apt-spy failure

2002-12-20 Thread Charles Baker
I've been trying to run apt-spy the last couple of
days and keep getting the following error:

usmghdebian:/etc/apt# apt-spy -d unstable -s \
/root/tops.20021220
::: Will save top sites to /root/tops.20021220.


::: Unrecoverable Error [1]: Could not retrieve list
from DEBIAN.ORG
::: [] Saving TOP FILE LIST.Segmentation fault

In my /etc/apt/apt.conf I have the following:

Acquire::http::Proxy \
"http://proxy.powersystems.rockwell.com:8080";;

So I'm fairly confident that I'm getting out, is the
list in fact there?

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Re: lilo hangs @ 'L'

2002-12-09 Thread Charles Baker

--- Lance Hoffmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A better solution of course would be to simply
> > reinstall Lilo
> 
> reinstall Lilo?  Do you mean simply type lilo at
> the prompt or apt-get reinstall install lilo?
> 
> 

/sbin/lilo at the bash shell command prompt as root.

{{SNIP}}

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Re: lilo hangs @ 'L'

2002-12-09 Thread Charles Baker

--- Lance Hoffmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When booting my system lilo hangs at 'L'.  I
> can boot from the floppy fine. This occurs when
> booting from the harddrive only.  No
> error code just 'L'
> 
> How do i fix?
> 
> Lance
> 

This is a quite common problem. Lots of discussions
and solutions from google, for example:

http://www.experts-exchange.com/Operating_Systems/Linux/Linux_Setup/Q_10047032.html

Yeilds this:

Try booting with linux append="hda=xx,xx,xx" (where
the xx's
denote C(ylinders),H(eads),S(ectors per track).  Once
you've
booted up and Lilo knows the geometry of your drive,
put a
permanent line in /etc/lilo.conf (the same append
statement
without the word linux) & re-rerun /sbin/lilo.  Next
time you
boot it should be able to boot off hda2.

A better solution of course would be to simply
reinstall Lilo
to the MBR - it will boot '95 just fine, but try the
above if
you don't want to go that route.

As well as this:

On my system: /usr/doc/lilo-0.19-1/README

I'll paste some relevant parts here:

When LILO loads itself, it displays the word "LILO".
Each letter is printed
before or after performing some specific action. If
LILO fails at some
point, the letters printed so far can be used to
identify the problem. This
is described in more detail in the technical overview.

[snip]

  L  ...   The first stage boot loader has been
loaded and started,
   but it can't load the second stage boot loader. The
two-digit error
   codes indicate the type of problem. (See also
section "Disk error
   codes".) This condition usually indicates a media
failure or a geometry
   mismatch (e.g. bad disk parameters, see section
"Disk geometry").

What exactly have you got in the MBR, btw? ;-)



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Re: How do I start a X session on another machine

2002-12-06 Thread Charles Baker
--- Andrew Lindley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have 2 machines running Woody and not enough desk
> space for both 
> screens and keyboards. I'd  like to be able to run X
> sessions on both 
> 

A quick google for ``Linux remote x sessions'' yeilded
all sorts of stuff:

http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/mini/Remote-X-Apps.html

http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/LinuxGuide/linux-X-remote.html

http://rtfm.dyndns.info/tips/2000/11/13/43.shtml

And here is some Debian specific info:

http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-x


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Cannot shutdown Tomcat with GLIBC in unstable

2002-12-04 Thread Charles Baker
I just tried to shutdown Tomcat 4.1.12-2 using Sun JDK
1.3.1_03 on my box running unstable. I got the
following undefined symbol message and Tomcat does not
shutdown. Does anyone have a suggestion for what I
should do other than kill the Tomcat pids? I wonder if
I do that will Tomcat be able to restart?

usmghdebian:~# /usr/share/tomcat4/bin/shutdown.sh
Using CATALINA_BASE:   /usr/share/tomcat4
Using CATALINA_HOME:   /usr/share/tomcat4
Using CATALINA_TMPDIR: /usr/share/tomcat4/temp
Using JAVA_HOME:   /usr/local/java1.3
Error occurred during initialization of VM
Unable to load native library:
/usr/local/stow/jdk1.3.1_03/jre/lib/i386/libjava.so:
symbol __libc_wait, version GLIBC_2.0 not
defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
usmghdebian:~#

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Re: Kernel panic booting woody 2.4.18 "root=301"

2002-11-25 Thread Charles Baker
--- Tom Schutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-11-24 at 07:44, Charles Baker wrote:
> > 
> > --- Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > Tom Schutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I am having trouble setting up Debian woody on
> a
> > > IOpener.  I am
> > > > setting up the IDE drive on another machine,
> and
> > > then hooking it up to
> > > > the IOpener and attempting to boot.  When I
> > > attempt to boot with the
> > > > drive in the IOpener, I get:
> > > >  VFS: Cannot open root device "301" or 03:01
> > > >  Please append a correct "root=" boot option
> > > >  Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on
> > > 03:01
> > > 
> > > The IOpener may not be seeing the disk as hda
> (aka
> > > 03:01).  Please post
> > > the messages before that as it may tell you what
> the
> > > kernel thinks the
> > > disk is called, or if it doesn't see it at all.
> > 
> > {{SNIP}}
> > 
> > I had the same problem when I first moved to a
> 2.4.x
> > kernel on a plain intel based machine. The problem
> wa
> > slack of initrd line in lilo.conf . For example,
> > 
> > image=/vmlinuz
> > initrd=/initrd.img
> > label=Linux
> > read-only
> > #   restricted
> > #   alias=1
> 
> AFAIK this is only required by 2.4.19, and I am
> running 2.4.18.
> But of course, I could be wrong...


I have needed this on 2.4.18-686 and 2.4.18-686-smp .
I also needed it on whatever the first 2.4.x (2.4.16?)
kernel, and any in between that one and 2.4.18, was to
be included with woody when it was still testing and
not stable.

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Re: Kernel panic booting woody 2.4.18 "root=301"

2002-11-24 Thread Charles Baker

--- Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tom Schutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am having trouble setting up Debian woody on a
> IOpener.  I am
> > setting up the IDE drive on another machine, and
> then hooking it up to
> > the IOpener and attempting to boot.  When I
> attempt to boot with the
> > drive in the IOpener, I get:
> >  VFS: Cannot open root device "301" or 03:01
> >  Please append a correct "root=" boot option
> >  Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on
> 03:01
> 
> The IOpener may not be seeing the disk as hda (aka
> 03:01).  Please post
> the messages before that as it may tell you what the
> kernel thinks the
> disk is called, or if it doesn't see it at all.

{{SNIP}}

I had the same problem when I first moved to a 2.4.x
kernel on a plain intel based machine. The problem wa
slack of initrd line in lilo.conf . For example,

image=/vmlinuz
initrd=/initrd.img
label=Linux
read-only
#   restricted
#   alias=1


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Re: [OT] Moving away from KDE to what?

2002-11-12 Thread Charles Baker

--- Alex Polite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I visited my mother last week to help her setup her
> DSL
> connection. While doing so I realized that her
> Windows 2000 350 MHz
> box is a lot more responsive then my Debian/GNU/KDE
> 500 MHz box.
> 
> So out goes KDE.
> 
> I tried out the minimalistic ratpoison an ion wms
> and kind of like
> them. At least they are fast. But they don't handle
> apps like gimp or xmms to
> well. Now I'm looking something in  the middle
> ground.
> 
> Here are the requirements:
> 
> 1) Must be able to "maximize window to available
> space" a la
>enlightenment.
> 
> 2) Must support multiple sequence key bindings a la
> emacs.
> 
> 3) Must be fast.
> 
> 4) Must be faster.
> 

{{SNIP}}

My favorites are WindowMaker and XFce. Both are quick
and highly configurable.

http://www.windowmaker.org/

http://www.xfce.org/

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Re: New on Debian

2002-10-31 Thread Charles Baker

--- Matthias Hentges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am Don, 2002-10-31 um 03.45 schrieb debianoverdunes:
> > Hello out there¡
> > 
> > Being new to debian makes me ask some boring
> questions but I fel
> > like walking over dunes in the sahara. How do I
> suppose to get into my
> > debian system as root if a can't remeber the root
> password? I have no
> > intention of reinstalling the system. Sure there's
> most be a way to
> > recover it or a workaround. Hope you can lead me
> to the oasis.
> 

I did something similar recently. Here is how I fixed
it:

http://www.charleshbaker.com/~chb/nb/view.cgi/weblog/2002/10/05/1


> - Boot from the debian install disk and choose the
> "rescue" system
> - mount your root partition in /mnt
> - type "chroot /mnt"
> - type "passwd root"
> - type in a new password
> 
> (untested)
>  
> 
> -- 
> 
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> [www.hentges.net] -> PGP + HTML are welcome
> ICQ: 97 26 97 4   -> No files, no URLs
> 
> My OS: Debian Woody: Geek by Nature, Linux by Choice
> 
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Re: Looking for a firewall

2002-10-24 Thread Charles Baker

--- "Robert L. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> 
> 
>   I've got my handy-dandy firewall up and running
> with iptables.  However
> I'm always looking for a better way to lock it down.
>  Can anyone send me
> a "here's mine" or close for something that does
> this:
> 
>   Allows all oubound new connections from inside on
> my 192.168.0.0/24 (or the
> IP of ETH0 on my firewall?)
> Allows all connections to my firewall from
> 192.168.0.0/24
> Drops all packets inbound from the internet except:
>   http
>   ssh
>   ftp
> 
>   Logs all dropped attempts/scans to a different
> syslog title so I can
> save it off to a different file?
> 

{{SNIP}}

Have a look at shorewall, it may or may not do all you
require, but it's got a lot of that I know:

http://www.shorewall.net/


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everybuddy 0.4.2 on testing

2002-10-06 Thread Charles Baker

Has anyone else noticed strange behaviour from
everybuddy? I'm using 0.4.2 on testing. Lately, the
main everybuddy window listing contacts will become
blank. Also, everybuddy will shut down for no apparent
reason. Any clues?

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Re: anything like NextStep? - Re: File Manager Suggestions?

2002-10-04 Thread Charles Baker


--- Jason Wojciechowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Charles,
> 
> On Oct  4, Charles Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> | Pardon my ignorance, but there doesn't seem to be
> much
> | documentation on the gworkspace site. What is the
> | purpose of gworkspace say in conjunction with
> | WindowMaker...what would I get that I don't have
> by
> | using fsviewer, the dock and the clip?
> 
> Somebody mentioned that they wanted a file manager
> that resembled
> NextStep (as I've been silently wondering about for
> a few weeks, as
> well), and gworkspace was what came up.  I don't
> know anything about
> fsviewer ... though from apt-cache show'ing it just
> now, I've decided to
> install it and look at it, because it appears that
> (as your point seems
> to be) it might be exactly what I'm looking for.
> 
> Now I've installed it and run it once, and it does
> appear to be what I
> want :)  Thanks for pointing this one out.

{{SNIP}}

Well, cool. Glad I could be of help. BTW, isn't Debian
just lovely? apt-cache show, apt-get install, such a
sweet tool and great system overall.

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Re: anything like NextStep? - Re: File Manager Suggestions?

2002-10-04 Thread Charles Baker


--- Jason Wojciechowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ben wrote:
> 
>  | thanks jason. apt crapped out on the first try. i
> needed to update. 
>  | gworkspace is a bit of a resource hog, though. it
> totally claimed
>  | my fluxbox workspace, obliterating everything
> else that was running
>  | there before. oh well, it's a new toy to play
> with, just in time
>  | for the weekend.
> 
> Yeah, I was kind of surprised when my background
> changed color and
> whatnot.  There is a setting inside it to say,
> "Don't take over my
> background," so you can avoid that.  I didn't really
> see any other
> hijacking, though.
> 
> -Jason
> 
{SNIP}}

Pardon my ignorance, but there doesn't seem to be much
documentation on the gworkspace site. What is the
purpose of gworkspace say in conjunction with
WindowMaker...what would I get that I don't have by
using fsviewer, the dock and the clip?

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RE: anything like NextStep? - Re: File Manager Suggestions?

2002-10-03 Thread Charles Baker


--- Michael Olds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you check out sourceforge under desktop file
> managers, I saw a few like
> this while I was checking out different
> possibilities.
> 
> Best Wishes!
> Mike Olds www.buddhadust.org

FSViewer:
http://freshmeat.net/projects/fsviewer/?topic_id=860

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Re: How "stable" is "testing"?

2002-09-30 Thread Charles Baker


--- Neal Lippman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am wondering how stable people are finding testing
> for use on their
> workstations. I am running woody, and very happy
> with it. However, I
> would like to be a bit more up to date with some of
> my software - for
> instance, I'd like to be using KDE 3 instead of 2.2,
> and the newest
> evolution, so I was thinking about doing a
> dist-upgrade to sarge. I
> don't, however, look forward to severe breakage now
> that I finally have
> my system configured and working.
> 
> Any advice appreciated.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> nl

{{SNIP}}

I switched from unstable to testing when 3.0 came out
and I have had no problems so far.

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Re: unstable, just how unstable is it

2002-09-18 Thread Charles Baker


--- Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2002 at 07:46:45PM -0700, Charles
> Baker wrote:
> > Okay I asked this question a few weeks ago and got
> the above warning
> > about Python, Perl and glibc. Can anyone tell me
> if these issues been
> > resoloved yet? I see few Python bugs, lots of Perl
> bugs and only a few
> > glibc bugs. What's the scoop?
> 
> glibc is pretty much fixed, although you'll have a
> temporary problem
> upgrading to the current libc6/locales combination
> because they're out
> of sync on i386. (Will be fixed this evening.)
> 
> perl is nearly done, see
>
http://lists.debian.org/debian-perl-0209/msg00012.html.
> 
> I can't speak for python.

{{SNIP}}

Thanks, I just didn't know where to look for the
answers. How do you keep up with all of it, or even a
decent sized portion of such a large distro? BTW, are
you the glibc maintainer?

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Re: PHP3 files on Apache 1.3.26 and PHP4

2002-09-17 Thread Charles Baker


--- Charles Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm running apache 1.3.26 and php4. I've never tried
> to do anything w/ php on my server. I installed an
> app
> that has php3 files. When I try to browse the app, I
> get a mime-type error. Galeon doesn't seem to know
> what to do...I think the following are all the
> relevant line from my httpd.conf:
> 
> LoadModule php4_module
> /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so
> 
> 
> DirectoryIndex index.html index.php index.htm
> index.shtml index.cgi index.ph
> p3
> 
> 
> # For example, the PHP 3.x module (not part of
> the
> Apache
> # distribution - see http://www.php.net) will
> typically use:
> #
> AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .php3
> #AddType application/x-httpd-php3-source .phps
> #
> # And for PHP 4.x, use:
> #
> AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
> #AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps
> 
> Clues anyone? A further test in my public_html/php
> directory of a simple index.php works. However
> mv'ing
> the same file to php3 does not work. What gives?

{{SNIP}}

I continued on my google search and found this page:

http://www.opendeveloper.org/PHP/HowTo/Upgrading_From_PHP3_to_PHP4/

Which indicated that the line:

AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .php3

should be commented out and instead use a line like
so:

AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .php4 .php3

This works. Once again, google and the web prove
themselves to be my friends.

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PHP3 files on Apache 1.3.26 and PHP4

2002-09-17 Thread Charles Baker

I'm running apache 1.3.26 and php4. I've never tried
to do anything w/ php on my server. I installed an app
that has php3 files. When I try to browse the app, I
get a mime-type error. Galeon doesn't seem to know
what to do...I think the following are all the
relevant line from my httpd.conf:

LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so


DirectoryIndex index.html index.php index.htm
index.shtml index.cgi index.ph
p3


# For example, the PHP 3.x module (not part of the
Apache
# distribution - see http://www.php.net) will
typically use:
#
AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .php3
#AddType application/x-httpd-php3-source .phps
#
# And for PHP 4.x, use:
#
AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
#AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps

Clues anyone? A further test in my public_html/php
directory of a simple index.php works. However mv'ing
the same file to php3 does not work. What gives?

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Re: unstable, just how unstable is it

2002-09-17 Thread Charles Baker


--- Corrin Lakeland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Aug 2002 14:56, Charles Baker wrote:
> > I'm seeing some packages in unstable that I would
> > really like, for instance tomcat 4.1.9. But I'm
> > wondering just how unstable is unstable, say on a
> > scale of 1 - 10 with 10 being you must be insane.
> 
> Generally very stable, say 2.
> 
> HOWEVER
> 
> There are some major changes happening in unstable
> at the moment (Python 
> 2.2/3, Perl 5.8, glibc, gcc 3.2).  These mean
> unstable is likely to break in 
> the near future, and when unstable breaks it
> _really_ breaks.
> 
> Have a look at pinning, and see just how much of
> unstable you'd pull down with
> apt-get install -t unstable tomcat
> 
{{SNIP}}

Okay I asked this question a few weeks ago and got the
above warning about Python, Perl and glibc. Can anyone
tell me if these issues been resoloved yet? I see few
Python bugs, lots of Perl bugs and only a few glibc
bugs. What's the scoop?


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Re: can't acces https with mozilla

2002-06-24 Thread Charles Baker

--- Ben Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am unable to connect to secure websites using
> mozilla on my debian system. 
> All other browsing seems to work fine, but when I
> try a secure site, it just 
> freezes and times out. I have got mozilla-psm
> installed and I regularly 
> dist-upgrade my system.
> 
> I am running sid with kernel 2.4.17, and mozilla is
> currently on 1.0.0-3 on 
> my system.
> 
> I really hope that someone can help me with this
> because I have run out of 
> ideas myself.
> 
> Thanks,

<>

Short answer, install the mozilla-psm package.

A quick search at 

http://lists.debian.org/search.html

revealed the following among man other messages

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/debian-user-200110/msg02355.html

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Re: linux and laptops

2002-06-20 Thread Charles Baker

--- Deedra Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm supposed to start school in august, and I'm
> getting a gateway solo
> 1450 for a laptop for classes. I'm curious as to
> wether any of you know
> how well this type of laptop will work with linux.
> I've heard both that
> the gateway laptops work with linux and that they
> don't.
> 
> I'm curious as to wether any of you can give me a
> better idea.
> 
<>

Look here for linux on laptops info:

http://www.linux-laptop.net/

For your particular model I don't see an entry yet,
but there are entries for other Solos. Also, there is
a debian-laptops mailing list, you might want to
search those archives.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/




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Re: WM Suggestions

2002-06-07 Thread Charles Baker

--- "Robert L. Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> 
> 
> Ok,  running gnome at work.  Been useing
> Sawfish-gnome as my window
> manager.  I'm having problems with the system
> hanging randomly with no
> error messages, etc.  The only thing I haven't
> eliminated yet is sawfish
> and gnome.  Anyone have any suggestions on a good
> gnome-compliant window
> manager, preferably one that's semi-light weight as
> I'm running on a
> dual p2-450 with 512 megs of ram.
> 
> 
> :wq!

How about WindowMaker or XFce?

http://www.windowmaker.org/features.html

http://www.xfce.org/

>
---
> Robert L. Harris|  Micros~1 :
> Senior System Engineer  |For when
> quality, reliability
>   at RnD Consulting |  and security
> just aren't
> \_   that
> important!
> DISCLAIMER:
>   These are MY OPINIONS ALONE.  I speak for
> no-one else.
> FYI:
>  perl -e 'print
>
$i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);'
> 
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Re: Beginning to try to secure my box.

2002-06-05 Thread Charles Baker

--- arthur_dent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am trying to begin to secure my P.C.. It's only a
> home computer but may 
> hopefully later be linked to a second pc via 10/100
> nics.
> 
> I was reading a faq on  the net about securing a
> linux box and they recomend 
> to not have certain services enabled unless
> absolutly necessary. One of these 
> is "portmap". I notice this is enabled by default (I
> think) on Woody. Can I 
> safely uninstall this service/program without
> affecting my p.c.?
> All I'm using it for is surfing the net, reading
> email and other "home" type 
> things.
> 
> Also they recomend disabling nfs...I have
> "nfs-common" and nfs-kernel-server" 
> installed. Can I safely disable these too? I dont
> require them for apt-get 
> updates etc?
> Thanks for any advise.
> 
> 
Yes and yes. You might want to install the harden
meta-packages ( is that the correct terminology? ).

See:

http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=harden&searchon=names&subword=1&version=testing&release=all

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Re: How do I discover the X version I'm running?

2002-05-30 Thread Charles Baker

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi-
> 
>   How do I know what X version I'm running?
>   TIA
>   Regs
>   Henry
> 

<>

Try:  dpkg -l xfree* | grep "^ii"

The output should be something like:

ii  xfree86-common 4.1.0-17   X Window System
(XFree86) infrastructure

dpkg is the debian package manager. The -l causes dpkg
to list all packages that match the pattern "xfree*".
The output of that command is piped "|" into the stdin
of grep which looks for lines that begin "^" with
"ii", lines for which the package is actually installed.

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Re: Having a similar problem

2002-05-30 Thread Charles Baker

--- Jason Jorgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It appears I am having a very similar issue as you
> with
> 
> 
> request_module[block-major-3]: Root fs not moounted
> VFS: Cannot open root device "303" or 03:03
> Please append a correct "root=" boot option
> Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:03
> 
> 
> Did you ever find a solution to this. The initrd is
> suppose to contain all the modules needed to boot
> off the hardware, but for some reason it cant load
> the module for the ide hard drive.
> 
> 


I had to set up the block in lilo for the 2.4.x kernel
like so:

image=/vmlinuz
initrd=/initrd.img
label=Linux
read-only
#   restricted
#   alias=1

And rerun lilo, ``/sbin/lilo -v'' . Then all was good.


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Re: Webmin on Debian

2002-05-23 Thread Charles Baker

--- Kevin Ruml <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have the same problem.  I'm running Webmin 0.92-6
> on a Woody box.  The File 
> Manager module doesn't show up in the "Other" index
> where it should be 
> (according to Webmin).  I can reassign it to another
> category, but it doesn't 
> show up there either.  This is the only module not
> showing up.  It worked on 
> the same box before I upgraded to Woody, although
> this was from the tarball, 
> of course, since Webmin isn't in Potato.
> 
> Kevin Ruml
> 
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I thought the file manager depended on Java?

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Re: serving the web without a web server

2002-05-21 Thread Charles Baker

--- Keith Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 05:12:04PM -0500, Jamin W.
> Collins wrote:
>  > On Tue, 21 May 2002 23:05:18 +0100
>  > "Keith Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > 
>  > > I have something bizarre happening: I serve
> some web sites, including
>  > > http://www.dynamiccompany.co.uk and even though
> I've stopped apache
>  > > (apachectl stop), I can still ping the web
> site:
>  > 
>  > Apache has nothing to do with whether a system
> responds to a ping.  If the
>  > network interface is up, properly configured, has
> a valid IP and no
>  > filters it will respond to ping requests.
>  > 
>  > (snip)
>  > 
>  > > So, I do a traceroute (from a remote box):
>  > 
>  > Same holds true for traceroute.
>  > 
>  > (snip)
>  > 
>  > > So, are ntl or newnet (where the box is
> located) caching (aggressively)
>  > 
>  > Most likely not the case.
>  > 
>  > (snip)
>  > 
>  > > Any thoughts?  I'm a bit stumped.
>  > 
>  > Might want to take a look at the Networking
> HOWTO.
>  > 
>  > 
> 
>  Ofcourse - doh!  Thanks.  However, the site is
> still accessible through a browser, despite hard
> refreshes.  So, since I am not serving it, then I
> was thinking that it might be cached (or perhaps
> something else) - and therefore not avaialbe to
> everybody?
> 
> Any further thoughts?
> 
> Thanks for your help so far,
> 
> Keith
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I get connection refused. Are you sure _your_ browser
hasn't cached the site?

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Re: serving the web without a web server

2002-05-21 Thread Charles Baker

--- Keith Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have something bizarre happening: I serve some web
> sites, including http://www.dynamiccompany.co.uk and
> even though I've stopped apache (apachectl stop), I
> can still ping the web site:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ping www.dynamiccompany.co.uk
> PING dynamiccompany.co.uk (213.131.168.136): 56 data
> bytes
> 64 bytes from 213.131.168.136: icmp_seq=0 ttl=245
> time=27.8 ms
> 64 bytes from 213.131.168.136: icmp_seq=1 ttl=245
> time=23.0 ms
> 
> --- dynamiccompany.co.uk ping statistics ---
> 2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet
> loss
> round-trip min/avg/max = 23.0/25.4/27.8 ms
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
> 
> So, I do a traceroute (from a remote box):
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ traceroute www.dynamiccompany.co.uk
> traceroute to dynamiccompany.co.uk
> (213.131.168.136), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
>  1  172.20.103.254 (172.20.103.254)  9.735 ms 
> 25.230 ms  10.375 ms
>  2  rdg-cam1-a-fa00.inet.ntl.com (213.105.91.49) 
> 10.078 ms  14.060 ms  12.956 ms
>  3  bre-t2core-a-pos49.inet.ntl.com (62.253.64.165) 
> 10.900 ms  18.956 ms  50.684 ms
>  4  bre-bb-a-so-330-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.57) 
> 12.658 ms  13.755 ms  14.886 ms
>  5  gfd-bb-b-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com (213.105.172.150)
>  15.009 ms  15.474 ms  25.388 ms
>  6  linx-ic-2-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.185.74) 
> 18.645 ms  55.592 ms  15.737 ms
>  7  linx4.newnet.co.uk (195.66.225.131)  20.428 ms 
> 16.976 ms  27.521 ms
>  8  atm1.th.newnet.co.uk (212.87.77.21)  18.044 ms 
> 17.804 ms  20.383 ms
>  9  atm1.cams.newnet.co.uk (212.87.77.154)  19.826
> ms  27.832 ms  19.748 ms
> 10  my web server
> 
> 
> Of these, only 172.20.103.254 is unknown
> 
> whois 172.20.103.254:
> 
> IANA (IANA-BBLK-RESERVED)
>Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
>4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
>Marina del Rey, CA 90292-6695
>US
> 
>Netname: IANA-BBLK-RESERVED
>Netblock: 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255
> 
>Coordinator:
>   Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and
> Numbers  (IANA-ARIN)  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   (310) 823-9358
> 
>Domain System inverse mapping provided by:
> 
>BLACKHOLE-1.IANA.ORG 192.0.32.18
>BLACKHOLE-2.IANA.ORG 192.0.32.19
> 
>These blocks are reserved for special purposes.
>Please see RFC 1918 for additional information.
> 
> So, are ntl or newnet (where the box is located)
> caching (aggressively) or is there a different
> issue?  Can anybody else ping
> www.dynamiccompany.co.uk (who aren't with ntl) -
> this could at least remove ntl from the equation.
> 
> Any thoughts?  I'm a bit stumped.
> 
> All help greatly appreciated.
> 
> Keith
> 
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Ping is ICMP protocol. Web servers use http protocol.
Pinging that name first uses DNS ( either UDP or TCP )
to resolve that name to a number. So unless you took
down the box, or disconnected it from the 'net, of
course ping will work. Ping doesn't care about the
fact that you no longer have a web server listening on
port 80. Some implementations of traceroute use icmp,
so that's why it works too. Even if you "killed" the
domain name to IP address mapping, it could take a
couple of days for it to be flushed from various DNS
servers around the 'net.

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Re: Thanks!

2002-05-03 Thread Charles Baker

--- Jianbo Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> I am afraid that there is message on the screen that
> said "please insert
> CD 2" like Redhat.
> 
> Regards!
> 
> Jianbo
> 

That's most likely because you selected some stuff for
installation that was not on the first CD. Also, once
you've got the base system installed you have to
change the sources.list file to point to a debian
mirror instead of the CDs in order to do the type of
install I was talking about. This does take some
familiarity w/ the debian install process...

You might want to try out the iso images here:

http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/debian-netinst-cd/

I've never used these myself, but they seem to be set
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Re: woody

2002-05-02 Thread Charles Baker

--- Jianbo Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Right now there 8 CDs for woody, could anybody tell
> me how many I need to
> install OS? I don't need source CD. Since I am not
> on the mailing list,
> please reply to me. Thanks! 
> 
> Regards!
> 
> Jianbo
> 

You only need one for the basic stuff. In fact, if
you've got a fast internet connection, you only need
the floppy images to install the base system, then you
can install the rest directly from one of the mirrors.
This is what I used to do all the time before I had a
cd-burner.
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Re: Apt from behind a firewall

2002-05-02 Thread Charles Baker

--- Johan van der Walt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I am trying to use apt-get from behind a firewall
> but am not sure exactly
> how to set up the apt.conf file. When I normally ftp
> to a site outside the
> firewall the procedure is as follows:
> 
> ftp uuu.vvv.www.xx
> userid: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@uuu.vvv.www.xx
> passwd: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@firewallpasswd
> 
> (1) Should I copy the ftp part of the example in
> /usr/doc/apt/examples to
> my /etc/apt.conf file?
> 
> (2) What is the meaning of the two proxy entries in
> the ftp part?
> 
> (3) Which user and passwd entries should I use?
> There are two sets. And
> should I use it in the same way as when I normally
> ftp to a server outside
> the firewall? 
> 
> (4) What else should I do?
> 
> (5) Using 2.2r6
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Johan van der Walt
> 
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>From ``man apt.conf'':

http   HTTP URIs; http::Proxy is the default http
proxy to
  use.   It   is   in   thestandard   
formof
  http://[[user][:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:port]/. Per
host prox­
  ies  can  also  be  specified  by  using
 the  form
  http::Proxy:: with the special
keyword DIRECT
  meaning to use no proxies. The
http_proxy  environ­
  ment variable will override all
settings.

  Three  settings are provided for cache
control with
  HTTP/1.1 complient proxy caches.
No-Cache tells the
  proxy  to  not  used  its cached
response under any
  circumstances, Max-Age is sent only for
index files
  and  tells the cache to refresh its
object if it is
  older than the  given  number  of 
seconds.  Debian
  updates  its  index files daily so the
default is 1
  day. No-Store specifies that the cache
should never
  store  this  request,  it  is  only set
for archive
  files. This may be useful to  prevent 
polluting  a
  proxy cache with very large .deb files.
Note: Squid
  2.0.2 does not support any of these
options.

  The option timeout sets the timeout
timer  used  by
  the  method,  this  applies to all
things including
  connection timeout and data timeout.

  One setting is provided  to  control 
the  pipeline
  depth  in  cases where the remote server
is not RFC
  conforming  or  buggy   (such   as  
Squid   2.0.2)
  Acquire::http::Pipeline-Depth can be a
value from 0
  to 5 indicating how many outstanding 
requests  APT
  should  send.  A value of zero MUST be
specified if
  the remote host does not  properly 
linger  on  TCP
  connections - otherwise data corruption
will occur.
  Hosts which require this are in 
violation  of  RFC
  2068.

ftpFTP URIs; ftp::Proxy is the default proxy
server to
  use.   It   is   in   thestandard   
formof
  ftp://[[user][:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:port]/ and
is overriden
  by the ftp_proxy environment variable.
To use a ftp
  proxy  you  will  have  to  set the
ftp::ProxyLogin
  script in the configuration file. This
entry speci­
  fies  the commands to send to tell the
proxy server
  what to connect to.
Please  see
 
/usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configure-index.gz  for
  an example of how to do this. The
subsitution vari­
  ables  available  are $(PROXY_USER),
$(PROXY_PASS),
  $(SITE_USER),$(SITE_PASS),
$(SITE), and
  $(SITE_PORT).   Each  is taken from it's
respective
  URI component.

  The option timeout sets the timeout
timer  used  by
  the  method,  this  applies to all
things including
  connection timeout and data timeout.

  Several settings are provided  to 
control  passive
  mode.  Generally  it  is safe to leave
passive mode
  on, it works in nearly every
environment.   However
  some  situations  require that passive
mode be dis­
  abled and port mode ftp used instead.
This  can  be
  done  globally,  for  connections that
go through a
  proxy or for a specific host (See the
sample config
  file for examples)

  It  is  possible  to proxy FTP over HTTP
by setting
  the ftp_proxy environment variable to a
http url  -
  see  the  discussion  of  the http
method above for
  syntax. You cannot set this  in  the 
configuration
  file and it is not recommended to use
FTP over HTTP
  due to its low efficiency.

  The  setting  ForceExtended  controls 
the  use  of

Re: kernel 2.4.17 and above for debian LINUX

2002-04-30 Thread Charles Baker

--- Deepak Kotian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for the information!!
> 
> Thanks and Regards
> Deepak
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Deepak Kotian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "STOJICEVIC Edi EXPSIA"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 11:15 PM
> Subject: Re: kernel 2.4.17 and above for debian
> LINUX
> 
> 
> > On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 12:17, Deepak Kotian wrote:
> > Debian 2.2r anything will not have a 2.4.x kernel.
>  This is the older
> > potato release and it is old and out of date.  But
> luckily Debian
> > GNU/Linux 3.0 (woody) is supposedly coming out
> tomorrow on May 1.  This
> > release will come with both 2.2.x and 2.4.x
> kernels.  It should not be
> > hard to get the CD images off the website today
> before the big rush hits
> > it in the next few days.  So basically, just wait
> a day and you will
> > have a nice shinny new stable release of Debian
> GNU/Linux to satisfy
> > your vendor and customer.
> >
<>

Uhhh..., not quite. It was announced that the woody is
not quite ready for release. Therefore it can't go
tomorrow as planned. See:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2002/debian-devel-announce-200204/msg00020.html

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Re: Reading to turn computer into internet router for modem

2002-04-29 Thread Charles Baker

--- "Michael W. Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am trying to figure out how to create an internet
> router for two
> computers.  One is a linux and the other is a
> windows 98.  I just want
> to be able to have access to the internet on either
> at any time.
> Could someone please direct me to what I should be
> reading to learn how
> to do this?
> Thank you,
>   Michael
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http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Firewall-HOWTO.html

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html


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Re: apm

2002-04-27 Thread Charles Baker

--- Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 27, 2002 at 07:50:31AM -0700, Charles
> Baker wrote:
> > Something seems to have broken my apm. My bios and
> > wmbattery show that my Dell Latitude battery is
> 100%
> > charged. However, everytime I remove the power
> cable,
> > the laptop just loses power. Does anyone have a
> clue?
> > I'm running sid w/ kernel 2.4.18-686 as packaged.
> Lilo
> > has append="apm=on". ``cat /proc/apm`` yeilds
> "1.16
> > 1.2 0x03 0x01 0xff 0x10 100% 382" as root but
> "1.16
> > 1.2 0x03 0x01 0xff 0x10 -1% -1 ?" as a normal
> user.
> > apmd version 3.0.2-1.19 is installed w/ no extra
> > configuration. Anyone have a clue for me?
> 
> Did you activated "apm" modules?
> # insmod apm
> 
> Pre-package kernel is highly modular.  "Debian
> reference" (below URL)
> also talk about other 2.4 stambling points :)
> -- 
> ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~
> ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ +
>  Osamu Aoki @ Cupertino CA USA
>  See "User's Guide":
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/users-guide/
>  See "Debian reference":
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/
>  "Debian reference" Project at: http://qref.sf.net
<>
Yes, it's loaded. I have used the reference manual, it
has been quite helpful, for example in converting my
filesystems to ext3. Thanks.

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apm

2002-04-27 Thread Charles Baker
Something seems to have broken my apm. My bios and
wmbattery show that my Dell Latitude battery is 100%
charged. However, everytime I remove the power cable,
the laptop just loses power. Does anyone have a clue?
I'm running sid w/ kernel 2.4.18-686 as packaged. Lilo
has append="apm=on". ``cat /proc/apm`` yeilds "1.16
1.2 0x03 0x01 0xff 0x10 100% 382" as root but "1.16
1.2 0x03 0x01 0xff 0x10 -1% -1 ?" as a normal user.
apmd version 3.0.2-1.19 is installed w/ no extra
configuration. Anyone have a clue for me?

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Wireless VPN and Debian

2002-04-20 Thread Charles Baker
Back in the Feb. issue of LinuxJournal this year, Don
Marti wrote an article on Wireless networking and vpn.
He used Debian and vpnd for his article. The article
was not exactly a step by step thing, just enough to
get one started. For example:

"At this point you should be able to ping the base
station's virtual address (10.3.0.1 in this case) from
the client, and vice versa. If not, check the logs for
vpnd errors, and use ifconfig and route at both ends
to make sure the IP address and routing information
are correct."

But what is correct? I've got vpnd working on my base
and client and the wifi cards. I can ping both the vpn
and wifi from the client to the base. I know I don't
have IPMasquerade set up correctly as the laptop
cannot access the internet. My base station and laptop
are running debian sid, with kernel 2.4.18 and
iptables and the default debian ipmasq set up. Now
here's the wrinkle.

My base is behind a lrp firewall box that runs
dnscache and dhcpd etc. So let's try a little ascii
art:

internet<->cableModem
   ^
   |
   V
  lrp(192.168.1.254)
   ^
   |
  hub
   |
  V
debianWAPBase/VPNDBase
  ^
  |
  V
debianLaptop


wlan is 10.2.0.0/16 network
vpn is 10.3.0.0/16 network

My main questions is what kind of rules need to be on
the debianWAPBase and debianLaptop to make all traffic
flow through vpn? Has anyone else tried this? Got
suggestions or insight? I've been reading the
VPN-Masquerade-HOWTO but haven't got it all figured
out obviously. Will I need dns on the WAPBase to
server the wireless network? Or will the wireless
network be able to get dns from the dnscache on the
lrp box?

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Re: check for root kit

2002-04-19 Thread Charles Baker

--- Paul 'Baloo' Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, Carlos Sousa wrote:
> 
> > That's a scary tool, if I ever saw one. I have it
> running once a day,
> > and it almost always reports a possible LKM
> "infection". Sometimes it
> > detects 1 process hidden from ps, sometimes 3
> processes, sometimes none.
> > I'm reasonably sure the machine is not
> compromised, I think the tool is
> > just a bit too zealous.
> 
> This is possible, but I would seriously look into if
> you're compromised.
> When I run chkrootkit, I never turn up anything.
> 
<>

Same here. I never turn up anything when running chkrootkit.

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Re: booting problems - new machine, kernel 2.4

2002-04-19 Thread Charles Baker

--- dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to set up a new machine for someone, but
> I am having lots
> of difficulty booting it.  I installed potato using
> the idepci disks
> (kernel 2.2.19-idepci).  That kernel can boot from
> the hard disk with
> no difficulty.
> 
> The difficulty comes in booting a 2.4 kernel.  I
> installed
> kernel-image-2.4.18-k7 and kernel-image-2.4.18-386,
> I also installed
> the 2.4.18-bf2.4 image from the woody installer, and
> I also installed
> a kernel I compiled on another machine.
> 
> The system has a VIA 8233 ide controller, and the
> hard drive is
> partitioned as :
> hda1/boot
> hda5/
> hda6swap
> hda7/var
> 
> With both the kernel-image packages I get the error
> Kernel Panic : Couldn't mount root fs on device
> 
> 
> I tried reconfiguring them many times to ensure I
> that the ide-mod and
> ext3 and ext2 modules will be loaded at boot, but
> always got the same
> result.
> 
> The 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel can boot from the rescue
> floppy, but when
> booting from the hard disk I get
> Kernel panic : I have no root and I want to
> scream
> This kernel does see the ide bus, though.
> 
> With the custom kernel I included the ide and fs
> drivers directly in
> the kernel.  That one sees the IDE bus, but yields :
> Kernel Panic : Couldn't find init.  Try passing
> an init= parameter.
> 
> I tried init=/sbin/init and init=/bin/sh, but still
> received the same
> panic.
> 
> 
> I've built kernels before, and I've experienced a
> number of similar
> errors, so I have some familiarity with what is
> going on, but this
> time I'm stumped.  What might be the problem here? 
> My only guess now
> is that 2.4 kernels don't like booting from extended
> partitions, but
> the 2.2 kernel has no problems with it.
> 
> TIA!
> -D
<>

As I recall, there were lots of things that needed to
be upgraded to get 2.4.x to run on potato. Adrian Bunk
had created a lot of special packages for this:

http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html

Did you do this stuff?

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xdm/wdm/gdm/kdm/login.app etc.

2002-04-18 Thread Charles Baker
I'm setting up a general use box for my family. It
would be easier on all if there was a graphical login.
I'm wondering which of these display managers to
choose? Does anyone know of a comparison? We'll be
using WindowMaker and Xfce as our primary
windowmanagers. I'm not trying to start a religious
war, just need info.

Also, since Debian's default run level is 2, is there
any compelling reason to make the graphical login be
part of a different run level?

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Re: make-kpkg

2002-04-15 Thread Charles Baker

--- Charles Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Using sid,I was trying to compile new kernel w/
> make-kpkg when I got this series of errors, can
> someone shed a little light on my benighted brain?
> 
> 
<>
Sorry, screwed up my paste:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/linux$ fakeroot make-kpkg
--append_to_version -686 --initrd 
 --revision=rev.01 kernel_image
test ! -f stamp-debian && test ! -f debian/official &&
\
  rm -rf debian && install -p -d -o root -g root
-m 755 debian
rm: cannot remove directory `debian': Permission
denied
make: [stamp-debian] Error 1 (ignored)
test ! -f stamp-debian -a \
   ! \( -f debian/official -a -f
debian/control \) && \
   sed -e 's/=V/2.4.18-686/g'-e
's/=D/rev.01/g' \
   -e 's/=A/i386/g'   -e 's/=SA//g' \
   -e 's/=L/lilo (>= 19.1), /g' -e
's/=I/initrd-tools (>= 0.1.1), /g 
' \
   -e 's/=CV/2.4/g' \
   -e 's/=M/Charles H. Baker
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/g'  \
 /usr/share/kernel-package/Control>
debian/control
test ! -f stamp-debian && test ! -f debian/official &&
\
   sed -e 's/=V/2.4.18-686/g' -e 's/=D/rev.01/g' \
-e 's/=A/i386/g' -e 's/=M/Charles H. Baker
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/g' \
/usr/share/kernel-package/changelog >
debian/changelog
test ! -f debian/rules && \
   install -p -m 755 /usr/share/kernel-package/rules
debian/rules
touch stamp-debian
touch: creating `stamp-debian': Permission denied
make: *** [stamp-debian] Error 1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/linux$

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make-kpkg

2002-04-15 Thread Charles Baker
Using sid,I was trying to compile new kernel w/
make-kpkg when I got this series of errors, can
someone shed a little light on my benighted brain?


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/linux$ fakeroot make-kpkg
--append_to_version -686 --initrd 
 --revision=rev.01 kernel_image
test ! -f stamp-debian && test ! -f debian/official &&
\
  rm -rf debian && install -p -d -o root -g root
-m 755 debian
rm: cannot remove directory `debian': Permission
denied
make: [stamp-debian] Error 1 (ignored)
test ! -f stamp-debian -a \
   ! \( -f debian/official -a -f
debian/control \) && \
   sed -e 's/=V/2.4.18-686/g'-e
's/=D/rev.01/g' \
   -e 's/=A/i386/g'   -e 's/=SA//g' \
   -e 's/=L/lilo (>= 19.1), /g' -e
's/=I/initrd-tools (>= 0.1.1), /g 
' \
   -e 's/=CV/2.4/g' \
   -e 's/=M/Charles H. Baker <>/g'  \

/usr/email_address_removedshare/kernel-package/Control>
debian/control
test ! -f stamp-debian && test ! -f debian/official &&
\
   sed -e 's/=V/2.4.18-686/g' -e 's/=D/rev.01/g' \
-e 's/=A/i386/g' -e 's/=M/Charles H. Baker
/g' \
/usr/share/kernel-package/changelog >
debian/changelog
test ! -f debian/rules && \
   install -p -m 755 /usr/share/kernel-package/rules
debian/rules
touch stamp-debian
touch: creating `stamp-debian': Permission denied
make: *** [stamp-debian] Error 1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/linux$

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Re: Dummy Packages

2002-04-15 Thread Charles Baker

--- Bill Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quoting martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > also sprach Charles Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [2002.04.15.2247
> > +0200]:
> > > Can someone point me to a dock that will help me
> > > create a dummy package? I want to install
> velocity as
> > > a deb, but it requires libxalan2-java which is
> > > available. However, libxalan2-java depends on
> > > java2-runtime which is not, but I do have a
> Java2
> > > environment installed. BTW, this is on a machine
> > > running sid. So what I'm after is a dummy
> > > java2-runtime package which points to my local
> java2 install.
> > 
> > apt-get install equivs
> > cd /usr/share/doc/equivs/
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > martin;  (greetings from the heart of
> the sun.)
> >   \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<*> mailto:";
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   
> > the micro$oft hoover: finally, a product that's
> supposed to suck!
> > 
> 
> I just installed java-virtual-machine-dummy from
> Woody today.  With one quick 
> edit to /etc/java-vm.conf (I think) I was up and
> running JDK2-1.3.
> 
<>
I'll look into that. I have already followed martin's
advice and created a dummy package of my own and got
all the stuff that depended on Java2 installed.


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Dummy Packages

2002-04-15 Thread Charles Baker
Can someone point me to a dock that will help me
create a dummy package? I want to install velocity as
a deb, but it requires libxalan2-java which is
available. However, libxalan2-java depends on
java2-runtime which is not, but I do have a Java2
environment installed. BTW, this is on a machine
running sid. So what I'm after is a dummy
java2-runtime package which points to my local java2 install.

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Re: sources.list

2002-03-18 Thread Charles Baker
> --- Matthew Daubenspeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What should a standard testing machine's
> > /etc/apt/sources.list file look 
> > like? I just upgraded from potato and am getting
> > some errors on all of the 
> > "security" sources that are listed.
> > 
> <>
> 
> IIRC, the security sources only apply to
> stable/potato
> not testing/woody or unstable/sid .

<>

In fact here's mine which was generated by apt-spy
this morning at 2AM, all except the non-us line which
was later added:

# This sources.list was generated by apt-sources v2.20
# Copyright(c) 2001 by Danny Rodriguez
#
# The following site was benchmarked at 74.10 kB/s
deb ftp://debian.uchicago.edu/debian/ sid main

# The following site was benchmarked at 71.63 kB/s
deb ftp://ftp.egr.msu.edu/debian/ sid contrib

# The following site was benchmarked at 70.19 kB/s
deb ftp://ftp.stealth.net/debian/ sid non-free

###
# Below are sites you may want to consider adding but
are commented out
#
# -[ Uncomment below for HELIX CODE site (GNOME)
]-
# deb
http://spidermonkey.ximian.com/distributions/debian
unstable main
# -[ Uncomment below for KDE site (& Kdevelop)  
]-
# deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main crypto optional
qt1apps
# -[ Uncomment below for debian security
]-
# deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main
contrib non-free
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-us sid/non-US
main contrib non-free


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Re: sources.list

2002-03-18 Thread Charles Baker

--- Matthew Daubenspeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What should a standard testing machine's
> /etc/apt/sources.list file look 
> like? I just upgraded from potato and am getting
> some errors on all of the 
> "security" sources that are listed.
> 
<>

IIRC, the security sources only apply to stable/potato
not testing/woody or unstable/sid .

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Re: xfce

2002-03-13 Thread Charles Baker

--- "Kevin C. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 09:23:24PM -0800, Craig
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 09:25:52PM -0600, Kevin C.
> Smith wrote:
> > > Anyone running XFce and Unstable.
> > > Recent upgrade of XFce has removed the Debian
> menu (xfmenu).
> > > Anyone know how to get this back?
> > > 
> > > 
> > maybe "update-menus"
> > try man update-menus
> > 
> > I have a file /etc/menu-methods/xfce and here are
> a couple of
> > its lines:
> > 
> > genmenu=   "debian.menu"
> > rootprefix="/etc/X11/xfce/"
> > userprefix="/.xfce/"
> > treewalk="c(m)"
> > mainmenutitle="Debian Menu"   
> > 
> > you might want to check if that's intact.
> > 
> 
> This is not the issue. The "debian.menu" gets
> generated, however there is
> no longer a way to pull it into the xfce menu; Setup
> no longer has the
> debian menu option. And, I do not know how the
> xfmenu module in xfce
> works in order to hack something myself. 
> 
> Just cutting and pasting the resulting
> ~/.xfce/debian.menu into
> ~/.xfce/xfwmrc does not work. 
> 
>

<>

Anyone found the solution to this?


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Re: Massive issues with WMaker and X

2002-03-10 Thread Charles Baker

--- Manoj Mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Do you have the package 'menu' installed?
> 
> mvm.
> 
> On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 01:42:56PM -0800, Jonathan
> Ard wrote:
> > 
> > Ok, so I am having some major issues with Window
> Maker.  When I start it
> > up, it tells me it can't load the Applications
> Menu, and that I should
> > check the output in the terminal to see what the
> problem is. 
> > Unfortunately, I am running wdm, so I don't have a
> terminal to look at. 
> > So, I stopped wdm, and tried to start X manually. 
> For some reason, it
> > doesn't work.  The screen blinks a few times then
> it just comes back to
> > the terminal.  Looked in the log file for X and it
> doesn't seem to have
> > encountered any errors.  
<>

I had this problem after doing an apt-get dist-upgrade
on Friday. I do use startx rather than gdm, xdm, wdm,
etc. I saw an error stating that /usr/bin/cpp couldn't
be found on the terminal I had started X from in X 's
output. I went and looked and sure enough, no cpp, but
cpp-2.95 and cpp-3.0. I created a symlink to cpp-2.95,
restarted Windowmaker, and got my application menu back.

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Re: postgresql upgrade problem

2002-03-07 Thread Charles Baker

--- Oliver Elphick  wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 01:41, Charles Baker wrote:
> ...
> > Well, I just did an ``apt-get install
> > postgresql-client'' and it caused many supporting
> > packages to be installed including postgresql. Is
> this
> > indicative of a dependancy problem for these
> packages?
> 
> Did it cause the removal of any packages?  Quite a
> number of packages
> had to be rebuilt against the new libpgsql2 and this
> may have
> contributed to the hold-up.

<>

I think a couple of packages were removed. Is there an
apt history?




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Re: apm strangeness

2002-03-06 Thread Charles Baker

<>
> 
> Okay, I ran modconf and installed apm module in the
> kernel. Before wasn't apm built into most debian
> kernel images? I also did a ``cp -R
> /lib/modules/kernel-pcmcia-2.4.18-686
> /lib/modules/2.4.18-686/pcmcia'' and the pcmcia
> modules showed up in modconf. I installed
> yenta_socket, xirc2ps_cs and a couple of other
> things.
> Rebooted into 2.4.17 and presto, apmd started at
> boot
> time as well as my pcmcia nic. Started up
> WindowMaker,
> and wmbattery started as well. Next I'll see if I
> can't get 2.4.18 to behave.One last strange thing,
> uname -a reports 2.4.18-686, but linuxlogo is
> reporting 2.4.17-686. /proc/version shows 2.4.18-686
> as well.
> 
> 
<>

Following the same procedure for 2.4.18 as outlined
above for 2.4.17 seemed to fix things. I still don't
understand why 2.4.17 got a little messed up.

Linuxlogo didn't install properly due to bug #137007 ,

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=137007&repeatmerged=yes

After following advice filed w/ bug, linuxlogo and
several other packages all installed just fine. Apm
and pcmcia nic are working as expected in 2.4.18 . I
know things are occasionally broken in sid, but the
kernel package? But I don't even know at this point,
that I shold point fingers at the kernel package. If
anyone has any clues, please share them. BTW, is the
af_packet module really needed for a xircom pcmcia
nic? I think I may have installed it at some time
before when I really wanted the yenta module. I had a
glance at the source of both, and have only a very
vague notion of what they do.


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Re: apm strangeness

2002-03-06 Thread Charles Baker

--- Charles Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- Nick Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Hi Charles,
> 
> <>
> 
> > > --- Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > Look in /proc.  There should be an apm file
> > there. 
> > > > If not, linux is NOT using
> > > > apm.
> > > 
> > > Okay, no /proc/apm but what could've killed it
> for
> > > 2.4.17 ? It was working just fine before I
> > installed 2.4.18 .
> > 
> > What is in your /etc/lilo.conf now?
> 
> <>
> 
> lba32
> boot=/dev/hda
> root=/dev/hda3
> install=/boot/boot.b
> map=/boot/map
> delay=20
> vga=1
> append="apm=on"
> default=LinuxOld
> 
> image=/vmlinuz
> initrd=/initrd.img
> label=LinuxNew
> read-only
> 
> image=/vmlinuz.old
> initrd=/initrd.img.old
> label=LinuxOld
> read-only
> 
> image=/vmlinuz2.2
> label=Linux22
> read-only
> optional
> 
> All other lines are comments from original install.
> vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-686
> vmlinuz.old -> boot/vmlinuz-2.4.17-686
> vmlinuz.2.2 -> boot/vmlinuz-2.2.18pre21
> 
> initrd.img -> boot/initrd.img-2.4.18-686
> initrd.img.old -> boot/initrd.img-2.4.17-686
> 
> The weird thing w/ this is that 2.4.17 was using apm
> before I installed and did the dist-upgrade ( which
> btw did upgrade apmd ).
> 
> BTW, in my other post I mentioned a little pcmcia
> strangeness. Saw no reply, but I did a ``modprobe
> yenta_socket'' and then a ``modprobe xirc2ps_cs''
> and
> brought the pcmcia nic back up. I guess I need to
> use
> modconf again to make this semi-permanent?

<>

Okay, I ran modconf and installed apm module in the
kernel. Before wasn't apm built into most debian
kernel images? I also did a ``cp -R
/lib/modules/kernel-pcmcia-2.4.18-686
/lib/modules/2.4.18-686/pcmcia'' and the pcmcia
modules showed up in modconf. I installed
yenta_socket, xirc2ps_cs and a couple of other things.
Rebooted into 2.4.17 and presto, apmd started at boot
time as well as my pcmcia nic. Started up WindowMaker,
and wmbattery started as well. Next I'll see if I
can't get 2.4.18 to behave.One last strange thing,
uname -a reports 2.4.18-686, but linuxlogo is
reporting 2.4.17-686. /proc/version shows 2.4.18-686
as well.


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Re: postgresql upgrade problem

2002-03-06 Thread Charles Baker

--- Charles Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> After postgresql was kept back on both an upgrade
> and
> a dist-upgrade, I tried an install. This is the
> result:
> 
> twin:/etc/apt# apt-get install postgresql
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean
> that you have
> requested an impossible situation or if you are
> using
> the unstable
> distribution that some required packages have not
> yet
> been created
> or been moved out of Incoming.
> 
> Since you only requested a single operation it is
> extremely likely that
> the package is simply not installable and a bug
> report
> against
> that package should be filed.
> The following information may help to resolve the
> situation:
> 
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet
> dependencies:
>   postgresql: Conflicts: postgresql-client (< 7.2)
> but
> 7.1.3-8 is to be installed
> E: Sorry, broken packages
> 
> I used different mirrors over a couple of days w/
> the
> same result. However, on my laptop postgreslql 7.2-4
> installed just fine. But on my desktop I'm stuck at
> postgresql 7.1.3-8 .
> 
<>

Well, I just did an ``apt-get install
postgresql-client'' and it caused many supporting
packages to be installed including postgresql. Is this
indicative of a dependancy problem for these packages?


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postgresql upgrade problem

2002-03-06 Thread Charles Baker
After postgresql was kept back on both an upgrade and
a dist-upgrade, I tried an install. This is the
result:

twin:/etc/apt# apt-get install postgresql
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean
that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using
the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet
been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is
extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report
against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the
situation:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet
dependencies:
  postgresql: Conflicts: postgresql-client (< 7.2) but
7.1.3-8 is to be installed
E: Sorry, broken packages

I used different mirrors over a couple of days w/ the
same result. However, on my laptop postgreslql 7.2-4
installed just fine. But on my desktop I'm stuck at
postgresql 7.1.3-8 .

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Re: apm strangeness

2002-03-06 Thread Charles Baker

--- Nick Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi Charles,

<>

> > --- Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > Look in /proc.  There should be an apm file
> there. 
> > > If not, linux is NOT using
> > > apm.
> > 
> > Okay, no /proc/apm but what could've killed it for
> > 2.4.17 ? It was working just fine before I
> installed 2.4.18 .
> 
> What is in your /etc/lilo.conf now?

<>

lba32
boot=/dev/hda
root=/dev/hda3
install=/boot/boot.b
map=/boot/map
delay=20
vga=1
append="apm=on"
default=LinuxOld

image=/vmlinuz
initrd=/initrd.img
label=LinuxNew
read-only

image=/vmlinuz.old
initrd=/initrd.img.old
label=LinuxOld
read-only

image=/vmlinuz2.2
label=Linux22
read-only
optional

All other lines are comments from original install.
vmlinuz -> boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-686
vmlinuz.old -> boot/vmlinuz-2.4.17-686
vmlinuz.2.2 -> boot/vmlinuz-2.2.18pre21

initrd.img -> boot/initrd.img-2.4.18-686
initrd.img.old -> boot/initrd.img-2.4.17-686

The weird thing w/ this is that 2.4.17 was using apm
before I installed and did the dist-upgrade ( which
btw did upgrade apmd ).

BTW, in my other post I mentioned a little pcmcia
strangeness. Saw no reply, but I did a ``modprobe
yenta_socket'' and then a ``modprobe xirc2ps_cs'' and
brought the pcmcia nic back up. I guess I need to use
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Re: apm strangeness

2002-03-05 Thread Charles Baker

--- Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Look in /proc.  There should be an apm file there. 
> If not, linux is NOT using
> apm.

Okay, no /proc/apm but what could've killed it for
2.4.17 ? It was working just fine before I installed
2.4.18 .

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kernel-2.4.18-686-image and pcmcia

2002-03-05 Thread Charles Baker
I did an apt-get install of kernel-2.4.18-686 on my
Dell Latitude yesterday. Everything looked good, but
when I rebooted into 2.4.18, I had no pcmcia network
connection. A little investigation showed that the
pcmcia modules were installed to
/lib/modules/kernel-pcmcia-2.4.18-686 instead of
/lib/modules/2.4.18-686/pcmcia as was the case w/
2.4.17 ? What's up with that? I made a symlink in
/lib/modules/2.4.18 called pcmcia that points to
/lib/modules/kernel-pcmcia-2.4.18-686 , but that
didn't work. Also, booting 2.4.17 says "cramfs wrong
magic", but it boots. I just rebooted to 2.4.18, no
wrong magic error, but did get

``ds: no socket drivers loaded!''

Under the 2.4.17, lsmod shows yenta_socket and
af_packet loaded. I really don't know what either of
those modules do, can someone shed some light before I
dive into the module source? Under 2.4.18, af_packet
is loaded, but not yenta, and af is unused. BTW, I do
have a xircom pcmcia ethernet card.

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apm strangeness

2002-03-05 Thread Charles Baker
I had kernel-2.4.17-686-image running just fine w/ apm
support on my Dell Latitude. I think it's very nice of
the package maintainers to include that, btw. I have
the line append="apm=on" in my lilo.conf. Yesterday I
installed kernel-2.4.18-686-image. Now when booting
back into 2.4.17, wmbattery won't start. I tried
starting it on the command line, and it says no apm
support in the kernel. I also have apmd installed. One
of the early lines in /etc/init.d/apmd runs
/usr/lib/apmd/ampd/apm_exists , which I assume must
return a boolean value or non-zero or something or
else the script exits. An even earlier line looks for
the existance of /usr/sbin/apmd or cause the script to
exit. Both of those files exist, what is going on
here? If I run apm_exists from the command line I get
nada. Can anyone point in the right direction to solve
this? Why would it work before installing 2.4.18? I
also did an dist-upgrade yesterday. 

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Re: Getting Handspring Pilot Setup

2002-03-04 Thread Charles Baker
Take a look at these sites for help, using them I got
my visor to synch via usb w/ jpilot in sid
kernel2.2.19 & 2.4.17

http://www.linux.com/howto/mini/Handspring-Visor.html

http://usbvisor.sourceforge.net/index.php3


--- james martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok I am running Woody and want to get my Handspring
> Pilot to sync with
> my computer under Linux. This is one of the only
> reasons I still boot
> Windows. I am using Gnome with the Enlightenment
> window manager. When I
> go into the Gnome control center to setup the Pilot
> link it is looking
> for /dev/pilot for the port. I have looked in the
> /dev directory and
> that device is no where to be found. Can anyone tell
> me where I can get
> it. Thanks for any help.
> 
> 
> 
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Swap space

2002-02-24 Thread Charles Baker
I'm about to install sid, using unoffical iso's, on a
machine w/ 384MB of RAM. Old rule of thumb was
2*RAM-SIZE = SWAP-SIZE . Do I really need 768MB of
swap space?!?!?! Plus, since the install uses 2.2.20
kernel, will it be able to handle a swap space larger
than 128MB?

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Re: cvs question

2002-02-17 Thread Charles Baker
<>
> > 
> > I moved the source to a different machine where I
> had
> > set up a new repository. I edited the headers of
> the
> > files that had been checked in before, deleting
> the
> > expanded $ID$ information. I then proceeded to do
> a
> > standard ``cvs import`` of my project. I then
> checked
> > it out to see if all was well. The $Id$ keyword
> had
> > expanded w/ a revision number of 1.1.1.1 in all
> files,
> > indicating a CVS branch. Can anyone tell me why? I
> was
> > really expecting just 1.1 .
> 
> This is normal when using 'cvs import' to create a
> repository. It's a
> branch with which you can track 3rd party source
> trees. See the cvs
> book:
>
http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/cvsbook.html#Tracking_Third-Party_Sources__Vendor_Branches_
> 
> The version numbers should proceed normally (1.2,
> 1.3 etc) as you commit
> changes.
> 
> Really though, you should have just copied the cvs
> ,v files from the old
> repository directly to the new one, so you didn't
> lose any of the
> log/version information from the old archive.
> 
> 
> Matthew

Thanks. I looked at cvs book and realized that it was
a branch. It just wasn't what I'd expected to see on
initial import. I didn't mind losing old log/version
info ( there wasn't that much ) and a new baseline
seemed to be a good idea. Thanks again.

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cvs question

2002-02-17 Thread Charles Baker
Are there any cvs guru's on the list? I had some files
that had previously been checked into cvs. There were
also some files in the same project which had not been
checked in ever.

I moved the source to a different machine where I had
set up a new repository. I edited the headers of the
files that had been checked in before, deleting the
expanded $ID$ information. I then proceeded to do a
standard ``cvs import`` of my project. I then checked
it out to see if all was well. The $Id$ keyword had
expanded w/ a revision number of 1.1.1.1 in all files,
indicating a CVS branch. Can anyone tell me why? I was
really expecting just 1.1 . Oh, I did try to import
this project before setting $CVSROOT, but the import
failed, and if cvs didn't know what root, how could
that have created extraneous revision info?

If this is not deemed appropriate for the list, please
direct me to some other list or newsgroup, or we can
discuss it "offline".

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Are unofficial sid iso's bootable?

2002-02-16 Thread Charles Baker
Are the unofficial sid iso images bootable? Can I
install directly from them, or do I have to write the
floppy disk images they contain to floppies and then install?

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WAS-> Re: digital camera reccomendations for debian NOW-> kernel 2.4.x

2002-02-16 Thread Charles Baker

--- nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Gphoto2 allegedly supports my Canon PowerShot G2,
> but I never got
> > it to work; gphoto2 just insisted the camera
> wasn't there.
> 
> hmm, good to know, i guess the info there isn't too
> reliable.
> 
> > Fortunately, I found a better solution anyway. The
> G2 uses compact
> > flash (CF) cards for storage, and for $20 or so
> you can buy a USB
> > reader for these CF cards. The CF reader looks to
> Linux like a
> > removable SCSI drive, so you just put the card in
> it, mount the
> > card as a VFAT filesystem, and copy the files off
> of it. No gphoto
> > required. Though of course your kernel has to have
> decent USB
> > support, so I don't know if a 2.2 kernel would do.
> >
> 
> if this is the usb-storage driver it doesn't appear
> to
> be in 2.2.x ..so i can't use it..
> 
> 
> 
> > Consult Digital Photography Review at
> http://www.dpreview.com for
> > expert reviews and user opinions of a wide variety
> of digital
> > cameras.
> >
> > The PowerShot S300, according to DP Review, uses
> CF card storage,
> > so the card reader trick I mentioned above should
> work if your
> > system has good USB support.
> 
> yeah..cept i can't use 2.4.x kernel! too unstable
> for
> my needs.
> 
> 
<>

Pardon me if this is "hijacking the thread", but why
is 2.4.x too unstable? Are you planning on using the
digital camera w/ a server under high load? The only
problems I've seen w/ 2.4.x occur under extremely high
load, a situation that is unlikely to occur on the
average desktop machine or laptop. Once I got sid
switched over to 2.4.x it has been very nice on my
laptop.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ date; uname -a; uptime
Sat Feb 16 08:05:25 EST 2002
Linux voyager 2.4.17-686 #2 Sat Dec 22 21:58:49 EST
2001 i686 unknown
 08:05:25 up 6 days,  8:39,  4 users,  load average:
0.06, 0.37, 0.94
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base-passwd

2002-02-05 Thread Charles Baker
I just did an ``apt-get update`` and then ``apt-get -u
upgrade`` for sid. I noticed that base-passwd was
going to be upgraded again and recalled the problems
of a week or so ago. Is this one safe?

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Re: "RPM hell" question

2002-01-26 Thread Charles Baker

--- Alec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I was recently asked to help a Redhat user install
> an RPM file from 
> rpmfind.net. It had a dozen of unsatisfied
> dependencies that had their own 
> unsatisfied dependencies, etc. My only idea was to
> manually search 
> rpmfind.net, download the necessary RPMs and install
> them  with 'rpm 
> --install'. It's a very tedious process, considering
> that besides unsatisfied 
> dependencies, some packages have conflicts as well.
> Is there any way to 
> automate this process? Moving to Debian is out of
> the question, because that 
> Redhat user needs to run a certain proprietary
> program that only supports 
> Redhat <= 7.1
> 
<>

I to have been saddled w/ doing some admin work on a
couple of redhat machines. Recent versions of RH have
a utility called "up2date" which is like a poor man's
version of apt ;-) Anyway, so far I've only been able
to use it for redhat official mirrors and it seems to
only allow you to look for packages for the your
current version of redhat. Though I must confess that
I haven't really poked at it too hard...

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Re: Gtk error only when root! (??)

2002-01-22 Thread Charles Baker
man xhosts

--- Camilux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> im having this *very* strange error in deb 2.2 ,
> ximian gnome...
> 
> if i am not root, i can for example open gdmconfig,
> but it says i 
> need to be root to change things; so i su - myself
> up to root, but 
> when i type gdmconfig, i get this error:
> 
> Gtk Error: Can't Open display
> 
> same when triying to install the mozilla binary...
> if not root, the 
> graphical installation screen pops up, but of course
> i cant install 
> sh*t... so i su to root, and same Gtk error... 
> 
> whats wrong here?
> 
> thanks...
> camilo
> 
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Re: a modest proposal - Debian needs more $

2002-01-21 Thread Charles Baker
I think a careful reading of the following documents
might help in understanding the motivations behind the
debian project as a whole:

http://www.debian.org/intro/free

http://www.debian.org/social_contract

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > "Colin" == Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> 
>   Colin> On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 08:35:35AM -0800,
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>   >> I have the following modest proposal :
>   >> 
>   >> Debian should start charging for high-speed
> apt-get/dselect/whatever
>   >> downloads from it's sites.  56k is free,
> anything faster you pay for.
>   >> Then we can pay people to work on the not fun
> stuff that needs doing.
>   >> 
>   >> And people who download ISO's to sell should be
> paying a LOT.
>   >> 
>   >> And this is not a troll.  
> 
>   Colin> Are you sure it isn't? You do that and I
> guarantee you most of the
>   Colin> developers will leave.
> 
> yes I'm sure it isn't.
> 
> It may be in the course of discussion I will find
> it's a bad idea, and
> my thinking was wrong-headed. I will gladly admit it
> if that's the
> case.
> 
> Expand on why you think developers will leave, it's
> not obvious to me.
> 
> If I pay someone to do unfun work others don't like
> doing wouldn't
> that be a positive thing ?  And shouldn't the
> current developers be
> first in line in such a system ?
> 
> Or are you worried that if you can't pay _everyone_
> then it will cause
> envy problems.
> 
> I'm just guessing, please let me know your
> rationale.
> 
> 
> Brian
> 
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Re: kernel compile question

2002-01-20 Thread Charles Baker
--- Willi Dyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi *,
> 
> i am trying to build a bootable CD-ROM with debian
> which runs completly
> in RAM, for FW use. so i am trying to keep my kernel
> as small as possible.
<>

Unless this is just an exercise in learning, you might
want to check out http://leaf.sourceforge.net and have
a look at dachstein and oxygen.

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Re: What is "OT:"

2002-01-19 Thread Charles Baker

--- Pete Ryland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 02:56:56PM -0200, Jeronimo
> Pellegrini wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 11:47:39AM -0500, Wayne
> Topa wrote:
> > > > What "OT:" means seems to be known to many,
> but I haven't a
> > > > clue. Please enlighten me.
> > > 
> > > OT = Off Topic
> > > 
> > > :-) HTH, YMMV, HAND :-)
> > > 
> > > There is a package for for this kind of thing
> but I can't recall its
> > > name.
> > 
> > "vera" is the package with a list of acronyms.
> 
> dict also works nicely.  Try "dict -d jargon OT HAND
> HTH".
> 
> There's even gdict (a gnome front-end), and a gnome
> panel applet for it if
> you're into that sort of thing. :)
> 
> Pete
<>

I use wtf when I don't understand an acronym...like so
``wtf wtf`` on a cl ;-)

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Re: Fwd: Re: Upgrading Kernel the Debian way?

2002-01-17 Thread Charles Baker
--- Camilux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cant i use a 2.4.x one?
> 
> thanks
> 
> 

Note I said a debian kernel package ( read precompiled
and in .deb format ) You can of course compile your
own 2.4.x kernel for potato, but IIRC it takes a bit
of adjustment...There are some instructions and
packages for upgrading potato to the 2.4 kernel here:

http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html

If I'm wrong about this, someone correct me. I jumped
from potato to woody before potato became stable, and
then on to sid.
> On 17 Jan 2002, at 10:23, Charles Baker wrote:
> 
> > 
> > --- Camilux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi Charles,
> > > 
> > > Well, im using Debian 2.2 r5 (just upgraded a
> while
> > > ago to that)...
> > > 
> > > again, thanks a lot for all the help..
> > > 
> > > - Camilo
> > > 
> > > 
> > <>
> > 
> > In that case, the latest kernel package available
> for
> > you is 2.2.19. You are using the stable
> distribution,
> > code named potato.
> > 
> >
>
http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/kernel-image-2.2.19.html
> > 
> > 
> > 

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Re: Fwd: Re: Upgrading Kernel the Debian way?

2002-01-17 Thread Charles Baker

--- Camilux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Charles,
> 
> Well, im using Debian 2.2 r5 (just upgraded a while
> ago to that)...
> 
> again, thanks a lot for all the help..
> 
> - Camilo
> 
> 
<>

In that case, the latest kernel package available for
you is 2.2.19. You are using the stable distribution,
code named potato.

http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/kernel-image-2.2.19.html



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Fwd: Re: Upgrading Kernel the Debian way?

2002-01-17 Thread Charles Baker
Here is a more complete howto by another poster.
Kernel 2.5.x is the development series and not
recommended for new users. The latest stable kernels
are the 2.4 series. You don't mention what
distribution of debian you are using so it's hard to
tell what the latest debian kernel package for you
isYou can check available packages for your
distribution at:

http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages

--- dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 14:02:49 -0500
> From: dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Upgrading Kernel the Debian way?
> 
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 12:55:28PM -0800, Camilux
> wrote:
> | Hi ppl, just wanted to know if theres a "Debian"
> way of upgradind 
> | the kernel as well.. or is it still manually
> downloading, unzipping, 
> | etc etc?
> 
> # apt-get install kernel-image--
> # vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
> # reboot
> 
> or
> 
> # apt-get install kernel-source-
> $ cd /usr/src
> $ tar -jxvf kernel-source-.tar.bz2
> $ cd kernel-source-
> $ fakeroot make-kpkg clean 
> $ fakeroot make-kpkg --config=xconfig
> --append-to-version=-custom.1
> --revision=custom.1 kernel_image
> kernel_doc kernel_headers
> # dpkg -i
> ../kernel-image-__.deb
> # vim /boot/grub/menu.lst
> # reboot
> 
> I do both of these.  I run the custom kernel made
> via the latter
> steps, but keep a (recent) pre-packaged one just in
> case.
> 
> You can, of course, grab the tarball from kernel.org
> and do it
> yourself if you like that better.
> 
> -D
> 
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Re: Upgrading Kernel the Debian way?

2002-01-16 Thread Charles Baker

--- Camilux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi ppl, just wanted to know if theres a "Debian" way
> of upgradind 
> the kernel as well.. or is it still manually
> downloading, unzipping, 
> etc etc?
> 
> thanks!
> Camilo
> 
> 

Debian way to compile a new kernel:

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-post-install.en.html#s-kernel-baking

Or use apt-get install kernel-package-of-your-choice




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Re: base files for woody?

2002-01-15 Thread Charles Baker

--- "Thomas R. Shemanske" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> 
> 
> > Will this allow one to install a 2.4.x kernel as
> the
> > default kernel upon installation? Or will the
> default
> > kernel be in the 2.2.x series?
> > 
> 
> No; these CD's are built with boot-floppies, hence
> uses the 2.2.x series 
> kernel.
> 
> The 2.4.x kernel images will be on the CD (which you
> can install after 
> the base install), but if you really need a 2.4
> kernel to boot your 
> machine (I would think this most unusual), you will 
> have to build a 
> custom set of CDs
> 

No, I don't need 2.4.x to boot my machine. I've just
been having problems on a laptop that started life as
potato (2.2.x kernel) and was dist-upgraded to woody
and then sid. I had been trying to install a 2.4.x
kernel from the standard debian packages and at first
stumbled over the initrd stuff and then had problems
w/ modules. Since I'm at home today caring for a sick
child, I will go over the modules and their
configuration again and the diffs between using a
2.2.x kernel and the 2.4.x kernels.

I would like to install woody and dist-upgrade it to
sid on another machine. It might be simpler on a
desktop w/o the pcmcia stuff to worry about.

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Re: base files for woody?

2002-01-15 Thread Charles Baker

--- "Thomas R. Shemanske" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I did not see mentioned in this long thread, the
> possibility of woody CD 
> installs.
> 
> iso images are available at
> http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#testing
> 
> You need only the first image to do a "base"
> install, but burning the 
> rest will allow a complete CD install.
> 
> 
> If you cannot burn images, you may be able to find a
> vendor who sells 
> "development versions" of debian.  See
> http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/
> 
> TRS
> 

<>

Will this allow one to install a 2.4.x kernel as the
default kernel upon installation? Or will the default
kernel be in the 2.2.x series?


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compiling sources and apt

2002-01-03 Thread Charles Baker
A few weeks ago, someone mentioned a way to compile
programs from source using an apt tool that would go
and get any missing components needed to compile said
sources. What was this utility? I can't for the life
of me recall what it was.

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Re: Windowmaker 0.80 key bindings

2001-12-30 Thread Charles Baker

--- Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 02:20:02PM -0800, Charles
> Baker wrote:
> > Did an apt-get upgrade today and got WindowMaker
> 0.80.
> > Now none of the Windowmaker keybindings seem to be
> > working,
> 
> Since they're all configurable, have you checked to
> see if they are still
> set as you expect them to be?
> 
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Yes, I checked in WPrefs and all is set as expected. I
even went so far as to use the capture feature to make
sure it had alt+n for all my workspaces. No luck. 




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Windowmaker 0.80 key bindings

2001-12-30 Thread Charles Baker
Did an apt-get upgrade today and got WindowMaker 0.80.
Now none of the Windowmaker keybindings seem to be
working, for instance alt-n where n=1..10 to switch
between workspaces, or F12 to bring up the application
menu. Anyone else experiencing this? Any work arounds
or particular places to look?

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Re: what does a debian kid look like?

2001-12-21 Thread Charles Baker
Forgot to mention that I am African-American. I do
have a degree in Computer Science (Yale dropout class
of 88, finally graduated from Univ of Tennessee at
Chattanooga 99). I program mostly in Java and Perl,
though I long for Python. I've been using Linux since
Redhat 5.0. Started w/ Slink in late 99 or early 2000.
Debian is my preferred distro now, gotta love apt-get
and the free software ethos displayed bu the debian
volunteers!



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Re: what does a debian kid look like?

2001-12-20 Thread Charles Baker
This debian-kid is 35, married w/ two kids and one on
the way. My first computer was a Tandy TRS-80.
Computers, programming and sysadmin stuff, are my
second profession. I was once a bookstore manager! Now
I am a fulltime web developer/webmaster for a major
manufacturer of electrical motors and other
powersystems and a part time admin/troubleshooter for
a struggling dot.com .


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Re: "C" Manual

2001-12-20 Thread Charles Baker
--- Lev Lvovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> for C, I would recommend the Kernighan & Ritchie
> book.
> 
> -lev
> 
> On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Phil Beder wrote:
> 
> > Where can I find a good, complete manual for C and
> C++ programming
> > languages for the gcc compiler.  Other resouces
> for learning C also
> > accepted.  I played with C when I was a mainframe
> programmer and wanted to
> > get back in touch with it again.
> >

<>

http://www.gnu.org/order/order.html

The C++ Programming Language by Stroustrup
http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?theisbn=0201889544&vm=

The C Programming Language by Kernighan and Ritchie
http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?theisbn=0131103628&vm=

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Re: GnomeICU, Gaim, Gabber and alike

2001-12-14 Thread Charles Baker

--- Markus Moser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > I know recently that icq changes its protocol and
> breaking some
> > ICQ client like GnomeICU, Gabber, and Gaim.  I
> used GnomeICU and
> > encounter a lot of problem like dropping message
> silently.  Just
> > wondering if the protocol change issues being
> addressed?  What client
> > should I use?
> 
> I was using licq a long time and encountered the
> same problem - people 
> thought I ignored them, because ICQ dropped my
> messages. :-(
> I'm using ickle now. It is a GTK program and does
> not have many 
> features yet, but the basic stuff is implemented -
> and it handles the 
> new protocol. I also tried kxicq2, but it crashed
> several times and has 
> no onvent-mechanism (playing sounds etc.). The licq
> people are working 
> on implementing the new protocol, too.
> 
> 
> Markus

Did everybuddy get broken by the protocol change? The
last update on their website was 01 July 2001, last
version 0.2.1-beta6 . I'm not at my debian/sid box
right now, but I think that's the version I've still
got. Just checked the unstable packages and that
version is cvs 20011001-1 .


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Re: Latest GnuCash .debs

2001-12-13 Thread Charles Baker

--- Stan Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I found .debs of the latest GnuCash at
> www.gnucash.org, but no discussion
> of what version of Debian they are for.
> 
> Any chance these will work on woody? 
> 
> -- 
> Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
> 843-745-3154
> Charleston SC.
> -- 
<>

If you're not sold on woody, try sid. I'm using
gnucash 1.6.4 quite happily w/ sid. Plus, I've seen
here on the list that running unstable or stable is
the better way to go rather than testing. Someone
correct me if I'm wrong, but fixes/improvements
developed in unstable take two weeks to get into
testing. Anything that is broken in unstable usually
gets fixed very rapidly.

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Re: Problems upgrading kernel

2001-12-10 Thread Charles Baker

--- Daniel Toffetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday 09 December 2001 18:58, William P Martin
> wrote:
> > I have been trying to upgrade both a woody box and
> a sid box to a 2.4
> > kernel (2.4.16 and 2.4.14 respectively). I use
> make-kpkg and
> 
> If your old kernel was of the 2.2.x series, then you
> should upgrade 
> some packages to a newer version, this is documented
> within the kernel 
> source, in /Documentation/Changes. Check the version
> of your packages.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
<>

Shouldn't an apt-get install kernel-image. upgrade
those other packages as well? I've just been trying to
use the debian stock kernel images for 2.4 before
compiling a custom kernel.

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Re: Problems upgrading kernel

2001-12-10 Thread Charles Baker

--- William P Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have been trying to upgrade both a woody box and a
> sid box to a 2.4 kernel
> (2.4.16 and 2.4.14 respectively). I use make-kpkg
> and everthing seems to
> work fine but I don't have a network when I reboot
> into the new kernel. It
> looks like the nic module loads but I cannot ping
> anything. If I go back to
> the old kernel still installed on the system I have
> network connectivity
> just fine. I am using dhcp in both places so maybe
> that is an issue. I am
> installing it like this:
> 
> Running dslelect and getting
> kernel-source-2.4.14.tar.bz2
> bunzip2 and untar the source
> menuconfig
> make-kpkg -rev cusotm.1 kernel_image
> dpkg --install newkernelimage.deb
> 
> Then I reboot. Any help on this would be greatly
> appreciated.
> 
<>

I have been having similar problems using the stock
kernel packages on my laptop. I haven't even tried
compiling my own custom kernel for 2.4.x yet.


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Re: Yahoo messenger

2001-12-01 Thread Charles Baker

--- Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Titty Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I use yahoo messenger for x.
> 
>   Guess I should have been more specific. I already
> have Yahoo!
>   Messenger; I was looking for the most popular
> Debian package. So
>   far, it appears to be gaim. Anyone else want to
> submit a vote?
> 
<>

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Re: Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00

2001-11-30 Thread Charles Baker
> > > <>
> > > 
> > > Now, I'm really confused. I haven't been able to
> > get
> > > any of the 2.4.x debian kernel packages to boot
> > and
> > > everything I had read previously in the list
> > archives
> > > indicated that the initrd line was necessary for
> > 2.4.x
> > > kernels. I never had any problems with 2.0.x or
> > 2.2.x
> > > kernels.
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > I never tried a 2.4.x kernel and I do not know if
> > there is a default 
> > configuration for the 2.4.x debian kernel
> packages.
> > In case there is 
> > none, could it be that you are expected to have
> ram
> > disk support when 
> > configuring the 2.4.x debian kernel?
> > 
> > And since you were asking, why won't you add more
> > details about what 
> > you have done and where does the booting process
> > stop?
> > 
> 
> I will when I get home this evening. I've been down
> this road on the list before with no relief. I've
> been
> too busy doing some other stuff to go on a "I've got
> to make this 2.4.x kernel work" type binge,
> especially
> since my 2.2.x kernel is working nicely. I did
> however
> provide quite a few details on one of my attempts.
> In
> fact here is the message in the archives:
> 
>
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/debian-user-200110/msg00635.html
> 
> I have since tried with a 2.4.10 and 2.4.12 kernel
> with the same results, and then I had problems with
> modules as well on the 2.4.12. But like I said, I
> will
> try again tonight and give more details. BTW, these
> problems were with the stock debian kernel packages.
> I
> haven't even tried to compile 2.4.x for myself yet
> using the traditional methods or the debian way.

Dell Latitude CPi D300XT 128MB Ram PII 300Mhz

lilo.conf

vga=1
append="apm=on"
default=Linux22

# kernel 2.4.12
image=/vmlinuz
initrd=/boot/initrd
label=LinuxNew
read-only

# kernel 2.4.10
image=/vmlinuz.old
initrd=/boot/initrd-2.4.10-686
label=LinuxOld
read-only

# kernel 2.2.18pre
image=/vmlinuz.2.2
label=Linux22
read-only


Well, shoot. I cleaned up my lilo.conf, found a
mistake when going over it this time and presto, the
2.4.12 kernel booted and the modules loaded but not
pcmcia. Well, I take that back, the pcmcia_core module
loaded, but not the module for my pcmcia NIC. 

In fact, here are the modules loaded by 2.2.18pre21

af_packet
xirc2ps_cs
serial_cs
ds
i82365
pcmcia_core
serial
nfs
lockd
sunrpc
smbfs
vfat
unix

And here are the modules loaded by 2.4.12

pcmcia_core
nfs
lockd
sunrpc
smbfs
vfat
fat
rtc
unix
ide-disk
ide-probe-mod
ide-mod
ext2

I tried to insmod i82365.o from
/lib/modules/2.4.12-686/pcmcia and got "i82365.o:
unresolved symbol isapnp_find_dev_R7651deff" . I got
similar messages when try to load the other missing
modules.




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Re: X11/Xlib.h X11/xpm.h

2001-11-30 Thread Charles Baker

--- Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On 30-Nov-2001 Charles Baker wrote:
> > I just found this neat little doc app for
> windowmaker
> > called wmfortune. I tried to compile it, but it
> can't
> > find these include files: X11/Xlib.h X11/xpm.h .
> What
> > packages do I need to install to get these include
> > files and presumably their implementations? I
> checked
> > and wmfortune is not an official deb package.
> Thanks.
> > 
> 
> Easy answer: xlib-dev.
> 
> Teach a man to fish answer: install auto-apt and
> 
> $ auto-apt search Xlib.h
> usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xlib.hdevel/xlibs-dev


Thanks. I'm falling in love with Debian! The apt suite
of tools is a magnificent piece of work.



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Re: Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00

2001-11-30 Thread Charles Baker

--- Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > --- Xeno Campanoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Shaul Karl wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > As my subject line indicates, I'm getting
> the
> > > diagnostic:
> > > > >
> > > > >   Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount
> root fs
> > > on 01:00
> > > > >
> > > > > when I try to boot up with my home grown
> kernel.
> > >  I've tried several
> > > > > things with lilo on this, but I'm stumped. 
> rdev
> > > indicates the root
> > > > > partition is /dev/hda1, which is what I
> expect,
> > > and I seem to have good
> > > > > lilo entries, as follows:
> > > > >
> > > > > image=/vmlinuz
> > > > > label=Linux
> > > > > read-only
> > > > > initrd=/boot/initrd
> > > 
> > >   Okay, you were right about initrd.  I took
> that
> > > out and it
> > >   works.  Thank you.
> > > 
> > <>
> > 
> > Now, I'm really confused. I haven't been able to
> get
> > any of the 2.4.x debian kernel packages to boot
> and
> > everything I had read previously in the list
> archives
> > indicated that the initrd line was necessary for
> 2.4.x
> > kernels. I never had any problems with 2.0.x or
> 2.2.x
> > kernels.
> > 
> 
> 
> I never tried a 2.4.x kernel and I do not know if
> there is a default 
> configuration for the 2.4.x debian kernel packages.
> In case there is 
> none, could it be that you are expected to have ram
> disk support when 
> configuring the 2.4.x debian kernel?
> 
> And since you were asking, why won't you add more
> details about what 
> you have done and where does the booting process
> stop?
> 

I will when I get home this evening. I've been down
this road on the list before with no relief. I've been
too busy doing some other stuff to go on a "I've got
to make this 2.4.x kernel work" type binge, especially
since my 2.2.x kernel is working nicely. I did however
provide quite a few details on one of my attempts. In
fact here is the message in the archives:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2001/debian-user-200110/msg00635.html

I have since tried with a 2.4.10 and 2.4.12 kernel
with the same results, and then I had problems with
modules as well on the 2.4.12. But like I said, I will
try again tonight and give more details. BTW, these
problems were with the stock debian kernel packages. I
haven't even tried to compile 2.4.x for myself yet
using the traditional methods or the debian way.

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Re: Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 01:00

2001-11-29 Thread Charles Baker

--- Xeno Campanoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Shaul Karl wrote:
> > 
> > > As my subject line indicates, I'm getting the
> diagnostic:
> > >
> > >   Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs
> on 01:00
> > >
> > > when I try to boot up with my home grown kernel.
>  I've tried several
> > > things with lilo on this, but I'm stumped.  rdev
> indicates the root
> > > partition is /dev/hda1, which is what I expect,
> and I seem to have good
> > > lilo entries, as follows:
> > >
> > > image=/vmlinuz
> > > label=Linux
> > > read-only
> > > initrd=/boot/initrd
> 
>   Okay, you were right about initrd.  I took that
> out and it
>   works.  Thank you.
> 
<>

Now, I'm really confused. I haven't been able to get
any of the 2.4.x debian kernel packages to boot and
everything I had read previously in the list archives
indicated that the initrd line was necessary for 2.4.x
kernels. I never had any problems with 2.0.x or 2.2.x
kernels.


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Re: Thoughts on RTFM

2001-11-29 Thread Charles Baker

<>

> > >  apt-get install linuxcookbook
> I just tried the above using source.list entries for
> stable, and it
> wasn't downloaded:
> 
> inneal:~# apt-get install linuxcookbook
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> E: Couldn't find package linuxcookbook
> inneal:~# apt-cache search linuxcookbook
> inneal:~# 
> 
> If there was a different spelling or something
> please let me know.  I'd
> like to get this document.
> 
<>

I just got in, but I'm using unstable.


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X11/Xlib.h X11/xpm.h

2001-11-29 Thread Charles Baker
I just found this neat little doc app for windowmaker
called wmfortune. I tried to compile it, but it can't
find these include files: X11/Xlib.h X11/xpm.h . What
packages do I need to install to get these include
files and presumably their implementations? I checked
and wmfortune is not an official deb package. Thanks.

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Re: apt-get bugzilla/sid ....Preconfiguring packages....

2001-11-22 Thread Charles Baker

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 03:20:20PM -0500, Charles
> Baker wrote:
> > I am enountering a problem when doing an `apt-get
> install bugzilla`. The 
> > process goes along fine until the line
> "Preconfiguring packages ..." is 
> > displayed then nothing else happens.
> That not a very good news :-)
> 
> > I did not have mysql installed, so 
> > I installed that thinking there was a dependency
> problem. Same result. 
> Well you need a mysql database on the network, but
> since it mustn't need
> to be on the same server Bugzilla doesn't depend on
> mysql-server but only
> on other mysql tools. Even if your database run on
> your local machine,
> you must allow network connexion.
> 
> > This happened last week.  I tried the same thing
> last night. I even ran 
> > dselect last night and let it resolve all the
> dependencies and still got 
> > stuck at the same place. Everything on this box
> has been dist-upgraded 
> > to sid except the kernel which is a whole other
> problem ( never had 
> > kernel problems before 2.4.x :(  oh well ) Any
> clue as to what is going 
> > on? I've never run into this problem with a
> package before, I've been 
> > running debian on laptops for 2 years now.
> I no problem exepte maybe that should do an apt-get
> upgrade not a dist-
> upgrade.
> 
> Well the next step for you will be to try this
> commande:
> # DEBCONF_DEBUG='developer' apt-get install bugzilla
> 
> And enter a bug with the result. Take care to remove
> all password in the
> resulte that are in clear text.
> 
> You may use the package reportbug to get help on bug
> reporting.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rémi


I will file a bug if think it's best. I ran the
command as you specified and it seems that their are
some questions that need to be answered and the the
install/configure process is getting in a loop. How
does one reset the importance level of questions that
will be displayed during an install?

Here is a snippet of the output of the command:
debconf (developer): --> 0 ok
debconf (developer): <-- GET
bugzilla/bugzilla_admin_name
debconf (developer): --> 0 
debconf (developer): <-- FGET
bugzilla/bugzilla_admin_pwd seen
debconf (developer): --> 0 false
debconf (developer): <-- SET bugzilla/pwd_check 
debconf (developer): --> 0 value set
debconf (developer): <-- BEGINBLOCK 
debconf (developer): --> 0
debconf (developer): <-- INPUT high
bugzilla/bugzilla_admin_name
debconf (developer): --> 30 question skipped
debconf (developer): <-- INPUT high
bugzilla/bugzilla_admin_real_name
debconf (developer): --> 30 question skipped
debconf (developer): <-- INPUT high
bugzilla/bugzilla_admin_pwd
debconf (developer): --> 30 question skipped
debconf (developer): <-- ENDBLOCK 
debconf (developer): --> 0
debconf (developer): <-- GO 
debconf (developer): --> 0 ok
debconf (developer): <-- GET
bugzilla/bugzilla_admin_name
debconf (developer): --> 0 
debconf (developer): <-- FGET
bugzilla/bugzilla_admin_pwd seen
debconf (developer): --> 0 false
debconf (developer): <-- SET bugzilla/pwd_check 

Thanks for the tip!


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UPS hardware and software

2001-11-20 Thread Charles Baker
What brands of UPS's do you all use? What software do
you use on your debian boxen to interface with the UPS?

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Re: Recommendations on Linux C/C++/Java IDE?

2001-11-19 Thread Charles Baker

--- joe golden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Any recommendations for a good Integrated
> Devevlopment Environment?
> 
> My brother has used MS Developer Studio and likes
> working with it.
> 
> I'm encouraging him to make the switch to Linux. 
> We've looked at code 
> warrior, code crusader, anjuta, code forge, kdevelop
> and code medic and 
> others.  He is willing to pay $ for good tools.
> 
<>

I like netbeans, http://www.netbeans.org/ , for Java
coding. It does have support for C++, but I haven't
used it for that. The closed source version sold by
Sun, Forte - http://www.sun.com/forte/ffj/resources/ ,
is somewhat more full featured.


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bugzilla in sid/unstable

2001-11-14 Thread Charles Baker
I tried to install buzilla on my sid/unstable machine
via `apt-get install buzilla` and it seemed as if all
was going fine until I got a message "Preconfiguring
packages..." It would never go any further, just maxed
out the cpu. I did not have mysql installed, I seem to
recall that bugzilla uses mysql, so I installed it and
tried bugzilla again with the same result. Any clues?

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bastille deb

2001-11-12 Thread Charles Baker
Has anyone used the Bastille deb package? If so, what
were the results? I have used Bastille on Redhat and
Mandrake systems, but haven't seen anything about
using it on Debian systems.

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Re: mozilla 0.9.5 on sid

2001-11-11 Thread Charles Baker

--- Mario Vukelic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2001-11-10 at 19:27, Charles Baker wrote:
> >
> > I can't get Mozilla nor Galeon 0.12.4 to display
> https
> > pages. for instance https://login.yahoo.com/ and
> even
> > going to http://login.yahoo.com, filling in my uid
> and
> > pw and pressing submit yeilds nada.
> 
> You probably don't have mozilla-psm installed
> -- 
> 


Thanks, is this a well known problem? If it's been
discussed often, sorry for bringing it up again. I
must admit that I didn't search the archives this time.

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Re: mozilla 0.9.5 on sid

2001-11-10 Thread Charles Baker

--- Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 05:06:26PM -0800, Charles
> Baker wrote:
> > When I start mozilla 0.9.5 on sid I get an error
> > "Cannot create browser instance"
> 
> Move your ~/.mozilla directory somewhere else and
> let Moz recreate it.  I
> bet it works now.
> 
> Do you use something other than one of the
> pre-packaged skins?
> 
<>

Thanks. Mozilla now starts. No, I haven't done
anything with the skins on this machine yet. However,
I can't get Mozilla nor Galeon 0.12.4 to display https
pages. for instance https://login.yahoo.com/ and even
going to http://login.yahoo.com, filling in my uid and
pw and pressing submit yeilds nada.

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mozilla 0.9.5 on sid

2001-11-09 Thread Charles Baker
When I start mozilla 0.9.5 on sid I get an error
"Cannot create browser instance" I installed mozilla
via apt-get of the deb package. I'm currently running
2.2.18 kernel and xfree 4.1 and windowmaker .70. I
tried to launch from the commandline in an eterm to
see any error output, but still only got that single
error message which pops up in an xwindow.

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Re: Terminals not closing?

2001-10-26 Thread Charles Baker

--- Ian Su <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this
> problem, when I exit
> an rxvt or Eterm (using exit, or Ctrl-D), the
> terminal just hangs, bash
> becomes defunct but the terminal process doesn't
> die.
> 
> gnome-terminal and xterm still exits properly.
> 
> I'm wondering why, and whether other ppl have this
> problem? I noticed
> this on a seperate box a while ago but that seemed
> to fix itself over
> time.
> 
> Thanks,
> Aq.
> 
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I see this sometimes when I have used ssh in an Eterm
and then use `^D` or `exit` to end the ssh session.



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