why go-mtpfs doesn't depend on fuse

[hlyg]

after installing go-mtpfs, i have to install fuse

i am running bookworm for i386

Re: RIP VIM

[Charles Plessy]

Le Mon, Aug 07, 2023 at 11:22:23AM +0200, ajh-valmer a écrit :
> 
> Sans le mode graphique, combien de fois VIM m'a sauvé,
> que j'ai remplacé par NANO car VIM à partir d'une nouvelle version 
> a du mal avec les copier/coller.

C'est un changement de configuration par défaut d'il y a quelques années.

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/318824/vim-cutpaste-not-working-in-stretch-debian-9

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/44389107/vimrc-not-accepting-mouse-a-command

Et quand on n'a pas pu changer la configuration, on peut appuyer sur
shift pendant qu'on utilise la souris pour copier-coller.

Bonne journée,

Charles

debian add mirror after installation

[Weijun Lu]

Hello.
When using the debian12 dvd disc for installation, choose to use network
mirroring in the mirroring step, but at this time the system network is
disconnected and the installation cannot continue.
When using the dvd installation disk, it is to complete the installation
quickly, but also want to install the system and configure the mirror
station for subsequent use.
1. Is there a way not to select the network mirror site in the installation
wizard, and reconfigure the network mirror site through dpkg-reconfig xxx
and other methods after the system installation is complete.
2. The installation wizard selects the network mirror site, but the actual
installation process uses the software package in the DVD disc.

Re: logging no longer standard?

[Max Nikulin]

On 08/08/2023 19:07, gene heskett wrote:
digikam for example, does report what I assume is the package name, just 
running it, reports a couple screens full of Exiv2 errors, but Exiv2 is 
installed.


I have an impression that properly built AppImage should come with all 
necessary libraries included and should not rely on packages installed 
in the system.


Your camera and EXIF parsing library may have different notion on EXIF 
tags format and allowed values. You may discuss whether the errors are 
critical with developers or packagers of the applications and to filter 
out these errors otherwise.

Re: logging no longer standard?

[Max Nikulin]

On 08/08/2023 09:57, gene heskett wrote:

Xsession: X session started for gene at Tue 27 Jun 2023 02:58:23 PM EDT

  ^^^
dbus-update-activation-environment: error: unable to connect to D-Bus: 
Failed to connect to socket /run/user/1000/bus: Connection refused


What fixes that?


These messages might be old, but they might mean that you broke D-Bus. 
Applications, especially self-containing packages, may heavily rely on 
its availability.


Try to figure out at which moment such messages appear. Try "busctl 
--user" and "busctl --user status" as a sanity check.

Re: logging no longer standard?

[gene heskett]

On 8/9/23 10:47, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:

gene heskett  wrote:

Someplace where an AppImage looking for a missing dependency might
express its displeasure at not finding everything it needs?


I've always thought that was a main advantage of starting anything from
the command line - there's an obvious place for the output - the
terminal.

.
And much of the time, the errors reported there seem to reference 
something that does not hit a search in synaptic. I've posted several 
kilobytes of that w/o getting a helpful comment.  Something along the 
lines of "oh, that's part of pkg so and so would be most helpful.


I'd say thank you if I had a name.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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 - Louis D. Brandeis
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Re: Gérer l'état d'un serveur avec update-alternatives

[Charles Plessy]

Le Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 08:34:46AM +0200, Olivier a écrit :
> 
> J'ai souvent besoin de coordonner la bascule simultanée de plusieurs
> liens symboliques quand je bascule un serveur d'un état "En
> préparation" à son état "En production" (ou réciproquement).

Si ce sont les seuls fichiers qui changent régulièrement et qu'ils sont
dans /etc, peut-être qu'utliser des branches Git avec etkeeper pourrait
être une piste?  Mais attention je n'ai jamais essayé :)

Librement,

-- 
Charles

Sound loses my analog speakers after suspend, and power settings don't affect monitor poweroff

[Carl Fink]

Hi,

I recently installed Debian Bookworm using the Mate environment.

I noticed that no matter what power settings I choose, the monitors 
never power off. The screensaver can lock the screen, but it then just 
stays on for many hours.


I have external analog speakers that I use, and also terrible, tinny 
speakers built into my HDMI monitor that i never use because they suck.


I suspended my system from the System menu Monday night. When I woke it 
up Tuesday morning, sound was coming from the HDMI monitor. The Sound 
Settings didn't know about any other sound system. I tried 
killing/restarting pulseaudio, but of course, Mate's seemingly-similar 
audio system was installed instead. I then uninstalled that and 
installed pulseaudio. This did not help. I had to reboot to get audio 
back through the speakers. This sort of defeats the point of suspending.


I suspended before leaving for the office today. When I came back, the 
sound system still didn't admit the existence of the analog speakers. I 
had to reboot again. Now "Analog Stereo Duplex" is there again.


Yes, I did try unplugging and replugging the speaker wire.

Please let me know what other information would help debug this problem. 
Also, should it become necessary, what packages would I report these 
bugs in? Perhaps, mate-power-manager and pulseaudio?


This is an ASUS PN53 small form-factor unit, if that helps any.

Thank you.

-Carl Fink

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

[songbird]

gene heskett wrote:
...
> I load up a file I want to 3d print in cura, slice it into gcode, click 
> on save to disk. kde gets in the way so it opens a tab on the toolbar at 
> the bottom of the screen and to continue I have to click on that tab. 
> 20% of the time the where do you want to save it requester pops up 
> instantly but 80% of the time the whole workspace freezes for 2 minutes. 
> Eventually the save requester pops up and life goes on at normal speeds 
> I have the thought that both occurrences are different exhibits of the 
> same access problem. But thats just a WAG. The commonality is both apps 
> are AppImages, and my /home is a raid.  Is there a connection? w/o logs, 
> how can I tell.  There are no "user" logs.

  as i may have said before.  whatever you have going on
with file saving and file system access may be getting
stomped all over by whatever settings you have in the KDE
desktop or the particular application.  so one thing i
would do for sure is make sure that the KDE desktop file
extension associations that may be turned on to do anything
automatically are turned off (until you resolve where the
issue actually resides).

  once you have the KDE desktop stuff turned off then you
can at least know it isn't that which is mucking you up.

  from there is it some other thing?  well, if it now 
works then you've solved it, and if it hasn't been solved
then you've at least eliminated one variable.

  from there if it still does not work then you are up 
against any automatic automounter crap (which i find a
PITA so i remove it or find ways to turn it off which
then gets through another layer of possible variables).

  after that you should be down to the applcation and
what settings it has for dealing with file and accesses
and again i turn off all automatic stuff i can there to
make sure exactly what i'm trying to do can get done with
minimal interference.

  since you have network stuff going on which i hardly
ever do and i also don't do bluethooth, samba, ssh, rpc 
(or plenty of other things) well then you're going to
have to wade through those things and see what each may 
let you do to narrow down where the issue is at.

  when you have a complicated system it may be well 
worth it to set up a blank slate new machine and put in
each layer and test it before adding the next to see
which step is going kerblooey.  if i'm running a 
production system this is a natural and common 
procedure for any upgrade and debugging.  gotta have a
way to do tests that doesn't shut down production.


  songbird

Re: /etc/resolv.conf changes every booting time

[songbird]

Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
...
> He just told you to not hijack threads, and there you go and your 
> immediate reply is to start talking about something completely unrelated 
> to the rest of the discussion.

  oops, sorry, i just replied again.


  songbird

Re: apt-key is deprecated

[Lamourec Alain]

Tu fais apt-key list en root

ça te donne la liste de tes clés :
comme dans l'exemple
/etc/apt/trusted.gpg
pub   rsa1024 2012-04-01 [SC]
 A0DA 38D0 D76E 8B5D 6388  7281 9165 938D 1378 B444
uid  [ inconnue] Launchpad PPA for Libreoffice Packaging

Tu recherches toutes celles qui sont dans /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
Puis tu les mets dans le dossier trusted.gpg.d
apt-key export 1378B444 | gpg --dearmour -o 
/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/Libreoffice.gpg


en prenant comme dans l'exemple 1378B444 pour les 8 chiffres de 
l'empreinte
et tu lui donnes le nom que tu veux, Libreoffice.gpg dans 
l'exemple


"ajh-valmer-free"  writes:


On Wednesday 09 August 2023 12:57:23 B. GRANDHOMME wrote:

Ce site doit pouvoir t'aider
www.numetopia.fr/comment-corriger-lavertissement-apt-key-is-deprecated/

Le 2023-08-09T12:27:51.000+02:00, ajh-valmer-free a écrit :
> Après un apt update, je reçois ce message :
> "Warning: apt-key is deprecated. 
> Manage keyring files in trusted.gpg.d instead (see apt-key(8))"
> Les howtos me sont abscons.


Merci,
j'avais vu ce howto, trop abscons pour moi.

Voici le message reçu après apt update :
"http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.1.x/dists/
bookworm/InRelease: Key is stored in legacy trusted.gpg keyring 
(/etc/apt/trusted.gpg), see the DEPRECATION section in apt-key".


Désolé, je n'arrive pas à remplacer les expressions génériques :
wget -O- 
https://depot.example.net/debian/. | sudo 
gpg --dearmor --yes --output 
/usr/share/keyrings/-archive-keyring.gpg :

- depot.example.net
- 
- 
- 



--
Lamourec Alain

Re: bash $MAIL bug in Bookworm

[tomas]

On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 04:04:12PM +0100, Alain D D Williams wrote:
> I have recently upgraded to Bookworm.
> 
> I have set:
> 
>   MAIL=/var/spool/mail/addw
>   MAILCHECK=60
> 
> I find that when doing filename expansion, by pressing TAB, that the 'You have
> mail' message appears when it should not. In the example below I pressed TAB
> after the letter 'T' (which gave me expansion 'TODO'). I am running bash.
> 
>   $ me TYou have mail in /var/spool/mail/addw
>   ODO

You can always look for bugs filed against a package in the package's bug
page. In this case, this would be here [1].

Your bug looks a lot like this one [2]. It seems to be pretty old (2012),
so you might consider politely pinging the maintainer.

Cheers

[1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=bash
[2] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=686794

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bash $MAIL bug in Bookworm

[Alain D D Williams]

I have recently upgraded to Bookworm.

I have set:

MAIL=/var/spool/mail/addw
MAILCHECK=60

I find that when doing filename expansion, by pressing TAB, that the 'You have
mail' message appears when it should not. In the example below I pressed TAB
after the letter 'T' (which gave me expansion 'TODO'). I am running bash.

$ me TYou have mail in /var/spool/mail/addw
ODO

Should I report this elsewhere ?

Regards

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Lecturer.
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Re: logging no longer standard?

[debian-user]

gene heskett  wrote:
> Someplace where an AppImage looking for a missing dependency might
> express its displeasure at not finding everything it needs?

I've always thought that was a main advantage of starting anything from
the command line - there's an obvious place for the output - the
terminal.

Re: logging no longer standard?

[songbird]

gene heskett wrote:
>songbird wrote:
... 
>>man journald.conf...
>
> I've looked at that, even looked at the file.  It is all systemd 
> related, no mention of user stuffs.  Its as if a 3 meter tall board 
> fence has been built around the systemd stuff that user apps can't get thru.

  no, i was just pointing out that i find the combined logs 
of systemd a lot easier to deal with as root instead of trying
to look at them as a user and having them broken apart.  for a
simple system that i run it makes little sense to complicate
things by having separate logs in systemd journal.


> Glaringly missing is anything related to something the user might want 
> to do.  So where is an equal facility for user stuffs?  Someplace where 
> an AppImage looking for a missing dependency might express its 
> displeasure at not finding everything it needs?

  i'm light years behind App[Anything].  once you mix up
what a system is doing then that adds yet more complexity
which like i mentioned above i tend to not do if i can 
help it.

  IMO once you've started installing things from a vendor's
repository you've then got to figure out how that integrates
or not with your package management system.  the most of
that which i do here is in Python and i use virtual 
environments to try to isolate the problem children to where
i hope they won't mess up the rest of my Python install.  so
far that seems to be working as intended.

  i'm sorry i can't help much...


  songbird

Re: apt-key is deprecated

[ajh-valmer-free]

On Wednesday 09 August 2023 12:57:23 B. GRANDHOMME wrote:
> Ce site doit pouvoir t'aider
>www.numetopia.fr/comment-corriger-lavertissement-apt-key-is-deprecated/
> 
> Le 2023-08-09T12:27:51.000+02:00, ajh-valmer-free a écrit :
> > Après un apt update, je reçois ce message :
> > "Warning: apt-key is deprecated. 
> > Manage keyring files in trusted.gpg.d instead (see apt-key(8))"
> > Les howtos me sont abscons.

Merci,
j'avais vu ce howto, trop abscons pour moi.

Voici le message reçu après apt update :
"http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.1.x/dists/
bookworm/InRelease: Key is stored in legacy trusted.gpg keyring 
(/etc/apt/trusted.gpg), see the DEPRECATION section in apt-key".

Désolé, je n'arrive pas à remplacer les expressions génériques :
wget -O- https://depot.example.net/debian/. | sudo 
gpg --dearmor --yes --output /usr/share/keyrings/-archive-keyring.gpg :
- depot.example.net
- 
- 
- 

Re: Raspbian: After update from buster to bookworm, X11Forwarding in ssh connection stopped working

[B.M.]

On Montag, 7. August 2023 16:33:26 CEST you wrote:
> On Montag, 7. August 2023 15:19:49 CEST you wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I just dist-upgraded my Raspberry Pi from buster to bookworm, and while
> >
> > ssh -Y...
> >
> > worked like a charm in before the update and I could start any X11 program
> > over ssh, it doesn't work anymore since then. Executing
> >
> > ssh -Y -C -l myUser otherHostname.local -v
> >
> > I get
> >
> > ...
> > debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing.
> > debug1: Sending environment.
> > debug1: channel 0: setting env LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
> > debug1: channel 0: setting env LC_MONETARY = "de_CH.UTF-8"
> > debug1: channel 0: setting env LC_MEASUREMENT = "de_CH.UTF-8"
> > debug1: channel 0: setting env LC_TIME = "de_CH.UTF-8"
> > debug1: channel 0: setting env LC_ALL = ""
> > debug1: channel 0: setting env LC_COLLATE = "C"
> > debug1: channel 0: setting env LC_NUMERIC = "de_CH.UTF-8"
> > X11 forwarding request failed on channel 0
> > ...
> >
> > From /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the server:
> >
> > AddressFamily inet
> > X11Forwarding yes
> > X11UseLocalhost no
> >
> > Interestingly, when connecting for the first time I got a warning:
> > WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!
> > and I did just
> > ssh-keygen -f "/home/xxx/.ssh/known_hosts" -R "otherHostname"
> > which I did.
> >
> > xauth is installed on the server.
> >
> > What can be the reason, that I cannot use X11 forwarding anymore?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Best,
> > Bernd
>
> Sorry, correction: I didn't upgrade from buster to bookworm but from
> bullseye.

Just for the record: I could solve the problem, and it was sitting somewhere
else...

It's a Raspberry Pi running Raspbian with full sd card encryption, and
headless. Therefore there is dropbear used as small ssh server during boot
(built into initramfs), later ssh-server is used. After the update, dropbear
was also running and my connections where to dropbear, not sshd. Disabling
dropbear therefore solved the problem and my configuration of sshd was
perfectly fine.

Re: Después de actualizar no arranca «entorno gráfico» de forma automática

[Camaleón]

El 2023-08-09 a las 12:45 +0200, aa ag escribió:


> 

Arrghhh

> Pues en principio parece que lightdm est activado y 
> configurado, no hay paquetes rotos ni en principio problemas de dependencias.
> 
> 
> As que sigo indagando...

Revisa los registros por si te dieran alguna pista de dónde viene el 
problema (~/.xsession-errors, /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log, 
/var/log/Xorg.0.log...)

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón 

Re: apt-key is deprecated

[B. GRANDHOMME]

Bonjour,

Ce site doit pouvoir t'aider

https://www.numetopia.fr/comment-corriger-lavertissement-apt-key-is-deprecated/

Le 2023-08-09T12:27:51.000+02:00, ajh-valmer-free 
a écrit :

> Bonjour,
> 
> Après un apt update, je reçois ce message :
> 
> "Warning: apt-key is deprecated. 
> 
> Manage keyring files in trusted.gpg.d instead (see apt-key(8))"
> 
> Les howtos me sont abscons.
> 
> Merci d'une aide.
> 
> Bonne journée

Re: Después de actualizar no arranca «entorno gráfico» de forma automática

[aa ag]

Gracias por las sugerencias.

 

Pues en principio parece que «lightdm» está activado y configurado, no hay paquetes rotos ni en principio problemas de dependencias.

 

Así que sigo indagando...

 

Un saludo.


 
 

Enviar: martes 8 de agosto de 2023 a las 20:57
De: "aa ag" 
Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Asunto: Después de actualizar no arranca «entorno gráfico» de forma automática



Buenas.


Me ocurre que después de una actualización de Debian 12 (testing), al arrancar, ya no me arranca en «entorno gráfico» de forma directa-automática, sino que me arranca en modo de «terminal getty».

Desde ahí puedo arrancar «startx» el entorno gráfico, pero no he dado con la manera de arrancar directamente a entorno gráfico.

 

También, si cierro sesión voy a terminal getty...

 

Sé que se actualizó «ligthdm» pero no he visto por donde va el tema.

 

Alguna sugerencia?
Gracias y un saludo.

apt-key is deprecated

[ajh-valmer-free]

Bonjour,

Après un apt update, je reçois ce message :

"Warning: apt-key is deprecated. 
Manage keyring files in trusted.gpg.d instead (see apt-key(8))"

Les howtos me sont abscons.
Merci d'une aide.

Bonne journée

FFMPEG ?

[ptilou]

Bonjour,

Je lis :
ffmpeg est un convertisseur vidéo et audio très rapide qui peut également 
récupérer à partir d'un fichier audio/vidéo en direct
la source. Il peut également convertir entre des taux d'échantillonnage 
arbitraires et redimensionner la vidéo à la volée
avec un filtre polyphasé de haute qualité.

sur un site qui propose d'executer style AWS, une distribution Linux , 
quelqu'un connait une avec Debian ?
(onworks[dot]net/fr/programs/ffmpeg-all-online?amp=0)

Et en plus comme pour Canon, le rendu image/video donne quoi ? 
Y a t'il une amélioration concrete ?

J'ai une IA qui me veillit les personnes donc améliorer la qualité c'est pas 
plus facile sous Debian ?
( Je ne sais pas si l'IA est libre ?)

Sinon en proposition d'amelioration je vien de me rendre comptze que les 
panorama, si les images ne se suivent pas , çà ne le fait pas automatiquement ( 
j'en ai deja parlé il me semble), je viens de me rendre compte que le timers 
des images est trés proche, donc peut etre ameliorer de ce cote la creation par 
"IA" de panorama de façon auto ?

merci

-- 
Ptilou

Re: Debian Bookworm en Cyrus? Stap nog ff niet over

[Cecil Westerhof]

Paul van der Vlis  writes:

> Mocht niemand met een goed idee komen dan ga ik Cyrus maar installeren
> op een machine die geen mail nodig heeft, alleen voor het lezen van de 
> documentatie.

Eh, waarom niet gewoon:
# apt install cyrus-doc

Dat geeft:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  cyrus-doc
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 305 kB of archives.
After this operation, 1,202 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 https://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye/main amd64 cyrus-doc all 
3.2.6-2+deb11u2 [305 kB]
Fetched 305 kB in 0s (2,012 kB/s)
Selecting previously unselected package cyrus-doc.
(Reading database ... 401096 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../cyrus-doc_3.2.6-2+deb11u2_all.deb ...
Unpacking cyrus-doc (3.2.6-2+deb11u2) ...
Setting up cyrus-doc (3.2.6-2+deb11u2) ...
Scanning processes...

-- 
Cecil Westerhof
Senior Software Engineer
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Re: Gérer l'état d'un serveur avec update-alternatives

[Michel Verdier]

Le 9 août 2023 Olivier a écrit :

> Que pensez-vous d'utiliser le programme update-alternatives (que je
> connais très mal) et ses sbires pour cela ?

Les alternatives sont là pour permettre de changer de paquet pour un
fichier donné, par exemple le shell, ou pour une version donnée. Donc ça
concerne les versions ou le choix des paquets installés.
Ta notion préparation/production me semble s'écarter un peu de ça.
Ou alors si tu as des paquets -prep et des paquets -prod ?
Tu peux donner un exemple de ce que tu gères avec cette différence
préparation/production ?

Re: Después de actualizar no arranca «entorno gráfico» de forma automática

[Camaleón]

El 2023-08-08 a las 20:57 +0200, aa ag escribió:

Arghh... formato html >:-(

> Buenas.
> 
>
> Me ocurre que despus de una actualizacin de Debian 12 
> (testing), al arrancar, ya no me arranca en entorno 
> grfico de forma directa-automtica, sino que me arranca 
> en modo de terminal getty.

(...)

Asegúrate de que el servicio «lightdm» y sus dependencias están 
configurados para iniciarse al arrancar el sistema.

Lo más sencillo, probar con «systemctl enable lightdm».

Si no funciona, intenta reconfigurar el paquete con «dpkg-reconfigure 
lightdm».

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón 

Gérer l'état d'un serveur avec update-alternatives

[Olivier]

Bonjour,

J'ai souvent besoin de coordonner la bascule simultanée de plusieurs
liens symboliques quand je bascule un serveur d'un état "En
préparation" à son état "En production" (ou réciproquement).

Dans l'état "En préparation", j'ai l'application toto qui doit
utiliser le fichier prep.configtoto.conf et l'application foo qui
utilise le fichier prep.configfoo.cfg.

Dans l'état "En production", ces applications utilisent respectivement
les fichiers prod.configtoto.conf et prod.configfoo.cfg.

Outre les modifications de lien symbolique, la bascule d'un état à
l'autre exige le re-démarrage d'un service ou un simplment
rechargement d'un autre.


Que pensez-vous d'utiliser le programme update-alternatives (que je
connais très mal) et ses sbires pour cela ?

Slts