo



- Original Message -
> From: "Walter Omar Dari" 
> To: "debian-user-spanish" 
> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 3:41:52 PM
> Subject: alias permite pasar un parámetro ?

> Hola gente:
> 
> Intentando agilizar algunas tareas, intentaba hacer un alias que me
> ubique en el directorio de trabajo de un sistema en particular.
> 
> Los fuentes de los sistemas los tengo ubicados en
> /home/sistemas/public_html/nombre_sistema/
> 
> La idea era crear el alias cs para pasarle como parámetro el
> "nombre_sistema" y que me ubique en el directorio deseado.
> 
> Si creo el alias de esta forma...
> 
> alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/'
> 
> ... cs  me deja en public_html
> 
> 
> Pero quería pasarle un parámetro e intenté agregando $1, pero no me
> funciona...
> 
> alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/$1'
> alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/"$1"'
> 
> A esos dos me los acepta, pero le paso el nombre del directorio y
> siempre me deja en public_html
> 
> Es decir   cs swc   no me ubica en /home/sistemas/public_html/swc/
> 
> La cuestión es que no se si estoy haciendo algo mal o si alias no
> soporta parámetros.
> 
> Les agradecerá cualquier información al respecto.
> 
> 
> Saludos,
> 
> --
> 
> Walter O. Dari
> 
> http://swcomputacion.com/
> http://swcomputacion.com/sistemas/
> https://facebook.com/swcomputacion/
> https://facebook.com/sistemasSW/
> 
> Nuestros horarios:
> L a V 9 a 12 hs. - 16 a 19 hs.
> S 11 a 14 hs.
> 
> WhatsApp:
> 2396 577140 (no se atienden llamadas)

hola
los alias no soportan parametros
por lo general para lograr esto te confiene una funcion()
ejemplo

cs() { cd /home/sistemas/public_html/$1; }

si ejecutsa cs te va a mdara a public_html
si ejecutas cs nombre_sistema te va a dejar en ese path si existe el dir

saludos
Matias.-

Re: alias permite pasar un parámetro ?

2020-11-19 Thread Fran Blanco

En donde has definido $1?

On Thu, Nov 19, 2020, 19:42 Walter Omar Dari  wrote:

> Hola gente:
>
> Intentando agilizar algunas tareas, intentaba hacer un alias que me
> ubique en el directorio de trabajo de un sistema en particular.
>
> Los fuentes de los sistemas los tengo ubicados en
> /home/sistemas/public_html/nombre_sistema/
>
> La idea era crear el alias cs para pasarle como parámetro el
> "nombre_sistema" y que me ubique en el directorio deseado.
>
> Si creo el alias de esta forma...
>
> alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/'
>
> ... cs  me deja en public_html
>
>
> Pero quería pasarle un parámetro e intenté agregando $1, pero no me
> funciona...
>
> alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/$1'
> alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/"$1"'
>
> A esos dos me los acepta, pero le paso el nombre del directorio y
> siempre me deja en public_html
>
> Es decir   cs swc   no me ubica en /home/sistemas/public_html/swc/
>
> La cuestión es que no se si estoy haciendo algo mal o si alias no
> soporta parámetros.
>
> Les agradecerá cualquier información al respecto.
>
>
> Saludos,
>
> --
>
> Walter O. Dari
>
> http://swcomputacion.com/
> http://swcomputacion.com/sistemas/
> https://facebook.com/swcomputacion/
> https://facebook.com/sistemasSW/
>
> Nuestros horarios:
> L a V 9 a 12 hs. - 16 a 19 hs.
> S 11 a 14 hs.
>
> WhatsApp:
> 2396 577140 (no se atienden llamadas)
>
>

alias permite pasar un parámetro ?

2020-11-19 Thread Walter Omar Dari


Hola gente:

Intentando agilizar algunas tareas, intentaba hacer un alias que me 
ubique en el directorio de trabajo de un sistema en particular.


Los fuentes de los sistemas los tengo ubicados en 
/home/sistemas/public_html/nombre_sistema/


La idea era crear el alias cs para pasarle como parámetro el 
"nombre_sistema" y que me ubique en el directorio deseado.


Si creo el alias de esta forma...

alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/'

... cs  me deja en public_html


Pero quería pasarle un parámetro e intenté agregando $1, pero no me 
funciona...


alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/$1'
alias cs='cd /home/sistemas/public_html/"$1"'

A esos dos me los acepta, pero le paso el nombre del directorio y 
siempre me deja en public_html


Es decir   cs swc   no me ubica en /home/sistemas/public_html/swc/

La cuestión es que no se si estoy haciendo algo mal o si alias no 
soporta parámetros.


Les agradecerá cualquier información al respecto.


Saludos,

--

Walter O. Dari

http://swcomputacion.com/
http://swcomputacion.com/sistemas/
https://facebook.com/swcomputacion/
https://facebook.com/sistemasSW/

Nuestros horarios:
L a V 9 a 12 hs. - 16 a 19 hs.
S 11 a 14 hs.

WhatsApp:
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Re: Conseils pour le développement sur Debian d'applications natives Windows/Linux

2020-11-19 Thread Basile Starynkevitch



On 11/19/20 4:56 PM, Basile Starynkevitch wrote:



On 11/19/20 4:11 PM, Olivier wrote:

Bonjour,

Je serai très curieux de recueillir ici des retours d'expérience sur 
le développement sous Debian (Buster) d'applications natives 
Windows/Linux.



Nota Bene:*je n'ai jamais de ma vie utilisé Windows!* (Mais Linux 
depuis 1993, et Unix depuis 1985)



Ça doit être faisable, mais *ça peut prendre des semaines de travail*, 
et il n'est pas certain que l'exécutable ainsi produit soit légalement 
diffusable. Je suggère une approche WSL et la *consultation d'un 
avocat spécialiste en licences logicielles*.



Des pistes possibles seraient


Lire avec attention http://www.fr.linuxfromscratch.org/

Compiler GNU binutils depuis son code source depuis 
https://www.gnu.org/software/binutils/


Compiler GCC depuis son code source sur http://gcc.gnu.org/

Utiliser une bibliothèque serveur HTTP telle que 
https://coralbits.com/static/onion/


Il se trouve que j'ai contribué aussi bien à GCC qu'à libonion.





J'ai oublié de préciser que GCC et binutils sont compilables puis 
utilisables comme compilateur croisé (/cross-compiler/).



Le dévelopement d'application Windows sous Debian est possible.


Une alternative est bien sûr de livrer un fichier bytecode compilé avec 
Ocaml. Voir http://ocaml.org/ pour les détails. Les fichiers bytecode 
Ocaml sont portables entre Windows et Linux, moyennant un certain nombre 
de précautions.


(Il se trouve que j'ai marginalement contribué à Ocaml)

Librement

--
Basile Starynkevitch  
(only mine opinions / les opinions sont miennes uniquement)
92340 Bourg-la-Reine, France
web page: starynkevitch.net/Basile/

Re: Conseils pour le développement sur Debian d'applications natives Windows/Linux

2020-11-19 Thread Basile Starynkevitch



On 11/19/20 4:11 PM, Olivier wrote:

Bonjour,

Je serai très curieux de recueillir ici des retours d'expérience sur 
le développement sous Debian (Buster) d'applications natives 
Windows/Linux.



Nota Bene:*je n'ai jamais de ma vie utilisé Windows!* (Mais Linux depuis 
1993, et Unix depuis 1985)



Ça doit être faisable, mais *ça peut prendre des semaines de travail*, 
et il n'est pas certain que l'exécutable ainsi produit soit légalement 
diffusable. Je suggère une approche WSL et la *consultation d'un avocat 
spécialiste en licences logicielles*.



Des pistes possibles seraient


Lire avec attention http://www.fr.linuxfromscratch.org/

Compiler GNU binutils depuis son code source depuis 
https://www.gnu.org/software/binutils/


Compiler GCC depuis son code source sur http://gcc.gnu.org/

Utiliser une bibliothèque serveur HTTP telle que 
https://coralbits.com/static/onion/


Il se trouve que j'ai contribué aussi bien à GCC qu'à libonion.



La question centrale, c'est combien de temps êtes vous prêt à dépenser, 
et pourquoi (et pour vous, qui vous paie ce temps de travail, qui se 
compte en semaines).



Il est possible que l'acquisition d'une licence Windows soit moins 
onéreuse que tout le travail à faire pour l'éviter.



Cordialement


--
Basile Starynkevitch  
(only mine opinions / les opinions sont miennes uniquement)
92340 Bourg-la-Reine, France
web page: starynkevitch.net/Basile/

Re: AMD Ryzen 5 3550H + GPU AMD Radeon Vega 8 (+nVidia)

2020-11-19 Thread Celejar

On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 10:07:58 -0500
Dan Ritter  wrote:

...

> Ryzen 3 3550H will work quite nicely in Debian Stable; the
> integrated Radeon GPU is well-supported. You will want to
> install 
> 
> xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
> and
> firmware-amd-graphics

...

Just to be clear, in case anyone cares: the firmware package is in
non-free. (I do use it on one of my systems.)

> Debian has drivers. AMD produces a supported open-source
> version, which Debian uses, and a supported proprietary version,
> which you can install yourself, though I don't recommend it.

Celejar

Re: Corruption of Samba mount points

2020-11-19 Thread Joe

On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 08:40:35 -0500
songbird  wrote:

> Joe wrote:
> ...
> > No other replies, so I assume this is another of My Personal Bugs.
> > I've reported a few bugs over the years that have turned out to be
> > visible only to me. I don't suppose there are any two identical
> > installations of sid anywhere in the world.
> >
> > Maybe this is a hint that it's time to reinstall, this installation
> > is probably at least ten years old, and there have been about nine
> > packages that can't be upgraded for a couple of months now. But
> > that's going to be the best part of a day that I can't really
> > spare...  
> 
>   if the hardware is that old it may be having issues or a
> cable connection is loose or something else.  that is what
> can be tough about such a failure.  adding unstable to that
> well, as they say, sometimes you get to keep all the parts
> of what is broken.  :)

I didn't say the hardware was ten years old, just the Debian
installation. You can often just move a hard drive to a new motherboard
[of the same architecture] and have it boot fairly well, with just a few
bits of messing about to restore full functionality. 

Hardware failures will normally cause unpredictable software failures,
I've seen the same problem three times now. It's some form of software
rot.
> 
>   i only run a few bits of unstable (firefox and a few 
> other very isolated leaf packages) and always have another
> partition on another device that will boot stable and also
> yet another stable setup on a USB stick, besides the 
> netinst image on a USB stick that will boot a rescue 
> prompt if needed.  so far i haven't had to use them often
> but when i've had to check something out or compare what
> was going on in stable compared to testing it was a welcome
> help.

I have two buster installations on netbooks and another on a laptop,
with a spare desktop currently containing my final jessie server before
the upgrade to a new stretch hard drive which now runs my HP
Microserver. I'm not short of spare computers. I even have a new
Raspberry Pi 4 which will become one of the new servers to replace the
Microserver in due course.
> 
>   good luck!  :)

Thank you.

-- 
Joe

Conseils pour le développement sur Debian d'applications natives Windows/Linux

2020-11-19 Thread Olivier

Bonjour,

Je serai très curieux de recueillir ici des retours d'expérience sur le
développement sous Debian (Buster) d'applications natives Windows/Linux.

1. Par application native, j'entends une application graphique avec
quelques champs de saisie et quelques boutons.
L'homogénéité du style de l'application avec les autres n'a pas
d'importance pour mon cas.
Le fait de coder avec des technos Web (HTML, JS, CSS) ou classiques n'est
pas important non plus.
Si j'ai la possibilité, j'apprécierai de coder en Python.

2. Un point très important pour moi est, par contre, si c'est possible de
pouvoir empaqueter depuis Linux/Debian l'application Windows et son
installateur sans utiliser Windows.
(Plusieurs outils comme Kivy annonce la possibilité de développer pour
plusieurs plateformes, mais si j'ai bien compris, il faut empaqueter sur la
même plateforme que la cible).

A. Qu'en pensez-vous ? Avez-vous déjà expérimenté une telle chose ?
B. En surfant, j'ai lu que le langage Go (cf [1] annonce la possibilité
d'empaqueter sur Linux pour Windows. Qu'en penser ?
C. J'ai lu des infos sur Flutter/Dart ou Qt mais rien de précis sur
l'empaquetage.

[1] https://golangr.com/gui/

Slts

Re: AMD Ryzen 5 3550H + GPU AMD Radeon Vega 8 (+nVidia)

2020-11-19 Thread Dan Ritter

Kanito 73 wrote: 
> I am about to buy a laptop (HP) that comes with the processor AMD Ryzen 5 
> 3550H (link below) and the GPU AMD Radeon Vega 8 is integrated. In the 
> description table of the laptop it shows the Vega 8 graphics, but just below 
> it also shows the nVidia GeForce GTX 1050 graphics and I am a bit confused... 
> Does it have both GPUs? Radeon integrated on the Ryzen processor and nVidia 
> on the motherboard? Searching information at Google I found a post in a forum 
> describing that laptops with Ryzen processors have both GPUs and you can 
> switch them but it is a bit "tricky"...

Please link to the HP page, not the processor page.

Ryzen 3 3550H will work quite nicely in Debian Stable; the
integrated Radeon GPU is well-supported. You will want to
install 

xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
and
firmware-amd-graphics

> By the way, at first I am more concerned about the drivers. I?ve read that 
> latest nVidia drivers do not work with the latest linux kernels and it is 
> required to downgrade to a previous kernel so you can install the official 
> nVidia?s driver. Is it real or currently I can install the most fresh AMD.COM 
> driver with no problems? Do the kernel support "nVidia GeForce GTX 1050 
> graphics" with generic drivers and it will work fine for games or graphics 
> software (design, video, etc)?


AMD and NVidia are different companies, and their drivers are
different. Geting them to play together at the same time is
difficult.


> And related to the Vega 8 (integrated in the processor)... I visited AMD.COM 
> to see details of the driver and I found that it is only available for 
> Windows 10 (at least on the driver?s link). Does the kernel have support for 
> GPU Vega 8 (generic drivers) and work fine for games and graphics software? 
> Do you know about an alternative link or place where to get the official 
> driver for Linux or it does not exist?

Debian has drivers. AMD produces a supported open-source
version, which Debian uses, and a supported proprietary version,
which you can install yourself, though I don't recommend it.


> I am worried because don?t want to buy a USD 1200 laptop that will not work 
> on Linux (Debian 10) due incompatibility or lack of drivers... I hope you can 
> help me or tell me if it is safe to buy the laptop because it will work with 
> the official or generic drivers...

$1200 is quite a lot for a last-generation laptop. I'm pretty
sure HP and Lenovo both have less costly, more performance AMD
laptops.

-dsr-

AMD Ryzen 5 3550H + GPU AMD Radeon Vega 8 (+nVidia)

2020-11-19 Thread Kanito 73

Hello

And related to the Vega 8 (integrated in the processor)... I visited AMD.COM to
see details of the driver and I found that it is only available for Windows 10
(at least on the driver´s link). Does the kernel have support for GPU Vega 8
(generic drivers) and work fine for games and graphics software? Do you know
about an alternative link or place where to get the official driver for Linux
or it does not exist?

I am worried because don´t want to buy a USD 1200 laptop that will not work on
Linux (Debian 10) due incompatibility or lack of drivers... I hope you can help
me or tell me if it is safe to buy the laptop because it will work with the
official or generic drivers...

https://www.amd.com/en/support/apu/amd-ryzen-processors/amd-ryzen-5-mobile-processors-radeon-vega-graphics/amd-ryzen-5-2

Thanks in advance for your comments and help

MiniDebConf Online Brasil 28 e 29/11: chamada de voluntários

2020-11-19 Thread Giovani Ferreira

Olá pessoal, 

A MiniDebConf Online Brasil 2020 está chegando (28 e 29/11) e como em todos os
eventos DebConf, a equipe de vídeo precisará de voluntários para ajudar nas 
tarefas de vídeo durante a conferência.

Cada palestra requer dois voluntários em vídeo: 
* um apresentador (para anunciar as palestras e gerenciar as perguntas enviadas)
* um diretor (mixer de vídeo)

Realizaremos uma sessão de treinamento por Jitsi[1] para os voluntários na 
próxima quarta-feira, 25 de novembro, a partir das 20:30.

Por favor, registre-se[2] se você planeja participar de uma sessão de
treinamento.

Se você já participou de uma sessão de treinamento para DebConf20 você não
precisa comparecer a um novo, embora recomendamos que faça.

Ajudar a equipe de vídeo pode ser uma ótima maneira de contribuir para a
conferência e ouvir as palestras ao mesmo tempo. 

Venha se juntar a nós.

[1] https://jitsi.debian.social/mdcobrVideo
[2] https://pad.riseup.net/p/mdcobrVideo

-- 
Giovani Ferreira
0x78494EF72375A66C

Re: Corruption of Samba mount points

2020-11-19 Thread songbird

Joe wrote:
...
> No other replies, so I assume this is another of My Personal Bugs. I've
> reported a few bugs over the years that have turned out to be visible
> only to me. I don't suppose there are any two identical installations
> of sid anywhere in the world.
>
> Maybe this is a hint that it's time to reinstall, this installation is
> probably at least ten years old, and there have been about nine
> packages that can't be upgraded for a couple of months now. But that's
> going to be the best part of a day that I can't really spare...

  if the hardware is that old it may be having issues or a
cable connection is loose or something else.  that is what
can be tough about such a failure.  adding unstable to that
well, as they say, sometimes you get to keep all the parts
of what is broken.  :)

  i only run a few bits of unstable (firefox and a few 
other very isolated leaf packages) and always have another
partition on another device that will boot stable and also
yet another stable setup on a USB stick, besides the 
netinst image on a USB stick that will boot a rescue 
prompt if needed.  so far i haven't had to use them often
but when i've had to check something out or compare what
was going on in stable compared to testing it was a welcome
help.

  good luck!  :)

  songbird

Re: (deb-cat) Intervencio externa sobre actualitzacions del Firefox

2020-11-19 Thread Narcis Garcia

Veig que a les preferències hi ha una secció dins de «General»:
Actualitzacions del Firefox
Tot i el què es troba altra gent:
https://www.technipages.com/enable-disable-automatic-updates-in-firefox
Sembla que al ESR de Debian no hi ha possibilitat de què l'usuari
inexpert toqui això (només s'hi veu un argumentari a favor).

Aquí veig el paràmetre avançat per a controlar aquest comportament (jo
quasi en diria deslleial):
http://kb.mozillazine.org/App.update.auto



Narcis Garcia

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El 19/11/20 a les 9:08, Jordi ha escrit:
> 
> En el meu cas, el firefox mira si hi ha actualitzacions però només
> avisa sense instalar-les. Fàcil de fer a les opcions.
> A about:config he vist que hi ha browser.search.update true (false).
> Es veritat que faig servir una altra versió de firefox, però pot ser et
> serveixi.
> Salutacions
> Jordi 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> El dj. 19 de 11 de 2020 a les 08:51 +0100, en/na Narcis Garcia va
> escriure:
>> De tant en tant (i parlo de menys d'una vegada per setmana), en
>> intentar
>> navegar amb una nova solapa aquesta versió 78.x em diu:
>> «El Firefox s'ha actualitzat en segon pla. Feu clic a «Reinicia el
>> Firefox» per completar l'actualització.»
>>
>> Algú sap com IMPEDIR que el Firefox s'actualitzi sense demanar-ho?
>>
>> Gràcies.
>>
>

Re: Certbot in Buster

2020-11-19 Thread Michael Stone


On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 09:11:10AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Mi, 18 nov 20, 13:01:46, Michael Stone wrote:

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 06:42:27PM +0100, Philipp Ewald wrote:
> can i install the package from unstable and after that i remove the entry in 
sourses.list?
> or is this risky?

I wouldn't do that, just download the appropiate debs from

http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/python-certbot/certbot_1.8.0-1_all.deb
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/python-certbot/python3-certbot_1.8.0-1_all.deb
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/python-acme/python3-acme_1.8.0-1_all.deb


Agreed.


run
 sudo dpkg -i *.deb
then
 sudo apt --fix-broken install
to clean up any dangling dependencies


It might work also to just run (with sudo as needed):

   apt install ./*.deb


yes! I thought there was a way to specify a deb but the man page was no 
help and I never use apt for that myself. :) So do it that way and the 
dependencies will be handled in one step.

Re: Adaptador de so d'alta fidelitat?

2020-11-19 Thread Carles Pina i Estany



Hola,

On Nov/18/2020, Narcis Garcia wrote:
> Bones, en un ordinador amb GNU/Linux se'm demana que resolgui un
> problema: Se senten «paràsits» de fons quan s'amplifica molt el so,
> incloent els sorollets de l'electrònica de la placa quan treballa.

No hi entenc però justament avui he llegit:
http://mailman.linux-thinkpad.org/pipermail/linux-thinkpad/2020-November/053296.html

Per si et serveix...

-- 
Carles Pina i Estany
https://carles.pina.cat

(deb-cat) Intervencio externa sobre actualitzacions del Firefox

2020-11-19 Thread Narcis Garcia

De tant en tant (i parlo de menys d'una vegada per setmana), en intentar
navegar amb una nova solapa aquesta versió 78.x em diu:
«El Firefox s'ha actualitzat en segon pla. Feu clic a «Reinicia el
Firefox» per completar l'actualització.»

Algú sap com IMPEDIR que el Firefox s'actualitzi sense demanar-ho?

Gràcies.

-- 

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Re: (deb-cat) Intervencio externa sobre actualitzacions del Firefox

2020-11-19 Thread Ernest Adrogué

2020-11-19, 10:59 (+0100); Joan escriu:
> Jo diria que és impossible que el Firefox d'una debian s'actualitzi
> sense que ho autoritzi un administrador, no? 
> 
> Hauria de modificar fitxers pels que els usuaris normals no tenen dret
> a modificar...

Exacte, és impossible que s'actualitzi sol.

Re: Corruption of Samba mount points

2020-11-19 Thread Joe

On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 19:26:59 -0600
David Wright  wrote:

> On Wed 18 Nov 2020 at 21:41:30 (+), Joe wrote:
> > It began with booting this morning. No wallpaper. No network shares
> > mounted (they are set to automount using systemd, but if I tried
> > accessing most of them, the error message contained the path of the
> > mount point followed by 'no such device'.
> > 
> > The mount points looked OK in a GUI file manager and also with mc.
> > Doing an ls-l of the parent directory showed a few mount points as
> > normal, the others showed the name and the 'd' of the permissions
> > string, but everything else was '?' marks.
> > 
> > Eventually tried umounting the affected points, and all was well
> > after that.
> > 
> > The same thing happened at the next boot of the day, it wasn't an
> > ephemeral glitch, though the mount points affected weren't exactly
> > the same ones.
> > 
> > I assume one of the upgrades to sid last night was responsible for
> > this, other computers have no problem seeing the same shares. Anyone
> > else seeing it, Google doesn't seem to find anything?  
> 
> I don't know if it helps to know that you need x permission to see any
> more in a directory than, eg:
> 
> total 0
> d? ? ? ? ?? DCIM
> d? ? ? ? ?? MISC
> -? ? ? ? ?? README
>
Thanks, no, I didn't know that, never encountered it before.

That simplifies things a bit: so some of these mounts are being
deliberately made by root during boot. They are all automount, so
should never mount until a file is called for, and they are all data so
there is no possible reason for them to be needed during boot. Finally,
it worked for years until yesterday morning. Same again today, so last
night's upgrades didn't fix it.

No other replies, so I assume this is another of My Personal Bugs. I've
reported a few bugs over the years that have turned out to be visible
only to me. I don't suppose there are any two identical installations
of sid anywhere in the world.

Maybe this is a hint that it's time to reinstall, this installation is
probably at least ten years old, and there have been about nine
packages that can't be upgraded for a couple of months now. But that's
going to be the best part of a day that I can't really spare...

-- 
Joe

Re: Installation des page en français pour "man" en Buster

2020-11-19 Thread thierry_j


Hello

j'avais déjà posé la question il y a qq mois:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french/2020/04/msg00447.html

On en parle ausssi ici:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-news/2020/msg3.html


Le 17/11/2020 à 20:25, didier gaumet a écrit :

Le mardi 17 novembre 2020 à 16:20:03 UTC+1, bubu a écrit :
[...]

Si je veux avoir mon "man" en français sur Buster

Les paquets "manpages-fr-extra", "manpages-fr-dev", "manpages-fr" sont
désuets en Buster.

Je pourrais installer ceux de Stretch ou ceux de testing (Bullseys) avec
dpkg?


Je crains que ma réponse ne fasse qu'épaissir le mystère (avant qu'une bonne 
âme ne nous éclaire):

les paquets précités sont effectivement absents des dépôts de Buster alors 
qu'ils sont présents dans les dépôts
des distributions précédentes et suivantes.
Pourtant je suis en Buster (avec un peu de Backports), aucun de ces paquets 
n'est présent sur mon installation et mes pages man sont en français (testé à 
l'instant avec man man et man vim).
Je ne sais pas comment cela se fait, j'ai cherché (sans doute mal) une 
explication dans le journal des modifs Debian et je n'en ai pas trouvé. 
Peut-être une organisation de l'internationalisation des pages man différente 
dans Buster par rapport aux releases précédentes et suivantes?

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