domain bandwidth tracking

[Brian Clark]

Hi there,

I'm looking for something which can report total bandwidth usage for a
single domain on a shared Debian server. Any suggestions?

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Re: key bind paste from ?

[Brian Clark]

On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 06:59:48PM -0500, Andrew Cady wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 06:42:04PM -0500, Brian Clark wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 01:23:11AM -0500, Andrew Cady wrote:

[...]

> > > You may want to look into the package 'screen'.  OTOH, it may be
> > > overkill.

> > I'm familiar with screen; are you talking about binding keys? In
> > that case wouldn't the password have to reside on the remote host
> > instead of here locally?

> The password would be wherever you chose to run screen.  Run screen
> locally, connect to remote host within screen, and you're good.

Hi, Andrew. Whoops, that was silly of me. :) Ah, of course that should
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Re: key bind paste from ?

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On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 09:31:41PM -0500, cga wrote:

> Brian Clark wrote:

> >On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 01:23:11AM -0500, Andrew Cady wrote:

> >>On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 05:31:12PM -0500, Brian Clark wrote:

> >>>What I decided to look for, without success, is a way to press a
> >>>key sequence and it have it paste a password at the current cursor
> >>>position in my aterm when connected to a remote host.

> >>>Is there something that will do this?

> If you are running bash in your aterm:

> $ bind '"^[[24~":"passwd^M"'

> will bind the sequence of keys:

> p+a+s+s+w+d+

> ...to function key F12

> Is that what you want to do..??  

Hi there! That doesn't seem to work for me. I realize ^M should be
entered as Ctrl+V, Ctrl+M. What about ^[[24~?

~$ echo $SHELL
/bin/bash
~$ bind '"^[[24~":"passwd^M"'

(I press F12 and I get..)

~$ 4~

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Re: key bind paste from ?

[Brian Clark]

On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 01:23:11AM -0500, Andrew Cady wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 05:31:12PM -0500, Brian Clark wrote:

> > What I decided to look for, without success, is a way to press a
> > key sequence and it have it paste a password at the current cursor
> > position in my aterm when connected to a remote host.

> > Is there something that will do this?

> You may want to look into the package 'screen'.  OTOH, it may be
> overkill.

I'm familiar with screen; are you talking about binding keys? In
that case wouldn't the password have to reside on the remote host
instead of here locally?

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Re: OpenOffice GTK Gnome

[Brian Clark]

On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 10:13:32PM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote:

> Linas Zvirblis wrote:
> > It is possible that I overlooked something while debugging OpenOffice, 
> > but I am pretty sure this _is_ a bug. Feel free to report it, otherwise 
> > I will do it.

> It's not.

> GNOME -> GTK UI
> KDE -> KDE UI
> Rest -> normal UI unless forced.

> That even is said in the appropriate packages' descriptions.

> (Exceptions prove the rule)

> Don't file a bug with that.


Hi Rene, et al. 

I'm a bit late replying, I apologize.

It does seem to be a bug, sure. I fall into the "rest" category, and I
have this:

~$ cat /etc/openoffice/openoffice.org 
export OO_FORCE_DESKTOP=Gnome

My OpenOffice.org doesn't seem to pick up on the above, and it doesn't
use the GTK widgets. Instead it uses the normal UI.

Your description is accurate, and my experiences with the documentation
seems to suggest I'm seeing a bug.

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key bind paste from ?

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Hi there,

This may be a strange request. What I decided to look for, without
success, is a way to press a key sequence and it have it paste a
password at the current cursor position in my aterm when connected to a
remote host. My window environment is OpenBox. A shell alias on the
remote host is out of the question, and I'm not concerned with possible
/local/ security problems.

Is there something that will do this?

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Re: OpenOffice GTK Gnome

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On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 09:14:12PM +0200, Linas Zvirblis wrote:

> Brian Clark wrote:

> >After upgrading to OpenOffice.org 2.0 in testing, it doesn't seem to
> >pick up and use GTK widgets, themes, et cetera, unless I run it from a
> >shell (see below).

> >I have this:

> >~$ cat /etc/openoffice/openoffice.org 
> >export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=Gnome

> >(I've also tried `export OO_FORCE_DESKTOP=Gnome' in that file)

> >When I issue export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=Gnome in a shell, then launch
> >oowriter &, it picks up the GTK look correctly.

> >And I'm using Openbox as my window manager. In OO.org 1.1 it worked as
> >expected.

> Just put "export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome" in ".xsession" in your home 
> directory and restart X.

Hi there, Linas.

Yes, although it will work, surely that isn't the best solution.
Unless I've done something else wrong, I'm starting to think it's a bug.

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OpenOffice GTK Gnome

[Brian Clark]

Hello,

After upgrading to OpenOffice.org 2.0 in testing, it doesn't seem to
pick up and use GTK widgets, themes, et cetera, unless I run it from a
shell (see below).

I have this:

~$ cat /etc/openoffice/openoffice.org 
export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=Gnome

(I've also tried `export OO_FORCE_DESKTOP=Gnome' in that file)

When I issue export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=Gnome in a shell, then launch
oowriter &, it picks up the GTK look correctly.

And I'm using Openbox as my window manager. In OO.org 1.1 it worked as
expected.

~$ dpkg -l | grep openoffice | grep ^ii
ii  openoffice.org  2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0
ii  openoffice.org-base 2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite - database
ii  openoffice.org-calc 2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite - spreadsheet
ii  openoffice.org-common   2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite architecture 
independent files
ii  openoffice.org-core 2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite architecture 
dependent files
ii  openoffice.org-draw 2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite - drawing
ii  openoffice.org-gnome2.0.0-5  GNOME Integration for OpenOffice.org 
(Widgets, Dialogs, VFS, G
ii  openoffice.org-gtk-gnom 2.0.0-5  Transitional package to 
openoffice.org-gnome
ii  openoffice.org-impress  2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite - presentation
ii  openoffice.org-java-com 2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite Java support 
arch. independent fil
ii  openoffice.org-l10n-en- 2.0.0-5  English_american language package for 
OpenOffice.org
ii  openoffice.org-math 2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite - equation 
editor
ii  openoffice.org-writer   2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite - word 
processor

`strace oowriter 2>&1 | grep -i gtk` and `strace oowriter 2>&1 | grep -i
gnome` gave me nothing.

Should I file a bug, or an I missing some key ingredient?

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Re: OpenOffice.org HUGE fonts, ugly UI

[Brian Clark]

On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 09:53:43PM -0500, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:

> Brian Clark wrote:

> >Hi Debian users,

> >I just upgraded my testing's OpenOffice.org, and the user interface
> >fonts are huge. My wild guess says maybe 24 point. In addition to that,
> >I now see a super ugly silvery user interface which doesn't look like my
> >currently configured GTK 1 or 2 themes. 

> >~$ dpkg -l | grep openoffice
> >ii  openoffice.org  2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org Office suite 
> >version 2.0
> >ii  openoffice.org-base 2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite - 
> >database
> >ii  openoffice.org-calc 2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite - 
> >spreadsheet
> >ii  openoffice.org-common   2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite 
> >architecture independent files
> >ii  openoffice.org-core 2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite 
> >architecture dependent files
> >ii  openoffice.org-draw 2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite - 
> >drawing
> >ii  openoffice.org-gnome2.0.0-5  GNOME Integration for 
> >OpenOffice.org (Widgets, Dialogs, VFS, G
> >ii  openoffice.org-gtk-gnom 2.0.0-5  Transitional package to 
> >openoffice.org-gnome
> >ii  openoffice.org-impress  2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite - 
> >presentation
> >ii  openoffice.org-java-com 2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite Java 
> >support arch. independent fil
> >ii  openoffice.org-l10n-en- 2.0.0-5  English_american language package 
> >for OpenOffice.org
> >ii  openoffice.org-math 2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite - 
> >equation editor
> >ii  openoffice.org-writer   2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite - 
> >word processor

> >Does anyone have any idea where to begin to fix this? 

> >Thanks for reading!

> Did you try moving the old .openoffice* to some other directory and 
> restarting openoffice again?

Hi raju,

Just tried that, and it did not change. Thanks for the suggestion.

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OpenOffice.org HUGE fonts, ugly UI

[Brian Clark]

Hi Debian users,

I just upgraded my testing's OpenOffice.org, and the user interface
fonts are huge. My wild guess says maybe 24 point. In addition to that,
I now see a super ugly silvery user interface which doesn't look like my
currently configured GTK 1 or 2 themes. 

~$ dpkg -l | grep openoffice
ii  openoffice.org  2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0
ii  openoffice.org-base 2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite - database
ii  openoffice.org-calc 2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite - 
spreadsheet
ii  openoffice.org-common   2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite 
architecture independent files
ii  openoffice.org-core 2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite 
architecture dependent files
ii  openoffice.org-draw 2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite - drawing
ii  openoffice.org-gnome2.0.0-5  GNOME Integration for OpenOffice.org 
(Widgets, Dialogs, VFS, G
ii  openoffice.org-gtk-gnom 2.0.0-5  Transitional package to 
openoffice.org-gnome
ii  openoffice.org-impress  2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite - 
presentation
ii  openoffice.org-java-com 2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite Java 
support arch. independent fil
ii  openoffice.org-l10n-en- 2.0.0-5  English_american language package for 
OpenOffice.org
ii  openoffice.org-math 2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite - equation 
editor
ii  openoffice.org-writer   2.0.0-5  OpenOffice.org office suite - word 
processor

Does anyone have any idea where to begin to fix this? 

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Re: firewire, reboot, /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device

[Brian Clark]

Hi there!

On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 02:27:54AM -0500, Bill Marcum wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 01:34:39PM -0500, Brian Clark wrote:
> > Hi Debian users,

> > My workstation's inputs (keyboard and mouse) froze today for the second
> > time in 6 years and I had to hit the reset button.

> > Everything came back up fine (thanks, journaling!) but when I try to
> > mount my external firewire drive which I use for backup, I get this:

> [snip]

> > Can someone put me on the path to getting this fixed?

> > Thanks for reading! 

> I don't know much about firewire, but how long have you had that drive?
> And by the way, how long have you had the drive(s) that it backs up?

I should have followed up to the list when I fixed this. I'm doing so
now. It turns out that I was following a lead from Mike McCarthy to run
fsck, and I booted into single user mode where I happened to try to
mount it before running fsck. After some ext3 journalling messages, the
drive mounted. Everything appears to be fine now. Odd, but its working
fine.

I've had the drive and external enclosure for about 4 or 5 months
or so. I use rsnapshot to do the backups. Since this will be in the
archives, I happen to use an external enclosure, with Firewire / USB
2.0 capabilities, made by AMS. The model is Venus DS-2316CBK. And I'm
using the 2.6 kernel.

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firewire, reboot, /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device

[Brian Clark]

Hi Debian users,

My workstation's inputs (keyboard and mouse) froze today for the second
time in 6 years and I had to hit the reset button.

Everything came back up fine (thanks, journaling!) but when I try to
mount my external firewire drive which I use for backup, I get this:

~# mount /fwbackup
mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device

~# grep fwbackup /etc/fstab
/dev/sda1   /fwbackup   ext3rw,user,noauto  0   0

I've unplugged the firewire cable and plugged it back in, in hopes I
would see it be detected and 'enabled' in /var/log/messages or the
kern.log, but I only see this in kern.log:

Dec 20 13:14:53 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Node changed: 0-01:1023 -> 0-00:1023
Dec 20 13:14:53 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Node suspended: ID:BUS[0-00:1023]  
GUID[0030e0f4e020dab7]
Dec 20 13:14:56 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Node changed: 0-00:1023 -> 0-01:1023
Dec 20 13:14:56 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Node resumed: ID:BUS[0-01:1023]  
GUID[0030e0f4e020dab7]
Dec 20 13:14:56 localhost kernel: ieee1394: The root node is not cycle master 
capable; selecting a new root node and resetting...
Dec 20 13:14:56 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Node changed: 0-01:1023 -> 0-00:1023
Dec 20 13:14:56 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Node changed: 0-00:1023 -> 0-01:1023

And `mount /fwbackup` still doesn't like it.

Can someone put me on the path to getting this fixed?

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Re: Apache Not Serving Up Documents

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* Joseph A Nagy Jr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Mar 11. 2003 09:44]:

> Nicolas Kratz wrote:

> >On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 11:24:20PM -0600, Joseph A Nagy Jr wrote:

> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet jan-jr-ent.homelinux.org 80
> >>Trying 24.158.191.171...
> >>telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

> >I assume you and the web server are behind a masquerading router.
> >If that is the case, trying to access the outside IP of the router will
> >fail, because the forwarding rules will not be triggered. Except you
> >have take precautions in this regard, of course.

..snip..

> That remins me! Whenever I first set up the network (e.g.
> /etc/init.d/networking restart (and on subsequent reboot)), Debian
> said it was setting up IP Masquerading.

What do you get from these (in order)?

  /etc/init.d/ipmasq stop
  iptables -L
  telnet localhost 80

Whew - in any case, start here: 

  lynx /usr/doc/ipmasq/ipmasq.html/index.html

Do you have NAT/pf running on the (DSL?) router in addition to
ipmasq/ip(tables|chains) on one of your machines? 

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Re: Apache Not Serving Up Documents

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* Joseph A Nagy Jr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Mar 11. 2003 00:41]:

> Brian Clark wrote:

> >telnet jan-jr-ent.homelinux.org 80

..snip..

> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet jan-jr-ent.homelinux.org 80
> Trying 24.158.191.171...
> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

What happens when you try to access it from that machine
(24.158.191.171)?

Try the same thing using 127.0.0.1 and see if you still get Connection
refused.

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Re: Apache Not Serving Up Documents

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* Joseph A Nagy Jr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Mar 11. 2003 00:01]:

> I have triple checked my router.

> Well, what info do you need? I installed Apache via apt-get, keep all
> my documents in /www (/dev/hdb1). I chowned -R janjrent.www-data /www
> and chown -R www-data.www-data /www

> Other then this, I don't know what else to give you guys. :(

In xterm/aterm/any-term:

telnet jan-jr-ent.homelinux.org 80

After:

Escape character is '^]'.

Type:

GET / HTTP/1.1
Host: jan-jr-ent.homelinux.org

Then hit enter twice. It may indicate what the problem is (if you can
even connect).

Use Ctrl+] to close the connection. Type quit to exit telnet.

Post the output of the session here.

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Re: Newbie questions

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* John ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Mar 10. 2003 09:48]:

> Anyone tell me how to make the default editor of most to nano? Most is
> using vi at the moment. & I'm not sure where to change it. my default
> editor is:

..snip..

> I also tried:
> # MOST_EDITOR='nano %s'
> and
> # SLANG_EDITOR="nano %s" #not sure re: quotes vs tick marks
>   I tried both ways.

Is that exactly what you're using at the bash(?) prompt? If so, that
won't work. 

Try export:

  export MOST_EDITOR="nano %s" SLANG_EDITOR="nano %s"

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Re: Newbie questions

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* Kent West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Mar 10. 2003 00:44]:

> Amen! most is more than less! Cool.

It's more or less the most you can get out of a pager.

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Re: Newbie questions

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* Colin Watson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Mar 09. 2003 15:40]:

> On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 08:43:24PM +0100, Inge Thorin Eidsaether wrote:

> > 3 - How do I go backwards in a man page reading? Looks like 'more'
> > is used to page the ouput to screen, but 'b' or ^B does not work
> > here. Silly question, maybe...

> 'more' can't go back when reading from standard input. Try installing
> 'less' instead; it's a better pager in other ways anyway.

Now would be a great to mention update-alternatives too. :-)

update-alternatives(8) (when you get man working)

(~)% update-alternatives --config pager

There are 3 programs which provide `pager'.

  SelectionCommand
---
  1/bin/more
*+2/usr/bin/less
  3    /usr/bin/w3m

Enter to keep the default[*], or type selection number: 

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Re: XMMS and CD Audio Broken

[Brian Clark]

* Lonnie Sutton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Mar 08. 2003 21:28]:

> On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 03:05:25AM -0500, Brian Clark wrote:

> > Package: xmms-cdread
> > .
> > Description: Input plugin for XMMS that reads audio data from CDs
> > XMMS Input plugin which will read an audio CD as data and play it in
> > realtime. This allows XMMS to use an audio CD for visualization, and
> > also lets you play an audio cd from a drive which does not have an
> > audio cd cable connected.

> Brian,

Hi Lonnie.

> Thanks for your help. As you may have seen in my reply to Michael, I
> had *not* changed the audio cable from the defunct drive to the burner
> drive, as I should have. It is now done, and as I said, it works using
> the Gnome player, gtcd. However, still no joy using XMMS.

One small point of clarification:

(see output of `apt-cache show xmms-cdread', above.)

"This allows XMMS to use an audio CD for visualization, and also lets
you play an audio cd from a drive which does not have an audio cd cable
connected."

Just so you know, I have xmms playing CDs from a CD-ROM without an audio
cable connected to the sound card, so I can say for sure that it works
as advertised. :-) 

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Re: XMMS and CD Audio Broken

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* Michael Waters ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Mar 07. 2003 02:10]:

> Is the cd audio cable attached to the soundcard? :) 

Also, note the last line: 

Package: xmms-cdread
.
Description: Input plugin for XMMS that reads audio data from CDs
 XMMS Input plugin which will read an audio CD as data and play it in
 realtime. This allows XMMS to use an audio CD for visualization, and
 also lets you play an audio cd from a drive which does not have an
 audio cd cable connected.

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Re: must.. surpress ... murderous rage.... (simple boot floppy qveshtion)

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* Victor Stan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Mar 06. 2003 13:52]:

> Actually I WANT something that only does one thing with no options
> whatsoever, as long as it boots my new kernel that is all I care.

If you don't mind using syslinux, something along the lines of:

fdformat /dev/fd0
mkfs -t msdos /dev/fd0
(you might need mtools to get mkfs.msdos)
mkdir /floppy
mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy
cp /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.20 /floppy/linux
echo 'TIMEOUT 40' >> /floppy/syslinux.cfg
echo 'PROMPT 1' >> /floppy/syslinux.cfg
echo 'DEFAULT linux' >> /floppy/syslinux.cfg
echo 'APPEND root=/dev/hda7 ro' >> /floppy/syslinux.cfg
umount /floppy
syslinux /dev/fd0
reboot


YMMV (= man syslinux)

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Re: Debian SCSI HD Install Failing

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* nate ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Mar 05. 2003 15:27]:

> try the compact kernel it's on the debian 3.0 install CD. view the
> help in the boot loader to figure out how to load it. Last I checked
> the stock kernel did not support adaptec SCSI cards w/o loading
> modules. Not certain why I can only assume that the adaptec scsi
> driver can interfere with other drivers(I've read in the past that it
> did) so they took it out for that particular kernel.

If they did, it was likely to have been somewhere between frozen/testing
woody and woody's release. I installed fresh in 2002 using floppies,
and the default 2.2 kernel supported my aic7890 perfectly. I'm running
2.4.18 currently:

scsi0 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 6.2.4

aic7890/91: Ultra2 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs

  Vendor: SEAGATE   Model: ST39102LW Rev: 0005
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
(scsi0:A:0): 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit)
  Vendor: SEAGATE   Model: ST39173LW Rev: 6246
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
(scsi0:A:1): 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit)
scsi0:A:0:0: Tagged Queuing enabled.  Depth 253
scsi0:A:1:0: Tagged Queuing enabled.  Depth 253
scsi1 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Attached scsi disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0

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Re: Blank Messages To Mailing List With Attachments Containing Message

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* Craig Dickson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Feb 20. 2002 19:01]:

> > Its free.

> So are a number of others. TheBat!, for one. I haven't used it myself
> but I've heard a lot of good things about it.

No, TheBat! is not free. It's well worth the $35 bucks, however, if
you're a Windows user.

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Re: spamassassin. CAREFUL ON UPGRADE

[Brian Clark]

* dman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Feb 16. 2002 14:30]:

> On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 08:13:48AM -0800, Cam Ellison wrote:
> | * Brian Clark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> | > 
> | > What version are you using? I'm running 2.01.
> |
> | So am I.  

> Wrong file, then.  Put your config in /etc/spamassassin/local.cf for
> version 2.01.  (/etc/spamassassin.prefs was a template for creating
> user configs in version 1.5)

I didn't know that, either.

That's exactly what I meant earlier in this thread about the
spamassassin configs being swapped around.

I am using /etc/spamassassin/local.cf and I do have
/etc/spamassassin.prefs, but required_hits is set in spamassassin.prefs
and just about everything else is set in local.cf. Seems to get
confusing when you're trying to figure out where everything should go (I
guess that happened to Cam also).

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Re: Mouse Jumps Sometimes

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* David Frey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Feb 15. 2002 19:48]:

> Yeah, I was running gpm. I'm going to kill it right now and fire up UT
> for some "testing" ;-)

Not trying to be a party pooper , but I'm not running gpm and I
still get it. I hope yours turns out better than mine.

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Re: spamassassin. CAREFUL ON UPGRADE

[Brian Clark]

* Cam Ellison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Feb 15. 2002 18:59]:

> > [Hey Cam, you're not wrapping at 72, AFAICS. ]

> I'm using emacs, which is supposed to be wrapping at 70.  At least, it tries 
> to assure me of this every time I fire it up.  :-P

Surely I'm not the only one seeing the above as a single line? Your
messages aren't wrapped at 70 over here.

> > I'm not using spamd, I'm firing off spamassassin with Procmail. But,
> > I'm setting required_hits in /etc/spamassassin.prefs

> I've got it set to 7 there, too. I'm not sure what's going on. I'd
> hate to have to remove it, because it is catching a lot of stuff.

What version are you using? I'm running 2.01.

Have you tired running spamassassin with the -p switch to specifiy your
prefs file to see if it picks that up correctly? 

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Re: Mouse Jumps Sometimes

[Brian Clark]

* David Frey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Feb 15. 2002 18:30]:

> My mouse (a logitech optical wheel mouse) has one problem. Every once
> in a while, the cursor will "go crazy" and shoot into one of the
> corners of the screen. It returns to normal after a few seconds. This
> is *REALLY* annoying when I'm playing Unreal Tournament because all of
> a sudden I'm staring at a spinning ceiling :-)

I have no solution, but this seems to be a problem with all optical
mice. I'm using an MS Explorer and frequently I see blackbox menus
appear in any corner of my screen at least once a day. Extremely
annoying.

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Re: spamassassin. CAREFUL ON UPGRADE

[Brian Clark]

* Cam Ellison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Feb 15. 2002 13:43]:

> * Brian Clark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> > Hey, that's nifty. I adjusted some of my scoring and I only get one
> > or two that find their way through, but I'll surely zip those off to
> > that address.

[Hey Cam, you're not wrapping at 72, AFAICS. ]

> Speaking of adjusting scoring, I have tried to raise required_hits,
> with no success. When spamassassin reports spam, it still shows this
> as 5, instead of the 7 that every file I can find is set at. I'm using
> spamd with exim, if that makes any difference.

I'm not using spamd, I'm firing off spamassassin with Procmail. But, I'm
setting required_hits in /etc/spamassassin.prefs

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Re: spamassassin. CAREFUL ON UPGRADE

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* dman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Feb 12. 2002 15:52]:

[...]

> | But, FWIW, I ran into the same problem with spamassassin and had to
> | move my old .cf to /etc/spamassassin/local.cf and it seemed to go
> | OK. (This was a few days ago.)

> This should have happened automatically.  It worked for me, but YMMV.

The output from dpkg let me know that my original config was renamed to
60_spamassassin.cf (something like that) and, IIRC, said something about
moving that file to local.cf, but I don't remember the exact wording.

I noticed after the upgrade no spam was caught. :-\ Everything is A-OK
now, it appears.

> | Also, the scoring /seemed/ to be a little less agressive.

> The scoring is different.  It is an attempt to reduce the false
> positives, but introduced some false negatives as a side effect.
> (also the spamphrases and auto-whitelist don't work right, they're
> going to be fixed in the next release).  If you find spam that didn't
> get flagged by SA, bounce it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> This will add it to the corpus that the scores are based on.  The
> scores are constantly evolving based on current spammer practice.

Hey, that's nifty. I adjusted some of my scoring and I only get one or
two that find their way through, but I'll surely zip those off to that
address. 

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Re: spamassassin. CAREFUL ON UPGRADE

[Brian Clark]

* martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Feb 12. 2002 03:04]:

> spamassassin has been restructured and updated. if you decide to
> update your system, be sure to test thoroughly. it will *not* work out
> of the box in all cases.

I don't get this new structure woody's starting to use with some
configuration files being moved to /etc/default.. I was satisfied with
everything(?) being stuffed in /etc/{package}.

But, FWIW, I ran into the same problem with spamassassin and had to move
my old .cf to /etc/spamassassin/local.cf and it seemed to go OK. (This
was a few days ago.)

Also, the scoring /seemed/ to be a little less agressive.

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Re: How can I install galeon?

[Brian Clark]

* MH ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Feb 09. 2002 16:23]:

[...]

> Brian> Just be sure to change your sources.list back to testing
> Brian> when you're done. ;-)

> There are some more elegant ways in apt now.

> Check man apt-get (-t) and man apt_preferences, though I'm not using
> this options (unstable forever ;-)

Ah, Ray just pointed that out also. That's a pretty nice feature, and it
looks like I have some reading to do. :-)

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Re: How can I install galeon?

[Brian Clark]

* stan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Feb 09. 2002 14:49]:

> How can I install galeon?

I change my sources.list to point to unstable, then apt-get update, then
apt-get -u install galeon. I haven't had any problems what so ever.

Just be sure to change your sources.list back to testing when you're
done. ;-)

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Re: W32/Myparty

[Brian Clark]

* Chris Mueller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Feb 01. 2002 03:20]:

[...]

> For your own advantage you should close Outlook - for ever. And switch
> to Eudora. Under Win oder Mac.

Or TheBat! (cheaper and more of a power users' Winblows MUA.)

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Re: W32/Myparty

[Brian Clark]

* Jeremy L. Gaddis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Feb 01. 2002 00:13]:

[...]

> On the same note, I run Windows on my desktop machines because, at
> this time, Linux, IMO, sucks ass as far as desktops go.

Let the worms runneth over.

On your mark, get set, go!

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Re: Mailing list recomendation

[Brian Clark]

* Erik van der Meulen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 31. 2002 04:54]:

[...]

> Thanks for the recommendations! I have installed mailman and it seems
> to work well. I do have this little problem with the entry it left in
> /etc/cron.d I think that I activated it by editing (is that possible)
> and since that happened, I have received errors in the root mail of
> this nature:

I have no idea what's causing your problems, but if you don't get an
answer on-list or off-list, you could try installing it from the source
tarball at <http://www.list.org/>. That's what I've always done (one of
those rare cases).

Martin mentioned that you shouldn't use the potato version. Is that
the one you installed? If so, you may want to remove it, update your
sources.list to point to testing and grab it from there instead.

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Re: Mailing list recomendation

[Brian Clark]

* Erik van der Meulen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 30. 2002 14:44]:

[...]

> - sympa
> - mailman
> - fml
> - smartlist
> - listar

I would go with Mailman. It's served me well for many lists. 

> I would welcome recomendations for the one that would suit my needs
> best. Ease of installation, configuration and maintenance is imprtant
> to me too.

The configuration and maintenance is all done with a web interface
(which happens to be very nice, IMO).

I haven't had a single problem the entire time I've been using it
(couple of years).

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Re: newbie question

[Brian Clark]

* Jason Majors ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 23. 2002 19:28]:

[...]

> Or remove the link to it in /etc/rc2.d/SXXgdm (where XX is some
> number, probably 90 or 99). The last option will keep it from
> starting, without removing it from your system (in case you want it
> later).

FYI, there is a tool for this. Check out update-rc.d:

(~)% man -k update-rc.d
update-rc.d (8) - install and remove System-V style init script links

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Re: apropos does nothing

[Brian Clark]

* Jeffrey W. Baker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 21. 2002 23:30]:

> Okay fine.  But on slackware I can do 'man -K pthread' and get every
> manual page on the whole system that mentions pthread.  What is the
> equivalent funtion on Debian?

If you _have_ to have `apropos` why not just alias `man -k` to `apropos`
in your shell's rc?

I missed the rest of the thread, but on my woody setup apropos is just
skippy:

(~)% apropos apropos
apropos (1)  - search the manual page names and descriptions
(~)%

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Re: Linux ICQ client that doesn't suck?

[Brian Clark]

* Benjamin Sommerfeld ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 18. 2002 02:59]:

> The only possability to use ICQ these days in Linux is by using a ICQ
> Java applet on the ICQ page. http://lite.icq.com

> They changed the protocol in their new Windows Client so none of the
> old clients is usable and there's no open source implementation of the
> new protocol out yet, so there can be no usable Linux Client to this
> day.

Some Linux clients *do* work with the new/changed protocol. I know
centericq 4.5.x does, at least. I haven't had any problems with it, but
I did have problems with others (like Licq). 

See: 

`ICQ Development with the ickle Library'
<http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/359/> 

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Re: Linux ICQ client that doesn't suck?

[Brian Clark]

* dman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 18. 2002 00:12]:

> On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 07:51:58PM -0800, Mark Ferlatte wrote:

> | I never understood the appeal of an IM, other than it tells you if
> | someone's online.  Email always seemed to be plenty fast enough, and a
> | lot easier to deal with.

[...]

> (FWIW UNIX had the first IM called 'talk', too bad I never see it used
> anymore (in fact, I can't get it to work at school))

How about kibitz? :-) I think it still comes packaged in the examples
directory with expect. If you need to carry on a conversation it's
pretty annoying, but it can be fun.

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Re: Linux ICQ client that doesn't suck?

[Brian Clark]

* David Gardi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 17. 2002 20:07]:

> Mark Ferlatte wrote:

> >Does anyone out there use ICQ under Debian? So far I've tried licq
> >and gaim with the ICQ plugin, and both of them have very annoying
> >problems (messages get lost, or messages from previous sessions get
> >delivered again on client startup... this is a problem when you have
> >20+ messages that come in everytime you start your ICQ client).

[...]

> I used to use centericq, it is a console app, and I think it's quite
> nice.

I have to second that. If you'd rather have a console type client,
centericq is really good. As of version 4.5.0, it "works" fine with the
changes over at AOL. IOW, you don't get the random-dropped-messages-
without-notification-thing going on.

If there isn't a .deb for 4.5.x, you should be able to build it from
source. That's what I did.

<http://freshmeat.net/projects/centericq/>

It's seems to be actively developed, and the author is a friendly guy.

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Re: perl and md5 crypt

[Brian Clark]

* john ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 13. 2002 21:51]:

> > > Isnt that how the man page says to do it?

> > Which man page?

> man 3 crypt

Ah, I took your statement to mean some perldoc stated "this is how
you generate md5 passwords with perl."

Thedore might need to install manpages-dev in that case.

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Re: perl and md5 crypt

[Brian Clark]

* john ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 13. 2002 21:10]:

> Brian Clark wrote:

[...]

> > ---[ perl ] 

> > for(0 .. 7) {
> >   $salt .= join '', ('.', '/', 0..9,'A'..'Z', 'a'..'z')[rand 64];
> > }

> > $password = crypt($password,'$1$' . $salt . '$');

> > 

> > I *think* that's how I did it once. It might actually work.

> Isnt that how the man page says to do it?

Which man page?

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Re: perl and md5 crypt

[Brian Clark]

* Thedore Knab ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 13. 2002 19:57]:

> How would I fix this to generate MD5 passwords ?

[...]

> It should look like this MD5 style:
> tester3:$1$sx6dzguz$IyKiUC3Ua2MCOFDZxppzk1:11701:0:9:7:::

Try this:

---[ perl ] 

for(0 .. 7) {
  $salt .= join '', ('.', '/', 0..9,'A'..'Z', 'a'..'z')[rand 64];
} 

$password = crypt($password,'$1$' . $salt . '$');

----

I *think* that's how I did it once. It might actually work.

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Re: Debian Lists, USENET & Spam

[Brian Clark]

* martin f krafft ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 07. 2002 04:16]:

> spamassassin is quite nice and *s* easy...

Except for this morning I woke to see a hundred emails filtered into my
spam folder by spamassasin after it was upgraded via apt yesterday.
Email from lists, people I know aren't in relays, etc.

Is spamassassin broken (latest version in woody)?

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Re: homedir listing and adding domain..

[Brian Clark]

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 03. 2002 06:56]:

> My problem: i have a homedir for around 800 users.I need to get all of
> them in a text file,each one on each line,with @domain.com after their
> username.. something like

> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ..

> how can i do that,with sed,or..

Are the users listed in /etc/passwd?

If you want to get interesting, for fun:

--8<-- all on one line -->8--

perl -F":" -ane 'print "[EMAIL PROTECTED]";' < /etc/passwd > ./addresses.txt

-->8--

Then you may want to take out root, bin, etc, from addresses.txt

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Re: Bring up ppp link on shell

[Brian Clark]

* Penguin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 02. 2002 18:25]:

> How do I bring a dialup PPP link with a shell? It's 
> `ifup ' or something? Is that all? 

I use pon after I've configured ppp with pppconfig.

man pppconfig pon

> How do I tell when the link is down if I have a shell 
> script for example downloading the latest Debian dist? 
> Can I poll/interrogate something which will tell me?

I check for the presence of LCK..ttyS1 in /var/lock

If it's not there, I'm not connected. My modem is on ttyS1, yours might
be different.

> Cheers
> James

Happy trails.

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Re: php postgres apache howto?

[Brian Clark]

* Lance Hoffmeyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 30. 2001 17:31]:

> Is there a Howto or docs on this subject?
> I have heard it is rather difficult to set
> this stuff up.

Not at all. Assuming you don't want to install this stuff with apt-get:

wget php 4.1.0, upack it into /usr/local/src
wget apache 1.3.22, unpack it into /usr/local/src
install postgres with apt-get or wget it and install it first.

This is very basic, but it should get it installed.

[tab] means literally hit tab, and assuming you do not have apache
already installed:

$ cd /usr/local/src/php[tab]
$ ./configure --with-apache=../apa[tab] --with-pgsql=/usr

(if you installed postgres from non-debian sources,
--with-pgsql=/usr/local)

$ su 
# make install
# exit
$ cd ../apache[tab]
$ ./configure \
--server-uid=www \
--server-gid=www \
--activate-module=src/modules/php4/libphp4.a
$ su 
# make install
# groupadd www
# useradd www
# exit

Then make sure the ouput of `/path/to/httpd -l' includes mod_php

If apache is already installed, replace --with-apache=/path in PHP's 
configure with --with-apxs (with no path) and `make install' for PHP
should install PHP as a shared module instead.

If you installed apache from non-debian source, use /etc/init.d/skeleton
to create your own rc script for it. Then use update-rc.d to install it. 

man 8 update-rc.d
 
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Re: sound blaster

[Brian Clark]

* Stephen Gran ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 27. 2001 11:11]:

> Just a thought - the soundblaster and soundblaster live! are different
> chipsets - the live! uses the emu10k1 and the others use the sb or
> any of a number of other modules.  If you're unsure about which
> version of soundblaster, try lspci - it'll be pretty clear about which
> one you have.

Yes, I'm quite positive it's an SB Live! (value) card.

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Re: sound blaster

[Brian Clark]

* Marcelo B. Bianchi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 26. 2001 21:04]:

> After the reboot try load the module, 

> modprobe emu10k1

I recentl;y had the same problem, but put it off for a while. This is
what I get (the same card, same module - but the creative sources):

% modprobe emu10k1
/lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/emu10k1.o: unresolved symbol mem_map_Rada6f066
/lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/emu10k1.o: unresolved symbol
__wake_up_R488028a0
/lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/emu10k1.o: unresolved symbol
interruptible_sleep_on_R0ca77f9d
/lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/emu10k1.o: unresolved symbol
register_sound_midi_Rfae787dd
/lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/emu10k1.o: unresolved symbol
register_sound_dsp_Rf393da98
/lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/emu10k1.o: unresolved symbol
__pollwait_R08b1d5fb
/lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/emu10k1.o: unresolved symbol
register_sound_mixer_Re7b6312f
/lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/emu10k1.o: Note: modules without a GPL
compatible license cannot use GPLONLY_ symbols
/lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/emu10k1.o: insmod
/lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/emu10k1.o failed
/lib/modules/2.2.19/misc/emu10k1.o: insmod emu10k1 failed

And that business about the GPL -- good grief! :))

I'm starting to think I'll never have my sanity return. These headphones
may get glued to my skull soon. ;)

Penny for your thoughts?

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Re: How do you map shell commands to keys in mutt ?

[Brian Clark]

* Karsten M. Self (kmself@ix.netcom.com) [Dec 26. 2001 15:04]:

> ## Bind ricochet spam response to 'S'
> macro index S "|/usr/local/bin/ricochet & \n"

Note, for some versions of Mutt, or some systems, or some planets, 
one may have to use , as in:

   ## Bind ricochet spam response to 'S'
   macro index S "/usr/local/bin/ricochet & \n"

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Re: where can I get standalone php4?

[Brian Clark]

* Patrick Hsieh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 24. 2001 03:37]:

> I have some standalone php4 scripts to run in cron. In the php4 source
> tarball, I can compile php4 executable. In Debian woody, what packages
> are required?

I did this a few weeks ago, but let's see..

I'm assuming you don't want to get the deb package, which is why you
have the tarball.

I'm thinking you'll need bison, flex, gcc, autoconf, automake,
autotools-dev.. I think that's it, unless you want freetype, gd, libpng,
etc. If you want those extras, you'll likely need the -dev versions as
well (for example, for libpng support you'll want libpng-dev).

If you want to install some extras, I can send you a download for my 
executable. I installed everything but php itself via apt. 

(~)% ldd `which php`
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4001e000)
libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x40022000)
libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/libcrypt.so.1 (0x40031000)
libresolv.so.2 => /lib/libresolv.so.2 (0x4005e000)
libpspell.so.4 => /usr/lib/libpspell.so.4 (0x4007)
libpspell-modules.so.1 => /usr/lib/libpspell-modules.so.1 (0x4008d000)
libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 => /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 
(0x4008f000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x400da000)
libmcrypt.so.4 => /usr/lib/libmcrypt.so.4 (0x401fd000)
libltdl.so.3 => /usr/lib/libltdl.so.3 (0x40202000)
libgd.so.1 => /usr/lib/libgd.so.1 (0x40208000)
libt1.so.1 => /usr/lib/libt1.so.1 (0x4023c000)
libttf.so.2 => /usr/lib/libttf.so.2 (0x40281000)
libpng.so.2 => /usr/lib/libpng.so.2 (0x402aa000)
libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x402d6000)
libbz2.so.1.0 => /usr/lib/libbz2.so.1.0 (0x402f5000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40305000)
libnsl.so.1 => /lib/libnsl.so.1 (0x40327000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x4033c000)
libXpm.so.4 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x40376000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x40384000)

I think I used gd, tiff, jpeg, png, zlib, t1lib, mysql (builtin), mcrypt, bz2p, 
pspell, aspell, xml, freetype.

(~)% ls -sh `which php`
3.2M /usr/local/bin/php

Bloat city. Probably more than you needed to know, but there it is. :-)

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Re: init

[Brian Clark]

* Miquel van Smoorenburg ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 23. 2001 13:15]:

> >I'm sure I missed this memo, but why is init suddenly showing in the 
> >process list as `init [2]   --init'? Ie., with the spaces and --init

> Hmm, haven't seen that. Might happen, some of that code was changed
> recently. Ignore it, it's a cosmetical bug.

LOL! :-) Mike, you may not realize it, but that sounds a lot like some
auto mechanics I've talked to. ;-))

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init

[Brian Clark]

I'm sure I missed this memo, but why is init suddenly showing in the 
process list as `init [2]   --init'? Ie., with the spaces and --init

This is on woody. My potato system isn't like this, so I was wondering
what has changed, if anything?

I'm hoping this is normal..

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Re: Problems wih starting X

[Brian Clark]

* Jens Kubieziel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 22. 2001 17:19]:

>  , [ from XFree86.0.log ] 
> |  VESA(0): no matching modes
> |  Screens found, but none have a usable configuration
>  `--

>  I tried also to work with xviddetect and XF86Setup both commands were
>  not found. If I'm using xf86config, I get the same problems as above.

>  Do you how I can fix it?

Are you using XFree86 4.x? I think you probably are if you're in Woody.
I had the *exact* same problem, but mine was due to frame buffer 
support.

Run `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' to configure X. And you may want
to answer `No' when it asks you about frame buffer support unless you
know what you're doing there. I think that will probably do it.

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Re: "C" Manual

[Brian Clark]

* Charles Baker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 20. 2001 16:36]:

> http://www.gnu.org/order/order.html

> The C++ Programming Language by Stroustrup
> http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?theisbn=0201889544&vm=

> The C Programming Language by Kernighan and Ritchie
> http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?theisbn=0131103628&vm=

And if you have the extra dough:

The Standard C Library, P.J. Plauger ISBN: 0131315099

I also found, C Programming: A Modern Approach, by K.N. King, good.

Another reference with reviews:

<http://www.accu.org/bookreviews/public/index.htm>

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Re: Unidentified subject!

[Brian Clark]

* Kent West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 19. 2001 22:06]:

> > apt-get dist-upgrade 

> > is not enough. What am I missing?

[...]

> You need to change your /etc/apt/sources.list file to point to unstable 

You mean `testing' for woody, right?  

> instead of stable (except the security line), then
>   apt-get update
> then
>   apt-get dist-upgradeor  apt-get install balsa to get just 
> what's needed 
> instead of an entire dist upgrade.

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Re: Mail cleaning script

[Brian Clark]

* Sven Burgener ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 18. 2001 04:09]:

> I am looking for a script that cleans out mails contained in the
> mail-files in /var/spool/mail/ that are older than a specific date, say
> 6 months, for example.

> Is there any such beast?

There may be tools that exist specifically for this purpose, but in the
spirit of this list:

grepmail can do it. You'd basically grep for messages between start-date
and "now" and direct the output to a file. Then when you're satisfied
you've got the syntax down right, write a shell script that does this at
regular intervals, for example, writes your results to a temp file, then
overwrite the mailbox with the temp file.

apt-get install grepmail

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Re: term, locale, and bbkeys

[Brian Clark]

* Brian Clark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 16. 2001 21:07]:

[...]

> Now, why is it that when I hit Ctrl+Alt+M, mutt opens and displays
> certain characters with a question mark `?', but when I open an xterm 
> (or aterm, or whatever), and type `mutt' the characters are displayed
> correctly?

> Why does it seem to be picking up my LC_* settings one way, but not the
> other?

Whoops, I found my problem. /etc/environment

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term, locale, and bbkeys

[Brian Clark]

This is driving me completely nuts. 

Let's say I have this in my .bbkeysrc (blackbox):

KeyToGrab(M), WithModifier(Mod1+Control), WithAction(ExecCommand),
DoThis(aterm +sb -tr -pr darkgrey -cr darkgrey -fg white -sh 40
-geometry 108x42+6+2 -e mutt)

And let's say my locale settings are:

(~)% locale
LANG=en_US
LC_CTYPE="en_US"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US"
LC_TIME="en_US"
LC_COLLATE="en_US"
LC_MONETARY="en_US"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US"
LC_PAPER="en_US"
LC_NAME="en_US"
LC_ADDRESS="en_US"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_US"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US"
LC_ALL=en_US


Now, why is it that when I hit Ctrl+Alt+M, mutt opens and displays
certain characters with a question mark `?', but when I open an xterm 
(or aterm, or whatever), and type `mutt' the characters are displayed
correctly?

Why does it seem to be picking up my LC_* settings one way, but not the
other?

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Re: Apache doesn't start

[Brian Clark]

* Dragon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 16. 2001 16:12]:

>   I've meant to set up the server as standalone to have the possibility to
> practise with php, may be I'll have to downgrade to potato, I don't know.

(I didn't catch the whole thread, so if this has been covered, ignore my
babbling)

You may want to try pulling down the source tarball for 1.3.22 from 
httpd.apache.org and build it from source (just a basic configuration
just to see if it'll run). No need to `make install', just ./configure
then make. Just run httpd from the src directory (I think) and see if 
it segfaults.

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Re: telnet unable to connect

[Brian Clark]

* Paul Scott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 16. 2001 02:38]:

> should not setup or allow telnet at all.  Is the setup for ssh exactly 
> the same as for telnet.  I didn't see it in the example I found in the 
> HOWTO.

(~)% dpkg -l ssh | grep ssh
ii  ssh   3.0.1p1-1.2   Secure rlogin/rsh/rcp replacement 
(OpenSSH)

So you'd do:

% su
% apt-get update
% apt-get -u install ssh


> >I suspect your telnet issues have to do with /etc/inetd.conf and/or
> >tcpwrappers.

> I was just beginning to discover that.  That brings the questions:  is 
> /usr/sbin/in.telnetd a real executable or will it be a link created as a 
> result of the contents of inetd.conf?

Just remember when apt-get install ssh , dpkg will do all the 
configuration that's needed. Don't attempt to run sshd from inetd.

Check out the -i option in sshd(8) for an explanation.

(I think sshd knows libwrap too, so still check out hosts_access(5))

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Re: telnet unable to connect

[Brian Clark]

* Paul Scott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 16. 2001 01:54]:

> My two computers with fixed IP's can ping each other but telnet says 
> "unable to connect to remote host"  I would guess it might have to do 
> with file permissions.  I just need this because of the X lockups I get 
> often enough to be a problem.

> TIA for hints as to where to look or what I should be reading.

Do you have a telnet daemon running on the remote host? If so, check the
remote hosts' /etc/hosts.deny and hosts.allow. man 5 hosts_access

You should really be using ssh. Any reason why you're stuck on telnet?

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Re: moving to Debian

[Brian Clark]

* Kurt Lieber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 13. 2001 02:19]:

> Honestly, I'd recommend skipping testing and going straight to unstable.  
> Despite the name, unstable is quite acceptable as a desktop machine.  I 
> wouldn't run it as a server, but I wouldn't run testing on a server, either.  
> Testing has too many  dependency conflicts that don't get resolved in a 
> timely fashion because of the way testing works.  Testing really isn't meant 
> for human consumption, IMO.  When unstable has problems, they're generally 
> resolved within a day or two.  
> 
> I had more problems running testing than I've had since I've moved to Sid.  
> YMMV, however.

I've always been kind of nervous about  dist-upgrading to unstable. If I did
decide to do that, has anyone had any luck in downgrading to woody after
an upgrade to sid (For example, if there were any major problems after
the upgrade)?

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Re: php4 parameter problems

[Brian Clark]

* Patrick Hsieh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 12. 2001 01:25]:

> http://host.domain.com/test.php?111+222+&test_par=aaa&;
> 
> then in test.php, I can get
> 111 as argv0
> 222 as argv1
> &test_par=aaa& as argv3
> 
> but I can't get the value of $test_par, which should be aaa

What's wrong with just using $test_par? As in:



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Re: HTML editing

[Brian Clark]

* Alec ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 11. 2001 01:27]:

> I just discovered that Mozilla has a gread WYSIWYG HTML editor. Up until now 
> my favorite choice was VIM. I'm still trying to figure out how to start that 
> editor without starting Mozilla itself, but does anyone know if KDE offers 
> any WYSIWYG HTML editors of similar excellence?
> apt-cache search kde | grep -i html
> produced nothing :(

quanta - Web Development Environment for KDE

I've never used it though. Alternatives are:

amaya - Graphical HTML Editor from w3.org
bluefish - A Gtk+ HTML editor
screem - A GNOME website development environment

(That's from a cache query in testing.)

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Re: mutt and urlview oddity (alternatives)

[Brian Clark]

* Steve Cooper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 10. 2001 00:14]:

> FWIW - I find mhonarc (Sid package) to be a better alternative to
> urlview.  With it I load the entire email with click-able links into my
> favorite browser.  Gives me a lot more context for selecting links to
> see the whole email.  The following .muttrc macros give me this
> functionality:

I'm familiar with mhonarc, but it seems like a whole lot of code just to
view URLs embedded in email. :-D

Seriously, if I can't figure out what's wrong with urlview, I may just
install mhonarc.

But then again..

The problem seems to be with the pipe | in the macro. For some reason,
_something_ won't let me use a pipe in my mutt config. 

For example, I can do this:

macro pager \cb "!perl -MCPAN -e shell;\n"

And that works. So it's not a freaky conflict or anything with that
key-combo/xterm/whatever. :-\

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Re: How can i install woody?

[Brian Clark]

* Paul E Condon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 09. 2001 23:42]:

> > I think you are supposed to use the web-based base install, at least
> > that is what I usually do.
> >
> > Michel.
> >
> > > I went through the exact same thing (and I was shocked the woody
> > > base* images were not there, too). I just created the root and rescue
> > > floppy for potato, wrote the base*.tgz (for potato) and the drivers.tgz
> > > to a CD-R and installed potato. From there it's really easy to change
> > > your sources.list to point to testing and do a apt-get -u dist-upgrade
> > > (you may want to do apt-get -us dist-upgrade first to make sure
> > > everything looks OK). I didn't run into too many problems with that
> > > method.
> 
> I gathered from this exchange that exchange that there is a way of installing 
> woody
> that involves the web and does not use base-x floppies. So I tried it.
> Today, it didn't seem to be confusing. But it didn't work. Here is what 
> happened:
> 
> 1> Pretty much like Potato install at the beginning. No problems.
> I tell it about network card and ppp. I don't recall it asking about modem.
> 
> 2> Get to the place where it asks where it should go for the packages to 
> install. It
> gives several options, including web. I choose web.

During my install, it only gave me the option of installing from a local
hard disk (I think), and CD-ROM. This is after I told it about ppp, as
well.

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Re: How can i install woody?

[Brian Clark]

* Michel Loos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 09. 2001 16:19]:

> > > > > Wrong: 
> > > > > ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/
> > > 
> > > I just looked at this link. There are no base-x floppy images. I had 
> > > noticed
> > > this a few days ago and thought they would soon appear. Now I wonder. Is 
> > > one
> > > supposed to use the base-x disks from potato? (Yes, I am a newbie.)
> > 
> 
> I think you are supposed to use the web-based base install, at least
> that is what I usually do.
 
I couldn't get this to work. The woody install program was confusing. At
some points, I couldn't figure out what it wanted. Paul might be going
through the same thing. 

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Re: How can i install woody?

[Brian Clark]

* Paul E Condon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 09. 2001 01:25]:

> > > > But I don't believe there are any install floppies yet for woody, right?
> > >
> > > Wrong: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/
> 
> I just looked at this link. There are no base-x floppy images. I had noticed
> this a few days ago and thought they would soon appear. Now I wonder. Is one
> supposed to use the base-x disks from potato? (Yes, I am a newbie.)

I went through the exact same thing (and I was shocked the woody
base* images were not there, too). I just created the root and rescue
floppy for potato, wrote the base*.tgz (for potato) and the drivers.tgz
to a CD-R and installed potato. From there it's really easy to change
your sources.list to point to testing and do a apt-get -u dist-upgrade
(you may want to do apt-get -us dist-upgrade first to make sure 
everything looks OK). I didn't run into too many problems with that
method.

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Re: mutt and urlview oddity

[Brian Clark]

* Wayne Topa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 09. 2001 13:12]:

> > > > macro pager \Cb "|urlview\n"
> > > 
> > > Please comment out this line.
> > 
> > Why comment out that line? Straight from the manual, it lists both:
> > 
> > <http://mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-4.html#ss4.13>
> > 
> 
> I am running mutt 1.3.24-1 on woody.  My urlview macro's has not
> changed, AFAIR, from potato.  It is just like above _but_ without the
> " ".
> 
> macro index \cb |urlview\n
> macro pager \cb |urlview\n

I've tried all combinations I can think of, including without quotes,
and it still won't work. I find this incredibly strange -- especially
since we're using the same flavor of the same distro and the same mutt
version. Whew, this is aggravating.

(I think I need to get my ispell working too. )

Does anyone have any other suggestions?

I'm starting to think Billy G. must have implanted demons into his MS 
Natural keyboards.

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Re: mutt and urlview oddity

[Brian Clark]

* Raghavendra Bhat ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Dec 08. 2001 21:42]:

> > macro index \Cb "|urlview\n"
> 
> macro index \cb |urlview\n
> 
> 
> > macro pager \Cb "|urlview\n"
> 
> Please comment out this line.

Why comment out that line? Straight from the manual, it lists both:

<http://mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-4.html#ss4.13>

The case of \c makes no difference in my .muttrc. Using the above
directions still doesn't function correctly. :-(
 
"Key is not bound. Press '?' for help."

(I reloaded mutt after I made those changes, of course)

> > Ideas? Anyone experienced this problem?
> 
> I had.   Now, I  have solved  it.  Pressing 'Ctrl-B'  shows me  the URLs
> embedded in a particular mail, iff any.

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mutt and urlview oddity

[Brian Clark]

Howdy,

I posed this question to the mutt-users list and several users say that
they don't have a problem with this.

If I set this in my .muttrc:

macro index \Cb "|urlview\n"
macro pager \Cb "|urlview\n"

(the key combination doesn't matter)

I _always_ get "Key not bound. Press ? for help."

I have urlview installed and it's in my $PATH.

I've also tried setting up the macro on the fly from within mutt:

:macro pager ] "|urlview\n"
:macro index ] "|urlview\n"

And it gives me the same "Key not bound" notice.

I'm starting to think this is a quirk specific to the Debian packages. 

Ideas? Anyone experienced this problem?

I'm running woody

(~)% dpkg -l | egrep '(urlview|mutt)'
ii  mutt   1.3.24-1   Text-based mailreader supporting MIME, GPG, 
ii  urlview0.9-2.1Extracts URLs from text


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Re: nvidia drivers & kernel 2.4.14

[Brian Clark]

* David Teague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Dec 07. 2001 18:42]:

> Ijust bought a 32MB  nVidia TNT 2 card, and I run Woody with a
> fairly late 2.4 kernel. Am I going to have trouble? Xfree claims to
> support this card in X 4.0 
> 
> Am I in for it, as Mother used to say?

I've used a 32Mb nVidia TNT2 on several different distributions,
including Debian, with 2.2.x and 2.4.x kernels without any problems.

I doubt you'll have much trouble..

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Re: power management & monitor

[Brian Clark]

* Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Dec 06. 2001 17:14]:

> > xset -dpms
> 
> OK, so how do you make that the default?  I've commented out the

I just ran it from the command line, then stuck this in my .xsession:

xset -dpms
xset s off

Just know that if you're using something like wdm/xdm/kdm/gdm, you'll
need to choose the 'default' next time you x-login in order for your
.xsession to be read (IIRC).

-- 
 -Brian Clark

Re: power management & monitor

[Brian Clark]

* Rick Macdonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Dec 06. 2001 15:39]:

> Try this to see if X is doing it:
> 
> timshel:~$ xset -q

Yep, and I guess I also just figured out what I needed to know about my
repeat rate. 

Thanks..

-- 
 -Brian Clark

Re: power management & monitor

[Brian Clark]

* Jeffrey W. Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Dec 06. 2001 15:41]:

> > I've tried poking around in the usual places and I can't seem to find
> > anything.
> 
> xset -dpms

Super, thanks!

-- 
 -Brian Clark

power management & monitor

[Brian Clark]

Can anyone tell me why my monitor insists on going into standby mode
when left alone for a period of time? I've turned off all power
management stuff in the BIOS and apm appears to be disabled:

% dmesg | egrep apm
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x0b (Driver version 1.13)
apm: disabled on user request.

I've tried poking around in the usual places and I can't seem to find
anything.

-- 
 -Brian Clark

Re: Errors compiling PHP4 on potato

[Brian Clark]

* George Karaolides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Dec 06. 2001 09:09]:

> I'm trying to compile PHP4 on Debian potato.  I'm using the Debian source
> package php4_4.0.3pl1-0potato1.

You should consider using a recent snapshot from snaps.php.net

> I'm getting the following errors, which seem to be related to mysql.  This
> is despite the fact that I've commented out the mysql configuration
> options in debian/rules (I don't need mysql support).

If you're positive you don't want mysql support, try configuring with:

--disable-mysql

-- 
 -Brian Clark

Re: Mutt and filtering to multiple mailboxes

[Brian Clark]

* Eric Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Dec 05. 2001 23:10]:

> I don't have anything against procmail. I am not familiar with it. I
> will look it up.

This will help you a great deal then:

<http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/qs/>

-- 
 -Brian Clark

Re: apt sources list

[Brian Clark]

* Michael Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Dec 02. 2001 21:19]:

> > The best thing to do, IMO, is to use netselect-apt.
> 
> Hello Brian,
> 
> I think, you mean apt-spy. This little programm looks for
> debian-mirrors and then write the /etc/apt/sources.list.

Nope, I'm positive I mean netselect-apt. I used it just an hour ago.
Perhaps we're talking about the same application under different
aliases? According to your description, they do the same thing,
althought I don't have anything called apt-spy on my box.

Cheers,
-- 
 -Brian Clark

Re: apt sources list

[Brian Clark]

* Eric Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Dec 02. 2001 18:38]:

> I read the list and see apt-get lines that work for other folks but when I 
> try them the target item is not found. An example: apt-get install libgpcl0.  
> I assume that the problem is that I am either using the wrong source servers 
> or using the wrong source level (i.e., stable vs. unstable).  
> 
> Could anyone who has a good list please post their /etc/apt/sources.list so I 
> can use it for a reference. 
The best thing to do, IMO, is to use netselect-apt.

<http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/>

Check out section 2.3

I had those problems, but netselect-apt fixed me up after a few tries. I
have a reeeal slow link.

-- 
 -Brian Clark

Re: just installed woody and have problem with X install

[Brian Clark]

* Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Dec 02. 2001 17:13]:

> > > % apt-get --reinstall xfonts-base
> > > 
> > > And it *should* fix it.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > >  -Brian Clark
> > 
> > then I get...
> > 
> > E: Invalid operation xfonts-base
> Should be apt-get --reinstall install xfonts-base
> ^^^

Whoops. I left out the important part. Not to mention, I forgot to CC
the list. I must fix my Mutt, sorry guys.

-- 
 -Brian Clark

Re: just installed woody and have problem with X install

[Brian Clark]

* Robinder Bains <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Dec 02. 2001 01:49]:
 
> > % dpkg -l | grep xfree
> 
> I got
> 
> ii  xfree86-common 4.1.0-9X Window System (XFree86) infrastructure
> 
>   only
> 
> > ii  xfree86-common 4.1.0-9X Window System (XFree86) infrastructure
> > ii  xserver-xfree8 4.1.0-9the XFree86 X server
> 
>  It looks like I'm missing the second one.  How do I install/download that?

Make sure your sources.list is pointing to the right place (testing for
woody, stable for potato, unstable for sid), then:

% apt-get update
% apt-get -s install xserver-xfree86

Problems? No, then..

% apt-get install xserver-xfree86

And it should automatically start the configuration after it's
installed.

-- 
 -Brian Clark

Re: just installed woody and have problem with X install

[Brian Clark]

* Robinder Bains <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Dec 01. 2001 23:14]:

>   I'm new at this. How do I find out if I have xserver-xfree86 installed?

% dpkg -l | grep xfree
ii  xfree86-common 4.1.0-9X Window System (XFree86) infrastructure
ii  xserver-xfree8 4.1.0-9the XFree86 X server

If that is so, then do this:

% dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86

-- 
 -Brian Clark

Re: GTK+(?) font sizes insanity

[Brian Clark]

Tobias Wolter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > Does anyone have _any_ idea to get these back down to a decent size?
> 
> Yepp.
> Check out the GNOME Control Center. There, 'hidden' in the Theme
> Selector dialog, you can also set the font to what pleases you most.

OMG that is so much better. If I had 5 bucks I'd give it to you.

Thanks! :-)

-- 
-Brian

Re: 2 packages depends on each other

[Brian Clark]

a [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> apt-get can do that?

Yep.

> when i "apt-get update" it seems that apt can't find "Packages" though i
> check sources.list

See:



Which should help you out a lot. Especially section 2.3.

-Brian

GTK+(?) font sizes insanity

[Brian Clark]

Howdy,

This has been getting on my nerves for about a week now. The font sizes
in the toolbars and buttons on any applications that use GTK+ are way
too big for my tastes.  

Does anyone have _any_ idea to get these back down to a decent size?

I don't know if Mozilla uses GTK, or if it's even GTK that's to blame,
but The Mozilla toolbar has the huge fonts too. :-(

Check out a screen shot of what I'm talking about here:



Mozilla and Bluefish in that shot. I'm running woody. If you need any
more information I'll be happy to provide. 
 
(Sorry if the image is a little heavy. I don't have Gimp yet) 

-- 
-Brian

Re: mouse freezes in X

[Brian Clark]

Hi Joey,

@ 8:53:09 PM on 11/28/2001, joey tsai wrote:

> Hi, I have a Microsoft Intellimouse Optical, and I'm currently using
> it via ps/2 port. I had no problems with it for nearly a year, but
> now in X it will simply freeze on the screen and won't respond.
> Restarting X will usually restore it, but eventually it will freeze
> again. Is anyone else having this problem? Does anyone have any
> suggestions? Thanks,

I use the same mouse. I fixed it (and got my wheel to work) by
changing from PS/2 to IMPS/2 in my XF86Config-4 mouse section. Try
that, then restart X and it will probably work just fine.

-Brian

Re: OpenSSH & Mozilla & Woody

[Brian Clark]

Hi Dmitriy,

@ 7:45:33 PM on 11/27/2001, Dmitriy wrote:

> If you really want to have 0.9.6 just get sources from unstable and
> compile for woody.  Or play with pinning packages, that may work with
> too.

I just figured this one out. I wasn't picking it up in apt because of
my sources.list and the non-us packaging. :-\

>> For OpenSSH, if I want ssh2, where should I get this package?
>> AFAIK, my potato server is _only_ ssh1. Would it be better to build
>> from the source tarball?
>> 
> AFAIK ssh2 package is non-free, and I always thought it was not OpenSSH.
> Furthermore, it is orphaned and will probably be dropped soon.

No no, sorry about that. I'm talking about the protocol. It *is*
OpenSSH that I want. Thanks for the advice, and I'll give it a try.

-Brian

OpenSSH & Mozilla & Woody

[Brian Clark]

Howdy Folks!

What type of acrobatics will it take for me to get Mozilla and OpenSSH
(ssh2) into my woody workstation? :)

For Mozilla, is it's perfectly OK to get Mozilla from potato or
[preferably?] sid without it busting any existing dependencies? I was
a little afraid to apt-get in that direction earlier..

For OpenSSH, if I want ssh2, where should I get this package?
AFAIK, my potato server is _only_ ssh1. Would it be better to build
from the source tarball?

I'm trying not to cause myself a lot of problems later when I start
updating packages..

Thanks :)
-Brian
(who's spirits are quite a bit brighter since he got blackbox up)

Re: Woody & XFree86: no screens found

[Brian Clark]

Hi Eric,

@ 2:47:27 AM on 11/27/2001, Eric G. Miller wrote:

>> Option  "UseFBDev"  "true"

> Do you really want to use the framebuffer device? And, if so does
> your current kernel have framebuffer support compiled in?

No, I don't have that in my kernel, but I think I'm going to get/build
it into it though. Temporarily turning off UseFBDev fixed it.
Beautiful.

Thanks, Eric!

-Brian

Woody & XFree86: no screens found

[Brian Clark]

Hello,

Using XFree86 4.x from testing/woody and running startx gives me
this error:

8<

(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

>8

My card is a Viper v770 TNT2 Ultra and my display is a Sony GDM
400-PS. Keyboard is an MS Natural 104, and mouse in a MS Explorer --
both PS/2 devices (after USB to PS/2 adapters).

I successfully (or so it seemed) configured XFree86 using:

% dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86

Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

-Brian

My XF86Config-4 follows (XFree86.log is beneath it):


# XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by Dexconf, the
# Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config manual page.
# (Type "man XF86Config" at the shell prompt.)

Section "Files"
FontPath"unix/:7100"# local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load"ddc"
Load"GLcore"
Load"dbe"
Load"dri"
Load"extmod"
Load"glx"
Load"pex5"
Load"record"
Load"xie"
Load"bitmap"
Load"freetype"
Load"speedo"
Load"type1"
Load"vbe"
Load"int10"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
Driver  "keyboard"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xfree86"
Option  "XkbModel"  "pc104"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "SendCoreEvents""true"
Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Viper v770 TNT2"
Driver  "nv"
Option  "UseFBDev"  "true"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "Sony GDM 400-PS"
HorizSync   31.5-93.8
VertRefresh 60-85
Option  "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Default Screen"
Device  "Viper v770 TNT2"
Monitor "Sony GDM 400-PS"
DefaultDepth24
SubSection "Display"
Depth   1
Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   4
Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   8
Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   15
Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   16
Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier  "Default Layout"
Screen  "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
InputDevice "Generic Mouse"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode0666
EndSection

# end of XF86Config



And the output of XFree86.log


XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510)
Release Date: xx August 2001
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://w

Re: Woody FTP Install?!

[Brian Clark]

Hi Colin,

@ 7:20:35 PM on 11/25/2001, Colin Watson wrote:

>> In order to do an FTP install for woody, I need the baseX.tgz or the
>> baseX.bin files. Only the drivers, root, and rescue images are
>> available (no base install files):

> base*.tgz files are no longer used for woody. Instead, base is
> downloaded on the fly using a tool called debootstrap.

OK, then I had a problem with debootstrap. When I got to the section
where I install the base system, it wouldn't let me download the base
system over ppp, for example, and it didn't even give me the choice of
downloading it over the network (even with my NIC driver found). It
wanted either the CD-ROM or floppies.

Everything when OK, though, using rescue and root floppies along with
base2_2.tgz and drivers.tgz on a CD-R using the default /instamnt
mount point.

I installed the base system, downloaded a fairly decent usable system
via apt then proceeded to dist-upgrade to woody without any problems
(AFAIK).

It was _painfully_ slow over 21,6 dialup, but I eventually got there.

I was really pleased that potato picked up my CD-RW and SCSI adapter.

-Brian

Re: Woody FTP Install?!

[Brian Clark]

Hi Colin,

@ 12:55:03 PM on 11/25/2001, Colin Watson wrote:

>> Err, alright, so I figure out everything will be fine with my hardware
>> if I stick with woody, but I get ready to install and what?! No FTP
>> install for woody? What in the world?

> Hmm? There should be no problem with FTP. What exactly are you
> looking for?

In order to do an FTP install for woody, I need the baseX.tgz or the
baseX.bin files. Only the drivers, root, and rescue images are
available (no base install files):

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/images-1.44/
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/current/

-Brian

Woody FTP Install?!

[Brian Clark]

Err, alright, so I figure out everything will be fine with my hardware
if I stick with woody, but I get ready to install and what?! No FTP
install for woody? What in the world?

So I'm going to have to install potato and then dist-upgrade? Over
dialup? :-)

If I do have to install stable, is it possible to just burn
base2_2.tgz to a CD-R under Winblows in order to load the base system
from the CD-R?

Thanks,
-Brian

Pre-install: hardware and kernel query

[Brian Clark]

Greetings,

It's been a long time since I've attempted to run Debian on my
workstation. The last time was around slink frozen I think. Wasn't my
time..

First, I have a feeling I'm going to burn for this one, but.. why is
Debian (all versions?) not running 2.4 kernels? Please, please go
easy.. :-)

Second, I've checked the hardware compatibility lists, but I'm still
unsure of my SCSI controller. My motherboard is a Asus P2B-DS with the
AIC-7890 on-board controller. The last time I checked, there was
unofficial (flaky?) support for it
<http://people.debian.org/~joey/linx.html> and the link for those boot
disks is now a 404. Do I not need them anymore?

For the record, I'm planning to install woody this weekend some time,
and here's the important hardware in case anyone can give me a
definite "yeah those are fine" to make me feel a lot more at ease:

Motherboard: Asus P2B-DS (AIC-7890)
(^^^ I have no IDE disks, so it's gotta work)
Graphics: Diamond Viper TNT2 Ultra 32Mb (nVidia)
Sound: SB Live!
CD-RW: HP 8100i
USB devices:
MS Explorer Mouse (the ball-less-laser-instead kind)
MS Natural Keyboard

And finally, this may be a long shot, but am I going to get 2 channels
working on sound card? Front/Rear satellites plus a sub? I have some
great speakers, but I'd hate to have to listen to them from a Windows
machine.

Thank you very much.

-- 
-Brian Clark | PGP is spoken here: 0xE4D0C7C8

Re: Upgrade from potato-frozen

[Brian Clark]

Brian Clark wrote:

>Greetings,
>
>I just want someone to verify that I have this correct.
>
>I'm currently running potato-frozen from way-back-who-knows-when, and this
>thing needs a serious upgrade.
>
>To do that (which is much needed that this point) I just need to change
>every occurrence of the word frozen in /etc/apt/sources.list to potato,
>then do `apt-get update' then `apt-get dist-upgrade'. Right?
>
>I want to make sure this is correct because I sure don't have the time
>right now to do a complete install from scratch if this gets ^F up.
>
>By doing this, do you think I'm going to have any problems?

I got no replies, but if anyone is curious, I went ahead with it and 
everything *appears* to have gone fine.


-Brian

---
Every morning is the dawn of a new error.

Upgrade from potato-frozen

[Brian Clark]

Greetings,

I just want someone to verify that I have this correct.

I'm currently running potato-frozen from way-back-who-knows-when, and this 
thing needs a serious upgrade.


To do that (which is much needed that this point) I just need to change 
every occurrence of the word frozen in /etc/apt/sources.list to potato, 
then do `apt-get update' then `apt-get dist-upgrade'. Right?


I want to make sure this is correct because I sure don't have the time 
right now to do a complete install from scratch if this gets ^F up.


By doing this, do you think I'm going to have any problems?

Thanks,

-Brian

---
You put your left leg down, your right leg up,
tilt ya head back lets finish the cup.

Re: debian logo

[Brian Clark]

Engelen said:

>> >I'm sure it's been answered before, but could someone tell me where
>> >the debian
>> >logo comes from?...
>
>> There are quite a few in various resolutions on the debian site. Check
>> www.debian.org and find it.
>
>This _will_ be hard. There is a page 'www.debian.org/logos' but it's
>very poorly maintained (BTW could I voulenteer to maintain just that
>page? I mean, I have not much time, but such a fairly static page wouldn't
>be a problem... If we all just took one page that'd keep the site up to
>date...
>
>Anyway the creator of the logo has put up a site with some opensource
>art, including the debian logo: http://devel.onshore.com/gnu_art if my
>memory serves my right.


Besides the above replies, I think he also may have been asking what the 
Debian logo symbolizes -- among other things -- (as in "Where did the idea 
for the logo come from?" maybe.


I could be wrong, but doesn't it come from a Genie (smoke swirling out of a 
Genie bottle)? Or am I way off base about that? :-)


Happy Trails,

Brian