Re: Is everyone's system apt-get -qq updateing every day?
Joey Hess wrote: Adam Porter wrote: return 1 if check_stamp $UPDATE_STAMP $UpdateInterval; then if apt-get -qq update 2/dev/null; then As you can see, I haven't enabled the perodic updates in apt.conf, but the check_stamp function returns true if the interval is set to 0, In shell script, 1 is false. Hm, ok. Well, I guess I'll have to look for another reason. I sometimes find apt-get -qq update running from a cronjob, and I can't explain why. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mouse keyboard probs under X [WAS: usb mouse problems: etch/gnome/metacity]
michael wrote: Okay, I spoke too soon :( The mouse just ''froze'' on me again (as in I could move it but clicking did nothing) - had to ALT-TAB (to 'nothing' then again to get current apps)... That doesn't sound like a hardware problem. See if you can figure out what apps are running when it happens and see if there's a pattern. Maybe a certain app is causing it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is everyone's system apt-get -qq updateing every day?
As posted at http://bugs.debian.org/457193
Am I missing something obvious, or...
$ less /etc/cron.daily/apt
...
check_stamp()
{
stamp=$1
interval=$2
if [ $interval -eq 0 ]; then
return 1
fi
...
UpdateInterval=0
DownloadUpgradeableInterval=0
eval $(apt-config shell UpdateInterval
APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists DownloadUpgradeableInterval
APT::Periodic::Download-Upgradeable-Packages)
...
UPDATE_STAMP=/var/lib/apt/periodic/update-stamp
if check_stamp $UPDATE_STAMP $UpdateInterval; then
if apt-get -qq update 2/dev/null; then
$ less /etc/apt/apt.conf
APT::Cache-Limit 2000;
As you can see, I haven't enabled the perodic updates in apt.conf, but
the check_stamp function returns true if the interval is set to 0,
which it is by default (UpdateInterval=0). So if check_stamp will
return true, and it will then run apt-get -qq update, even though I
haven't enabled it. And, in fact, if I disable it in apt.conf, it
will still run it.
Is it just me or is it strange that no one has noticed this before?
Doesn't this mean that just about every Debian computer on the
Internet is running apt-get -qq update every day? Isn't this a
waste of bandwidth?
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Re: Wodim Woes
Thomas H. George wrote: wodim --scanbus finds a cdrw device at 0,0,0 but wodim -v dev=0,0,0 data.iso goes crazy and says it is trying to access /dev/hda and then /dev/hdb My system is lenny with a linux-image-2.6.22-3-686 kernel. What is wrong and how can I fix it. I don't know, but it might help for you to provide the actual console commands and output. Also, describe your system's hardware, and see if it works in other Linux distros or other OS'es. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD driver
Paul Johnson wrote: DVD, whether it's a WORM or ROM disc, uses udf if it's a data DVD. If it's a video DVD, it's more of a codec and media player issue. I believe that DVDs can also use ISO9660 filesystems, not just UDF. For example, check the growisofs man page (K3b uses growisofs for all of its DVD work, AFAIK). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mouse keyboard probs under X [WAS: usb mouse problems: etch/gnome/metacity]
cs wrote: actually after using KDE for an hour today, the keyboard froze too... playing with the control centre somehow reset it such that keyboard started accepting USB input again it seems (under Gnome) openning many more application windows (that have not been previously openned?) somehow resets it so keyboard started accepting input again any ideas??! or ways to narrow this down? grep through your /var/logs for USB-related messages. Maybe something is going on. I have a PS/2 keyboard but my USB mouse is fine. Once in a while my USB hard disk will bork itself and, because of LVM, I'll have to reboot to fix it. Sometimes my SanDisk USB memory card reader will mess up too. I often wonder if it's something to do with the USB controllers on my motherboard (which is pretty old). If that doesn't turn anything up, I'd suggest trying a different USB keyboard, and a PS/2 one if possible. If that doesn't help, I'd suggest seeing a psychiatrist; perhaps your original theory of your slowly going mad is correct. ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: amarok hangs
Chris wrote: Thanks for the info and hint!! It seems to sometimes hang in the middle of different songs, I have always when playing mp3 files. I haven't really noticed any one particular file that causes problems. I do listen to some internet streams, but haven't noticed anything. Could it have something to do with the sound module? It sometimes makes a quiet click sound when it hangs, other times it just stops. Maybe. What output module do you have Xine set to use? Maybe you could try a different one. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: usb mouse problems: etch/gnome/metacity
What video driver? Does it happen with KDE? Does it happen with different Linux distros? Does it happen if you boot a live CD of Ubuntu or...? Does logging out and back in (without rebooting) fix it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DVD drive misbehaves after a while, kernel problem?
Mirko Parthey wrote: Has anybody seen something like this before? Any hints how I could rule out faulty hardware? Boot a different distro's live CD and see if it happens. If you have Windows on another partition, see if it happens with that. If you have another computer, see if the drive does the same thing in the other computer. If nothing else, see if there are any BIOS updates for your motherboard. Good luck. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: amarok hangs
Chris wrote: I really like amarok, am finding however that it is hanging often on playback. Saw no bug reports on the version in unstable, I am running an otherwise testing system (uprgaded to the unstable version in the hopes that the problem was resolved in b2). If the bug is reported against testing, but not marked as fixed, it's probably still present in the unstable version. I think most of Amarok's problems stem from libxine. Xine hangs sometimes when it gets a stream or a file it doesn't like. Of course, it would be nice if Amarok could gracefully handle situations like this. In the future, Amarok2 will use GStreamer. Until then, use the latest versions of Amarok and libxine, and if it happens repeatedly, see if you can figure out with which streams and/or files. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: won't dual boot: 2 disks and LVM
To try to install Windows without disconnecting your LVM disk sounds risky to me, if not impossible. Better to play it safe and unplug the LVM drive. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to make Konqueror open shell scripts in an editor instead of running them
A few minutes of googling found this very useful tip. If you want Konqueror to open shell scripts in an editor instead of running them (usually in the background, which isn't usually very useful), just add the x-shellscript MIME type to the text group in Konqueror's file association settings. You can copy the details from the one in the application group. Then put your favorite editor at the top, and from now on, when you double-click one in Konqueror, it will open in your editor instead of running it. Saves some clicks from right-click-open with... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A silly question about tar [solved]
So it looks like the ultimate solution is Greg Folkert's suggestion to install the package unp, which handles multiple archives and automatically chooses the right extractor. Cameron Hutchison's shell function is also handy, but unp probably makes that unnecessary if you can install packages on the system you're using. Thanks, list! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: user based package manager?
Jeff Zhang wrote: Most installed packages will mess $HOME more or less when compiled with --prefix=$HOME. Though, keep the log of `make install' may be used as an removing method if wanted latter. Is there some package manager that can be used for normal user under their home location? By which the software can be cleanly purged and so on. Or some extensions of checkinstall to make an simple one. A very good question. A fairly simple solution might be to use installwatch to monitor the installation and output a log file. Then a simple script could remove everything listed in the log file when you want to uninstall it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A silly question about tar
I've read the man page, googled this list and the rest of the Net, but I still can't figure out why this doesn't work: $ tar xjf *.tar.bz2 tar: beryl-core-0.2.0.tar.bz2: Not found in archive tar: beryl-manager-0.2.0.tar.bz2: Not found in archive tar: beryl-plugins-0.2.0.tar.bz2: Not found in archive tar: beryl-plugins-unsupported-0.2.0.tar.bz2: Not found in archive tar: beryl-settings-0.2.0.tar.bz2: Not found in archive tar: beryl-settings-bindings-0.2.0.tar.bz2: Not found in archive tar: beryl-settings-simple-0.2.0.tar.bz2: Not found in archive tar: emerald-0.2.0.tar.bz2: Not found in archive tar: emerald-themes-0.2.0.tar.bz2: Not found in archive tar: heliodor-0.2.0.tar.bz2: Not found in archive tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors Not only did it completely fail, but it skipped the first file in the directory, aquamarine-0.2.0.tar.bz2. But if I run the same command on a single file instead of a wildcard, it works fine. Am I doing something wrong? Why can't tar handle a wildcard list like that? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A silly question about tar
Thanks for your replies, everyone. It seems to me that there might be a market for a simple script frontend to tar that would handle shell-expanded wildcards; perhaps it could be included in Debian's package of tar. Would that be a good idea? Does anything like that already exist? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A silly question about tar
I've read the man page, googled this list and the rest of the Net, but I still can't figure out why this doesn't work: $ tar xjf *.tar.bz2 tar: beryl-core-0.2.0.tar.bz2: Not found in archive tar: beryl-manager-0.2.0.tar.bz2: Not found in archive tar: beryl-plugins-0.2.0.tar.bz2: Not found in archive tar: beryl-plugins-unsupported-0.2.0.tar.bz2: Not found in archive tar: beryl-settings-0.2.0.tar.bz2: Not found in archive tar: beryl-settings-bindings-0.2.0.tar.bz2: Not found in archive tar: beryl-settings-simple-0.2.0.tar.bz2: Not found in archive tar: emerald-0.2.0.tar.bz2: Not found in archive tar: emerald-themes-0.2.0.tar.bz2: Not found in archive tar: heliodor-0.2.0.tar.bz2: Not found in archive tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors Not only did it completely fail, but it skipped the first file in the directory, aquamarine-0.2.0.tar.bz2. But if I run the same command on a single file instead of a wildcard, it works fine. Am I doing something wrong? Why can't tar handle a wildcard list like that? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for dark background themes
T wrote: I'm wondering if I can change those GTK/QT applications to a light-on-dark theme. Moreover, can you recommend a good light-on-dark theme? Something like this maybe? www.alphapapa.net/temp/digikam.png If you want it, I can send you the KDE color scheme, just e-mail me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dpkg-buildpackage, debian etch, beryl
Magnus Pedersen wrote: I'm trying to build .debs of beryl: I can build the source without problems with : ./configure make But when I try to build with dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot I end up with a lot linies like this and an error: /home/magnus/Desktop/beryl/beryl-core-0.1.4/libberylsettings/main.c:860: undefined reference to `g_slist_foreach' .libs/main.o: In function `read_settings_for_plugin': [...] This is my first try building .debs, can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? Hi Magnus, Are you building from the release tarball or SVN or what? I'm not sure why the tarballs would build fine except with dpkg-buildpackage. You said you end up with an error, but you didn't actually include the error message. It would also help if you'd say what working directory you execute the commands in. I've been building the SVN versions with excellent results; no crashes, the occasional new feature, and minor bug fixes. After $(svn up) I run: beryl/trunk$ nice -n 10 make newdebs That will build the deb packages, in order, and install each package as it goes. It will use sudo and prompt you for the password when it needs it, so you might want to go ahead and run $(sudo echo) first if you plan to leave the build going unattended. After it finishes, it will put the debs in the output/ directory, where is the SVN revision. The only drawbacks to this are: a) if the build fails at some point but has already installed some packages it built successfully, you could end up with mismatched versions of Beryl's different packages. I usually keep a copy of the last build that I've observed to be stable so I can revert to it if necessary. However, it's been a while since I've had any build errors, and even then, if you really want to, you can find another SVN revision that builds. b) Unfortunately, the way Beryl's build process is set up, it must, for example, install beryl-core before it can build beryl-plugins. This is what leads to drawback A above (maybe I have these in the wrong order). Again, build errors seem to getting more rare, and Beryl and Emerald seem quite stable, so I recommend you give the SVN version a try. Please cc my email if you want me to see any replies. Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dpkg-buildpackage, debian etch, beryl
Magnus Pedersen wrote: I'm building from the 0.14 release tarballs and this is my buildcommand and path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Desktop/beryl/build/beryl-core-0.1.4$ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot The final error looks like this: /home/magnus/Desktop/beryl/build/beryl-core-0.1.4/libberylsettings/main.c:933: undefined refer ence to `g_key_file_free' .libs/display_options.o: In function `compDisplayInitOptions': ../src/display_options.c:268: undefined reference to `XStringToKeysym' ../src/display_options.c:285: undefined reference to `XStringToKeysym' ../src/display_options.c:302: undefined reference to `XStringToKeysym' ../src/display_options.c:334: undefined reference to `XStringToKeysym' ../src/display_options.c:351: undefined reference to `XStringToKeysym' .libs/display_options.o:../src/display_options.c:399: more undefined references to `XStringToK eysym' follow collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[3]: *** [libberylsettings.la] Error 1 I'm far from an expert on this, but have you installed the beryl-dev package? I think it gets built before libberylsettings. I don't fully (or even slightly) understand the Beryl build process, but I've seen similar problems that were solved by going ahead and installing beryl-core, and perhaps beryl-dev. Are you sure that the entire build finishes without errors when you just run make? I'm not sure I'm brave enough to run SVN, but perhaps I should give it a try... Well, I have to say, the SVN Makefile makes building and installing dead simple. In fact, I bet the Makefile holds the answers to this problem... If you really can't figure it out, try the Beryl forums, IRC channel, or bug tracker. The devs are quite helpful. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt-build patch available
For anyone who would like to use apt-build more, but has run into bugs dealing with differing binary and source Version fields, there is a nice patch available at bug 332594: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi/apt-build.diff?bug=332594;msg=17;att=1 I don't know why the patch hasn't been released in an updated apt-build package yet, but I mailed the bug report and tagged it patch, so hopefully it will be soon. In the meantime, this might help someone. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-build patch available
Adam Porter wrote: For anyone who would like to use apt-build more, but has run into bugs dealing with differing binary and source Version fields, there is a nice patch available at bug 332594: I don't know why the patch hasn't been released in an updated apt-build package yet, but I mailed the bug report and tagged it patch, so hopefully it will be soon. In the meantime, this might help someone. Wow, that didn't take long. Mr. Danjou already applied the patch and uploaded a new version. :) Debian at its finest. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Making APT prefer locally compiled packages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is a little confusing, and please forgive me if the answer is out there somewhere, but I haven't been able to find it. Here's what happened: 1. I installed pentium-builder and set it for athlon-xp so it will compile for my CPU. 2. $ apt-src -i install nvidia-glx 3. $ apt-cache policy nvidia-glx nvidia-glx: Installed: 1.0.8774-3 Candidate: 1.0.8774-3 Version table: 1.0.8774-3 0 800 http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/non-free Packages *** 1.0.8774-3 0 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status Notice that even though the versions are the same, it's seeing them as different packages. $ cat /etc/apt/preferences Package: * Pin: release o= Pin-Priority: 900 Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 900 Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 800 That's straight out of the apt_preferences man page. Didn't work. So finally I found a bug report on apt, bug #351056, that pointed me to the MD5sum of the packages: $ apt-cache show nvidia-glx ... Suggests: nvidia-settings, nvidia-kernel-source (= 1.0.8774) Conflicts: nvidia-glx-src Filename: pool/non-free/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/nvidia-glx_1.0.8774-3_i386.deb Size: 3293444 MD5sum: 6e393e5d637a15096df1c19935db2567 SHA1: 00dcc698272d2a76594cd9e4a3afb57fce9a059e SHA256: 5a8267d909944e19aec748ad5ab4e63ec769dbe73a03ff96007315a4ef0a1e80 Description: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver ... Suggests: nvidia-settings, nvidia-kernel-source (= 1.0.8774) Conflicts: nvidia-glx-src Conffiles: /etc/default/nvidia-glx 81be77103c93a6a52273ba4d0ce8006b /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx 58f85e292ae2141c64b6490e19fc3f91 Description: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver Notice that the listing for the second package, the one that's currently installed, has no MD5sum, or SHA sums. (I'm not sure why it doesn't have any, though I'm guessing it's because I just installed the package with dpkg and didn't create a local repository.) But even if it had them, I still think it would be a problem, because I compiled it with -mcpu=athlon-xp, so the binaries should be different. So, how do I get apt to prefer the local, already-installed package when it's the same version number, but the MD5sum may differ or even be nonexistant for the already-installed package? (And, of course, this is not just a problem for the nvidia-glx package, but any others as well.) (And I know about apt-build, but it has its own set of problems that sometimes forces you to use other ways of compiling packages.) Thanks for any help. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFF35+5+GdyTDsrJsRAtNAAKCWDpvZI5kuVE7wxCTHRH49iYYqUQCdEb2u e4PTZ5jrHBoTKcoIB2nbNfQ= =863k -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Watching google videos?
Mathias Brodala wrote: Hello Adam. Democracy Player (which has a built-in Google Video search), for one, can play FLV videos, but I can't get it to play sound, [?] Are you using ALSA instead of OSS? Have you tried starting the player via ?aoss program-name?? (?aoss? is a wrapper and comes with the alsa-oss package.) Yes and no. :) Thanks, I'll try that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt preferences and apt-build's Archive line
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Here is a strange problem: $ cat /var/cache/apt-build/repository/Release Archive: apt-build Component: main Origin: apt-build Label: apt-build Architecture: i386 $ cat /etc/apt/preferences Package: * Pin: release a=apt-build Pin-Priority: 900 Package: * Pin: release o= Pin-Priority: 900 Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 900 Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 800 $ apt-cache policy nvidia-glx nvidia-glx: Installed: 1.0.8774-3 Candidate: 1.0.8774-3 Version table: *** 1.0.8774-3 0 500 file: apt-build/main Packages 1.0.8774-3 0 800 http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/non-free Packages Now if I change this line in the preferences file: Pin: release a=apt-build to: Pin: release o=apt-build then we get: $ apt-cache policy nvidia-glx nvidia-glx: Installed: 1.0.8774-3 Candidate: 1.0.8774-3 Version table: *** 1.0.8774-3 0 900 file: apt-build/main Packages 1.0.8774-3 0 800 http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/non-free Packages Now apt is preferring the version in the apt-build repository. But why doesn't pinning by Archive work? You can see in the apt-build Release file that the Archive is apt-build. This has been bugging me for a long time, and I just discovered that switching the preference to the Origin works. But why doesn't the Archive work? Is this a bug? If so, which package should I file it on? (apt-build is hardly developed anymore.) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFF4Hh5+GdyTDsrJsRAh5TAJ9DYGNiaBNrH6w4ArMK14FZ0jKuJgCgwqnM GzkcvDLzGdvvGzoFlkq8RXE= =nr+X -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: saving digital photographs
I have around 4.5GB of photos from the past few years on my hard disk. I have all of these as albums in digikam. I am thinking of saving these on to a DVD and freeing up the space from my hard disk. I was wondering of anyone has any suggestions on how best to do this. Should I just dump the directories (that correspoond to each album in digikam) on to the DVD? Should I include the .db files as well which are presumably used by digikam? Or is there any other option which I do not know about yet? Picasa has a nice feature where it keeps track of which images you've burned to CD. digikam doesn't have such a feature, but I filed a bug requesting it a long time ago, and I hope they add it before 1.0. However, digikam is able to export images to thumbnailed HTML galleries. Unfortunately it doesn't support spanning multiple CDs, but since you're using a DVD, that shouldn't matter. For my own long-term archiving of digital photos, I bought a box of Mitsui Gold CD-R's. These are rated for 100 years in controlled environments. Whether or not they'll hold up that long...well, I'll let you know in a hundred years. :) I also use Duplicity to backup to a Dreamhost account, which gets them off-site. I use SSH's rate limit to keep it from interfering with normal Internet usage, so it takes a few hours to run new backups. If I need to backup several gigs, the backup might take a couple days, or I could just remove the rate limit temporarily. Oh, and I use backupninja's rdiff-backup to backup to a second hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem installing xserver-xorg
David Goodenough wrote: I am trying to install xorg on an HP 9010 laptop. It was installed but the hard drive died and so I took an old 2.5 drive I had which had linux on it with XFree86 (and a SIS screen configured) and I am trying to upgrade it to work on this new machine. I got rid of the old XFree86 code (I think I got rid of all of it) You say it had Linux on it; was that Debian or something else? If it was Debian, what version? If it was newer than Woody, try $(apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg), then reinstall it. If it was Woody or older, or not Debian, then I recommend you wipe it and install Debian from scratch. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newsreader for Debian unstable with cross-posting/filtering controls
Arthur Marsh wrote: What newsreader packages are available in Debian unstable that have the ability to filter (even if only mark as read) messages that can be identified as spam by such a cross-post or by header/body contents? KNode can filter the GMANE-detected spam. You just set a filter on the Newsgroups header to give the message a -100 (ignored) score if the header contains gmane.spam.detected. Works very nicely. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: need a newsreader with decent filtering
Arthur Marsh wrote: At present, I'm trying knode but still seem unable to filter based on the fact that news.gmane.org marks detected spam as cross-posted to gmane.spam.detected (one cannot subscribe to gmane.spam.detected directly, so one can't automatically mark gmane.spam.detected as read). Any suggestions on getting knode to work nicely or an alternative news-reader with good filtering properties? Well, I'll repost what I posted to the kde-users group: The secret is that in the Scoring Rules editor, you can enter whatever field you want in the Conditions. So for me, I entered this: Name: GMANE Detected Spam Groups: .* (I actually left this empty, but KNode put the .* in all by itself!) Conditions: (x) Match all conditions ( ) Match any conditions ( ) Not (Newsgroups) (Contains Substring) (gmane.spam.detected) Actions: (Adjust Score) (-100) Notice that in the Conditions, I entered Newsgroups, even though that's not one of the six choices in the drop-down list. After doing that, you may have to select all the messages in a newsgroup and run Recalculate Scores, but I think it should apply to all new messages. There is some spam that doesn't get detected by GMANE, especially ones whose spam content is just an image, but this catches everything that GMANE catches. (I just upgraded to KNode=4:3.5.4-1 tonight, and I'm not sure if you could enter a custom field in earlier versions. If so...duh. If not, yay, they finally added it!) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Compiling CPU-optimized packages
Arthur Marsh wrote: Adam Porter wrote, On 2006-09-18 19:12: So, is there any way to set compiler flags in the Debian package building process other than using apt-build or editing debian/rules? look at the package: pentium-builder Replaces gcc, cc, and g++ with scripts that build pentium optimized code. (Other processors can be optimised for as well.) Thank you very much! I will look into it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Watching google videos?
W. Borgert wrote: But maybe there is a way to download the video and watch it with mplayer or another free program? Thanks in advance! Democracy Player (which has a built-in Google Video search), for one, can play FLV videos, but I can't get it to play sound, and it plays the video quite choppily. Recent builds of mplayer can play FLV's also, and I think it plays them ok. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Compiling CPU-optimized packages
I'm sure this has been covered before, but I've dug through Google and /usr/share/doc and I can't find a solution. Forgive me if I missed the answer. I'm trying to compile Firefox with -march=athlon-xp. (Please spare me any lecture about whether it's worth it, I am experimenting.) Although it worked properly a few weeks ago, apt-build doesn't want to play nice right now; it keeps trying to build the wrong version of the package. (apt-build has a lot of bugs, actually, and it rarely works properly.) So I've been trying to use apt-src. What I would like to find is a way to set the compiler flags other than editing debian/rules every time the source is extracted. Google has turned up things like DEB_ARCH_OPT_FLAGS (which seems to do nothing, and I kind of doubt it ever actually existed), and DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS (which a quick scan of debian/rules indicates won't set arbitrary options). So, is there any way to set compiler flags in the Debian package building process other than using apt-build or editing debian/rules? Thanks for any help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Building packages with apt-src with --enable-debug?
Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2006-04-12 04:23:17, schrieb Adam Porter: I'm trying to debug some annoying Jabber problems in Kopete. I need to build Kopete with --enable-debug. Naturally, Kopete is part of kdenetwork, which is a huge package. I'd like to build it with apt-src, but I can't find any way to use configure flags. I've also looked at dpkg-buildpackage and dh_builddeb. I've checked the man pages and Google. I'm probably missing something obvious. Any help? apt-get build-dep apt-get source kopete cd kopete-$VERSION $EDITOR debian/rules Find the line(s) with dh_strip and coment them out. Save the file and close the $EDITOR dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot cd .. dpkg -i kopete_*.deb Thanks for your kind reply, Michelle. Actually a few days ago I came across $DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS--I don't remember where. Anyway, here's a topic on it I just found on Google (be sure to read the rest of the thread for complete accuracy): http://lists.debian.org/debian-policy/2001/04/msg00188.html I haven't actually *tried* it yet, but I'm hoping it will make it easy to do this. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems installing Debian on old laptop
Piers Kittel wrote: When trying to boot Debian (using the 3.1 r0 netboot CD) to install, it won't work at all: I recommend trying the newer testing netboot installer CDs, rather than the Sarge r0 one. It might help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What have I done wrong.
mkontakt wrote: I have the latest Debian key 1024D/2D230C5F 2006-01-03 [expires: 2007-02-07] despite this while upgrading Debian packages from the official sites, I got the warning The following packages cannot be authenticated!. Why, should I trust the Debian packages? Please search on wiki.debian.org and you will find the proper instructions to solve this problem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with security.debian.org
anonym ano wrote: (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_etch_updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages) der Quellpakete zugreifen. - stat (2 Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden) W: Sie möchten vielleicht »apt-get update« aufrufen, um diese Probleme zu lösen E: Einige Indexdateien konnten nicht heruntergeladen werden, sie wurden ignoriert oder alte an ihrer Stelle benutzt. http://security.debian.org/dists/etch/updates/main/ As you can see, there is no amd64 directory on the server. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-build
S. M. Ibrahim (lavluda) wrote: Any body here useing apt-build. I am interested to know your openioun about this tool. I think it has great, great potential, but it still has some important bugs that can make it unusable at times (like simply not finding a source package, when $apt-get source$ or $apt-src install$ works fine). I hope it sees more active development. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Building packages with apt-src with --enable-debug?
I'm trying to debug some annoying Jabber problems in Kopete. I need to build Kopete with --enable-debug. Naturally, Kopete is part of kdenetwork, which is a huge package. I'd like to build it with apt-src, but I can't find any way to use configure flags. I've also looked at dpkg-buildpackage and dh_builddeb. I've checked the man pages and Google. I'm probably missing something obvious. Any help? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to unregister gxine to play Real files in RealPlayer
You haven't told us whether you're running GNOME, KDE, or what, or what browser you're using. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is udev really 'optional'?
Mike McCarty wrote: Being on a laptop, I really need the functionality. Am I going to have to give up the hotplug package or will it continue to be an alternative to udev? I don't understand the need for either of them. Is there some reason your configuration changes frequently, and you can't be bothered to instruct the computer to look manually? Well, especially on a laptop, doing things like plugging in wireless cards, external drives/USB memory sticks/mice, etc. I'm no expert, but I have no problems with udev or hotplug. I'd say, if hotplug is working, stick with it. Someday when you end up doing an upgrade that requires udev, it will probably work fine (my guess is that it would work fine for you now, too). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT]
Sorry, I don't know anything about your problem, but you might get more help with a more descriptive subject line. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X.org / deal head problem
My only advice would be to post a bug on Debian's tracker and/or FDO's tracker. Sorry; good luck. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with loop-aes?
Are you losetup'ing and *then* running dd to create the file? From reading your post, I get that impression. If you are, you should create the file with dd, and *then* losetup it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: chattr maildir
This doesn't answer your question, but I mount my partitions with noatime. You might consider that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Error in /var/log/message
I'm no expert, but it looks like a kernel oops caused by an inability to handle a paging request, and it looks like tar was doing something when it happened. Did you check the system logs for what happened right before then? Were any cron jobs running? Are you up-to-date with all your software? What distro/version are you running? Any unusual hardware? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrade frustrations (in testing) with shorewall crashes, clock troubles, tomcat4 crashes
Michael Bonert wrote: On shutdown I was getting something like this: - Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=eth0 OUT=MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:06:25:f0:a9:d3:08:026369 PROTO=UDP SPT=29943 DPT=152 LEN=128 - I couldn't do anything about it. It seemed to be stuck in a loop... where the numbers after 'SPT=' where increasing. Unplugging the network cable-- stopped the loop... no more text was printed to the screen. That suggests that something on your network is sending packets from steadily increasing port numbers that Shorewall (well, iptables in the kernel) is blocking and logging. Have you checked your logs to see if this is happening even before you shutdown the computer? Or is something that happens at shutdown causing something else on the network to send these packets? (That would be strange.) A quick Google search shows that port 152 is for bftp, background file transfer program. Never heard of it before, myself. A quick check of netstat on my PC doesn't show that port being used. A quick apt-cache search bftp didn't turn up anything. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: chattr maildir
Eric Persson wrote: Adam Porter wrote: This doesn't answer your question, but I mount my partitions with noatime. You might consider that. Yeah, I noticed that, I just hadnt the oppurtunity to reboot or remount the drives currently. What are your experience of it performancewise? I haven't run any benchmarks one way or the other. I just read about it and thought it was a good idea. I've never used the access times for anything, anyway. YMMVIS. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wireless interface fails to initialize fully; still need to get DHCP manually
Robert Glueck wrote: If you really want to get into this, the thread is here: I think that's getting over my head, sorry. Good luck. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Re: Problems with loop-aes?
I'm sorry, but to be frank, I think you're going about this the hard way. I looked through that guide, and it seems quite complex. Granted, I don't have any experience with the software RAID tools, but this still seems like overkill. It also seems less future-proof to me, which is something you should consider when getting ready to lock your data up in a certain encryption scheme. The guide also says, Loop-AES is more secure than dm-crypt (and possibly faster), but I don't know if that's true. The dm-crypt system is pretty standard, it uses AES, and you can use GPG keys with it as well. I recommend that you abandon this particular guide, and Loop-AES, and use cryptsetup, perhaps also with LUKS (in fact, there's even a guide for this on the same site you've been using). encfs is also an option, but is a very different way of storing the encrypted data. cryptsetup is a standard tool, very simple, and quick. It can boil down to this, basically: (use whatever if you want; /dev/zero is quick, but if you're really paranoid, use one of the random devices) # dd if=/dev/urandom of=/path/to/encrypted/loopfile bs=1M count=nummegs # losetup /dev/loop/0 /path/to/encrypted/loopfile # cryptsetup create vault /dev/loop/0 (give your passphrase; read the man pages if you want to use a keyfile instead, but that means lost key=lost data) # mkfs.ext3 /dev/mapper/vault # mount /dev/mapper/vault /mnt/vault (Of course, standard warnings about dd apply; be careful, it can be a scalpel or a sledgehammer to your data.) Notice that you use dd before you create the loop device, then you create the encrypted device-mapper device before making the filesystem, and finally you mount the filesystem. I believe the cryptsetup in Debian also supports LUKS now, but you may want to make sure that LUKS isn't going to make one more on-disk format change before you decide to use it. And again, I'd look into encfs before making a final decision. Again, keyfiles are an option to increase security, but they also increase the risk of losing your data. Make sure you keep multiple backups of the key in safe locations. And again, think of the future. Using non-standard tools also increases the risk that in the future, if you upgrade or have to reinstall your OS, something won't get recreated exactly the same way, and will make it harder to access your data. If you still want to go through with this loop-aes guide, then it looks to me like you're running losetup before creating the loopback file with dd. And--I just noticed this--if you're planning to use an entire partition or array for your encrypted device, you don't even need a loopback device. cryptsetup can use a partition or entire disk directly. As far as I know, loop-aes is deprecated (and the fact that it's not in Debian proper lends credence to that, I think). Well, sorry for being so long-winded and disorganized, but I hope this helps you get it working. Good luck. Adam On Thursday 09 March 2006 13:50, you wrote: Are you losetup'ing and *then* running dd to create the file? From reading your post, I get that impression. If you are, you should create the file with dd, and *then* losetup it. I am following: http://deb.riseup.net/storage/encryption/loop-aes/ Here is a longer post I did on linux-crypto What you said was inconsistent. loop3/md4 vs. loop1/md2 I will do that. Just as a sort out 3/4 were the examples on the page. 1/2 was what I actually used. I start by rebooting my system to be sure. cookiemonster:~/VMware# reboot [removed useless info about system shutting down] We log in, and I recreated the array (after zeroing superblocks) mdadm --create /dev/md2 --chunk=64 --level=raid1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/hde1 /dev/hdf1 cookiemonster:~# mdadm --detail /dev/md2 /dev/md2: Version : 00.90.01 Creation Time : Thu Mar 9 20:25:02 2006 Raid Level : raid1 Array Size : 80418112 (76.69 GiB 82.35 GB) Device Size : 80418112 (76.69 GiB 82.35 GB) Raid Devices : 2 Total Devices : 2 Preferred Minor : 2 Persistence : Superblock is persistent Update Time : Thu Mar 9 20:25:02 2006 State : clean, resyncing Active Devices : 2 Working Devices : 2 Failed Devices : 0 Spare Devices : 0 Rebuild Status : 2% complete UUID : 5e24575f:df3b5a81:f2a68636:ff7f6e2b Events : 0.415 Number Major Minor RaidDevice State 0 3310 active sync /dev/.static/dev/hde1 1 33 651 active sync /dev/.static/dev/hdf1 cookiemonster:~# We have plenty of memory cookiemonster:~# free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 3116936 1701602946776 0 6296 73592 -/+ buffers/cache: 902723026664 Swap: 1951888 01951888 cookiemonster:~# cookiemonster:~# modprobe loop cookiemonster:~# head -c 15 /dev/urandom | uuencode -m -
RE: Re: Problems with loop-aes?
Having said all that, you may want to read this thread and do your own research before settling on dm-crypt, loop-aes, encfs, or any solution: http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-crypto/2006-02/msg00037.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qemu and Kqemu on Sid
Metrics wrote: I'm using gcc-4.0 to build the kqemu kernel module. When I ran ./configure on QEMU 0.8.0 and kqemu, it warned me that there are known problems with gcc 4.0. I compiled it with gcc 3.4. I believe you can do it like this: ./configure --cc=gcc-3.4 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wireless interface fails to initialize fully; still need to get DHCP manually
Hmm, you might be the same guy I talked to in #debian (I think my nick then was tired). I'm not an expert, and I have no experience with ndiswrapper, but I'll try to help. Please post your /etc/network/interfaces file. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mplayer and alsa bug?
Wackojacko wrote: However, I have since tried the version from the stable repo above and it works with the current alsa so it looks like a bug in the current mplayer. Does reportbug work for unofficial packages? I don't think so, sorry. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gstreamer, esd, arts, and other black magic
I've never used esd or arts since I switched my desktop to Debian about a year ago. I've always used just plain ALSA, and it's always worked great. For GNOME, you can use GConf to set the outputsink to use the alsasink, and in KDE you can simply select it in kcontrol. I really don't know what Firefox uses, or how it decides, but I've never had to change anything on it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sudden sound performance problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've been running Debian full-time on my desktop for over a year now, with a combination of testing and unstable (mostly testing). At the moment I'm running 2.6.15, compiled with Debian's default config except for turning on a couple of things so I could use the atop monitor. I've used ALSA from the very beginning with my two SB Live! Value cards, and it works perfectly. Well, it has, but in just the past week I've noticed very strange audio performance problems. If CPU usage spikes for a few seconds, the audio tends to skip (when I'm listening to XMMS, for example). This has *never* happened before. Another thing that happens is that if I'm watching a video, and the video player app freezes (which hasn't happened like this until now, either), the audio will loop over about a quarter-second's data until either it gets more audio to play, or the app that was playing it is killed. It sounds like the same kind of thing that happens if you're listening to something and the whole computer freezes, except the rest of the system is not frozen, and it can be stopped by killing the app. I looked through my apt-listchanges logs for anything ALSA-related, but I came up empty. I'll do some more digging and see if I can find any other audio-decoding libs that might have been upgraded in the timeframe, but I wondered if anyone else has experienced this too. I'm not sure if this is related, but at the same time, I've noticed that some apps like amarok, Kaffeine with the Xine engine, and perhaps others, have been freezing up completely, usually while switching from one track or video to the next, or sometimes in the middle of a video. This behavior is also new. I realize that using testing, and especially unstable, results in strange problems like this now and then. But I would like to help solve it, especially if I'm not the only one experiencing it. So any advice or anecdotes would be appreciated. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEB9No5+GdyTDsrJsRAr1ZAKDXZvpm+TKN+Rf9apceeqRmHAogDACg7oYY PhPGM6MNQPTllFguSor4JCI= =JKlz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mplayer and alsa bug?
I've no experience with amd64, but I can tell you or suggest a few things: I'm running mplayer-k6 from the marrilat repo. I don't know anything about the repo at UCLA.edu you posted. I'm using the same package of libasound2 that you are. My questions/suggestions: 1. Does ALSA work for other apps? Have you run alsaconf? 2. Does it happen on stock Debian kernels? 3. What's your sound card again? :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: synaptic starting in console not from menu
L.V.Gandhi wrote: I have installed sarge r1 starting with base install and then using apt-get kdebase, x-window-system-core, synaptic etc. After correcting sudoers file for env, I could start synaptic from konsole. But when I click synaptic in menu nothing happens. How to get it work? Is it some program in kde which can ask for root password for starting synaptic not installed by me? By default it will try to use gksu (which is a Recommends of synaptic, BTW). Do you have GNOME installed as well? If not, that would be why it's missing, probably. You can use kdesu instead of gksu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't open encrypted partitions
Kees Vonk wrote: Adam Porter wrote: Have you checked the actual output of GPG? I have checked the GPG output (it is 64 lines of random characters, as expected). I originally generated the keys for aes-loop multi-key setup, and then forgot to truncate it when I started using dm-crypt. Would the fact that there are newline characters in that output cause the problem (something like: before the update it did accept them in a password and now not any more, or vice versa of course)? I don't know. Is it outputting ASCII data, like the way OpenPGP messages and keys are exchanged, with the headers and footers? Or is it just the key itself? If it's just the key itself, maybe that is causing a problem, but the only way to be sure would be to know how it used to work. If nothing else, can you revert to older versions of the relevant packages? Maybe you should downgrade some things to testing. I generally stick with testing for most things, unless something I really want is in unstable and it's not in testing yet. BTW, I only happened to notice your reply. It seems that no References: header was sent in your reply, which caused it to not show up in the same thread as the first two messages. I don't know why it's happening, but I thought I'd let you know. Anyway, if you reply to this, you might want to cc me to be sure I get it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sponaneous KDE logouts since recent upgrades (etch)
The problem happens when I leave the computer for a little while. The screensaver kicks in as normal and I'll return to the PC in say ten minutes and press a key/move the mouse. The screensaver clears and the desktop/application shows for a moment but then I'm logged out back to the KDM login screen and have to log myself in again. Are you, by any chance, using shadows or translucency? If so, disable them, and that will probably fix it. They are much more stable than they used to be, especially with the latest NVIDIA drivers, but they can still crash. If not, look in your Xorg.log and see if there are any errors. If that doesn't help, then make sure you're running the latest versions of...well...everything. You didn't say if you're running sarge, testing, sid, or what. If you're on testing or sid, upgrade and keep trying. If nothing else, try a dist-upgrade. I'd recommend running a debugger on X or KDM or whatever startkde runs, but I don't know how to do that; maybe someone else can step in there. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: File System - a stupid question ;)
Wodzu Wodzowski wrote: I want to install Debian on laptop, but I want to have ReiserFS/Reiser4 or XFS file system. I've found that I can convert/create partition with one of above file system. Can I install Sarge on Reiser/XFS partition?? If you want maximum data security, you might want to go with ext3. Just the other day when I was browsing LWN.net, I read about some folks who did some tests where they'd start writing to a log file, kill the box's power, and then see how readable the file's data and the filesystem were. ext3 only had unrecoverable errors two or three times, but everything else, including ReiserFS, had tens or hundreds of errors. ReiserFS may be faster in some ways, but for me, this made it clear which was the most reliable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: many segfaults scrolled by when updating with aptitude now X won't start
Daniel Johnson wrote: Last night I was doing a long overdue update on a system I use mostly for learning. Many things must have gone horribly wrong during the update as a result of all of the segfaults, but aptitude seemed to think it was a success. I'm not sure what all is broken, but I know that X for sure is broken, and no amount of forcing reinstallation of packages has worked so far. What I want to do is two fold. I want to tell debian to just go ahead, and try to reinstall everything, as it is probably still in the package cache, and I can't think of any other way to make sure all files got saved in place, and that the scripts in the packages got executed. And I want to check for stray files that may not have been deleted due to something like a segfault when it was attempting to rm a file. I feel like there has got to be some tools to do this kind of thing, but I haven't been able to figure out what can do either of those tasks yet after several hours of trying to figure it out on my own. Well, one simple thing is to run: $ sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb But there's no guarantee that will fix it; it seems like using a sledgehammer on a nail to me. For stray files...that's tougher. You might look into the tiger package, but you might end up having to do a lot of manual removal. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't open encrypted partitions
Have you checked the actual output of GPG? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cleaning /tmp regularly using bootclean.sh + crond
Tmpreaper probably does 'the right thing' However, if you mount /tmp with noatime, I don't see how tmpreaper would know what's safe to delete and what isn't. 'apt-cache show tmpreaper' says that it goes by access time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jerky PS/2 Mouse W/ 2.6 Kernel (Again)
Actually, I just posted. Within the past hour I just got it going with 2.6.15. But now I can't get sound to work (it seems to see the onboard audio and not the Soundblaster I was using) and I'm having problems with the scroll wheel in Firefox. Is the kernel not loading the Soundblaster modules, or is it a userspace problem? Are you using ALSA? Have you run alsaconf? You might need to set the x-axis mapping in your xorg.conf to fix the scroll wheel. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xsession error: unsupported number of arguments (2); falling back to default session
After a recent upgrade, I started getting this error when I log in with one user with KDM. It pops up in a little window with an okay button. After I click okay, it comes back, but after the second dismissal, KDE loads fine. It doesn't happen with every user, just my main one. I've Googled and can't find anything that helps. Any ideas would be appreciated. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jerky PS/2 Mouse W/ 2.6 Kernel (Again)
Which 2.6 kernel are you trying to use? There are at least fifteen different ones. :) I suggest trying the latest one in Debian that you can use (some require newer versions of things like udev, which you might or might not want to upgrade [I've had no problems with 2.6.15]). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intellimouse Explorer 4.0 wheel support buggy
Andreas Boegehold wrote: Hi, i have following problem: As soon as i move the mouse, the mouse wheel won't scroll anymore. I checked on the /dev/input/event2 device with input-events from the input-utils and it shows very few mouse wheel events passed from the kernel when i move the mouse (grepped it and 2-3 for several seconds of moving as opposed to many more when i hold the mouse still). The stupid thing is, that when i first boot to windows and then reboot to linux it works perfectly until i switch the computer off. What kernel are you using? Maybe you should try a newer one. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: logrotate + mysql = Help!
Eric d'Alibut wrote: On 1/7/06, Eric d'Alibut [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Done. I await the next cron run. Not much enlightenment from the verbosity: running shared postrotate script error: error running shared postrotate script for /var/log/mysql.log I wonder: what script is this referring to? It's running the shared postrotate script for /var/log/mysql.log, like it says. Look in the logrotate config for the shared postrotate script. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where is postrotate script? (was: logrotate + mysql = Help!)
Eric d'Alibut wrote: On 1/10/06, Jay Zach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: um... n/m I had a different error, I meant to reply to an older post by someone else who had the same error... Sorry for the mixup and getting your hopes up Still, who knows, maybe it'll work ;) No biggie; A for effort! I think my question now is, as reflected in the new and improved subject header, where is the postrotate script referenced by the error message? What is this thing? Please don't start a new thread for this. I already replied in the original thread. Making new threads is a good way to lose the people who are already trying to help you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-listbugs and security
Step 1: Subscribe to Debian security lists. Step 2: (If you're really serious about security) Subscribe to relevant package security lists (upstream). Step 3: apt-get update/upgrade regularly for security updates Step 4: (Most importantly) Make regular backups, on- and off-site. Step 5: (Again, if really serious) Investigate setting up a decent logging system to detect breaches. I'm not trying to discourage you from using Debian, it's great, but you may want to look at the next release of Ubuntu Server, which will have security support for five years. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mobile Phone Software
On Monday 09 January 2006 12:34, Thomas wrote: Adam Porter wrote: Bitpim might be what you need. I've no idea if it supports your phone, but it's a really nice cross-platform Python app that will even let you backup your entire phone (all the internal filesystem structure), along with nice interfaces for more prominent features. It's even in Debian. :) Thanx a lot for the hint. The screenshots look very much like what i had in mind. In what repo can i find it exactly? Im on Sarge stable, i looked into unstable but no package called bitpim in there. If i download the rpm from the dev site and convert with alien, it will install but fail to start: Traceback (most recent call last): File /opt/cx_Freeze-3.0.1/initscripts/ConsoleSetLibPath.py, line 30, in ? File bp.py, line 83, in ? File gui.py, line 29, in ? File /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/wx-2.6-gtk2-unicode/wx/__init__.py, line 42, in ? File /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/wx-2.6-gtk2-unicode/wx/_core.py, line 4, in ? File ExtensionLoader.py, line 12, in ? ImportError: libtiff.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory # whereis libtiff libtiff: /usr/lib/libtiff.a /usr/lib/libtiff.la /usr/lib/libtiff.so /usr/share/man/man3/libtiff.3tiff.gz ? How can i get it to work? Sorry, I forgot that I had to convert it with Alien. I don't know why it's nor working for you. FYI, I have BitPim 0.8.3, which isn't the latest release. I have this version of libtiff: libtiff4: Installed: 3.7.4-1 Candidate: 3.7.4-1 Version table: *** 3.7.4-1 0 650 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main Packages 600 http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 3.7.2-3 0 500 http://ftp.us.debian.org sarge/main Packages libtiffxx0c2: Installed: 3.7.4-1 Candidate: 3.7.4-1 Version table: *** 3.7.4-1 0 650 http://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main Packages 600 http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status If installing those doesn't fix it, maybe it's something to do with your Python installation. I don't recall having to do anything other than install the deb package converted by Alien. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [SOLVED]Re: apt ignores apt.conf settings
Could you please attach here your pinning options ? Default-Release does work but causes me other problems that I believe would be solved by using pinning. Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 650 Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 600 Package: * Pin: release a=experimental Pin-Priority: 1 Thank you for helping. Glad to. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommendation for newsreader
Uwe Heinz Rudi Dippel wrote: Now I'd really appreciate your recommendation for a method or apparatus to handle groups with large numbers of messages in a suitable and reasonably fast manner. groups.google.com :) Seriously though, I use KNode, but I haven't begun to approach that many messages. I don't keep a local archive of the group; if I need to search more I use Google. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trouble with nvidia glx.
Where did you get the glx module? You didn't mention installing the nvidia-glx package. If nothing else works, you might try switching to Xorg (I know it's not in Sarge, but neither is 2.6.14 or the new nVidia drivers. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mobile Phone Software
Bitpim might be what you need. I've no idea if it supports your phone, but it's a really nice cross-platform Python app that will even let you backup your entire phone (all the internal filesystem structure), along with nice interfaces for more prominent features. It's even in Debian. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How can I prevent custom build packages from downgrading
You can use apt preferences to pin the packages you want. Aptitude might have a simpler way, and Synaptic also lets you do this, but if you want to do it the low-level way, you can find help in the apt (and perhaps apt-src and apt-build) man pages, and on Google. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt ignores apt.conf settings
Where did you find those settings for APT::Periodic? I've never heard of them, and my searches turned up dry. Are you expecting that setting those will cause apt-get or aptitude to automatically download new packages? I don't think that's the case; something has to actually execute the commands to download--apt isn't a daemon. For authentication, a better solution would be to add the keys to apt's keyring; by working around it you're throwing out the security it offers. For the default release, well, I don't know about APT::Default-Release, but I know that pinning in /etc/apt/preferences works. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: APT options and dpkg
Well, you're a DD, so you oughta know more than me, but I'll bite. :) Can you be more specific than, this does not work? Have you tried purging and reinstalling the package? I guess you could also get the file out of the package and replace it manually. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: TCP not working over ppp connection (WAS: 5th day using Linux...)
Tyson Varosyan wrote: Also, why would my post be burred? I am unfamiliar with the way this mailing list works but have been surprised by the low number of responces... I do not want to SPAM the list, but I really need to get my box online... You posted your first message by replying to another thread, instead of posting a message from scratch. Most clients will set the References: header when you do that, which causes the receiving clients to display your message as a child of the references. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GPG error on apt-get update
Chinook wrote: Joey Hess wrote: Bernd Prager wrote: Hi, I'm getting a GPG error when I execute an apt-get update: ... But root has the required keys in the pubring: I've been following this issue and also did: debian1:/home/leec# wget http://ftp-master.debian.org/ziyi_key_2005.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add - debian1:/home/leec# wget http://ftp-master.debian.org/ziyi_key_2006.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add - The wgets were successful but didn't help the Not Authenticated issue. They have to be in apt's keyring, man apt-key. So how do you get them there Joey? That's the part I've missed in Check the list for the last few days Adam. The two commands above that pipe to apt-key should do it. They worked fine here (I just installed the 2006 key). Grasping at straws here...have you apt-get updated since then? Do you have any non-Debian repos in your sources.list? For example, I have nerim.net and a few others, but many of them also have signing keys, just like Debian. A few don't, but I just ignore the warnings on those. Are you running the latest version of apt? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Streaming video
Mark, just FYI, your mail client isn't sending References: headers, so your replies aren't showing up in the same thread. You may want to switch clients, or use an NNTP interface, like GMANE. Makes it harder to track threads and follow up. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GPG error on apt-get update
Check the list for the last few days. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: about vlc and libmodplug0
Sinan Nalkaya wrote: hi, I am using Debian Etch, i want to install vlc, then i got this error The following packages have unmet dependencies: vlc: Depends: libmodplug0 (= 1:0.7-1) but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages after that i try to install libmodplug0 but i am noticed that, apt wants to remove the Gnome and gnome environment. The following packages will be REMOVED: gnome gnome-desktop-environment libmodplug0c2 libxine1 totem totem-xine The following NEW packages will be installed: even i compile the vlc from its source i need libmodplug, how can i install that without removing gnome. I'm still a relative newbie to Debian, but I think the problem stems from the fact that there is not a vlc package in testing. Are you trying to install vlc from Sarge or unstable? It looks like you're trying to use the version from Sarge, but that version is old. Try the version from unstable. If you still have problems, it probably needs some newer libs than you have in testing. To fix that, you can probably just compile the package yourself. Use apt-src, like this: $ mkdir vlc-src $ cd vlc-src $ apt-src -b install vlc $ sudo dpkg -i vlc*.deb However, there is another problem: there is no source package for vlc in unstable. I have no idea why, and packages.debian.org is down right now. Maybe some Googling would reveal the answer, but right now I don't feel like digging for that. :) Unfortunately, compiling the version in Sarge also seems problematic. Trying to 'apt-get build-dep vlc/stable' complains about libhal-dev, but that source package doesn't even specify a version of libhal-dev, and even after installing libhal-dev, dpkg-buildpackage doesn't like it. I don't know what's going on with vlc right now. What I do know is that I have the version from unstable installed and working. I'm afraid you may have to bite the bullet and install vlc from unstable, which will probably bring some other dependencies with it, which may require upgrading some other packages. Or, you could A) try to work around the problem with the Sarge version's build dependencies, which may be possible; or B) download the source from VideoLAN and try to compile it manually, which I would recommend finishing up with checkinstall, rather than letting the build system install it for you. Hm...not so simple is it? It shouldn't be this hard. I would guess that the vlc package is going through some kind of transition, but a more concrete answer is probably out there somewhere. What do I recommend? I would just go ahead and install the version from unstable, and whatever else it requires, unless there's some reason you can't upgrade whatever else it wants to upgrade. If that is not viable, try option B (remembering that you'll need to manually install some -dev packages to compile it). If that doesn't work, try option A (also requiring some manual intervention). Of course, the other, other option is to use a different video player. Kaffeine is pretty nice with the Xine backend; its hotkey support is pretty good for full-screen use. Then there's MPlayer, etc. Whew! Hope this helps somehow. Maybe a more veteran user will chime in and render all this moot. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound Device Not Shared
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if I stop the application which is using the sound device and then other application can use the sound device... its more like exclusive access to the sound device by ALSA even if there is a warning sound from Anti-virus program, sound device get locked and I can not play music anymore until I close Anti-virus program. Like Colin and I said, configure the app to use ALSA, or use aoss to wrap it. BTW, your Notes e-mail is not sending any 'References:' headers, which means that your replies do not always show up in the thread. It was just luck that I saw your reply, because it wasn't showing up in the same thread. You might want to use a better e-mail client for lists. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: logrotate + mysql = Help!
Eric d'Alibut wrote: I have a Debian stable install that runs smoothly; uptime is seventy three days. Just lately I am getting these system emails: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate: error: error running shared postrotate script for /var/log/mysql.log /var/log/mysql/mysql.log /var/log/mysql.err /var/log/mysql/mysql.err /var/log/mysql/mysql-slow.log run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate exited with return code 1 I am clueless as to how to debug this error. I am, in fact, a mysql moron. Any input would be appreciated! I know little about logrotate or mysqld, but a quick 'man logrotate' turned up the '-v' switch that causes verbose output. Then, using your log, I ran 'less /etc/cron.daily/logrotate' and found the line that executes logrotate. Maybe if you add the verbose switch there, next time it runs it will give you more detail (though perhaps more than you want). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Loadable kernel modules not unloadable
OT, but how come you want to prevent it from loading? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Streaming video
You might try KMplayer, which is a KDE frontend for MPlayer. If you open the stream in that, you can easily use full-screen. It's not in Debian, but you can Google for the repo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound Device Not Shared
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using ALSA and the only issue is if an application is using Sound device (/dev/dsp) and another application is trying to use it, it says /dev/dsp is already in use. What can I do it share the sound device?? If I understand ALSA correctly, you should not be using /dev/anything. ALSA specifies devices differently, e.g. hw:0,0 for card 0, device 0. If your app is wanting to use /dev/dsp, it may not be set up to use ALSA. Either configure it to use ALSA instead of OSS, or run the program with an ALSA wrapper, like aoss (man aoss for help). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian-installer and loop-aes
Andreas Ehn wrote: [2] Is there another disk encryption tool that's better, or is loop-aes the way to go? LUKS is supposed to be the future, but it's not in Debian proper yet. You can use it if you install it manually, but I read that there may be another on-disk format change coming. I'm not sure if that's true, but if it is, it would be wise to wait until the change happens. I may be wrong, but I think the current state-of-the-art in Debian is cryptsetup. Works well, AFAIK. I think there's at least one article on www.debian-administration.org about it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Burning CDs from ISO image - possible?
Wackojacko wrote: In k3b try Tools-Burn CD Image. Also, in Konqueror, just right-click the ISO, Actions-Burn... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian version?
Don wrote: Is there a quick and easy means of determining what version I have installed? What's in /etc/apt/sources.list? Anything in /etc/apt/preferences? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian version?
Don wrote: On Wednesday 04 January 2006 12:20 am, Adam Porter wrote: When I read your email I realized I may not have been quite as clear as I should have been. I am curious as to what version of Debian I have installed now. However here is the answer to your questions in case that helps. The CD's listed are commented out and not used. /etc/apt/preferences arthur:/home/casper# cat /etc/apt/sources.list ... deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free arthur:/home/casper# cat /etc/apt/preferences cat: /etc/apt/preferences: No such file or directory Ok, from that you can see that apt is using stable, which is currently Sarge. Assuming you've run a dist-upgrade sometime since Sarge was released, you're running Sarge. If you haven't dist-upgraded since then, you could be running Woody. I'm not sure about /etc/debian_version. I can't recall how, but I know I remember setting that manually to testing/unstable at some point when asked by debconf, I think. So it may not be a reliable indicator of what you have installed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: please help -- debian crontab and at problem
I googled for azureus console and the first hit should answer your question. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Calender, To-do, and other PDA-like software for Debian
Evolution, Kontact...those are pretty obvious. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dedicated Hosting, recommendations - Debian
You might look into Dreamhost. You can get some good coupon deals too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X.Org Hits Testing: Xorg synaptics touchpad problem?
Was the kernel upgraded? Check dmesg. Is the kernel module getting loaded? Is it saying anything on boot? All we know right now is that X can't find it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Easy Debian Wireless 101
There are several web sites dedicated to WiFi on Linux, with extensive lists of cards and how they are supported. Google is your friend. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Canonizing Local KDE Installation
Wow. :) I'm no expert, but it seems to me you might as well just package up your build of 3.4.3--not that that's an easy task. Sorry I can't be of more help. Good luck. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NVidia with Xorg (testing)
The answer can also be found on wiki.debian.org. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde dead after update
Enrique Morfin wrote: Now i'm working without ksplash. Glad you figured it out. You might want to file a bug on it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
