Resolu: Question de Noël
Bonjour merci à vous, alors pour moi ce sera plus tard étant sous xfce avec un voeux PC portable. François-Marie Le 25/12/2023 à 14:46, Lamourec Alain a écrit : Bonjour Tout dépend de ton environnement de bureau : gnome -> oui kde -> oui xfce -> non Informatique BILLARD writes: Bonjour à toutes et tous, en ce jour de Noêl je lis quelques pages sur Wayland le remplaçant de X11. Et la une question émerge, peut-on sans trop de risque de dysfonctionnement installer wayland sous debian 12 . Merci François-Marie
Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...
Hi,
Albretch Mueller wrote:
> But how do you strace a program saving the output (of the stracing)
> in a logfile while you also save that program's output without making
> it part of the stracing?
man strace says:
-o filename Write the trace output to the file filename rather
than to stderr.
So strace normally directs its output to stderr. That's file descriptor 2.
You can redirect it by the "2>file" gesture of the shell:
$ strace echo hello 2>file
hello
$ cat file
execve("/bin/echo", ["echo"], [/* 35 vars */]) = 0
brk(0) = 0x13ba000
...
exit_group(0) = ?
+++ exited with 0 +++
Or you may use the mentioned -o option which will keep the tracee's stderr
out of the file:
$ strace -o file echo hello
hello
$ cat file
...
Have a nice day :)
Thomas
Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...
On 12/25/23, Greg Wooledge wrote: > If you want to see what a process is doing, there's strace. It can > even be told to follow all the children of a process (strace -f). But how do you strace a program saving the output (of the stracing) in a logfile while you also save that program's output without making it part of the stracing? Say you go: $ strace -f wget --help You can clearly see the output of "wget --help" tailgated as part of the stracing (which, of course, you can parse out), but I want two separate log files. One for the stracing and the other for the actual output of that program you ran. I found some posts suggesting that to be possible, but I couldn't get it right: https://serverfault.com/questions/205498/how-to-get-pid-of-just-started-process https://askubuntu.com/questions/137233/how-to-command-ping-display-time-and-date-of-ping/867500#867500 lbrtchx
Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...
On 26/12/23 10:05, Jeffrey Walton wrote: I don't know why Z was used instead of UTC or GMT. Probably to save space, and save some ink if a schedule was printed. ZULU time is military, primarily NATO. The world is divided up into alphabetic time zones using the NATO phonetic alphabet with a few exceptions like India (the letter) Being extremely pedantic, GMT and UT and UTC are all slightly different, UT and UTC particularly. GMT is now tied to UT. UTC is more precise than UT/GMT
Re: cups error -- SOLVED
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 09:36:44PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: I copied the file to another computer in the LAN, ran LaTeX and dvips, and sent it to the same printer, but the file hung at the same spot. Any chance you can use `pdflatex` instead of `latex + dvips`? Have you tried to manually convert the PS to PDF before sending to the printer? or to convert straight from DVI to PDF? Nowadays PS is becoming a curiosity, so you may have better luck with PDF (there's a chance the problem is unrelated, of course). The PDF file produced with pdflatex hung at the same point as did the PS file produced with dvips. The PDF file produced with dvipdfm printed the entire file properly. Many thanks! RLH
Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...
Jeff writes: > I don't know why Z was used instead of UTC or GMT. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time#Time_zones -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA
Re: cups error
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 09:36:44PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: I copied the file to another computer in the LAN, ran LaTeX and dvips, and sent it to the same printer, but the file hung at the same spot. Any chance you can use `pdflatex` instead of `latex + dvips`? Have you tried to manually convert the PS to PDF before sending to the printer? or to convert straight from DVI to PDF? Nowadays PS is becoming a curiosity, so you may have better luck with PDF (there's a chance the problem is unrelated, of course). Thanks for the suggestion. I am a dinosaur; I have been running Debian since A.D.2000, and I have done things pretty much as I was taught by the guru who got me running. Are you saying that I can print to a printer which does not have PostScript? (All of my printers, which now are quite old, have PostScript.) P.S. I remember using LPR and the switch to LPRNG, and then the switch to CUPS. And now driverless CUPS. RLH
Re: cups error
> I copied the file to another computer in the LAN, ran LaTeX and dvips, > and sent it to the same printer, but the file hung at the same spot. Any chance you can use `pdflatex` instead of `latex + dvips`? Have you tried to manually convert the PS to PDF before sending to the printer? or to convert straight from DVI to PDF? Nowadays PS is becoming a curiosity, so you may have better luck with PDF (there's a chance the problem is unrelated, of course). Stefan
Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 8:43 PM Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > On Mon Dec 25 12:01:59 2023 "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > > > Yes - that's the obvious way. I set my machines to /etc/UTC (or > > /etc/GMT) and leave them there. No daylight saving time, no offsets - > > all logs unambiguous. That's why (worldwide) radio logkeeping is/was > > in UTC. If you're travelling in an aircraft, you don't _need_ to know > > ground time but you do need to know flight time against a reference > > time. The Royal Air Force keep to UTC wherever they are in the world > > for just this reason. > > Not just the RAF. All aviation works in UTC, to avoid problems when > flights cross time zone boundaries, and to keep wide-area weather > forecasts sane. Your average airline passenger never sees UTC, > since airlines use it behind the scenes and convert it to local time > for display purposes. (That's why you can see some strange intervals > between departure and arrival times.) The US airlines I worked for in the late 1980s and 1990s used Zulu time. If I recall correctly, flight arrivals and departures were specified like 10:34Z or 23:10Z. I don't know why Z was used instead of UTC or GMT. Probably to save space, and save some ink if a schedule was printed. I don't know if that is still the case. Jeff
cups error
On a desktop debian 12.2 amd64 system with HP_LaserJet_P3010_Series_48E436 (ethernet), LaTeX documents composed with Emacs frequently print only up to a certain point (it varies with the document), and CUPS prints the error message: ERROR: typecheck OFFENDING COMMAND: known xdvi displays the document perfectly in its entirety. I copied the file to another computer in the LAN, ran LaTeX and dvips, and sent it to the same printer, but the file hung at the same spot. One time I was able to recover by cutting the section at which printing hung and pasting from another document. I have searched the Web but have not found a solution. RLH
Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...
On Mon Dec 25 12:01:59 2023 "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > Yes - that's the obvious way. I set my machines to /etc/UTC (or > /etc/GMT) and leave them there. No daylight saving time, no offsets - > all logs unambiguous. That's why (worldwide) radio logkeeping is/was > in UTC. If you're travelling in an aircraft, you don't _need_ to know > ground time but you do need to know flight time against a reference > time. The Royal Air Force keep to UTC wherever they are in the world > for just this reason. Not just the RAF. All aviation works in UTC, to avoid problems when flights cross time zone boundaries, and to keep wide-area weather forecasts sane. Your average airline passenger never sees UTC, since airlines use it behind the scenes and convert it to local time for display purposes. (That's why you can see some strange intervals between departure and arrival times.) As a side note, a similar dichotomy applies to airport designators; passengers and baggage handlers only see the three-letter IATA codes (e.g. YYZ for Toronto), while flight plans are filed using the 4-letter ICAO codes (e.g. CYYZ for Toronto). For the most part, Canadian ICAO codes are the IATA code with a C in front, and American ICAO codes are the IATA code with a K in front - but there are exceptions. And ICAO codes cover all registered airports, not just those with scheduled airline service. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Life is perverse. \ /| It can be beautiful - X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | but it won't. / \ if you read it the right way. |-- Lily Tomlin
Re: single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 12:35:37PM -0600, Mike McClain wrote: > root@RPI4b3:~> tty; echo $SHELL; echo "' " | hd For the record, $SHELL does not tell you what shell you're currently in. It tells you which login shell your account uses, or which shell you'd *like* to use when you launch a new xterm (et al.) or when you shell-escape from programs that offer this feature. To see what shell you're currently in, try: ps -p $$ > As this demonstrates, I get single quotes in bash in a VT but not in X. But you DO get single-quotes in jed in X, or in dash in X?
Re: single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal
root@RPI4b3:~> tty; echo $SHELL; echo "' " | hd /dev/tty1 /bin/bash 27 20 0a |' .| 0003 mike@RPI4b3:~> tty; echo $SHELL; echo "' " | hd /dev/tty6 /bin/bash 27 20 0a |' .| 0003 mike@RPI4b3:~> tty; echo $SHELL; echo " " | hd /dev/pts/1 /bin/bash 20 0a | .| 0002 The above in a lxterminal window. mike@RPI4b3:~> tty; echo $SHELL; echo " " | hd /dev/pts/6 /bin/bash 20 0a | .| 0002 The above in an term window. As this demonstrates, I get single quotes in bash in a VT but not in X. I see the same whether beforre or after executing 'setxkbmap -layout us'. Suggestions for further exploration? Merry Christmas, Mike -- Under capitalism man exploits man; under socialism the reverse is true' - Polish Proverb.
Re: how to clone apt repository to newest only?
As Andrew did, I also CC'd.. :) On 12/25/23, 이 강우 wrote: > how to clone apt repository to newest only? > Fedora/Red Hat will organize the repository by copying only the most recent > packages from that distribution if you give it the "reposync --newest-only" > option, but Debian doesn't seem to be able to do that. > > What can I do? Hi.. This is Draft Email #2 for me for this thread. The first email is very long. I chopped off all of the tips and am only focusing on the following questions for now. Am starting this time with an apt query: $ apt-cache search reposync Got a potential hit! The package is called dnf-plugins-core. It looks interesting (to me). Its description is: Description-en: Core plugins for DNF, the Dandified Yum package manager This package enhances DNF with builddep, config-manager, copr, debug, debuginfo-install, download, needs-restarting, groups-manager, repoclosure, repograph, repomanage, reposync, changelog and repodiff commands. It's the only package that references reposync. I'll be downloading and poking at it as a personal Debian development learning adventure by comparing it to wget and rsync as referenced further below. If dnf-plugins-core does not work for some reason, here are some questions that might help Debian Users help you What are you actually trying to do? Might also be asked as.. what were you doing in the past? What exact command(s) were you using? Internet searching on "reposync" alone makes it look like you're trying to do what I have found that wget does. It worked for an LS (Linux From Scratch) short webpage of only links today. Wget also worked on a Debian repository related webpage that included child directories. Running "man rsync" references "URL" a few times, too, but I've not been successful with it in the past. This thread is a reminder of that feature so I'll be playing with it again later. It's always good to know more than one way to accomplish all Linux tasks. :) My other questions that will help Debian Users help you are. Which Debian directory are you asking about? Or is it even tied to debian(dot)org? If you're [pinging] a webpage that is not Debian and it's not too personal, what webpage are you trying to sync? A #1 question I have is... Where are the files you are trying to duplicate (the source files), and where are you duplicating those to (the intended target directory/destination)? Another way to ask that is: Are you duplicating from one personal computer to another, or are you trying to pull from an online Internet server's repository to download onto a personal computer? Or are you maybe even trying to do yet something else that is not mentioned above? Your answer(s) might make a difference in the command and flags you could use. As an example, that massively long Draft Email #1 I wrote earlier included this useful tip I just learned for my own usage today: $ wget -c --recursive --no-parent https://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/downloads/development/ That lead came from StackOverflow: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/273743/using-wget-to-recursively-fetch-a-directory-with-arbitrary-files-in-it Just test drove it, and it did work as hoped. That "--no-parent" is telling wget to focus only on the current directory, e.g. for me the LFS "development" download webpage along with any possible child directories found there. Be aware that there can still be some extra junk come in, depending on what webpage is being tapped. The more text content and less HTML, the better. Wget does work as expected, does keep digging into child directories, too, because I just tested a Debian repository related webpage under /debian/dists. That's all I have for now. Just let us know... An aside to wget and rsync Developers: Thank you for your work! Between the two of your packages, it's a multi-times daily thing going on between us. Cindy :) -- Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * runs with a jingle-jingle *
Re: llenguatge de l'IU del Firefox
2023-12-25, 11:27 (+0100); Manuel Fauvell escriu: > A mí m'ha passat alguna vegada una cosa pareguda. Normalment es perquè > el locals no s'ha generat correctament. > > Per provar que costa poc: > > dpkg-reconfigure locales > > I a vore que passe. Gràcies a tots per les idees... s'ha solucionat, però no estic segur com. Sembla que ha sigut sortint de la sessió i tornant a entrar. Salutacions
Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 03:35:04PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 12/21/23, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > So... this is interesting. Apparently timedatectl doesn't simply look > > at the target of /etc/localtime. There's a DELAY before the value is > > correctly reported. This tells me that timedatectl is in communication > > with some process (perhaps PID 1, I don't know), and this other process > > only discovers that /etc/localtime has changed after some time has passed. > > Is it *polling*? I have no idea, but that's what it looks like. > > This thread has taken a life of its own and I have learned quite a > bit from our back and forth. This is not how I intuitively thought it > worked. I thought you had to actively ask the OS to update itself ... > Now I am interested in learning all there is to be learned from this > whole time keeping methodology and how it relates to systemd and the > boot process. Be sure to read the other responses to that message. There's a weird timing issue caused by the fact that running "timedatectl" triggers a service process to run, unless one is already running. This service process only stays running for 30 seconds, and it only reads the /etc/localtime symlink when it starts up. So, if you've already got one running, it won't pick up a changed /etc/localtime. But if you wait until the current one dies, then the *next* one will. I have no idea why this subsystem was designed to work this way. It seems awkward to me, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now -- there's probably *some* reason to do it this way, even if it's not immediately clear to me. > Is there a way to start the Linux kernel of a Debian Live running > instance enabling you to log the whole process (in a more in depth way > than dmesg) and then go "follow tcp" for each listed process in dmesg > as you do with wireshark? If you want to see what a process is doing, there's strace. It can even be told to follow all the children of a process (strace -f).
Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...
On 12/21/23, Greg Wooledge wrote: > So... this is interesting. Apparently timedatectl doesn't simply look > at the target of /etc/localtime. There's a DELAY before the value is > correctly reported. This tells me that timedatectl is in communication > with some process (perhaps PID 1, I don't know), and this other process > only discovers that /etc/localtime has changed after some time has passed. > Is it *polling*? I have no idea, but that's what it looks like. This thread has taken a life of its own and I have learned quite a bit from our back and forth. This is not how I intuitively thought it worked. I thought you had to actively ask the OS to update itself ... Now I am interested in learning all there is to be learned from this whole time keeping methodology and how it relates to systemd and the boot process. Is there a way to start the Linux kernel of a Debian Live running instance enabling you to log the whole process (in a more in depth way than dmesg) and then go "follow tcp" for each listed process in dmesg as you do with wireshark? lbrtchx
Re: single quote "'" in bash xterm or lxterminal
On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 11:31:09PM -0600, Mike McClain wrote: > I've examined /etc/inputrc, .inputrc, /etc/bash.bashrc, ~/.bashrc, > /etc/profile, /etc/profile.d/*, ~/.profile, ~/.bash_profile, OK, you've examined them... and... what did you *see* in them? When did this problem start to happen, and which of these files were edited right before then? Oh, and just for additional data: if you start a terminal, and then run "dash" (or any other shell that isn't bash), does the problem go away, or does it still happen? (I'm pretty sure it'll go away, same as it does when you run "jed", but it's good to verify.)
Re: how to clone apt repository to newest only?
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 12:21:29PM +, �� wrote: [Copied to the poster because they may not be subscribed] > how to clone apt repository to newest only? > Fedora/Red Hat will organize the repository by copying only the most recent > packages from that distribution if you give it the "reposync --newest-only" > option, but Debian doesn't seem to be able to do that. > > What can I do? > > Hi By default, apt will check the dates on the package manifests and bring you up to date based on that. If you install from nothing then the installer will do the same assuming that you have an internet connection. reposync is really a Red Hat ecosystem specific command, I think. (already answered on the list: can I suggest that you subscribe to the list) Andy (amaca...@debian.org)
how to clone apt repository to newest only?
how to clone apt repository to newest only? Fedora/Red Hat will organize the repository by copying only the most recent packages from that distribution if you give it the "reposync --newest-only" option, but Debian doesn't seem to be able to do that. What can I do?
Re: Question de Noël
Bonjour Tout dépend de ton environnement de bureau : gnome -> oui kde -> oui xfce -> non Informatique BILLARD writes: Bonjour à toutes et tous, en ce jour de Noêl je lis quelques pages sur Wayland le remplaçant de X11. Et la une question émerge, peut-on sans trop de risque de dysfonctionnement installer wayland sous debian 12 . Merci François-Marie -- Lamourec Alain
Re: Question de Noël
Le 25/12/2023 à 10:52, Informatique BILLARD a écrit : Bonjour à toutes et tous, en ce jour de Noêl je lis quelques pages sur Wayland le remplaçant de X11. Et la une question émerge, peut-on sans trop de risque de dysfonctionnement installer wayland sous debian 12 . Bonjour, Quand tu installes Debian avec un bureau, par défaut c'est Gnome avec les serveurs Wayland et Xorg. Par défaut toujours, Sous Debian de nos jours, Gnome est lancé sous Wayland (mais on peut changer pour Xorg dans le menu GDM) Donc globalement pas de dysfonctionnement avec Wayland si on emploie un bureau vraiment prévu pour (Gnome, peut-être KDE de nos jours (je connais mal)). Je pense que les anciens problèmes d'accès de bureau à distance (télémaintenance) sous Wayland sont globalement résolus mais ça mérite d'être testé avant une éventuelle migration vers Wayland
Re: Dealing with SPAM.
Hi,
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> [...] (it's actually a logistic function [1]).
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistic_function
> Looking forward to Yet Another Of Those Nerdy Monster Threads ;-)
Since it's happening periodically with about the same participants,
shouldn't we rather try to model it as hysteresis ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysteresis
("Not to be confused with Hysteria.")
Have a nice day :)
Thomas
Re: Dealing with SPAM.
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 11:19:43AM +0100, Marco Moock wrote: > Am 25.12.2023 um 08:56:41 Uhr schrieb Brad Rogers: > > > On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 16:50:13 +1100 > > Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > > Hello Zenaan, > > > > >OMG money! I, being Debian User it > > > > The best thing to do is ignore SPAM. > > > > If you *must* reply, don't quote the whole thing and send it to the > > list *again*. > > Replying to spam will just tell the spammers that the mailbox is being > read and that makes the address much more interesting for spam. And replying to spam replies amplifies the phenomenon yet more. The start is actually exponential, until things start saturating (it's actually a logistic function [1]). Looking forward to Yet Another Of Those Nerdy Monster Threads ;-) Cheers [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistic_function -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re : Connexion réseau impossible pour certains logiciels
Bonjour à toutes et tous, Un grand merci pour votre aide. J’ai partiellement résolu le problème comme suit : Habituellement je change de graphical.target à multi-user.target et je rédige un .xinitrc en fct de l’environement que je veux. Avant d’avoir ce problème, je pouvais laisser x-session-manager et x-window-manager à leur valeur et lancer ce que je veux avec : exec /usr/bin/openbox-session Maintenant ça ne marche plus (si je fais ça les applications comme libreoffice mettent des plombes à démarrer en attendant un accès à internet). Pour contourner le problème j’ai configuré : x-session-manager → /usr/bin/openbox-session x-window-manager → /usr/bin/openbox Avec : update-alternatives --config x-session-manager Et dans .xinitrc, au lieu de : exec /usr/bin/openbox-session J’ai : . /etc/X11/Xsession Qui lance /usr/bin/openbox-session par son alternative. Bon ça marche « tout le monde » « voit » la connexion internet. Le problème est contourné, mais pas résolu, tant que je ne comprendrai pas comment le script dans /etc/X11/Xsession résout le problème et pourquoi ça bloque en lançant : exec /usr/bin/openbox-session Vos lumières sont les bienvenues, car il me semble que mon système est mal configuré. La dernière version du système d’installation de debian ne m’a pas configuré le fuseau horaire, il « disait » ne pas pouvoir le faire sans configurer le réseau, alors que le DVD d’installation est justement prévu pour une installation sans accès à internet. Je l’ai fait il y a quelque mois avec une version précédente (12.2 je crois) du DVD d’installation et ça a parfaitement fonctionné sans accès à internet… Mais cette fois (avec la 12.4) le système d’installation me ramenait constamment à Matériel de connexion réseau: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch02s01.fr.html#network-cards Et j’ai dû m’y prendre à plusieurs reprises pour l’outrepasser. Il me semble que quelque chose est mal configuré… --Benoît
Question de Noël
Bonjour à toutes et tous, en ce jour de Noêl je lis quelques pages sur Wayland le remplaçant de X11. Et la une question émerge, peut-on sans trop de risque de dysfonctionnement installer wayland sous debian 12 . Merci François-Marie
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Re: Dealing with SPAM.
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 11:19:43AM +0100, Marco Moock wrote: > Am 25.12.2023 um 08:56:41 Uhr schrieb Brad Rogers: > > > On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 16:50:13 +1100 > > Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > > Hello Zenaan, > > > > >OMG money! I, being Debian User it > > > > The best thing to do is ignore SPAM. > > > > If you *must* reply, don't quote the whole thing and send it to the > > list *again*. > > Replying to spam will just tell the spammers that the mailbox is being > read and that makes the address much more interesting for spam. > If you come across spam - ignore it in the mail that's come to you. Also check in the web mailing list archives at lists.debian.org if its come from a list and use the button to report as spam. If it gets removed from the publicly visible archives there, it's also then less likely to be harvested by spambots and used again. Andy
Re: llenguatge de l'IU del Firefox
A mí m'ha passat alguna vegada una cosa pareguda. Normalment es perquè el locals no s'ha generat correctament. Per provar que costa poc: dpkg-reconfigure locales I a vore que passe. El 25 de desembre de 2023 10:34:19 CET, "Ernest Adrogué" ha escrit: >Hola, > >Acabo d'instal·lar el paquet firefox-esr-l10n-ca, però la interfície >d'usuari em segueix apareixent en anglès. A les preferències no surt >l'opció català. > >El local del meu usuari és el ca_ES. > >Alguna suggerència? > >Salutacions > -- Enviat des del meu dispositiu Android amb el K-9 Mail. Disculpeu la brevetat.
Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...
On Mon, Dec 25, 2023 at 12:24:55AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 12/25/23, David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 24 Dec 2023 at 23:05:53 (+), Albretch Mueller wrote: > >> On 12/18/23, Max Nikulin wrote: > ... > >> Why would %S be in the range > >> second (00..60), instead of (00..59)?: > > > > Leap seconds—see the example already in the thread: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/12/msg00976.html > > So, a possible (the only?) solution to those kinds of problems would > be to always and explicitly use UTC, right? Or, using the longitude 20 > West (just crossing Iceland, which is 60+ North) or 170 West (too > close to "Vladimir Putin") where so few people live that I don't think > that anyone would care about day time savings or any of that. > Yes - that's the obvious way. I set my machines to /etc/UTC (or /etc/GMT) and leave them there. No daylight saving time, no offsets - all logs unambiguous. That's why (worldwide) radio logkeeping is/was in UTC. If you're travelling in an aircraft, you don't _need_ to know ground time but you do need to know flight time against a reference time. The Royal Air Force keep to UTC wherever they are in the world for just this reason. Anything else is an offset against the reference: if all your Linux boxes have timestamps against the epoch - which can also be related to a human time if you *have* to - you have a reference there.. The problem comes when someone gives you logs that are taken against a different reference. (See also mapping against Greenwhich meridian (UK) and Paris meridian (France) for many years - two sets of maps that aren't *hugely* different on a world scale but locally very different). > All kinds of software keep time diffs. I am trying to use it in an > obvious human readable way right in the file names. > > lbrtchx >
Re: llenguatge de l'IU del Firefox
Bon dia i Bon Nadal: Jo tinc instal·lada la versió 115.6.0esr-1~deb12u1 del firefox-esr-l10n-ca i me surt tot en català. Poder tens instal·lada la versió 115.5.0esr-1~deb12u1? Salut! On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 09:34:19 + Ernest Adrogué wrote: > Hola, > > Acabo d'instal·lar el paquet firefox-esr-l10n-ca, però la interfície > d'usuari em segueix apareixent en anglès. A les preferències no surt > l'opció català. > > El local del meu usuari és el ca_ES. > > Alguna suggerència? > > Salutacions >
Re: Dealing with SPAM.
Am 25.12.2023 um 08:56:41 Uhr schrieb Brad Rogers: > On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 16:50:13 +1100 > Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > Hello Zenaan, > > >OMG money! I, being Debian User it > > The best thing to do is ignore SPAM. > > If you *must* reply, don't quote the whole thing and send it to the > list *again*. Replying to spam will just tell the spammers that the mailbox is being read and that makes the address much more interesting for spam.
Dealing with SPAM.
On Mon, 25 Dec 2023 16:50:13 +1100
Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Hello Zenaan,
>OMG money! I, being Debian User it
The best thing to do is ignore SPAM.
If you *must* reply, don't quote the whole thing and send it to the list
*again*.
Thank you.
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Re: llenguatge de l'IU del Firefox
El 25/12/23 a les 10:34, Ernest Adrogué ha escrit: Hola, Acabo d'instal·lar el paquet firefox-esr-l10n-ca, però la interfície d'usuari em segueix apareixent en anglès. A les preferències no surt l'opció català. El local del meu usuari és el ca_ES. Alguna suggerència? Salutacions Jo tinc els meus "locale" aíxi, i la IU del Firefox em surt en català: $ locale LANG=ca_ES.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=ca:en_US LC_CTYPE="ca_ES.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="ca_ES.UTF-8" LC_TIME="ca_ES.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE="ca_ES.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY="ca_ES.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES="ca_ES.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="ca_ES.UTF-8" LC_NAME="ca_ES.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="ca_ES.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="ca_ES.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT="ca_ES.UTF-8" LC_IDENTIFICATION="ca_ES.UTF-8" LC_ALL= espero que t'ajudi. Salut! Josep M. Ferrer
llenguatge de l'IU del Firefox
Hola, Acabo d'instal·lar el paquet firefox-esr-l10n-ca, però la interfície d'usuari em segueix apareixent en anglès. A les preferències no surt l'opció català. El local del meu usuari és el ca_ES. Alguna suggerència? Salutacions
Re: difference in seconds between two formatted dates ...
On Sun, 2023-12-24 at 23:05 +, Albretch Mueller wrote: [...] > Why would %S be in the range second (00..60), instead of (00..59)?: To support leap seconds [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second -- Tixy
