[solved] Re: Audio from browsers correctly routed (2 audio cards, same box)

[Bruno Buys]

On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 1:17 AM, Bruno Buys  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I just configured a multiseat computer (
> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Multiseat_configuration)
> using my squeeze machine and help from the pt-debian-users list. Very nice,
> now I can share it with my wife. Everything is working ok, except for one
> detail: I have no idea how to route audio from browsers (ffox and chrome
> playing youtube, for example) to my wife's usb audio dongle. In order to get
> audio separated to both of us, I got an audio dongle with mic and line out
> jacks. With mplayer and vlc playing multimedia files I can get audio routed
> correctly to the dongle. So this is not a driver-hardware-kernel question.
> The dongle is ok, I just need to figure out how to tell the browsers to use
> the dongle, not the onboard audio.
> Vlc and mplayer have extensive configuration options, and it was easy to
> choose. But browsers seem to offer less choice for configuring. I searched
> about:config in ffox, no good. Chrome doesn't even have one.
>
> lspci | grep -i audio
>
> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition
> Audio Controller (rev 01)
>
> lsusb | grep -i audio
>
> Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0d8c:000c C-Media Electronics, Inc. Audio Adapter
>
> Thanks for any inputs,
>
>
> Bruno
>


Thanks, Camaléon,
Your link did the trick.


Bruno

Audio from browsers correctly routed (2 audio cards, same box)

[Bruno Buys]

Hi all,
I just configured a multiseat computer (
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Multiseat_configuration)
using my squeeze machine and help from the pt-debian-users list. Very nice,
now I can share it with my wife. Everything is working ok, except for one
detail: I have no idea how to route audio from browsers (ffox and chrome
playing youtube, for example) to my wife's usb audio dongle. In order to get
audio separated to both of us, I got an audio dongle with mic and line out
jacks. With mplayer and vlc playing multimedia files I can get audio routed
correctly to the dongle. So this is not a driver-hardware-kernel question.
The dongle is ok, I just need to figure out how to tell the browsers to use
the dongle, not the onboard audio.
Vlc and mplayer have extensive configuration options, and it was easy to
choose. But browsers seem to offer less choice for configuring. I searched
about:config in ffox, no good. Chrome doesn't even have one.

lspci | grep -i audio

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition
Audio Controller (rev 01)

lsusb | grep -i audio

Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0d8c:000c C-Media Electronics, Inc. Audio Adapter

Thanks for any inputs,


Bruno

Slow video on debian sid

[Bruno Buys]

I don't know exactly when this started, but my debian notebook is slow
on changing screens and programs. I alt+tab to switch programs and the
screen takes a while to rebuild. I mean, its not like its obviously
broken or buggy, but its enough to annoy. I use kde, and noticed
non-kde programs do this more than kde programs. Switching back to
konqueror is ok, switching to iceweasel or icedove takes a moment.
Switching to openoffice does take a moment. Sometimes I release
alt+tab but the window menu list keeps showing in the screen, needs an
extra 'tab' to go away.
System is an updated debian sid, in an Acer 5570z, 1.73GHz Pentium
dual core T2080, 2GB mem. Video card is Intel950, xorg driver is
'intel'. 128MB video memory set in the bios. Its got the 3D accel
working ok, I can do googleearth and compiz, etc. But the real problem
is indeed switching programs. xorg.conf goes below.
Thanks for any input!



[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
# xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "Module"

Load "glx"
Load "dri"

EndSection

Section "DRI"

Mode 0666

EndSection


Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
Driver  "kbd"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xorg"
Option  "XkbModel"  "abnt2"
Option  "XkbLayout" "br"
Option  "XkbVariant""abnt2"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Synaptics Touchpad"
Driver  "synaptics"
Option  "SendCoreEvents""true"
Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
Option  "Protocol"  "auto-dev"
Option  "HorizScrollDelta"  "0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "intel950"
Driver  "intel"
   BusID   "PCI:0:2:0"
   VideoRam128000
Option  "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"
Option  "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "Monitor Generico"
Option  "DPMS"
HorizSync   28-84
VertRefresh 43-60

EndSection

#Section "Monitor"
#   Identifier  "Flatron"
#   Option  "DPMS"
#   HorizSync   30-83
#   VertRefresh 56-75
#EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Default Screen"
Device  "intel950"
Monitor "Monitor Generico"
#   Monitor "Flatron"
DefaultDepth24
SubSection "Display"
#   Modes   "1680x1050" "1280x960"
EndSubSection
EndSection


Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier  "Default Layout"
Screen  "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad"
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
 Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection





PS:
To comply with the lists rules, I must say I don't subscribe to it.


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Re: Re: Re: help installing to this machine?

[Bruno Buys]

>
> ***
> I don't know if your problem is similar to mine. Are you installing from a
> IDE CD drive?
> ***
>
>
The drive is sata.

Re: Re: Re: help installing to this machine?

[Bruno Buys]

***
My motherboard isn't the exactly same (it was a Intel P5KSE) but it has very
similar characteristics (lots of sata ports, same IDE channels) except a
different chipset. My problem was with a marvell chip that handles the IDE
channels that hasn't a ahci mode.
***

So, ahci is indeed the way to go? We tried that, but with the cd install.
Didn´t go further, but as we are trying with the usb stick, shall we use
ahci?

***
I don't know if your problem is similar to mine. Are you installing from a
IDE CD drive?
***

Not sure. I´ll figure that.

***
I remember installing from USB was easy - I mean it was very similar to a CD
install.
The images are here: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

***

Good to know. What arch you used? Only one more thing: i didn´t find the usb
stick images in the link you pointed above. They lead to here, but no usb
stick images.
http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/daily/
http://people.debian.org/~aba/d-i/images/daily/


Thanks for your support!


Bruno

Re: Re: help installing to this machine?

[Bruno Buys]

Thanks, Joseph,
Was that the same hardware? My problem seem to be related to the
motherboard. Other people reported good results with the cpu.

help installing to this machine?

[Bruno Buys]

Hi all,
I am helping my friend install debian in this machine:

CPU Intel Q6600 -   CORE2 QUAD Q6600 1066 Mhz 2.4 Ghz
- Mobo Intel DQ35MPE Sound / VGA / SATA / GBLAN
- CPU Intel Q6600 in a box
- 4.0 Gb mem DDR2 800 Mhz (4 x 1 Gb)
- Video GF 8600GT 512 Mb PCI-E, XFX, 128 bits
- HD 500 Gb SATA II, 8 mb cache



We downloaded an i386 etch netinstall (md5 ok), booted the machine, but 
the install hanged before the language choosing screen, with:



 acpi: assume root bridge [\_SB_.PCI0] bus is 0


Reading and googling, we found some commands to try, so we set sata to 
ahci in the bios, then we booted the machine again, trying to install with:


install pci=nommconf


This way the installer went a little further, but it was unable to 
detect the cd-rom drive, so we got stuck again.


We also tried with a debian i386 testing netinst cd hangs in 'booting 
the kernel...'.


Would amd64 arch do better?

Anybody here succeeded installing debian in a similar machine?


thanks!


Bruno


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Program to display icc color profiles as 3D plots?

[Bruno Buys]

Can someone here recommend a linux program similiar to the IccToolBox
in the mac´s (or Chromix´s ColorThink), that will plot icc profiles in
a 3D graph? This is to compare how they fit in the L.a.b. space.
Thanks all!


Bruno




PS - I am not subscribed to this list.

How to get Acer 5570z´s modem working?

[Bruno Buys]

Did someone manage to get the modem that comes with the notebook Acer
5570z working?
It doesn´t show up in lspci or lsusb.
System is debian sid, kernel 2.6.22 for i686. The rest of the hw is working
ok (including wifi and webcam).

Thanks!





PS - I´m not in the list.

cmdline tool to search through pdf files?

[Bruno Buys]

I'd like to be able to search keywords in pdf files using cmd line
tools. My intention is to write shell scripts to automate heavy duty
keyword searching. Anyone has experience with that?

very thanks!


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Re: Setting permissions to new files?

[Bruno Buys]

Bruno Buys wrote:
Where do I change the permissions that are set when I create a new 
file? I mean, I'd like to be able to change the default permissions 
that my system atributes to new files.



[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ > newfile
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l newfile
-rw-r--r-- 1 bruno bruno 0 2007-06-17 18:06 newfile


I'd like new files to be created as writable to the group, as in

-rw-rw-r-- 1 bruno bruno 0 2007-06-17 18:06 newfile


thanks!

Umask did the trick. Kde seems to be following /etc/profile, so i edited 
it. Konsole and yakuake needed a 'umask 02' added to ~/.bashrc (there 
was none) to behave well. Neither one was reading ~/.bash_profile, by 
the way. It remembers me when I was trying to add ~/bin to my path. 
There was


if [ -d ~/bin ] ; then
   PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"
fi

but not worked.
Anyway, the issue is solved. Thanks all!




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Setting permissions to new files?

[Bruno Buys]

Where do I change the permissions that are set when I create a new file? 
I mean, I'd like to be able to change the default permissions that my 
system atributes to new files.



[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ > newfile
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l newfile
-rw-r--r-- 1 bruno bruno 0 2007-06-17 18:06 newfile


I'd like new files to be created as writable to the group, as in

-rw-rw-r-- 1 bruno bruno 0 2007-06-17 18:06 newfile


thanks!


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epson stylus c79 with debian?

[Bruno Buys]

So, I am researching before buying. Is this epson stylus c79 a good 
match for debian? Running in a standard config, x86, no exotic 
hardware/kernel/anything.

Anyone with experience?
Thanks much,


Bruno


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xmms segfaults

[Bruno Buys]

Xmms segfaults with no apparent reason.
I apt-get --purge removed it, then reinstalled, but the error remains.

Is someone having these same problems?


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xmms

Segmentation fault

You've probably found a bug in XMMS, please visit
http://bugs.xmms.org and fill out a bug report.

Segmentation fault
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache policy xmms
xmms:
 Installed: 1:1.2.10+20061101-1etch1
 Candidate: 1:1.2.10+20061101-1etch1
 Version table:
*** 1:1.2.10+20061101-1etch1 0
   500 ftp://ftp.pucpr.br etch/main Packages
   100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


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Re: OT: Can't we just drop all the OT stuff...

[Bruno Buys]

steve reilly wrote:

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On Wednesday 09 May 2007 13:25, Joe Hart wrote:
  

Greg Folkert wrote:


Come on, we all come here for "TOPICAL" discussions and bare metal
Debian stuff.

I mean, I might just have to unsubscribe and find another venue to find
my "fix" for Debian only topics.

  

snip

Hi,

im sure most people who subscribe to this list use more than one os, suse and 
debian here.  I subscribe to no less than 10 mailing lists as well. Cant we 
just delete one of the lower traffic lists and start a debian OT list?  this 
may seem like an overly simple solution, but why hasnt it been done?  


OT really needs to be on a separate list to keep all happy.
  



Ok, so talking about debian is OT in a debian OT list?


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Re: OT: Can't we just drop all the OT stuff...

[Bruno Buys]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:58:06PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote:
  

Come on, we all come here for "TOPICAL" discussions and bare metal
Debian stuff.



Cautions: Debian-user is intended for topical application only. Not to
be taken internally. If accidently ingested, seek professional help
immediately. Do not induce vomiting. 


A
  

Good one.


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Re: OT: DVD formats

[Bruno Buys]

Curt Howland wrote:

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Just a quick question. I finally got a dual-layer DVD writer, and made 
up a huge collection of home movies to play on the DVD player. I 
burned a DVD-R DL disk as a video DVD, and it worked _perfectly_ in 
the commodity DVD player that's connected to my TV.


However, when I try to play that same DVD on my laptop, which does not 
have a dual-layer DVD _burner_ but has had no problems reading the 
8+GB normal movie DVDs, it cannot read the disk. 


Is this normal?

Also, DVD-R DL disks are darned hard to find. the +R DL disks are 
everywhere, but my player only plays DVD-R 4.5GB disks so I 
deliberately went looking for the -R DL just in case it wouldn't read 
+R of either density. How very strange all of this is.


Curt-
  
How many test disks you burned? Maybe you tested your latop's dvd drive 
with one bad luck media. I have the same feeling, dvd's are strange. I 
bumped all sort of incompatibilities, already. Even with single 4.4 gb 
disks. Since I bought my first dvd burner, I couldn't even come up with 
an empirical strategy of what works and what not.

Did you see these docs? Maybe they can shed some light.

http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm
http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdformats.htm




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Re: where is libptp2?

[Bruno Buys]

Sven Arvidsson wrote:

On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 00:24 -0300, Bruno Buys wrote:
  

Anyone here use the libptp2 package? It talks to usb ptp devices. I am
quite sure I used it under sarge x86. But running etch amd64 now, and I
can't find it anywhere. Neither apt-cache search, google, apt-get.org or
packages.debian.org (and I looked under oldstable also).
The sf page for libptp seem to be not very active, the tar.gz file is a
bit old and won't compile ok. Is this the end for libptp?



I find no trace of such package in Sarge, are you sure it wasn't from a
third party archive?

It would help if you could explain why you need it, or what device
you're using. For digital cameras, I think gphoto has PTP support. I
also find libmtp5 for MTP communication, but I'm not sure if it supports
PTP also.

  

Hi sven,
Maybe I got the package in the author's website. I can't remember 
exactly, its been sometime. I used ptpcam to connect my nikon d70s 
camera to sarge. Nikon's usb storage support didn't work with sarge, so 
I had to use it set to ptp mode, at that time.
Now, under etch, d70s mounts ok with usb storage, so I never bothered 
anymore with ptp mode. The problem was the other day it kinda failed 
with ugly fat error lines under dmesg, so I decided to test the card in 
ptp mode. It was strange, the camera was acessing the images with no 
problem, but etch couldn't do the same, fat errors. It happened to one 
compact flash card, only. Three others worked as expected.






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where is libptp2?

[Bruno Buys]

Anyone here use the libptp2 package? It talks to usb ptp devices. I am
quite sure I used it under sarge x86. But running etch amd64 now, and I
can't find it anywhere. Neither apt-cache search, google, apt-get.org or
packages.debian.org (and I looked under oldstable also).
The sf page for libptp seem to be not very active, the tar.gz file is a
bit old and won't compile ok. Is this the end for libptp?


Bruno


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Re: [OT] How much open is OpenSolaris?

[Bruno Buys]

Joerg Schilling wrote:
From time to time I grab a diferent OS to install and try my hands at 
it. This time was OpenSolaris. The thing is, at some point in the 
install, OpenSolaris throws a license at my face that doesn't seem open 
at all. I can run the software, but I can't redistribute, copy, etc. I 
am no law expert, but that license doesn't seem really open or free.



You did confuse terms.

I don't know what you did install (most likely Solaris 10 or 
Solaris Express - the latter is the Solaris 11 betas)


You did not install OpenSolaris, you simply can't as you cannot install "Linux".
You did rather install a Solaris distribution. If it shows something
like:

#uname -a
SunOS opt 5.11 snv_xx i86pc i386 i86pc

then the Solaris distribution you did install was OpenSolaris _based_.

OpenSolaris is (in contrary to Linux) a complete OS like e.g. FreeBSD,
it is however not a distribution that may be installed. You need to add
a few things even to make a simple installable OS distribution.

Sun Solaris is free but not as free as "free beer" as you need to 
pesonally aggree on the license (which is needed because Sun still needs 
to pay for some of the added software). Sun still gives you more

"freedom" than e.g. Intel as Sun allows you to compile software you like
to sell using the Sun Studio Compiler, Intel does not ;-) The Sun Studio
compiler will be OpenSource in the near future, the Intel compiler most
likely not.

There are other OpenSolaris based distributions (e.g. SchilliX) that
add different code in order to make an installable distribution.
For this reason SchilliX is free software _and_ completely 
freely redistributable.


Although you are not allowed to redistribute Sun Solaris, you still may
do anything you like with Sun Solaris, you may even use it for commercial 
purposes.



  
As far as I could tell, at least grub and (a javified version of) gnome 
are free, and OpenSolaris is using it. 



OpenSolaris uses an enhanced version of grub (Linux boots from the Solaris
grub, but Solaris does not boot from the unmodified grub found on Linux
distriibutions).

OpenSolaris does not include gnome, Sun Solaris does. Sun is the
biggest contributor for the gnome project, do you see a problem?


  
are free, and OpenSolaris is using it. Maybe it uses other free 
software. So, doesn't that license conflicts with the gpl?



The Debian distribution uses a lot of free software from Sun. In fact,
28% of the Debian distribution is from Sun (3x more than RedHat contributed
and 5x more than IBM contributed). Do you see a licence conflict in Debian?


  
Its not to flame Sun, I know the company has contributed a lot with the 
community, and many folks respects them. Just trying to get things clearer.



If it helps, OpenSolaris is a really free project. Sun did follow my advise from
November 2004 and we now have a OpenSolaris constitution as well as a 
OpenSolaris Government Board. OpenSolaris is not controlled by Sun but by the 
OGB. This makes OpenSolaris easier to deal with than the Linux Kernel that 
depends on a single person that controls what goes in and what not.


The CDDL (used by OpenSolaris) is a license that is accepted as doubtlessly 
free by the OSS community. 


Jörg

  


Jorg and others,
It does help very much, thanks. I checked and what I have here is Sun 
Solaris, not OpenSolaris. So, my apologies to the project. I didn't see 
there was a difference between Solaris released freely (with some 
restrictions) by Sun and OpenSolaris. I thought they were the same thing.
That said, my doubt is about Sun or any other company (doesn't really 
matter which one) releasing gpl'ed software with additional 
restrictions. Isn't that the 'viral' aspect of the gpl? That you cannot 
impose additional restrictions when redistributing the software?



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[OT] How much open is OpenSolaris?

[Bruno Buys]

From time to time I grab a diferent OS to install and try my hands at 
it. This time was OpenSolaris. The thing is, at some point in the 
install, OpenSolaris throws a license at my face that doesn't seem open 
at all. I can run the software, but I can't redistribute, copy, etc. I 
am no law expert, but that license doesn't seem really open or free.
As far as I could tell, at least grub and (a javified version of) gnome 
are free, and OpenSolaris is using it. Maybe it uses other free 
software. So, doesn't that license conflicts with the gpl?
Its not to flame Sun, I know the company has contributed a lot with the 
community, and many folks respects them. Just trying to get things clearer.



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Re: ether-wake won't work anymore.

[Bruno Buys]

Andy Hawkins wrote:

Hi,

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   Bruno Buys<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
I´ve relied on etherwake to up remote machines, and it worked ok for 
quite some time. But recently I noticed it kind of stopped working. 
Since today I bumped two more machines which don't etherwake, I decided 
to see if anybody here knows something about it.

Is there any change of version, or protocol or something of this sort?
Any help is appreciated.



Not sure if it's relevant, but I've had etherwake fail occasionally. It
seemed to be related to when the machine being woken had been completely
powered off (power cut or similar). I found I hate to power it up using the
button on the case, then shut it down. From then, etherwake would work just
fine.

Andy


  

Hi andy,
I still don't know how to fix this. Your issue seem similar to mine... 
The thing is, I installed a network in an office with two computers and 
one router. I can ssh to the router, but I'd like to, from the router, 
up the two machines using etherwake and then do maintenance. Otherwise 
I'd need to get there personally, which of course, I'd rather not. Its 
possible to work this way, I've done this before. The thing is, 
etherwake won't work with both of them. And both machines are in 
soft-off state (i guess thats the name), not powered on, but they light 
in the switch and in their eth cards, in the computer's rear cover.

I've searched the bios for any setups, packages installed, nothing appears.



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ether-wake won't work anymore.

[Bruno Buys]

I´ve relied on etherwake to up remote machines, and it worked ok for 
quite some time. But recently I noticed it kind of stopped working. 
Since today I bumped two more machines which don't etherwake, I decided 
to see if anybody here knows something about it.

Is there any change of version, or protocol or something of this sort?
Any help is appreciated.


thanks!


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Re: vmware complains about header file location (Debian Etch)

[Bruno Buys]

Greg Folkert wrote:

On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 23:21 +, Adrian Midgley wrote:
  

"The directory of kernel headers (version @@VMWARE@@ UTS_RELEASE) does
not match
your running kernel (version 2.6.18-3-686).  Even if the module were to
compile
successfully, it would not load into the running kernel.

What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your
running
kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]

"

It seems to me that my headers are in there and match.

Could this be a problem because Xen is installed, although not in use?

Is there a solution?



In February and in January I've gone over this time and time again.

Here is the e-mail I made:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/02/msg02810.html

These are instructions.

You might want to download VMware Workstation v5.5.3 and the update
files.

  
Search the lists, this has been discussed recently. There's a 'any any' 
patch for vmware.



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Re: sendemail with gmail?

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Juergen Fiedler wrote:

On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 02:59:33PM -0300, Bruno Buys wrote:
[...]
  

   Hi Juergen, thanks for replying.
   I tried your line, and here's the output:

   Mar 09 14:58:26 cestudos sendEmail[3111]: WARNING => Name/Value pair
   [tls=yes] will be ignored: unknown key [tls]
   Mar 09 14:58:27 cestudos sendEmail[3111]: ERROR => Received:530 5.7.0
   Must issue a STARTTLS command first b12sm3710770ana

   Shall I generate a tls key first? How?



Are you sure that your version od sendemail supports TLS? It rather
looks like it doesn't. The version that I have installed is 1.55-1,
TLS is only supported in 1.54 and later.

 --j
  

Hi Juergen,
That was the case. I was running 1.52 from etch. The 1.55 from the dev's 
website does run ok with gmail.

thanks!


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Re: sendemail with gmail?

[Bruno Buys]

On 3/9/07, Juergen Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 12:21:00PM -0300, Bruno Buys wrote:
>Anyone succeeded using sendemail (its not sendmail) with gmail? I
>installed the tls related packages, enabled -tls=yes in the command
line,
>but no go. And I already did what this guy at
>http://caspian.dotconf.net/menu/Software/SendEmail/ said, under 'tls
>support'.
>Other smtp's do work.
>
>Any help is appreciated!

In sid, the following works for me:

sendEmail -f [EMAIL PROTECTED] -t [EMAIL PROTECTED] \
  -u test -m "this is a test" \
  -s smtp.gmail.com \
  -o tls=yes \
  -xu my.account -xp mypasswd

With the appropriate values for -f, -t, -xu and -xp, the mail is sent
successfully and arrives as expected.

Good luck,
--j




Hi Juergen, thanks for replying.
I tried your line, and here's the output:

Mar 09 14:58:26 cestudos sendEmail[3111]: WARNING => Name/Value pair
[tls=yes] will be ignored: unknown key [tls]
Mar 09 14:58:27 cestudos sendEmail[3111]: ERROR => Received:530
5.7.0Must issue a STARTTLS command first b12sm3710770ana

Shall I generate a tls key first? How?

sendemail with gmail?

[Bruno Buys]

Anyone succeeded using sendemail (its not sendmail) with gmail? I installed
the tls related packages, enabled -tls=yes in the command line, but no go.
And I already did what this guy at
http://caspian.dotconf.net/menu/Software/SendEmail/ said, under 'tls
support'.
Other smtp's do work.

Any help is appreciated!


bruno buys

Re: New box

[Bruno Buys]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I know this is OT, but I am running Debian Etch  -
I picked up a new computer last light - 2.4 ghz with a dual core 
processorput my hd from my old machine in it...and WOW! I thought 
Etch was fast before on my 450mhz P3.


This however is just the lead in to a question I am hoping the gurus 
here can answer.The computer came with an LG DVD player - but I'd like 
to install my CD burner in as well. Etch recognizes the DVD drive as 
/dev/hdd. Question is [OT alert] should I make the CD burner the slave 
to the DVD, or should I make it the slave to the HD? The Intel board 
only has two IDE connectors or is there a better way ?? Sorry guys 
definitely OT for this list.


Thanks


---Frank McCormick---
--Montreal

I'd slave it to the dvd drive. Just checking, you have a 80 pin ide flat 
cable? Since the computer is new, you should. If you don't, replace the 
40pin cable with a 80 pin. It will make transfers way faster. Its good 
for dvd playing and cd recording.



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OT: kbabel error?

[Bruno Buys]

Hi!
Kbabel won't show me the msgid and msgstr boxes so I can translate. This 
is odd. It does show comments and other empty boxes, and I tried them 
all, but no one seems to have the msg's boxes to work with.

Screen capture is here:
http://gigante.homelinux.org/kbabel.png

This is etch for amd64.


thanks for any input and sorry for the ot.


bruno


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program to build .debs from compiled source code?

[Bruno Buys]

I'm looking for checkinstall (was using it under sarge) at etch for 
amd64, but it seems to be absent. Which program can I use to build debs 
from compiled programs?



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Re: 32bit programs on amd64?

[Bruno Buys]

Stefan Monnier wrote:

I am trying to figure out the easiest way to install a firefox version that
would work with java and flash inside my amd64 etch. Actually flash isn't
that important, but java is.



Why can't you use a native 64bit Java?
From sun's website at 
http://java.sun.com/javase/6/webnotes/install/jre/install-linux-64.html

I find the following:

"Installation Instructions
This procedure installs the Java SE Runtime Environment, but not the 
Java Plugin or Java Web Start (which are not yet available for 64-bit 
Linux). The Java SE Runtime Environment for Linux 64-bit comes bundled 
in two install formats, whose filenames are given here:


* Self-extracting binary:
jre-1_6_0_-linux-amd64.bin

* RPM File:
jre-1_6_0_-linux-amd64-rpm.bin

To install, download these files and otherwise follow the 32-bit Linux 
installation."



So, understand sun does not provide 64bit java applet for linux yet.

apt's repos provide java-gcj-compat-plugin which does provide a java 
applet, but my bank doesn't like it. I try to enter my passwd and it 
says 'passwd field empty'.



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Re: 32bit programs on amd64?

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Stefan Monnier wrote:

I am trying to figure out the easiest way to install a firefox version that
would work with java and flash inside my amd64 etch. Actually flash isn't
that important, but java is.



Why can't you use a native 64bit Java?


Stefan


  

thanks all for the replies.
Stefan: I have a java plugin installed to my 64bit iceweasel. But my 
homebanking seems to not like it. I can't log into my bank account. It 
was working before (sarge i386). If its working, i'd prefer it over any 
emulation.

Jerome: i installed nspluginwrapper. Tinkering with it right now...
Douglas: My bank account website needs java runtime environment. The 
login screen is a virtual java keyboard.



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32bit programs on amd64?

[Bruno Buys]

I am trying to figure out the easiest way to install a firefox version 
that would work with java and flash inside my amd64 etch. Actually flash 
isn't that important, but java is. The document at (1) tells me that the 
package ia32-libs, which I already have, provides a minimal support to 
run 32bit programs. Under 'Using an IA32 chroot to run 32bit 
applications' > 'The quick way' it doesn't go further as to where such 
32bit programs shall be installed, or how to tell the program where to 
libs are. My first attempt at running a downloaded firefox failed, so 
here I am.

Ayone knows what am I missing?



1 - 
https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id292010



I am trying to avoid the chroot solution, kinda short on disk space here.


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Re: VIA VT8237A Southbridge Advice

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Grok Mogger wrote:

Bruno Buys wrote:

Grok Mogger wrote:

Hey everyone,

I'm looking into building a new machine.  As for the motherboard, 
I'm interested in an ASUS 'A8V-VM SE'. Unfortunately, in Googling 
I've seen people complain about problems with the board's 
southbridge.  It's a 'VIA VT8237A'.


I went to kernel.org and started looking through the change logs 
wondering if perhaps I'd be able to find something about support 
being added to the kernel for this chipset.  Lo and behold, I did!


I searched this changelog...
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.19

And found the following two snippets that seem to indicate that 
there is support in the kernel for this southbridge as of the 2.6.19 
kernel.


Snippet 1:

Author: Rudolf Marek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:   Sun Sep 3 22:35:21 2006 +0200

i2c-viapro: Add support for the VT8237A and VT8251

i2c-viapro: Add support for the VT8237A and VT8251

Documentation update included. Compile tested.


Snippet 2:

Author: Jay Cliburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:   Mon Aug 7 22:08:30 2006 -0500

[PATCH] sata_via: Add SATA support for vt8237a

This patch adds support for the VIA Technologies VT8237A SATA 
controller,

used, for example, on the ASUS M2V socket AM2 motherboard.



Unfortunately, Debian uses the 2.6.18 kernel.  I'm somewhat lost 
from here.  Does anyone have any advice for me?


Even if I can add support for my Southbridge somehow, if the default 
Debian kernels don't include support for my Southbridge, then I 
won't be able to install Debian, right?  Because the installer won't 
be able to write to my SATA hard disk.


Anyway, I'm really clueless from here and would appreciate someone 
pointing me in the right direction.  =)


Thanks!
- GM



Hi Grok,
Unless the *A brand of the chipset is a lot different, you shall not 
have any surprises. This is my lspci for it:


00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge 
[KT600/K8T800/K8T890 South]



The board is an Abit kv8-pro, for amd64, with amd64's etch, kernel 
2.6.18-3-amd64 and a sata disk. Works nicely.





Hey Bruno,

Thanks for taking the time to read all that, I know it was a long 
post.  =)


Unfortunately, from my Googling, I'm under the impression that it IS a 
very different chipset.  I could be wrong, but unfortunately I don't 
have any way to find out.  (Maybe some nice person with a working 
VT8237A Southbridge will find this and tell me it works?  =P   )


Thanks for letting know about your board, processor, and chipset 
though, that's definitely helpful.


- GM


Trying a livecd is the way to go here. There's knoppix and kanotix which 
are debian based, might give you a good idea.


Compiling the kernel isn't really scary, there are debian packages to 
build kernels, did you see kernel-package, under 'apt-cache search'? But 
you can also compile from kernel.org sources, if you wish.











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Re: VIA VT8237A Southbridge Advice

[Bruno Buys]

Grok Mogger wrote:

Hey everyone,

I'm looking into building a new machine.  As for the motherboard, I'm 
interested in an ASUS 'A8V-VM SE'. Unfortunately, in Googling I've 
seen people complain about problems with the board's southbridge.  
It's a 'VIA VT8237A'.


I went to kernel.org and started looking through the change logs 
wondering if perhaps I'd be able to find something about support being 
added to the kernel for this chipset.  Lo and behold, I did!


I searched this changelog...
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.19

And found the following two snippets that seem to indicate that there 
is support in the kernel for this southbridge as of the 2.6.19 kernel.


Snippet 1:

Author: Rudolf Marek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:   Sun Sep 3 22:35:21 2006 +0200

i2c-viapro: Add support for the VT8237A and VT8251

i2c-viapro: Add support for the VT8237A and VT8251

Documentation update included. Compile tested.


Snippet 2:

Author: Jay Cliburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:   Mon Aug 7 22:08:30 2006 -0500

[PATCH] sata_via: Add SATA support for vt8237a

This patch adds support for the VIA Technologies VT8237A SATA 
controller,

used, for example, on the ASUS M2V socket AM2 motherboard.



Unfortunately, Debian uses the 2.6.18 kernel.  I'm somewhat lost from 
here.  Does anyone have any advice for me?


Even if I can add support for my Southbridge somehow, if the default 
Debian kernels don't include support for my Southbridge, then I won't 
be able to install Debian, right?  Because the installer won't be able 
to write to my SATA hard disk.


Anyway, I'm really clueless from here and would appreciate someone 
pointing me in the right direction.  =)


Thanks!
- GM



Hi Grok,
Unless the *A brand of the chipset is a lot different, you shall not 
have any surprises. This is my lspci for it:


00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge 
[KT600/K8T800/K8T890 South]



The board is an Abit kv8-pro, for amd64, with amd64's etch, kernel 
2.6.18-3-amd64 and a sata disk. Works nicely.



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Re: Sound on Sarge r4 - Realtek ALC888 chip

[Bruno Buys]

john gennard wrote:

I've just made a new install of Sarge's latest release and
its updates.

I'm very weak with sound. The M/Board has onboard sound
(a Realtek ALC888 chip) and I was hoping to use Alsa for
the first time. There's virtually nothing on the 'net about
this chip and literally nothing that helps me.

Does anyone know the driver/s required?

I've installed Kubuntu alongside Sarge and it (Kubuntu)
automatically provides working sound on install. However,
I can't see how it achieves this.

The Motherboard incidentally is an Asrock 775Dual-VSTA.


John.





alsa sees my alc658D from via without problem. Did you try 'alsaconf'?


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Re: First impressions of Etch and trying to get vmware server to run (amd64)

[Bruno Buys]

Paul Walsh wrote:

Bruno Buys wrote:

Paul Walsh wrote:


  
I did a amd64 etch install two days ago. There was an issue with 
vmware, but different from yours. Mine installed ok, but when running 
vmware-config.pl it complained about linux headers, which i did have 
ok. Look at a thread called 'vmware on newer kernels (was debian 
rocks!)', or something like this. Nice ppl from this list pointed me 
to a patch which solved, so now vmware does ok. And its the vmware 
server version.
Etch is very likely to start quicker than suse. I had this impression 
when i first installed woody, compared to suse 8.2 that I was using. 
Its a nice system, though a little bloated.



Thanks  Bruno and Jorg.  After I installed ia32-libs I got a bit 
further and can now access my VMs :-)  I've even pointed IceDove at my 
Thunderbird directory and have access to all the mail there. Next 
stop: IceWeasel and Java plugin. ..


So far I've downloaded JRE 1.5.0 (self-extracting .bin file) from Sun 
and extracted it in /usr/java (so I end up with /usr/java/jre1.5.0)


I then created symlinks in /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins  and 
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins which pointed to 
/usr/java/jre1.5.0/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so but *still* 
iceweasel can't find the plugin.   Any suggestions folks?


From this path /usr/java/jre1.5.0/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so, 
I understand you downloaded the i386 version from sun?

I guess since sun moved java to gpl, there are apt-get packages for it. See:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache search java|grep plugin
java-gcj-compat-plugin - Web browser plugin to execute Java (tm) applets 
using gij

libmcardplugin - MuscleCard Applet PlugIn
mozilla-plugin-vlc - multimedia plugin for web browsers based on VLC


If I recall well, java-gcj-compat-plugin installed the java re needed by 
my homebanking.



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Re: First impressions of Etch and trying to get vmware server to run (amd64)

[Bruno Buys]

Paul Walsh wrote:

Background:

The PC I use at work (Intel D945GCZL motherboard, Intel BTX P4, SATA2 HDD) has, 
until yesterday, been running SUSE 10.1
or openSUSE 10.2 (depending what mood I'm in).  I'd successfully installed 
vmware server 1.0.1 on each version so that I
could run a windoze XP VM (sadly, practically everything here is a product of 
Redmond!).

>From the start I'd really wanted Debian on as I'd become somewhat used to it 
on other systems (though I still have
difficulty locating some things in the menus). I'd previously tried to install 
Sarge (32bit and 64bit) but neither saw
the SATA drive nor onboard NIC.  Yesterday I got round to installing Etch which 
happily saw the NIC and HDD and
installed almost flawlessly. I say "almost" because there I was using the GUI 
install for the first time and I thought
I'd switch console using CTRL-ALT-Fn which promptly caused an error (sorry, no 
details to hand - I simply restarted and
avoided that key combo!) Also, grub failed to install, so I ended up manually 
editing menu.lst on /dev/sda1 (the
openSUSE 10.2 partition where grub is installed)

Once I'd got the system up and running I needed to get dual-head display sorted 
out (Sapphire ATI Radeon X550 with 2 x
19" AMW M199D displays) which I eventually managed by taking Monitor, Modes, 
Screen, Device and ServerLayout sections
from the xorg.conf used by SUSE and removing anything that seemed SUSE related 
(SAX2 stuff).

Finally I was ready to give vmware a shot and that's where I'm hitting a brick 
wall.

First off, uname -a gives the following:

Linux etchtest 2.6.17-2-amd64 #1 SMP Wed Sep 13 17:49:33 CEST 2006 x86_64 
GNU/Linux

when I try running /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl it complains about libraries:

The correct version of one or more libraries needed to run VMware Server may be
missing.  This is the output of ldd /usr/bin/vmware:
linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xe000)
libm.so.6 => /lib32/libm.so.6 (0xf7f4a000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib32/libdl.so.2 (0xf7f46000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib32/libpthread.so.0 (0xf7f35000)
libX11.so.6 => not found
libXtst.so.6 => not found
libXext.so.6 => not found
libXt.so.6 => not found
libICE.so.6 => not found
libSM.so.6 => not found
libXrender.so.1 => not found
libz.so.1 => not found
libc.so.6 => /lib32/libc.so.6 (0xf7e08000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf7f81000)

This program cannot tell for sure, but you may need to upgrade libc5 to glibc
before you can run VMware Server.

Trouble is, ldconfig -p has no trouble locating the libraries:
ldconfig -p
*snip*

libX11.so.6 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6
libXtst.so.6 (libc6,x86-64) => /usr/lib/libXtst.so.6
etc.

Is this a 64bit vs 32bit problem?  Has anyone successfully got vmware server 
running under 64bit Etch? If so, any
suggestions would be gratefully received! :)


Apart from the vmware problems everything seems to be OK so far.  I'm not sure 
whether it's psychological but Etch does
seem to start up quicker than Suse :-)

  
I did a amd64 etch install two days ago. There was an issue with vmware, 
but different from yours. Mine installed ok, but when running 
vmware-config.pl it complained about linux headers, which i did have ok. 
Look at a thread called 'vmware on newer kernels (was debian rocks!)', 
or something like this. Nice ppl from this list pointed me to a patch 
which solved, so now vmware does ok. And its the vmware server version.
Etch is very likely to start quicker than suse. I had this impression 
when i first installed woody, compared to suse 8.2 that I was using. Its 
a nice system, though a little bloated.



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Re: VMWare on current kernels

[Bruno Buys]

Greg Folkert wrote:

On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 20:38 +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
  

On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 the mental interface of
Jan Schledermann told:

[...]


A significant difference between the pre-compiled 2.6.18-1-686
kernel and the source code, is that the source code by default
creates version 2.6.18 and NOT 2.6.18-1-686. This version
difference could cause the compile problem?
  

No! Since 2.6.18 we're using include/linux/utsrelease.h instead of
include/linux/version.h. Either the vm-sources have to be patched or
as you suggested use  a selfconfigured (compiled) kernel.



Have you applied the "vmware-any-any-XXX" updates(1)?

I get zero problems running VMware on a stock Debian kernel.


(1) http://ftp.cvut.cz/vmware/vmware-any-any-update107.tar.gz
  

Greg, the patch worked perfectly here, thanks. vmware is running as I type.
Jan, I am using a stock kernel, no compile here. I installed the sources 
to try to

workaround vmware.


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Re: VMWare on current kernels (was: debian rocks!)

[Bruno Buys]

Margarita Manterola wrote:

Hi!

On 2/5/07, Shobhit Jindal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 2/5/07, Bruno Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The only
> catch ins't debian related: vmware seems to not like my
> /usr/src/include/linux, and asks for a new linux/version.h.

 i have been stuck to kernel 2.6.18-1-686 for the very same 
reason and

not upgrading have searched a bit but to no avail.


I had this problem as well.  And as a pointer, I could get the latest
vmware-player to work, where the old vmware-workstation that I had did
not.


I was trying with the vmware server. Anybody has a suggestion?
I have both kernel sources and headers installed.


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debian rocks!

[Bruno Buys]

Just count one more happy debian user! Reinstalled yesterday, to switch 
from x86 sarge to amd64 etch. Everything went flawlessly.
Downloaded last netinst, booted it, hardware detected smoothly. The 
machine has two sound cards, both worked as before. I chose manual disk 
editing, reformatted both / and /usr/bin, left /backup and /home 
untouched. The new system was installed in like 15 min or less. Rebooted 
into new system, skipped tasksel completely, apt-get installed kde, 
x-window-system, xorg, and their fellows. No surprises. New kde found 
all my configs, got a desktop just identical to the previous. The only 
catch ins't debian related: vmware seems to not like my 
/usr/src/include/linux, and asks for a new linux/version.h. But i can 
live with that.
So, for now I can only thank the project for such a solid system. In the 
future, when I will be wealthier, I hope to donate regularly.




bruno
debian user and admirer


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Re: spcaview

[Bruno Buys]

Bayrouni wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>Is there any spcaview package for debian.
>I made some searchs but nothing. (aptitude, google)
>
>Thank you.
>
>
>  
>
I was doing a spca install these days, and I couldn't find one either.
There are unofficial packages, but they are quite old. In the case of
spca, I would recommend the latest ones in the dev's website, as there
is a very new bug fixing release. I could only get my webcam working
after trying the very lastest one.

unofficials:
http://www1.apt-get.org/search.php?query=spca&submit=&arch%5B%5D=i386&arch%5B%5D=all

the one that worked for me:
http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca50x/Download/gspcav1-20070110.tar.gz


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Re: dpkg-reconfigure command to reconfigure the network?

[Bruno Buys]

Liam O'Toole wrote:

>On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 11:28:55 -0200
>Bruno Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I am missing the dpkg-reconfigure command to reconfigure the network
>>interfaces. I am moving from dhcp to static ip address, and I need
>>that dpkg dialog.
>>Can someone here recall that? The machine is sarge.
>>thanks much!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>I don't know the dpkg-reconfigure command, but I do know that it's just
>as easy to edit the file /etc/network/interfaces and restart the
>network manually (by issuing the command '/etc/init.d/networking
>restart' as root). See 'man interfaces' for details of the syntax of the
>interfaces file. Useful also for those cases which are not handled by
>dpkg-reconfigure.
>
>  
>
I didn't mean dpkg was the only way. The new config is doing good. Quick
and easy. Thanks all!


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Re: Second sound card is too much hassle?

[Bruno Buys]

Jhair Tocancipa Triana wrote:

>Bruno Buys writes:
>
>  
>
>>I have the need for a second mic in on my computer, and I was wondering
>>if I plugging in a spare emu10k1 card was a good idea. The computer has
>>onboard sound realtek alc658 (so says alsamixer), working ok. With two
>>cards, how does sound related apps behave? I never did this before...
>>
>>
>
>If your card is correctly detected by alsa, you will see it in
>/proc/asound/cards, e.g.:
>
>$ cat /proc/asound/cards
> 0 [IXP]: ATIIXP - ATI IXP
>  ATI IXP rev 1 with unknown codec at 0xb0003400, irq 17
> 1 [Modem  ]: ATIIXP-MODEM - ATI IXP Modem
>  ATI IXP Modem rev 1 at 0xb0003800, irq 17
> 2 [Audio  ]: USB-Audio - USB Audio
>  USB Audio at usb-:00:13.0-2, full speed
>
>Most sound related programs can be configured to use a particular
>sound card.
>
>With the example above
>
>$ alsamixer -c 2
>
>controls the sound card with index 2 (the USB one).
>
>You can also configure alsa to use a particular sound card as the
>default, see the alsa documentation.
>
>HTH,
>
>  
>
Hi Jhair,
I plugged the emu10k1, and after reboot, my via onboard audio doesn't
appear anymore. The only line on dmesg is this:

VIA 82xx Audio: probe of :00:11.5 failed with error -12

However, alsaconf con see both cards. The problem is, I have to choose
either one. Is there any way to keep both?


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Re: dpkg-reconfigure command to reconfigure the network?

[Bruno Buys]

Liam O'Toole wrote:

>On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 11:28:55 -0200
>Bruno Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I am missing the dpkg-reconfigure command to reconfigure the network
>>interfaces. I am moving from dhcp to static ip address, and I need
>>that dpkg dialog.
>>Can someone here recall that? The machine is sarge.
>>thanks much!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>I don't know the dpkg-reconfigure command, but I do know that it's just
>as easy to edit the file /etc/network/interfaces and restart the
>network manually (by issuing the command '/etc/init.d/networking
>restart' as root). See 'man interfaces' for details of the syntax of the
>interfaces file. Useful also for those cases which are not handled by
>dpkg-reconfigure.
>
>  
>
Indeed. Thanks, friend.


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I am missing the dpkg-reconfigure command to reconfigure the network
interfaces. I am moving from dhcp to static ip address, and I need that
dpkg dialog.
Can someone here recall that? The machine is sarge.
thanks much!


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Second sound card is too much hassle?

[Bruno Buys]

Hi,
I have the need for a second mic in on my computer, and I was wondering
if I plugging in a spare emu10k1 card was a good idea. The computer has
onboard sound realtek alc658 (so says alsamixer), working ok. With two
cards, how does sound related apps behave? I never did this before...
Thanks!

This is a updated sarge machine, kernel 2.6.8-2-k7, kde 3.5.0 from
backports.


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Re: Win key to K menu??

[Bruno Buys]

Kyle Hamar wrote:

> On 1/10/07, Bruno Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I was used to open the k menu just by hitting the win key, in kde 3.2.2.
>> Now, after upgrading to kde 3.5.0 from sarge-backports, it won't let me.
>> When I go to control center and try to enable it, control center only
>> accepts the win key together with some other, otherwise no deal.
>> Someone knows? Thanks!
>
>
>> From http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html
>
>
> 5.7.How do I use the Windows(r) key to open the K menu?
> 
> Previous versions of KDE provided a trick to allow you to use the
> Windows(r) key both as a modifier (so you could have shortcuts like
> Win+R), and as a regular key (so that pressing Win on its own could
> open the K menu). This feature was removed for reasons of usability
> and accessibility, as well as keeping the code clean. For current
> versions of KDE, you have two options: either use a different shortcut
> to open the K menu (the default is Alt+F1), or remap the Win key to be
> a regular key, rather than a modifier.
>
> If you choose to do the second, here's one way:
>
>   1.  Find the keycode for your Win key using xev: Run the
> command xev in a Konsole, and press the Win key. Look in the output of
> xev for keycode n, where n is the keycode of the Win key.
>   2.  Use xmodmap to remap the Win key. An appropriate command is
> xmodmap -e 'keycode n=Menu'.
>   3.  In the KDE Control Center, go to Regional &
> Accessibility->Keyboard Shortcuts and set the shortcut for Popup
> Launch Menu to the Win key. You should now be able to popup the K menu
> by pressing the Win key.
>   4.  One more step is required to save the changes across
> settings: Create a file ~/.kde/env/win-key.sh (create the directory if
> it doesn't exist), and add the xmodmap command you used previously to
> it. The change should now be applied every time you start KDE.
>
thank you, Kyle! That's exactly it.


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Win key to K menu??

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I was used to open the k menu just by hitting the win key, in kde 3.2.2.
Now, after upgrading to kde 3.5.0 from sarge-backports, it won't let me.
When I go to control center and try to enable it, control center only
accepts the win key together with some other, otherwise no deal.
Someone knows? Thanks!


bruno


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Re: setting a spca5xx webcam under sarge?

[Bruno Buys]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

>On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 07:35:12PM -0200, Bruno Buys wrote:
>  
>
>>Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 01:53:23AM -0200, Bruno Buys wrote:
>>>  
>>>
>>>>Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 10:47:43PM -0200, Bruno Buys wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>>compiled it with module-assistant. Everything went ok, and modprobe
>>>>>>inserts the driver with no apparent problems. The thing is, accessing
>>>>>>the camera causes the whole system to freeze. Some tutorials suggest its
>>>>>>a gcc version problem between the kernel gcc and the driver gcc.
>>>>>>Relevant modules loaded are:
>>>>>>spca5xx
>>>>>>videodev
>>>>>>v4l1-compat
>>>>>>v4l2-common
>>>>>>usbcore
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>I don't know much, but how are you accessing the camera? what if you
>>>>>do a 
>>>>>
>>>>>cat /dev/video[0] > testvid
>>>>>
>>>>>does that cause a freeze?
>>>>>
>>>>>if not, can you play that file in mplayer or xine or whatever?
>>>>>
>>>>>this method sometimes works with tuner cards for example just to see
>>>>>if the thing is working. I just tried it with my webcam and it didn't
>>>>>really work, in that I got no playable video (probably due to
>>>>>compression), but at least it shows that there is info coming from the
>>>>>camera. 
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>>Other people seem to be using this webcam model quite successfully, with
>>>>>>various distros, so I believe its some troubleshootable thing which I am
>>>>>>missing badly.
>>>>>>Someone help?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>I think that you can get spca5xx binaries from debian, its the gspca
>>>>>that needs compiling... at least in sid its spca5xx-modules-
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>Hi andrew,
>>>>I tested the camera with the utility from the driver author, spcaview
>>>>and spcagui. Cat'ing /dev/video1 (video0 is a bttv card) froze the
>>>>machine just the same.
>>>>
>>>>So, the problem is with the driver?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>sounds like it. using cat pretty much eliminates everything but the
>>>drivers from the chain. but maybe you are conflicting with the bttv
>>>card? can you pull the tv card and try it? maybe you have conflicting
>>>interrupts? as I said before, have you tried the binary modules from
>>>debian ? 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>I upgraded the machine to etch, so now its 2.6.18-3-k7. Before that I
>>did try removing the bttv card, but no difference. Actually, I could set
>>those utilities to open both the webcam and the bttv card, doing '-d
>>/dev/video[1,2]'. The bttv was ok (no freeze), but the cam froze.
>>Also, I received feedback from Michel Xhaard, the author of the driver,
>>and following his advice, I upgraded to the new gspcav1 driver. Now the
>>machine doesn't freeze anymore. I seem to be moving forward, ;). But
>>spcagui and spcaview now open a window without any image. All I get is a
>>dark background.
>>So, I 'm stuck in this point.
>>
>>
>>
>
>I've not used either program so you're on your own there.
>
>  
>
>>What I already did was:
>>- Test the webcam in a virtual win in the same machine: test ok.
>>
>>
>>
>
>what do you mean by this? 
>
>  
>
>>- Tried with both 'using frame buffer' option from xorg conf and 'not
>>using frame buffer'. (This is because when quitting, spcagui print
>>'Unmapping frame buffer' and 'freeing frame buffer' to the console. Test
>>yield no difference.
>>
>>I am using the nvidia 3D binary driver, if it makes any difference. And
>>now the bttv card is installed.
>>
>>
>
>don't think it matters
>
>  
>
>>I was told to upgrade to 2.6.19, but no further explanation. So, it
>>remains to be seen. Sounds reasonable?
>>
>>
>>
>
>I'm running my camera on debian sid binary kernel (2.6.18-3 I think).
>
>  
>
>>Do you have any idea whats going on?
>>
>>
>>
>nope. ;-)
>
>why don't you try one of the other tools to view it before you start
>heading off on tangents. I've had success with camstream and gqcam. In
>one, if not both of them (not at my machine right now), you have to
>close the camera window and re-open a new one to get an image. worth a
>shot. another you could try is motion. its strictly cli, but will
>generate a whole mess of jpg's and avi's when you move in front of the
>camera.
>
>A
>  
>
I tried camE, gqcam and camstream. The dark background thing is
widespread. No single software did ok with the cam. So weird, the camera
lights on and off when some program accesses it. But no image.
Well, the issue is open...


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Re: setting a spca5xx webcam under sarge?

[Bruno Buys]

>>What I already did was:
>>- Test the webcam in a virtual win in the same machine: test ok.
>>
>>
>>
>
>what do you mean by this? 
>

I mean, I tested the camera in a vmware windows install, in the same
computer.

>why don't you try one of the other tools to view it before you start
>heading off on tangents. I've had success with camstream and gqcam. In
>one, if not both of them (not at my machine right now), you have to
>close the camera window and re-open a new one to get an image. worth a
>shot. another you could try is motion. its strictly cli, but will
>generate a whole mess of jpg's and avi's when you move in front of the
>camera.
>
>A
>  
>
Will try them right away.


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Re: setting a spca5xx webcam under sarge?

[Bruno Buys]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

>On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 01:53:23AM -0200, Bruno Buys wrote:
>  
>
>>Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 10:47:43PM -0200, Bruno Buys wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>>
>[...]
>  
>
>>>>compiled it with module-assistant. Everything went ok, and modprobe
>>>>inserts the driver with no apparent problems. The thing is, accessing
>>>>the camera causes the whole system to freeze. Some tutorials suggest its
>>>>a gcc version problem between the kernel gcc and the driver gcc.
>>>>Relevant modules loaded are:
>>>>spca5xx
>>>>videodev
>>>>v4l1-compat
>>>>v4l2-common
>>>>usbcore
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I don't know much, but how are you accessing the camera? what if you
>>>do a 
>>>
>>>cat /dev/video[0] > testvid
>>>
>>>does that cause a freeze?
>>>
>>>if not, can you play that file in mplayer or xine or whatever?
>>>
>>>this method sometimes works with tuner cards for example just to see
>>>if the thing is working. I just tried it with my webcam and it didn't
>>>really work, in that I got no playable video (probably due to
>>>compression), but at least it shows that there is info coming from the
>>>camera. 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>>Other people seem to be using this webcam model quite successfully, with
>>>>various distros, so I believe its some troubleshootable thing which I am
>>>>missing badly.
>>>>Someone help?
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I think that you can get spca5xx binaries from debian, its the gspca
>>>that needs compiling... at least in sid its spca5xx-modules-
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>Hi andrew,
>>I tested the camera with the utility from the driver author, spcaview
>>and spcagui. Cat'ing /dev/video1 (video0 is a bttv card) froze the
>>machine just the same.
>>
>>So, the problem is with the driver?
>>
>>
>
>sounds like it. using cat pretty much eliminates everything but the
>drivers from the chain. but maybe you are conflicting with the bttv
>card? can you pull the tv card and try it? maybe you have conflicting
>interrupts? as I said before, have you tried the binary modules from
>debian ? 
>
>A
>  
>
Hi andrew,
I upgraded the machine to etch, so now its 2.6.18-3-k7. Before that I
did try removing the bttv card, but no difference. Actually, I could set
those utilities to open both the webcam and the bttv card, doing '-d
/dev/video[1,2]'. The bttv was ok (no freeze), but the cam froze.
Also, I received feedback from Michel Xhaard, the author of the driver,
and following his advice, I upgraded to the new gspcav1 driver. Now the
machine doesn't freeze anymore. I seem to be moving forward, ;). But
spcagui and spcaview now open a window without any image. All I get is a
dark background.
So, I 'm stuck in this point.

What I already did was:
- Test the webcam in a virtual win in the same machine: test ok.

- Tried with both 'using frame buffer' option from xorg conf and 'not
using frame buffer'. (This is because when quitting, spcagui print
'Unmapping frame buffer' and 'freeing frame buffer' to the console. Test
yield no difference.

I am using the nvidia 3D binary driver, if it makes any difference. And
now the bttv card is installed.

I was told to upgrade to 2.6.19, but no further explanation. So, it
remains to be seen. Sounds reasonable?

Do you have any idea whats going on?
















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Re: setting a spca5xx webcam under sarge?

[Bruno Buys]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

>On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 10:47:43PM -0200, Bruno Buys wrote:
>  
>
>>I'm trying to set up a 'Z-Star Microeletronics Corp.' webcam in this
>>sarge machine (name provided by lsusb, together with '0ac8:305b'. The
>>driver's website http://mxhaard.free.fr claims this is a supported
>>camera). After some googling, I downloaded the spca5xx driver and
>>compiled it with module-assistant. Everything went ok, and modprobe
>>inserts the driver with no apparent problems. The thing is, accessing
>>the camera causes the whole system to freeze. Some tutorials suggest its
>>a gcc version problem between the kernel gcc and the driver gcc.
>>Relevant modules loaded are:
>>spca5xx
>>videodev
>>v4l1-compat
>>v4l2-common
>>usbcore
>>
>>
>
>I don't know much, but how are you accessing the camera? what if you
>do a 
>
>cat /dev/video[0] > testvid
>
>does that cause a freeze?
>
>if not, can you play that file in mplayer or xine or whatever?
>
>this method sometimes works with tuner cards for example just to see
>if the thing is working. I just tried it with my webcam and it didn't
>really work, in that I got no playable video (probably due to
>compression), but at least it shows that there is info coming from the
>camera. 
>
>
>  
>
>>Other people seem to be using this webcam model quite successfully, with
>>various distros, so I believe its some troubleshootable thing which I am
>>missing badly.
>>Someone help?
>>
>>
> 
>
>I think that you can get spca5xx binaries from debian, its the gspca
>that needs compiling... at least in sid its spca5xx-modules-
>
>
>A
>
>
>  
>
>>Also, how do I figure which gcc version my kernel was compiled with? Its
>>a 2.6.8-3-k7 stock.
>>My gcc version is 3.3.5. Is that correct?
>>
>>thanks!
>>
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>>
>>
Hi andrew,
I tested the camera with the utility from the driver author, spcaview
and spcagui. Cat'ing /dev/video1 (video0 is a bttv card) froze the
machine just the same.

So, the problem is with the driver?


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setting a spca5xx webcam under sarge?

[Bruno Buys]

I'm trying to set up a 'Z-Star Microeletronics Corp.' webcam in this
sarge machine (name provided by lsusb, together with '0ac8:305b'. The
driver's website http://mxhaard.free.fr claims this is a supported
camera). After some googling, I downloaded the spca5xx driver and
compiled it with module-assistant. Everything went ok, and modprobe
inserts the driver with no apparent problems. The thing is, accessing
the camera causes the whole system to freeze. Some tutorials suggest its
a gcc version problem between the kernel gcc and the driver gcc.
Relevant modules loaded are:
spca5xx
videodev
v4l1-compat
v4l2-common
usbcore

Other people seem to be using this webcam model quite successfully, with
various distros, so I believe its some troubleshootable thing which I am
missing badly.
Someone help?

Also, how do I figure which gcc version my kernel was compiled with? Its
a 2.6.8-3-k7 stock.
My gcc version is 3.3.5. Is that correct?

thanks!


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Re: how to copy and/or rip DVDs with Debian?

[Bruno Buys]

vineyard saker wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> First happy new year to all!
>
> Second - please bear with me, I am a DVD-issue newbie & ignoramous,
> but I need some help.
>
> I am DESPERATELY trying to copy encrypted commercial DVDs but nothing
> works.  Programs such as k9copy or k3b get cold feet with encrypted
> DVD so I decided to use the very good and simple CLI tools dvdbackup
> and growisofs. This is what I did:
>
> First I make an image of the source DVD with:
>
> dvdbackup -i /media/hdc/ -M -o /home/vees/DVDBackups/ -n
> NameOfTheBackupedDVD
>
> And that works great.
>
> Then I tried burning the image to a DVD+RW with:
>
>   growisofs -Z  /dev/scd1 -dvd-video
> /home/vees/DVDBackups/NameOfTheBackupedDVD/
>
> This worked great too, as long as I copied small DVDs, less than the
> 4.7GB of a typical DVD+RW.  When I tried with a bigger DVD, the first
> part worked, but the burning did not.  Here is the error message I
> got:
>
> :-( /dev/scd1: 2295104 blocks are free, 3589847 to be written!
>
> I tried overburning with the -overburn  flag, but each time I got the
> same input/output error several times.  Here are two examples:
>
> 63.93% done, estimate finish Fri Dec 29 21:19:15 2006
> :-? the LUN appears to be stuck writing LBA=230540h, keep retrying
> in 23ms
> :-[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with SK=5h/ASC=63h/ACQ=00h]:
> Input/output error
> :-( write failed: Input/output error
> /dev/scd1: flushing cache
> /dev/scd1: writing lead-out
>
>
> 63.79% done, estimate finish Sat Dec 30 10:55:15 2006
>  63.93% done, estimate finish Sat Dec 30 10:55:15 2006
>  :-[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with SK=5h/ASC=63h/ACQ=00h]:
> Input/output error
>  :-( write failed: Input/output error
>  /dev/scd1: flushing cache
>  /dev/scd1: writing lead-out
>
> I turns out that I needed either a Dual Layer DVD+R (DL) or a Double
> Layer DVD-R(DL) which each have  8.5GB of space (This is the first
> time I had heard of such double-layer DVDs)
>
> Today I bought three DVD+R(DL) and all went perfectly until I stuck
> the DVD into my regular (living room) DVD player which could not read
> it!  I tried on my computer with mplayer and it could read it with no
> problem whatsoever so the DVD itself is not at fault.  I can only
> conclude that some DVD players do not play DVD+R(DL).
>
> Except.  Except that I was given several copied DVD by friends which
> my DVD player *did* play.  Which brings me to the only logical
> conclusion: there must be a way to "squeeze", for example, a 6.9GB
> movie into a "regular"  4.7GB DVD+RW.  (This is what the software of
> my windoze-using friends seemed to have done.)
>
> HOW DO I DO THIS WITH DEBIAN?!?!?!?!?!?!??!
>
> Also - the computer I work on is an ancient 300MHz machine without
> soundcard (too old) so there is no way for me to "check" a DVD on it.
> I can run it on anther computer (using a live-CD of BSD with mplayer)
> or I can try the living room DVD player attached to my TV.  This is
> the reality of not being rich and I cannot afford anything better.  In
> any case, I do believe that  dvdbackup and growisofs do not care about
> encryption in the least and they simply copy byte-by-byte regardless
> of what it is they are copying (yet another reason to use them instead
> of a GUI copying program).
>
> My burner is not the problem.  It can handle both DVD+R(DL) and
> DVD+R(DL).  Just in case, here is some info about my Maddog MegaSTOR
> 18X Triple-Format DVD-RW DVD burner (which supports Double Layer
> DVD+R/DL and Dual Layer DVD-R/DL at 8x)
>
> dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/scd1
> INQUIRY:[TSSTcorp][CD/DVDW SH-S182D][SB00]
> GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION:
> Mounted Media: 1Ah, DVD+RW
> Current Write Speed:   4.0x1385=5540KB/s
> Write Speed #0:4.0x1385=5540KB/s
> Write Speed #1: 2.0x1385=2770KB/s
> GET [CURRENT] PERFORMANCE:
> Write Performance: 4.0x1385=5540KB/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -> 2295104]
> Speed Descriptor#0:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> =5540KB/s
> Speed Descriptor#1:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
> Speed Descriptor#2:00/2295103 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
>READ DVD STRUCTURE[#0h]:
> Media Book Type:   00h, DVD-ROM book [revision 0]
> Media ID:  MKM/A02
> Legacy lead-out at:2295104*2KB=4700372992
> READ DISC INFORMATION:
> Disc status:   complete
> Number of Sessions:1
> State of Last Session: complete
> Number of Tracks:  1
> BG Format Status:  complete
> READ FORMAT CAPACITIES:
> formatted: 2295104*2048=4700372992
> 26h(0):2295104*2048=4700372992
>READ TRACK INFORMATION[#1]:
> Track State:   complete
> Track Start Address:   0*2KB
> Free Blocks:   0*2KB
> Track Size:2295104*2KB
>FABRICATED TOC:
> Track#1  : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Track#AA : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Multi-session Info:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Where to go to learn about reducing electricity use?

[Bruno Buys]

Reid Priedhorsky wrote:

>On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 01:40:11 +0100, Douglas Tutty wrote:
>  
>
>>On Mon, Jan 01, 2007 at 05:06:02PM -0600, Reid Priedhorsky wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I would like to make my Etch box use less power, but I'm having a hard
>>>time consolidating all the information I'm finding. Is there a package I
>>>can install or a web page I can read that is a gentle guide to reducing my
>>>power usage?
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>A good place to start may be something like the laptop-howto.
>>
>>What power are you trying to reduce?  Beware spinning down drives to
>>reduce power; spinning up reduces drive life.
>>
>>
>
>Hi Doug,
>
>Thanks for your reply. It is a self-built Athlon desktop, though I assume
>much of the advice in the laptop-howto will be relevant. I will take a
>look. I'm happy to provide more specs on the box if that will be helpful.
>
>I'm not really sure how to answer your question. I know that spinning down
>drives is not such a good idea, and that I can reduce processor speed when
>idle (though how I don't know), but beyond that I don't have a good idea
>of what options are available to me.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Reid
>
>
>  
>
reid,
athcool saves both temperature and power. Its a very simple script,
written for athlons.



[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show athcool
Package: athcool
Priority: extra
Section: misc
Installed-Size: 104
Maintainer: Nicolas Boullis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: i386
Version: 0.3.10-1
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), pciutils (>= 1:2.1.11-11)
Filename: pool/main/a/athcool/athcool_0.3.10-1_i386.deb
Size: 15508
MD5sum: 9132b0b9182d88272e4611a5a6ebc635
SHA1: c0eab09abcd0b166410bd2ff39fb1618df72ce16
SHA256: 662230d075c0c83295e7327fc837b8c708453899b0e849dcbcacfe4fc7aeedd7
Description: tool to enable powersaving mode for Athlon/Duron processors
 athcool is a small utility for enabling/disabling Powersaving mode
 for AMD Athlon/Duron processors.
 .
 By enabling Powersaving mode you can lower power consumption and
 CPU temperature when the CPU is idle.
 .
 Powersaving works only if your kernel supports ACPI (APM does not
 work), because athcool does only (un)set the "Disconnect enable when
 STPGNT detected" bits in the Chipset's Northbridge. To really save
 power, the STPGNT signal has to be sent when the CPU is idling. This
 is done by the ACPI subsystem when C2 state entered.
 .
 !!!WARNING!!!
 Depending on your motherboard and/or hardware components, enabling
 Athlon powersaving mode sometimes causes:
 .
  * noisy or distorted sound playback,
  * a slowdown in harddisk performance,
  * system locks or instability,
  * massive corruption of the filesystem (observed at least once).
 .
 If you met those problems, you should not use athcool. Please use
 athcool AT YOUR OWN RISK.
 .
 If athcool works fine for you, and you want it to run automatically
 on startup, please read the /usr/share/doc/athcool/README.Debian
 file.



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Re: Poweroff problem

[Bruno Buys]

Torquil Macdonald Sørensen wrote:

> Hello,
>
> When running 'poweroff' my system does not power off. The last line
> printed on the screen is "acpi_power_off called". My grub/menu.lst file
> has no kernel options related to acpi or apm. After having searched the
> net, I have also tried the following four different kernel option
> combinations:
>
> acpi=off apm=on
> acpi=off apm=real-mode-poweroff
> acpi=ht
> apic=ht
>
> but none of them makes the system power down. For the first two of
> these, the last line printed on the screen was "System halted". I
> think that was the case for the last two as well.
>
> It is interesting that the system managed to power off one time using no
> grub/menu.lst kernel options, after having tried one of the acpi/apm
> options above on a previous boot, and then pressed the reset button.
>
> Power off was working on this machine a a couple of years ago, also
> running Debian (maybe Sid), with an earlier 2.6 kernel.
>
> My motherboard is an ASUS A7S333, with the newest BIOS version
> (rev1006), and AMD Athlon XP2200+. The software is Debian Etch from
> today. Thus I have kernel version 2.6.18-3-k7. Both 'acpid' and 'apmd'
> are installed.
>
> The ACPI related messages in the kernel log are:
>
> $ dmesg | grep ACPI
>  BIOS-e820: 0fffc000 - 0000 (ACPI data)
>  BIOS-e820: 0000 - 1000 (ACPI NVS)
> ACPI: RSDP (v000 ASUS  ) @ 0x000f5e80
> ACPI: RSDT (v001 ASUS   A7S333   0x42302e31 MSFT 0x31313031) @ 0x0fffc000
> ACPI: FADT (v001 ASUS   A7S333   0x42302e31 MSFT 0x31313031) @ 0x0fffc0b2
> ACPI: BOOT (v001 ASUS   A7S333   0x42302e31 MSFT 0x31313031) @ 0x0fffc030
> ACPI: MADT (v001 ASUS   A7S333   0x42302e31 MSFT 0x31313031) @ 0x0fffc058
> ACPI: DSDT (v001   ASUS A7S333   0x1000 MSFT 0x010b) @ 0x
> ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0xe408
> ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee0
> ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x00] lapic_id[0x00] enabled)
> ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x00] high edge lint[0x1])
> ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x02] address[0xfec0] gsi_base[0])
> ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 0 global_irq 2 dfl edge)
> ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 9 global_irq 20 low level)
> ACPI: IRQ0 used by override.
> ACPI: IRQ2 used by override.
> Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information
> ACPI: Core revision 20060707
> ACPI: bus type pci registered
> ACPI: Interpreter enabled
> ACPI: Using IOAPIC for interrupt routing
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 10 *11 12 14 15)
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 *10 11 12 14 15)
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 3 4 *5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15)
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15) *9
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15) *0,
> disabled.
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKF] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15) *0,
> disabled.
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKG] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15) *0,
> disabled.
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 10 11 12 14 15) *9
> ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (:00)
> ACPI: Assume root bridge [\_SB_.PCI0] bus is 0
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.PCI1._PRT]
> pnp: PnP ACPI init
> pnp: PnP ACPI: found 15 devices
> PnPBIOS: Disabled by ACPI PNP
> PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
> ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S4 S5)
> ACPI: Invalid PBLK length [5]
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:02.2[D] -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 177
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:02.3[A] -> GSI 23 (level, low) -> IRQ 185
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:0a.0[A] -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 193
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:05.0[A] -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 201
> ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF]
> ACPI: Power Button (CM) [PWRB]
> apm: overridden by ACPI.
>
> Best regards,
> Torquil Sørensen
>
>
I use the 'halt' command in three different debian machines. It always
worked for me. Did you try it?


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Where kde stores config files?

[Bruno Buys]

This is etch with kde 3.5.5. I'd like to find the config files responsible
for the right-click context menu in konqueror that display the 'eject'
function to open my dvd tray.
In sarge it used to be like ~/.kde/share/apps/something-like-servicemenu...
Anyone knows? thanks!

Nikon's usb mass storage fixed in etch, very nice!

[Bruno Buys]

I don't know if this is relevant to anybody else besides me, but
nikons d70s works as a usb mass storage device under etch! Mass
storage was broken on sarge, needed ptp stuff.
It makes me rememeber that other thread, 'debian love'...
I'm very glad!
cheers all!

Bruno


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kmail segfaults badly

[Bruno Buys]

Kmail segfaults badly, here. Last lines from strace are below.
Is there something I can do, besides removing/renaming any reference to
kmail inside ~/.kde or ~/kmail, which I already did?
The only uncommon thing around kde here is that I ugraded to the
backported version, which rendered my control center empty (only digital
camera icon, actually). But kde does work ok, and is my default dm. This
was like months ago.

system: sarge updated today
kde: 3.5.0, as reported by kcontrol
kernel: stock 2.6.8-2-k7


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ strace kmail
execve("/usr/bin/kmail", ["kmail"], [/* 30 vars */]) = 0
uname({sys="Linux", node="frank", ...}) = 0
brk(0)  = 0x804c000
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS,
-1, 0) = 0x40017000
access("/etc/ld.so.preload", R_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY)  = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=100585, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 100585, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40018000
close(3)= 0
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/lib/libkmailprivate.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\220~\22"...,
512) = 512
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=4351600, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 4360308, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE,
3, 0) = 0x40031000
old_mmap(0x4042d000, 180224, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x3fb000) = 0x4042d000
old_mmap(0x40459000, 2164, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40459000






access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/lib/libattr.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\340\r\0"...,
512) = 512
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=10824, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 13892, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3,
0) = 0x423cb000
old_mmap(0x423ce000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x2000) = 0x423ce000
close(3)= 0
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/lib/libgpgme++.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\300\336"...,
512) = 512
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=123784, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 126880, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE,
3, 0) = 0x423cf000
old_mmap(0x423ed000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x1d000) = 0x423ed000
close(3)= 0
old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS,
-1, 0) = 0x423ee000
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/lib/libgpgme.so.11", O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\200<\0"...,
512) = 512
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=127368, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 128472, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE,
3, 0) = 0x423ef000
old_mmap(0x4240d000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x1e000) = 0x4240d000
old_mmap(0x4240e000, 1496, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4240e000
close(3)= 0
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
open("/usr/lib/libgpg-error.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0 \10\0\000"...,
512) = 512
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=10924, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 13984, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3,
0) = 0x4240f000
old_mmap(0x42412000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE,
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x2000) = 0x42412000
close(3)= 0
old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS,
-1, 0) = 0x42413000
old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS,
-1, 0) = 0x42414000
old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS,
-1, 0) = 0x42415000
mprotect(0x40677000, 4096, PROT_READ)   = 0
set_thread_area({entry_number:-1 -> 6, base_addr:0x424151a0,
limit:1048575, seg_32bit:1, contents:0, read_exec_only:0,
limit_in_pages:1, seg_not_present:0, useable:1}) = 0
munmap(0x40018000, 100585)  = 0
set_tid_address(0x424151e8) = 4166
rt_sigaction(SIGRTMIN, {0x41977370, [], SA_SIGINFO}, NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGRT_1, {0x419773f0, [], SA_RESTART|SA_SIGINFO}, NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [RTMIN RT_1], NULL, 8) = 0
getrlimit(RLIMIT_STACK, {rlim_cur=8192*1024, rlim_max=RLIM_INFINITY}) = 0
_sysctl({{CTL_KERN, KERN_VERSION}, 2, 0xb5a0, 31, (nil), 0}) = 0
brk(0)  = 0x804c000
brk(0x806d000) 

slow usb under etch

[Bruno Buys]

My pendrive transfers files at ~1MB/s under my home sarge system, but
only ~100KB/s under my work etch. Its usb 1.1, but 100KB/s is slow
even for 1.1.
How do I get 1MB/s under etch?
thanks!



etch kernel is 2.6.16-2-k7 driving a athlon xp 2400+

sarge kernel is 2.6.8-2-k7 driving a sempron64 3400+.

work's etch lsmod:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsmod
Module  Size  Used by
nls_cp437   5696  1
vfat   11648  1
fat47068  1 vfat
usb_storage70144  1
isofs  32896  1
ipv6  218912  12
ppdev   8324  0
lp 10496  0
autofs416836  0
nls_iso8859_1   4032  3
ntfs  193804  1
ext2   57160  1
mbcache 7684  1 ext2
dm_snapshot15388  0
dm_mirror  17460  0
dm_mod 48180  2 dm_snapshot,dm_mirror
sd_mod 16464  1
scsi_mod  122700  2 usb_storage,sd_mod
snd_seq_dummy   3588  0
snd_seq_oss27812  0
snd_seq_midi8096  0
snd_seq_midi_event  6592  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq43852  6
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_via82xx25240  1
snd_ac97_codec 82848  1 snd_via82xx
snd_ac97_bus2112  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm_oss44128  0
snd_mixer_oss  15744  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm74504  3 snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer  20420  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc  9864  2 snd_via82xx,snd_pcm
snd_mpu401_uart 6656  1 snd_via82xx
snd_rawmidi22496  2 snd_seq_midi,snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device  8332  5
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
snd46400  13
snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
shpchp 39424  0
i2c_viapro  7956  0
i2c_core   19536  1 i2c_viapro
pci_hotplug24308  1 shpchp
parport_pc 31728  1
parport32008  3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc
analog  9888  0
ns558   4484  0
via_ircc   23252  0
floppy 55916  0
irda  161596  1 via_ircc
via_agp 9408  1
agpgart29296  1 via_agp
crc_ccitt   2048  1 irda
soundcore   8736  1 snd
gameport   13576  4 snd_via82xx,analog,ns558
psmouse34504  0
serio_raw   6532  0
tsdev   7296  0
mousedev   10496  1
evdev   8832  1
rtc11444  0
pcspkr  3012  0
reiserfs  218096  1
usbhid 32416  0
ide_cd 35680  1
cdrom  32240  1 ide_cd
ide_disk   14720  5
generic 4228  0 [permanent]
via82cxxx   8068  0 [permanent]
ide_core  111536  5 usb_storage,ide_cd,ide_disk,generic,via82cxxx
3c59x  40104  0
mii 5248  1 3c59x
ehci_hcd   26952  0
uhci_hcd   26896  0
usbcore   36  5 usb_storage,usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
thermal13064  0
processor  21760  1 thermal
fan 4548  0


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Re: rescue distro on 128 meg usb key?

[Bruno Buys]

Matt Price wrote:

> hi,
>
> my dad is bringing me an old toshiba tablet (don't have the model
> number) that seems to be having serious trouble, possibly a disk
> failure.  I will probably install a linux distro on it eventually, but
> will have to figure out what makes the most sense for this kind of
> machine (limited speed & memory, but pretty specialized needs, esp for
> the touch screen).  For now though I just want to try and boot the
> thing.  apparently the external usb hard drive my dad has for the
> thing won't boot, and I don't have any on hand.  I currently have only
> one usb key, which is 128 megs, and I was wondering if anyone knew of
> a distro that would run off of a removable medium this small.
>
> thanks as always for the help!
>
> matt
>
>
sysresccd is a nice tool, tough i don't know how is it going to deal
with a tablet...
http://www.sysresccd.org/Download


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Re: Please trim replies.

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Steve Kemp wrote:

>  Please, to make this mailing list a nicer place, could I ask
> people to trim messages they are replying to?
>
>  
>
That'd be a very good idea. It has implications on server load as well.


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Re: micro debian

[Bruno Buys]

Douglas Tutty wrote:

>Does anyone know of a project to make a micro-distribution of debian for
>use on older hardware?  Eg 486, 32 MB, 100 MB.  One problem with
>installing with Woody and upgrading is that the list of packages in Main
>is so huge it takes up a good chunk of disk space (and memory space when
>using aptitude).  Its getting harder and harder to use old hardware for
>things like firewalls or print servers not because the application needs
>more oompf but because the package managment system takes up so much
>space.
>
>I would like a simple system that can be kept up-to-date (i.e. remain
>part of stable) with security updates and all, with the following
>capabilites/programs (in no order):
>
>   mc
>   lynx
>   wget
>   shorewall
>   bzip2
>   tar
>   vim
>   mutt
>   exim4
>   lpd (more advanced spoolers take up a lot of room)
>   minicom
>   setserial
>   ssh
>   mgetty
>   man pages
>   installation manual, debian-reference, shorewall docs,
>   harden-doc, etc
>   basic X with a pdf reader for documentation that is only in pdf
>   (e.g. hardware documentation on CD)
>
>
>The driving force behind this is the experience of having my main
>computer totally die suddenly.  The only hardware I had that worked was
>the 486 and initially only a 171 MB hd.  The only media I had was a
>woody CD set.  Backup media was CD, Zip, and floppy (intentionally, so
>that worked as planned).  I later found a larger hard drive so I could
>update.
>
>For ancillary computer uses (e.g. a firewall), having an install option
>that focuses on a small footprint would be usefull, eg. no man pages,
>no documentation, etc since that's all on the main computer.  This
>suggests a modified package installation where the documentation doesn't
>get installed.  However, for security I would want to use the regular
>debian packages.  I don't want a totally separate distro.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Doug.
>
>
>  
>
I installed sarge base-install in a amd 300mhz, 64mb and 20gb hdd. It
worked ok for like one year. I still keep it around, but not powered on
all the time. With 100mb hdd I don't think debian would like it, maybe
with ther larger hdd you mentioned. A 486 with 32mb would be slow but
feasible. The bottleneck is really diskspace.
Why don't you try a base-install on it, and skip completely the step for
installing more software (can't remember the exact name...), keeping
only the base system? Maybe it fits in, say, 200mb.
If you decide for a separate firewall distro, though, i recommend
brazilfw, which is the successor of coyote linux:
http://www.brazilfw.com.br/forum/portal.php.


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Re: Community hostility [Was Recent spam increase]

[Bruno Buys]

Mike McCarty wrote:

> Kent West wrote:
>
>> Mike McCarty wrote:
>>
>>> If people around here (and elsewhere) would quit treating Linux/GNU
>>> project as if it were a religion, a political statement, a way to
>>> change the world paradigm, a poke in the eye at the mythically evil
>>> MicroSoft Empire, an end to capitalism as we know it, and a triumph
>>> of the downtrodden masses over the evil rich in general, and treat it
>>> as an Operating System and associated Support Programs we'd ALL
>>> be better off.
>>
>>
>> I chose Debian years ago, and continue to do so, for its
>> philosophical value as an OS, not for its technical value as an OS.
>> So I'm not quite sure your statement here is accurate.
>
>
> IMO, an OS does not have a philosophical value. It is a computer
> program.
>
> OTOH...
>
> The considerations which entered into your choice to use
> an OS are a personal matter, and one which may be a valid
> topic for discussion here, as to the merits of one
> or other distro or OS. Certainly so. Especially to someone
> who is still trying to make a decision about whether to
> use Linux, or to use a particular distro, or is just curious.
> But hate mail is not attractive, nor is religious fanaticism
> about an OS or  distro, which is what I was trying to address.
> I guess I didn't make that clear.
>
> E.g., if one wants to discuss the merits of Linux vs. Windows,
> then "I think you should use Linux because it will make Bill
> Gates MAD! I want Microsoft to DIE! As long as you continue to
> use Microsoft products, you are playing into their hands! We
> need to KILL the EVIL EMPIRE NOW!" isn't a message which is good
> for Linux, good for Debian, or good for the GNU project.
>
> One which might be good, would be "I chose to use Linux, partly
> so that there would be competition with the Microsoft products. I think
> that the competition will be good for consumers, and probably make
> the Microsoft product better, as well. I also like the idea that
> I can get the source to the programs. If I use the Microsoft products,
> and they decide to drop support, then I have no recourse. With
> open source, I can continue to do my own support, or contract for
> it, if need be."
>
> Perhaps that illustrates what I'm talking about.
>
> I once commented here that I loaded Linux on my machine because I
> landed a software development/support contract, and was requested
> by my employer to do so. I was told, in very bold, explicit terms,
> that people like me, who loaded Linux for MERCENARY reasons (all
> caps were used as you see here) were not welcome here, and I should
> leave. So I pretty much did. I had had enough.
>
> Instead of being happy that Linux was making inroads into some
> commercial areas, and expanding its influence, the fellow was incensed
> that anyone would actually make any money from loading Linux. He acted
> as if he hoped that Linux never displaced any Microsoft installations at
> any company. One would think the hopes would be that Linux would do
> exactly that. But his emotions clouded this thinking.
>
> Perhaps that also illustrates what I'm talking about.
>
> Mike

To be honest, Mike and all others, the hostility in this list was worse
in the past. I felt some improvement in this respect. I don't follow
other linux lists to be able to compare, but in forums certainly there
are competition and hostility, so I don't think debian is a special case
of hostility.


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Re: Kernel alla debian

[Bruno Buys]

Pol Hallen wrote:

> Ciao a tutti :-)
>
> Ho sempre compilato il kernel scaricandolo da www.kernel.org
>
> senza aver mai avuto dei problemi :-)
>
> Che vantaggi avrei nel compilare il kernel presente nelle sources
> list? (scusate ovviamente la banalita' della domanda).
>
> Tipo: una volta installato con apt-get, va comunque configurato e
> compilato. Ma quando e' presente una versione nuova dello stesso
> kernel devo riconfigurare e ricompilare?
>
> Grazie!
>
> Pol
>
>
Hi friend, this is an english only list. I'm afraid ppl won't reply to
you because of that.

Debian kernels come in binary packages, you don't have to compile, just
install. If however you want sources, you can also install debian kernel
sources and compile it. Search make-kpkg for that. As long as I
understand, debian kernels have specific patches and configurations
which are maintained by the debian kernel team.



bruno


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Re: Petition about the Firefox trademark problem

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Paul E Condon wrote:

>On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 08:57:18AM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
>  
>
>>Steve Lamb wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hans du Plooy wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
Calling someone a weasel has never been a compliment


>>>   *covers his ferrets eyes*  Hey, there's children present!  Sheesh, some
>>>people.
>>>  
>>>
>>I enjoyed that post.
>>
>>Well, how about "Web Ferret"? "Ferret", AFAIK, only has neutral
>>connotations, and in this context, perhaps good ones (nosing around
>>for information).
>>
>>OTOH, why use a fancy name at all? How about "Debian Web Browser"?
>>
>>ISTM that the purpose of such fancy names has always been to
>>build brand recognition and brand loyalty. Why do you feel the
>>need to have such in a non-commercial product?
>>
>>
>
>The purpose of a name is to be a unique identifier. In computing, it
>is very convenient to have unique identifiers that have no embedded
>space characters. The need for unique identifiers in commerce is the
>reason trade marks exist. "Debfox" would probably not have trade mark
>problems, has no embedded spaces, signals the origin of thing and who
>has named it, and is terse. "Dbfx" is more cryptic possible name, and
>is very terse.
>
>  
>
So how about 'firetux'? A penguin of fire is as unlikely as a fox of fire.

sorry everybody, couldn't resist...


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Re: How to control display position?

[Bruno Buys]

Shawn Lamson wrote:

>On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 10:37:56 -0200
>Bruno Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>This is etch with up-to-date kde. The controls of my monitor are
>>locked (samsung syncmaster 753v, if someone knows how to unlock it,
>>please post), no idea why. So, where is that little app that lets me
>>control the position of the display in the screen?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>you can try xvidtune ... read up a little on it first as technically i guess 
>you can damage your monitor with it.
>
>--
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>
>
>  
>
xvidtune, though scary, did the job. So, thanks.


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Re: ntfs rw in etch??

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On 10/24/06, Johannes Wiedersich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Bruno Buys wrote:> This is etch recently installed in an athlon with a ntfs win> partition. Mount tells me it is writable. Can I trust? I didn't write> anything to it yet, just read. Writing to ntfs from linux sounds like
> a taboo, to me.>> /dev/hda1 on /media/hda1 type ntfs (rw,gid=1000,uid=1000)from the man page to ntfsmount (etch)NAMEntfsmount - NTFS module for FUSE.SYNOPSISntfsmount device mount_point [-o options]
DESCRIPTIONntfsmount  is a FUSE module that rely on libntfs. You need FUSEto com-pile it, xattr is recommended, but not mandatory.Fully implemented ntfsmount features:
   · Read-write access to normal and sparse files.   · Read-only access to compressed files.   · Access to special Interix files (symlinks, devices, FIFOs).   · List/Read/Write/Add/Remove named data streams.
   · Supports Linux and FreeBSD.Partly implemented features:   · Create/Delete/Move files and directories.   · Hard link files.I have no expierience myself how trustable that is...
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hp scanner 4670, someone installed it?

[Bruno Buys]

I was reading at sane's website this scanner is unsupported. Someone succeeded installing it?

How to control display position?

[Bruno Buys]

This is etch with up-to-date kde. The controls of my monitor are
locked (samsung syncmaster 753v, if someone knows how to unlock it,
please post), no idea why. So, where is that little app that lets me
control the position of the display in the screen?


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ntfs rw in etch??

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This is etch recently installed in an athlon with a ntfs win
partition. Mount tells me it is writable. Can I trust? I didn't write
anything to it yet, just read. Writing to ntfs from linux sounds like
a taboo, to me.


/dev/hda4 on / type reiserfs (rw)
proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
/sys on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620)
usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
/dev/hda2 on /boot type ext2 (rw)

/dev/hda1 on /media/hda1 type ntfs (rw,gid=1000,uid=1000)


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k3b ignores my speed settings

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K3b ignores my speed settings every time i try to record, either a cd or
dvd. I ask it to record on the lowest speed available, say 4x for a dvd,
and it does in 8x. This happens also after I ask it to refresh the
possible values, so i'm not asking for unreal values. This is k3b 0.12.2
in debian sarge.
thanks!


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Problems with gnupg, apt-get says 'no pubkey found...'

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Anybody having problems with gnupg and apt-get saying 'no pubkey
found...'? This is an etch install, apt-get complains not founding key
even after I do a

vmtesting:/home/bruno# gpg --keyserver keyring.debian.org --recv 4F368D5D
gpg: requesting key 4F368D5D from hkp server keyring.debian.org
gpg: key 4F368D5D: "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2005)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:  unchanged: 1

but when I apt-get update, apt says

Reading package lists... Done
W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release: The
following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is
not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907

am i missing something here?


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Etch new install can´t see my serial mouse

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Just installed a brand new etch on a athlon2400. Mouse is serial and xorg won´t load complaining 'no core pointer'.I tried both imps2 and explore-something (the only 2 options), but no good.I also tried to locate my mouse, doing:
cat /dev/input/mice (which is the suggested location, by dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg)cat /dev/ttyS0 (worked to me several times in the past)cat /dev/ttyS1cat /dev/ttyS2cat /dev/ttyS3None of them seem to have a mouse. ttyS0 when catted, throws a bunch of random unreadable chars in the screen without me even touching the mouse. When ctrl-c´ed, the prompt is left screwed. The other tty´s don´t cat anything at all.
any ideas?thanks!

Re: kernel mess

[Bruno Buys]

On 9/28/06, Bruno Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 9/28/06, Wackojacko <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> While reading (1) further, I bumped this:>>>>>> "Running the mixed setup on a workstation is not recommended, because>>> iptables, the XFS filesystem, non-free NVidia and ATI binary drivers do
>>> currently not support it.">>>>>> 'mixed setup' there is 32bit apps with 64bit kernels. So this might>>> concern me directly.>>>>>>

>> This is strange as I am using the Nvidia drivers on my 32 bit sid with a> 64bit optimised kernel, albeit self compiled.>Ok in search of clarity (or maybe sanity) I booted my 32 bit sid and
installed a 2.6.8 -k8 kernel (from sarge) to have a look at the/boot/config file to see if there were any differences with my Kernelconfig.  Unfortunately, my config, whilst specifing a K8 processor type,
is still x86_32 while the debian one is X86_64.  I failed to appreciate
that there was more to making a kernel 64 bit that changing theprocessor type to K8.  Sorry, it would appear that mixing 32 bit appsand 64 bit kernels doesn't seem to like the nvidia drivers after all.

That´s what I gather, also.This whole architecture thing on amd´s are quite confusing. I wish someone wrote a document explaining things clearly. It seems amd released the first semprons without 64bit extensions, then decided the include it. Semprons were firstly designed to replace durons, but actually are replacing athlons. When amd realized that, it started to back semprons more closely. So, there´s an architecture mess. Even my bios reports the cpu as 'AMD Hammer family, unkown model'. And abit´s website has no upgrade bios file to specifically address that, so far.
You see: the cpu I have is NOT an AMD64 cpu as stated by the cpu´s box or any other document. But it runs debian-installers for amd64. 

In fact there doesn't appear to be any amd64 kernels in sid i386anymore.  Maybe for this reason?Sorry for leading you astray!Wackojacko--To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to 

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]Hi friend!
I pasted the questions from your previous email here, for convenience. The ones above are answered inlineAs for the module not building I have a few more thoughts/questions
- you should be using 
i386.deb to build.I was using -amd64 while running k8 kernel.- are you attempting the build while running the amd64 kernel?Yes.- have you tried purging the nvidia-kernel-source and 

If I´d do this, it would remove my ok nvidia-kernel-source from k7 kernel as well, so I didn´t.deleting all the source code from /usr/src/modules and then reinstalling?This I didn´t try. Its a good idea. Its got a ton of dirs/files in there.
- debian/rules clean run from /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel may do thesame as the above.I´ll try that and/or the above.My thinking on the last two is there may be some leftovers in /usr/src from building the -k7 kernel module that is confusing make into thinking you are still running a -k7 kernel.
This is likely, indeed. I´ll try and let you know what happened.

clive i didn´t see your email before posting mine. Yes, I agree about chroot. But before moving to that, I´d like to understand all this more deeply. Right now I don´t feel confident enough.

Re: kernel mess

[Bruno Buys]

On 9/28/06, Wackojacko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> While reading (1) further, I bumped this:>> "Running the mixed setup on a workstation is not recommended, because>>> iptables, the XFS filesystem, non-free NVidia and ATI binary drivers do
>>> currently not support it.">> 'mixed setup' there is 32bit apps with 64bit kernels. So this might>>> concern me directly.>>
>> This is strange as I am using the Nvidia drivers on my 32 bit sid with a> 64bit optimised kernel, albeit self compiled.>Ok in search of clarity (or maybe sanity) I booted my 32 bit sid and
installed a 2.6.8 -k8 kernel (from sarge) to have a look at the/boot/config file to see if there were any differences with my Kernelconfig.  Unfortunately, my config, whilst specifing a K8 processor type,is still x86_32 while the debian one is X86_64.  I failed to appreciate
that there was more to making a kernel 64 bit that changing theprocessor type to K8.  Sorry, it would appear that mixing 32 bit appsand 64 bit kernels doesn't seem to like the nvidia drivers after all.
That´s what I gather, also.This whole architecture thing on amd´s are quite confusing. I wish someone wrote a document explaining things clearly. It seems amd released the first semprons without 64bit extensions, then decided the include it. Semprons were firstly designed to replace durons, but actually are replacing athlons. When amd realized that, it started to back semprons more closely. So, there´s an architecture mess. Even my bios reports the cpu as 'AMD Hammer family, unkown model'. And abit´s website has no upgrade bios file to specifically address that, so far.
You see: the cpu I have is NOT an AMD64 cpu as stated by the cpu´s box or any other document. But it runs debian-installers for amd64. 
In fact there doesn't appear to be any amd64 kernels in sid i386anymore.  Maybe for this reason?Sorry for leading you astray!Wackojacko--To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to 
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I pasted the questions from your previous email here, for convenience. The ones above are answered inlineAs for the module not building I have a few more thoughts/questions- you should be using 
i386.deb to build.I was using -amd64 while running k8 kernel.- are you attempting the build while running the amd64 kernel?Yes.- have you tried purging the nvidia-kernel-source and 
If I´d do this, it would remove my ok nvidia-kernel-source from k7 kernel as well, so I didn´t.deleting all the source code from /usr/src/modules and then reinstalling?This I didn´t try. Its a good idea. Its got a ton of dirs/files in there.
- debian/rules clean run from /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel may do thesame as the above.I´ll try that and/or the above.My thinking on the last two is there may be some leftovers in /usr/src from building the -k7 kernel module that is confusing make into thinking you are still running a -k7 kernel.
This is likely, indeed. I´ll try and let you know what happened.

Re: kernel mess

[Bruno Buys]

Wackojacko wrote:

> Clive Menzies wrote:
>
>> On (26/09/06 11:46), Wackojacko wrote:
>>
>>> I run nvidia graphics drivers on my AMD64 3200+, in both 64 bit and
>>> 32 bit sid, so they definitely work.
>>>
>>> Here's what I do.
>>>
>>> ~apt-get install module-assistant nvidia-kernel-source
>>> ~m-a prepare (sudo or root)
>>> ~m-a a-i nvidia (sudo or root)
>>> ~dpkg -i /usr/src/nvidia-kernel-moduleX.deb (sudo or root)
>>> ~apt-get install nvidia-glx (sudo or root)
>>>
>>> Restart X.
>>
>>
>> Thanks for this.  A recent sid upgrade borked X and it would appear the
>> 'nv' module had disappeared.  I resorted to a backup system on a
>> different partition but avoided updating for a while.  I spotted your
>> post and thought I'd try to recover the main system and whoopie!
>>
>> I had to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg because I'd been playing around
>> trying to fix the problem orginally but other than that, I have the best
>> clarity of diplay I've seen  and it wsn't bad before :)
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Clive
>
>
> No problem, glad it works for you as well.  Now if we could only work
> out what was wrong with the OP's setup :)
>
> Wackojacko
>
>
Hi again wackojacko, thanks for the interest. I am as much lost as you,
in this.
I kinda gave a bad name to my thread, it seems. There are three kernels
installed here, but this isn't the real problem. Let me try to re-state
the whole thing:

I was running 2.6.8-2-k7 stock kernel on a abit kv8-pro board with a
sempron 2600+. That was a traditional i386 install, no problem, very
nice desktop, lots of apps installed the debian way and a few of
compiled ones.
Then I purchased a new cpu, a 'sempron64' 3400+. I only changed the cpu,
the rest of the system remains the exactly same. There seems to be some
confusion regarding the terminology of amd 64bit cpu's, as I can see
from (1).
After booting the new cpu, I went to see if I had software support to
benefit from the new instructions x86_64 and sse3. There the confusion
began. Sse3 was clarified first, it is called 'pni' (from 'prescott new
instructions') by the kernel folks, which is why there's no 'see3' under
my cpuinfo. x86_64 wouldn't appear anywhere, so I started to think that
kernel-something had to be done.
Then I begun to figure out what architecture was the new cpu. What I
know for sure is: cpu is a 'hammer family', still unknown to the bios.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 44
model name  : AMD Hammer Family processor - Model Unknown
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : 2043.279
cache size  : 256 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm
3dnowext 3dnow pni
bogomips: 4038.65


These two kernels are installed alongside my 2.6.8-2-k7 and all of them
boot and run and don't panic:
kernel-image-2.6.8-11-amd64-generic - Linux kernel image for version
2.6.8 on generic x86_64 systems
kernel-image-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.8 on
AMD64 systems


This is the exact processor:
http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/details.aspx?opn=SDA3400AIO3BX


So, from the point of view of the software, I am running a 32bit system.
But the hardware is able to run 64bit (amd64) debian-installers from (2).

Firstly, I need to know what arch am I running now.
Then I need to know if reinstalling from scratch will pay off, in terms
of performance.
The other questions that came up are:

- Is the amd64 port as complete as i386?
- Am I not using any x86_64 extension if I stick to 2.6.8-2-k7?


While reading (1) further, I bumped this:

"Running the mixed setup on a workstation is not recommended, because
iptables, the XFS filesystem, non-free NVidia and ATI binary drivers do
currently not support it."

'mixed setup' there is 32bit apps with 64bit kernels. So this might
concern me directly.


(1) -
http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id250846

(2) - http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/sarge-amd64/iso-cd/


Hope this all clear up. I guess the way to go would be to reinstall from
scratch at some time in the future. The problem is I have a ton of apps
installed, and going through all the hassle again freaks me out. Also
the completeness of the amd64 archive is a concern.


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Re: kernel mess

[Bruno Buys]

Wackojacko wrote:

> Bruno Buys wrote:
>
>> On 9/26/06, *Bruno Buys* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>
>> On 9/26/06, *Wackojacko* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>
>> George Borisov wrote:
>> >  Bruno Buys wrote:
>> >
>> > >I then installed two more kernels to play with:
>> > >the 2.6.8-12-amd64-generic and the 2.6.8-12-amd64-k8. Both
>> boot and run
>> > >ok, but I failed to install nVidia drivers for these two
>> >
>> >
>> >  Do those binary drivers even support running under a 64bit
>> OS? I
>> >  think I remember reading somewhere that they don't.
>> >
>> >  I could be wrong on this one.
>> >
>> >
>> >  Hope this helps,
>> >
>>
>> I run nvidia graphics drivers on my AMD64 3200+, in both 64 bit
>> and 32
>> bit sid, so they definitely work.
>>
>> Here's what I do.
>>
>> ~apt-get install module-assistant nvidia-kernel-source
>> ~m-a prepare (sudo or root)
>> ~m-a a-i nvidia (sudo or root)
>> ~dpkg -i /usr/src/nvidia-kernel-moduleX.deb (sudo or root)
>> ~apt-get install nvidia-glx (sudo or root)
>>
>> Restart X.
>>
>> You may need the -legacy source and glx packages for older
>> hardware.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Wackojacko
>>
>> NB I use a custom compiled Kernel, but it shouldn't make any
>> difference.
>>
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>>
>> The package that fails to build is nvidia-kernel-source.
>> I guess this line is relevant:
>>
>> /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv.c:1: error: code model `kernel'
>> not supported in the 32 bit mode
>>
>> what do you think?
>>
>> I am runing x86_64. Must there be a nvidia-kernel-source for x86_64?
>
>
> I think this may be your problem, googling your error message suggests
> it comes up when trying to cross compile kernels also.  Have you
> downloaded the source from the amd64 mirror or the ia32 mirror, it
> must match the OS you are compiling on
>
> On my system in the 64 bit sid
>
> ls /var/cache/apt/archives/*nvidia*
> /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-kernel-source_1.0.8774-3_amd64.deb
>
> In 32 bit sid, mounted as chroot
>
> ls /emul/ia32-linux/var/cache/apt/archives/*nvidia*
> /emul/ia32-linux/var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-kernel-source_1.0.8774-1_i386.deb
>
>
>
>> If I fix the nvidia driver for one of these two 64bit kernels, when I
>> boot the 2.6.8-2-k7 back again, will it fail loading the driver?
>
>
> Yes, you need a kernel module for both kernel versions, not sure if
> you can just copy the module from one /lib/modules/kernelversion to
> another and expect it to work.  Never tried this though.
>
> HTH
>
> Wackojacko
>
>
Gee... I need to understand this conceptually. Otherwise I won't even be
able to follow people's advice.

Does 2.6.8-2-k7 use my cpu's x86_64 instruction set for anything at all?

Sempron64 equals AMD64? What optimization shall I stick to?






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Re: kernel mess

[Bruno Buys]

On 9/26/06, Bruno Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 9/26/06, Wackojacko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
George Borisov wrote:> Bruno Buys wrote:>>>I then installed two more kernels to play with:>>the 2.6.8-12-amd64-generic and the 2.6.8-12-amd64-k8. Both boot and run>>ok, but I failed to install nVidia drivers for these two
>>> Do those binary drivers even support running under a 64bit OS? I> think I remember reading somewhere that they don't.>> I could be wrong on this one.>>> Hope this helps,
>I run nvidia graphics drivers on my AMD64 3200+, in both 64 bit and 32bit sid, so they definitely work.Here's what I do.~apt-get install module-assistant nvidia-kernel-source~m-a prepare (sudo or root)
~m-a a-i nvidia (sudo or root)~dpkg -i /usr/src/nvidia-kernel-moduleX.deb (sudo or root)~apt-get install nvidia-glx (sudo or root)Restart X.You may need the -legacy source and glx packages for older hardware.
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The package that fails to build is nvidia-kernel-source.
I guess this line is relevant:/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv.c:1: error: code model `kernel' not supported in the 32 bit modewhat do you think?I am runing x86_64. Must there be a nvidia-kernel-source for x86_64? 

If I fix the nvidia driver for one of these two 64bit kernels, when
I boot the 2.6.8-2-k7 back again, will it fail loading the driver?

Re: kernel mess

[Bruno Buys]

Thierry Chatelet wrote:

> Bruno Buys wrote:
>
>>I upgraded my cpu couple weeks ago, from a sempron2600+ to a 3400+
>>(754). The thing is, 3400+ has the x86_64 instruction set. My current
>>stock kernel 2.6.8-2-k7 sees the sse3 instruction set (listed as 'pni'
>>below), but does not report x86_64 (i'm not sure if it doesn't see the
>>x86_64 or if it simply doesn't report it. Suggestions on how to figure
>>this out are welcome). I then installed two more kernels to play with:
>>the 2.6.8-12-amd64-generic and the 2.6.8-12-amd64-k8. Both boot and run
>>ok, but I failed to install nVidia drivers for these two, following
>>every suggestion on Andrew's guide
>>(http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html). Also
>>the kernel module for qemu would need to be reinstalled. So here's my
>>question: will the trouble of getting nvidia binary driver and kqemu to
>>work on some of these kernels pay off? I am better off sticking to my
>>2.6.8-2-k7?
>>
>>thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>frank:/home/bruno# cat /proc/cpuinfo
>>processor   : 0
>>vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
>>cpu family  : 15
>>model   : 44
>>model name  : AMD Hammer Family processor - Model Unknown
>>stepping: 2
>>cpu MHz : 2043.279
>>cache size  : 256 KB
>>fdiv_bug: no
>>hlt_bug : no
>>f00f_bug: no
>>coma_bug: no
>>fpu : yes
>>fpu_exception   : yes
>>cpuid level : 1
>>wp  : yes
>>flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
>>mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm
>>3dnowext 3dnow pni
>>bogomips: 4038.65
>>
>>
>>  
>>
> Here are some simpler instruction on how to install an nvidia driver;
> It works well.  The explanations are for i386, but you can use them
> for amd64. I installed one PC with it a few days ago:
> http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.txt


Hi thierry,
Module compiling (step 4 on this tinyplanet link) failed just like
before. Here's the last few lines, if it helps.

 
NVIDIA: calling KBUILD...
make CC=gcc-3.4 -C /lib/modules/2.6.8-11-amd64-k8/build
SUBDIRS=/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv modules
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8'
echo \#define NV_COMPILER \"`gcc-3.4 -v 2>&1 | tail -n 1`\" >
/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv_compiler.h
  CC [M]  /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv.o
/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv.c:1: error: code model `kernel' not
supported in the 32 bit mode
make[4]: *** [/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv.o] Error 1
make[3]: *** [_module_/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-11-amd64-k8'
NVIDIA: left KBUILD.
nvidia.ko failed to build!
make[2]: *** [module] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv'
make[1]: *** [build-stamp] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel'
make: *** [kdist_image] Error 2


Machine is

frank:/home/bruno# uname -a
Linux frank 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 #1 Sun Oct 2 21:26:54 UTC 2005 x86_64
GNU/Linux


I'm guessing the problem is nvidia's installer against debian way going
on here, as the document points out. If you can see something I can't
from these compilation lines, please let me know.


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kernel mess

[Bruno Buys]

I upgraded my cpu couple weeks ago, from a sempron2600+ to a 3400+
(754). The thing is, 3400+ has the x86_64 instruction set. My current
stock kernel 2.6.8-2-k7 sees the sse3 instruction set (listed as 'pni'
below), but does not report x86_64 (i'm not sure if it doesn't see the
x86_64 or if it simply doesn't report it. Suggestions on how to figure
this out are welcome). I then installed two more kernels to play with:
the 2.6.8-12-amd64-generic and the 2.6.8-12-amd64-k8. Both boot and run
ok, but I failed to install nVidia drivers for these two, following
every suggestion on Andrew's guide
(http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html). Also
the kernel module for qemu would need to be reinstalled. So here's my
question: will the trouble of getting nvidia binary driver and kqemu to
work on some of these kernels pay off? I am better off sticking to my
2.6.8-2-k7?

thanks!




frank:/home/bruno# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 44
model name  : AMD Hammer Family processor - Model Unknown
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : 2043.279
cache size  : 256 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm
3dnowext 3dnow pni
bogomips: 4038.65


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Re: Debian Love

[Bruno Buys]

Scott Lair wrote:

>Jason Martens wrote:
>  
>
>>It seems that morale is a bit low among the developers right now, so I
>>thought it might be nice for all of us users to remind them why Debian
>>is such an awesome project.  I love Debian. I love how the system works.
>>I love the quality of the packages.  I love that it lets me do what I
>>want to do, and does not try to dictate how to do things. 
>>
>>To all of you Debian developers, thank you.  I really appreciate the
>>work you do. Keep it up!
>>
>>Jason Martens
>>Debian Lover
>>
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>
>Absolutely agree, Debian is the best.  Every distribution I have used I have 
>kept
>looking for another one that I liked better - until now.  With Debian the 
>search is
>over!  I love apt-get/aptitude.  What a nice easy way to upgrade your system.  
>I 
>particularly enjoy reading about a package on the mailing list or wherever, 
>then running
>apt-get install package, then trying it out.  I run Debian stable on servers 
>and
>etch/sid on my laptop or other "fun" machines.  It's great.
>
>Debian developers, thank you.  You are doing a spectacular job.
>
>Scott Lair
>
>
>  
>
Since user-lists deal mostly with problems, one might get the feel that
problems are all that there is, here. This thread - which I endorse - is
one good idea. Someone considered posting it to debian-devel?


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Re: copy a dvd

[Bruno Buys]

Fred J. wrote:

>
>
> */Bruno Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:
>
> Fred J. wrote:
> ...
> Install k9copy from christian marillat source. k9copy is the linux
> dvdshrink option.
>
>
> I can't, first I use etch and k9copy is for sarge. second, it depends
> on kde and I use icewm.
>
> 
> Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great
> rates starting at 1¢/min.
> <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/postman7/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=39666/*http://messenger.yahoo.com>

I'd use dd, in that case.


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Re: copy a dvd

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Fred J. wrote:

> Hi
> I have a dvd, one that I placed in my tv-dvd unit and it played, with
> video and sound.
> I want to copy it, I have a dvd burner in my debian/testing. I mounted
> the dvd and was able to find out it had
> 1$ ls /mnt/
> audio_ts  video_ts
> 1$ ls /mnt/video_ts/
> video_ts.bup  vts_01_0.bup  vts_01_1.vob  vts_01_4.vob  vts_02_0.ifo
> video_ts.ifo  vts_01_0.ifo  vts_01_2.vob  vts_01_5.vob  vts_02_0.vob
> video_ts.vob  vts_01_0.vob  vts_01_3.vob  vts_02_0.bup  vts_02_1.vob
>
> how can I make a copy which I can also place in my tv-dvd player and
> it plays.
> I was reading in mkisofs but could not come up with a way.
> do I need to use growisofs to make an iso on the hard drive and then
> burn that iso onto the dvd. if so how please.
>
> thanks
>
> 
> Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.
>  

Install k9copy from christian marillat source. k9copy is the linux
dvdshrink option.


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Re: Using a debian desktop as a remote boot server?

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Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

>On Wed, Sep 20, 2006 at 08:48:07PM -0300, Bruno Buys wrote:
>  
>
>>Is it possible to use a debian sarge dektop as a remote boot server?
>>Please notice the desktop was installed without this use in mind, its a
>>rather conventional desktop, with lots of multimedia apps, office
>>software and personal files. And I'd like to keep using it this way
>>after installing the necessary remote-boot packages, if this is possible.
>>
>>
>
>Yes.  You want to look at LTSP.  I have deployed this at my church quite
>successfully.  In your case, I would not worry about how powerful the
>machines are, since you will likely not be running a dozen users
>simultaneously :-)
>
>Regards,
>
>-Roberto
>
>  
>
Thanks for the good news, Roberto! Just one more thing: do the terminals
need the eth remote boot function? I don't think my dinosaurs have this...


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Using a debian desktop as a remote boot server?

[Bruno Buys]

Is it possible to use a debian sarge dektop as a remote boot server?
Please notice the desktop was installed without this use in mind, its a
rather conventional desktop, with lots of multimedia apps, office
software and personal files. And I'd like to keep using it this way
after installing the necessary remote-boot packages, if this is possible.
We have two 'somewhat-current' desktop debian sarge machines, and
two very-old-but-working pc's lying around that may fit well as a thin
client. I'm trying to simplify maintenance tasks here (specially
backup), and maybe save energy. Last bills have raised this concern.
This is my config:

Currently:

frank (my desktop and to-be remote boot server):

Abit KV8-pro with 1GB ram (ram can improve if necessary)
gigabit ethernet via-velocity
AMD Sempron 3400+ 'Hammer family' 754
bttv card
Samsung 80GB sata I hdd (if the other desktop can be removed, I'll have
a second samsung hdd)

totoro (my girlfriend's):

Abit KV7 with 256MB
gigabit ethernet
Athlon XP 2000+ socket A
Samsung 80GB IDE hdd


gigante (first very-old-pc and currently unused):

Unknown Mobo with AMD K6-350 and 64MB ram (maybe I can dig an extra
128MB for it)
Realtek PCI ethernet


marcio (second very-old-pc):

PCChips mobo with a Pentium II 300 and 64MB ram
Realtek PCI Ethernet


If I remove totoro and deploy gigante, looking for boot in frank, is
this going to work well? Will the energy save be significant?


thanks and sorry for all the blablabla.







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How to measure stability?

[Bruno Buys]

Is there any way to objectively measure stability among debian
flavours? I mean, does anybody know of a webpage or project or something
to build statistics on bug reports? I'm asking this because every now
and then we have threads asking how much unstable unstable is, and the
replies are always like 'depends', or 'your mileage may vary' and such.
If a there's a good soul somewhere keeping statistics of broken
stuff and bugs grouped by packages and flavours, I'd  REALLY like to see it.


bruno


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Re: Issues upgrading cpu

[Bruno Buys]

Albert Dengg wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 01:36:45PM -0300, Bruno Buys wrote:
>
> >On 9/6/06, Albert Dengg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >>-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> >>Hash: SHA1
> >>
> >>On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 12:51:48AM -0300, Bruno Buys wrote:
> >>
> >>>I upgraded my cpu to a sempron with 64bit extension (Sempron 3400+ for
> >>>754, to be precise). After some googling and reading, I still can't
> >>>figure those out:
> >>>
> >>>- Why do some instruction flags don't appear at /proc/cpuinfo? sse3 and
> >>>x86-64, specifically. Do they have different names? (output follows).
> >>>According to a tom's hw chart, there's no such thing as a sempron 3400
> >>>for 754 platform without sse3 and x86-64.
> >>>
> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
> >>>processor : 0
> >>>vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
> >>>cpu family : 15
> >>>model : 44
> >>>model name : AMD Hammer Family processor - Model Unknown
> >>>stepping : 2
> >>>cpu MHz : 2043.189
> >>>cache size : 256 KB
> >>>fdiv_bug : no
> >>>hlt_bug : no
> >>>f00f_bug : no
> >>>coma_bug : no
> >>>fpu : yes
> >>>fpu_exception : yes
> >>>cpuid level : 1
> >>>wp : yes
> >>>flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
> >>>mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm
> >>>3dnowext 3dnow pni
> >>>bogomips : 4038.65
> >>>
> >>>The machine now runs a 64bit sarge netinstaller (which it didn't
> >>>before), so I know the 64bit instructions are there. Is the complete
> >>>64bit reinstall worth the hassle?
> >>
> >>just guessing...
> >>what kernel are you using?
>
>
>
> >kernel is 2.6.8-2-k7 stock sarge.
>
>
> >i havent tried though i doubt that a normal 686 or k7 kernel supports
>
> >>either of these extentions and therefore will not test for them...
> >>
> >>what does it say when you start the amd64 installer and open a console?
>
>
>
>
> >I didn?t try that. Will try as soon as I get back home.
> >thanks for the tips, albert. I?ll try some livecd?s as well.
> >One clue: mplayer?s ./configure told me arch is 'k8', instead of 'k7'.
> >By the way, here?s the processor:
> >http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/details.aspx?opn=SDA3400AIO3BX
>
>
> just fort your comparision, here is the ouput from my athlon64/3200+ (no
> sse3):
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
> processor : 0
> vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
> cpu family : 15
> model : 31
> model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
> stepping : 0
> cpu MHz : 1000.000
> cache size : 512 KB
> fpu : yes
> fpu_exception : yes
> cpuid level : 1
> wp : yes
> flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
> mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt
> lm 3dnowext 3dnow lahf_lm
> bogomips : 2007.25
> TLB size : 1024 4K pages
> clflush size : 64
> cache_alignment : 64
> address sizes : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
> power management: ts fid vid ttp
>
> yours
> Albert
>


Hi Albert,
SSE3 does appear at my cpuinfo, but its called pni, from 'prescott new
instructions'. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSE3.
yours,


bruno


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Re: Issues upgrading cpu

[Bruno Buys]

On 9/6/06, Albert Dengg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-Hash: SHA1On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 12:51:48AM -0300, Bruno Buys wrote:> I upgraded my cpu to a sempron with 64bit extension (Sempron 3400+ for> 754, to be precise). After some googling and reading, I still can't
> figure those out:>> - Why do some instruction flags don't appear at /proc/cpuinfo? sse3 and> x86-64, specifically. Do they have different names? (output follows).> According to a tom's hw chart, there's no such thing as a sempron 3400
> for 754 platform without sse3 and x86-64.>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo> processor   : 0> vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD> cpu family  : 15> model   : 44
> model name  : AMD Hammer Family processor - Model Unknown> stepping: 2> cpu MHz : 2043.189> cache size  : 256 KB> fdiv_bug: no> hlt_bug : no
> f00f_bug: no> coma_bug: no> fpu : yes> fpu_exception   : yes> cpuid level : 1> wp  : yes> flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
> mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm> 3dnowext 3dnow pni> bogomips: 4038.65>> The machine now runs a 64bit sarge netinstaller (which it didn't> before), so I know the 64bit instructions are there. Is the complete
> 64bit reinstall worth the hassle?just guessing...what kernel are you using?kernel is 2.6.8-2-k7 stock sarge. 
i havent tried though i doubt that a normal 686 or k7 kernel supportseither of these extentions and therefore will not test for them...what does it say when you start the amd64 installer and open a console?
I didn´t try that. Will try as soon as I get back home.thanks for the tips, albert. I´ll try some livecd´s as well.One clue: mplayer´s ./configure told me arch is 'k8', instead of 'k7'.By the way, here´s the processor: 
http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/details.aspx?opn=SDA3400AIO3BXyours,bruno 
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Issues upgrading cpu

[Bruno Buys]

I upgraded my cpu to a sempron with 64bit extension (Sempron 3400+ for
754, to be precise). After some googling and reading, I still can't
figure those out:

- Why do some instruction flags don't appear at /proc/cpuinfo? sse3 and
x86-64, specifically. Do they have different names? (output follows).
According to a tom's hw chart, there's no such thing as a sempron 3400
for 754 platform without sse3 and x86-64.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 44
model name  : AMD Hammer Family processor - Model Unknown
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : 2043.189
cache size  : 256 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm
3dnowext 3dnow pni
bogomips: 4038.65

The machine now runs a 64bit sarge netinstaller (which it didn't
before), so I know the 64bit instructions are there. Is the complete
64bit reinstall worth the hassle?


thanks!


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Re: Ethernet detect

[Bruno Buys]

List List wrote:

>I have a asus P4S800 motherboard, it has an onboard
>ethernet adapter.  When I try and install Debian Sarge
>3.1 it will not detect the ethernet adapter.  I tried
>knoppix and it detects and uses the adapter just fine.
> Is there any way to modify the hardware detect in
>Sarge or to have it try and detect the ethernet
>adapter after it has finished booting?
>
>Thanks
>
>
>  
>
I had a abit mb with via gigabit ethernet adapter that needed a more
recent netinst to detect the ethernet. Some old netinsts didn't have a
working via-velocity driver.
What ethernet adapter are you using?


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Re: Using cups remotely?

[Bruno Buys]

Alan Chandler wrote:

>On Tuesday 29 August 2006 21:07, Bruno Buys wrote:
>  
>
>>I have two networked sarge machines. One is printing successfully via
>>cups to a paralel hp printer. How do I set up the other machine to use
>>this one remotely, preferably as default?
>>Links/howtos/threads also accepted :)
>>
>>
>
>If you set up cups on both machines, they should talk to each other and 
>discover what printers are available.  I used to have a debian sarge box 
>(just recently upgraded to etch) with a printer on it, and a debian unstable 
>workstation running kde.  It just sees the other printer.  
>
>I have also told the main cupsys on the (ex) sarge box to also recognise a 
>windows printer which has been "shared" by my wife on here windows computer.  
>SO my workstation can also print to that .
>
>Get started here http://excess.org/docs/linux_windows_printing.html
>
>  
>
cups is already installed on both computers, but they don't seem to be
able to talk by themselves, as you say.
The one which will print remotely has no printer added, and I have to
add a new one. The problem is, I don't seem to be able to match the
correct URI for the remote printer.


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Using cups remotely?

[Bruno Buys]

I have two networked sarge machines. One is printing successfully via
cups to a paralel hp printer. How do I set up the other machine to use
this one remotely, preferably as default?
Links/howtos/threads also accepted :)

thanks guys!


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Re: [OT] google earth on linux

[Bruno Buys]

what do you mean 'closed source' driver? You refer to the 3d thing?On 8/18/06, Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:Hi,Google earth now comes with a Linux (closed source) driver.
That is sort of an interesting app.: you can go to anywhere on earth andzoom in and it keeps downloading the appropriate maps.Except... with a dialup line it always dies after a while.H
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dvd rewriter won't burn dvd-r double layer media

[Bruno Buys]

hi list,
I just bought a new dvd rewriter, lg gsa-4166b. In my first attempts to 
write dvd's, k3b won't write to dvd-r double layer.
I asked k3b to generate rock ridge extensions, as well as joliet. I 
didn't chose udf. In the advanced dialog, I chose 'allow 103 character 
joliet...' and 'allow untranslated iso9660...'.
It seems k3b recognizes my drive well, and it run a config again, in the 
first boot with the new device. The problem is, after hitting 'burn', 
k3b spends some 5 - 10 minutes eating all my cpu, then it starts 
'writing', but fails with something like 'drive reports this media as 
non-recordable'.


K3b's error log follows, removed the irrelevant part.

I have to try to figure what part is failing, if any, so I can return 
the drive in due time, if I'need to.


The drive is this one:
http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/262
http://www.lge.com/products/model/detail/gsa-4166b.jhtml

Before changing to this drive, I had a gsa 4160b working perfectly. 
Support to dvd-r double layer was the main reason for the change, so you 
might guess how unhappy i am now :(...


thanks for any inputs!


By the way, this is sarge. More sysinfo goes below.



k3b error log:

System
---
K3b Version: 0.12

KDE Version: 3.5.0
QT Version:  3.3.4
Kernel:  2.6.8-2-k7
Devices
---
HL-DT-ST DVDRRW GSA-4166B 1.02 (/dev/hdd, ) at /media/cdrom1 [CD-R; 
CD-RW; CD-ROM; DVD-ROM; DVD-RAM; DVD-R; DVD-RW; DVD-R DL; DVD+R; DVD+RW; 
DVD+R DL] [DVD-ROM; DVD-R Sequential; DVD-R Dual Layer Sequential; 
DVD-RAM; DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite; DVD-RW Sequential; DVD+RW; DVD+R; 
DVD+R Double Layer; CD-ROM; CD-R; CD-RW] [SAO; TAO; RAW; SAO/R96P; 
SAO/R96R; RAW/R16; RAW/R96P; RAW/R96R; Restricted Overwrite]


LG DVD-ROM DRD8160B 1.01 (/dev/hdc, ) at /media/cdrom0 [CD-ROM; DVD-ROM] 
[DVD-ROM; CD-ROM] [None]

K3b
---
Size of filesystem calculated: 4376021

Used versions
---
mkisofs: 2.1-unofficial-iconv
growisofs: 5.21

growisofs
---
:-( /dev/hdd: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 10015

growisofs command:
---
/usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray 
-use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=tracksize:4376021 
-use-the-force-luke=dao:4376021 -dvd-compat -speed=4 -overburn


mkisofs



...(removed)...



mkisofs command:
---
/usr/bin/mkisofs -gui -graft-points -volid 1o_dvd-r_DL_8.5GB_20060817 
-volset  -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR VERSION 0.11.20 (C) 2003 SEBASTIAN 
TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -publisher 1o_dvd-r_DL_8.5GB_20060817 -preparer 
K3b - Version 0.11.20 -sysid GNU-LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 
-sort /tmp/kde-bruno/k3bXvqtrb.tmp -rational-rock -hide-list 
/tmp/kde-bruno/k3by3Hxta.tmp -joliet -joliet-long -hide-joliet-list 
/tmp/kde-bruno/k3brX94ka.tmp -udf -untranslated-filenames 
-disable-deep-relocation -iso-level 2 -path-list 
/tmp/kde-bruno/k3bts0h9b.tmp




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Re: mp3 players with Debian (samsung and iriver)

[Bruno Buys]

If anyone is using any other mp3 player with Debian, it would be great 
if you could mention your models.


thanks,
->HS
PS: Target system is Debian Etch or Sid running 2.6.16 kernel.


i am using a starex mp3 player with debian. No big deal, its a (really) 
cheapo brand, usb 1.1, 1GB, with radio player, voice recorder, mp3 
player and usb storage. Works fine under debian sarge. I plug it in and 
debian creates a dir with my files. No need for additional driver, its 
usb storage only.
Here in brazil, these mp3 players have appeared with varying brand 
names, but they all look really the same.



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Re: command-line utility to write/edit iptc info?

[Bruno Buys]

Bruno, 


I've been running sid for nearly two years with no REAL problems as my
main work machine. I do mostly business type stuff -- word proc.,
email, browsing, accounting and little multi-media stuff now and
then. It works really well. The main thing is to use apt-listbugs and
watch debian-user for potential problems before doing an
upgrade. Also, it pays to watch the list of upgradeable packages very
closely. If there is any kind of big move happening, I'll usually
postpone my upgrade for a week or two to see what happens. If a big
set of upgrades causes a big spurt of activity on debian-user, then
I'll wait even a little longer for things to sort themselves out. I
probably do an upgrade on a roughly weekly basis though occaisionaly
I'll wait as long as a month (like when xorg moved in...). my
understanding is that in sid things break more often, but are fixed
much faster than in testing. If something breaks in testing it can be
a long time before it comes back.
 

And do you think it pays off, to manage your machine this way? I mean, 
is sid worth the work? With time, I have come to think that, in reality, 
every program that I tried to install I succeeded, in one way or 
another. Be it by compiling, checkinstalling, apt-get... which is why 
debian is my choice. Except for one or another stubborn (but not 
critical) softwares, I have everything I need. Back in my suse days, 
compilation was a faded-to-failure option.
I also have the feeling that the more you learn, the less important the 
differences between debian flavours are. My current sarge install has 
things from backports, a bunch of compiled software, and even some small 
things from etch and sid (the mix that ron called 'recipe for disaster', 
hehehe...) so it's not even a out-of-the-box sarge system, anymore. the 
exiv2 package, the reason for this thread, was installed by 
checkinstall, for example, with minimal effort. Now I have a .deb which 
is reinstallable, if needed. Isn't this one of the beauties of the whole 
thing? The flexibility and freedom of choice debian gives us?

That's why i'm asking you if is sid worth the extra work.

The situation of sarge today is not as bad as the last days of woody. 
When I first installed it, a default install was like ext2, kernel 2.2, 
kde 2.2(?... can't remember exactly..?). By that time, everybody was 
runing kernel 2.6...



If you're nervous about taking the plunge, maybe you could dual boot
sarge and sid for a while? also, I think you have to be careful using
--get|set-selections across releases as package names change...

ymmv etc.

A
 

I just remembered I must have a qemu virtual sid machine lying around in 
a backup. Its the only choice here, as I completely lack the disk space 
for a dual boot.
Luckily, i didn't do get/set selections across releases, but just across 
upgrades. Thanks for calling my attention to this, as I would probably 
not notice and a release-upgrade would certainly catch me on that.  



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Re: command-line utility to write/edit iptc info?

[Bruno Buys]

Ron Johnson wrote:


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ron, My sources.list won't list exiv2. What repo does your come
from? apt-get.org also doesn't list anything. thanks!
 
 


Maybe you're running Sarge or Etch?

$ apt-cache policy exiv2
exiv2:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: 0.10-1
Version table:
   0.10-1 0
  500 ftp://debian.uchicago.edu unstable/main Packages

   



 


Yes, running sarge. But that's ok, I compiled it from the dev's website.
The guy provides a .deb but it must be for etch or sid also, in sarge it
results in broken deps.
exiv2 seems to be quite good, ron, thanks!
   



You could also:
1. Download the source packages and build them on Sarge.  This link
  points to all the necessary source packages:
 http://packages.debian.org/unstable/graphics/exiv2

2. Upgrade to Etch or Sid.  If you have a desktop, that's not too
  scary.
 

1. When the debian page says 'depends on such and such other packages', 
aren't they going to mess my sarge install? I mean, if this is a sid 
page referring to sid packages, I am not supposed to try to install 
these on my sarge, am I (because I already have the sarge versions of 
everything)?


2. Yes, I thought of doing this a zillion times. Question is, I have 
seen troubled ppl looking for help over a broken/messed system for one 
reason or another. Fairly put, it doesn't happen all the time (and 
mainly with brazilian users at debian-users-portuguese, that apparently 
can't read english docs easily -- debian portuguese documentation is 
good, but reading english would help a lot). I find myself always 
postponing this move. My current sarge install is 2 years old, and I 
have installed a lot of things without decently documenting what I did. 
If something breaks its gonna be a pain to track it. I know there's dpkg 
--set-selections/dpkg --get-selections if needed. I'd rather have a 
testing machine...

How much is etch ahead of sarge? which one you run?


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Re: command-line utility to write/edit iptc info?

[Bruno Buys]

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ron, My sources.list won't list exiv2. What repo does your come
from? apt-get.org also doesn't list anything. thanks!
   



Maybe you're running Sarge or Etch?

$ apt-cache policy exiv2
exiv2:
 Installed: (none)
 Candidate: 0.10-1
 Version table:
0.10-1 0
   500 ftp://debian.uchicago.edu unstable/main Packages

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Jefferson LA  USA

Is "common sense" really valid?
For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
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Yes, running sarge. But that's ok, I compiled it from the dev's website. 
The guy provides a .deb but it must be for etch or sid also, in sarge it 
results in broken deps.

exiv2 seems to be quite good, ron, thanks!


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