from:"Aurélien"


Bonjour,

Cela fait plusieurs semaines que je m'arrache les cheveux pour essayer 
de faire marcher ma carte wifi (une intel 2200 intégrée) sur mon pc 
portable (un centrino ACER Aspire 1650).


En fait avec le noyau 2.6.19 tout fonctionne sauf cette carte (malgré 
que j'ai mis le module ipw2200). Il y a un bouton (hotkey) sur la facade 
du PC qui permet (sous windows) de mettre en route la carte. J'ai essayé 
de compiler le module acerhk mais il ne fonctionne pas sur mon ordi.


J'ai donc essayé avec un CD de knoppix (la dernière version, 5.1.0, 
équipée d'un noyau 2.6.19 également). Avec Knoppix les HK ne 
fonctionnent pas non plus mais ma carte est reconnue et ca fonctionne ! 
Seulement je ne vois pas ou est le problème chez moi.


Enfin lorsque le système démarre, ou lorsque je fais /etc/init.d/network 
restart, la carte ethernet (eth0) fonctionne bien, mais j'obtiens ce 
message sur la carte eth1, correspondant a ma carte wifi :


SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
Bind socket to interface: No such device
Failed to bring up eth1

Donc voila toutes les infos que j'ai pu rassembler sur mon problème, en 
espérant que vous pourrez m'aider...


Aurélien


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Re: DMA et reconnaissance matériel


Hijo Yoseta a écrit :
J'avais déjà posté dans le forum debian 
http://forum.debian-fr.org/viewtopic.php?t=5905 mais personne ne 
semble pouvoir me répondre. :-(
(ou peut-être que comme il y a beaucoup de nouveaux topics par jour, le 
mien se soit vite fait oublier; j'ai tenté un 'up' mais rien de nouveau, 
à part réponses : 1' ce qui n'arrangea rien).
[Je vous conseille de le lire préalablement, il y a des logs 
potentiellement intéressants ;-) ].


_I - Un début chaotique :_
Devant mon désir croissant de connaître l'outil informatique (qu'est le 
PC) et dans le soucis d'en avoir un 'pour eux', mes parents m'ont 
achetés un PC bon marché de grande surface.
Joie ! Un PC rien qu'à moi, que j'ai tout de suite convertit à linux : 
gravure puis installation de Mandriva (distribution idéale pour le 
néophyte que j'étais) et là : Kernel Panic. :-(

Forum après forum, toujours aucune réponse.
Je suis passé par Ubuntu puis finalement à Debian qui ô miracle a 
fonctionné : net install, 2h30 de download (512k oblige) et hop, un boot 
qui se finit fructueusement  par un beau bureau KDE. :-)



_II - Quand rien ne marche : Système D !_
Mon PC est en fait un PC monté et c'est pourquoi je n'ai eu comme notice 
que celle de la carte mère, une MSI K9VGM-V (voir 1 
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=738 
ou 2 
http://www.msi-computer.fr/index.php?page=13id_type_produit=132id_prod=517). 

Donc lorsque qu'il a fallu régler le 'server X' je n'ai pas pu échapper 
au mode 'vesa' (car ne connaissant pas exactement la composition 
matérielle de ce PC).
Pour le son lspci -n et avec l'aide de ce très bon site 
http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ j'ai pu compiler le bon module d'ALSA.

Quelques ralentissements mais tout fonctionne. 8-)

_III - Mes objectifs_
Rien de très urgent donc mais le log de xine-check mentionne DMA is 
disabled et j'aimerai savoir comment l'activer.
(si j'ai bien compris, il agit dans le transfert de données et 
l'accélère - d'où peut -être la cause de mes ralentissements)
Par la même occasion, si on pouvait m'aider à bien configurer mon server 
X, ça serait pas de refus.


Puisque tu es sur Debian, vas voir sur 
http://formation-linux.via.ecp.fr, tout est bien expliqué, et tu 
trouveras de nombreuses informations sur la configuration du serveur X


Ciao ;)

(je suis sûr qu'il y a mieux que vesa et xine lui, pourrait profiter 
d'une accélération matérielle c'est en tout cas ce que j'en ai compris )


Désolé pour tout le 'blabla' :-P





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Re: Driver ipw2200 sur ACER aspire 1650


François Boisson a écrit :

Le Wed, 03 Jan 2007 18:39:25 +0100
Aurélien Sanrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:


Bonjour,

Cela fait plusieurs semaines que je m'arrache les cheveux pour essayer 
de faire marcher ma carte wifi (une intel 2200 intégrée) sur mon pc 
portable (un centrino ACER Aspire 1650).



Est ce toi sur le forum avec des soucis ipx2200?


Nan pas moi ;)



En fait avec le noyau 2.6.19 tout fonctionne sauf cette carte (malgré 
que j'ai mis le module ipw2200). Il y a un bouton (hotkey) sur la facade 
du PC qui permet (sous windows) de mettre en route la carte. J'ai essayé 
de compiler le module acerhk mais il ne fonctionne pas sur mon ordi.


J'ai donc essayé avec un CD de knoppix (la dernière version, 5.1.0, 
équipée d'un noyau 2.6.19 également). Avec Knoppix les HK ne 
fonctionnent pas non plus mais ma carte est reconnue et ca fonctionne ! 
Seulement je ne vois pas ou est le problème chez moi.




Hum, je soupconne un histoire d'acpi, regardes quels sont les modules
acpi chargés et essaye de charger les mêmes. Sinon, essaye de voir ce
que donne les logs lors du boot de Knoppix, cela te donnera des
indications sur l'initialisation du matériel.


Alors pour les modules, je me suis apperçu qu'en effet certains modules 
sont chargés sur knoppix :


ieee80211  37320  1 ipw2200
ieee80211_crypt10368  1 ieee80211
firmware_class 14208  1 ipw2200

alors que sur ma debian je n'ai que ipw2200. Il me semble pourtant que 
j'ai bien ajouté les modules correspondants lors de la config du noyau..


et enfin pour le log voici le bout de log obtenu sur knoppix :

ieee80211_crypt: registered algorithm 'NULL'
ieee80211: 802.11 data/management/control stack, git-1.1.13
ieee80211: Copyright (C) 2004-2005 Intel Corporation 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.1.4kmpr
ipw2200: Copyright(c) 2003-2006 Intel Corporation
ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection
ipw2200: Radio Frequency Kill Switch is On:
Kill switch must be turned off for wireless networking to work.
ipw2200: Detected geography ZZM (11 802.11bg channels, 0 802.11a channels)

et le log obtenu sur debian :

ACPI: PCI Interrupt :06:03.0[A] - GSI 17 (level, low) - IRQ 17
ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection
ipw2200: ipw2200-bss.fw request_firmware failed: Reason -2
ipw2200: Unable to load firmware: -2
ipw2200: failed to register network device
ACPI: PCI interrupt for device :06:03.0 disabled
ipw2200: probe of :06:03.0 failed with error -5


En effet il y a bien un problème de chargement des modules mais je ne 
suis pas suffisamment expérimenté pour savoir d'ou ca vient.


Mais on avance, c'est le principal !!!





François Boisson




Merci de votre aide


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Re: Driver ipw2200 sur ACER aspire 1650


Aurélien Sanrey a écrit :

François Boisson a écrit :

Le Wed, 03 Jan 2007 18:39:25 +0100
Aurélien Sanrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:


Bonjour,

Cela fait plusieurs semaines que je m'arrache les cheveux pour 
essayer de faire marcher ma carte wifi (une intel 2200 intégrée) sur 
mon pc portable (un centrino ACER Aspire 1650).



Est ce toi sur le forum avec des soucis ipx2200?


Nan pas moi ;)



En fait avec le noyau 2.6.19 tout fonctionne sauf cette carte (malgré 
que j'ai mis le module ipw2200). Il y a un bouton (hotkey) sur la 
facade du PC qui permet (sous windows) de mettre en route la carte. 
J'ai essayé de compiler le module acerhk mais il ne fonctionne pas 
sur mon ordi.


J'ai donc essayé avec un CD de knoppix (la dernière version, 5.1.0, 
équipée d'un noyau 2.6.19 également). Avec Knoppix les HK ne 
fonctionnent pas non plus mais ma carte est reconnue et ca fonctionne 
! Seulement je ne vois pas ou est le problème chez moi.




Hum, je soupconne un histoire d'acpi, regardes quels sont les modules
acpi chargés et essaye de charger les mêmes. Sinon, essaye de voir ce
que donne les logs lors du boot de Knoppix, cela te donnera des
indications sur l'initialisation du matériel.


Alors pour les modules, je me suis apperçu qu'en effet certains modules 
sont chargés sur knoppix :


ieee80211  37320  1 ipw2200
ieee80211_crypt10368  1 ieee80211
firmware_class 14208  1 ipw2200

alors que sur ma debian je n'ai que ipw2200. Il me semble pourtant que 
j'ai bien ajouté les modules correspondants lors de la config du noyau..


et enfin pour le log voici le bout de log obtenu sur knoppix :

ieee80211_crypt: registered algorithm 'NULL'
ieee80211: 802.11 data/management/control stack, git-1.1.13
ieee80211: Copyright (C) 2004-2005 Intel Corporation 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.1.4kmpr
ipw2200: Copyright(c) 2003-2006 Intel Corporation
ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection
ipw2200: Radio Frequency Kill Switch is On:
Kill switch must be turned off for wireless networking to work.
ipw2200: Detected geography ZZM (11 802.11bg channels, 0 802.11a channels)

et le log obtenu sur debian :

ACPI: PCI Interrupt :06:03.0[A] - GSI 17 (level, low) - IRQ 17
ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection
ipw2200: ipw2200-bss.fw request_firmware failed: Reason -2
ipw2200: Unable to load firmware: -2
ipw2200: failed to register network device
ACPI: PCI interrupt for device :06:03.0 disabled
ipw2200: probe of :06:03.0 failed with error -5


En effet il y a bien un problème de chargement des modules mais je ne 
suis pas suffisamment expérimenté pour savoir d'ou ca vient.


Mais on avance, c'est le principal !!!





François Boisson




En effet ca a l'air d'un problème de firmware... je suis en train de 
régler ca.


Merci a tous !!! :D





Merci de votre aide





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Re: Driver ipw2200 sur ACER aspire 1650


Je confirme, c'était bien ca. Merci, ca marche.

Juste un petite question :
est il possible de créer un alias pour que lors du chargement 
automatique du module, il le charge avec l'option led=1 ?


Merci encore

Aurélien


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Re: imprimante samsung ML-1610

2006-11-17 Thread Aurélien Croc

Bonjour, 

Suite aux différents problèmes que vous avez eu avec l'utilisation du pilote 
SpliX, j'ai décidé de vous écrire. Comme il a été écrit à la suite de la 
découverte du problème, la première version de SpliX était incompatible avec 
les versions supérieures ou égales à 1.2 de CUPS. Un patch était à 
disposition pour régler ce problème. Par contre, depuis la version 0.0.2, 
tout devrait fonctionner à merveille.
Je ne peux que vous encourager à utiliser ces pilotes libres par rapport à 
leur pendant officiel.

Pour la question qui concernait « l'utilité d'un filtre » je vous répondrai 
simplement que les documents émis à l'imprimante sont encodés dans un 
langage très particulier, propre à chaque imprimante (ou presque). Dans le 
monde UNIX qui nous entoure, lorsqu'un programme veut imprimer quelque chose, 
il décrit le document au travers d'un fichier PostScript. Pour ceux qui ont 
une imprimante qui comprend directement les fichiers PostScript, il n'y a 
alors aucun problème, il suffit d'envoyer directement le document à 
l'imprimante. Malheureusement, ces imprimantes ne sont pas très répandues et 
très chères. Pour les autres imprimantes, on intercale, juste avant 
l'émission du document à l'imprimante, un petit programme que l'on appelle un 
filtre et qui est là pour convertir le document dans quelque chose de 
compréhensible pour l'imprimante. 
SpliX n'est rien d'autre qu'un filtre (rastertospl2) qui convert les documents 
dans les langages SPL2, SPLc et bientôt SPL ; langages utilisés par la 
plupart des imprimantes laser monochromes et couleur de Samsung (et Xerox ?)

Enfin, en cas de problème avec l'utilisation des pilotes SpliX, je vous invite 
*VIVEMENT* à venir en parler sur les forums (cf. http://splix.ap2c.org ) 
comme ça je pourrai directement (et beaucoup plus rapidement) vous aider 
et/ou corriger des bugs/

Bien cordialement, 

-- 
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Projet AP²C - http://www.ap2c.org
Clef Publique : http://www.ap2c.org/aurelien.gpg


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Re: [HS] Serveur Apache + passphrase certificat ssl

2006-08-28 Thread Aurélien

Regarde cet article il explique comment retirer la passphrase de la clé.

http://frlinux.net/?section=reseauarticle=105
http://frlinux.net/?section=reseauarticle=105

A+
 Glennie Vignarajah a écrit :

 Il y 2 possibilités : soit utiliser une clé sans mot de passe comme
 proposée dans une des réponse. Cette façon de faire n'est pas la
 meilleure
 Soit modifier 'SSLPassPhraseDialog' et la modifier pour lancer un
 programme 'SSLPassPhraseDialog exec:/chemin/vers/exe'
 euh, on est sous windows ?





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Re: tunnel ssh

2006-08-17 Thread Aurélien Morelle


Bonjour,

Je n'ai pas vraiment saisi ce que vous vouliez faire, mais en tout cas 
pas besoin de plusieurs connexions ssh lorsqu'il y a plusieurs ports à 
rediriger, il suffit d'utiliser autant de fois '-L' que nécessaire.

Par exemple :
ssh -p port -L bind_address1:port1:host1:hostport1 -L 
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Thierry B a écrit :

Bonjour,

Je voulais vos poser une petite question concernant les tunnels ssh.

Imaginons que sur un réseau distant A, j'ai plusieurs machines:
192.168.0.x : le routeur
192.168.0.y: machine 1
192.168.0.z: machine 2

avec le port ssh ouvert au nivau du routeur vers machine 1.

Depuis un autre réseau B, je sais que si je veux rediriger par exemple 
mon port 1234 vers le port 80 de mon serveur ssh, il me suffit par 
exemple de faire:


ssh -L 1234:ip_publique_du_reseau_A:80 ip_publique_du_reseau_A

Mais est-ce que l'on peut rediriger un port local vers le port d'une 
machine du réseau A qui n'est pas le serveur ssh.


Cad par exemple dans mon exemple dire, je veux rediriger mon port 1235 
vers le port 80 du routeur (qui a cette 192.168.0.x dans le réseau A)?


Et si oui, comment faire niveau syntaxe?

Si c'est une possible, il me faudrait donc lancer autant de ssh que de 
ports à rediriger non?


Cad que si par exemple j'ai un serveur vnc, sur machine 1 et machine 
2, faudra lancer 2 connexions ssh.


Merci :-)





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Re: ICQ with Linux

2006-07-21 Thread Aurélien Morelle

I have not tried ICQ or Jabber yet but you didn't mention Kopete and it 
manages them as it manages MSN and yahoo or other. Maybe give it a try ?


Rodolfo Medina wrote:
I've been following the various suggestions come from this list 
about the possibilities Linux offers to chat:

my family want to use `messenger' and ICQ, and before resigning myself
to use MS Windows I wanted to check all the possibilities.

My impression is that `gaim' manages to use the MSN protocol quite fine,
whereas for ICQ, nor `licq' neither `centericq' neither `gabber' (through
jabber network) can satisfactorily replace the richness of 
original ICQ for MS Windows. They only allow the mere IM function 
but don't really allow (as far as I saw) 
wide users search or multiple chat.


So I'll have to use MS Windows, although I wouldn't like.
If anybody has a different experience, i.e. finds that licq,
or any other application can perform those functions just or almost
just as the original does - and this means that I didn't manage to use 
them properly - please let me know, I'll be glad to have been wrong.


Thanks, cheers,
Rodolfo


  



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Re: Package question

2006-07-10 Thread Aurélien Morelle


Johannes Wiedersich wrote:

Aurélien Morelle wrote:

Hi,
I've done  apt-file update and then apt-file search msgfmt 
returns nothing.

It makes me think it comes not from a package... strange.



It does not work for me on a completely unstable (upgraded and

 dist-upgraded daily) i386/i686 system.

More, I have gettext (and then /usr/bin/msgfmt) installed.


you could alternatively try
dpkg -S msgfmt

What output does this yield?

It yields this output :

gettext: /usr/lib/gettext/msgfmt.net.exe
gettext: /usr/bin/msgfmt
gettext: /usr/share/man/man1/msgfmt.1.gz

but it searches in installed packages whereas apt-file searches in 
repository.


'apt-file list gettext' shows also nothing.



Johannes

man dpkg:
  dpkg -S | --search filename-search-pattern ...
  Search for a filename from installed packages.





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Re: Package question

2006-07-10 Thread Aurélien Morelle


Johannes Wiedersich wrote:

Aurélien Morelle wrote:

Johannes Wiedersich wrote:

Aurélien Morelle wrote:
you could alternatively try
dpkg -S msgfmt

What output does this yield?

It yields this output :

gettext: /usr/lib/gettext/msgfmt.net.exe
gettext: /usr/bin/msgfmt
gettext: /usr/share/man/man1/msgfmt.1.gz

but it searches in installed packages whereas apt-file searches in 
repository.


Yes. This was just to make sure it's not related to gettext having 
problems in installation. I get the same output.



'apt-file list gettext' shows also nothing.


So it appears, there is something wrong with apt-file. Sorry, I don't 
use it myself.


I guess we have solved your primary question, of to what package your 
file belongs to.
What is funny is that it was not me who was asking for that. I arrived 
in this thread by trying to answer the concerned person and I felt on 
this issue...


In any case, thanks

Aurelien


Johannes





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Re: [HS][GREP] motif1 OU motif2


Bayrouni wrote:

Bonjour à tous?

J'essaye de trouver toutes les lignes finissant par des extensions, 
disons .ext1 et .ext2


J'ai regardé un peu les expressions régulières avec grep mais je n'ai 
pas trouvé un exemple qui s'appliquerait à mon cas.


Comment dire à grep de trouver uniquement les lignes finissant par 
.ext1 et .ext2?

J'ai essayé des choses comme ['\.ext1''\.ext2']$,
mais le resultat est loin d'être satisfaisant :(


Merci d'avance pour toute aide


Bonjour,

ta sortie | grep \.ext[12]$

Voilà


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Re: [HS][GREP] motif1 OU motif2


Je m'étais focalisé sur ton exemple...

Plus générique :
ta sortie | grep \.\(ext1\|ext2\|ext3\)$

Bayrouni wrote:

Bonjour à tous?

J'essaye de trouver toutes les lignes finissant par des extensions, 
disons .ext1 et .ext2


J'ai regardé un peu les expressions régulières avec grep mais je n'ai 
pas trouvé un exemple qui s'appliquerait à mon cas.


Comment dire à grep de trouver uniquement les lignes finissant par 
.ext1 et .ext2?

J'ai essayé des choses comme ['\.ext1''\.ext2']$,
mais le resultat est loin d'être satisfaisant :(


Merci d'avance pour toute aide




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Re: Package question


Hi,
I've done  apt-file update and then apt-file search msgfmt returns 
nothing.

It makes me think it comes not from a package... strange.

Danny wrote:

Hi list,

Could someone please tell me which package provides msgfmt?

Thank you all in advance

Danny


  



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Re: Package question





I have proceeded with apt-file which did not found msgfmt
After seeing your message, I have tried apt-file list gettext and it
shows nothing
Is there a special configuration to allow apt-file to show or search
files in all packages ?
I have done apt-file update before
Strange again...

LeVA wrote:

  2006. jlius 9. 15:50,
Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Debian-User debian-user@lists.debian.org,:
  
  
Hi list,

Could someone please tell me which package provides "msgfmt"?

Thank you all in advance

  
  It's gettext. Use apt-file...

Daniel

Re: Package question





Stephen Cormier wrote:

  On Sunday 09 July 2006 12:55, Aurlien Morelle wrote:
  
  
Hi,
I've done  "apt-file update" and then "apt-file search msgfmt" returns
nothing.
It makes me think it comes not from a package... strange.


  
  
Works here running a mixed testing/unstable AMD64 system.
  

It does not work for me on a completely unstable (upgraded and
dist-upgraded daily) i386/i686 system.
More, I have gettext (and then /usr/bin/msgfmt) installed.

  
  
  
$ apt-file search msgfmt

  
  gettext: usr/bin/msgfmt
gettext: usr/share/man/man1/msgfmt.1.gz
gettext-doc: usr/share/doc/gettext-doc/msgfmt.1.html
icu-doc: usr/share/doc/icu-doc/html/msgfmt_8h-source.html
icu-doc: usr/share/doc/icu-doc/html/msgfmt_8h.html
karrigell: usr/share/karrigell/k_msgfmt.py
karrigell: usr/share/karrigell/msgfmt.py
kbabel-dev: usr/include/kde/kbabel/msgfmt.h
libgettext-ruby-util: usr/bin/rmsgfmt
libgettext-ruby-util: usr/share/man/man1/rmsgfmt.1.gz
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libicu34-dev: usr/include/unicode/msgfmt.h
libicu34-dev: usr/share/doc/libicu34-dev/examples/msgfmt/Makefile
libicu34-dev: usr/share/doc/libicu34-dev/examples/msgfmt/README.TXT
libicu34-dev: usr/share/doc/libicu34-dev/examples/msgfmt/answers/main_0.cpp
libicu34-dev: usr/share/doc/libicu34-dev/examples/msgfmt/answers/main_1.cpp
libicu34-dev: usr/share/doc/libicu34-dev/examples/msgfmt/answers/main_2.cpp
libicu34-dev: usr/share/doc/libicu34-dev/examples/msgfmt/answers/main_3.cpp
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libicu34-dev: usr/share/doc/libicu34-dev/examples/msgfmt/util.cpp
libicu34-dev: usr/share/doc/libicu34-dev/examples/msgfmt/util.h
linkchecker: usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/linkcheck/msgfmt.py
mailman: usr/lib/mailman/bin/msgfmt.py
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python2.2-examples: usr/share/doc/python2.2/examples/Tools/i18n/msgfmt.py
python2.3-examples: usr/share/doc/python2.3/examples/Tools/i18n/msgfmt.py
python2.4-examples: usr/share/doc/python2.4/examples/Tools/i18n/msgfmt.py
roundup: usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/roundup/msgfmt.py
zope-cps: usr/share/zope/Products/CPSI18n/tests/msgfmt.py
zope-cpsskins: usr/share/zope/Products/CPSSkins/tests/msgfmt.py
zope-plonearticle: usr/share/zope/Products/PloneArticle/i18n/msgfmt.exe
zope-pts: usr/share/zope/Products/PlacelessTranslationService/msgfmt.py


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Re: RE: Sarge NFS Root: INIT: id 1 respawning too fast

2006-04-03 Thread Aurélien Blondel





Hi there,

(Please excuse my probably pityful english - it's not an excuse, but my
native language is French)

I just ran into the same problem :
- Made a fresh debootstrap install
- WGETed kernel 2.6.16.1, compiled it and its module (make menuconfig ;
make bzImage ; make modules ; make modules_install ; moved and
renamed bzImage to /boot and so on)
- Finally succeeded to boot an a full RAID1 system (except from the
swap, RAID0) (it was a lot of non-fun to achieve this since i'm urged)
- (It could be of some interest to mention the tutorial i mainly
(but not only) used to do all of that.)
- At boot, just after cron started, same error : all six inits failed.

I made a somewhat similar install a year ago, and had no problem with
special devices.
I googled the symptom, and found this
FAQ

Examining the content of /dev, i'm really surprised to find very few
special devices... As for TTYs, there where only tty and tty0. No PTYs.
No HDxN. The absents list is long, so i'll stop there.

I just created some missing TTYs (tty1 to tty19) using mknod, but it
obviously is not the way it should be done... It seems to solve the
problem (only seems, 'cause i guess the system should load startx to
display a logon screen - i "apt-get install"ed kde  kde-i18n-fr,
and it doesn't... When manually starting x, i have a "fatal server
error: no screens found" error, which is probably normal since the
needed special device is not there too).
I made a somewhat similar install a year ago, and had no problem at all
with special devices.

So, i'm looking for the normal way such special devices should be
created... I'm not very familiar with Linux or Unix systems, so the
following
questions may sound stupid... But i'm really trying to learn, so
answers will be welcomed, as will be pointers to internet or book
resources !
Should they be installed along with Debian ?
Since some of the devices found on a standard Knoppix seems to relate
to kernel options (rfcommNN, isdnNN) , maybe i missed some critical
option during kernel compilation ?

Thanks a lot in advance for any help !!

Re: Apache2 + mod-proxy : mais ou est donc l'entete X-Forwarded-For ?

2006-03-29 Thread Aurélien Leicknam

Le 29/03/06, Frédéric Badel [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
 Bonsoir à tous, je suis actuellement sous stable et je mets en place un reverse proxy qui doit, pour des besoins applicatifs, me pousser en back-end l'IP du requérant. Bien qu'ayant googlé activement, je n'arrive toujours pas à mettre en
 place une solution qui convienne : pour le moment je me suis limité dans divers tests techniques à utiliser Apache2 (un worker) couplé à mod-proxy - il m'a semblé comprendre que l'on n'avait plus besoin du module spécifique livré
 par libapache-mod-proxy-add-forward existant sous Woody. En résumé, il me semble bien que pour récupére l'IP du requérant via l'entete http X-Forwarded-For il doit y avoir uner conf particulière du
 mod-proxy (ou d'Apache ?). Dans le cas où il n'y a pas de solution connue, quelqu'un aurait-il tenté de faire une manip similaire en jouant avec les entetes http des trames à l'aide de mod-rewrite ?
 Voilà, si vous avez du biscuit, je suis preneur. Merci d'avance ! AurélienHello,Si j'ai bien compris, tu aimerais que le serveur backend puisse récupèrer
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Merci pour ta réponse,

en fait il semblerait que le problème qui se pose soit justement
d'arriver à porter l'IP jusqu'au frontaux web (qui utiliseront
libapache-mod-rpaf pour repositionner l'IP de l'émetteur dans les
champs qui vont bien).

En réalité ce que je cherche c'est à implémenter le fonctionnel de
mod_proxy_add_forward mais je ne trouve pas de paquet de ce nom et je
ne sais pas comment il est implémenté en sarge.

Aurait-il disparu ou bien c'est directement implémenté dans mod_proxy ?


Aurélien

Apache2 + mod-proxy : mais ou est donc l'entete X-Forwarded-For ?

2006-03-28 Thread Aurélien Leicknam

Bonsoir à tous,

je suis actuellement sous stable et je mets en place un reverse proxy
qui doit, pour des besoins applicatifs, me pousser en back-end l'IP du
requérant.

Bien qu'ayant googlé activement, je n'arrive toujours pas à mettre en
place une solution qui convienne : pour le moment je me suis limité
dans divers tests techniques à utiliser Apache2 (un worker) couplé à
mod-proxy - il m'a semblé comprendre que l'on n'avait plus besoin du
module spécifique livré par libapache-mod-proxy-add-forward existant
sous Woody.

En résumé, il me semble bien que pour récupére l'IP du requérant via
l'entete http X-Forwarded-For il doit y avoir uner conf particulière du
mod-proxy (ou d'Apache ?).

Dans le cas où il n'y a pas de solution connue, quelqu'un aurait-il
tenté de faire une manip similaire en jouant avec les entetes http des
trames à l'aide de mod-rewrite ?

Voilà, si vous avez du biscuit, je suis preneur.
Merci d'avance !


Aurélien

Re: booting with kernel 2.6: server hangs

2005-09-15 Thread Aurélien Campéas


Philipp Pfeiffer Ass DM a écrit :

Hello,

I installed current Debian Sarge using net-install onto the following 
server:

IBM 8672-83X (Pentium III, 1 GHz)
512 MB RAM
Adaptec 29160LP scsi adapter
18,2 gb scsi hdd

If I use kernel 2.4 (2.4.27-2-386) the server boots correctly. But if I 
use kernel 2.6 (2.6.8-2-686 or 2.6.8-2-386) the system hangs after the 
following message Using anticipatory io scheduler.

SuSE Linux 9.1 works with kernel 2.6. But of course I want to use Debian.


Have you tried some newer 2.6 kernels ? Debian's 2.6.8 is crap for me 
(It's quite unfortunate that it was shipped in this state) and starting 
from 2.6.11 it gets vastly better. 2.6.11 kernels are available for sid, 
so you can easily get one for Sarge (it will work out of the box wrt 
sid/sarge differences).




Does anybody have an idea how to solve this problem? Maybe it's a 
compatibility problem with the scsi controller? Unfortunately the syslog 
is not written if I boot with kernel 2.6. So I cannot post the syslog. 
Enclosed you will find the syslog, which I get booting with kernel 2.4.


Thank you for any ideas.

Philipp

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Re: X won't start having upgraded from xsever to xorg


Tong Sun a écrit :
Hi, 


This is a real emergency. My X won't start now, having
upgraded from xsever to xorg. 

Is there any way I can have my X back? 

I saw in thread 


Routine upgrade of packages tracking etch has hosed
gnome
http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2005-09/1631.html

that there is way to restore using xserver instead of
xorg. I tried to follow it, but wasn't successful. 


I removed all xorg and xserver packages and reinstall
xserver from scratch, but still I was forced to
install xorg. 


switch your source list to sarge and apt-get update
then apt-get install xserver-xfree86, configure it

and switch back to sid (and dont forget to reupdate)

it worked very well for me



I installed the xorg, try its hardware auto-detection,
again, but still my X won't start. The sypmtom is,
still, the screen gets into graphic mode, with garbage
on it, and the whole system just freeze. I tried
Ctrl-Alt-\, Ctrl-Alt-F?, Ctrl-Alt-Del, nothing worked.

Please help. It's a real emergency, and I'm desperate.

Is there any way, any?

thanks a lot





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Re: Custom Kernel Won't Boot


Jon Roed a écrit :
I have just compiled a new kernel (2.6.13) and i cannot get it too boot.  When 
i select my new kernel from the boot loader i get the following error:


VFS: Cannot open root device 301 or unknown block (3,1)
Please append a correct root=  boot option
kernel panic: not syncing : VFS cannot open root device

i am wondering what to add as a boot option (i am running LILO) i tried 





make sure you have compiled your disk controller and filesystem drivers 
in-kernel (not as modules)





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Re: Custom Kernel Won't Boot


Alvin Oga a écrit :

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, [ISO-8859-1] Aurélien Campéas wrote:



VFS: Cannot open root device 301 or unknown block (3,1)
Please append a correct root=  boot option
kernel panic: not syncing : VFS cannot open root device

i am wondering what to add as a boot option (i am running LILO) i tried 



nothing you can do at lilo/grub/...
 

make sure you have compiled your disk controller and filesystem drivers 
in-kernel (not as modules)



if you do make(use) ide and fs modules ( for whatever odd reason )
- you need to make a custom initrd.gz file


a mkinitrd for the dummies, riddled with examples, would be neat

but for a costom kernel without initrd, also don't forget to disable 
initrd support (in the kernel) (it sits near the RAM fs section)



- you'd need to edit /linuxrc inside that initrd.gz file to
load those ide and fs drivers

more booting fun
Linux-Boot.net/Loaders

c ya
alvin






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Re: Custom Kernel Won't Boot


Jon Roed a écrit :
I can't  find a driver for my chipset in the kernel options.  I have an AMD 
Athlon 64 2800+.  The chipset according to the manual that came with the 
motherboard is a SiS746 Northbridge and SiS963 Southbridge.  I can't find an 
option for either of those.  Also, which IDE drivers should i make sure are 
installed ?





even is the doc doesn't talk bout it, try the Sis driver


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Re: Custom Kernel Won't Boot


Alvin Oga a écrit :

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, [ISO-8859-1] Aurélien Campéas wrote:



a mkinitrd for the dummies, riddled with examples, would be neat

but for a costom kernel without initrd, also don't forget to disable 
initrd support (in the kernel) (it sits near the RAM fs section)



do you man disable or enable  initrd support??
- at least its black-n-white, in that we supposedly
know what to do with that option


disable it



but what about other options like, ramdisk support too which is
NOT the same as initrd support


true, you can keep ramdisk support if you have some use for it



or do you only want to use loop devices ??


true


and why use loop devices, etc


cause they are useful to me ?


..

gazillion examples ...

- in each distro .. there typically is an initrd.gz or similarly
named files somewhere on their boot media

http://Linux-Boot.net/InitRD/Viewing/

	to break those initrd.gz so you can peek isnide would depend on how 
	they built it ... and sometimes its compressed and sometimes not

even if its named to imply one way or the other
( *.img vs *.gz vs *.foo )

- some use minix + cramfs ... which your system would need
to support for you to peek in



thanks I already knew that
not exactly a for the dummies (or lazy dogs) approach



for making your own ... 


look at the contents of other distro's initrd, since we all
know the distro's CAN install into most any hardware

after reading/studyng their stuff, you can make your own with:
http://Linux-Boot.net/InitRD
- ramdisk
- loop devices

ramdisk is limited in size by the kernel option at kernel compile
time ...

		dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ram0  bs=anything count=big 
		will NOT work


loopdevices can be any size




I'll have a look into that some time in the future ...

I've learnt not to rely on debian initrd-ed kernels because for some 
reason, on my personnal machine, the net driver failed to work if not 
loaded in-kernel. Initrd is fine for distribution kernels, but on a 
personnal level, it can help to know how to get rid of it.


Cheers,
Aurélien.



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Re: X.Org Hits Testing: Xorg MGA driver problem?

2005-09-10 Thread Aurélien Campéas


David E. Fox a écrit :

On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:12:17 +0200
Aurélien Campéas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Ben Pearre a écrit :


I'm very sorry for the possibly off-topic reply.

I have had one problem since my Unstable system went to Xorg, and I
don't know whether this is the place to air it.  Please forgive if
not.  If this is interesting, ask me for more info, as I've tried to
keep this brief:


[snip]

Same here : for an old MGA (Matrox Video Card), I have a corrupted 
display (completely unusable). I tested xorg yesterday and had to 



By any chance is your Matrox a Millenium G450? That's what I've been
using now for about four years. I had it working at one time with X.org
but that was back when I was using Mandrake. I also have been trying to
get the acceleration stuff working - but without success.


In fact it's a quite old MGA 1064SG. Maybe the support for this is 
fading as few people still use it.




For the moment, I'm still using XFree from sarge. Is there a compelling
reason to switch to X.org? 


The only compelling reason would be the end of xfree support for me.

Aurélien.


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Re: X.Org Hits Testing: Xorg MGA driver problem?

2005-09-10 Thread Aurélien Campéas


Aurélien Campéas a écrit :

David E. Fox a écrit :


On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:12:17 +0200
Aurélien Campéas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[snip]

Same here : for an old MGA (Matrox Video Card), I have a corrupted 
display (completely unusable). I tested xorg yesterday and had to 




By any chance is your Matrox a Millenium G450? That's what I've been
using now for about four years. I had it working at one time with X.org
but that was back when I was using Mandrake. I also have been trying to
get the acceleration stuff working - but without success.



In fact it's a quite old MGA 1064SG. Maybe the support for this is 
fading as few people still use it.




http://x.org/X11R6.8.2/doc/mga.4.html says it should be supported however.


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Re: X.Org Hits Testing: Xorg MGA driver problem?

2005-09-10 Thread Aurélien Campéas


Aurélien Campéas a écrit :

Aurélien Campéas a écrit :


David E. Fox a écrit :


On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:12:17 +0200
Aurélien Campéas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


[snip]

Same here : for an old MGA (Matrox Video Card), I have a corrupted 
display (completely unusable). I tested xorg yesterday and had to 





By any chance is your Matrox a Millenium G450? That's what I've been
using now for about four years. I had it working at one time with X.org
but that was back when I was using Mandrake. I also have been trying to
get the acceleration stuff working - but without success.




In fact it's a quite old MGA 1064SG. Maybe the support for this is 
fading as few people still use it.




http://x.org/X11R6.8.2/doc/mga.4.html says it should be supported however.



http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=320328

says it is a known bug,
sorry for the noise :-|



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Re: X.Org Hits Testing: Xorg MGA driver problem?

2005-09-08 Thread Aurélien Campéas


Ben Pearre a écrit :

I'm very sorry for the possibly off-topic reply.

I have had one problem since my Unstable system went to Xorg, and I
don't know whether this is the place to air it.  Please forgive if
not.  If this is interesting, ask me for more info, as I've tried to
keep this brief:


[snip]

Same here : for an old MGA (Matrox Video Card), I have a corrupted 
display (completely unusable). I tested xorg yesterday and had to 
immediately roll back to old sarge xfree, which fortunately was a 
painless operation.



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Re: probleme de connexion au ftp mirroir

2005-07-20 Thread Aurélien Beaujean

Le mercredi 20 juillet 2005 à 15:45, thefloz écrivait:
 je pense que le serveur est HS depuis cet aprem. j'ai essayé de
 telecharger des paquets sur ce serveur (via debian.org) mais pas
 possible...

J'ai été obligé de couper la machine pour rajouter de la capa disque.
150Go de plus, on va bien tenir 2 ans avec ça...


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Re: vsftpd and firewall - problems

2005-06-28 Thread Aurélien Campéas

Le mardi 28 juin 2005 à 10:04 -0400, Mariusz a écrit :
 HI.
 I have some problems with a vsftpd and firewall.
 
 I have a router from verizon where I set a rule for forwarding to the ftp 
 port 
 to the  server. This was working fine.
 When I setup a firewall on the server then I lost a passive mode of the ftp. 
 and I can't find right configuration.  Ftom local network i can connect 
 without problems but from outside I have problem.
 
 I can login, do pwd, cd .. ,  but I can't do ls:
 
 vsftpd.conf :[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ftp mar.dyndns.info
 Connected to mar.dyndns.info.
 220 Welcome to blah FTP service.
 Name (mar.dyndns.info:kajko):
 331 Please specify the password.
 Password:
 230 Login successful.
 Remote system type is UNIX.
 Using binary mode to transfer files.
 ftp pwd
 257 /home/kajko
 ftp cd ..
 250 Directory successfully changed.
 ftp pwd
 257 /home
 ftp ls
 200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV.
 150 Here comes the directory listing.
 
 * now it froze *

This is maybe stupid, but is the ftp client not supposed to also request
the passive mode ?




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Re: debian hosting service

2005-06-28 Thread Aurélien Campéas

Le mardi 28 juin 2005 à 09:17 -0400, Mark D. Hansen a écrit :
 can anyone recommend a good hosting company that provides debian sarge 
 (either dedicated or virtual private server)?
 
 

bytemark.co.uk ?



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Re: installing spindle in eclipse

2005-06-27 Thread Aurélien Campéas

Le dimanche 26 juin 2005 à 16:53 +0100, Alan Chandler a écrit :
How do you do it. How do you install a plugin (in this case spindle in
eclipse.

Hello Alan,

what version of Eclipse do you use ?

The version currently in sid seems to be still of 2.x generation. Is it
that ? Then uninstall it as quickly as possible and never touch it
again ... ;-)

... and go pick one fresh one on eclipse.org, for instance this
http://eclipse.objectweb.org/downloads/drops/R-3.0.2-200503110845/eclipse-SDK-3.0.2-linux-gtk.zip

unzip it in your *local* *personnal* folder (just forget about a
system-wide installation until you are so familiar with
eclipse/debian/everything else that you can do it eyes closed)

hop ! you have an instantly-working eclipse 3.

then, check that it does not come with its own jvm/jre (in subfolders),
and if so delete it so as to allow eclipse to really benefit from your
freshly-installed 1.5 jsdk.

then, plugin installation will be a piece of cake, too

have a good trip in eclipse-land :)

As user alan I selected update manager from the eclipse help/software
updates/updatemanger menu and selected the file on the computer (I have
downloaded it). I got to the point where is suggested installing it
in /usr/share/eclipse and then failed, with a message saying you cannot
install in the site file:/usr/share/eclipse/. It is considered non
updateable.

Thinking this was a permissions problem on /usr/share/eclipse, I logged in as
root and tried it again. Same problem.

eclipse in debian has been long broken ... go figure why ...

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[OT]Re: Setting up a Java development environment the debian way.

2005-06-23 Thread Aurélien Campéas

Le jeudi 23 juin 2005 à 12:59 +1200, Simon Kitching a écrit :
 On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 18:21 +0200, Aurélien Campéas wrote:
  Le mercredi 22 juin 2005 à 16:05 +0100, Alan Chandler a écrit :
   
  
  For the record, the static typing in Java is acknowledged as one of the
  worst imaginable (in short : it is mandatory but you have to go through
  its backdoor (read : defeat it) all the time to make working programs).
 
 It still provides more static type support than completely
 dynamically-typed languages like Ruby and Python. 

True. But how many errors in Python/Ruby programs are type errors ? 

 And if you use
 generics as provided in Java 1.5+ then this problem is resolved.

Only downcasting from collections is resolved with generics in 1.5,
not the covariance/contravariance problem (or the general type unsafety
of Java), is it ?

 
  
  OTOH, Working programs have been written in dynamically typed languages
  for ages. Yes, industrial strength programs (whetever that means).
  
  And I don't know any serious study about this topic. All we have is
  anecdotal developper experience/opinions. But you will be able to judge
  how important is static typing by yourself, again, when trying
  ruby/python/lisp ...
 
 This mail list isn't really the proper venue for this discussion so I'll
 just make one reply then shut up. All the following is of course just my
 opinion.

Right. I just can't resist a last followup ...

 
 Ruby/Python are excellent languages where the developers on the project
 are experienced and talented.

(Doesn't that mean that talented experienced developpers avoid Java and
practice Python/Ruby whenever possible ?)

Strangely, I have found that python is an excellent language where
developpers are complete beginners, because of less hurdles from code 
syntax to execution. Especially with students (I was one not long ago
and incidentely frequented some).

 
 However this isn't usually the case with any industrial scale
 development; the normal corporate IT department has people with a wide
 range of abilities, and in that situation the support of a statically
 typed language can be very useful (IMO).

That's marketing. Was never really proven.
Static typing is of course sometimes a good performance hack, when
applicable (which it is not, ironically, on Java/Smalltalk oo-like
languages).

 
 And anyway it is *extremely* difficult to sell non-technical management
 on development in Ruby/Python. Java's marketing has, however, raised its
 awareness level to a point where the senior suits will actually consider
 it. So from a purely practical point of view, if you are interested in
 learning tools that will be of use in a commercial environment then Java
 is much more useful to know than Ruby/Python.

Oh, I imagine if the suits were allowed to dictate the choice of
building materials for planes instead of engineers, we would fly in wood
and cast iron (proven materials which most industry worker have already
met in their lives) planes :)

hmmm, I decided to learn the tools that could help make me a better
worker, not agreable to the suits. 

  
  There is an aspect of Java that is quite misunderstood : it is a good
  language / platform not because of some technical merits (it is really a
  rehash of 60's technology) but because of the division of labor it
  allows in the industry (and some other social or political
  properties) : 
  * separation from the designers (or so-called software architects) that
  draw UML pictures and the coders (so-called code-monkeys that do the
  supposedly unintelligent translation from high-level pictures to PL
  level)
  * mass availability of Java programmers (thus supposed
  interchangeability of those)
  * good marketing pressure from Sun and other big players to make Java
  the new COBOL
  
  All the hype about Java being an OO-language (a very poor one indeed)
  and bringing encapsulation to programming in the large masks the fact
  that the big organizations that use Java need to encapsulate, indeed,
  the many mediocre (read : insufficiently trained on theoretical and
  practical levels, thus cheaper) programmers that make their huge dev.
  teams.
 
 I pretty much agree with this. Java is a middle-of-the-road compromise
 language. I don't think it's a very poor OO language, it's an average
 one.

Interesting. What would you put below the Java average, then ?

  The only revolutionary thing about Java is the fact that it
 compiles to portable bytecode (well, it isn't actually the first to do
 that either).

Smalltalk did that when Java was not even a straw in Gosling's eye.
Also, see Perl and Python (all compiled to portable bytecodes).

  But, in a twist of fate, in Java's server niche that is
 almost irrelevant.
 
 And J2EE was horribly over-complicated, a fine example of
 design-by-committee. However under pressure from alternative
 nicely-designed frameworks like Spring and Hibernate, J2EE is becoming
 more streamlined and easier to use. J2EE 1.5 should

Re: About blackdown

2005-06-23 Thread Aurélien Campéas

Le mercredi 22 juin 2005 à 17:21 -0400, Tong a écrit :
 On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:01:56 +0100, Alan Chandler wrote:
 
  Obviously all this from standard debian packages if that is possible
 
 I've noticed that many of the answers for this thread suggest to avoid the
 blackdown. Any justification for that? 

Had problems when trying to make Tomcat/Jboss stuff work. It suddenly
worked when I used sun sdk instead. Since I lost a lot of time because
of this I can only warn you. Otherwise, blackdown java worked quite well
for other purposes.


 
 The reason I'm asking is that I asked a similar question a while ago, and
 got a suggest to use blackdown. I was just about to give it a try.
 
 Here are the quotes from the original suggest:
 
 ,-
 | I am using blackdown j2re1.4, it works.
 | 
 | [...]
 | 
 | the blackdown j2re1.4 works perfectly fine, but it's not DFSG free software
 | due to licensing conditions imposed by Sun.
 | 
 | There are other projects to create a real free software java platform, but
 | they are not finished yet.
 | 
 | [...]
 | 
 | The sun system is a reasonable alternative, but if I understand correctly 
 it's
 | essentially the same as the blackdown system anyway, blackdown port java to
 | linux for Sun (and us).  And it's packaged for debian...
 `-
 
 Thanks
 
 
 
 



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Re: Setting up a Java development environment the debian way.

Le mercredi 22 juin 2005 à 08:01 +0100, Alan Chandler a écrit :
 I have decided the time has come to learn java and use it to develop some web 
 based applications.  In particular I have a family tree project I want to 
 conduct.
 
 I am a complete newbie as far as java is concerned.

Then, allow me to question your choice of Java as a web development
language  platform.

Are you a newbie wrt Java the language ? or Java the web dev tools ?

If so (if either ...), and if this is for a pet project and not mandated
by the corporate drones, why not have a look at some excellent, 100%
free, alternative languages  platforms ? I can cite a few :

python / zope, quixote,  ...
ruby / ruby-on-rails ...
common-lisp / uncommon-web, tbnl ...

Guess what, for a good part these frameworks (and the choice of their
mplementation language) have been made by people disgusted by the Java /
J2EE / whatever way of doing things. They are more lightweight and
pleasant to use. Do yourself a favor, don't go the Java way ;-).

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Re: Setting up a Java development environment the debian way.

Le mercredi 22 juin 2005 à 15:48 +0200, Aurélien Campéas a écrit :
 Le mercredi 22 juin 2005 à 08:01 +0100, Alan Chandler a écrit :
  I have decided the time has come to learn java and use it to develop some 
  web 
  based applications.  In particular I have a family tree project I want to 
  conduct.
  
  I am a complete newbie as far as java is concerned.
 
 Then, allow me to question your choice of Java as a web development
 language  platform.
 
 Are you a newbie wrt Java the language ? or Java the web dev tools ?
 
 If so (if either ...), and if this is for a pet project and not mandated
 by the corporate drones, why not have a look at some excellent, 100%
 free, alternative languages  platforms ? I can cite a few :
 
 python / zope, quixote,  ...
 ruby / ruby-on-rails ...
 common-lisp / uncommon-web, tbnl ...

or

Scheme / SISCWeb
Smalltalk / SeaSide





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Re: Setting up a Java development environment the debian way.

Le mercredi 22 juin 2005 à 16:05 +0100, Alan Chandler a écrit :
 On Wednesday 22 June 2005 14:48, Aurélien Campéas wrote:
  Le mercredi 22 juin 2005 à 08:01 +0100, Alan Chandler a écrit :
 ...
   I am a complete newbie as far as java is concerned.
 
  Then, allow me to question your choice of Java as a web development
  language  platform.
 
  Are you a newbie wrt Java the language ? or Java the web dev tools ?
 
 I am a newbie for both

Good.
I would be interested, then, in having some feedback from your progress.
Do you intend to take notes along your way in this project ? (sure,
debian-user is not an adequate place, but some blog can be sufficient) -
but off course don't feel obliged to do that :)

 
 
  If so (if either ...), and if this is for a pet project and not mandated
  by the corporate drones, why not have a look at some excellent, 100%
  free, alternative languages  platforms ? I can cite a few :
 
  python / zope, quixote,  ...
  ruby / ruby-on-rails ...
 
 I did take a long close look at ruby-on-rails.  See below for why I convinced 
 myself not to take that route.
 
 
  Guess what, for a good part these frameworks (and the choice of their
  mplementation language) have been made by people disgusted by the Java /
  J2EE / whatever way of doing things. They are more lightweight and
  pleasant to use. Do yourself a favor, don't go the Java way ;-).
 
 
 Let me give you my reasoning for thinking about going down the java route.
 
 First.  I have worked for the same system development company for the past 33 
 years.  However the last time I programmed commercially (ie I was paid to 
 write software) was in about 1978 (in PDP 11 assembler).  I was probably 
 still very technically involved with software development during the 1980's 
 when I was head of a product development unit in my company and and remained 
 responsible for the strategic technical vision for the product.  In mid 
 1990's I started moving over to becoming a business expert (in Electricity 
 Competion), and although I did some data and process modelling as a way of 
 understanding requriements, I have not done any technical work since.
 
 Two.  Because I do no technical work at work - although with a technology 
 company - I play with the technology at home. It has become my hobby

This goes against Java for sure ... (I'm sure everyone there understand
it's only my opinion : flame disclaimer).

 
 Three:  I am very much at the front end sales and bidding process.  We 
 frequently bid applications requiring web front ends to a database, the core 
 software which we use and then enhance is almost always a java servlet/JSP 
 implementation, which I don't properly understand the issues of.  I would 
 like to understand better the technical nuances of what is being bid - and 
 understand what is hard and what is easy to do.

Good. Then indeed, go ahead and try the Java way. But don't forget that
while you will be able to discover the problems with the Java way on
your own for sure, you will see more of them when you will have tried
some of the branches of the alternative.

But you can obviously only do one thing at a time.

 
 I have heard the arguments (specifically the ones suggesting using ruby on 
 rails) which I only partially buy into (ruby terseness seems partially to be 
 lack of type checking - does this really work in industrial strength 
 application development?) but I have no frame of reference for the the other 
 side of the argument.

Can you define industrial strength application development ? It would
help a lot frame an answer on this.

For the record, the static typing in Java is acknowledged as one of the
worst imaginable (in short : it is mandatory but you have to go through
its backdoor (read : defeat it) all the time to make working programs).

OTOH, Working programs have been written in dynamically typed languages
for ages. Yes, industrial strength programs (whetever that means).

And I don't know any serious study about this topic. All we have is
anecdotal developper experience/opinions. But you will be able to judge
how important is static typing by yourself, again, when trying
ruby/python/lisp ...

 
 So I have two reasons to go java.  One to understand what technical people at 
 work are telling me, the other to really understand the other side of the my 
 programming language is best arguments.  
 
 But I will go the Ruby route if this doesn't work out.  But I have to try 
 Java 
 first.

There is an aspect of Java that is quite misunderstood : it is a good
language / platform not because of some technical merits (it is really a
rehash of 60's technology) but because of the division of labor it
allows in the industry (and some other social or political
properties) : 
* separation from the designers (or so-called software architects) that
draw UML pictures and the coders (so-called code-monkeys that do the
supposedly unintelligent translation from high-level pictures to PL
level)
* mass availability

Re: Setting up a Java development environment the debian way.

Le mercredi 22 juin 2005 à 09:59 -0600, Glenn English a écrit :
 On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 08:01 +0100, Alan Chandler wrote:

 
  2) What run time environment

Don't try anything other than Sun JDK (especially *not* the blackdown
javas).

 
 I'm using Sun's JDK 5 (or whatever they're calling it this week). At the
 end of the install, there's a URL to go to to see if it and the mozilla
 plugin work.
 
  Obviously all this from standard debian packages if that is possible
 
 Sun java isn't what Debian defines as free. I went through a
 Java-on-Debian HOWTO, but couldn't get it to work. Sun's install dox
 did.

It's all there.

http://serios.net/content/debian/java/with-java-package.php



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Re: Setting up a Java development environment the debian way.

Le mercredi 22 juin 2005 à 17:20 +0100, Alan Chandler a écrit :
 On Wednesday 22 June 2005 12:24, Adam Hardy wrote:
 ...
  I use JBoss, Tomcat, Sun JDK, Eclipse, ant (or
  maven) and I have no issues.
 
 
 I am beginning to get a picture.  But one thing is still confusing me on the 
 server end.
 
 What is the difference between JBoss and Tomcat.  The JBoss web site seems to 
 imply that JBoss incorporates Tomcat.  What extra does it give, and will I 
 need it.

Basically, Tomcat is a servlet container : it handles JSP (so called
Java Server Pages).

JBoss brings the full J2EE stuff, javabeans. (my god !). It comes with
its own Tomcat probably because of the sheer complexity of Tomcat/Jboss
interaction.

 
 -- 
 Alan Chandler
 http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk
 
 



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Re: dma_intr - please help me troubleshoot this error!!

2005-06-16 Thread Aurélien Campéas

Le jeudi 16 juin 2005  10:53 +0530, Siju George a crit :
 Hi all,
 
 My Sarge installation went alright and also I installed apache, php4,
 samba, postfix, mysql packages but when I reboot I get the following
 error.

 Toill now I have used only Ext3 file system this time I dared to use
 ReiserFS is it a problem with ReiserFS???

Looks like either

1- you've got a dying or malfunctioning hard drive
2- a bad connection (cable ?) between the HD and your motherboard

check n2 first ...

WRT reiserfs it has been many years I haven't seen bug reports, but you
never know ...

the dma stuff is lower level than the file system anyway

 da: dma_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
 hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=9872047,
 high=0, low=9  872047,
 sector=9871997
 end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 9871997
 hda: dma_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
 hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=9872047,
 high=0, low=9  872047,
 sector=9872005
 end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 9872005
 hda: dma_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
 hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=9872047,
 high=0, low=9  872047,
 sector=9872013
 end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 9872013
 hda: dma_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
 hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=9872047,
 high=0, low=9  872047,
 sector=9872021
 end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 9872021
 hda: dma_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
 hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=9872047,
 high=0, low=9  872047,
 sector=9872029
 end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 9872029
 hda: dma_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
 hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=9872047,
 high=0, low=9  872047,
 sector=9872037
 end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 9872037
 hda: dma_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
 hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=9872047,
 high=0, low=9  872047,
 sector=9872045
 end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 9872045
 
 



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Re: xmms skips all files

2005-06-16 Thread Aurélien Campéas

Le jeudi 16 juin 2005  07:45 -0300, Francisco Borges a crit :
 Hello,
 
 I've been running sarge for more than a year and now xmms decided to
 stop working. Sound works fine with Real player and with amarok.
 
 If I load a list of existing files into xmms it just keeps going through
 the list endlessly, like if the files didn't exist.
 
 Any hints??

Did you check that the output plugin matches the current available
kernel sound system (like Alsa or OSS) ?

 
 Some details:
 ii  xmms 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2
 ii  xmms-cdread  0.14a-11
 ii  xmms-dev 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2
 ii  xmms-fmradio 1.5-1
 ii  xmms-qbble   1.2-10   
 ii  xmms-stats   0.2-2
 ii  xmms-status-plugin   1.0.0-2  
 ii  alsa-base1.0.8-7  
 ii  alsa-oss 1.0.8-1  
 ii  alsa-utils   1.0.8-4  
 
 And if you are wondering why on earth I would like to use xmms if I
 already know about amarok: because amarok crashes the whole desktop 
 environment when playing certain specific mp3s I have...
 
 -- 
   Francisco.
  __o
 `\,
  _(*)/(*)_
 
 



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Re: Inkscape (and others) make debian freeze

2005-06-15 Thread Aurélien Campéas

Le mercredi 15 juin 2005 à 01:22 +0800, Emile Kroeger a écrit :
 (oops, accidental single-user reply ... damn gmail !)
 
  Looks like inkscape leaks memory too fast ... then your swap fills (your
  machine becomes slower), and when filled you get into an OOM (out of
  memory) situation, and your poor kernel tries hard to recover ... :(
 
  When inkscape is killed, gnome still has to come out of swap space by
  pieces ...
 
   What I've been doing is a) avoiding inkscape
 
  especially when there is sodipodi available ...
 
 I don't think the problem's with inkscape, since
 
 a) inkscape is a relatively stable and mature program (at least, I
 haven't found any other accounts of this kind of stuff on the 'net)

a) ahem, is there really something like a stable and mature C++
program ? ok I'm only half-joking. With all its matureness, it could
still have a few weak spots (it's a complex program after all) and leak
memory.

b) remember, you are using the debian package, this could differ
slightly from other instances of inkscape you tried before

c) I suspect a mem leak because of the symptoms you described (asphyxia
of your system)

 
 b) I used to get the same problem with mozilla and firefox (hmm, but
 now that I remember, I think it mainly happened on pages with Java in
 them, I'm not quite sure)

maybe you experienced faulty builds of those

 It probably *is* some kind of memory leak, but I don't think an
 Inkscape bug is the main cause :-P

could be in the libs inkscape uses, off course, but since now inkscape
is the only culprit ...


(also, please, don't CC me, I'm reading this list)



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RE: Inkscape (and others) make debian freeze

2005-06-15 Thread Aurélien Campéas

Le mercredi 15 juin 2005 à 08:08 -0500, Patrick Kirchner a écrit :
  -Original Message-
  From: Aurélien Campéas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:53 AM
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Subject: Re: Inkscape (and others) make debian freeze
  Le mercredi 15 juin 2005 à 01:22 +0800, Emile Kroeger a écrit :
   (oops, accidental single-user reply ... damn gmail !)
Looks like inkscape leaks memory too fast ... then your 
(your machine becomes slower), and when filled you get 
memory) situation, and your poor kernel tries hard to 
When inkscape is killed, gnome still has to come out of 
by pieces ...
 What I've been doing is a) avoiding inkscape
especially when there is sodipodi available ...

 Just my $0.02 here, Inkscape causes my machine to lockup
 as well.  I just assumed it was somoe sort of problem
 my computer hardware at first but it only happens in Inkscape.

What usage pattern for people that experience the lockups ?

I launched inkscape just to see.

It went from 77 to ~ 350 Mb ram consumption, the time to open and browse
the content-rich tutorials.

However I note that even when keeping  and playing in a mostly empty
workspace after I closed the tutorials, most of the mem was not
released.

This looks deeply wrong to me ...

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Re: debian package list

2005-06-15 Thread Aurélien Campéas

Le mercredi 15 juin 2005 à 08:01 +0200, Mart Frauenlob a écrit :
 Hello Simon,
 
 Simon wrote:
 
  Is there an easy place to get a list of installed packages... To make 
  sure that i dont miss any in the new install?
 
 dpkg --get-selections
 
 should bring up all you need.

... to be piped into a

dpkg --set-selections 

on the new host, like in

ssh old-host dpkg --get-selections | dpkg --set-selections ; apt-get
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Re: Disk Mirroring in Sarge howto

Le mardi 14 juin 2005 à 09:27 +0530, Siju George a écrit :
 On 6/13/05, Aurélien Campéas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Le lundi 13 juin 2005 à 12:58 +0530, Siju George a écrit :
   Hi all,
  
   I would like to implement Disk mirroring ( Raid1 ) in Debian Sarge. Is
   it possible to configure it while installation if I have both hard
   disks attached??
  
   Could someone please tell me what is the easiest way ( steps ) to get
   this done???
  
   I hope it will be easy because the Installer has an option to
   configure software RAID but I a not able to get doing it successfully
   :-(
  
  Can you give more details about what's going on ? Without much, nobody
  will be able to help.
  
 
 Thankyou so much Aurélien for responding!

Note that I know next to nothing wrt RAID  Debian. But you need to
explain your concerns better.

 
 I have two hard disks 40 GB each! I want to have RAID 1 including the
 / partition and boot loader. ie if one hard disk goes down I should be
 able to boot from the other one.
 
 How do I configure it with the installer??
 
 I want to have the following partitions in both the hard disk
 
 / - 500 MB - Primary
 swap - 2 GB - Primary
 /usr - 5 GB - Primary
 /home - 500 MB - Logical
 /tmp - 5 GB - Logical
 /var/log - 5 GB -logical
 /var - rest of the disk - logical

Do you *really* need to split hairs like that ? Do you know the
drawbacks of segmenting your hard drives into so many partitions vs. the
supposed benefits ?


 I prefer ext3 or ReiserFS for file systems.

I now prefer reiserfs over ext3. 

 
 How should I go about it??? is it possible to configure these
 partitions in the first hard disk and finish the install and then
 later do the mirroring?

I suspect not, but again, I didn't try even once ...

  or is it possible to do the mirroring also
 during the install???

See Alvin's answer.

Check by yourself : just go ahead and try RAID from the installer ! And
then tell us how it went :)


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Re: Disk Mirroring in Sarge howto

Le mardi 14 juin 2005 à 16:09 +0530, Siju George a écrit :
 I first created identical partitions in each hard disk and marked them
 as RAID Physical volumes. The I created the RAID devices and then
 specified mount points and ReiserFS :-)
 
 It worked al right and easy but when I installed the boot loader I
 think it got installed only on the hd0 and not on hd1!!!
 
 how do I verify this???
 
 and how can  testif the RAID is woring fine???

I hope someone familiar with RAID reads this ... (now at least you have
given enough context to help your helpers help you)

What is the output of, say, dmesg (after a reboot), mount, and fdisk on
all your drives ? (could be a starting point to see what's happening)

(plize don't send me directly your answers, I'm on the list and need not
receive twice the same messages)

Aurélien.


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Re: Disk Mirroring in Sarge howto

Le mardi 14 juin 2005 à 03:57 -0700, Alvin Oga a écrit :
 
 On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Siju George wrote:
 
  Yes its partition 2 . what would be an appropriate location???
  I just followed the BSD way where swap (b) comes immediately after / (a).
  What is appropriate for linux??
 
 swap can be anywhere on the disks
 
 swap is supposedly never used ...

but it is, aggressively -ie even when you still have boatloads of free
ram

 
 why would you put swap in between ( / ) files you need hundreds of times
 per hour  and /var files and /usr files ... 
   the head has to skip over swap space
   -- too much moving of the heads ...
 
 - ask 100 people the same questions .. you will get 100 different replies
   for where to put swap and why ... ( experimental data vs i heard in
   the grapevine )
  

put your swap at the beginning of the disk 
a) no interleaving with proper data
b) this is usually the fastest zone of disks, good for swap

  so I hope 500 MB is o.k??? or is it more??? :-)
 
 zero or all of the disk for user
 
 the system should be able to clean itself
   - log rotates in pariticular
 
  
  last time I did't check but what would you suggest?? but I've noticed
  increase upto 100 MB sometimes in a matter of two days.
 
 100MB/day  -- and you want 5GB --- that last you about days
 assuming there is no log rotation and compression 
 
 /var/log is temporary data
 
 /var/cache or /var/apt is temporary or not .. depending on what you do
 with the files
 
  Could you please explain this a little more to me?
 
 nah ...

Creating a lot of multiple partition, uh, so as to do like the BSD guys
is a perfect way to burn yourself. 

Unless you know exctly your needs in advance, you probably need only
three partitions : swap, system (everything but /home or /var or ...
whatever moves a lot), moving data (/home , etc. ...)

   
  Do you suggets I create a seperate /opt partition??? if so how much size??
 
 i always use /opt ... and its all the disks space that the system doesnt
 use

nobody has to use opt

/usr/local is perfectly fine

   
  I 've only used Ext3 till now because I heard data recover is
  difficult in all others except ext2.
 
 you should NEVER have to recover data in the first place ..
   - something else is wrong if you do
 
   - if you like fiddling with inodes and meta-data, that'd be fun

that's good advice ...

 
  and also I understand that ReiserFS is better than XFS if the system
  goes down suddenly due to power failure. Don't know much about JFS :-(
 
 better is all relative to what and where's the imperical data or source
 code is what is say
 
 power failure problems is pretty much the same problems for all fs
 
   - its a matter of how fast can you write your metadata 
   without corrupting the rest of the fs that was good prior to
   the power failing and you have say 2ms to fix it all up and clean
   up and exit before the disk write head goes bonkers
 
   - writing during a power failure is crazy, even if its to flush
   the cache

Don't forget that common hard drives will lose their cache in case of
power failure ; sync is not, in this case, what it says

no journalled FS can help - an UPS can.

 
 c ya
 alvin
 
 



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Re: Inkscape (and others) make debian freeze

Le mercredi 15 juin 2005 à 00:54 +0800, Emile Kroeger a écrit :
 Um, I'm not sure it's the right place to ask this, but ...
 
 Inkscape regularly makes debian freeze : It slows down, then becomes
 nonresponsive and then, after a *long* wait (20 minutes ?), it closes
 inkscape, and all's abck to normal. When it's frozen, Gnome refreshes
 very slowly (if at all, often it's all black), and even the terminal is
 slow - too slow for me to log in, it times out before asking for my
 password. Often, all I can do is physically reboot the machine, which
 is ungood.

Looks like inkscape leaks memory too fast ... then your swap fills (your
machine becomes slower), and when filled you get into an OOM (out of
memory) situation, and your poor kernel tries hard to recover ... :(

When inkscape is killed, gnome still has to come out of swap space by
pieces ...

My guesses.

Go search for rlimit, that could help.


 
 What I've been doing is a) avoiding inkscape

especially when there is sodipodi available ...

  and b) when i use
 inkscape, have a root terminal already open. If anything shows sign of
 slowing down, I immediatly switch to it and killall inkscape. That
 works, but isn't very elegant.
 
 I used to get this problem with mozilla and firefox (now that I don't
 use that machine for the web anymore, I don't know if it happens) -
 exactly the same symptoms, so the problem isn't in inkscape. I don't
 think I had it with any other programs.
 
 Um, I have Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 (I get mostly testing from the
 repository - is that a good idea ?), gnome 2.8.3 ...
 
 I googled a bit but didn't find anything too similar (but them, I'm not
 sure what to google for)
 
 I would be grateful for any help or information ! This is a pain in the
 neck :-P
 
 Emile
 
 



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Re: sarge: post-install sata drive cause startup failure

Le lundi 13 juin 2005 à 00:58 -0400, john doe a écrit :
 Sorry, I triggered the send button before finishing. Here is the full story:
 
 My installation procedure is as follows:
 1. Install Sarge with a single IDE drive attached to the machine;
 2. after a successful installation, attached a SATA drive the machine,
 did cfdisk/mke2fs, added into /etc/fstab to make /dev/sda1 mount at
 startup.
 3. restarted machine again, here is the error message (roughly):
 
 Device /dev/sda1 doesn't exist or invalid
 fsck failed. Please repair manually.
 CONTROL-D will exit from this shell and continue system startup
 
 Yet if I remove the line in /etc/fstab, and the startup will be okay
 and I can manually do fdisk -l /dev/sda and mount /dev/sda1 without
 any problem. So my suspicion is that the related ata kernel modules
 are not loaded when fsck tries to look into the drive. I'm also
 suspecting this problem wont happen if the sata drive were present at
 the time of installing sarge. So now how can fix this problem at the
 post-install stage? I'll probably looking the modprobe family of
 tools...

look at modconf

it will let you choose the sata driver, and will make your choice
permanent


 
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Re: Scanning Front End

Le lundi 13 juin 2005 à 02:29 -0400, Robert Wolfe a écrit :
 Hey all!  Was wondering what a DECENT fron end for KDE or GNOME and sane 
 would be?

How is sane (xsane actually) not decent ?



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Re: can I use packages from dotdeb for Sarge???

Le lundi 13 juin 2005 à 10:56 +0530, Siju George a écrit :
 Hi all,
 
 Please let me know if it is all right to use LAMP packages from dotdeb
 
 http://dotdeb.org/
 
  for Sarge?? Since it is a new distribution will it work properly??

Why use those backports ? Sarge should come with everything you need
(esp. with respect to LAMP) and decently recent.

And no, the woody backports may not work properly on Sarge.


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Re: Disk Mirroring in Sarge howto

Le lundi 13 juin 2005 à 12:58 +0530, Siju George a écrit :
 Hi all,
 
 I would like to implement Disk mirroring ( Raid1 ) in Debian Sarge. Is
 it possible to configure it while installation if I have both hard
 disks attached??
 
 Could someone please tell me what is the easiest way ( steps ) to get
 this done???
 
 I hope it will be easy because the Installer has an option to
 configure software RAID but I a not able to get doing it successfully
 :-(

Can you give more details about what's going on ? Without much, nobody
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Re: Scanning Front End

Le lundi 13 juin 2005 à 12:09 -0400, Robert Wolfe a écrit :
 On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Aurélien Campéas wrote:
 
  Le lundi 13 juin 2005 à 02:29 -0400, Robert Wolfe a écrit :
  Hey all!  Was wondering what a DECENT fron end for KDE or GNOME and sane
  would be?
 
  How is sane (xsane actually) not decent ?
 
 I should have said ANY FRONT END.

What does it change ?

Have you tried xsane ? It's vastly better than ANY of the crapware I had
the misfortune to work with under Winpain.

BTW, please don't CC me, I'm on the list, thank you.



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Re: problem while installing vmware 5.0 on debian

2005-05-20 Thread Aurélien Campéas

Le jeudi 19 mai 2005 à 18:53 -0400, Jason Wang a écrit :
 mmm.. it doesn't work for some reason, here is the output:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] apt-cache search vmware
 lg-issue86 - Issue 86 of the Linux Gazette.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] apt-get remove lg-issue86
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 Package lg-issue86 is not installed, so not removed
 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 36 not upgraded.
 

you said formerly : 

so i tried uninstall the alien version.. then
tries to install with all distro version again.. sadly, it just gave
me an error:
A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.


I infer from this that you made a .deb out of the rpm and then 
dpkg -i debianized-vmware.deb

Is that correct ?

If so, try

dpkg -l | grep foo

where foo is the name of the .deb you created out of the rpm
you SHOULD see it there if it was properly installed

Secondly, I don't see how the tarball version (.tar.gz or .tar.bz2) will
complain about a previously installed .deb or .rpm. Have you tried
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Re: problem while installing vmware 5.0 on debian

2005-05-19 Thread Aurélien Campéas

Le mercredi 18 mai 2005 à 19:05 -0400, Jason Wang a écrit :
 mmm.. now i have another problem.. I've tried to install with the all
 distro version, it wouldn't work.. but, i tried alien version
 (converting rpm to deb),

You're asking for trouble. Why bother with the rpm package ?

  it installed.. but then, the vmware-config.pl
 doesn't work still.. so i tried uninstall the alien version.. then
 tries to install with all distro version again.. sadly, it just gave
 me an error:
 A previous installation of VMware software has been detected.

sure

now, try to

apt-cache search vmware

and 

apt-get remove `the correct entry`

then proceed to install vmware from the tarball, and maybe without
applying any patch before






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Re: project accounting application in Debian?

2005-05-19 Thread Aurélien Campéas

Le jeudi 19 mai 2005 à 11:12 +0200, Nacho a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 I am looking for a program (probably a frontend to a database) for store and
 analize data related to a little business; something like SAP/R3 but smaller
 and simpler.
 
 What I want is to insert into a database data such as the time an employee was
 working in such machine, the amount of pieces which he made during that
 time, the cost of each part he used to make the piece... and in this way with
 every procedure we make, so at last we can easily know how much time and money
 really costed a piece we produce, how can we improve the costs...
 
 I think this is something like data warehouse or data mining... but it's just
 for a familiar business of about 4 or 6 people working on it.
 
 Maybe you know something for this purpose?
 
 My idea is to just use a database such as PostgreSQL and develop several perl
 scripts to make what I want... but well, I just wondered if there is something
 already available like this, so I don't spend too much time on it.
 
 Thanks for your help:
 
 Nacho

Have you looked at Compiere ?

 
 
 -- 
 No book comes out of a vacuum (G. Buehler)
 http://www.lascartasdelavida.com
 
 
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Re: problem while installing vmware 5.0 on debian

2005-05-18 Thread Aurélien Campéas

Le mardi 17 mai 2005 à 18:57 -0400, Jason Wang a écrit :
 hi, i'm trying to install vmware 5.0 on debian sarge.. and i can't get
 it to work.. i first downloaded the vmware from the offical site (the
 tar package), and started to install.. the install went fine, then i
 patched vmware-any-any-update90.. then i ran vmware-config.pl, that's
 when problem poped up, when it tries to compile my kernal-headers, it
 gave me this error:
 Your kernel was built with gcc version 3.3.5, while you are trying to use
 /usr/bin/gcc version 3.3.6. This configuration is not recommended and 
 VMware
 Workstation may crash if you'll continue. Please try to use exactly same
 compiler as one used for building your kernel. Do you want to go with compiler
 /usr/bin/gcc version 3.3.6 anyway? [no] y
 
 i answered y, and then in the end, it gave me this error:
 What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your 
 running
 kernel? [/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.10/include]

Strange, I have this one :

[/lib/modules/2.6.11-1-686-smp/build/include]

(it matches a kernel from sid)

you are running your privately compiled kernel ? have you tried with
what's readily available from Debian ?

Aurélien.

Extreme fear can neither fight nor fly. -- William Shakespeare, The
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Re: i845

2005-05-09 Thread Aurélien Campéas

Le lundi 09 mai 2005 à 09:16 -0500, Kent West a écrit :
 debian wrote:
 
 
  Hello,
 
  I have debian installed on a new pc (P4, 512mb ram, intel onboard i845).
  Everything works, i installed latest kernel (2.6.8.11), i have i810 as
  driver in my XF86config file but the problem is that i only can use
  1024x768 with a default depth of 8.
 
  If i take 16, then i go back to 640x480.
 
  Now, this card should be a problem about this because the vga card is
  using ram frow the computer and has no (or almost none) own memory.
 
  Anyone knows how i can solve this so that i have higher resolution
  with a depth of 16 ?
 
 
 Sounds like your BIOS is reporting too small an amount of Video RAM;
 look in the BIOS for a RAM memory setting and see if you can increase it.
 
 (If you have a Dell, they had a buggy BIOS on at least one system that
 misreported the amount of available video RAM, so even if you set it to
 8 in the BIOS, it still only reported 1 to the OS.)

if this is the case, just have a look there :
http://www.chzsoft.com.ar/855patch.html


 
 
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Re: Debian Installation

2005-05-09 Thread Aurélien Campéas

Le lundi 09 mai 2005  11:10 -0700, Yelamanchi, Yamuna a crit :
 Hi,
 

Hi,

  
 
 I downloaded the FULL CD set of 14 CDs from the Debian website for
 i386 processor.
 

It's a shame there are only 14 of them. Wait until Etch, the next next
stable Debian, there are more than 20 DVDs planned. I hope you can see
by this metric that Debian is far superior to anything else :)

  
 
 I installed the OS successfully using CD 1 (out of 14).
 

That's rather unsurprising, considering how really good it is. I hope
you will let your customers know.

  
 
 During installation, it did not ask me to load the additional 13 CDs 
 
  

You probably missed the apt-setup step. If you want to register your 13
CDs as valid package source, just type

apt-setup

as root, and choose the CDROM method ... and prepare the CDs.

 
 I read the instructions on CD 2 on how to install it but they are not
 clear. 
 
  
 
 I am totally clueless about what to do with the remaining 13 CDs, why
 I need them, how to install them etc.
 

In fact, unless you plan to live on a broadband-less Island, unconnected
to the outside world except by avian carriers (note that TCP/IP over
pigeons has been successfully tested, it's only the latency that causes
problems), your 13 CDs are probably useless.

99,99% of debian (except the small Netinst CD needed to bootstrap the
system) can install itself straight from the Net.

You see, the 13 remant CDs contain each approximatively 7,1 % of the
complete Debian archive for the soon-to-be-stable Sarge release, 99% of
which will be of no use for your customers. They contain various
APPLICATIONS bundled as PACKAGES. But the remainging 1% may be great for
you (and them).

 
 Can you please help! I am trying to evaluate Debian to recommend it to
 my customers.
  

Customers of Intel Corp ?

By the way, do you intend to evaluate what's Debian is worth for your
customers just by discovering it yourself right now ? Is that really
fair ?

 
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Re: installing X causes RAID to fail

2005-05-04 Thread Aurélien Campéas

Le mardi 03 mai 2005 à 15:11 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a
écrit :

 I'm using sarge with kernel 2.3.6-2.386

What kernel is that ?

 
  Thank you..
 
 
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printing with gnumeric

2005-05-03 Thread Aurélien Campéas

Dear list,

Am I the only one for which gnumeric freezes whenever I try printing (or
just doing a preview) a sheet ? ... Experiences about that ? Thanks,
Aurélien. 


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Re: printing with gnumeric

2005-05-03 Thread Aurélien Campéas

Le mardi 03 mai 2005 à 14:01 +0200, Aurélien Campéas a écrit :
 Dear list,
 
 Am I the only one for which gnumeric freezes whenever I try printing (or
 just doing a preview) a sheet ? ... Experiences about that ? Thanks,
 Aurélien. 
 

Sorry, this is on SARGE, off course. The printer is a cups controlled
thing. Printing works fine otherwise (e.g with openoffice, lyx, etc.)

 
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Re: I need help with TeX administration on Debian Sarge

2005-05-03 Thread Aurélien Campéas

Le mardi 03 mai 2005 à 11:16 -0600, Paul E Condon a écrit :
 I am not a TeX expert. I have books and I am searching the Web. I found
 a package that is supposed to do a thing that I want, namely newsletr.
 I want to install it on my Sarge system, which already has tetex package
 installed and running. But I can't figure out what to do in order to
 the TeX package, newsletr, into tetex the Debian way.

hmmm, when there is no glowing debian way, the normal way applies ...

  The instructions
 from ctan.org on managing a one-person TeX system seem to assume a starting
 point in the TeX config files that differs from what was set up by aptitude.

which point ? please give details

 I can't make out what I really need to do, and I'm almost certain that
 Debian tetex package eliminates the need for steps that are required for
 non-Debian tetex users, but what steps?
 Where can I find help that is
 specific to the Debian package? Where can I just find documentation that
 has been edited to reflect Debian package reality?
 
 Please give pointers to the real Debian stuff.

please give information on how the ctan stuff differs from the debian
directory or conf file layout, most of the time, Debian is *very*
conforming to this kind of stuff (yeah, how precise is this !)

BTW, there is a simple series of steps to do a single user install of
any .sty file :
- create a ~/texmf/tex dir
- put you newsletr.sty file into it
- run texhash

enjoy

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Re: Postfix-TLS - CA auto-signé

Bonjour,

 Si le certificat de ton CA n'est pas lui meme signé par une autorité de
certification reconnue de base par Windows (genre Verisign), tu va avoir
un warning car aucune confiance ne lui est accordée. Pour l'éviter il
faut installer le certificat de ton CA dans windows et lui donner un
niveau de confiance suffisant avant d'accéder au serveur SMTP.

Cdt,

Aurelien

 Bonjour,
 Je suis entrain de travailler sur le support TLS pour postfix sur un
 système (Debian-Sarge).
 J'ai créer une autorité de certification racine auto-signé, puis le
 certificat pour postfix validé et signé par le CA. Tout semble
 parfaitement fonctionné... le client de messagerie (outlook)  indique
 simplement lors de la première requête que le serveur est en mode
 sécurisé mais que le certificat n'a pas été validé par une autorité
 reconnue... Il suffit d'accepter le certificat pour que le client le
 prenne en compte les prochaine fois...rien là d'extraordinaire... sinon
 qu'au niveau du log /var/mail/mail.info ... apparaissent certaines
 erreurs au cours de chaque transaction entre client et le serveur 
 que je ne m'explique pas!!! Est-ce lié au CA auto-signé? où autre
 chose? Quel est la solution pour que ce soit clean...

 Voici le log (extrait) en question:

 setting up TLS connection from unknown[10.0.1.2]
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:before/accept
 initialization
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C568] (11 bytes = -1 (0x))
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:error in
 SSLv2/v3 read client hello A
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C568] (11 bytes = 11 (0xB))
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]:  16 03 01 00 57 01 00
 00|53 03 01 W... S..
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C573] (81 bytes = -1 (0x))
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:error in SSLv3
 read client hello B
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:error in SSLv3
 read client hello B
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C573] (81 bytes = 81 (0x51))
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]:  41 e9 89 7f e4 ca ae
 ec|30 fe 11 08 17 af 01 5a  A... 0..Z
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: 0010 1b 9f 5b 35 0f cf d7
 96|74 3b fd 39 a3 b8 c0 dc  ..[5 t;.9
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: 0020 00 00 2c 00 05 00 04
 00|0a ff 83 00 09 ff 82 00  ..,. 
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: 0030 03 00 08 00 06 ff 80
 00|01 00 16 00 15 00 14 00   
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: 0040 13 00 12 00 11 00 18
 00|1b 00 1a 00 17 00 19 01   
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: 0051 - SPACES/NULS?
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:SSLv3 read
 client hello B
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:SSLv3 write
 server hello A
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:SSLv3 write
 certificate A
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:SSLv3 write
 server done A
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: write to 100703E8
 [10084D78] (820 bytes = 820 (0x334))
 ...

 SSL_accept:SSLv3 flush data
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C568] (5 bytes = -1 (0x))
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:error in SSLv3
 read client certificate A
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C568] (5 bytes = 5 (0x5))
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]:  16 03 01 00 86
 .
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C56D] (134 bytes = -1 (0x))
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:error in SSLv3
 read client certificate A
 ...
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:SSLv3 read
 client key exchange A
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C568] (5 bytes = -1 (0x))
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:error in SSLv3
 read certificate verify A
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C568] (5 bytes = 5 (0x5))
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]:  14 03 01 00 01
 .
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C56D] (1 bytes = -1 (0x))
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:error in SSLv3
 read certificate verify A
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C56D] (1 bytes = 1 (0x1))
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]:  01 .
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C568] (5 bytes = -1 (0x))
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:error in SSLv3
 read certificate verify A
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C568] (5 bytes = 5

Re: LDAP said: Internal (implementation specific) error o_0 ?

'jour

Quelle versions de opendap utilises tu? et utilises tu le backend bdb?


Aurelien


 J'utilise une deb en PDC avec slapd/nfspam/samba depuis une petite
 année maintenant pour un réseau nux/win mélangé.

 Après 1 mois d'absence du bureau (déconseillé) je retrouve mes debian
 toutes cassées. J'apt-get à tout bout de champ pour rétablir la
 situation et je découvre que mon slapd et dans la choucroute sans
 trouver la moindre explication :-/ :

 Que j'utilise phpldapadmin ou ldap-account-manager impossible de
 modifier la moindre ligne de mon annuaire :/ Sa bloque de partout avec
 l'éternel message :

 LDAP said: Internal (implementation specific) error
 Numéro de l'erreur: 0x50 (LDAP_OTHER)

 Sur toutes les deb installés, sudo ne reconnait plus les comptes
 autorisés ... et le windows refuse carrément de s'authentifier sur le
 domaine.

 Une id ? moi je sèche depuis 2 jours :(


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Re: Postfix-TLS - CA auto-signé

Bonjour,

 Si le certificat de ton CA n'est pas lui meme signé par une autorité de
certification reconnue de base par Windows (genre Verisign), tu va avoir
un warning car aucune confiance ne lui est accordée. Pour l'éviter il
faut installer le certificat de ton CA dans windows et lui donner un
niveau de confiance suffisant avant d'accéder au serveur SMTP.

Cdt,

Aurelien

 Bonjour,
 Je suis entrain de travailler sur le support TLS pour postfix sur un
 système (Debian-Sarge).
 J'ai créer une autorité de certification racine auto-signé, puis le
 certificat pour postfix validé et signé par le CA. Tout semble
 parfaitement fonctionné... le client de messagerie (outlook)  indique
 simplement lors de la première requête que le serveur est en mode
 sécurisé mais que le certificat n'a pas été validé par une autorité
 reconnue... Il suffit d'accepter le certificat pour que le client le
 prenne en compte les prochaine fois...rien là d'extraordinaire... sinon
 qu'au niveau du log /var/mail/mail.info ... apparaissent certaines
 erreurs au cours de chaque transaction entre client et le serveur 
 que je ne m'explique pas!!! Est-ce lié au CA auto-signé? où autre
 chose? Quel est la solution pour que ce soit clean...

 Voici le log (extrait) en question:

 setting up TLS connection from unknown[10.0.1.2]
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:before/accept
 initialization
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C568] (11 bytes = -1 (0x))
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:error in
 SSLv2/v3 read client hello A
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C568] (11 bytes = 11 (0xB))
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]:  16 03 01 00 57 01 00
 00|53 03 01 W... S..
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C573] (81 bytes = -1 (0x))
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:error in SSLv3
 read client hello B
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:error in SSLv3
 read client hello B
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C573] (81 bytes = 81 (0x51))
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]:  41 e9 89 7f e4 ca ae
 ec|30 fe 11 08 17 af 01 5a  A... 0..Z
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: 0010 1b 9f 5b 35 0f cf d7
 96|74 3b fd 39 a3 b8 c0 dc  ..[5 t;.9
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: 0020 00 00 2c 00 05 00 04
 00|0a ff 83 00 09 ff 82 00  ..,. 
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: 0030 03 00 08 00 06 ff 80
 00|01 00 16 00 15 00 14 00   
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: 0040 13 00 12 00 11 00 18
 00|1b 00 1a 00 17 00 19 01   
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: 0051 - SPACES/NULS?
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:SSLv3 read
 client hello B
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:SSLv3 write
 server hello A
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:SSLv3 write
 certificate A
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:SSLv3 write
 server done A
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: write to 100703E8
 [10084D78] (820 bytes = 820 (0x334))
 ...

 SSL_accept:SSLv3 flush data
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C568] (5 bytes = -1 (0x))
 Jan 15 22:22:08 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:error in SSLv3
 read client certificate A
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C568] (5 bytes = 5 (0x5))
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]:  16 03 01 00 86
 .
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C56D] (134 bytes = -1 (0x))
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:error in SSLv3
 read client certificate A
 ...
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:SSLv3 read
 client key exchange A
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C568] (5 bytes = -1 (0x))
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:error in SSLv3
 read certificate verify A
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C568] (5 bytes = 5 (0x5))
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]:  14 03 01 00 01
 .
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C56D] (1 bytes = -1 (0x))
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:error in SSLv3
 read certificate verify A
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C56D] (1 bytes = 1 (0x1))
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]:  01 .
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C568] (5 bytes = -1 (0x))
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: SSL_accept:error in SSLv3
 read certificate verify A
 Jan 15 22:22:09 Orpheus postfix/smtpd[938]: read from 100703E8
 [1007C568] (5 bytes = 5

Re: LDAP said: Internal (implementation specific) error o_0 ?