Re: Wheezy GRUB problem
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Tue 05 Aug 2014 at 09:36:18 +0200, Artifex Maximus wrote: Hello! I have a Wheezy system shared with MS XP. GRUB is not in MBR but in Debian partition installed. Not recommended I know but basically works. Until last upgrade when my GRUB loader only writes GRUB then halts. Or at least not continue loading. No errors just stops. I have tried latest (7.6.0) Debian install disc Recovery function to reinstall grub with grub-install /dev/sda2 without success. Still just a GRUB line on screen when Debian partition is active. When I switch active partition back to XP it runs. I am able to mount sda2 from Debian installer and there is no fsck error. What messages did you get when did 'grub-install /dev/sda2'? Sorry I cannot recall exactly but something about some /dev/sda2/... file when execute shell on mounted /dev/sda2. With installer environment there was no grub-install just grub-installer. Because I do not know what is the difference I had not enough courage to execute. The good new I was able to recover my system with supergrub disk. I was able to boot into my original system with supergrub then update-grub. For sure I run grub-install -f /dev/sda2 and now I am using my good old Debian system. What was strange I got a lot of errors about fake start-stop-daemon and needed to rename start-stop-daemon.REAL to start-stop-daemon for a successful boot. No idea at all what, when, and why created that fake start-stop-daemon script. Hope no more surprise in my system. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/capkuxveouae+-uv1wmkjlb1ybjuowivx41pddthorjgszbh...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Wheezy GRUB problem
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Gary Dale garyd...@torfree.net wrote: On 05/08/14 03:36 AM, Artifex Maximus wrote: Hello! I have a Wheezy system shared with MS XP. GRUB is not in MBR but in Debian partition installed. Not recommended I know but basically works. Until last upgrade when my GRUB loader only writes GRUB then halts. Or at least not continue loading. No errors just stops. I have tried latest (7.6.0) Debian install disc Recovery function to reinstall grub with grub-install /dev/sda2 without success. Still just a GRUB line on screen when Debian partition is active. When I switch active partition back to XP it runs. I am able to mount sda2 from Debian installer and there is no fsck error. So my MBR is good and there is some error in sda2 partition loader which I cannot recover with grub-install. Any idea where to go then? Bye, a Why not try installing grub in the MBR? It usually can boot both Windows XP and Linux without problems. If you were using a version of Windows that required UEFI then you night have a problem, but not with XP. Thanks for your answer. I would like to keep my current configuration because it is more flexible I think. For example I just had to change boot partition to XP for a successful boot which is a very simple process. I've found supergrubdisk project and I will give it a try. I hope that works. As a last resort I would like to know how to convert my loader from VBR GRUB to MBR GRUB? Bye, a
Wheezy GRUB problem
Hello! I have a Wheezy system shared with MS XP. GRUB is not in MBR but in Debian partition installed. Not recommended I know but basically works. Until last upgrade when my GRUB loader only writes GRUB then halts. Or at least not continue loading. No errors just stops. I have tried latest (7.6.0) Debian install disc Recovery function to reinstall grub with grub-install /dev/sda2 without success. Still just a GRUB line on screen when Debian partition is active. When I switch active partition back to XP it runs. I am able to mount sda2 from Debian installer and there is no fsck error. So my MBR is good and there is some error in sda2 partition loader which I cannot recover with grub-install. Any idea where to go then? Bye, a
gnome-session-fallback upgrade problem on sid
Hello, I would like to upgrade my sid system and on dist-upgrade get the following error: Calculating upgrade... Failed The following packages have unmet dependencies: gnome-session-fallback : Depends: metacity (= 2.30) but it is not going to be installed E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. About the packages: # dpkg --list | egrep -- '(gnome-session-fallback|metacity)' ii gnome-session-fallback3.4.2.1-4 all GNOME Session Manager - GNOME fallback session ii libmetacity-private0a 1:2.34.13-1 amd64library for the Metacity window manager ii metacity 1:2.34.13-1 amd64lightweight GTK+ window manager ii metacity-common 1:2.34.13-1 all shared files for the Metacity window manager So I already have metacity with the required version (= 2.30) and do not understand why that depends problem exists. Might not the metacity package itself but any of its dependency have problem? How can I find which one? Simple upgrade instead of dist-upgrade is working though but with a lot of kept back packages. The following packages have been kept back: aptitude aptitude-common cheese cheese-common epiphany-browser epiphany-browser-data gir1.2-totem-1.0 glade gnome-sushi inkscape krb5-multidev libgladeui-common libgssapi-krb5-2 libgssrpc4 libk5crypto3 libkadm5clnt-mit8 libkadm5srv-mit8 libkrb5-3 libkrb5-dev libkrb5support0 libtotem0 llvm-3.2 llvm-3.2-dev llvm-3.2-runtime perl perl-base perl-modules totem totem-common totem-mozilla totem-plugins Thanks, a
Re: Gnome recommends iceweasel-l10n-all
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: On 16.10.2012 18:29, Artifex Maximus wrote: when package selector able to choose at least one package to fulfill requirement. For example gcc recommends libc6-dev | libc-dev and not both. What might work is the following: All iceweasel-l10n-* packages have a Provides: iceweasel-l10-langpack and in gnome we depend on Depends: iceweasel-l10-all | iceweasel-l10-langpack This would allow you to uninstall the languages you don't need/want, while still making sure we have a fully translated iceweasel for everyone. Sorry for return to this topic. I've tried to remove not necessary languages and -all becomes broken package because of dependency. This is not wanted so I cancel the process. So now I have a lot of packages which just waste disk space. Similar to myspell. Would be great to polish dependency a little for them. I'm not pushing just an idea. :-) Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capkuxvelykzncfucb27enujgernjh6_exd3_64t7thkjyva...@mail.gmail.com
Re: No sound on Wheezy
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 11:45:35AM +, Artifex Maximus wrote: On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Mi, 24 oct 12, 10:22:57, Artifex Maximus wrote: # aplay -L default Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server sysdefault:CARD=Intel HDA Intel, ALC887-VD Analog Default Audio Device ... # speaker-test -c 2 -D sysdefault speaker-test 1.0.25 Playback device is sysdefault Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels Using 16 octaves of pink noise ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy It seems like pulseaudio is interfering. Try stopping it first. Thanks. I've tried but still no sound even I got no resource busy error this time. Just to be sure I reboot into Windows and there was sound so my audio card and the connection to the loudspeaker is good. Having recently run into this myself, try the following: # speaker-test -t wav -c 2 -D hw:0,0 # speaker-test -t wav -c 2 -D hw:1,0 # speaker-test -t wav -c 2 -D hw:2,0 (You have three devices, but perhaps not all of them are (say) capable of playing PCM sound. In my case, I had an analog and a digital output and the wrong one was device 0). Thank you. Where those hw numbers come from? I tried the following under Gnome: # speaker-test -t wav -c 2 -D hw:0,0 speaker-test 1.0.25 Playback device is hw:0,0 Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels WAV file(s) Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy # /etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop [warn] PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions ... (warning). # speaker-test -t wav -c 2 -D hw:0,0 speaker-test 1.0.25 Playback device is hw:0,0 Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels WAV file(s) Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy # speaker-test -t wav -c 2 -D hw:1,0 speaker-test 1.0.25 Playback device is hw:1,0 Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels WAV file(s) Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory # speaker-test -t wav -c 2 -D hw:2,0 speaker-test 1.0.25 Playback device is hw:2,0 Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels WAV file(s) Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory Just wondering what change does in second number: # speaker-test -t wav -c 2 -D hw:0,1 speaker-test 1.0.25 Playback device is hw:0,1 Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels WAV file(s) Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz) Buffer size range from 64 to 16384 Period size range from 32 to 8192 Using max buffer size 16384 Periods = 4 was set period_size = 4096 was set buffer_size = 16384 0 - Front Left 1 - Front Right Time per period = 2,730392 0 - Front Left 1 - Front Right Time per period = 2,986731 0 - Front Left 1 - Front Right Still no sound. So no success. # aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog [ALC887-VD Analog] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC887-VD Digital [ALC887-VD Digital] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 1: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 I think this means that alsa detect my audio device. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capkuxvgpnseiy4vdotd_urdw4s2ccpby4_tju9ls92uz176...@mail.gmail.com
Re: No sound on Wheezy
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 01:53:05PM +0200, Artifex Maximus wrote: Thank you. Where those hw numbers come from? I tried the following under Gnome: The parameters to hw:x,y are X = Card number and Y = Device on that card. I think I misread your output of aplay -l earlier. Looking at the one at the end of this email, I see you actually have hw:0,0 (the ALC887-VD Analog), hw:0,1 (the ALC887-VD Digital) and hw:1,3 (the HDMI 0). Hopefully you can see how I've worked out those device names from the output? Thanks for make that clear. If you're wanting to use the analog output (i.e. normal, metal cables), then we still have an issue. I notice that pulseaudio gave a warning when you tried to stop it; pulseaudio -k should kill any user-initiated daemons. To be sure, try running sudo lsof|egrep 'snd|dsp|NAME' to see if anything else is using your sound device. I expand the command a little and the result is: # lsof +c0 | egrep 'snd|dsp' | cut -d' ' -f1 | sort | uniq alsa-sink alsa-source dconf gconf-helper gdbus gmain gnome-settings- gnome-shell pulseaudio sd_dummy threaded-ml I changed my pulseaudio to system mode instead of user mode in /etc/default/pulseaudio. Now I have Built-in audio under system audio settings and sound is working. In user mode there was no sound. Permission problem? Do I need some special permission to use audio device under pulseaudio? Previously I reboot my system into single user mode and was able to use speaker-test successfully. So ALSA definitely detect my card. alsamixer master volume was 0 so I need to change before. Under Gnome every audio slider is on max even alsamixer one. The output under single user mode: Hardware PCM card 0 'HDA Intel' device 0 subdevice 0 Its setup is: stream : PLAYBACK access : RW_INTERLEAVED format : S16_LE subformat: STD channels : 2 rate : 48000 exact rate : 48000 (48000/1) msbits : 16 buffer_size : 16384 period_size : 4096 period_time : 85333 tstamp_mode : NONE period_step : 1 avail_min: 4096 period_event : 0 start_threshold : 16384 stop_threshold : 16384 silence_threshold: 0 silence_size : 0 boundary : 4611686018427387904 appl_ptr : 0 hw_ptr : 0 speaker-test 1.0.25 Playback device is hw:0,0 Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels WAV file(s) Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz) Buffer size range from 64 to 16384 Period size range from 32 to 8192 Using max buffer size 16384 Periods = 4 was set period_size = 4096 was set buffer_size = 16384 0 - Front Left 1 - Front Right In short. Under single user mode I am able to use speaker-test after setting master volume to non zero value. Under Gnome there is sound in system mode pulseaudio but no sound in non system mode. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capkuxvfspooo6tlwqwtc04euy94ekk0t--mv4_gegjavw58...@mail.gmail.com
Re: No sound on Wheezy
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Mi, 24 oct 12, 10:22:57, Artifex Maximus wrote: # aplay -L default Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server sysdefault:CARD=Intel HDA Intel, ALC887-VD Analog Default Audio Device ... # speaker-test -c 2 -D sysdefault speaker-test 1.0.25 Playback device is sysdefault Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels Using 16 octaves of pink noise ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy It seems like pulseaudio is interfering. Try stopping it first. Thanks. I've tried but still no sound even I got no resource busy error this time. Just to be sure I reboot into Windows and there was sound so my audio card and the connection to the loudspeaker is good. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capkuxvemejayzq_wzntwb83dqbwyt+0l-g+0g3omfxp0xn_...@mail.gmail.com
No sound on Wheezy
Hello! I am using a Wheezy 64 bit on a machine with integrated audio and ATI 5570 video card with HDMI (but I am using DVI-HDMI converter). Gnome audio find only HDMI audio which I cannot use because of converter. I search on Google find some solution and found how to disable HDMI audio. I add the following to the modprobe blacklist snd_hda_intel blacklist snd_hda_codec_hdmi Next start my system did not detect the HDMI audio and did not detect the internal audio as well so I have only Dummy Output for sound which is bad. I try to blacklist only the snd_hda_coded_hdmi but no success. What is the problem? I am using fglrx for video which was an another adventurous task to get work. lspci -v extract for audio: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8445 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 44 Memory at feafc000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [60] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+ Capabilities: [70] Express Root Complex Integrated Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel Capabilities: [130] Root Complex Link Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel 01:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Redwood HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5000 Series] Subsystem: Hightech Information System Ltd. Device aa60 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 45 Memory at febf8000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [58] Express Legacy Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [a0] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+ Capabilities: [100] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0001 Rev=1 Len=010 ? Capabilities: [150] Advanced Error Reporting Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel # cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDA Intel at 0xfeafc000 irq 44 1 [U0x46d0x824]: USB-Audio - USB Device 0x46d:0x824 USB Device 0x46d:0x824 at usb-:00:1d.7-4, high speed 2 [Generic]: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic HD-Audio Generic at 0xfebf8000 irq 45 # cat /proc/asound/modules 0 snd_hda_intel 1 snd_usb_audio 2 snd_hda_intel # cat /proc/asound/hwdep 00-00: HDA Codec 0 02-00: HDA Codec 0 # cat /proc/asound/version Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24. # cat /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/info card: 0 device: 0 subdevice: 0 stream: CAPTURE id: ALC887-VD Analog name: ALC887-VD Analog subname: subdevice #0 class: 0 subclass: 0 subdevices_count: 1 subdevices_avail: 1 # cat /proc/asound/card2/codec#0 Codec: ATI ID aa01 Address: 0 AFG Function Id: 0x1 (unsol 0) Vendor Id: 0x1002aa01 Subsystem Id: 0x00aa0100 Revision Id: 0x100200 No Modem Function Group found Default PCM: rates [0x70]: 32000 44100 48000 bits [0x2]: 16 formats [0x1]: PCM Default Amp-In caps: N/A Default Amp-Out caps: N/A GPIO: io=0, o=0, i=0, unsolicited=0, wake=0 Node 0x02 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x201: Stereo Digital Converter: stream=0, channel=0 Digital: Digital category: 0x0 Node 0x03 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400381: Stereo Digital Pincap 0x0094: OUT Detect HDMI Pin Default 0x18560010: [Jack] Digital Out at Int HDMI Conn = Digital, Color = Unknown DefAssociation = 0x1, Sequence = 0x0 Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT Unsolicited: tag=00, enabled=0 Connection: 1 0x02 dmesg: [5.585011] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio [5.668845] snd_hda_intel :00:1b.0: PCI INT A - GSI 21 (level, low) - IRQ 21 [5.668886] snd_hda_intel :00:1b.0: irq 44 for MSI/MSI-X [5.668908] snd_hda_intel :00:1b.0: setting latency timer to 64 [5.729542] hda_codec: ALC887-VD: BIOS auto-probing. [5.736767] input: HDA Intel Headphone as /devices/pci:00/:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input5 [5.737778] snd_hda_intel :01:00.1: PCI INT B - GSI 17 (level, low) - IRQ 17 [5.737819] snd_hda_intel :01:00.1: irq 45 for MSI/MSI-X [5.737836] snd_hda_intel :01:00.1: setting latency timer to 64 I am not using audio every day but I think that I lost audio when installed fglrx but not sure. The USB audio is related to my webcam. I am looking for some solution probably others have same problem. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPkuXvE0=kjeq8wAM=4rca5pnixdu-fud4spvqcpxt7uvm2...@mail.gmail.com
Re: No sound on Wheezy
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Mi, 24 oct 12, 09:38:08, Artifex Maximus wrote: I am using a Wheezy 64 bit on a machine with integrated audio and ATI 5570 video card with HDMI (but I am using DVI-HDMI converter). Gnome audio find only HDMI audio which I cannot use because of converter. I search on Google find some solution and found how to disable HDMI audio. I add the following to the modprobe blacklist snd_hda_intel blacklist snd_hda_codec_hdmi Instead of blacklisting I would try to route the audio through the non-HDMI device, if one exists. 'aplay -L' will show you all devices to route audio and you can test them one by one with speaker-test -c 2 -D device Thanks for your answer. No sound on speaker even speaker-test says so. # aplay -L default Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server sysdefault:CARD=Intel HDA Intel, ALC887-VD Analog Default Audio Device front:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, ALC887-VD Analog Front speakers surround40:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, ALC887-VD Analog 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers surround41:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, ALC887-VD Analog 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround50:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, ALC887-VD Analog 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers surround51:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, ALC887-VD Analog 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround71:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, ALC887-VD Analog 7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers iec958:CARD=Intel,DEV=0 HDA Intel, ALC887-VD Digital IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output # speaker-test -c 2 -D default speaker-test 1.0.25 Playback device is default Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels Using 16 octaves of pink noise Rate set to 48000Hz (requested 48000Hz) Buffer size range from 96 to 1048576 Period size range from 32 to 349526 Using max buffer size 1048576 Periods = 4 was set period_size = 262144 was set buffer_size = 1048576 0 - Front Left 1 - Front Right Time per period = 12,492867 0 - Front Left # speaker-test -c 2 -D sysdefault speaker-test 1.0.25 Playback device is sysdefault Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels Using 16 octaves of pink noise ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy # speaker-test -c 2 -D front speaker-test 1.0.25 Playback device is front Stream parameters are 48000Hz, S16_LE, 2 channels Using 16 octaves of pink noise Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy Same error for other devices. As background information. Basically I have problem with my Windows XP ATI driver with HDMI cable as cannot set overscan right. Therefore I need to use DVI-HDMI converter. My monitor have audio output and able to output audio from selected HDMI (I am using my PS3 with that way) but because of XP driver problem I cannot use pure HDMI for Desktop PC. My bad but looking for other solution on Debian side. If I am remember correctly Debian was able to handle overscan perfectly on pure HDMI setup. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capkuxvf4a-myw4fweym0gpzbdybmgi2bb0c4sa9mhermycn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Gnome recommends iceweasel-l10n-all
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: On 16.10.2012 18:29, Artifex Maximus wrote: On last Wheezy upgrade my system install all iceweasel-l10-* packages because gnome recommends -all package. Is it normal? I only need This is wanted, yes. To get a translated iceweasel. Thanks for your answer. Right but not in all languages. English and/or my native language and nothing else. Should be better to recommends only/at least one language I think. There is some logic What language would that be? Just picking one wouldn't work for everyone and be unfair to e.g. non-English speaking people (say we picked iceweasel-l10-en). English and your localization (which used/selected at installation). English is not installed by default? Or is it possible to install iceweasel without any language? What happens then? No menus and no texts? Unfortunately it is not possible to express a dependency on a package depending the language that was used during system installation. I see. That's a problem because that would be nice. when package selector able to choose at least one package to fulfill requirement. For example gcc recommends libc6-dev | libc-dev and not both. What might work is the following: All iceweasel-l10n-* packages have a Provides: iceweasel-l10-langpack and in gnome we depend on Depends: iceweasel-l10-all | iceweasel-l10-langpack I am not a package manager expert but sounds good. This would allow you to uninstall the languages you don't need/want, while still making sure we have a fully translated iceweasel for everyone. You are right but should be better to choose only one or two than download and install all then later uninstall several. I am asking because I had only English iceweasel at first install even if my mother tongue is not English but at last upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade unnecessarily installed a lot of iceweasel and myspell languages because of dependencies. If I choose simple upgrade some gnome packages were kept back. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPkuXvEqnZCr1pa1fZA85bL38YhME=hhi2dvngdmh_-y6yu...@mail.gmail.com
Gnome recommends iceweasel-l10n-all
Hello! On last Wheezy upgrade my system install all iceweasel-l10-* packages because gnome recommends -all package. Is it normal? I only need English and/or my native language and nothing else. Should be better to recommends only/at least one language I think. There is some logic when package selector able to choose at least one package to fulfill requirement. For example gcc recommends libc6-dev | libc-dev and not both. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capkuxvf7r7-q1nhhjxcxtdjpau5ke8qt-+tfxw8eoxh9ro6...@mail.gmail.com
Re: rtorrent on low_disk_space.
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 8:00 AM, Sthu Deus sthu.d...@gmail.com wrote: I think you need registration there. I can not find the list! May, You know one? http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/MailingLists What prelocate means? Preallocate disk space for torrent content? rtorrent takes disk space before it actually fills it w/ torrent data. I.e. torrent can be downloaded just 1% while on the disk it is located for whole 100%. - So, though there is little free space remain, yet the torrent can be successfully downloaded/uploaded already - but the amazing (uncontrollable for me) check, prevents that to happen. Thanks. Which version are you using? I am using latest git revision on FreeBSD and only selected files use disk space others are zero in length. I wrote a little script which links rtorrent and libtorrent statically and makes easy to use side-by-side with stable version. Now I do not understand your logic. Do you want to download bigger torrent than your free space? How? You need as much space as your torrent because torrent needs your downloaded chunks. Or just select files which you want to download and that occupies (nearly) as much space as your selection. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capkuxvfqaq6mzs1kibcll0hvkdsnhgb-pqgpf6ngzzbomqa...@mail.gmail.com
Re: rtorrent on low_disk_space.
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Sthu Deus sthu.d...@gmail.com wrote: I can not configure rtorrent to close on low disk space - it just closes on start after several seconds. In schedule = watch_low_diskspace,300,1200,close_low_diskspace=1 Better to ask similar question on rtorrent list I think. How much free space do you have when rtorrent stops? I have this line in my configuration: schedule = low_diskspace,5,60,close_low_diskspace=500M and working as intended. I do not see any M at the end of your line. Might that a problem. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPkuXvGHyo9E2_ukGioPLW_C4JpLYP=ydpge0rxmbnujock...@mail.gmail.com
Gnome problem on Wheezy
Hello! I have a problem with my Gnome 3 on Wheezy latest at system start. Sometimes my Gnome does not come up just stops in middle of loading. Seeing no Activities menu, not my name and network icon is red crossed. System does not react to my mouse clicks. If I switch to a terminal with Ctrl-Alt-F1 login as root and restart gdm3 service Gnome start right. What is the problem? Where is any information or log file why loading was stopped? Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capkuxvhutoiaf3u8fxzu6rfughgqh0xhmd53mrfesxtraxo...@mail.gmail.com
Re: rtorrent on low_disk_space.
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Sthu Deus sthu.d...@gmail.com wrote: Better to ask similar question on rtorrent list I think. How much free OK. I will try unless registration is needed. Otherwise we will wait, may somebody knows the trick. I think you need registration there. space do you have when rtorrent stops? I have this line in my configuration: schedule = low_diskspace,5,60,close_low_diskspace=500M and working as intended. I do not see any M at the end of your line. Might that a problem. I have really low space but: 1. rtorrent prelocates torrents - therefore, torrents can be and really are downloaded except this check that fight w/ in vain. What prelocate means? Preallocate disk space for torrent content? 3. I would like to manage it, nevertheless, for example, to put limit to 100 MB instead. Just change 500M to 100M. Or 1M if you like. But recommended not to set it too low because rtorrent checks with a specified interval and if your system fills your disk faster than free space within the interval your disk becomes full earlier than next check. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPkuXvF9CR=S=SqMYmyCBa0BeV6dEC9UvwYqMig=eybks56...@mail.gmail.com
Re: GRUB problem after clone
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sat 29 Sep 2012 at 18:56:43 +0200, Artifex Maximus wrote: On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: At the GRUB prompt press the 'e' key. Please post what you see. There will probably be a long UUID. To save some typing put 123 for it. Thanks. Might I was not clean. This is not grub prompt just a GRUB line on the screen. Keys even ctrl-alt-del don't work. I assume this is the output of loader in the boot sector of sda2. No, you clearly described your situation. It was me who mangled it. I think what I wanted to say was the UUID of the partition in grub.cfg would not be the same as before the cloning, so the file needs editing. blkid would be used to get the new UUID. Alternatively, deleting the search line and having the linux line as linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda2 might work. Just for the record. I download the latest Wheezy DVD and try to recover GRUB under rescue mode. No success still only displaying GRUB at boot and nothing else. Then do some more search and found the following page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair As Ubuntu is based on Debian I choose as the recommended way to go. Then I turn to this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuSecureRemix Downloaded and use boot repair application to reinstall(?) GRUB on sda2 and finally my GRUB is working and I was able to load Debian. Then upgrade my Debian system and because there was GRUB upgrade as well the upgrade asked me what is the boot system as my device.map is changed. I select sda2 and upgrade do the rest. So now I am happy Debian user again on a bigger drive. Thanks for all of your help. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPkuXvGd-6MEtMQBz_3x3FMrpdhYKgXyX2bPLNsXWtb6=n6...@mail.gmail.com
Re: GRUB problem after clone
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
On Sat 29 Sep 2012 at 18:56:43 +0200, Artifex Maximus wrote:
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
At the GRUB prompt press the 'e' key. Please post what you see. There
will probably be a long UUID. To save some typing put 123 for it.
Thanks. Might I was not clean. This is not grub prompt just a GRUB
line on the screen. Keys even ctrl-alt-del don't work. I assume this
is the output of loader in the boot sector of sda2.
No, you clearly described your situation. It was me who mangled it. I
think what I wanted to say was the UUID of the partition in grub.cfg
would not be the same as before the cloning, so the file needs editing.
blkid would be used to get the new UUID. Alternatively, deleting the
search line and having the linux line as
linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda2
might work.
Thanks for your answer but the problem is the loader stops before
loading GRUB itself so I cannot do anything within GRUB. The GRUB
text was displayed by boot sector of partition. This means that GRUB
loader in boot sector of partition does not find the next stage of
GRUB. I do not know why. I do not know how to reinstall GRUB to my
Debian partition. The UUID of swap partition lost in clone but I think
there is a myriad of tutorial how to change UUID of partition.
Here is the blkid output:
/dev/sda1: UUID=01CBD00909925860 TYPE=ntfs
/dev/sda2: LABEL=rootfs UUID=6fcb6e1c-92a2-4ac5-beac-e997ab08491f
SEC_TYPE=ext2 TYPE=ext3
/dev/sda3: TYPE=swap
Here is the grub.cfg part:
menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-3-amd64' --class debian
--class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd1,msdos2)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root
6fcb6e1c-92a2-4ac5-beac-e997ab08491f
echo'Loading Linux 3.2.0-3-amd64 ...'
linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-3-amd64
root=UUID=6fcb6e1c-92a2-4ac5-beac-e997ab08491f ro quiet acpi=force
echo'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-3-amd64
}
And here is the fstab:
# / was on /dev/sda2 during installation
UUID=6fcb6e1c-92a2-4ac5-beac-e997ab08491f / ext3
errors=remount-ro 0 1
# swap was on /dev/sda3 during installation
UUID=d76a59a5-e778-41c6-8d2d-e10a52bd739f noneswapsw
0 0
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a
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Re: GRUB problem after clone
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Fri 28 Sep 2012 at 22:24:16 +0200, Artifex Maximus wrote: I would like to move from old 320GB HDD to a new 1TB HDD. I have the following partition structure: sda1 - XP sda2 - Debian 7 x86_64 (boot partition) sda3 - swap The GRUB is on the sda2 partition not in the MBR. That's why sda2 is the boot partition. If I set sda1 as boot partition XP runs. I just do not want to disturb original MBR loader code. I clone my system to a new bigger HDD using Clonezilla 2 for Linux. At start GRUB loader only writes GRUB on the screen and nothing else happen. If I set sda1 as boot XP load and works fine. I've tried to reinstall grub under RIPLinux x86_64 with mount sda2 and chroot but no success. update-grub displays no error but no success. The Linux filesystem including /boot folder and grub is there. Most likely there is some missing piece which is not part of filesystem therefore clonezilla misses that part. My question is what is the recommended way of reinstall GRUB after cloning in such situation? Why update-grub does not works? Might try to copy with dd and resize later? At the GRUB prompt press the 'e' key. Please post what you see. There will probably be a long UUID. To save some typing put 123 for it. Thanks. Might I was not clean. This is not grub prompt just a GRUB line on the screen. Keys even ctrl-alt-del don't work. I assume this is the output of loader in the boot sector of sda2. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPkuXvGexBQvvBetNfPLHOPvoXgGiqU=SciNmdZ0=jetdzp...@mail.gmail.com
Re: No shutdown after processor change
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 5:44 AM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: On 9/26/2012 11:14 AM, Artifex Maximus wrote: On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Selim T. Erdogan se...@alumni.cs.utexas.edu wrote: Artifex Maximus, 18.09.2012: Did you make any software updates to the system? I have a pretty old computer that is using wheezy and as I updated debian within the past weeks it went back and forth between turning off properly and stalling with system halted on the screen. I don't remember which one it's been doing most recently. No I did not upgrade my system that time. Since then I do several times but with the same result. The problem probably somewhere else because if I am in the BIOS and press power button the system (CPU) stops/freeze but the screen remains on and have to switch off with power button on PSU. Later the system does not always detect the HDDs at system start which is scaring. So I bought a new ASUS G41 board and a new PSU. Hope that works. Actually I do not have time for build the new system so there will be no new info till Friday. Might I first will try to change only the CPU back to E5200 and see the errors gone or still there. If gone the problem is clearly CPU related. Sorry for being late for the game. In nearly all cases this behavior is a result of a new processor and an old BIOS whose code was not written for the new processor. Simply flashing the system with the latest BIOS usually fixes such issues. I don't see that mentioned above. Before installing the new Asus board, I suggest putting the E5200 back in. Confirm everything works as it did before relating to power switch, device detection, etc. If it works, flash with the latest BIOS. Reboot and verify new BIOS is working. If so, power down and install the E8400. The problems should be gone. Thanks for your answer. I already installed my new board and everything is fine. I tried E5200 and old motherboard lives again. So my old board clearly not handle E8400. So bad. My new motherboard handle E8400 and knows VT which is great. I might be able to give you definitive information but you didn't state your current mobo make/model. This problem is likely documented in the errata, along with the solution, which is likely upgrade to BIOS version x.xx.xxx or later. It's a Fujitsu-Siemens G31T-M2 manufactured by ECS but no such board on ECS site. I flashed the last BIOS some years ago as BIOS is from 2008 and no success. Fujitsu support wrote an email that Linux and E8400 is not supported by them. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capkuxveas+ouim5bttftke1kev7rkvzu2qk1ouz49nln_v0...@mail.gmail.com
GRUB problem after clone
Hello! I would like to move from old 320GB HDD to a new 1TB HDD. I have the following partition structure: sda1 - XP sda2 - Debian 7 x86_64 (boot partition) sda3 - swap The GRUB is on the sda2 partition not in the MBR. That's why sda2 is the boot partition. If I set sda1 as boot partition XP runs. I just do not want to disturb original MBR loader code. I clone my system to a new bigger HDD using Clonezilla 2 for Linux. At start GRUB loader only writes GRUB on the screen and nothing else happen. If I set sda1 as boot XP load and works fine. I've tried to reinstall grub under RIPLinux x86_64 with mount sda2 and chroot but no success. update-grub displays no error but no success. The Linux filesystem including /boot folder and grub is there. Most likely there is some missing piece which is not part of filesystem therefore clonezilla misses that part. My question is what is the recommended way of reinstall GRUB after cloning in such situation? Why update-grub does not works? Might try to copy with dd and resize later? Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capkuxvff-wbhdmc2odfkh6_9rrftdtovfvma4comuy2wkzb...@mail.gmail.com
Re: No shutdown after processor change
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Selim T. Erdogan se...@alumni.cs.utexas.edu wrote: Artifex Maximus, 18.09.2012: On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:29 PM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Artifex Maximus artife...@gmail.com writes: I've changed my processor from E5200 to E8400. Since then my computer does not shutdown. It's possible that you damaged your board in the process. Thanks for your answer. I did it several times and otherwise works perfectly so I do not think so. Sometimes the display and motherboard LEDs become blank but PSU cooler runs. It's a feature of some PSUs to leave the fan running until they have cooled down some after turning off the computer. Never ever did before. I think this is not the case here. Sometimes Debian stops at System halted line and no blank screen and machine keeps running. At that point, your system is shut down and the only thing it doesn't do is turning itself off. That can be a software issue --- I never figured out what kernel modules are needed for that. I think that only CPU change cannot made such problem. I tried BIOS default setup loading but no change. Any idea what to change? I have no idea. You could start by looking at what's in syslog and dmesg and by checking the loaded modules. You could boot from a live/installer DVD/CD and see if the computer turns off when you shut it down to get an indication if there is a software or a hardware problem. I don't know if the DVDs/CDs actually turn the computer off, though, something to find out first. Thank you. I'll take a look on it. Did you make any software updates to the system? I have a pretty old computer that is using wheezy and as I updated debian within the past weeks it went back and forth between turning off properly and stalling with system halted on the screen. I don't remember which one it's been doing most recently. No I did not upgrade my system that time. Since then I do several times but with the same result. The problem probably somewhere else because if I am in the BIOS and press power button the system (CPU) stops/freeze but the screen remains on and have to switch off with power button on PSU. Later the system does not always detect the HDDs at system start which is scaring. So I bought a new ASUS G41 board and a new PSU. Hope that works. Actually I do not have time for build the new system so there will be no new info till Friday. Might I first will try to change only the CPU back to E5200 and see the errors gone or still there. If gone the problem is clearly CPU related. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPkuXvE2b3j80b=2dszaf0mgvndolaz6wofi8pnxz+lbey0...@mail.gmail.com
Re: No shutdown after processor change
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:48:53 +0200, Artifex Maximus wrote: I've changed my processor from E5200 to E8400. Since then my computer does not shutdown. Sometimes the display and motherboard LEDs become blank but PSU cooler runs. Sometimes Debian stops at System halted line and no blank screen and machine keeps running. I think that only CPU change cannot made such problem. I tried BIOS default setup loading but no change. Any idea what to change? I have no idea. I would look for a BIOS update, just in case. Whether in doubt, ask your motherboard's manufacturer about this step. Thanks. Motherboard has the latest BIOS from 2008 and wrote for support to manufacturer (Fujitsu-Siemens). The answer is what I expect: we are sorry, but probably problem is because of the OS and changed CPU. None of them are supported. Supported OS is: Windows Vista and supported CPUs are: 38006431 CPU INTEL PDC E2140 / 775 38006431 CPU INTEL PDC E2140 / 775 38009419 CPU INTEL PDC E2160 775 45W Nice. So no help from manufacturer as I am using not supported CPU and systems. Typical problem of brand name and its support. I still have no idea why system cannot shutdown with different CPU. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capkuxvhr_+zqvn7ahpjcmqntol36rflyzbxygksu0kiqpku...@mail.gmail.com
Re: No shutdown after processor change
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 8:29 PM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Artifex Maximus artife...@gmail.com writes: I've changed my processor from E5200 to E8400. Since then my computer does not shutdown. It's possible that you damaged your board in the process. Thanks for your answer. I did it several times and otherwise works perfectly so I do not think so. Sometimes the display and motherboard LEDs become blank but PSU cooler runs. It's a feature of some PSUs to leave the fan running until they have cooled down some after turning off the computer. Never ever did before. I think this is not the case here. Sometimes Debian stops at System halted line and no blank screen and machine keeps running. At that point, your system is shut down and the only thing it doesn't do is turning itself off. That can be a software issue --- I never figured out what kernel modules are needed for that. I think that only CPU change cannot made such problem. I tried BIOS default setup loading but no change. Any idea what to change? I have no idea. You could start by looking at what's in syslog and dmesg and by checking the loaded modules. You could boot from a live/installer DVD/CD and see if the computer turns off when you shut it down to get an indication if there is a software or a hardware problem. I don't know if the DVDs/CDs actually turn the computer off, though, something to find out first. Thank you. I'll take a look on it. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capkuxvgnmuxvweexad33ycc0hmkbwxchsmqzuwtmdlgo2fe...@mail.gmail.com
No shutdown after processor change
Hello! I've changed my processor from E5200 to E8400. Since then my computer does not shutdown. Sometimes the display and motherboard LEDs become blank but PSU cooler runs. Sometimes Debian stops at System halted line and no blank screen and machine keeps running. I think that only CPU change cannot made such problem. I tried BIOS default setup loading but no change. Any idea what to change? I have no idea. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPkuXvFQRuBgMmv7rpg2j+Kbz29jMN77R_+PmmTxnqAjmJ=a...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Virtualbox 64 bit guest option is missing
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 18:26:19 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: Artifex Maximus artife...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 2:37 AM, Sven Hartge s...@svenhartge.de wrote: Artifex Maximus artife...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:21:50 +0200, Artifex Maximus wrote: The question is I need to upgrade my CPU to any VT capable CPU or is there any solution staying at the current CPU? Well, you can stil install a 32-bits guest OS but for 64-bits you need a VT-x enabled micro, yes. OK, now a lovely little E8400 power my machine which is VT-x and VT-d capable. Did you enable the support for those features inside the BIOS setup? If not, they may be masked and unusable for Linux and VirtualBox. Even it is a quite old motherboard Intel Virtualization Technology BIOS options is enabled. I cannot change that option though. My motherboard just for info is a Fujitsu-Siemens G31T-M2 which is some ECS OEM motherboard with G31 chipset. Hmm. Could you post the output of grep flags /proc/cpuinfo so that we can see which capabilities the kernel thinks are available on you CPU, That will be of little help because CPU will expose the VT-x capabilities despite the BIOS have them turned off. Someone recommend the XenClient CD. I've tried that and says that VTx is disabled even it is enabled in BIOS. :-( @Artifex, contact your motherboard manufacturer and ask specifically for this. I see nothing at the manual or specs regarding VT-x for your board¹. ¹http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Product/Product_Detail.aspx?DetailID=812CategoryID=1MenuID=16LanID=0 Thanks. Mine is Fujitsu-Siemens (manufactured by ECS) G31T-M2 which is slightly different from any other which I found on ECS site. So no BIOS there. I already have the latest (dated 2008) FuSi BIOS for my board. I'll contact with FuSi hope they will help me. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPkuXvHpUkPiJSkK=zu6yx-er4skvzawb626cnm5x2pn5qd...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Virtualbox 64 bit guest option is missing
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 2:37 AM, Sven Hartge s...@svenhartge.de wrote: Artifex Maximus artife...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:21:50 +0200, Artifex Maximus wrote: The question is I need to upgrade my CPU to any VT capable CPU or is there any solution staying at the current CPU? Well, you can stil install a 32-bits guest OS but for 64-bits you need a VT-x enabled micro, yes. OK, now a lovely little E8400 power my machine which is VT-x and VT-d capable. Did you enable the support for those features inside the BIOS setup? If not, they may be masked and unusable for Linux and VirtualBox. Even it is a quite old motherboard Intel Virtualization Technology BIOS options is enabled. I cannot change that option though. My motherboard just for info is a Fujitsu-Siemens G31T-M2 which is some ECS OEM motherboard with G31 chipset. If your BIOS does not support those options, you may need to upgrade to a newer version. If no newer version is available from the vendor, you may need a new mainboard, I'm afraid. I am using latest BIOS. Looks like I have VT option in BIOS which is enabled but still no VT in Virtualbox under Debian and Windows XP 32 bit (I read that Virtualbox on VT capable CPU is able to emulate 64 bit guests on 32 bit host). Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPkuXvG=6ThMÃy3ZPoidfiq52iiRuµ=tsp6uzs6nusc...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Virtualbox 64 bit guest option is missing
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your long and detailed answer. I cut it down a bit, sorry. On Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:21:50 +0200, Artifex Maximus wrote: The question is I need to upgrade my CPU to any VT capable CPU or is there any solution staying at the current CPU? Well, you can stil install a 32-bits guest OS but for 64-bits you need a VT-x enabled micro, yes. OK, now a lovely little E8400 power my machine which is VT-x and VT-d capable. http://ark.intel.com/products/33910/Intel-Core2-Duo-Processor-E8400-%286M-Cache-3_00-GHz-1333-MHz-FSB%29 If I change the CPU am I need to reinstall Virtualbox? I don't think so. Well. Still no 64 bit option and System/Acceleration tab is disabled in my Virtualbox. Any idea why? Motherboard? BIOS? My system is: Linux artifex 3.2.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Jul 23 02:45:17 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux dmesg: [0.051573] CPU0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz stepping 0a ... [0.140066] Brought up 2 CPUs [0.140068] Total of 2 processors activated (11970.46 BogoMIPS). vboxdrv related lines (what and why legacy support warning?): [ 55.378467] vboxdrv: Found 2 processor cores. [ 55.378878] vboxdrv: fAsync=0 offMin=0x22e offMax=0xc57 [ 55.378926] vboxdrv: TSC mode is 'synchronous', kernel timer mode is 'normal'. [ 55.378928] vboxdrv: Successfully loaded version 4.1.18_Debian (interface 0x0019). [ 55.452749] vboxpci: IOMMU not found (not registered) [ 160.448576] warning: `VirtualBox' uses 32-bit capabilities (legacy support in use) Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capkuxvfy-kxnerw41kpustsksuoqftx3opyw3nezcp-1pwy...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Virtualbox 64 bit guest option is missing
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 1:45 AM, Greg Madden gomadtr...@gci.net wrote: On Wednesday 22 August 2012 10:21:50 am Artifex Maximus wrote: Hello! Virtualbox on my Wheezy x86_64 is not showing 64 bit for guest and guest x86_64 OS installer displays CPU mismatch error. My CPU is a E5200 which does not have VT support. Virtualbox page says On 64-bit hosts (which typically come with hardware virtualization support), 64-bit guest operating systems are always supported regardless of settings, so you can simply install a 64-bit operating system in the guest.. It is not clear for me that 64 bit host is enough or VT is required for 64 bit guests. The question is I need to upgrade my CPU to any VT capable CPU or is there any solution staying at the current CPU? If I change the CPU am I need to reinstall Virtualbox? Bye, a I think you have the answser, afaik, you can not run 64bit guests without vt support. So, will 32 bit guests be enough for your use? Thank you. Looks like I have to buy a new CPU with VT. Unfortunately 32 bit is not enough for me as I would like to test 64 bit systems within my Virtualbox. VT-x/AMD-v cpus are the way to go. It was a substantial increase in performance when I upgraded. I know AMD advertises multiple cores for virtualization. I look for some E8xxx CPU. It has higher FSB and clock speed than mine which is a plus. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capkuxvfvkh28oya63xtuccbvhdny880csi-ysfdn2-beosa...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Virtualbox 64 bit guest option is missing
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 08:21:50PM +0200, Artifex Maximus wrote: Hello! Virtualbox on my Wheezy x86_64 is not showing 64 bit for guest and guest x86_64 OS installer displays CPU mismatch error. My CPU is a E5200 which does not have VT support. Virtualbox page says On 64-bit hosts (which typically come with hardware virtualization support), 64-bit guest operating systems are always supported regardless of settings, so you can simply install a 64-bit operating system in the guest.. It is not clear for me that 64 bit host is enough or VT is required for 64 bit guests. The question is I need to upgrade my CPU to any VT capable CPU or is there any solution staying at the current CPU? If I change the CPU am I need to reinstall Virtualbox? When you specify the guest operating system type, do you have the option for 64-bit OSes? When creating a new Virtual machine, if you select, say, Debian, you'll get a 32-bit virtual processor. What you need to do is select Debian (64-bit), if available, and then your guest can access the 64-bit capabilities. There is no such 64-bit entry. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capkuxvf+1osb9w__l5te1uuhrccy4zfc4fbsdpk3w70ljza...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Virtualbox 64 bit guest option is missing
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Jon Dowland j...@debian.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 08:21:50PM +0200, Artifex Maximus wrote: Hello! Virtualbox on my Wheezy x86_64 Are you running both of • a 64bit kernel (I guess yes, given above) Yes, latest. • the 64bit version of virtualbox (not the 32bit one on top of 64bit kernel) I am using Virtualbox from Debian packages installed with aptitude which I think 64 bit by default on 64 bit OS. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPkuXvGXREvAE2wYj6qaNMQN8ZhWwOapSdB=r=irq4zkofp...@mail.gmail.com
Virtualbox 64 bit guest option is missing
Hello! Virtualbox on my Wheezy x86_64 is not showing 64 bit for guest and guest x86_64 OS installer displays CPU mismatch error. My CPU is a E5200 which does not have VT support. Virtualbox page says On 64-bit hosts (which typically come with hardware virtualization support), 64-bit guest operating systems are always supported regardless of settings, so you can simply install a 64-bit operating system in the guest.. It is not clear for me that 64 bit host is enough or VT is required for 64 bit guests. The question is I need to upgrade my CPU to any VT capable CPU or is there any solution staying at the current CPU? If I change the CPU am I need to reinstall Virtualbox? Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capkuxvfejnby48uogmklq5xbyuvwsxobmpwjyhpxxyemmjk...@mail.gmail.com
dependency tree on installed packages
Hello! My Wheezy was installed on a very early stage any I would like to compare packages against a fresh installation to see what is different or changed. Probably nothing but would like to verify. Therefore I would like to make a dependency tree (graph) on installed packages under Wheezy for both (my older and a fresh) installation. On the two dependency trees I am able to find differences between them because packages by packages compare is not enough I think. I have made some google and found that debtree and apt-cache might do that. But do not. Or not exactly what I would like. debtree needs a package name for graph but I need all my installed packages (no --all or asterisk parameter) not just some and apt-cache makes tree from all packages Debian has even I specify the parameter --installed. I am stuck. Any other idea for what I would like to do? Script or application or just hint. Anything. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPkuXvE2daRv1rmGy3POhCJ4t5_LU=H3pzO+_nOWLQ=36rz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: dependency tree on installed packages
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Keith McKenzie km3...@gmail.com wrote: apt-cache dump | grep Package: apt-cache dump | grep Version: Those will get 2 separate lists of installed software names versions. Maybe that will get what you want in a roundabout way. :-) Thank you. Unfortunately it gives all Debian packages not just installed. # apt-cache dump | grep Package: | wc -l 47121 # apt-cache --installed dump | grep Package: | wc -l 47121 # dpkg --list | wc -l 2481 Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capkuxvfby7egf62o+f3sp2wkrjcoouonugrq1yznmuccm+w...@mail.gmail.com
Re: dependency tree on installed packages
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 12:08:39PM +0200, Artifex Maximus wrote: Hello! My Wheezy was installed on a very early stage any I would like to compare packages against a fresh installation to see what is different or changed. Probably nothing but would like to verify. Therefore I would like to make a dependency tree (graph) on installed packages under Wheezy for both (my older and a fresh) installation. On the two dependency trees I am able to find differences between them because packages by packages compare is not enough I think. I have made some google and found that debtree and apt-cache might do that. But do not. Or not exactly what I would like. debtree needs a package name for graph but I need all my installed packages (no --all or asterisk parameter) not just some and apt-cache makes tree from all packages Debian has even I specify the parameter --installed. I am stuck. It looks like apt-cache --installed depends . should do what you want. If it's doing what you want, but for all packages, then that seems like a bug to me (the --installed parameter says Limit the output of depends and rdepends to packages which are currently installed). Note that --installed only works with 'depends' and 'rdepends'. This depends output looks very close to what I would like but --installed does not works with depends for me even man page says so. # dpkg --list | grep 0ad # apt-cache --installed depends . | grep 0ad 0ad 0ad-data 0ad-dbg # apt-cache --installed depends . | egrep -v '^ ' | wc -l 47121 Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capkuxvewqkep50j4qjhom71my-7x5mhk6wfjjyzmsljbqwp...@mail.gmail.com
Re: dependency tree on installed packages
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Teemu Likonen tliko...@iki.fi wrote: Artifex Maximus [2012-06-20 12:08:39 +0200] wrote: debtree needs a package name for graph but I need all my installed packages (no --all or asterisk parameter) not just some and apt-cache makes tree from all packages Debian has even I specify the parameter --installed. I am stuck. I may have misunderstood what you are asking but maybe this: aptitude -F%p search '~i' Thanks but not really what I want. Its output is close to dpkg --list and nothing about dependency which I would like. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capkuxvehyro-pkqnxmmjuopnqo_d7chn83ymg5fyxcrjyxj...@mail.gmail.com
Re: dependency tree on installed packages
Hello, On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Claudius Hubig debian_1...@chubig.net wrote: Hello Artifex, Artifex Maximus artife...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Keith McKenzie km3...@gmail.com wrote: Those will get 2 separate lists of installed software names versions. # dpkg --list | wc -l 2481 Why don’t you use the output of dpkg -l? Also check man 1 dpkg-query. Thank you. dpkg -l writes out all installed packages but not the relations between them. I did similar comparison between systems but seeing the differences in a tree makes this process easier because I can cut leafs if I know there is related or not to my later installation. If I compare packages line-by-line without any relation I do not know that any extra or missing packages is related to other packages or might standalone packages. I think the continuous upgrade process from the early stage of Wheezy left some unneeded packages. This is normal as I started early just want to clean out my system. Maybe I am wrong on base idea but would like to check and look for some utility to make it easier. I there is no such utility I will compare line-by-line as last resort. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPkuXvEF34-EcG-jPck3J-hNrNrmDj2MW+N2Ro=veq4hrqy...@mail.gmail.com
Missing Kbuild folder
Hello! In my /lib/modules/3.1.0-1-amd64/source folder I have a Kbuild symbolic link which links to a non existent ../../lib/linux-kbuild-3.1/Kbuild file. Is it intentional or might I missing some packages? Might I need dpkg-reconfigure for some packages? My system is Debian Wheezy with all upgrades up to date. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPkuXvFTy4qgWkzsyKMX6jhRFP=xzwxl7kogtmeehqzpnl9...@mail.gmail.com
linux-headers with GCC 4.6 when
Hello! I have installed virtualbox-ose and virtualbox-ose-dkms. DKMS needs linux-headers which depends on gcc-4.5 even I have an already installed gcc and gcc-4.6. Is it intentional or not? Is gcc 4.6 cannot compile kernel? I have enough disk space yet but gcc twice is unnecessary and I just wondering. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/capkuxvgnog-qa-qfx34w78hnfbl+w3+vve2akjznvn-cck-...@mail.gmail.com
Re: linux-headers with GCC 4.6 when
Hello! On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 2:20 PM, David Sastre d.sastre.med...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 01:39:17PM +0100, Artifex Maximus wrote: I have installed virtualbox-ose and virtualbox-ose-dkms. DKMS needs linux-headers which depends on gcc-4.5 even I have an already installed gcc and gcc-4.6. Is it intentional or not? Is gcc 4.6 cannot compile kernel? I have enough disk space yet but gcc twice is unnecessary and I just wondering. The modules built by dkms must match the gcc version used to compile the kernel. Install gcc-4.5 and add it to the alternatives system to select which to use, or export CC for manual compilations. I see. Thanks for the answer. This means as long as kernel compiled with gcc 4.5 dkms depends on gcc 4.5. From my POV, it's not unnecessary to have different versions of some software (gcc, perl java,...). Different people different needs. :-) Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPkuXvGq7-wgFJWeBvMvA-_RQZsp69mJyf2o0W=upwbf1hr...@mail.gmail.com
Re: GRUB install problem with latest Wheezy weekly DVD
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:32:16 +0200, Artifex Maximus wrote: I try to install Wheezy with latest install DVD snapshot (20111011) and when installer try to install grub it failed with grub-pc package failed to install into /target/. I switch to terminal four and the log says: Package grub-pc is not available, but is referred to by another package. ... Package grub-pc has no installation candidate ... grub-installer: info: Calling apt-install grub-pc failed Any idea how to solve this problem? The system is a x86_64 system with 4 gigs of memory. It seems this is a recurrent issue. Thanks for your help! The previous install DVD (20111003) had the same issue and I think it is corrected in current one. Are you using the expert installer mode? If yes, retry the GRUB install several times, I don't know why but the installer usually gets stuck in this step and after some retries it -sometimes- finally can get installed. I am using standard text mode installer. I have tried several times without success. If that also fails you can skip the step of the bootloader install (always from an expert install), install as usual and then manually boot the new system by means of a LiveCD → boot installed system. Once you're in, you can install GRUB as usual. So that way I did. I boot with recovery option and run shell on Debian partition. Unfortunately the system did not install grub-pc (and gnome as well). So I need to run apt-get and then I can run grub-installer. More or less I follow this steps: http://giantdorks.org/alain/easy-enough-recovery-from-debian-testing-installers-failure-to-install-grub-during-setup/ Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPkuXvHxrCxsnTwue9�icDSfjXs�nq_wbr78kcq4uq+...@mail.gmail.com
GRUB install problem with latest Wheezy weekly DVD
Hello! I try to install Wheezy with latest install DVD snapshot (20111011) and when installer try to install grub it failed with grub-pc package failed to install into /target/. I switch to terminal four and the log says: Package grub-pc is not available, but is referred to by another package. ... Package grub-pc has no installation candidate ... grub-installer: info: Calling apt-install grub-pc failed Any idea how to solve this problem? The system is a x86_64 system with 4 gigs of memory. Thanks, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPkuXvGqnQw6OO=vzwtynuuj-p6rlzqfwnd9rajdvjkcx2j...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Partitions recovering on empty HDD.
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Sthu Deus sthu.d...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, I did not interpret its output like that: # testdisk /list /dev/sdb Testdisk is simply amazing. Try to read this pages: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/Data_Recovery_Examples http://members.iinet.net/~herman546/p21.html Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPkuXvEV_pYf=b9yebusqpcpmlzd5ffy75kisqzmzdt-as8...@mail.gmail.com
clang compile problem with samefile
Hello! I have a problem compiling samefile with clang on Wheezy. configure gives the following error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details. config.log says: configure:1683: checking for C compiler default output file name configure:1686: clang -v -m64 -pipe -O2 -s conftest.c 5 clang version 2.9 (tags/RELEASE_29/final) Target: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Thread model: posix /usr/bin/clang -cc1 -triple x86_64-pc-linux-gnu -emit-obj -disable-free -disable-llvm-verifier -main-file-name confte st.c -mrelocation-model static -mdisable-fp-elim -masm-verbose -mconstructor-aliases -munwind-tables -target-cpu x86-64 -target-linker-version 2.21.53.20110823 -momit-leaf-frame-pointer -v -resource-dir /usr/bin/../lib/clang/2.9 -O2 -ferror -limit 19 -fmessage-length 0 -fgnu-runtime -fdiagnostics-show-option -o /tmp/cc-bHqtLm.o -x c conftest.c clang -cc1 version 2.9 based upon llvm 2.9 hosted on x86_64-pc-linux-gnu ignoring duplicate directory /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu #include ... search starts here: #include ... search starts here: /usr/local/include /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu /usr/bin/../lib/clang/2.9/include /usr/include End of search list. /usr/bin/ld -s --hash-style=both --no-copy-dt-needed-entries --build-id --eh-frame-hdr -m elf_x86_64 -dynamic-linker /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 -o a.out crt1.o crti.o crtbegin.o -L -L/../../../../lib64 -L/lib/../lib64 -L/usr/lib/../lib6 4 -L/../../.. /tmp/cc-bHqtLm.o -lgcc --as-needed -lgcc_s --no-as-needed -lc -lgcc --as-needed -lgcc_s --no-as-needed crt end.o crtn.o /usr/bin/ld: cannot find crt1.o: No such file or directory /usr/bin/ld: cannot find crti.o: No such file or directory /usr/bin/ld: cannot find crtbegin.o: No such file or directory /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_s clang: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation) My system is: Linux machine 3.0.0-1-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Sat Aug 27 17:34:31 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux Any idea why clang does not find those files? Is it Debian Wheezy or Clang related problem? Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPkuXvEqvRqhug7AQ6kAQJF78itNura-vPfNKbmTR=ud4_o...@mail.gmail.com
Re: help with rtorrent
Hello! On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote: When I go to Info on this torrent, rtorrent says Connection type: leech. What do I need to do to be a good bittorrent citizen? As long as you do not have each chunks of a torrent rtorrent says you are leech. If you download torrent hundred percent you will turn to seed. This means if you do not download each file from a torrent (just select some of them) you will never be a seeder. So this is only a technical term. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=v7pmgpd7rnrtfjijnmax-bfmyep+s6ko6m...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Flash is open?
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 14 May 2010 05:00:51 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/14/2010 04:32 AM, Camaleón wrote: You seems to be conflating 3 different entities: 1. Adobe Flash 2. Adobe Flash Player 3. SWF file format AFAIK: #1 As per Wikipedia → Licence: Proprietary EULA (it can be wrong, though) #2 Adobe Flash Player is closed source, non freely distributable, etc... #3 Falls into #1 (is just a container) No. It's a file format, and that file format has (except for Sorensen Spark) been published. Published does not means FLOSS or GPL. I would like to know what is the licence of Flash :-) http://www.adobe.com/devnet/swf/ The SWF file format is available as an open specification ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_specifications An open specification is not controlled by a single company or individual or by a group with discriminatory membership criteria. Copies of Open Specifications are available free of charge or for a moderate fee and can be implemented under reasonable and non discriminatory licensing (RAND) terms by all interested parties. And for some other informations: http://www.openscreenproject.org/about/faq.html Where are the new licenses for the SWF and FLV/F4V specifications? Adobe has removed the entire license agreement from the SWF and FLV/F4V specifications. The only remaining restrictions are on copying and distributing the specifications themselves and on the use of Adobe trademarks, including the Flash trademark. The copyright and trademark restrictions are on the copyright page of the specification. Developers are now free to implement what is documented in the specifications without restrictions from Adobe. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinexhmkin_mhg2efrrlx7nso_0uyyffbhg2j...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Flash is open?
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 14 May 2010 07:32:10 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 05/14/2010 07:04 AM, Camaleón wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_specifications An open specification is not controlled by a single company or individual or by a group with discriminatory membership criteria. Copies of Open Specifications are available free of charge or for a moderate fee and can be implemented under reasonable and non discriminatory licensing (RAND) terms by all interested parties. So that means...? a/ That I can modify the code of Flash without any fear of Adobe being suing me :-) Pay attention, for God's sake! Their *code* is proprietary, their file specs are not. Sorry, but IANAL. Proprietary code is what we (linux community) avoid the most, so, what I am missing here? Or put in another words, what code are you referring to? The question is still unanswered. Can we (we=people) make our own Flash implementation by using Adobe Flash specs? Yes. Developers are now free to implement what is documented in the specifications without restrictions from Adobe. I think you might separate the description of file format (free) and the code itself (proprietary). So you can write your flash player using the documentation but you cannot get the code of Adobe Flash Player. Sorry, but I do cannot fully trust Adobe nor any company behind a product with such terse license model... No one is holding your feet to the fire while simultaneously waterboarding you, saying Trust Adobe!! Oh, no, but... If W3C does not trust Flash technology to be included as one of their recommended standards, why should I? That is the point. Linux, FreeBSD, OSX and other OSs included in that W3C standards? I think the answer is no... Do you have trust in them? Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktil7z7jgyva3eaz5wke1ytufs0ewhtfndwofl...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Flash is open?
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 14 May 2010 15:45:36 +0200, Artifex Maximus wrote: On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Camaleón wrote: Oh, no, but... If W3C does not trust Flash technology to be included as one of their recommended standards, why should I? That is the point. Linux, FreeBSD, OSX and other OSs included in that W3C standards? I think the answer is no... Do you have trust in them? Linux, FreeBSD, OSX and other OSs all of them include their own licencing model, whatever it is (closed or open sourced), so I can use the software knowing beforehand what I can (or can't) do with it. You've talked about W3C recommended standards and not about licenses. Do not get me wrong, I'm only saying that if I were a developer, I would have many doubts in choosing a flash format for any of my works. Developers never forced to use Flash/SWF or any other standards. If you have any doubts in SWF just use other format. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimf25qhzzpz6glvcm-q5rpi9qv0vckwrrde8...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Removing SSH's welcome message (before login)
Hello! 2010/2/17 Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt: If i telnet (or use a browser!) to my sshd, i get this string: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian-5 even before i login. My /etc/motd is empty and i've also tried adding a Banner /etc/ssh/banner line to /etc/ssh/sshd_config (nd creating the according empty file), and HUPing sshd. I still get this line. I'm sure this is something obvious but i can't seem to pin it down; short of messing with the code is there a way to remove this message? Put this line into your sshd_config: VersionAddendum AnyString-19540331 You have to restart sshd or reboot your computer and not kill -HUP your sshd. After that you should see SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.1p1 AnyString-19540331. Bye, a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/9cbf3f071002180448l41a92b3aqb349069c5fbb6...@mail.gmail.com
Re: VirtualBox or VMware?
Hello! On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:51 PM, Ken Heard k...@heard.name wrote: So it would appear from the posts that I should use VirtualBox for now. I could also install DOS on it and see if DOS apps work better on VBox than on dosemu. Have you tried dosbox? Might debian package does not exists but the app itself is open source and there are packages for another linux so I think debian isn't a problem. BR, a:m
Re: kérdés
On 9/27/07, Andrew M.A. Cater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 06:47:09AM +0200, szélpál ági wrote: A gépem amd sempron 2200+, 256 mb ram, 80 gb hdd, 64 mb video ram dvd író, hangkártya. Milyeb debian linuxot javasoltok telapíteni? Hogyan kell és mit kell hozzá letölteni? Eddig xp-m volt. Válaszotokat előre is köszönöm I'm very sorry, I don't speak Hungarian. My uneducated guess is that you are asking whether the specifications of your computer (Sempron 2200, 256M RAM, 80GB disk) will allow you to run Debian :) Never underestimate yourself, You are speaking hungarian perfectly. :-) bye, a
