Re: HPLIP - upgrade to 3.20.0 and can no longer print.
On Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 06:53:10PM +, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Wed, 4 Mar 2020 17:12:00 + > Brian wrote: > > Hello Brian, > > >isn't quite what I meant by having the printer on the network. I assume > >the printer is USB-connected to the server. Strictly speaking, it is the > > The printer is connected via ethernet, rather than USB. > > >For a useful output, wireless would have to activated on the printer and > >it would have to connect to a wireless access point. > > I can connect the printer wirelessly, if necessary. > > Thank you for your patience. Thank you for your responsiveness. What I am probing is not at all central to your issue, but it is useful to know and may give you another way of printing. -- Brian.
Re: HPLIP - upgrade to 3.20.0 and can no longer print.
On Wed, Mar 04, 2020 at 02:18:47PM +, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Wed, 04 Mar 2020 09:03:04 -0500 > The Wanderer wrote: > > Hello The, > > >I wonder whether this might therefore be the result of a change in cups, > >rather than in hplip. > > Thanks for the pointer. Frankly, I have no idea what the change in CUPS > means. That is, what are the implications WRT to hplip? There are none. The hplip package simply ceases to be a recommends of other packages. > Should I be removing hplip, for example? No. Perhaps. It depends on what your printer model is. It is traditional to offer such information when discussing printing matters. > If yes, that would be a pity, since hplip has some features I find > useful, though not essential. I can, for example, simply walk to the > printer to find out about ink levels, but it's nice to be able to do > that job without moving from the desk. Inconsequential as regards the major purpose of HPLIP. -- Brian.
Re: Is Debian 9 supposed to work on a Geode?
On Thu 02 May 2019 at 23:33:06 +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: > On Thu, 2 May 2019 20:49:28 +0100 Brian wrote: > > [...] > > In #917569 > > > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=917569 > > > > Francesco Poli treats upgrading one buster Soekris net5501 installation > > to another one. This implies he might very well have been running that > > device on stretch. Or, for that matter, running on a previous buster. > > > > I have previously found Francesco to be very co-operative, so I have put > > him in a Cc:. > > Hello! :-) > I am afraid I will disappoint you a bit this time... :-p Not at all. You have provided exactly the quality of information needed. > The only thing I can say is that I run Debian testing on my Soekris > net5501. The box has always tracked Debian testing, hence it only used > to run stretch when stretch was testing (that is to say, *before* > stretch was released as stable). It currently runs an updated buster > (== current Debian testing) and the Linux kernel is able to boot. Björn has exactly the same machine as you. You use yours on buster; he cannot even use it on stretch. Aren't computers wonderful? :) > I don't know whether the bug I reported (#917569) against > linux/4.19.12-1 corresponds to the same issue that Björn is > experiencing with linux/4.9.168-1 (#928340)... > > I am sorry I cannot be of more help. My machine doesn't differ in any significant way from Björn's. You motivated me to to upgrade from stretch, where it worked, to buster. No problem booting, so my answer to the subject header (Is Debian 9 supposed to work on a Geode?) is a resounding "yes". -- Brian.
Re: Let's play "Where is X?"
On Wed 30 Jan 2019 at 17:56:09 -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Brian composed on 2019-01-30 17:33 (UTC-0500): > > > You really should contribute to #80625 and let the systemd maintainers > > know where they have gone wrong with this issue. > > ??? > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=80625 not I don't know how that got there. My ineptitude. I gave the bug number earlier in this thread. All you had to to do was read back and use some initiative. #791342 -- Brian.
Re: Tea4CUPS: TEABILLING reports error
On Wed 30 May 2018 at 12:40:35 +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > I have tea4cups configured to power on my printer before printing. In order > to do this, I > prepended tea4cups:/ to the DeviceURI in printers.conf (if I remove this and > power on the > printer manually before printing, everything works as expected): I suppose this should work ok if done when cupsd is not running. I'd be inclined to modify the existing queue or set up a new one. A virtual queue would allow testing Tea4CUPS without wrapping the backend. The printer is being powered on by some type of electronic switch? > /etc/cups/printers.conf: > DeviceURI tea4cups:/http://hpljwlan:631/ipp/ http:// is a symlink the ipp backend. It's always useful to know what model of printer is being used. > I configured the printer power on script: > > /etc/cups/tea4cups.conf: > > > but I get unfortunately an error in /var/log/cups/error_log > > > E [30/May/2018:08:51:40 +0200] [Job 16] Tea4CUPS (PID 9689) : Traceback (most > recent call > last): > > Is seems something goes wrong while setting the TEABILLING environement > variable. > > Has anybody an idea why that could be? tea4cups.conf is the configuration file for Tea4CUPS. I guess you are using a prehook or posthook to activate the printer; we really need to know what you have for it (including any associated script). What part does TEABILLING play in the process? -- Brian.
Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation
On Tue 06 Mar 2018 at 18:27:29 +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Brian writes ("Re: (solved) Re: wireless fail after stretch installation"):
> > #694068, #696755, #727740 and #777439.
>
> Thanks.
>
> I have read the bug logs and Trent Buck's message here
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=694068#47
> seems to suggest a way forward.
>
> Perhaps someone would care to write and test a patch to d-i's network
> configuration arrangements, to implement Trent's suggestion ? I think
> that the people who don't have network-manager would probably prefer
> this to use ifupdown, and making a whole new udeb will be work, so
> Trent's second suggestion seems sensible.
I would hazard a guess and say that 100% of users would expect to be
able to use the network they have set up during installation, afterwards.
Without an ethernet interface on the machine it becomes resorting to
setting it up again (5%), resorting to -user or the internet from
another machine (20%) or some head-scratching followed by walking away.
(The percentages are rough estimates).
> > > > The plain and simple fact is that a user who installs over a wireless
> > > > link and does not have network-manager does not have any connectivity
> > > > to the internet after first boot. Long Wind solved the issue by taking
> > > > the advice given and Charlie S used his initiative and knowledge to
> > > > devise an /e/n/i file which replaced the one the installer had wiped
> > > > out.
> > > >
> > > > This has been going on since Debian 7.0.0 and is not the first time the
> > > > issue has arisen here. Debian must be the only OS which deliberately
> > > > removes connectivity present during installation.
>
> I have to say that the tone of this message is rather unfortunate.
> You make it sound like someone is deliberately breaking stuff. That
> doesn't seem to be the case.
The message was written to -user. Besides having a really helpful bunch
of users, there can sometimes be a robustness and directness to the
exchanges. Don't let it put you off if you are used to a more gentile
environment.
I hadn't realised the breakage was accidental and unplanned. OTOH, I am
not in possession of the reasons behind it; apart from some conjecture,
they still remain unknown. As you will see from the bug record, even
Debian developers are mystified.
> Comparing to other distros can be very helpful but generalised
> statements that they don't have this bug is less useful than looking
> into how they solve the problem.
We don't know what the problem is.
--
Brian.
Re: Debian 9.3 GUI installation failure
On Sun 31 Dec 2017 at 20:37:06 +, Brian Potkin wrote: > On Sun 31 Dec 2017 at 10:10:31 +, w f wrote: > > > I tried installing Debian 9.3 today. I used the netinst CD amd64 version.All > > was going well until about 4/5ths of the way through ...I suddenly got an > > error message about "ispell" and that something "british" couldn't be > > installed.(I chose "US" throughout the whole process; I'm not sure why it's > > installing something "british.")I'm sorry I don't have more details. There's > > no way for me to capture the screen or the text.After the notice, it gave me > > the option to return to "install packages ..." to fix the problem.However, > > when I click "Continue" and go back to "Select and Install Software," all it > > does is repeat the notice that "An installation step failed ..."I cannot > > continue the install process. The next step is bootloader installation.The > > system is not bootable; I have to restart from scratch.Is this a bug? DId I > > do something wrong? What can I do to avoid this problem before investing > > another 2 hours?- Liam You are apparently not subscribed to this list and have not requested to have a Cc:. There are two responses to your mail at present and they do not appear in your inbox by magic. What arrangements have you made to read them and respond? This message will not be sent again nor will you receive more personal posts from me prompting a reply. -- Brian. >
Re: Debian 9.3 GUI installation failure
On Sun 31 Dec 2017 at 10:10:31 +, w f wrote: > I tried installing Debian 9.3 today. I used the netinst CD amd64 version.All > was going well until about 4/5ths of the way through ...I suddenly got an > error message about "ispell" and that something "british" couldn't be > installed.(I chose "US" throughout the whole process; I'm not sure why it's > installing something "british.")I'm sorry I don't have more details. There's > no way for me to capture the screen or the text.After the notice, it gave me > the option to return to "install packages ..." to fix the problem.However, > when I click "Continue" and go back to "Select and Install Software," all it > does is repeat the notice that "An installation step failed ..."I cannot > continue the install process. The next step is bootloader installation.The > system is not bootable; I have to restart from scratch.Is this a bug? DId I > do something wrong? What can I do to avoid this problem before investing > another 2 hours?- Liam
Re: Re: Quoting Style
In posting of the month John Hasler very perceptively said: Then why do you send it? There is no answer to that. But being -user . . . . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/17082013200605.067c1ab75...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: your thoughts: special post for Debian birthday
On Mon 12 Aug 2013 at 11:57:42 +0200, Ana Guerrero Lopez wrote: Dear users and contributors, We would like publishing a special post in bits.d.o for the anniversary of Debian. The idea is publishing anonymous quotes from Debian users and developers about what Debian means for you. Please send your quotes ASAP at ana...@debian.org, Francesca and I will get all the emails send there. Ana, please would you say what the date of the anniversary is. Also, would you outline in what way it is may be special. Is it twenty years since the inception of Debian? Doesn't time pass when you are enjoying yourself? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/12082013195816.18aad0911...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Installing a Lenny package to an Etch machine
On Tue 01 Apr 2008 at 07:07:49 +0100, andy wrote: OK - I'll give the backports site a shot first, and then if no dice I'll compile from source. I'd suggest a look at pbuilder and this page: http://people.connexer.com/~roberto/howtos/debcustomize I've used it successfully to backport noncomplex packages to etch. -- Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which netinstal is for
On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 10:53:08AM -0700, Rodney D. Myers wrote: I'm getting ready to upgrade my other system to the AMD 64 Athlon series of processors . Which netinstall cdrom is the correct? the debian-testing-ia64-netinst.iso Yesterday I used the mini.iso from http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/debian-installer/2005-09-10/netboot Note - amd64, not ia64. Boot the CD, configure, install the base system and kernel and then get the packages you want from your chosen mirror. I am not sure what difference there is between the netinst CD and the mini.iso but both can be obtained using http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ And I do want testing? It is what I would choose. Stability doesn't appear to be an issue; security updates may be a concern. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Equivalent to MailWasherPro, windows version?
On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 08:05:03PM +0200, Dom wrote: Hello, I'm searching for a MailWasherPro (for Windows) equivalent for my new Linux Debian environment. That's a mail filter software that works kind of like this: It downloads only headers and first 20 lines of every email message from a server so that you can manually choose what to delete and what to leave on the server in order to be able to download them with your regular mail client later. There's also an option of building friend's list, blacklist and mail filter rules so that MailWasherPro can automatically check specific email messages for deletion or something else. As a Debian package you might find mailfilter worth a look. It too looks at the mail headers (but not the body of the mail) and will delete mail according to regexes you specify in a configuration file. There is also provision for having a whitelist. It can be run prior to fetchmail using the 'preconnect' parameter in your $HOME/.fetchmailrc. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: selecting which messages to download based on headers
On Sun, May 08, 2005 at 06:04:45PM +0300, ice.dp wrote: On 5/8/05, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? What are you trying to do? I'm cheking my mail via GPRS. It's $1 per Mb in my country. It's very expencive for me. But i'm subscribed to this list, and I don't want to download every message on this list. I want download only messages with subjects that are interesting to me freshmeat.net would be a place to look for software which would delete mail on a POP3 server after examining the headers. I've used poppy. With it the messages are examined one by one. That may not suit you but there is certain to be something else which will. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DisplaySize ignored?
Carlos Rodrigues writes:
I have a test installation of Debian (Sarge) and I wanted to force the
screen resolution for XFree86 to 96dpi (because the fonts for GTK apps
are way too big with the calculated default dpi settings), so I set
DisplaySize 270 203 in the Monitor section of XF86Config-4, but
this is completely ignored.i
What mey be causing this, wasn't DisplaySize supposed to override
the autocalculated values?
The FAQ in /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common deals with how to change the
dpi value used by the X server and gives a list of scripts to alter.
Could it be you have not done this correctly and the dpi setting in,
say, /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc is overriding your DisplaySize setting?
Alternatively, you may want to examine whether the GTK apps you use
depend on libgtk1.2 or libgtk2.0. It is my experience that those that
depend on libgtk1.2, for example, dillo and gentoo, ignore the
DisplaySize line in XF86Config-4 whereas firefox and gvim, which depend
on libgtk2.0, do not. Why this is so I have no idea but neither have I
put much effort yet into discovering why.
Actually, what I did to alter the menu and dialogue fonts was to create
the files $HOME/.gtkrc and $HOME/.gtkrc-2.0 for libgtk1.2 and libgtk2.0
dependent applications respectively. In the first one I have
style default
{
fontset=-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--20-*-*-*-*-*-*
}
class * style default
and in the second
gtk-font-name = Helvetica 14
Whether this is the best technique I do not know but it works well for
me with the default dpi setting of 100 in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc.
Brian.
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Re: OT: deliver text as email (UK)
On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 07:59:24PM +0100, Joe Mc Cool wrote: Please, how can I use my woody box to send free text messages to a mobile phone (in the UK) ? Firstly, you need to obtain an account with a provider who will allow you to send a text message from a web page. In the UK www.o2.co.uk and www.11.co.uk have such a service and are reliable. There are others. Secondly, assuming you want to work from the command line rather than through a browser you require software which will communicate with a provider's web page, login on your behalf and send the text message. smssend does that exactly and does it well. It is a Debian package with responsive upstream and Debian maintainers. My google searches have come up with nothing. With the search terms sms, uk and free you can experience information overload. Adding linux will reduce the number of hits but give you some idea of software available. Surely there has to be a web site somewhere that I can email and it will forward the text on my behalf to a designated mobile number. I have in mind something that I cobble together on the command line. I don't think you really mean you want to email a website. If indeed that is what you want then what is above will probably be of no help to you. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: smssend does not do anything ?
On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 01:57:06PM +0200, Ernst-Magne Vindal wrote: On Tue, 3 May 2005, Brian Potkin wrote: See where you get with: smssend eurobate.sms username password network number message Brian. [Sig snipped] Hi and thanks for reply I did a test on a windoze box and it was working. Used the windows scrip at debian and I was able to send but with errors: By 'working' I assume you mean the recipient got the sms. I find that smssend itself is generally reliable but the quality of the scripts, including any feedback they give, can vary. Providers changing their webpages will often break a script. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ smssend eurobate.sms username password 47 12345678 new message SmsSend Warning in provider loader : Unknown option : or 92 for Pakistan) SmsSend Warning in provider loader : Unknown option : to the french 0612345678 gsm : +33612345678) Result : Message should be on its way now [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ It did the same with: 0047 12345678 and 0047 +4712345678 The lines in eurobate.sms beginning '%Network Convert' and '%Tel Convert' should each be a single line. My guess is that somehow or other both have been broken into two lines. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: smssend does not do anything ?
On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 08:16:52PM +0200, Ernst-Magne Vindal wrote: Hi, anyone know smssend? I have just installed it and trying to send sms but nothing happens. It does not give any error but the message i not being delivered at the mobile phone. Im using eurobate and have the latest provider file. Trying to send with the following: smssend eurobate.sms login/*username*/ password /*mypw*/ 4712345678 Hi, sending from smssend Looking at the eurobate.sms script there are five parameters required. You have not used the network code. it then pause for a few seconds and back to promt, no error. cant find any logs either. Any ideas? With fewer than five parameters there should definitely be an error message generated which informs you there are not enough arguments for this provider. However, there is a space between 'password' and '/*mypw*/' which would (if what you have above is what you had on the command line) make five parameters and that is why no error is reported. For a log of the transaction append '-- -d5' to the command. No quotation marks of course. A number of html files are written to disk as well as to the console. See 'SkyUtils-options' in the smssend manual. I have an account at eurobyte.com, and also did by some extra sms to see if it helped. See where you get with: smssend eurobate.sms username password network number message Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect?
On Fri, Oct 29, 2004 at 11:07:02PM -0600, s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Jules Dubois: Synaptic. It's what I used until I read Joey Hess' article, titled something like 9 reasons to use aptitude instead of apt-get. Por favor, where is that article? Perhaps this is the article Jules recollected: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/10/msg01725.html Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: skype: Internet telephony
On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 10:10:04PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: Has anyone tried this? http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS2762250480.html Given its parentage I'd pay close attention to my firewalls and what hosts it accesses and how. I'm very curious as to how well it does what a sane user would want:-) Depends on what you mean by a 'sane user'. Such a user might want to use a product which (a) is capable of communicating with the rest of the VOIP world, (b) doesn't tie you to a particular communications provider, (c) supports standard protocols, (d) is not closed and proprietary, (e) is free. Skype might be very good technically but it doesn't fulfill any of these criteria whereas SIP based software and hardware is available which does. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: skype: Internet telephony
On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 08:38:07AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: Brian Potkin wrote: Depends on what you mean by a 'sane user'. Such a user might want to use a product which (a) is capable of communicating with the rest of the VOIP world, (b) doesn't tie you to a particular communications provider, (c) supports standard protocols, (d) is not closed and proprietary, (e) is free. Skype might be very good technically but it doesn't fulfill any of these criteria whereas SIP based software and hardware is available which does. Debian is a religion: it has nothing to do with being sensible or sane. I'd rather view Debian as a volunteer organisation endeavouring to produce the best free operating system possible. What could be more sane and sensible than that? You use close and proprietary software, so you shouldn't make that a requirement:-) Apologies if I misunderstand you here but I hope you are not asserting I use non-free software. If it was absolutely essential and there was no free alternative I would, but as it happens I have not yet had that situation arise. The point I was trying to make was that there is standards based software which is an alternative to Skype and which is well worth investigating. OTOH anyone with any sense would be concerned if it should prove to be sending information about them to some stickybeak who plans on making profit from it. http://www.skype.com/privacy.html is informative. Brian. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: 44 161 736 3886 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't play audio CD's
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 07:01:31AM -0400, Carl Brown wrote: On Tuesday 08 June 2004 3:28 am, Ogya Chief wrote: There is another group called disk or something like that. You need to belong to that group as well to be able to place audio cds. I had a similar problem over the weekend and once I added my name to that group, ...and logged out, then logged back in... ...and then wondered whether Chris Metzler was correct in saying: 'Group disk has write access to all the raw disk devices (/dev/hd* and /dev/sd*). Assigning users to group disk is both dangerous and a security risk.' as her/his contribution to the 'cd and floppy disk use' thread in debian-user on 2 May 2004. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SSL error in lynx browser
On Sat, Apr 10, 2004 at 07:51:54PM -0400, Lorenzo Prince wrote: Whenever I go to a secure site in lynx I get the following seemingly harmless error: SSL error:Can't find common name in certificate-Continue? (y) I say that the error seems harmless because if I hit y or any other key except n, it continues and displays the page as it should with no further problems untill I go to the next secure link when it presents the same error message. I just need to know which part of SSL may be misconfigured that may be causing this error and how I can fix it. I am running Debian Sid with lynx 2.8.5-1 and openssl 0.9.7d-1. There is no misconfiguration of SSL or lynx. Go to http://lynx.isc.org/ and follow the 'current development' link for some documentation. To alter the behaviour of lynx see the end of /etc/lynx.cfg. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail Filters
On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 07:07:59PM +0100, Clive Menzies wrote: On (05/04/04 10:48), Brad Camroux wrote: Hey all, I am just wondering how I might filter out emails with foreign-language-encoded fonts, like Chinese or Russian. Thanks, mailfilter works well but I'm not sure what regex you would use for this. DENY = ^Subject:.*(koi8|big5) DENY = charset=.*(koi8|big5) Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kphone
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 04:24:23AM -0500, Thomas Pomber wrote: Does anybody out there know how to use kphone? For instance, how do I know what my User Part of SIP url is, or the host part? And how do I call someone on their home phone (they say you can!)? Any help whatsoever would be appreciated. A SIP URL is similar to an email address. What the 'user' and 'host' parts are depends on whether you are receiving and sending voice traffic directly to and from your machine or whether you are employing the services of someone else's SIP server. In the second case kphone has to register with that server and for that you will, at the very least, need permission. A search on Google with 'VoIP' will give you plenty of information to occupy a Sunday afternoon but here's something to start you off: http://www.pulver.com/ kphone is a Voice-over-Internet Protocol (VoIP) application using the Internet. A home phone is on the public switched telephone network (PSTN). Reaching a home phone from khone requires someone to gateway the call between the two networks and for that there will almost certainly be a financial cost to you. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: linphone in debian
On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 08:42:13AM -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: Has anyone used linphone in this list that would care to share h(i,e)(s,r) experiences? It doesn't seem that it is packaged for debian by any official mantainer, is it? My experience of linphone is limited to registering with FWD (Free World Dialup) and it can be persuaded to do this. It should be possible to use it with other SIP enabled VOIP providers but I've seen little discussion on mailing lists and web pages relating to how smoothly or easily this proceeds in individual cases. Using linphone with an ALSA driver is recommended and it either won't work or not work well with OSS. Apart from that the sound quality was fine. Linphone has the advantage of functioning on the console and in X. My interest was in getting the console version of linphone working and a little more focus on this in the documentation would have been helpful. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian + PC to Phone applications
On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 07:34:26PM +0800, Neilen wrote: Hi. I'm currently working abroad of my home county, and calling home over POTS is very expensive. Great (factor 10-20) discounts can be achieved if I use a PC to phone provider, such as pccall.com or go2call.com. However they all seem to require the use of windows software. I suspect they might work with WINE, but I'm a little afraid of paying to open an account, and then being left in the cold. I am pretty sure that go2call offer a SIP based service. SIP is an internet protocol so, in theory, their service should work with any softphone which follows the standard. Linphone, kphone and sjphone are three Linux softphones I am aware of. The first two are free software. Alternatively, you could invest in a SIP hardphone or analogue telephone adapter (ATA). Has anyone had any success using a PC to phone app on Debian/other Linuxen? And, somewhat importantly, did bidirectional sound support work? The three applications I mention function reasonably well with full duplex sound but my experience of using them for any length of time is not extensive. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mymail worm
On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 08:24:52PM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote: Brian Potkin([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: Its usefulness in deleting spam and mail associated with the mymail worm before downloading it has been offset by the deletion of a small number of legitimate mails, including one a few minutes ago. The originating mail server should have added a Message-Id but for some reason some don't. Effective the rule might have been but I'd rather not lose mail. So use the rule with SCORE instead of DENY. If it's ligit mail other score rules will let it pass. I have yet to see any ligit mail get through (and I check daily) in well over 3 months of use. Thanks for reminding me of SCORE; I'll try combining a Message-Id: rule with some other header characteristic of mymail worm mails, perhaps To:. If it were possible to formulate independent sets of SCORE rules in mailfilter it would make the task easier. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mymail worm
On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 02:10:55PM +, Pigeon wrote: On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 01:59:32AM +, Antony Gelberg wrote: [Snip] Anyone have a similar rule to nuke this new mymail worm? I have some samples if anyone can tell me how to analyse them to paste the correct thing in the BD line. This beastie doesn't set the Message-Id: header. I find I can zap it quite happily by looking for Message-Id: headers that have been added by my ISP's mail relay; the following mailfilter rule works: DENY=^Message-Id:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...adjust to fit your ISP's relay and translate to procmailese. I use an identical rule in my mailfilterrc, or did until five minutes ago. Its now commented out. Its usefulness in deleting spam and mail associated with the mymail worm before downloading it has been offset by the deletion of a small number of legitimate mails, including one a few minutes ago. The originating mail server should have added a Message-Id but for some reason some don't. Effective the rule might have been but I'd rather not lose mail. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: viewing jpg files on text terminal
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 08:54:30PM +0530, Gauri S Deshmukh wrote: hello all i am not a subscriber to the list. i hope this message gets posted. i also request you to mark a copy of your replies to me. i use debian 3.0. is there any program/ utility that will let me see jpg/ gif files on the text terminal? zgv is suitable for this. Gauri, you could also have done a little bit more research on this by looking at http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages or with one or more of apt-cache search jpeg apt-cache search jpg apt-cache search gif Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: viewing multi-page .tiff: how to in linux
On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 10:01:37PM -0600, Damon L. Chesser wrote: Stephen wrote: On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 08:50:58PM -0600 or thereabouts, Damon L. Chesser wrote: Anybody got any ideas how to view a multi-page .tiff file? The only thing I use windows for anymore is to view .tiff's I get from work and Linux does not (that I have found) have a way to view the other pages after page one. Some of the unix image utilities should, or, your faxsoftware will have this capability. Most multipage tiffs are faxes. Did you try GIMP? Gimp only opens the first page, or I am ignorant on how to view other pages. I have no faxsoftware. H. Will have to look into that. Installing the mgetty-viewfax package takes only a minute or two and gets you 'viewfax', which is capable of viewing multipage tiffs. It would be useful to know whether it works for you. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: viewing multi-page .tiff: how to in linux
On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 09:28:32AM -0600, Damon L. Chesser wrote: Brian Potkin wrote: Installing the mgetty-viewfax package takes only a minute or two and gets you 'viewfax', which is capable of viewing multipage tiffs. It would be useful to know whether it works for you. Brian. I will look into it Brian! Prob. not today, I have a lot of housework my wife wants done :( Thanks for the help and I will let you know if it works or not! Let the list know, Damon. Adding to this thread would be appropriate. I see KFax lets you view your mulipage tiff. As I recollect, it is based on viewfax. Enjoy the housework but don't get carried away with it. You need to maintain your energy level to stay on top of learning Linux. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: viewing multi-page .tiff: how to in linux
On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 05:25:37PM -0600, Damon L. Chesser wrote: I installed mgetty-viewfax. It does indeed work! How do I get it to print? Nothing in the man pages that I saw. You cannot print from within viewfax. 'lpr file.tif' should work. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: viewing multi-page .tiff: how to in linux
On Sun, Jan 18, 2004 at 05:34:53PM -0600, Damon L. Chesser wrote: Bijan Soleymani wrote: Off the top of my head: tiff2ps -a image.tif image.ps Not sure what you are saying here: cli tiff2ps -a image.tif imag.ps ? man tiff2ps yields nothing running the above reports tiff2ps not found. synaptic reports no tiff2ps apt-cache search tiff2ps gives no return. tiff2ps is part of the libtiff-tools package so it will need to be installed. 'apt-cache search' unfortunately gave you nothing because tiff2ps does not appear in a package name or description (man apt-cache). The apt-file package or the packages page on www.debian.org are better for locating a particular file. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Midnight Commander: A full desktop, or application
On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 12:23:58AM -0600, Kent West wrote: Charles Muller wrote: A recent post to the list recommended Midnight Commander on the desktop. I went to their site to read the explanation and look at some screen shots. From what I could see, it is not clear whether MC completely *replaces* Gnome as one's desktop, or if it more like a sophisticated file manager that one can utilize while working on another DM like Gnome or KDE. ? Chuck What's the address of their site? I'm curious to see what you saw. mc (Midnight Commander) is a text-based file manager; as such, it certainly would not replace a gui desktop environment such as Gnome. A gui version of mc is gmc (Gnome Midnight Commander), but again, it's just a file manager, not a replacement for window manager/tools/etc. apt-cache show mc and apt-cache show gmc will give you more info. The gui version of mc is no longer part of GNU Midnight Commander. See http://www.ibiblio.org/mc/. Also, gmc is in stable but not in the testing distribution. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wanting to play .asx files
On Sat, Dec 27, 2003 at 05:40:10PM -0700, Scott Berry wrote: Can you please lead me to a web site or is this something that Debian has? I just did an apt-get install xine with no luck. apt-cache search xine Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Workbone - With Volume Control - How To Install?
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 01:24:46AM -0800, Scarletdown wrote: i just tried out the workbone CD player that is installable via apt-get. It's a decent console- based player, except for one problem. It has no volume control. I agree with your assessment of workbone as a decent console-based cd player but if you see lack of volume control as a problem there is always the option of installing a mixer program. To mention several packages: aumix is said to be a competent utility and mp3blaster can play cd's and comes with nmixer; I use alsamixer. All do rather more than control the sound volume of a cd. Anyway, I did a bit of snooping around and came across this: http://www.eleves.ens.fr/home/derouler/info/workbone/index.html.en That is the same player, but with the + and - keys set to provide volume control. Just tried this. The + key increases the volume but doesn't take the output to a very high level. Your experience may be different. I downloaded it and uncompressed it, but now, how do I actually install it? The files that are now sitting in my home directory after uncompressing the tgz file are: hardware.c workbone workbone.h struct.h workbone.c So, what does I have to do with these to get a working player? The site the tgz file was downloaded from has no instructions on how to install this. Install the file workbone somewhere in your home directory and run it from there. Or you could use /usr/local/bin. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Workbone - With Volume Control - How To Install?
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 02:18:09PM +, Brian Potkin wrote: To mention several packages: aumix is said to be a competent utility and mp3blaster can play cd's and comes with nmixer; Before everyone rushes off to download mp3blaster to play a cd I wish to own up to some unintentional misinformation. mp3blaster is an mp3 and ogg player. However, the package does include nmixer which does control the sound card. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: voice communication - windows w/ masquerade and debian w/ real IP
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 01:40:06PM -0500, Grzegorz B. Prokopski wrote: Hello! I badly need to communicate with a person that is using windows behind a masquerade of his ISP (which he doesn't control). My machine has routable IP address so theorhetically such a connection from windows machine to mine - would be possible. But what kind of software could be used for that? Sometime ago I used the great Gnome Meeting but it requires both sides to have a real IP or to use some proxies on gateways etc. which is not possible for the windows machine. [*] Any ideas how to get voice communication in such a setup? You could both try Speak Freely which has versions for both Linux and Windows. The Linux version handles NAT but I'm not sure what provision for NAT is made at the Windows end. The project page is at http://speak-freely.sourceforge.net/ This will lead you to http://www.fourmilab.ch/speakfree/ Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't connect with my new ADSL
On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 09:27:44AM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: Well, I got this far: pinging 10.0.0.2 worked, but I still could not connect to it with a browser. Connection cannot be established. From a previous post I thought you were having the router as 10.0.0.1, using the 'route add' command, and the interface as 10.0.0.2, using the 'ifconfig up' command. If that is the way you have set it up the above is pinging the interface, not the router. /sbin/ifconfig should have a second line for eth0 starting: inet addr:10.0.0.2 if 10.0.0.2 is the interface IP number. Should there be an entry in /etc/hosts? But what? Not necessary. As a matter of interest I have 192.168.7.2 localhost copernicus 192.168.7.1 router but that's only because I can do 'telnet router' and not have to remember the address. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't connect with my new ADSL
On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 12:56:13PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: Believe it or not, I've actually made some progress. Won't bore everyone with the details, but it included using a different cable and 10.0.0.1 to set it up followed by 10.0.0,2 to connect. 10.0.0.1 is the router? 10.0.0.2 the eth0 interface? However, it doesn't like any graphics browsers I've tried but I can access it with text browsers like lynx and w3m. The problem now is that I don't see where you are supposed to insert the username and password supplied by the ISP. You can change the passwords for both admin and user but these are presumably for accessing the web pages - or is that the same thing? So - you have managed to contact the router. Good. The web interfaces for routers differ but in general you have to give a password to alter any essential parameters which relate to connection. The default password should be in the documentation. It is generally something simple like 'adsl' or 'Mentor'. I suspect you'll be unable to progress further without it. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't connect with my new ADSL
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 11:31:26PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 10 Dec 2003, Antony Gelberg wrote: Please reply to the list in future. You type in http://10.0.0.2 where you would usually type the website name. (Website names generally can be exchanged for IP addresses, if you know the address.) A I tried this but no luck. The support people suggested installing dhcp, which I have done, and also tried: /sbin/ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.2 netmask 255.0.0.0 I think you might be better off with /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up 'up' is needed to activate the interface. and /sbin/route add default gw 10.0.0.1 Now issue this command and ping 10.0.0.1 (suggestions from uklinux support). But still nothing much seems to happen. I still couldn't connect via the browser. If pinging is successful you should now be able to connect with the browser and use your username and password to set up the ADSL link with BT. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wps -format?
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 02:25:05PM +0200, Kristian Niemi wrote: Hi, Got a file in WPS-format, which I'd of course like to open. I'm not quite sure if it's MS Works -format, or WordPerfect; I'm assuming it's MS Works. Anyway, I've tried digging through the net to find a converter/filter/progr. that could read the format. The 'answer' I've come up with is --- there is none. So I'm just checking with you now if this is really the case, or if anyone has had a similar problem and somehow managed to solve it. Sure, I *could* boot up Windows, install MS's Works - Word converter, but I don't want to. ;) I've been Windows-free for a while now, and would like to continue that way. Depends what you mean by 'open'. If it is only the text which is of importance to you then 'strings' (in the binutils package) will more than likely give you that. Interestingly, despite its name and package description, word2x is capable of producing formatted text from a .wps file. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scripting Manuals
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 04:47:39PM -0800, shawn wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 06:15:30PM -0600, Anil Gupte wrote: Where can I find some good scripting manuals that will teach me (a newbie) to write bash shell scripts? the advanced bash scripting guide (assumes no previous scripting experience). http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html And now a .deb available as 'abs-guide' in testing and unstable. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mailfilter bug?
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 07:43:42PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Since swen, I started using mailfiter with differing degrees of success. I tried to look at the basic docs and there is no explicit mention of the way the rules are evaluated. top down, bottom up, allow then deny, etc. Unless someone knows of docs i've missed, i'd say peek at the source. man mailfilterrc: ALLOW = expression DENY = expression SCORE value = expression man mailfilterex: Defining Friends If you think there is a lack of clarity in the documentation why not devise changes and propose them to the developers? Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mailfilter bug?
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 08:53:49PM +0800, Brian Walker wrote: I set up mailfilter in response to swen. I found that the ponly way to stop them was by limiting size. All other rules set in DENY or ALLOW seemed to be non-functional. In the end, I unset the size command, put a local rule for spamassassin in ~./spamassassin/user_preferences/local.cf for this: score MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE 10 Strange! As an example the rules (amongst others) DENY_CASE=^(FROM|^TO|SUBJECT) DENY_CASE=^(From|FROM):.*(MS) DENY=^From:.*(Microsoft) did an excellent job here. This was with REG_CASE=no and REG_TYPE=extended. Now then - why were the .mailfilterrc rules unable to screen the crap? You would have to reveal rather more information about what you had in your .mailfilterrc to get a useful answer. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mailfilter bug?
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 10:26:31AM +0800, csj wrote: Before I file a bug report, I'd like to confirm the behavior I describe below. I have in my my ~/.mailfilterrc a DENY rule for ^Subject:.*Test and ALLOW rules for marssociety and marssocietynewsletter: $ grep -Ei 'test|marssociety' ~/.mailfilterrc DENY=^Subject:.*Test ALLOW=^To:.*marssocietynewsletter ALLOW=^Reply-To:.*marssociety ALLOW=^Subject:.*marssociety I found out this morning that an email with the word Contest in the Subject was deleted by mailfilter (according to my log). The email also had [marssocietynewsletter] in the Subject and I suspect, given the format of previous communications, also marssociety in the Reply-To. The email therefore should have passed two of my ALLOW rules. Shouldn't the ALLOW rule (allow all emails with marssociety in the Subject) take precedence over the DENY rule (delete all emails containing with the word or word part test)? This is correct. An ALLOW rule takes absolute precedence over a DENY rule. This is the case even if you had both types of rules with the same regular expression. I've tested this with mailfilter 0.5.2 and the mail was not deleted. Your regular expressions look ok and the spelling is consistent. So is it a bug? The only time I had something like this happen to me it transpired that what was displayed on the screen was not what was in the header because it had been base 64 encoded. If you have previous emails examine them with a pager or text editor to see whether they are what you expect. Otherwise, contact the mailfilter mailing list. The author and others who are familiar with the inner workings of mailfilter are very responsive. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mailfilter bug?
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 01:21:12PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: I don't know much about mailfilter, but it seems as though the rules are being applied in the order encountered. You may need to move yoru DENY rule to a position after the ALLOW rules. Just a thought. It may look that way bu the order of the rules doesn't matter. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mailfilter bug?
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 10:26:31AM +0800, csj wrote: Before I file a bug report, I'd like to confirm the behavior I describe below. I have in my my ~/.mailfilterrc a DENY rule for ^Subject:.*Test and ALLOW rules for marssociety and marssocietynewsletter: $ grep -Ei 'test|marssociety' ~/.mailfilterrc DENY=^Subject:.*Test ALLOW=^To:.*marssocietynewsletter ALLOW=^Reply-To:.*marssociety ALLOW=^Subject:.*marssociety I found out this morning that an email with the word Contest in the Subject was deleted by mailfilter (according to my log). The email also had [marssocietynewsletter] in the Subject and I suspect, given the format of previous communications, also marssociety in the Reply-To. The email therefore should have passed two of my ALLOW rules. The log would also give the filter applied to delete the mail. What does it say? Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lynx vs xli
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 09:27:02PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Snip question about XFConfig-4 and modelines] According to what I've found in Google, bug 4918 has been fixed for years. But I can't get Lynx to recognize either XLOADIMAGE_COMMAND or VIEWER to change from ImageMagick to xli as the viewer. I've checked /etc/mime.types to verify that it's set correctly. I've made sure that Lynx is reading the correct config file. I don't know what to do next. You should be able to achieve this by altering either /etc/mailcap or $HOME/.mailcap and this is stated in /etc/lynx.cfg. Create .mailcap in your home directory if it does not exist and add to it the line: image/jpeg; xli '%s'; test=test -n $DISPLAY Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which package contains 'ripquery' tool?
On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 11:38:22AM +0800, Dasn Cups wrote: Hi,there I wanna try the 'ripquery',but I don't know where it is. I searched somewhere, and found that this tool should be in the 'gated' package, but Debian has no 'gated' package. Many thanks! Wherever the 'somewhere' was it cannot have been http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nslookup? What package is it in?
On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 10:36:24AM -0500, stan wrote: I tried apt-cache search, and the Debian package search page, and I can't seem to find nslookup. I've got it on most of my testingh boxes, but the one I'm building at the moment doesn't have it. For installed packages 'dpkg -S file_name' gives which package a file belongs to. At least five times quicker is 'dlocate -S file_name' but you'll need to get the dlocate .deb to benefit from this. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spam filter recommendation
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 01:15:26AM +1100, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2003 at 11:41:57PM +1100, Brendan J Simon said Which are the most accurate at detecting spam? This is a good question, and I've never seen a comparison of this. SA + some simple procmail rules catches basically all my spam. On freshmeat.net there is an article comparing some spam filters but just at present the link serves up a blank page. The author also has it published at http://sam.holden.id.au/writings/. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 09:11:44AM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote: If you add set pop_host=pop.gmx.net, set pop_user=xxx and set pop_pass= to your .muttrc then mutt -f pop:// will connect without typeing so much. :-) Additionally, within a running mutt, you could choose to activate a macro and almost completely eliminate typing by adding these lines to ~/.muttrc: macro browser f8 c pop://pop.gmx.netenter macro index f8 c pop://pop.gmx.netenter macro pager f8 c pop://pop.gmx.netenter This works in version 1.5.4-1 (testing) as well Ditto Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 01:14:38AM +0200, David Jardine wrote: It is beyond my capability (but only slightly, I feel, and it should be very easy for lots of people here) to produce a sort of interactive fetchmail that reads the headers of each message on the server, presents them to you and asks if you want to fetch the message or delete it. This is what I would like to have. 1. apt-get install popcheck. 2. Add the following line to your ~/.fetchmailrc: preconnect popcheck -s pop3server -u pop3user -p pop3password 3. Run fetchmail. 4. Use 'Q', 'S' or 'D' as appropriate. Not tested extensively but it works, is interactive and gives you the From: header, the subject line and size of the email. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: simply mutt (Re: Mutt with evolution)
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 11:50:58AM +0530, Ashish Ariga wrote: I am still having some problems getting mutt to work. 1. Periodic checking for pop mail (fetch-mail) doesn't work in spite of pop_* being set. Should I set spoolfile to pop:// instead ? Your spool file should be /var/mail/yourusername and mutt looks there by default. Execute 'echo $MAIL' to check its location. You do not want to use mutt's spoolfile variable set to anything else. Read section 6.3.240 of the mutt manual. If you really want to use mutt's fetch-mail function to fetch your mail and put it in $MAIL it should be sufficient for you to put the following in your $HOME/.muttrc: set pop_host=your_pop3_server set pop_pass=your_password_on_the_server set pop_user=your_username_on_the_server Do not forget to restart mutt for these to take effect. 2. Specifying filters for incoming mail like if msg body has text XYZ, then delete the msg if msg is from mailing list ABC, move to folder ABC I'm guessing I need to use score, but I am not sure how. For filtering mail you are better off looking at using procmail. While I'm not certain what 'score' could be used for it doesn't appear to be suitable for what you want to do. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: simply mutt (Re: Mutt with evolution)
On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 09:55:35PM +0530, Ashish Ariga wrote: On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 04:52:40PM +0100, duck wrote: Alternatively you could bind the f12 key to fetchmail as I have: macro index f12 !fetchmail\n It is already bound to G in mutt. I was hoping it would do it periodically... There is little confusion here. You have in mind the fetch-mail function, which is mutt's rudimentary way of collecting mail from a pop3 server, whereas duck is referring to fetchmail, a far more sophisticated program for the same task. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt with evolution
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 04:31:01PM +0530, Ashish Ariga wrote: Hi, Today is the first time I typed the words mutt. I have been using Evolution all along. I'm having a hard time reading the manual. I would like to know if it is possible for mutt to use the mail boxes of Evolution. Reading the section 'Mailbox Formats' in the mutt manual should help. If you have Evolution using, for example, mbox type mailboxes I would expect mutt to be able to read them. For a few months I would like to use mutt remotely. But when I get back, I would like to have all the mails in Evolution. http://www.ximian.com/support or perhaps /usr/share/doc/evolution. Also, is the VFolder feature of Evolution available in mutt ? Not to my knowledge. Try Google with vfolder and mutt. Looks like the Debian package mairix may help. Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT]: launch a file from mc?
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 11:31:00AM -0400, Matt Price wrote: anyone know if it's possible to launch an external program from mc? For instance, I'd like to get mc to launch openoffice when I double-lick or press return on a .sxw file. Is there a way to do this? /etc/mc/mc.ext is the place to look. My copy indicates that mc should do exactly what you want when the return key is pressed. Not having OpenOffice on this machine means I can not test it so if it doesn't work for you have a read of man mc and try customising a ~/.mc/bindings file. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: BT Broadband - which ADSL modem?
On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 01:45:16PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 11:15:35PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: I have combined the modem and firewall by installing a Bewan adsl card, which has Linux support: http://www.bewan.com/bewan/products/adsl/bwadslpcist.php Cheers for that - it looks rather nice. Hope you don't mind if I ask a couple of questions. Are there any issues with it being internal, as with winmodems? Does it steal much cpu (I hope to put this in a P60)? Have you looked at http://www.linuxdsl.co.uk yet? I can not imagine the card places much load on the cpu although it possibly has more latency than a dedicated router from what I have read. The PDF techspec says standard ATM driver - does this take much figuring out? Is it a kernel configuration issue? The gentlemen at http://www.linuxdsl.co.uk have what looks like a good installation guide. If you intend going with Debian may I recommend kernel-package as a way to compile the kernel you will require. What spec PC do you have it in, and how many other NICs are there in it? Does it provide any other services? How loaded does it get? You have implied that you intend having the machine as a dedicated router/firewall so, as I understand it, security considerations would mean you would not be providing any other services on that machine. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: BT Broadband - which ADSL modem?
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 05:21:51PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote: After a couple of years of um-ing and ah-ing, my dad's finally got round to installing broadband. Specifically, BT broadband (here in the uk). He's asked me to slip in a 486 class router/firewall inbetween his Windows machines and the ADSL modem, so I'd much rather go with a modem that has RJ45 (ethernet) connections over any USB-type port. I have my doubts whether you'll find anything other than USB or PCI modems. There is also the question of drivers for Linux; apparently they exist for the Alcatel Speedtouch USB but PCI cards do not seem to be particularily Linux friendly. I'm sure there are some debian users out there who can help me make this choice - An ADSL router with a builtin hub is, in my opinion, a better choice of equipment as it can be used with any OS, is easy to set up with Linux, works with any ISP and there is often some degree of firewalling in the router. Which ADSL modem o has an ethernet port o works with BT broadband o offers most bang per buck where bang/buck is measured ... however you want. The baseline is get connected, but I'd be interested to hear any other pluses that different models provide. So - any thoughts? Google will give you much on the topic of routers and modems. Try searching with the terms uk.comp.os.linux and adsl modem for some good discussions on ADSL in the UK. A decent source for modems/routers can be found at http://www.solwise.co.uk Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: BT Broadband - which ADSL modem?
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 11:15:35PM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote: I have combined the modem and firewall by installing a Bewan adsl card, which has Linux support: http://www.bewan.com/bewan/products/adsl/bwadslpcist.php There is also enthusiastic support for this card and the opportunity to purchase it at http://www.linuxdsl.co.uk/. I would have some reservations about what would happen it the manufacturer ceased to maintain support for Linux or future kernels caused problems with the module loaded. Also, for about 10 GBP more than the price of the Bewan you can get a very capable modem/router. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound capture via fake driver
On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 09:23:15PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 07:57:57AM +0800, csj wrote: Why not try mplayer? Because it doesn't work well with streaming stuff in general and never with RealAudio, on my system. If the url's plain http://, wget. Will wget work with rtsp streams? No. http, https and ftp protocols only. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Javascript-enabled text-mode browser
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 11:03:12PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've ditched X-based browsers for most of my surfing needs. The only time I find them really useful is when I need to google for pictures *and* when I must navigate Javascript- enabled (or should I say disabled) sites. The only text-mode browser I could find that can handle or at least claim to handle Javascript is netrik. But it doesn't do a particularly good job in rendering HTML ATM. So does anybody know of any other text-mode browsers out there in the wild that can handle Javascript? Having seen the power of w3m's text-mode tabbed browsing, I would like to do all of my browsing from the console. (A text-mode front-end to the Mozilla-rendering engine would be real neat.) You may be interested in the contents of http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200308/msg01875.html The JavaScript version of links it refers to worked to some extent for me but it didn't handle well parts of some sites I visit. Not knowing much about JavaScript left me undecided as to whether it was the software or the site. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is the format of a mailboxfile?
On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 06:33:39PM +0200, Jimmy Johansson wrote: Hello all, I am trying to create a mailboxfile in /var/mail/ and I am just wondering what the format for such a file is and how you create one. I am not even sure if it is supposed to be a special kind of file or if it is a special kind of directory. I've tried reading a linuxbook, Running Linux more precisly, but I could not find anything in it that I could apply... I am running Woody and my MTA is exim. I think exim automatically creates the /var/mail/$user file and handles the permissions on it so there should be no need for you to create it yourself. The file creation takes place when mail arrives for $user. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto get one (1) file from an rpm ???
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 05:09:45PM -0500, Michael D Schleif wrote: First, I need to know -- for certain -- whether or not the file I am looking for is inside the RPM's that I have. Midnight Commander can do this quite easily. Highlight the file and press enter to see its contents. Second, how can I extract that one (1) file from the RPM? Use F5. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any VOIP or something like Netmeeting(tm) or voice applications for debian?
On Sat, Aug 09, 2003 at 10:01:48PM -0400, J F wrote: Any VOIP or something like Netmeeting(tm of Microsoft, Inc) or voice applications for debian? I would like to talk to my friend over the internet using debian. Any recommended applications? speak-freely is an internet telephone application which I have found to function well. There is also a Windows version should your friend be using that operating system. Note that the Debian package only supports half-duplex operation but you can easily get full-duplex by compiling from the source. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get -d is cool, but now to install them
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 05:33:43PM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: The apt-get --download-only is neat, but what about now later when you want to install them? No single command to then install all you've recently downloaded, without editing each history entry or scanning ctimes of files in /var/cache/apt/archives/? I frequently use the -d option with, say, 'apt-get dist-upgrade' or 'apt-get install'. It can give you the opportunity to look at changelog.Debian or any other part of a package before installing it. To install a single package or group of packages simply use apt-get without -d and it will get what is needed from /var/cache/apt/archives/. However, if you have done an update of the package list in the meantime any newer versions of the packages will be downloaded from your usual sources and installed immediately. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: books-manuals
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 05:01:15PM +0100, Tiago Cunha wrote: Hy debian users A question from a beginner. Any recomendations on a good Debian-linux guide, with administration tools and basic setups?? Tiago, as a beginner you could not go far wrong in making your way to www.debian.org (or www.uk.debian.org if you feel like saving a bit of transatlantic bandwidth) and following the hard to miss documentation link. I cannot understand why it was not the first site you looked at. As for a recomendation a lot of hard work has gone into the Debian Reference and you are sure to find it enlightening. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to view FAX in M$ generated .FXO format
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 11:23:48AM -0400, Lance Heller wrote: How can a FAX generated by a M$ product as a .FXO file be viewed. Imagemagick, netpbm, and OpenOffice1.1 don't appear to handle it. You could run 'file whatever.fxo' and see whether it is encoded as a group 3 or group 4 fax file. Then download the mgetty-viewfax package to use viewfax. It's a better application for viewing faxes than the ones you have tried anyway. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: First mail from my Linux
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 11:20:58AM +, Jianan Huang wrote: Hi folks, [Questions 1, 2 and 4 snipped] 3) Font size of characters in text windows such as Bash, Xterm etc. are too small. How to adjust them ? As far as an Xterm is concerned you could create (if it does not already exist) $HOME/.Xresources and put in it a line like XTerm*font: 10x20 Either restart X or do 'xrdb -merge .Xresources' to have this take effect. I think the fonts available to use may be found in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc if you prefer something other than 10x20. Also do a search on Google as you are likely to find a fair bit of information on this topic there. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ? about browser's talk
On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 11:25:02PM -0700, John Joe wrote: do you know how to monitor browser's talk with the server? i mean is there any Linux tool that can cpature that sesstion? netcat is a Debian package and includes the abilty to do what you want. There is also HttpSniffer, a perl script, which can be found at http://www.schmerg.com/ Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gv ps.bz2 instead of ps.gz
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 04:27:07PM +0200, Lukas Ruf wrote: is it possible to configure gv such that it supports bzip2-compressed postscript files in addition to gzip-compressed ones? Google is amazing and good fun. Using 'gv' and 'bzip2-compressed' as the search terms comes up with two methods. Patch the source or use Thomas Hertweck's bgv script. I've just tried the script. It worked for me with a couple of bzipped ps and pdf files. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: console cursor
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 05:41:57PM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote: * Brian Potkin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030611 16:25]: echo -e '\033[?17;0;64c' which I tested and there is now a nice magenta block cursor on one of my virtual consoles. If in your reading you come across how I could get back to my original underline cursor - please let me know! type 'reset' Thanks. 'reset' had slipped my mind at the time. Which, considering I'd used it recently and it's so much easier to remember than the previous command, is a sign of my deteriorating memory. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: console cursor
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 04:44:57PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote: this should be a really easy question, but i can't find the answer anywhere. how do i turn on the (big block) cursor in console mode? right now there's nothing, making it really hard to see where i am when i'm typing :) You can enable this facility in the kernel.Search for `cursor' in Documentation/Configure.help of the kernel source directory. Or install svgatextmode, which has a configuration option to allow a block cursor with a variable size. Or search Google groups with blockcursorlinux. This gave me the command echo -e '\033[?17;0;64c' which I tested and there is now a nice magenta block cursor on one of my virtual consoles. If in your reading you come across how I could get back to my original underline cursor - please let me know! Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: package names don't match?
On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 11:49:32AM -0400, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: I'm trying to install opera but get the following error: [Error messages snipped] Other than complain to Opera, is there anything I can do to resolve this dependency? You could purge libqt3c102-mt, which may remove other other packages, and download and install libqt3 and libqt3-mt from stable. Alternatively you may be happy with the suggested static deb for Opera. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bogofilter configuration
On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 12:04:31AM -0500, Kevin McKinley wrote: Until now I've been wearing out the delete key going through my inbox. I finally decided to do something about it, and installed bogofilter. When I looked at /etc/bogofilter.cf, I noticed that every line is commented out. Is this a workable configuration? At the top of /etc/bogofilter.cf it states: `Non-comment lines of bogofilter.cf.example show default settings as used in the bogofilter source code.' Now bogofilter's maintainer has taken bogofilter.cf.example and copied it to /etc/bogofilter.cf, at the same time inserting # at the beginning of each line. I would assume this would have no effect on the default settings (lines commencing with a single #) as they are in the source code and the binary is compiled using them. So you have a workable configuration without having to alter this file. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Realplayer seg.fault
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 12:24:00PM +1100, Russell Shaw wrote: Hi all, I downloaded and ran the realplayer binary: rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2.bin. It gets thru the installation and registration process, runs for a second, then seg.faults: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ./rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2.bin Segmentation fault I am in the audio group. What sound infrastructure do i need installed? You might be better off getting the rpm version of the binary and installing it using the realplayer deb which you will find at http://marillat.free.fr/ This worked for me when the package was last included in Debian. Are there any alternatives to play realplayer .ram streaming audio, or .asx windows media player streaming audio? mplayer does both. You can get it via the previous URL. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Realplayer seg.fault
On Sun, Mar 16, 2003 at 05:43:20PM -0800, nate wrote: what version of debian? Realplayer 8 works fine for me on 2 different woody machines. perhaps its a new glibc/new gcc issue causing the problems... With the new glibc on the testing distribution Realplayer 8 works ok for me so this may not be the problem. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changing the fixed font
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 11:31:54AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: terminals in X usually use the 'fixed' font (correct me if I am wrong). this is 7x14 over here. how would i go about if i wanted the fixed font to be 6x9 instead? i know that i could start the terminals and everything with -fn6x9, but i would prefer a more global solution. My .Xresources has XTerm*font:10x20 in it. Would this fit your required global solution? Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changing the fixed font
On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 03:47:40PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: but this brings up a different issue. all my Gtk apps use fonts that are too big, so they run over the buttons and such. where can i control that? You could try putting a font setting in ~/.gtkrc under `style default'. I have fontset=-*-*-medium-r-normal--20-*-*-*-c-*-*-* I am not well up with gtk so there may be better solutions. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lyx package recommends sgml-tools, but...
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 10:07:53PM -0500, David Z Maze wrote:
Brian Potkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
/usr/share/doc/tetex-doc/texmf is your rather overwhelming starting
point. Diving into latex/general gets you what you want.
You can use the 'texdoc' tool to conveniently read a file in this
tree. For a good beginner's reference, I'd recommend The Not So
Short Introduction to LaTeX2e ('texdoc lshort').
texdoc is fine when the exact file name is known, which would imply a
familiarisation with what is available. Who would guess that `texdoc
user' is what you need to read documentation about the babel package?
Exploring tex's range of documentation is made more convenient with
texdoctk. It is available on Debian but does require X.
Brian.
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Re: Lyx package recommends sgml-tools, but...
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 09:59:39AM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote: I just downloaded and installed Lyx using aptitude on a Sarge system. The package recommends also installing 'sgml-tools' which, from its name, sounds like a good idea, but the search function in aptitude cannot find a package of that name. Where might I find it? A small point but Lyx suggests rather than recommends sgml-tools. I'm unfamiliar with aptitude but it is a little surprising it does not give a similar output to `dpkg -l sgml-tools', `apt-cache search sgml-tools' or a package search on Debian's web page. bash-2.05b$ apt-cache search sgml-tools linuxdoc-tools - SGML converters for the LinuxDoc DTD only. sgml-tools - Replaced by linuxdoc-tools (dummy package for upgrade) Also, I am a beginner at TeX, LaTeX, etc. Please recommend tutorials, and 'getting started' documentation. /usr/share/doc/tetex-doc/texmf is your rather overwhelming starting point. Diving into latex/general gets you what you want. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lyx package recommends sgml-tools, but...
On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 05:14:58PM -0500, Travis Crump wrote: pretzalz@Pretzalz:~$ apt-cache search sgml-tools linuxdoc-tools - SGML converters for the LinuxDoc DTD only. What distro are you using, I can't find the dummy package in either testing or unstable so presumably it no longer exists. It is probably a bug against lyx that it suggests a package that doesn't exist. @OP: You want to install linuxdoc-tools in lieu of sgml-tools, though I am sure you already figured that out. ;) I'm running testing and you're correct, the dummy package is only in stable. I assume that when this machine went from stable to testing it pulled in linuxdoc-tools but for some reason or other sgml-tools was not completely purged. It was in the database as an obsolete package so that probably accounts for the output I got from apt-cache search. Anyway, I've just purged it and now have the same as your line above. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get debconf
On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 02:08:56PM +0100, Florian Sukup wrote: Hi, just a question, I couldn't find an answer, yet. If I use apt-get install package_name , is this package automatically configured by debconf. If you're interested in whether a package depends on debconf prior to installing it either of dpkg -s package name | grep debconf apt-cache show package name | grep debconf will give you the information. Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get debconf
On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 02:43:04PM +, Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 02:29:00PM +, Brian Potkin wrote: dpkg -s package name | grep debconf apt-cache show package name | grep debconf Probably 'dpkg -p' instead; 'dpkg -s' only shows minimal information for packages that aren't installed yet, not including dependencies. Thanks for the correction. I should really have used the dpkg manual to refresh my memory. (And remembered to have tested the command on an uninstalled package!) Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux config question: dates don't display year?
On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 09:34:49AM -0800, Paul Mackinney wrote: OT disclaimer... what controls the standard date abbreviation? On some Linux systems 'ls -l' displays the year, on others it doesn't. 'finger' duplicates the behavior, so it appears to be some heinous system-wide setting. A search of newsgroups using the keywords ls -l, date and time will provide better explanations than I can give. Adding six months would narrow down the search. BTW: I've found the --full-time option for ls, but still want to know how to set default behavior. How about an alias in your .bashrc? alias ls=/bin/ls --full-time. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Demon's (isp) debian mirror
On Sat, Dec 07, 2002 at 03:06:07PM +, Jeff Penn wrote: My closest mirror is my ISP (Demon), but it has taken some time for the mirror to update since Woody was released. Is it worthwhile changing my sources now, or are these problems not unusual for this site? I've used www.mirror.ac.uk, which is on the Janet network, for a number of years now. No real problems with this site and it is appears to be updated every day. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: binary files
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 10:09:05AM -0800, David and Dana Evans wrote: I know now how to install a whatever.tar.gz file but how do I install a whatever.bin file? Please help I've been reading and reading and can't find the answer. Thanks Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] A newsgroup search on Google is always worthwhile. I've just tried one with the keywords file,.bin and linux. The first ten entries look promising. You'll have to look at the remaining 352,990 for yourself. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: binary files
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 10:09:05AM -0800, David and Dana Evans wrote: I know now how to install a whatever.tar.gz file but how do I install a whatever.bin file? As an alternative to the useful tip you already have on making the file executable you could also try unzip whatever.bin Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: need some help on lynx
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 12:00:54PM +0530, Sandip P Deshmukh wrote: hello all this is something i have tried to do but could not. typically, every day, i go to google. go to google news. switch to text mode. all this is done by way of links provided on the page. once in the text mode news, i type in the same query in the space provided. i wanted to know if i can automate the whole thing or at least the last typing a query part of it. may be i can store the query in a text file and be done. there is an 's' option in lynx but i did not understand it much. 1. Save the html source for http://news.google.com/ to a file. 2. Open the file in a text editor. 3. Locate the line beginning input type=text name=q ... 4. Replace value= with value=my frequent query. 5. Remove unwanted material from the file (optional). 5. Save the file and bookmark it. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GV full screen
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 12:10:54PM +0200, Egor Tur wrote: Hi Folk. I want to use gv with full screen without panel ans menu. How can I do this? Is it possible? Does anybody have an idea on how to resolve this little problem? I am not sure that what you want is entirely possible to achieve. Look at the -spartan and screenSize options in man gv and the documentation in /usr/share/doc. What is there last version of gv on free access? Thanx. The version I have is 3.5.8 from the testing distribution. Hasn't gv always been free software? Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: so how do the pros read all those .gz docs, zless?
On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 08:13:42AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: Lots of /usr/share/doc's are in .gz format. What does Joe Average do to read them, zcat, zless, etc. over and over? (Nifty me of course uses emacs' dired's v with auto-compression-mode on. Seems to be ideal. However then one encounters patches of HTML docs, which seem best suited for galeon, mozilla, not w3...) There are also pdf and dvi documents to consider. The mime-support package, which I imagine is installed on your system, contains run-mailcap. Invoking it as `see' you'll be able to view a doc with a program determined from the entries in the mime.types and mailcap files in /etc. Personally, I customise ~/.mailcap with viewing programs of my choice. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: so how do the pros read all those .gz docs, zless?
On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 08:08:25PM +1000, Matt Chipman wrote: Just install mc and browse to the docs dir and press F3 ya cant live without it :) I have mc running permanently on one virtual terminal and use it frequently so I wouldn't dream of challenging your second statement. Pressing F3 invokes the internal file viewer (if it is enabled via the Options menu) which is fine for text files, not wonderful for html and definitely of limited use with dvi files. Highlighting the file and pressing enter is much more useful for me as it displays html and dvi files with either lynx or dvisvga respectively. It works this magic via /etc/mc/mc.ext which uses run-mailcap to determine which viewer you want for a particular file type. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian book for complete newbie?
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 04:42:45AM -0230, Michael D. Crawford wrote: I'm only going to be here for a month, and while I can do the installation and teach Bruce the basics, I think it would be very helpful to get Bruce a printed book. The online doc only works if you know enough about Linux to find it and use the whatever tool is required to read it. May I suggest you download and install some online documentation for your friend after you have set up Debian for him. That way he will not have to search for it. Much online documentation is in html format so only a browser is necessary to read it locally. gv would suitable if he prefers to view or print the pdf versions often provided. Some Debian specific links: http://edm.act.cmis.csiro.au/debian/debtopics/ http://qref.sourceforge.net/ http://teleport.medri.hr/~docelic/debguide/hands-on-debian-guide.html http://www.polaris.net/~dwarf/ There is Debian package of the last one. Though not specifically directed towards Debian The Linux Newbie Administrator Guide and The Linux Cookbook both have a lot of basic material explained in them and are good reads. http://sunsite.dk/linux-newbie/index.htm http://www.dsl.org/cookbook/ The second book is packaged for Debian. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apt-get problem
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 04:22:55PM -0700, curtis wrote: sources.list deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian woody main non-free contrib deb-src ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ woody main non-free contrib ^ deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://www.mx1.ru/~chris/openoffice unstable main contrib deb-src http://www.mx1.ru/~chris/openoffice unstable main contrib deb http://mplayer.nmeos.net testing/ deb http://marillat.free.fr/ testing main ^ deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free ^ You shouldn't have a slash at the end of a URI. See man sources.list. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple questions
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 05:05:00PM -0700, Brian Dessent wrote: 1. What package includes 'dpkg-reconfigure'? I have the man pages for this command but not the binary. I seem to have all the other dpkg commands. copernicus:$ dpkg -S dpkg-reconfigure debconf: /usr/share/man/pt_BR/man8/dpkg-reconfigure.8.gz debconf: /usr/share/man/man8/dpkg-reconfigure.8.gz debconf: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure trixie:~ find /usr/bin -name '*dpkg*' As you see debconf has dpkg-reconfigure in /usr/sbin. `locate *dpkg*' is probably better than using find in this case. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: persistent cookies in debian
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 06:48:46PM -0500, Cheryl Homiak wrote: I sent this question sometime last month but didn't see any replies. I don't know whether i didn't see the replies, nobody had an answer, or I asked a really dumb question. But dumb or not, I still don't have an answer so thought I'd try again. There was one reply. Google or the Debian mail archives will have it. It doesn't address your problem directly I would say. I am trying to set up persistent cookies with lynx. I am accepting all cookies and have persistent_cookies set to true and my cookie file is supposed to be ~/.lynx_cookies. I've also done a search for any such file on my system. I can't find a cookie file anywhere and persistent_cookies isn't working. Yet I'm not having any trouble on sites that involve your allowing cookies, like some of the urls at yahoogroups.com. Am I missing something I need to be doing? Is the debian package of lynx-ssl compiled with exp_persistent_cookies? TIA. EXP_PERSISTENT_COOKIES is compiled in for my version of lynx-ssl. You can determine whether it is or not for your copy by accessing the options menu with `o' and following the `Check your lynx.cfg' link. The default cookie file is indeed ~/.lynx_cookies. Having accepted a persistent cookie lynx will create that file and write to it only when you exit the program. The file is not created or written to by session cookies so it could be you have not encountered a persistent cookie. Alternatively, it may be that COOKIE_FILE is set to something other than ~/.lynx_cookies. It may also be worth checking ~/.lynxrc if it exists. The cookie_file option in there overrides what is in /etc/lynx.cfg or your personal lynx.cfg. Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help!!! undelete for ext3fs!!!
On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 09:22:14PM +0100, Paul Seelig wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Potkin) writes: The man page for Midnight Commander claims that undeletion is possible only with an ext2 file system. Your suggestion to explore whether it would deal with ext3 is reasonable but doesn't mc use debugfs which is designed for an ext2 file system? Writing from the perspective of an up to date Debian/unstable system only (i really can't be bothered with this rotten potato anymore): debugfs is part of the e2fsprogs package which in turn is ext3-aware. I took what the man page for mc said at face value and didn't dig any further to look in detail at the e2fsprogs documentation. Thanks for the correction; it gives me some incentive to make an ext3 partition and test how debugfs deals with deleted files on it. I was aware that Midnight Commander has the facility you describe so I used it. It told me it was `loading deleted files information' and was still going strong after an hour. I went to bed, dreamt of inodes, got up and there it was still churning away. Having become curious after writing my message, i tried this as well on an ext3 filesystem with similar effect. But i was not patient enough to stand the procedure for more than an hour... ;-) This behaviour appears to be a bug in mc and has been reported in bug report #121917. Now that partition only has about 50M of free space so I suspect there is insufficient room to write the undeleted files to it. Even if you wanted to, you simply couldn't and you better wouldn't, even if you could because you wouldn't want to use those unlinked inodes to be overwritten by restoring your files. The last time i succesfully undeleted using MC (almost two years ago) i tried this and the undeletion routine refused writing data onto the same partition. A couple of hours after making this statement it struck me that writing to an unmounted partition is not likely to succeed. A way to direct the file listing somewhere else would be useful. What should this be good for? Not much! Basically, I was having difficulty understanding mc's behaviour and not having used it for this purpose before I made the mistake of assuming it was copying the files and required room to write them out somewhere. Brian.
Re: Help!!! undelete for ext3fs!!!
On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 08:38:05PM +0100, Paul Seelig wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 11:42:36PM -0600, Cheryl Homiak wrote: I just deleted something I didn't want to delete; won't hurt my system, just destroyed some important records I was keeping. *Immediately* unmount the partition holding this data! With *immediately* i mean *IMMEDIATELY!*, or better put, RIGHT *NOW*! An now let's just calm down to be able to think for a minute. A few days ago my fingers typed the command `apt-get clean'. What my brain intended was `apt-get autoclean'. Fortunately, I keep package files on a separate ext2 partition so unmounting it was quick and easy. I realise the deleted data are replaceable but 400M+ takes a long time to download on a modem link so I took the opportunity to have a look at how easy or hard it was to recover the files. If I failed to get them back it wouldn't be disastrous but it was annoying to have made a mistake with a command I was familiar with. Is there any way to undelete in ext3fs? Since this is compatible with ext2, ext2 undeletion should be possible. Now you have the possibility to find out yourself and tell us whether this worked or not. The man page for Midnight Commander claims that undeletion is possible only with an ext2 file system. Your suggestion to explore whether it would deal with ext3 is reasonable but doesn't mc use debugfs which is designed for an ext2 file system? There is a comfortable way for undeletion using the GNU Midnight Commander, /usr/bin/mc. If you have it installed, then start it up, press F9 and choose Command | Undelete files (ext2fs only). Enter the device file name without the leading /dev/ of the (hopefully unmounted!) partition containing the deleted files and wait a few minutes until the panel contains a listing of deleted files. Depending on size of the partition in question, this can take up a considerable amount of time. So please be patient even if this takes half an hour or even far more. I was aware that Midnight Commander has the facility you describe so I used it. It told me it was `loading deleted files information' and was still going strong after an hour. I went to bed, dreamt of inodes, got up and there it was still churning away. Now that partition only has about 50M of free space so I suspect there is insufficient room to write the undeleted files to it. A way to direct the file listing somewhere else would be useful. The files in the resulting list don't carry names anymore and the shown names are probably mere inode numbers(?) or similar. Check which file(s) might contain the data in question and copy this file into a directory located on *another* partition. Imagine a lot of .deb files. Imagine having to rename them correctly! The tedium involved, however, is very much offset by the pleasure of recovering them. And if you've been able to save your data: Rejoice! Eventually I used the recover package from the testing distribution. You can select deleted files by date and time of deletion and dump them to a directory on another partition. It was also quite quick. Having read about the difficulty of undeleting files on unix systems I found the performance of this program impressive. [Snip good advice on backups] Brian.
