DCHP
Hi you all, I am a LAN member and I am experiencing a strange behaviour with dchp ip renewal. Every time I restart my Lenny I obtain a new ip addr from one of the 2 dhcp servers. We have a 1 month lease on this servers and this should never happen within this period. any experience on this? regards raffaele
Re: DCHP
Yes that's the point, I know you can map a mac address to ensure a static ip but my network admin said this should not be necessary because of the 1 month lease on the servers (running debian etch) I must say I do not know how dchp works exactly, I am a poor web application developer :-) So finally I guess this is the standard behaviour of a dhcpd daemon, at least on linux boxes? regards ra 2008/3/14, Chris Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi, > > > On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Cassiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Every time I restart my Lenny I obtain a new ip addr from one of the 2 > dhcp > > servers. We have a 1 month lease on this servers and this should never > > happen within this period. > > You can't guarantee what IP address you'll receive with DHCP. If you > wanted to ensure static ip on your host, you should the following > lines to dhcpd.conf on the DHCP servers (if it is a linux/UNIX-based > dhcpd): > > host { > hardware ethernet ; > fixed-address ; > } > > That will ensure that your host (identified with MAC address) will > receive the same IP. > > Does that helps? Or you have other intentions? > > > Chris >
GRUB Error 17
Hello list, as you guess I am having serious boot problems, grub loading fails at stage 1.5 with "Error 17". I did not install/re-install anything, resize partitions or anything else could do something wrong. I was trasferring data from my usb HD when the process stopped (input/output error) and the system went completely frozen. >From that moment on I can not boot from HD. Using knoppix I can read all partitions... exept /home and / I tried to reinstall grub on MBR using the ubuntu studio rescue (apologize for that :-) ) and SGD (Super Grub Disk). The former stops during device mapping, showing partitions like /dev/sd1, /dev/sd2 and so on which is quite absurd, the latter is unable to install grub on the MBR (for the same problem I guess ...) and to boot any of the two OS (XP is there, but I do not boot it from ages ) I would prefer not to do a fresh install if not necessary even if my data are backed up on a safe partition. Any ideas? Can I resume my lenny? regards raffaele
Ardour2
hello list, any ideas about how long do we have to wait for ardour to re-enter testing distribution? r
PCI: BIOS Bug: MCFG area at e0000000 is not E820-reserved
Hi you all, I got this line in dmesg output and my PCI audio card (Terratec DMX 6fire) not working at all. Can someone tell me if this bug (a kernel bug probably, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=480513) prevents PCI cards from working? or my audio card has compatibility problems with recent motherboards? I recently updated my linux box to AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ on an ASUS M3A motherboard, debian lenny and 2.6.24-1 kernel. regards raffaele
mysql-server - no debug?!
hi list, can anybody explain why mysql-server is shipped with no debugging support enabled in debian? It seems to me quite strange... I think everybody wants debugging enabled while working with massive data storage regards
Re: Dual Monitor with Xinerama
2008/7/15 Volkan YAZICI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Cassiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I had the same problem with my desktop and I solved by disabling > > secondary monitor (so the primary become Screen0) + restarting Xserver > > + enabling secondary again (now it become Screen1) using > > nvidia-settings app > > Do I need to do this everytime I want to use an external monitor? Would > you mind sharing your modified xorg.conf after nvidia-settings updated > it? no, you don't, it's safe to unplug the external monitor. just take care of linux-image updates because you must repeat the compile+install steps to match nvidia-kernel-source version with your kernel > > > > From you xorg.log it seems you have no nvidia-glx driver installed or > > that it does not load due to a recent kernel update (I guess), have a > > look to this how-to > > I didn't install nvidia-glx driver. AFAIK, it isn't something necessary > for Dual Monitor + Xinerama, right? well, I don't know, I just followed the howto and it worked fine ;-) > > > > Regards. raffaele here is my xorg.conf # nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings # nvidia-settings: version 1.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Tue Jun 24 10:44:02 PDT 2008 # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig # nvidia-xconfig: version 1.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Tue Jun 24 10:54:02 PDT 2008 Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Layout0" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 Screen 1 "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0" InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "extmod" Load "type1" Load "freetype" Load "glx" EndSection Section "ServerFlags" # Removed Option "Xinerama" "0" Option "Xinerama" "1" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # generated from default Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "no" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # generated from default Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Unknown" ModelName "Maxdata (RogenTech) Belinea1930S1" HorizSync 30.0 - 83.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 76.0 Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor1" VendorName "Unknown" ModelName "Philips 150S" HorizSync 30.0 - 63.0 VertRefresh 56.0 - 76.0 EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Device0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation" BoardName "GeForce 6150" BusID "PCI:0:5:0" Screen 0 EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard1" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation" BoardName "GeForce 6150" BusID "PCI:0:5:0" Screen 1 EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" Monitor"Monitor0" DefaultDepth24 Option "TwinView" "0" Option "metamodes" "DFP: nvidia-auto-select +0+0" SubSection "Display" Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen1" Device "Videocard1" Monitor"Monitor1" DefaultDepth24 Option "TwinView" "0" Option "TwinViewXineramaInfoOrder" "CRT-0" Option "metamodes" "CRT: nvidia-auto-select +0+0" EndSection
Re: [OT] Looking for a Debian based Linux distro
have a look at http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/ 2008/7/18 Santanu Chatterjee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Everybody, > > This might be a bit off-topic. Anyway, I am looking for a Debian based > Linux distribution (liveCD or something that can be installed on a > pendrive) that is mostly command line oriented (just a fluxbox like > WM maybe, but most of the things done via command prompt, also > with C/C++/Python available 'out of the box'). > > Does anyone know of anything that fits the above requirement? > Otherwise I might have to start with Sidux and use aptoncd or something > like that to create one. > > Regards, > Santanu Chatterjee > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: Test
just stop testing on this list ra 2008/8/26 Zaki Akhmad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Just ignore > > -za, > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: Sound driver configuration issue?
Install qjackctl and look at the connections between "client" and "server" appz in the connections panel, probably there's something wrong in there. Be sure that your mic is the only source/input for audacity... maybe system playback is routed to audacity ins however I suggest you to use ardour-gtk on etch regards > > However, I think I've got something set wrong in the mixer. When I am > recording, anything playing in another program will get picked up by > the audio capture (e.g. playing a background track in Audacious while > trying to record a solo track through Audacity, the background track > will show up in the recording). I can tell I'm not just picking up > speaker sounds on the microphone, since this happens even with the > speakers off. I tried disabling one of the two "capture" devices in > alsamixer, but one of them has no effect and the other just kills all > recording, both internal sounds and microphone.
Re: sound popping on powerbook DVI
If "the sound often clicks" probably you need the Ingo Molnar real-time patch in order to obtain a "Complete Preemption" (low latency kernel) that's good for audio stuff. regards 2008/9/8 Jeff Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Thanks Elijah, but unfortunately that didn't solve the problem. In addition > I've found that sound quality sometimes lapses into what sounds like a 22 or > 11 khz samplerate. Very strange. > > I'm compiling a fresh kernel, just to see if that happens to fix it, but > otherwise I'm not sure what to do. Where would I report this bug, > www.kernel.org? > > -Jeff > > elijah r. wrote: > >> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Jeffrey Loren Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> >>> Dear Debian-ers, >>> I've tried a few distributions of gnu Linux on my powerbook, and Debian >>> is >>> the best that I found. I'm now synced with the latest Lenny updates and >>> it's >>> working great. >>> The only thing I had to configure manually was to put the line >>> "snd-powermac" in /etc/modules to get sound to automatically work after >>> booting. The problem is that sound often clicks. If I use the trackpad it >>> clicks horribly in addition to the regular clicking. A usb mouse doesn't >>> seem to aggravate the clicking. I've tried totem movie player and VLC. >>> I've searched on google and this list's archives for a solution but >>> haven't >>> found a solution. I would definitely appreciate any help! >>> >>> >>
Re: apache2 in Debian - adding vhost - which file to edit?
2008/9/9 Zach Uram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I am trying to add a name based virtual host to apache2-mpm-prefork > version 2.2.9-7 on Debian lenny/sid. > > First I read to edit /etc/apache2/httpd.conf but this file it seems is > empty and not used in Debian. > > Then I read to edit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf but it seems that is > also not the right place for adding it so then > I found the file /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default > > This is the correct file to edit? I was told to add my section to it such > as: > > > . > > > yes, but 000-default file should be left alone with standard directives for your DocRoot /var/www/ then you should put directives for any other web site you are going to add in a separate file in /etc/apache2/sites-available/ and then create a symlink to it in > /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ so you can simply remove the symlink if you ever want to put sites offline instead of commenting out lines on a single, maybe huge, conf file, moreover you gain better control on per site directives (before going online) http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/ regards >
Re: Debian AMD64
with `lspci |grep -i wireless` you can obtain enough information about your wifi card and the proper module to load and if you don't... google is your friend wifi kernel modules are in debian lenny and I think you should have wireless-tool and kwifimanager installed eg. on my laptop I got an "intel 4965" wireless card and the module to load is "iwl4965" regards 2009/1/7 Umarzuki Mochlis > right now, i'm having problem installing wifi driver for lenny. Now > trying with mad wifi, i how do i know which module to load?
compile lbgdal1-1.5.0 (maybe OT?)
Hi you all, don't know if this could be regarded as off topic, however it involves debian package building system. I am trying to build gdal libraries with ECW support ( http://trac.osgeo.org/gdal/wiki/ECW) because this compression format is not enabled in the standard package (it's not under GPL... maybe EULA). Steps are very easy, download ECW SDK source from http://ermapper.com/, configure && make && make install and then apt-source in order to get debian sources of libgdal. I then edit the debian/rules file in order to add ecw support and start building with dpkg-builpackage -uc but the whole process stops with this error: dh_shlibdeps -L libgdal1-1.5.0 -l debian/libgdal1-1.5.0/usr/lib dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: no dependency information found for /usr/local/lib/libNCSUtil.so.0 (used by debian/libgdal1-1.5.0/usr/lib/libgdal1.5.0.so.1.12.2). dh_shlibdeps: command returned error code 512 make[1]: *** [binary-common] Error 1 libNCSUtil.so.0 is part of libecw Any ideas on this? Is there any flag I can pass to dpkg-builpackage in order to override dependencies information check? I have tried with dpkg-buildpackage -d with no success, same error regards raffaele
Re: Software for creating web page
2009/2/4 seeds > On Feb 3, 4:10 am, Kevin Philp wrote: > > Tom Ashley wrote: > > > On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 08:56 -0800, Cahaya Lilin wrote: > > > > >> Hello all.. > > > > >> is there any one know what is a good software for creating web in > > >> linux like dreamweaver in windows ?? > > > > >> Thanx.. > > > > > I've never used them but > > > > http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Linux_software_equivalent_to_Wind...liststhe > following as similar linux software: OOWeb, NVU, KompoZer (fork of NVU > 1.0), Quanta Plus, Mozilla, Screem, Bluefish, Amaya. > > > > > Good luck. > > > > > Tom Ashley > > > > I have used a few and they are probably not like Dreamweaver. > > > > Quanta, Screem and Bluefish are HTML editors, they don't have a wysiwyg > > interface. They have useful little dialogues to help adding tags but > > that's about it. This is quite misleading and not true. Quanta is a full featured develop environment with a wysiwyg interface to switch to in alternative to the source view and many other plugins. cheers raffaele
kdesktop_lock
Hi you all, I am experiencing a strange behaviour with desktop locking...that is I can not unlock Unlocking fails everytime and I can only kill the kdesktop_lock process... any ideas? r
Re: How do I Install your Linux operating system.
2009/3/13 caleb rodgers > Hey how do I Install your Linux operating system on my computer I can only > access my database drive and I want to dual boot with Windows Vista. I have > like 80 GB of Hard disk space. I installed the battlefield 2 game on my > laptop. I have a AMD turion64 x2 processor and a built in broadcom wireless > network. What can I do please help me I want to protest against MICROSOFT > because the truth is I was hit by the downadup worm C version and I am > trying to remove the administrator rights from system and > trustedInstaller.exe person or something. Please help me in owning my > computer again if you don't here from me for awhile then they literally own > my computer. These guys who wrote this worm can take down air planes, own > banks and take out government computers and maybe lauch missiles un > suspectedly. Please Help me be able to solve this problem and prevent a > cyber terrorist attack that might be launched from my computer or used by my > computer. Wow! so we are going to save the world today!! can we put a debian stick on it after the job is done? Africa deserts? Russian steppe? > > > Thank You guys You Devian can be a hero this time in the cyber world. Relly I am not sure I am prepared for this... > > > Thank you please email me back as soon as possible. thank you and I hope > you are blessed if you do help me if not then I would have to ask Gentoo, > Ubuntu and other Linux distrubutors. basically what I am saying is you have > a mission to do right now. > > > Ok, let's say Omm
Re: snd-hda-intel Codec: IDT 92HD73E1X5 support in lenny
2009/3/18 Emanoil Kotsev > Kelly Clowers wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 13:51, Emanoil Kotsev > wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> can someone help me to get sound in lenny with the intel (Codec: IDT > >> 92HD73E1X5) snd card > >> > >> I read in the bugreports that alsa 1.0.19 should support it and > installed > >> from source but still no sound. I'm not sure it was really the 19 > >> version because it said it was 1.0.19 but after installing in > >> cat /proc/asound/version > >> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.18rc3 > > > > This might be because you didn't upgrade all of alsa. > > > > Part of my alsa (Sid packages) is 1.0.19, but cat /proc/asound/version > > says Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.18a. > > > >> or something > >> > >> the board is DG45FC. If someone could point me to a good howto it would > >> be enough > > > > > > http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Quick_Install > > > > When I had sound card issues, I found building alsa-drivers was enough. > > > > Make sure you have the linux-headers* package for your kernel > > > > Download the alsa-drivers tar.bz2 package to /usr/local/src/ > > > > # unpack > > tar -xvjf alsa-driver-1.0.19.tar.bz2 > > cd alsa-driver-1.0.19/ > > > > #build > > ./configure --with-cards=hda-intel --with-isapnp=no > > make > > > > # become root to install > > make install > > > > reboot (or a correct modprobe invocation might suffice) > > of course this doesn't make .debs, but it works, and is easy > > > thanks for the detailed instructions, I'll look at it in the evening. > I am willing to use lenny. > > thanks again and regards First, I suggest you not to do a configure && make && make install against debian packages I you need to compile from sources use the debian way, apt-get source alsa && dpkg-buildpackage Try to add this line at the end of your /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base options snd-hda-intel model=your_model on my lenovo laptop I added: options snd-hda-intel model=lenovo r
BUG in gnome-settings-daemon? dbus? pam?
Hi you all, I am experiencing this behaviour with gnome-settings-daemon: everytime I log in it takes a very long time and, once I logged, if I try to change the look of gnome I get this message: "There was an error starting the GNOME settings daemon. Some things, such as themes, sounds or background settings may not work correctly. The error message was: Did not receive a reply. (etc.)" Running from cli gives ** (gnome-settings-daemon:8539): WARNING **: Failed to acquire org.gnome.SettingsDaemon ** (gnome-settings-daemon:8539): WARNING **: Could not acquire name googling around I found hundreds of forum full with this message but none reported the solution (even if someone SOLVED in a totally obscure manner that didn't worked for me) I tried to add a new user and everything worked fine but when adding this new user to the groups I needed to belong to... things stopped working once again. Removing the user from every group fix the "anomaly" but obviously nobody can live with this limited user. Any suggestion? regards raffaele ps: I am on debian squeeze running a real time kernel with some other system tweaks in order to boost audio performance, e.g. in limits.conf @audio - rtprio 99 @audio - memlockunlimited @audio - nice -19 and a rc.local script with: chrt -f -p 99 `pgrep sirq-timer` chrt -f -p 99 `pgrep sirq-hrtimer`
Re: how to add a virtual directory in apache with support to php files?
install php modules (If you didn't yet) then add index.php to DirectoryIndex in dir.conf module inside /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ > > > > then i visit it by http://localhost/php/StarLiu/Welcome.php, but it > > pops out the download dialog to download the Welcome.php file. > > > > it seems i didn't configure it correctly, how can i fix it? thanks
Kill question
Hi you all, I recently compiled my own 2.6.26 kernel applying the Ingo Molnar's rt patch and *Processor type and features -> Preemption Mode -> Complete Preemption (Real-Time) -> Y Processor type and features -> Timer frequency -> 1000 HZ -> Y* enable deadline as the default IO scheduler enable HPET timer support enable enhanced real time clock support enable the high precision event timer The system boots and everything seems to be ok but after launchig qjackctl the jackd daemon doesn't stops anymore. If I try to stop it using qjackctl gui it refuses to shutdown and from bash happens the same. The result is I can't kill jackd using kill -9 PID The jackd daemon is listed in the ouptput of `ps -ax` with a 'DLs' staus and I can't start/restart it anymore. Everything it's ok with 2.6.26 generic... but no RT My box: amd64 dual core running debian lenny Can anyone help? regards raffaele
Re: OT: How to extract sound track from a DVD [SOLVED]
I would use transcode or DVDrip for a gui. r 2008/11/17 Thierry Chatelet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Monday 17 November 2008 15:11:06 David Schmidt wrote: > > google search for "dvd2mp3 linux" came up with this link. > > > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/dvd2mp3/ > > > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Thierry Chatelet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > Well, everything is in the title. > > > I have a DVD from a jazz concert I would like to extract the sound to > > > play it in my car. Can someone suggest tools or links? > > > Thanks > > > Thierry > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > > David Schmidt | http://www.fm5.at > > Thanks all. > Actually using correct vocabulary, ie ripping instead of extracting with > google, gave me a lot of answers. Here is the one I will use: > http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-rip-dvd-audio-to-mp3-or-ogg.html > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: whereis php
find / -iname php\* :-) 2008/12/12 Phillipus Gunawan > Hi there, > > I am using debian etch/lenny > I installed PHP5 using apt-get > I seems can not find my executable php > whereis php giving me result: > php: > thats it > > I also installed php5-cgi which also didnt give me anything > I expect to see my executable php in /usr/lib or /lib or somewhere similar > but already checked everywhere > > any help please? > > > Start your day with Yahoo!7 and win a Sony Bravia TV. Enter now > http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/?p1=other&p2=au&p3=tagline > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > >
Re: 64-bit Flash Player
There's also http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html just put libflashplayer.so into the mozilla plugins dir regards 2008/12/27 Osamu Aoki > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 12:47:30AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > > FYI: Currently it seems sid amd64 system has broken flashplugin-nonfree > at this > > moment. It was working :-) > > It works again: > $ sudo update-flashplugin-nonfree --uninstall > $ sudo update-flashplugin-nonfree --install > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > >
Re: 64-bit Flash Player
I can confirm it works perfectly on lenny amd64 I didn't try on etch but I will when come back to work... but I guess etch it's a little bit older, great improvements have done in lenny and surely flashplayer rely on latest libraries. regards 2008/12/29 Girish Kulkarni > On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Cassiel wrote: > > There's also http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html > > just put libflashplayer.so into the mozilla plugins dir > > This doesn't work on Etch. Can you confirm? > > -- > Girish Kulkarni - Allahabad, India - http://girish.50webs.com >
Re: 64-bit Flash Player
oh, apologize if I mislead you, my isp is .it so I can not try iplayer for bbc videos... I can only say that flashplayer now works fine on amd64. sorry r 2008/12/29 Girish Kulkarni > On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Cassiel wrote: > > There's also http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html > > just put libflashplayer.so into the mozilla plugins dir > > This doesn't work on Etch. Can you confirm? > > -- > Girish Kulkarni - Allahabad, India - http://girish.50webs.com >
Dell Precision Workstation T7400 - 32bit
Hi you all, has anyone of you managed to install debian on a Dell Precision Workstation T7400? It comes with the f***ing vista pre-installed and (obviously) I want to install debian... but the bios doesn't allow me to change the boot device order. Regards raffaele
Re: Dell Precision Workstation T7400 - 32bit
2009/4/7 Sharninder > > has anyone of you managed to install debian on a Dell Precision > Workstation > > T7400? > > It comes with the f***ing vista pre-installed and (obviously) I want to > > install debian... but the bios doesn't allow me to change the boot device > > order. > > > > Are you sure the BIOS doesn't allow you to change the boot order ? Try > pressing F-11 during POST. I've never seen a BIOS which doesn't let > the user change the boot order. I tried F* and finally got it with F2 I am now installing lenny from netinst :-) Thank you r
Re: debian testing
2009/4/7 Brent Clark > Daniel Dalton wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> How stable is debian testing (squeeze)? Is it worth updating to? Or >> should I wait a little bit until more development has been done? I used >> to run debian when it was testing, so wonder if squeez is this stable? >> >> Daniel. >> >> >> > Hi > > Im of the opinion that more people should be running testing (and if you > know what you doing / more braver - use unstable). > It works and it works very well. > > Here where I work, and at home too, I run debian testing. In the Ten years > that I have been running Debian, I can only remember that on two occasions > that I have experienced problems (but im sure the problem was more between > the keyboard and chair ;) ). > > Another thing is if more people would submit bugs. Really help the > maintainers. Help the project and community. > > The only problem I do have is with package management. I find it a bit > cumbersome and too tiring to even bother (Think Debian could learn from > FreeBSD). > > Anyway. > > HTH and hope you will give Testing a try. > > Kind Regards > Brent Clark +1 I run testing for non-production boxes from ages. If you want a more stable system you can use apt & pinning techniques to run a mixed stable/testing. Also, when in testing, have a look at BTS for packages you are interested in. regards raffaele
Re: debian testing
2009/4/7 Daniel Dalton > On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 04:29:42AM -0700, Thorny wrote: > > I suggest you wait until you can run a release version without having to > > ask questions for help. Until such time as you can understand what > > is happening when breakage occurs and describe the conditions exactly in > a > > bug report, those are the kind of bug reports that are helpful, many > > I'm probably at that stage, my questions aren't directly related to my > release or bugs, more things i would like to learn how to do. You can regard using debian testing as a shock therapy, let's say: the more you face with problems the more you learn about fixing :-) > I have ran testing in the past, but as you say, when I ran it about 6 > months before it was roled out into 5.0, it was most likeley more stable > than the testing available now. I'll wait a bit and then upgrade. Yes, actually testing could be really near unstable http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ > Daniel. regards raffaele
Re: [OT] Cursing Re: Dell Precision Workstation T7400 - 32bit
2009/4/8 Robert Holtzman > On Tue, 7 Apr 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > In <49db1705.8060...@gmail.com>, Avi Greenbury wrote: >> >>> Cassiel wrote: >>> >>>> It comes with the f***ing vista pre-installed and (obviously) I want to >>>> install debian. >>>> >>> Also, in general, if it's not appropriate to write a swear word with all >>> its letters, it is generally also not appropriate to just substitute >>> three of them with asterisks. >>> >> >> :) >> >> Agreed, if you are such a pussy that you can't even fucking swear >> correctly. >> Don't even try writing a damn swear word with those shitty asterisks. j/k >> ;) >> > > I do so love eloquence. Oh yeah, so do I rollback run again (with swear words patch applied) "once upon a time, there WAS a dell workstation with the FUCKING vista pre-installed... " ;-) r