Re: instalar Firefox 85 en debian 10

[Camaleón]

El 2021-02-17 a las 21:46 +0100, miguel angel gonzalez escribió:

> El mié, 17 feb 2021 a las 19:46, Camaleón () escribió:
> 
> > El 2021-02-17 a las 19:07 +0100, miguel angel gonzalez escribió:
> >
> > > Para tener la versión más moderna estable, he instalado a mano Firefox
> > > 85.0.2 y desinstalado Firefox ESR.
> > > Os comento los pasos que he hecho:
> >
> > (...)
> >
> > > El problema que tengo es que por ejemplo el icono que tengo en la barra
> > de
> > > tareas no se comporta como el resto de aplicaciones,
> > > cuando pincho en ella no minimiza, abre otra nueva instancia y además no
> > > veo esta aplicación para seleccionarla como aplicaciones favoritas.
> > > Creo que me falta algún paso. Por cierto, los permisos y propietario del
> > > fichero firefox-stable.desktop, los he puesto iguales que los ficheros
> > que
> > > hay dentro de la ruta, por ejemplo, en /usr/share/applications son de
> > root,
> > > en /home/usr/.local/share/applications, del usuario.
> > >
> > > ¿Se os ocurre qué puede ser? Muchas gracias.
> >
> > Cuando instalas Firefox así (yo también opto por esa solcuión) la
> > integración se pierde pero nada que no se pueda solucionar con ajustes
> > manuales.
> >
> > ¿Qué entorno de escritorio tienes? KDE, Gnome, XFCE...

> Se me pasó decirlo, uso gnome.
> 
> Gracias!

Podrías comparar los datos con los que has definido el archivo «.desktop»
con los de cualquier otra aplicación que tengas instalada y que tenga 
el comportamiento deseado, para ver las diferencias.

O mejor aún, puedes usar como plantilla el paquete de Sid¹ que contiene
el archivo «firefox.desktop» (recorto el contenido para dejar sólo 
inglés y español):

[Desktop Entry]
Name=Firefox
Name[es]=Firefox
Comment=Browse the World Wide Web
Comment[es]=Navegue por la web
GenericName=Web Browser
GenericName[es]=Navegador web
X-GNOME-FullName=Firefox Web Browser
X-GNOME-FullName[es]=Navegador web Firefox
Exec=/usr/lib/firefox/firefox %u
Terminal=false
X-MultipleArgs=false
Type=Application
Icon=firefox
Categories=Network;WebBrowser;
MimeType=text/html;text/xml;application/xhtml+xml;application/xml;application/vnd.mozilla.xul+xml;application/rss+xml;application/rdf+xml;image/gif;image/jpeg;image/png;x-scheme-handler/http;x-scheme-handler/https;
StartupWMClass=Firefox
StartupNotify=true

Y cambia únicamente estas líneas que tenías:

Exec=/opt/firefox/firefox %u
Icon=/opt/firefox/browser/chrome/icons/default/default128.png

Recuerda reiniciar la sesión o refrescar el escritorio para que se 
apliquen los cambios.

¹https://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/firefox/filelist

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón 

Re: Conflicting alternatives

[Richard Hector]

On 18/02/21 5:22 am, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 12:06:37AM +0800, Kevin Shell wrote:

You could stop one and start the other,
there's no resources or port conflict.
I want to just keep both, not run them at the same time.


Again, as stated at the start of this fiasco of a thread, Debian policy
says that all daemons must be started up by default.


It is possible to install both nginx and apache2 at the same time. Both 
presumably try to get port 80? Not sure how that resolves; I don't have 
a machine I want to try it on at the moment.


Richard

Re: package-update-indicator not working with Bullseye Mate

[Peter Ehlert]

Pardon me. after the latest update this morning it is now working again 
as expected


On 2/17/21 2:36 PM, Peter Ehlert wrote:

I use package-update-indicator with the Mate desktop.
It works well on Buster, on several machines that I have and also on 
several I maintain.
I have it set to update every hour, and execute synaptic-pkexec when 
it shows Red or Yellow.


Now, I am testing Bullseye on a couple machines. The tool bar icon no 
longer appears...so it has become worthless.

any others with the same issue?

package-update-indicator not working with Bullseye Mate

[Peter Ehlert]

I use package-update-indicator with the Mate desktop.
It works well on Buster, on several machines that I have and also on 
several I maintain.
I have it set to update every hour, and execute synaptic-pkexec when it 
shows Red or Yellow.


Now, I am testing Bullseye on a couple machines. The tool bar icon no 
longer appears...so it has become worthless.

any others with the same issue?

Re: Conflicting alternatives

[Kevin Shell]

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 02:31:27PM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> 
> Yes, sorry; I was thinking about Stefan's comment about "running
> two different SMTP servers on two different interfaces", which seems
> to be +some+ sort of use case. Might they then be able to deliver
> to the a common MDA?
> 
> > It's probably great for learning about all the MTAs, but the
> > original requester desperately wants to install multiple MTAs
> > on the same machine at the same time.
> 
> And the OP's use case? "For convenience when one evaluating or
> learning between multiple MTAs etc."
> 

It's not specific MTA only I think.

> As I first wrote, why not two machines, each one with a different
> MTA, and then studying their interoperation.
> 
> Or as Greg just put it:
>  →
> ↑ ↓
>  ←

Ok, if we enter the loop again
let's end the discussion thread here.
Good to talk to everyone participated. :-)

-- 
kevin

Re: awstats, how to see in a browser?

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 17 February 2021 13:10:23 Thomas Pircher wrote:

> Gene Heskett wrote:
> >On Wednesday 17 February 2021 03:03:05 Thomas Pircher wrote:
> >> http://localhost/cgi-bin/awstats.pl
> >
> >Connection refused, awstats.pl isn't there.
>
> Ok, from the output of ss it looks like you are running Apache on port
> 443, so you can try https://localhost/cgi-bin/awstats.pl
>
> It looks like Apache is also running on other ports, but I have no
> idea what protocol they are serving.
>
> >> Further, is that config enabled? Does the symbolic link
> >> /etc/apache2/conf-enabled/awstats.conf exist?
> >
> >No.
>
> You probably need to enable this config with
> a2enconf awstats
>
> and then restart Apache.
>
> >odd place.  Soft link it to the above /var/www/cgi-bin?
>
> No, the config file above will tell Apache where to find the binary.
>
> >So obviously apache2 has zero knowledge of awstats, yet awstats was
> >installed here from the stretch repo's?
>
> Have a look in /usr/share/doc/awstats/README.Debian.gz this is
> described there.
>
I'll do that, thanks.

> >In wheezy, all this Just Worked. Running slowly out of hair, but it
> > went grey 20 years back. anyway. :)
>
> It could be worse, they could have fallen out before they had time to
> turn gray.

They are doing that too, darn it. Can't be because they are 86 yo can it? 
Heck at my age I don't even buy green banana's.  But the heart mechanics 
up at WVU/Ruby looked at their work a month back, sent me home with a 
modified script and told me to come back next year for another checkup. 
Must have confidence in their work. ;-)
>
> Thomas

Thanks Thomas.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

[Gary Dale]

On 2021-02-17 04:53, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Ma, 16 feb 21, 16:45:13, Gary Dale wrote:

I hear you, but the issue is that if I revert to a previous version, then I
have to hold it to stop the buggy version from clobbering it every day. And
I have to monitor the Testing version for changes to see when a fix is
potentially available so I can remove the hold.

Not just me but every user who is experiencing the bug also has to do this.

This is what 'aptitude forbid-version' is for.

Kind regards,
Andrei

Thanks. I wasn't aware of that option.

Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

[Gary Dale]

On 2021-02-16 17:02, Philip Wyett wrote:

On Tue, 2021-02-16 at 16:45 -0500, Gary Dale wrote:

On 2021-02-13 03:02, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Vi, 12 feb 21, 17:00:41, Gary Dale wrote:

Which is why I think it would be useful to have way to rollback a
package
when you can't fix it quickly. That way you aren't asking all the
users to
do it themselves and track the bug status individually. When the
maintainers
think they have a fix, it can go through the normal process...

Debian doesn't support downgrading of packages.

When dpkg installs another version of a package (typically newer)
it
basically overwrites the existing version and runs the
corresponding
package scripts from the to be installed version.

A newer package may introduce changes that the older package
(scripts)
can't deal with. In practice it does work in many cases, except for
those where it doesn't. Fixing them would require a time machine ;)

A roll-back, especially if automatic, could introduce more issues
than
it fixes.

Someone(tm) has to determine on a case by case basis whether
rolling
back makes sense and the system administrator is in the best
position to
do so.

In theory the package Maintainer could provide a general "hint"
that
system administrators could chose to ignore (at their own risk).

Currently the infrastructure for this doesn't exist[1] and,
besides, I'd
rather have Maintainers focus on fixing the newer package instead.


  Volunteer time is precious!


[1] it would need support in the Debian archive software and APT at
a
minimum.

Besides, there is already an arguably safer (though hackish) way to
achieve that by uploading a package with
version+really.the.old.version
instead.

In this case the Maintainer can also take care to adjust the
package
scripts accordingly.

Random example found on my system:

$ rmadison fonts-font-awesome
fonts-font-awesome | 4.2.0~dfsg-1  |
oldoldstable | source, all
fonts-font-awesome | 4.7.0~dfsg-1  |
oldstable| source, all
fonts-font-awesome | 5.0.10+really4.7.0~dfsg-1 |
stable   | source, all
fonts-font-awesome | 5.0.10+really4.7.0~dfsg-4~bpo10+1 | buster-
backports | source, all
fonts-font-awesome | 5.0.10+really4.7.0~dfsg-4 |
testing  | source, all
fonts-font-awesome | 5.0.10+really4.7.0~dfsg-4 |
unstable | source, all


Kind regards,
Andrei

I hear you, but the issue is that if I revert to a previous version,
then I have to hold it to stop the buggy version from clobbering it
every day. And I have to monitor the Testing version for changes to
see
when a fix is potentially available so I can remove the hold.

Not just me but every user who is experiencing the bug also has to do
this.

There is a kludge for this if the buggy version didn't contain
critical
security fixes - re-release the previous version with a slightly
higher
version number than the buggy one (e.g. 3.7.0-5a). When the bug is
(finally) fixed, give the fixed version a slightly higher number
still
(e.g. 3.7.0.5b).

Again this would only be done where it appears that fixing the bug
may
take time (it's been over a month now). If I were to do the
alternative
- pull packages from Sid - I have no real indication if they fix it
or
introduce even worse problems.

I can only assume that the reason a fix hasn't made it down through
Sid
yet is that it's not simple. My suggestion isn't to make more work
for
maintainers but rather to take the time pressure off them without
leaving us testers to jump through hoops.



Hi,

What appears to be the fixed version is in sid (3.7.0-7). It has to
pass in sid for 10 days before migration to testing, see below link.

https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gnutls28

https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/g/gnutls28/gnutls28_3.7.0-7_changelog

My testing with filezilla, shows all to be working once more, though
testing has been limited.

Regards

Phil

Confirmed. Seems to work. You need to install libnettle and libgnutls 
from Sid as well.

Re: instalar Firefox 85 en debian 10

[miguel angel gonzalez]

Se me pasó decirlo, uso gnome.

Gracias!


El mié, 17 feb 2021 a las 19:46, Camaleón () escribió:

> El 2021-02-17 a las 19:07 +0100, miguel angel gonzalez escribió:
>
> > Para tener la versión más moderna estable, he instalado a mano Firefox
> > 85.0.2 y desinstalado Firefox ESR.
> > Os comento los pasos que he hecho:
>
> (...)
>
> > El problema que tengo es que por ejemplo el icono que tengo en la barra
> de
> > tareas no se comporta como el resto de aplicaciones,
> > cuando pincho en ella no minimiza, abre otra nueva instancia y además no
> > veo esta aplicación para seleccionarla como aplicaciones favoritas.
> > Creo que me falta algún paso. Por cierto, los permisos y propietario del
> > fichero firefox-stable.desktop, los he puesto iguales que los ficheros
> que
> > hay dentro de la ruta, por ejemplo, en /usr/share/applications son de
> root,
> > en /home/usr/.local/share/applications, del usuario.
> >
> > ¿Se os ocurre qué puede ser? Muchas gracias.
>
> Cuando instalas Firefox así (yo también opto por esa solcuión) la
> integración se pierde pero nada que no se pueda solucionar con ajustes
> manuales.
>
> ¿Qué entorno de escritorio tienes? KDE, Gnome, XFCE...
>
> Saludos,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>
>

-- 
/m.a.

Re: Conflicting alternatives

[David Wright]

On Wed 17 Feb 2021 at 11:33:11 (-0500), Dan Ritter wrote:
> David Wright wrote: 
> > 
> > The only realistic suggestion I've read here is from tom??s,
> > who seems to be expressing some sort of shim dispatcher.
> > And I await a thought-out solution from the virtualisation crowd.
> 
> I mean, that's easy, but it doesn't solve the stated problem.
> Each VM is a notional machine, and each machine has one MTA.

Yes, sorry; I was thinking about Stefan's comment about "running
two different SMTP servers on two different interfaces", which seems
to be +some+ sort of use case. Might they then be able to deliver
to the a common MDA?

> It's probably great for learning about all the MTAs, but the
> original requester desperately wants to install multiple MTAs
> on the same machine at the same time.

And the OP's use case? "For convenience when one evaluating or
learning between multiple MTAs etc."

As I first wrote, why not two machines, each one with a different
MTA, and then studying their interoperation.

Or as Greg just put it:
 →
↑ ↓
 ←

Cheers,
David.

Re: Intel Corporation Comet Lake PCH-LP cAVS

[Alexander V. Makartsev]

On 17.02.2021 23:02, Tiago Zaniquelli wrote:

Hello Everybody.

I have a notebook that it has sound board "Intel Corporation Comet 
Lake PCH-LP cAVS".

I use Sid Debian.

My sound doesn´t work and my microphone either.

Could yoy help me?

Thanks


Sent with ProtonMail  Secure Email.

Try installing "firmware-intel-sound" package from "non-free" section 
and reboot. The problem could be resolved just by doing that.

If not send us output from these commands:
    $ aplay -lL | grep -ie '^sysdefault' -ie '^hw' -ie '^card'
    $ lspci -knn | grep -2 -ie 'audio'


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wine 6 debian stretch

[mattias jonsson]

går det äns installera wine 6 på debian stretch? har lagt till wines apt 
repo men det lägsta är wine staging 5.17 likadant wine devel samma version 
som staging

Re: ejecutar un snap

[Marcelo Eduardo Giordano]

Bueno amigo. ya lo voy a ver con tiempo. Lleva un tiempito. Cositas del 
linux. Tendrían que hacerlo mas intuitivo y menos complejo.


Saludos a la lista

On 17/2/21 15:03, Marcos Ariel Di Lauro wrote:
podes fijarte en esta pagina 
http://linuxenandalu.com/2013/10/13/agregar-entradas-al-menu-de-aplicaciones/. 
lo del inicio fijate que hay una apluicacion en xfce que te deja poner 
lo que queres que se inicie.


El 17/2/21 a las 14:34, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió:
Hola Estimado. Reinicié mi linux 10 xcfe y no me aparece en inicio 
dos aplicaciones snap que he instalado.


Whatsdesk

kesti-whatsapp

Quiero que se ejecuten ademas al inicio.

Gracias por toda la ayuda

On 17/2/21 14:06, Marcos Ariel Di Lauro wrote:
En la consola podes ejecutarlo de la siguiente forma : snap run 
programa. Cuando instalas un snap, al reinicar la maquina, te 
tendria que aparecer en la lista de programas de tu escritorio.


El 17/2/21 a las 14:00, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió:


On 17/2/21 13:54, Camaleón wrote:

El 2021-02-17 a las 13:34 -0300, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió:


Estimados. Ejecuto lo siguiente

sudo snap install whatsdesk

pero no puedo ejecutarlo. Como se hace? busco la aplicación (en 
el buscador

de aplicaciones) y no la encuentro.

Algo te faltará...


Espero su ayuda

https://snapcraft.io/install/whatsdesk/debian

Saludos,


Querido Camaleón, me funciona perfecto. Muchas gracias.

Ahora tengo otra duda y te pido disculpas la ignorancia.

Quiero hacer dos cosas

1) Crear un script para iniciar la aplicación (algo asi como que 
aparezca en el buscado de aplicaciones de xfce)


2) Que un snap se ejecute solo al inicio.

Gracias amigos

Re: instalar Firefox 85 en debian 10

[Camaleón]

El 2021-02-17 a las 19:07 +0100, miguel angel gonzalez escribió:

> Para tener la versión más moderna estable, he instalado a mano Firefox
> 85.0.2 y desinstalado Firefox ESR.
> Os comento los pasos que he hecho:

(...)

> El problema que tengo es que por ejemplo el icono que tengo en la barra de
> tareas no se comporta como el resto de aplicaciones,
> cuando pincho en ella no minimiza, abre otra nueva instancia y además no
> veo esta aplicación para seleccionarla como aplicaciones favoritas.
> Creo que me falta algún paso. Por cierto, los permisos y propietario del
> fichero firefox-stable.desktop, los he puesto iguales que los ficheros que
> hay dentro de la ruta, por ejemplo, en /usr/share/applications son de root,
> en /home/usr/.local/share/applications, del usuario.
> 
> ¿Se os ocurre qué puede ser? Muchas gracias.

Cuando instalas Firefox así (yo también opto por esa solcuión) la 
integración se pierde pero nada que no se pueda solucionar con ajustes 
manuales.

¿Qué entorno de escritorio tienes? KDE, Gnome, XFCE...

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón 

Re: networking.service fails

[Gary Dale]

On 2021-02-17 08:28, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Mi, 17 feb 21, 00:01:01, Gary Dale wrote:

On 2021-02-16 19:44, Dmitry Katsubo wrote:

Dear Debian community,

I am puzzled with the following problem. When my Debian 10.8 starts, the unit 
"networking.service" is
marked as failed with the following reason:

root@debian:~ # systemctl status networking.service
*— networking.service - Raise network interfaces
 Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/networking.service; enabled; vendor 
preset: enabled)
 Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Tue 2021-02-16 08:56:16 CET; 5h 
27min ago
   Docs: man:interfaces(5)
Process: 691 ExecStart=/sbin/ifup -a --read-environment (code=exited, 
status=1/FAILURE)
   Main PID: 691 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)

Debian/Busteris still using Network Manager not systemd to control the
network so I think the network.service shouldn't be used.

Well, systemd as init is starting everything so that necessarily
includes starting "the network", which in practice means starting
whatever network management framework is in use[1].

The 'networking.service' service is part of ifupdown, Debian's default
network management framework (Priority: important).

Network Manager is Priority: optional and typically installed as a
Depends/Recommends of Desktop Environments.

[1] this is applicable even for systemd's own network management
framework systemd-networkd, which is included in the 'systemd' Debian
package, but not activated by default.

Kind regards,
Andrei
Sorry, it was midnight when I replied. However the failure is likely 
still due to the interfaces misconfiguration - probably reporting a 
failure to raise a non-existent interface.

Re: identifying my LInux machine on my LAN

[Marc Auslander]

Paul Scott  writes:

>
>ssh and Bitvise still fail t o connect
>
>Paul
/var/log/auth.log may show what's happening if the request gets that far.

Re: awstats, how to see in a browser?

[Thomas Pircher]

Gene Heskett wrote:

On Wednesday 17 February 2021 03:03:05 Thomas Pircher wrote:

http://localhost/cgi-bin/awstats.pl


Connection refused, awstats.pl isn't there.


Ok, from the output of ss it looks like you are running Apache on port
443, so you can try https://localhost/cgi-bin/awstats.pl

It looks like Apache is also running on other ports, but I have no idea
what protocol they are serving.


Further, is that config enabled? Does the symbolic link
/etc/apache2/conf-enabled/awstats.conf exist?


No.


You probably need to enable this config with
a2enconf awstats

and then restart Apache.


odd place.  Soft link it to the above /var/www/cgi-bin?


No, the config file above will tell Apache where to find the binary.


So obviously apache2 has zero knowledge of awstats, yet awstats was
installed here from the stretch repo's?


Have a look in /usr/share/doc/awstats/README.Debian.gz this is described
there.


In wheezy, all this Just Worked. Running slowly out of hair, but it went grey 
20 years back.
anyway. :)


It could be worse, they could have fallen out before they had time to
turn gray.

Thomas

instalar Firefox 85 en debian 10

[miguel angel gonzalez]

Hola,

Para tener la versión más moderna estable, he instalado a mano Firefox
85.0.2 y desinstalado Firefox ESR.
Os comento los pasos que he hecho:

1) Descargar y descomprimir la aplicación en /opt
2) Crear un fichero con el nombre firefox-stable.desktop en la ruta
/usr/share/applications, con el contenido que lo lanza:
[Desktop Entry]
Name=Firefox Stable
Comment=Web Browser
Exec=/opt/firefox/firefox %u
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Icon=/opt/firefox/browser/chrome/icons/default/default128.png
Categories=Network;WebBrowser;
MimeType=text/html;text/xml;application/xhtml+xml;application/xml;application/vnd.mozilla.xul+xml;application/rss+xml;application/rdf+xml;x-scheme-handler/http;x-scheme-handler/https;
StartupNotify=true
Además, he copiado este fichero en la ruta
/home/user/.local/share/applications.

El problema que tengo es que por ejemplo el icono que tengo en la barra de
tareas no se comporta como el resto de aplicaciones,
cuando pincho en ella no minimiza, abre otra nueva instancia y además no
veo esta aplicación para seleccionarla como aplicaciones favoritas.
Creo que me falta algún paso. Por cierto, los permisos y propietario del
fichero firefox-stable.desktop, los he puesto iguales que los ficheros que
hay dentro de la ruta, por ejemplo, en /usr/share/applications son de root,
en /home/usr/.local/share/applications, del usuario.

¿Se os ocurre qué puede ser? Muchas gracias.

Un saludo.

-- 
/m.a.

Re: ejecutar un snap

[Marcos Ariel Di Lauro]

podes fijarte en esta pagina 
http://linuxenandalu.com/2013/10/13/agregar-entradas-al-menu-de-aplicaciones/. 
lo del inicio fijate que hay una apluicacion en xfce que te deja poner 
lo que queres que se inicie.


El 17/2/21 a las 14:34, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió:
Hola Estimado. Reinicié mi linux 10 xcfe y no me aparece en inicio dos 
aplicaciones snap que he instalado.


Whatsdesk

kesti-whatsapp

Quiero que se ejecuten ademas al inicio.

Gracias por toda la ayuda

On 17/2/21 14:06, Marcos Ariel Di Lauro wrote:
En la consola podes ejecutarlo de la siguiente forma : snap run 
programa. Cuando instalas un snap, al reinicar la maquina, te tendria 
que aparecer en la lista de programas de tu escritorio.


El 17/2/21 a las 14:00, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió:


On 17/2/21 13:54, Camaleón wrote:

El 2021-02-17 a las 13:34 -0300, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió:


Estimados. Ejecuto lo siguiente

sudo snap install whatsdesk

pero no puedo ejecutarlo. Como se hace? busco la aplicación (en el 
buscador

de aplicaciones) y no la encuentro.

Algo te faltará...


Espero su ayuda

https://snapcraft.io/install/whatsdesk/debian

Saludos,


Querido Camaleón, me funciona perfecto. Muchas gracias.

Ahora tengo otra duda y te pido disculpas la ignorancia.

Quiero hacer dos cosas

1) Crear un script para iniciar la aplicación (algo asi como que 
aparezca en el buscado de aplicaciones de xfce)


2) Que un snap se ejecute solo al inicio.

Gracias amigos

Intel Corporation Comet Lake PCH-LP cAVS

[Tiago Zaniquelli]

Hello Everybody.

I have a notebook that it has sound board "Intel Corporation Comet Lake PCH-LP 
cAVS".
I use Sid Debian.

My sound doesn´t work and my microphone either.

Could yoy help me?

Thanks

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Re: ejecutar un snap

[Marcelo Eduardo Giordano]

Hola Estimado. Reinicié mi linux 10 xcfe y no me aparece en inicio dos 
aplicaciones snap que he instalado.


Whatsdesk

kesti-whatsapp

Quiero que se ejecuten ademas al inicio.

Gracias por toda la ayuda

On 17/2/21 14:06, Marcos Ariel Di Lauro wrote:
En la consola podes ejecutarlo de la siguiente forma : snap run 
programa. Cuando instalas un snap, al reinicar la maquina, te tendria 
que aparecer en la lista de programas de tu escritorio.


El 17/2/21 a las 14:00, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió:


On 17/2/21 13:54, Camaleón wrote:

El 2021-02-17 a las 13:34 -0300, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió:


Estimados. Ejecuto lo siguiente

sudo snap install whatsdesk

pero no puedo ejecutarlo. Como se hace? busco la aplicación (en el 
buscador

de aplicaciones) y no la encuentro.

Algo te faltará...


Espero su ayuda

https://snapcraft.io/install/whatsdesk/debian

Saludos,


Querido Camaleón, me funciona perfecto. Muchas gracias.

Ahora tengo otra duda y te pido disculpas la ignorancia.

Quiero hacer dos cosas

1) Crear un script para iniciar la aplicación (algo asi como que 
aparezca en el buscado de aplicaciones de xfce)


2) Que un snap se ejecute solo al inicio.

Gracias amigos

Re: identifying my LInux machine on my LAN - some success

[Paul Scott]

On 2/17/21 10:03 AM, IL Ka wrote:



paul@Joy4:~/music/pima$ systemctl status ssh``

● ssh.service - OpenBSD Secure Shell server
  Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/ssh.service; enabled;
vendor
preset: enabled)
  Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-02-16 11:53:13 MST;
21h ago
    Docs: man:sshd(8)
  man:sshd_config(5)
    Main PID: 359457 (sshd)

Before replying to your help below I can now connect from my Mac on the 
same LAN both with ssh to the IP of this machine and through my dynamic 
DNS address.  I'll try Bitvise from the local Windows machine soon.


And what about the ip address and port number?

Check your ip:
$ ip addr

I should have replied ealier that the above gives the correct IP address.


Check which ports are opened:
$ sudo ss -tl4p

Check which ip/port ssh is configured for
$ sudo sshd -T | grep list


paul@Joy4:~/music/pima$ sudo sshd -T | grep list
listenaddress [::]:22
listenaddress 0.0.0.0:22
permitlisten any

I'll try the following in a while/



 Try to ping it from your Windows machine.
c:\> ping [your_linux_ip_addr]
does it work?
Then, try to connect to port 22 using telnet to see if connection 
could be made.


In Admin powershell
PS C:\>  Enable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName TelnetClient
PS C:\>  telnet [your_linux_ip_addr]


Thank you,

Paul

Re: Serifed, variable-pitch font.

[tomas]

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 07:52:33AM -0800, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
> From: 
> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 09:57:24 +0100
> > If all you want is a serif font and care to be portable, your best
> > choice will be to specify a generic "serif", like so:
> > 
> >   font-family: serif
> 
> Will try that, thanks.  
> 
> Really, two attributes are involved: serifing and spacing.
> Specification of both should be possible.  Eg. 
> font-family: serif & monospace
> font-family: sans-serif & monospace
> font-family: serif & varispace
> font-family: sans-serif & varispace

Note that in this context, 'serif' isn't an attribute, but a "generic
font family". Namely the one where you'll find Times and sisters.

So unless the browser is downright malicious it'll pick a non-monospaced
font. If it's malicious, its user will hopefully know...

Cheers
 - t


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Re: ejecutar un snap

[Marcos Ariel Di Lauro]

En la consola podes ejecutarlo de la siguiente forma : snap run 
programa. Cuando instalas un snap, al reinicar la maquina, te tendria 
que aparecer en la lista de programas de tu escritorio.


El 17/2/21 a las 14:00, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió:


On 17/2/21 13:54, Camaleón wrote:

El 2021-02-17 a las 13:34 -0300, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió:


Estimados. Ejecuto lo siguiente

sudo snap install whatsdesk

pero no puedo ejecutarlo. Como se hace? busco la aplicación (en el 
buscador

de aplicaciones) y no la encuentro.

Algo te faltará...


Espero su ayuda

https://snapcraft.io/install/whatsdesk/debian

Saludos,


Querido Camaleón, me funciona perfecto. Muchas gracias.

Ahora tengo otra duda y te pido disculpas la ignorancia.

Quiero hacer dos cosas

1) Crear un script para iniciar la aplicación (algo asi como que 
aparezca en el buscado de aplicaciones de xfce)


2) Que un snap se ejecute solo al inicio.

Gracias amigos

Re: awstats, how to see in a browser?

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 17 February 2021 03:03:05 Thomas Pircher wrote:

> Gene Heskett wrote:
> >apt/synaptic installed so I assume you mean /var/www etc
>
> Hi Gene,
>
> actually I meant the path part in the URL, so if you reach your web
> server on localhost on the HTTP protocol, then the URL would be
> http://localhost/cgi-bin/awstats.pl
>
> >ene@coyote:/var/www/cgi-bin$ ls -R
>
Connection refused, awstats.pl isn't there.

> It looks like you have a lot of CGI scripts installed, so the only way
> to find out how to reach the awstats page is to read the Apache
> configuration.
>
> First, check if you have /etc/apache2/conf-available/awstats.conf (as
> described in /usr/share/doc/awstats/README.Debian.gz).
> Further, is that config enabled? Does the symbolic link
> /etc/apache2/conf-enabled/awstats.conf exist?
>
No.

> What is the content of that file?
>
> >ss -nlpt
> >A new to me command but:
>
> Hmm, sorry, I should have said that you need to run this command as
> root, otherwise you won't see all services, and it won't show you the
> process name. `ss` is a replacement for the `netstat` command.
>
> Thomas
root@coyote:~$ ss -nlpt
StateRecv-Q   Send-Q   Local Address:PortPeer Address:Port
LISTEN   05  0.0.0.0:631  0.0.0.0:*   
users:(("cupsd",pid=12811,fd=9))
LISTEN   01280.0.0.0:443  0.0.0.0:*   
users:(("apache2",pid=1145,fd=4),
("apache2",pid=1144,fd=4),("apache2",pid=1119,fd=4))
LISTEN   032 0.0.0.0:7741 0.0.0.0:*   
users:(("lisa",pid=770,fd=4))
LISTEN   064 0.0.0.0:100800.0.0.0:*   
users:(("xinetd",pid=936,fd=5))
LISTEN   01280.0.0.0:6309 0.0.0.0:*   
users:(("apache2",pid=1145,fd=3),
("apache2",pid=1144,fd=3),("apache2",pid=1119,fd=3))
LISTEN   016   127.0.0.1:3493 0.0.0.0:*   
users:(("upsd",pid=988,fd=4))
LISTEN   01280.0.0.0:3142 0.0.0.0:*   
users:(("apt-cacher-ng",pid=864,fd=5))
LISTEN   064 0.0.0.0:6566 0.0.0.0:*   
users:(("xinetd",pid=936,fd=9))
LISTEN   05  0.0.0.0:191500.0.0.0:*   
users:(("gkrellmd",pid=896,fd=3))
LISTEN   0128  127.0.0.1:783  0.0.0.0:*   
users:(("spamd child",pid=15804,fd=5),("spamd 
child",pid=15803,fd=5),("spamd",pid=15802,fd=5))
LISTEN   01280.0.0.0:22   0.0.0.0:*   
users:(("sshd",pid=899,fd=3))
LISTEN   05 [::]:631 [::]:*   
users:(("cupsd",pid=12811,fd=10))
LISTEN   0128   [::]:3142[::]:*   
users:(("apt-cacher-ng",pid=864,fd=6))
LISTEN   05 [::]:19150   [::]:*   
users:(("gkrellmd",pid=896,fd=4))

Hu,
oot@coyote:conf-available$ locate awstats.pl
/usr/lib/cgi-bin/awstats.pl
root@coyote:conf-available$  

odd place.  Soft link it to the above /var/www/cgi-bin?

and:
root@coyote:conf-available$ ls -1 `locate awstats.conf`
/etc/awstats/awstats.conf
/etc/awstats/awstats.conf.local
/var/lib/dpkg/info/awstats.conffiles

So obviously apache2 has zero knowledge of awstats, yet awstats was 
installed here from the stretch repo's?

Same story it appears for awffull whose output I like slightly better. Zero 
connection to apache2.

In wheezy, all this Just Worked. Running slowly out of hair, but it went grey 
20 years back.
anyway. :)

Thanks Thomas.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: identifying my LInux machine on my LAN

[IL Ka]

>
>
> paul@Joy4:~/music/pima$ systemctl status ssh``
>
> ● ssh.service - OpenBSD Secure Shell server
>   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/ssh.service; enabled; vendor
> preset: enabled)
>   Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-02-16 11:53:13 MST; 21h ago
> Docs: man:sshd(8)
>   man:sshd_config(5)
> Main PID: 359457 (sshd)
>

And what about the ip address and port number?

Check your ip:
$ ip addr

Check which ports are opened:
$ sudo ss -tl4p

Check which ip/port ssh is configured for
$ sudo sshd -T | grep list



ssh and Bitvise still fail t o connect
>

 Try to ping it from your Windows machine.
c:\> ping [your_linux_ip_addr]
does it work?
Then, try to connect to port 22 using telnet to see if connection could be
made.

In Admin powershell
PS C:\>  Enable-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online -FeatureName TelnetClient
PS C:\>  telnet [your_linux_ip_addr]

Re: ejecutar un snap

[Marcelo Eduardo Giordano]

On 17/2/21 13:54, Camaleón wrote:

El 2021-02-17 a las 13:34 -0300, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió:


Estimados. Ejecuto lo siguiente

sudo snap install whatsdesk

pero no puedo ejecutarlo. Como se hace? busco la aplicación (en el buscador
de aplicaciones) y no la encuentro.

Algo te faltará...


Espero su ayuda

https://snapcraft.io/install/whatsdesk/debian

Saludos,


Querido Camaleón, me funciona perfecto. Muchas gracias.

Ahora tengo otra duda y te pido disculpas la ignorancia.

Quiero hacer dos cosas

1) Crear un script para iniciar la aplicación (algo asi como que 
aparezca en el buscado de aplicaciones de xfce)


2) Que un snap se ejecute solo al inicio.

Gracias amigos

Re: ejecutar un snap

[Camaleón]

El 2021-02-17 a las 13:34 -0300, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió:

> Estimados. Ejecuto lo siguiente
> 
> sudo snap install whatsdesk
> 
> pero no puedo ejecutarlo. Como se hace? busco la aplicación (en el buscador
> de aplicaciones) y no la encuentro.

Algo te faltará...

> Espero su ayuda

https://snapcraft.io/install/whatsdesk/debian

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón 

Re: identifying my LInux machine on my LAN

[Paul Scott]

On 2/16/21 1:07 PM, IL Ka wrote:

systemctl status ssh``



paul@Joy4:~/music/pima$ systemctl status ssh``

● ssh.service - OpenBSD Secure Shell server
 Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/ssh.service; enabled; vendor 
preset: enabled)

 Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-02-16 11:53:13 MST; 21h ago
   Docs: man:sshd(8)
 man:sshd_config(5)
   Main PID: 359457 (sshd)
  Tasks: 3 (limit: 16625)
 Memory: 3.5M
    CPU: 28.076s
 CGroup: /system.slice/ssh.service
 ├─359457 sshd: /usr/sbin/sshd -D [listener] 1 of 10-100 
startups

 ├─390020 sshd: unknown [priv]

 └─390021 sshd: unknown [net]


ssh and Bitvise still fail t o connect

Paul

Re: Serifed, variable-pitch font.

[peter]

From: 
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 09:57:24 +0100
> If all you want is a serif font and care to be portable, your best
> choice will be to specify a generic "serif", like so:
> 
>   font-family: serif

Will try that, thanks.  

Really, two attributes are involved: serifing and spacing.
Specification of both should be possible.  Eg. 
font-family: serif & monospace
font-family: sans-serif & monospace
font-family: serif & varispace
font-family: sans-serif & varispace

The syntax I've seen allows only one attribute: either spacing or 
sarifing.  And varispace is not included.  A CSS committee might be 
working on it; bit by bit.

Thanks, ... P.

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ejecutar un snap

[Marcelo Eduardo Giordano]

Estimados. Ejecuto lo siguiente

sudo snap install whatsdesk

pero no puedo ejecutarlo. Como se hace? busco la aplicación (en el 
buscador de aplicaciones) y no la encuentro.


Espero su ayuda

Re: Conflicting alternatives

[Dan Ritter]

David Wright wrote: 
> 
> The only realistic suggestion I've read here is from tom??s,
> who seems to be expressing some sort of shim dispatcher.
> And I await a thought-out solution from the virtualisation crowd.

I mean, that's easy, but it doesn't solve the stated problem.
Each VM is a notional machine, and each machine has one MTA.

It's probably great for learning about all the MTAs, but the
original requester desperately wants to install multiple MTAs
on the same machine at the same time.

-dsr-

Re: Conflicting alternatives

[Greg Wooledge]

On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 12:06:37AM +0800, Kevin Shell wrote:
> You could stop one and start the other,
> there's no resources or port conflict.
> I want to just keep both, not run them at the same time.

Again, as stated at the start of this fiasco of a thread, Debian policy
says that all daemons must be started up by default.

Well anyway, everything that is relevant has already been stated, and
we're in the reruns now, so ... enjoy reliving this time loop as many
times as it takes.

Re: Serifed, variable-pitch font.

[peter]

From: Darac Marjal 
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:26:54 +
> ... worth looking at the W3C's recommendations for "Web Safe Fonts".

Helpful link.  Thanks Darac,  ... P.
  



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Re: Conflicting alternatives

[David Wright]

On Wed 17 Feb 2021 at 10:49:35 (-0500), The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2021-02-17 at 10:25, David Wright wrote:
> > On Wed 17 Feb 2021 at 20:45:02 (+0800), Kevin Shell wrote:
> >> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 07:19:52PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >> > 
> >> [...]
> >> > It'd be work in the DPKG/APT code, yes.  But it would require no extra
> >> > work from the people doing the packaging.
> >> 
> >> I know little technical details about the Debian package manager,
> >> from an end user's perspective, the package manager should give the user
> >> the choise not to uninstall a wanted package,
> > 
> > Call that 1.
> > 
> >> if the user don't give a choise, the package manager can perform the
> >> default action to remove the package. 
> > 
> > Call that 2.
> > 
> >> I think this method is a better default behavior for the package manager 
> >> for some similar packages.
> > 
> > Is that not true now?
> > 
> > $ apt-get -s install busybox-static
> 
> > The following packages will be REMOVED:  ← case 2 --
> >   busybox
> > The following NEW packages will be installed:
> >   busybox-static
> 
> > ~# aptitude hold busybox
> > ~# 
> > 
> > $ apt-get -s install busybox-static
> 
> > The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> >  busybox : Conflicts: busybox-static but 1:1.30.1-4 is to be installed
> >  busybox-static : Conflicts: busybox  ← case 1 --
> 
> I think what he's wanting is a case which would allow installing
> busybox-static, but not insist on removing busybox. (Or the equivalent
> in his actual use-case, where the files installed by the two packages
> might not actually overlap.)
> 
> Where that runs into trouble is that even if the *files* don't overlap,
> other resources which the package needs to control exclusively quite
> possibly do - the most prominent example, from the discussion at hand
> regarding MTAs, being port 25.

I entirely agree, and that's why I wrote

  Who's putting in the work to actually make two MTAs coexist?
  Is this productive use of their time?

But these discussions often head off into odd territory, which here
seems to be:

. Break apt's conflicts mechanism and that'll fix it (just for me).
  - alternatives/dummy package appear to be able to avoid the necessity.

. Extend the alternatives mechanism and that'll fix it.
  - AIUI alternatives is aimed at a different target.

. Other distributions manage this easily.
  - what mechanism are they actually using? (rather than a
reference to a package or heap of code).

The only realistic suggestion I've read here is from tomás,
who seems to be expressing some sort of shim dispatcher.
And I await a thought-out solution from the virtualisation crowd.

Maybe enough from the "peanut gallery".

Cheers,
David.

Re: Conflicting alternatives

[Kevin Shell]

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 10:49:35AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2021-02-17 at 10:25, David Wright wrote:
> 
[...]
> I think what he's wanting is a case which would allow installing
> busybox-static, but not insist on removing busybox. (Or the equivalent
> in his actual use-case, where the files installed by the two packages
> might not actually overlap.)
> 
yes.
Supose my system
have installed these packages exim4-base exim4-config exim4-daemon-heavy


What I'd hope apt to do is
# apt install postfix

Output:
[...]
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  exim4-base exim4-config exim4-daemon-heavy
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  postfix


Case 1 the default: User hit Enter key and apt remove exim4 and install
postfix
Case 2: user choose to keep exim4 and apt keep it and install postfix

> Where that runs into trouble is that even if the *files* don't overlap,
> other resources which the package needs to control exclusively quite
> possibly do - the most prominent example, from the discussion at hand
> regarding MTAs, being port 25.

You could stop one and start the other,
there's no resources or port conflict.
I want to just keep both, not run them at the same time.

-- 
kevin

Re: Conflicting alternatives

[The Wanderer]

On 2021-02-17 at 10:25, David Wright wrote:

> On Wed 17 Feb 2021 at 20:45:02 (+0800), Kevin Shell wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 07:19:52PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> > 
>> [...]
>> > It'd be work in the DPKG/APT code, yes.  But it would require no extra
>> > work from the people doing the packaging.
>> 
>> I know little technical details about the Debian package manager,
>> from an end user's perspective, the package manager should give the user
>> the choise not to uninstall a wanted package,
> 
> Call that 1.
> 
>> if the user don't give a choise, the package manager can perform the
>> default action to remove the package. 
> 
> Call that 2.
> 
>> I think this method is a better default behavior for the package manager 
>> for some similar packages.
> 
> Is that not true now?
> 
> $ apt-get -s install busybox-static

> The following packages will be REMOVED:  ← case 2 --
>   busybox
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   busybox-static

> ~# aptitude hold busybox
> ~# 
> 
> $ apt-get -s install busybox-static

> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  busybox : Conflicts: busybox-static but 1:1.30.1-4 is to be installed
>  busybox-static : Conflicts: busybox  ← case 1 --

I think what he's wanting is a case which would allow installing
busybox-static, but not insist on removing busybox. (Or the equivalent
in his actual use-case, where the files installed by the two packages
might not actually overlap.)

Where that runs into trouble is that even if the *files* don't overlap,
other resources which the package needs to control exclusively quite
possibly do - the most prominent example, from the discussion at hand
regarding MTAs, being port 25.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: pulseaudio records too high [SOLVED]

[José Luis González]

Hi Klaumi,

Your message helped me solve the problem.

It turned out that setting the microphone level in Input devices
unlocked the recording volume setting, and ever since this setting the
volume in "Recording" tab works!

Now I have been able to lower the volume and get the microphone working
back to sensible levels.

Thank you so much!


On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 16:16:20 +0100
Klaumi Klingsporn  wrote:

> Am / On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 15:42:01 +0100
> schrieb / wrote Sebastian Ramacher :
> 
> > On 2021-02-17 15:28:54, José Luis González wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I have problems recording audio with pulseaudio.
> > > Recording volume is noticeably too high: there is a lot
> > > of background noise and my voice on a loop test sounds
> > > completely distorted and too loud.
> > > 
> > > The problem is I can't change recording volume at all.
> > > If I lower volume, recording volume doesn't change,
> > > even if I set it to silence.
> >...
> > For user support please contact 
> > debian-user@lists.debian.org
> 
> Beside this general advice from Sebastian:
> 
> You probably have to adjust the recording-level and/or the
> level of the monitor-device of your soundcard. Use
> pavucontrol to do this. 
> 
> The recoding-level is in the recording tab, the monitor
> level in the tab 'input devices'. The later you have to set
> to see 'all input devices' at the bottom of the tab to see
> the montoring device.
> 
> Set the input device of your recording program to alsa and
> default. Start the playing program and then the recording
> program. 
> 
> In the recording tab of pavucontrol you see now your
> recording program and that is recording the Monitor of your
> soundcard. If not change it to the monitor! The level should
> be set to 100%. 
> 
> In the input device tab of pavucontrol you see the level of
> the monitor which you can adjust to your needs.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> 
> 
> Klaumi
> 
> 
> ---
> Klaumi Klingsporn 
> mail: klaumi...@gmx.de
> web: www.klaumikli.de

Re: Conflicting alternatives

[David Wright]

On Wed 17 Feb 2021 at 20:45:02 (+0800), Kevin Shell wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 07:19:52PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > 
> [...]
> > It'd be work in the DPKG/APT code, yes.  But it would require no extra
> > work from the people doing the packaging.
> 
> I know little technical details about the Debian package manager,
> from an end user's perspective, the package manager should give the user
> the choise not to uninstall a wanted package,

Call that 1.

> if the user don't give a choise, the package manager can perform the
> default action to remove the package. 

Call that 2.

> I think this method is a better default behavior for the package manager 
> for some similar packages.

Is that not true now?

$ apt-get -s install busybox-static
NOTE: This is only a simulation!
  […]
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:  ← case 2 --
  busybox
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  busybox-static
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
Remv busybox [1:1.30.1-4] [cryptsetup-initramfs:amd64 ]
Inst busybox-static (1:1.30.1-4 Debian:10.8/stable [amd64])
Conf busybox-static (1:1.30.1-4 Debian:10.8/stable [amd64])
$ 

~# aptitude hold busybox
~# 

$ apt-get -s install busybox-static
NOTE: This is only a simulation!
  […]
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 busybox : Conflicts: busybox-static but 1:1.30.1-4 is to be installed
 busybox-static : Conflicts: busybox  ← case 1 --
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by 
held packages.
100 $ 

~# aptitude unhold busybox 
~# 

Cheers,
David.

pulseaudio records too high

[José Luis González]

Hi,

I have problems recording audio with pulseaudio. Recording volume is
noticeably too high: there is a lot of background noise and my voice on
a loop test sounds completely distorted and too loud.

The problem is I can't change recording volume at all. If I lower
volume, recording volume doesn't change, even if I set it to silence.

I'm experiencing this with Skype and Teams, but it happens with other
apps as well. For instance, a web mic test shows the same problem.

It's been happening since today (probably). Several days ago I was
using the microphone without problems. The only thing I did that may
have to do with it today is installing Bluetooth packages and the
dependencies (and tarball) for SoundWire Server.

Anybody can help, please?

Thanks a lot in advance.

Re: Instal·lacuó IDCAT

[Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda]

El 17/2/21 a les 13:44, Eduard Selma ha escrit:
Perdoneu que us faci una pregunta que segurament té una resposta òbvia, però 
preferiria que la contestés algun usuari de Debian i no d'un altre S. O.


Acabo d'aconseguir un certificat IDCAT en clauer USB. Al seu interior només hi 
ha una carpeta amb un únic fitxer (binari) que té com a nom el meu NIF i 
l'extensió ".p12" (potser de pkcs?).
Evidentment, el meu Sistema Operatiu (Debian Buster, Stable) no té aquesta 
extensió associada a cap aplicació. Per la xarxa he trobat indicacions referides 
a Ubuntus (obsolets, d'altra banda) que recomanen instal·lar unes determinades 
biblioteques, que potser no seran les adequades per a Buster.


Les indicacions al web de IDCAT també es refereixen a Ubuntus antics, i no em 
resulten de gaire ajuda.


Eduard,

Configuració dels certificats

Al Firefox:

Preferències -> Privadesa i seguretat -> Certificats -> Mostra els certificats

A la pestanya Entitats cal afegir si no hi és:


I també cal seguir aquesta pàgina per carregar els certificats de l'AOC:

https://www.aoc.cat/knowledge-base/claus-publiques/

En concret:

https://www.aoc.cat/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/2020_arxiucp.zip.

I donar-li confiança màxima.

Després:

Preferències -> Privadesa i seguretat -> Certificats -> Mostra els certificats

Els teus certificats, importa.


Prova i ens dius.


Leopold

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Re: editer un pdf

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2021-02-16 13:01:14 +, elguero eric wrote:
> - xournal : c'est celui qui a été le plus utile pour moi.
> c'est un peu délicat de caler le texte au bon endroit
> puisqu'il ne reconnaît pas les lignes du document
> (j'ai l'impression qu'il le voit comme une image raster)

Le PDF est considéré par xournal comme un calque non modifiable,
et ce que tu ajoutes se fait "par dessus".

> mais ça marche. Je ne suis pas certain qu'ensuite
> le document reste un pdf éditable par mes collègues
> windowsistes... 

Quand on exporte en PDF, le contenu sous forme de texte est bien
préservé, et le texte que tu as ajouté éventuellement est bien
inscrit sous forme de texte. Tout ce texte est cherchable et
sélectionnable avec atril et xpdf, par exemple. Je suppose qu'il
peut donc être édité par les outils capables de le faire (il y a
LibreOffice qui sait le faire, mais en détruisant au passage la
mise en page d'origine lors du passage dans son format).

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Re: Validacions de formularis PDF per internet

[Orestes Mas]

Molt bona síntesi. Interessa molt que estigui disponible per la comunitat. Fins 
i tot seria molt interessant de tenir unes instruccions sobre com compilar el 
poppler i l'okular a bullseye, en cas que la versió actualitzada no estigui 
disponible a backports.

Orestes.


El 17 de febrer de 2021 8:55:10 CET, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda 
 ha escrit:
>Bones,
>
>
>voldria aportar el meu granet de sorra al fil ja que a finals de l'any
>passat em 
>vaig barallar bastant amb el tema.
>
>Jo actualment, a Debian Buster, mitjançant el meu carnet de la UPC o el
>meu DNIe 
>i un lector de targetes, puc:
>
>* Signar un pdf amb l'Autofirma però només amb el carnet de la UPC.
>Autofirma 
>(1.6.5) a GNU/Linux i MacOS actualment falla amb els nous DNIe per
>culpa de la 
>mancança del certificat de la DGP. [1]
>
>* Amb el Libreoffice puc veure (i validar) i signar un PDF. Però tinc 
>deslocalitzades les instruccions. Espero poder-les trobar aviat.
>
>* Amb el Firefox puc entrar "a la meva salut", als ajuntaments
>(Terrassa i 
>Barcelona) i fer gestions.
>
>* A la aoc.cat puc validar pdfs, però tenen un problema amb la
>plataforma 
>GNU/Linux que no han resolt. Tiquet obert des del gener.
>
>* Em sobta molt la manca d'ús del millor programa per veure pdfs que
>tenim a 
>GNU/Linux que és l'Okular. Des de que el principal desenvolupador és
>local i 
>això ja mereixeria tenir-lo en compte, fins que la versió de gener de
>2021 pot 
>signar pdfs i validar-los tal com far l'Acroread (versió disponible
>21.04). La 
>llàstima és que no entrarà a Bullseye ja que la versió del Poppler
>adequada no 
>va entrar.
>
>* Si algú li interessa, tinc pendent pujar-lo a les píndoles, però aquí
>hi ha el 
>manual que vaig fer per configurar les coses. Manca la part del
>libreoffice.
>
>https://gitioc.upc.edu/ioc/identitat_e/-/wikis/Targetes-a-GNU/Linux
>
>Salutacions,
>
>
>Leopold
>
>
>[1] https://github.com/ctt-gob-es/clienteafirma/issues/145
>
>
>
>El 16/2/21 a les 20:55, Narcis Garcia ha escrit:
>>>
>>> Aquesta és una de les coses que trobo que li falta al nostre Debian,
>>> un programa per omplir i signar els documents PDF que integren
>>> formularis.
>>>
>>> Avui dia aquests documents sembla que hi siguin per tot arreu i no
>>> veig la forma de poder-lo fer.
>>>
>>> El Evince (el lector que faig servir per mirar els PDF), no permet
>ni
>>> tan sols la verificació de signatures, això ho he resolt amb el
>>> autofirma, que si hi ha versió per Linux i permet signar i
>verificar.
>>>
>>> Salut!
>>>
>>> Javier
>>>
>> 
>> Crec que amb l'Autofirma almenys ja hi ha una via consistent per a
>> signar i per a veure signatures. És clar que seria desitjable quelcom
>> més ben integrat al sistema.
>> 
>> L'Evince permet veure, emplenar i desar formularis, però la majoria
>dels
>> de la Generalitat de Catalunya no.
>> Aquest tema suposo que és tant feixuc com l'Adobe Flash ho va ser,
>però
>> amb l'agravant d'una administració que se'n diu «oberta», i sovint
>> dificultant l'exercici dels drets de les persones.
>> 
>> Jo d'aquesta tecnologia en diria una tecnologia-barrera, que aixeca
>nous
>> murs burocràtics amb els quals l'administració pública es protegeix
>de
>> nosaltres, les persones.
>> 
>
>
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Re: networking.service fails

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Mi, 17 feb 21, 00:01:01, Gary Dale wrote:
> On 2021-02-16 19:44, Dmitry Katsubo wrote:
> > Dear Debian community,
> > 
> > I am puzzled with the following problem. When my Debian 10.8 starts, the 
> > unit "networking.service" is
> > marked as failed with the following reason:
> > 
> > root@debian:~ # systemctl status networking.service
> > *— networking.service - Raise network interfaces
> > Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/networking.service; enabled; vendor 
> > preset: enabled)
> > Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Tue 2021-02-16 08:56:16 CET; 
> > 5h 27min ago
> >   Docs: man:interfaces(5)
> >Process: 691 ExecStart=/sbin/ifup -a --read-environment (code=exited, 
> > status=1/FAILURE)
> >   Main PID: 691 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
> 
> Debian/Busteris still using Network Manager not systemd to control the
> network so I think the network.service shouldn't be used.

Well, systemd as init is starting everything so that necessarily 
includes starting "the network", which in practice means starting 
whatever network management framework is in use[1].

The 'networking.service' service is part of ifupdown, Debian's default 
network management framework (Priority: important).

Network Manager is Priority: optional and typically installed as a 
Depends/Recommends of Desktop Environments.

[1] this is applicable even for systemd's own network management 
framework systemd-networkd, which is included in the 'systemd' Debian 
package, but not activated by default.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Instal·lacuó IDCAT

[Joan]

Aquesta extensió, si no m'equicoco, et serveix per exemple per importar
el certificat amb el navegador. Si vas a l'apartat de seguretat del
Firefox, per exemple, voràs que hi ha un subapartat de certificats, i
allà una pestanya de certificats personals a on et permet
importar-los...

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ser útil, des del meu lloc, als pocs valors sense els quals un món no
val la pena viure'l" A. Camus

i pels que teniu fe:
"Déu no és la Veritat, la Veritat és Déu"
Gandhi


El Wed, 17 Feb 2021 13:44:57 +0100
Eduard Selma  va escriure:

> Perdoneu que us faci una pregunta que segurament té una resposta
> òbvia, però preferiria que la contestés algun usuari de Debian i no
> d'un altre S. O.
> 
> Acabo d'aconseguir un certificat IDCAT en clauer USB. Al seu interior 
> només hi ha una carpeta amb un únic fitxer (binari) que té com a nom
> el meu NIF i l'extensió ".p12" (potser de pkcs?).
> Evidentment, el meu Sistema Operatiu (Debian Buster, Stable) no té 
> aquesta extensió associada a cap aplicació. Per la xarxa he trobat 
> indicacions referides a Ubuntus (obsolets, d'altra banda) que
> recomanen instal·lar unes determinades biblioteques, que potser no
> seran les adequades per a Buster.
> 
> Les indicacions al web de IDCAT també es refereixen a Ubuntus antics,
> i no em resulten de gaire ajuda.
> 
> Segurament algú de vosaltres ja ha passat per aquest tràngol i em
> pugui aconsellar. En aquest cas, mercès per endavant.
> 
>   Salut i codi lliure,
> 
>   Eduard Selma
> 



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http://personal.calbasi.net

"El meu paper no és transformar el món ni l'home sinó, potser, el de
ser útil, des del meu lloc, als pocs valors sense els quals un món no
val la pena viure'l" A. Camus

i pels que teniu fe:
"Déu no és la Veritat, la Veritat és Déu"
Gandhi

Re: networking.service fails

[Henning Follmann]

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 01:44:35AM +0100, Dmitry Katsubo wrote:
> Dear Debian community,
> 
> I am puzzled with the following problem. When my Debian 10.8 starts, the unit 
> "networking.service" is
> marked as failed with the following reason:
> 

[...]

> 
> and also set a big timeout for br0 in /etc/network/interfaces:
> 
> auto lo
> auto eth0
> auto eth1
> iface lo inet loopback
> auto br0
> iface br0 inet static
> ...
> bridge_ports eth0 eth1
> bridge_maxwait 60
> 
> but still the error occurs each time. Relative dmesg logs are:
> 
> Feb 16 08:56:16 debian systemd[1]: Starting Raise network interfaces...
> Feb 16 08:56:16 debian ifup[691]: ifup: unknown interface eth0
> Feb 16 08:56:16 debian ifup[691]: ifup: unknown interface eth1

Are you using eth0, eth1?
Or are you using predictable network names?
https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkInterfaceNames


> Feb 16 08:56:16 debian ifup[691]: Waiting for br0 to get ready (MAXWAIT is 60 
> seconds).
> Feb 16 08:56:16 debian systemd[1]: networking.service: Main process exited, 
> code=exited, status=1/FAILURE
> Feb 16 08:56:16 debian systemd[1]: networking.service: Failed with result 
> 'exit-code'.
> Feb 16 08:56:16 debian systemd[1]: Failed to start Raise network interfaces.
> Feb 16 08:56:16.113716 debian systemd-udevd[387]: Using default interface 
> naming scheme 'v240'.
> Feb 16 08:56:16.113796 debian systemd-udevd[387]: link_config: 
> autonegotiation is unset or enabled, the speed and duplex are not writable.
[...]

-H


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Instal·lacuó IDCAT

[Eduard Selma]

Perdoneu que us faci una pregunta que segurament té una resposta òbvia, 
però preferiria que la contestés algun usuari de Debian i no d'un altre 
S. O.


Acabo d'aconseguir un certificat IDCAT en clauer USB. Al seu interior 
només hi ha una carpeta amb un únic fitxer (binari) que té com a nom el 
meu NIF i l'extensió ".p12" (potser de pkcs?).
Evidentment, el meu Sistema Operatiu (Debian Buster, Stable) no té 
aquesta extensió associada a cap aplicació. Per la xarxa he trobat 
indicacions referides a Ubuntus (obsolets, d'altra banda) que recomanen 
instal·lar unes determinades biblioteques, que potser no seran les 
adequades per a Buster.


Les indicacions al web de IDCAT també es refereixen a Ubuntus antics, i 
no em resulten de gaire ajuda.


Segurament algú de vosaltres ja ha passat per aquest tràngol i em pugui 
aconsellar. En aquest cas, mercès per endavant.


Salut i codi lliure,

Eduard Selma

Re: Conflicting alternatives

[Kevin Shell]

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 07:19:52PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> 
[...]
> It'd be work in the DPKG/APT code, yes.  But it would require no extra
> work from the people doing the packaging.
> 

I know little technical details about the Debian package manager,
from an end user's perspective, the package manager should give the user
the choise not to uninstall a wanted package,
if the user don't give a choise, the package manager can perform the
default action to remove the package. 
I think this method is a better default behavior for the package manager 
for some similar packages.

-- 
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Re: NUMA nvidia -persiste

[Alexander V. Makartsev]

On 16.02.2021 12:45, Charles Virot wrote:

Hi,
I got 5 related errors in my log :

device :01:00.0 - failed to online memory.
device :01:00.0 - NUMA: Failed to get device file descriptor
NUMA: Failed to get device file
NUMA: Failed to get device minor number
NUMA: Failed to extract device minor number from 
/proc/driver/nvidia/gpus/:01:00.0/information


I'm on Buster with a laptop Dell Lattitude E6400.
Can you help me please ?

Thanks for your help !
Charles.

These errors are symptoms. What is the problem you trying to solve?
Send output from these commands, so we can have more information:
    $ uname -a
    $ lspci -vnnd 10de:


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Re: FileZilla / ftp / GnuTLS error connecting to sites with Testing/Bullseye

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Ma, 16 feb 21, 16:45:13, Gary Dale wrote:
> 
> I hear you, but the issue is that if I revert to a previous version, then I
> have to hold it to stop the buggy version from clobbering it every day. And
> I have to monitor the Testing version for changes to see when a fix is
> potentially available so I can remove the hold.
> 
> Not just me but every user who is experiencing the bug also has to do this.

This is what 'aptitude forbid-version' is for.

Kind regards,
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Re: Validacions de formularis PDF per internet

[Narcis Garcia]

Comento que si t'instal·les el certificat digital al M. Firefox,
aleshores l'aplicació Autofirma l'utilitza d'allà, i ja no cal connectar
un lector de DNI.

Ara he provat l'Okular a Debian 10 i, a diferència de l'Evince, informa
d'allò que dóna problemes. Per exemple, aquesta versió informa que no
admet formularis XFA.
Funciona molt bé, tot i que la versió 17 que porta el repositori de
Debian (buster) no inclou el tema de signatura digital.
A veure si entra per a Debian 12 i aleshores al repositori
bullseye-backports.

Una altra alternativa seria que el desenvolupador l'empaquetés pel seu
compte per a Debian 11 (bullseye), ja que molts l'aprofitaríem si
millorés la utilització dels PDFs elitistes de la GenCat.


Narcis Garcia

El 17/2/21 a les 8:55, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda ha escrit:
> Bones,
> 
> 
> voldria aportar el meu granet de sorra al fil ja que a finals de l'any
> passat em vaig barallar bastant amb el tema.
> 
> Jo actualment, a Debian Buster, mitjançant el meu carnet de la UPC o el
> meu DNIe i un lector de targetes, puc:
> 
> * Signar un pdf amb l'Autofirma però només amb el carnet de la UPC.
> Autofirma (1.6.5) a GNU/Linux i MacOS actualment falla amb els nous DNIe
> per culpa de la mancança del certificat de la DGP. [1]
> 
> * Amb el Libreoffice puc veure (i validar) i signar un PDF. Però tinc
> deslocalitzades les instruccions. Espero poder-les trobar aviat.
> 
> * Amb el Firefox puc entrar "a la meva salut", als ajuntaments (Terrassa
> i Barcelona) i fer gestions.
> 
> * A la aoc.cat puc validar pdfs, però tenen un problema amb la
> plataforma GNU/Linux que no han resolt. Tiquet obert des del gener.
> 
> * Em sobta molt la manca d'ús del millor programa per veure pdfs que
> tenim a GNU/Linux que és l'Okular. Des de que el principal
> desenvolupador és local i això ja mereixeria tenir-lo en compte, fins
> que la versió de gener de 2021 pot signar pdfs i validar-los tal com far
> l'Acroread (versió disponible 21.04). La llàstima és que no entrarà a
> Bullseye ja que la versió del Poppler adequada no va entrar.
> 
> * Si algú li interessa, tinc pendent pujar-lo a les píndoles, però aquí
> hi ha el manual que vaig fer per configurar les coses. Manca la part del
> libreoffice.
> 
> https://gitioc.upc.edu/ioc/identitat_e/-/wikis/Targetes-a-GNU/Linux
> 
> Salutacions,
> 
> 
> Leopold
> 
> 
> [1] https://github.com/ctt-gob-es/clienteafirma/issues/145
> 
> 
> 
> El 16/2/21 a les 20:55, Narcis Garcia ha escrit:
>>>
>>> Aquesta és una de les coses que trobo que li falta al nostre Debian,
>>> un programa per omplir i signar els documents PDF que integren
>>> formularis.
>>>
>>> Avui dia aquests documents sembla que hi siguin per tot arreu i no
>>> veig la forma de poder-lo fer.
>>>
>>> El Evince (el lector que faig servir per mirar els PDF), no permet ni
>>> tan sols la verificació de signatures, això ho he resolt amb el
>>> autofirma, que si hi ha versió per Linux i permet signar i verificar.
>>>
>>> Salut!
>>>
>>> Javier
>>>
>>
>> Crec que amb l'Autofirma almenys ja hi ha una via consistent per a
>> signar i per a veure signatures. És clar que seria desitjable quelcom
>> més ben integrat al sistema.
>>
>> L'Evince permet veure, emplenar i desar formularis, però la majoria dels
>> de la Generalitat de Catalunya no.
>> Aquest tema suposo que és tant feixuc com l'Adobe Flash ho va ser, però
>> amb l'agravant d'una administració que se'n diu «oberta», i sovint
>> dificultant l'exercici dels drets de les persones.
>>
>> Jo d'aquesta tecnologia en diria una tecnologia-barrera, que aixeca nous
>> murs burocràtics amb els quals l'administració pública es protegeix de
>> nosaltres, les persones.
>>
> 
> 

Re: Validacions de formularis PDF per internet

[Narcis Garcia]

Comento que si t'instal·les el certificat digital al M. Firefox,
aleshores l'aplicació Autofirma l'utilitza d'allà, i ja no cal connectar
un lector de DNI.

Ara he provat l'Okular a Debian 10 i, a diferència de l'Evince, informa
d'allò que dóna problemes. Per exemple, aquesta versió informa que no
admet formularis XFA.
Funciona molt bé, tot i que la versió 17 que porta el repositori de
Debian (buster) no inclou el tema de signatura digital.
A veure si entra per a Debian 12 i aleshores al repositori
bullseye-backports.

Una altra alternativa seria que el desenvolupador l'empaquetés pel seu
compte per a Debian 11 (bullseye), ja que molts l'aprofitaríem si
millorés la utilització dels PDFs elitistes de la GenCat.



Narcis Garcia

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El 17/2/21 a les 8:55, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda ha escrit:
> Bones,
> 
> 
> voldria aportar el meu granet de sorra al fil ja que a finals de l'any
> passat em vaig barallar bastant amb el tema.
> 
> Jo actualment, a Debian Buster, mitjançant el meu carnet de la UPC o el
> meu DNIe i un lector de targetes, puc:
> 
> * Signar un pdf amb l'Autofirma però només amb el carnet de la UPC.
> Autofirma (1.6.5) a GNU/Linux i MacOS actualment falla amb els nous DNIe
> per culpa de la mancança del certificat de la DGP. [1]
> 
> * Amb el Libreoffice puc veure (i validar) i signar un PDF. Però tinc
> deslocalitzades les instruccions. Espero poder-les trobar aviat.
> 
> * Amb el Firefox puc entrar "a la meva salut", als ajuntaments (Terrassa
> i Barcelona) i fer gestions.
> 
> * A la aoc.cat puc validar pdfs, però tenen un problema amb la
> plataforma GNU/Linux que no han resolt. Tiquet obert des del gener.
> 
> * Em sobta molt la manca d'ús del millor programa per veure pdfs que
> tenim a GNU/Linux que és l'Okular. Des de que el principal
> desenvolupador és local i això ja mereixeria tenir-lo en compte, fins
> que la versió de gener de 2021 pot signar pdfs i validar-los tal com far
> l'Acroread (versió disponible 21.04). La llàstima és que no entrarà a
> Bullseye ja que la versió del Poppler adequada no va entrar.
> 
> * Si algú li interessa, tinc pendent pujar-lo a les píndoles, però aquí
> hi ha el manual que vaig fer per configurar les coses. Manca la part del
> libreoffice.
> 
> https://gitioc.upc.edu/ioc/identitat_e/-/wikis/Targetes-a-GNU/Linux
> 
> Salutacions,
> 
> 
> Leopold
> 
> 
> [1] https://github.com/ctt-gob-es/clienteafirma/issues/145
> 
> 
> 
> El 16/2/21 a les 20:55, Narcis Garcia ha escrit:
>>>
>>> Aquesta és una de les coses que trobo que li falta al nostre Debian,
>>> un programa per omplir i signar els documents PDF que integren
>>> formularis.
>>>
>>> Avui dia aquests documents sembla que hi siguin per tot arreu i no
>>> veig la forma de poder-lo fer.
>>>
>>> El Evince (el lector que faig servir per mirar els PDF), no permet ni
>>> tan sols la verificació de signatures, això ho he resolt amb el
>>> autofirma, que si hi ha versió per Linux i permet signar i verificar.
>>>
>>> Salut!
>>>
>>> Javier
>>>
>>
>> Crec que amb l'Autofirma almenys ja hi ha una via consistent per a
>> signar i per a veure signatures. És clar que seria desitjable quelcom
>> més ben integrat al sistema.
>>
>> L'Evince permet veure, emplenar i desar formularis, però la majoria dels
>> de la Generalitat de Catalunya no.
>> Aquest tema suposo que és tant feixuc com l'Adobe Flash ho va ser, però
>> amb l'agravant d'una administració que se'n diu «oberta», i sovint
>> dificultant l'exercici dels drets de les persones.
>>
>> Jo d'aquesta tecnologia en diria una tecnologia-barrera, que aixeca nous
>> murs burocràtics amb els quals l'administració pública es protegeix de
>> nosaltres, les persones.
>>
> 
> 

Re: networking.service fails

[Gary Dale]

On 2021-02-16 19:44, Dmitry Katsubo wrote:

Dear Debian community,

I am puzzled with the following problem. When my Debian 10.8 starts, the unit 
"networking.service" is
marked as failed with the following reason:

root@debian:~ # systemctl status networking.service
*— networking.service - Raise network interfaces
Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/networking.service; enabled; vendor 
preset: enabled)
Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Tue 2021-02-16 08:56:16 CET; 5h 
27min ago
  Docs: man:interfaces(5)
   Process: 691 ExecStart=/sbin/ifup -a --read-environment (code=exited, 
status=1/FAILURE)
  Main PID: 691 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)

however network is working just fine. I looked into 
/usr/lib/systemd/system/networking.service where

TimeoutStartSec=5min

and also set a big timeout for br0 in /etc/network/interfaces:

auto lo
auto eth0
auto eth1
iface lo inet loopback
auto br0
iface br0 inet static
 ...
 bridge_ports eth0 eth1
 bridge_maxwait 60

but still the error occurs each time. Relative dmesg logs are:

Feb 16 08:56:16 debian systemd[1]: Starting Raise network interfaces...
Feb 16 08:56:16 debian ifup[691]: ifup: unknown interface eth0
Feb 16 08:56:16 debian ifup[691]: ifup: unknown interface eth1
Feb 16 08:56:16 debian ifup[691]: Waiting for br0 to get ready (MAXWAIT is 60 
seconds).
Feb 16 08:56:16 debian systemd[1]: networking.service: Main process exited, 
code=exited, status=1/FAILURE
Feb 16 08:56:16 debian systemd[1]: networking.service: Failed with result 
'exit-code'.
Feb 16 08:56:16 debian systemd[1]: Failed to start Raise network interfaces.
Feb 16 08:56:16.113716 debian systemd-udevd[387]: Using default interface 
naming scheme 'v240'.
Feb 16 08:56:16.113796 debian systemd-udevd[387]: link_config: autonegotiation 
is unset or enabled, the speed and duplex are not writable.
Feb 16 08:56:16.113851 debian systemd-udevd[387]: Could not generate persistent 
MAC address for br0: No such file or directory
Feb 16 08:56:16.115750 debian kernel: bridge: filtering via arp/ip/ip6tables is 
no longer available by default. Update your scripts to load br_netfilter if you 
need this
Feb 16 08:56:16.115828 debian kernel: br0: port 1(eth0) entered blocking state
Feb 16 08:56:16.115875 debian kernel: br0: port 1(eth0) entered disabled state
Feb 16 08:56:16.115929 debian kernel: device eth0 entered promiscuous mode
Feb 16 08:56:16.119800 debian kernel: r8169 :02:00.0: firmware: 
direct-loading firmware rtl_nic/rtl8168g-2.fw
Feb 16 08:56:16.120198 debian kernel: Generic PHY r8169-200:00: attached PHY 
driver [Generic PHY] (mii_bus:phy_addr=r8169-200:00, irq=IGNORE)
Feb 16 08:56:16.251795 debian kernel: br0: port 2(eth1) entered blocking state
Feb 16 08:56:16.251990 debian kernel: br0: port 2(eth1) entered disabled state
Feb 16 08:56:16.391879 debian kernel: br0: port 1(eth0) entered blocking state
Feb 16 08:56:16.391913 debian kernel: br0: port 1(eth0) entered forwarding state
Feb 16 08:56:16.516862 debian systemd[1]: Starting Hostname Service...
Feb 16 08:56:16.539520 debian systemd[1]: networking.service: Main process 
exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE
Feb 16 08:56:16.539612 debian systemd[1]: networking.service: Failed with 
result 'exit-code'.
Feb 16 08:56:16.539994 debian systemd[1]: Failed to start Raise network 
interfaces.
Feb 16 08:56:16.671750 debian kernel: br0: port 3(wlan0) entered blocking state
Feb 16 08:56:16.671808 debian kernel: br0: port 3(wlan0) entered disabled state
Feb 16 08:56:16.671844 debian kernel: device wlan0 entered promiscuous mode
Feb 16 08:56:16.671878 debian kernel: br0: port 3(wlan0) entered blocking state
Feb 16 08:56:16.671912 debian kernel: br0: port 3(wlan0) entered forwarding 
state
Feb 16 08:56:16.683579 debian hostapd[879]: wlan0: interface state 
UNINITIALIZED->ENABLED
Feb 16 08:56:16.683579 debian hostapd[879]: wlan0: AP-ENABLED

Any ideas where can I take a look? Thanks in advance!



Debian/Busteris still using Network Manager not systemd to control the 
network so I think the network.service shouldn't be used.


I don't know how many interfaces you have but you seem to be using a 
bridge to at least one of them. The network bridge would bring up the 
physical interface. The physical interface should be listed in 
interfaces as something like:


    iface eth0 inet manual

The listing of eth0 and eth1 (and even br0) may be obsolete. Try doing 
ifconfig as root to see what interfaces are actually7 active (since you 
say the network is running). These days they are frequently something 
like enp4s0.

Re: awstats, how to see in a browser?

[Thomas Pircher]

Gene Heskett wrote:

apt/synaptic installed so I assume you mean /var/www etc


Hi Gene,

actually I meant the path part in the URL, so if you reach your web
server on localhost on the HTTP protocol, then the URL would be
http://localhost/cgi-bin/awstats.pl


ene@coyote:/var/www/cgi-bin$ ls -R


It looks like you have a lot of CGI scripts installed, so the only way
to find out how to reach the awstats page is to read the Apache
configuration.

First, check if you have /etc/apache2/conf-available/awstats.conf (as
described in /usr/share/doc/awstats/README.Debian.gz).
Further, is that config enabled? Does the symbolic link
/etc/apache2/conf-enabled/awstats.conf exist?

What is the content of that file?


ss -nlpt
A new to me command but:


Hmm, sorry, I should have said that you need to run this command as
root, otherwise you won't see all services, and it won't show you the
process name. `ss` is a replacement for the `netstat` command.

Thomas

Re: Conflicting alternatives

[tomas]

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 05:52:21PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:

[...]

> > I have the hunch that just making the packages co-installable is
> > the more pleasant avenue...
> 
> It's more pragmatic, but it won't solve the longer-term recurring issues.

I think I was too cryptic, sorry: I meant co-installable as, e.g.
PostgreSQL does with its different versions: you have to crack the
resources nut anyway, and then, what's the "alternatives" thing for,
anyway?

Alternatives make only sense in the presence of user interaction:
I invoke "vi" and get presented with whatever-incarnation-of-vi
is currently The One. I invoke "man vi", likewise. Still, I can
invoke (explicitly) "vim", "man vim".

What I meant by co-installable: both MTAs are up and running,
each one possibly with an own listening port [1], each one with
a different /var/spool//mail. Or something.
No alternatives.

Cheers

[1] Other avenues seem worth considering, i.e. some kind of
   protocol proxy which dispatches to the different MTAs
   based on first handshake steps, what not.

 - t


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