Re: GNU .screenrc and scrolling problem

[Chris Burkhardt]

On 02/26/2010 10:27 AM, Matthew Moore wrote:
> On Friday February 26 2010 9:42:09 am wishi wrote:
>> Am 26.02.10 12:20, schrieb Alex Samad:
>> Well... when I do that I can scroll up, but just within he
>> xfce4-terminal, rxvt... buffer.
>> That means I leave screen's screen, where the current screen-window's
>> text is rolling.
> 
> If I understand you correctly, you want some way to easily scroll *inside* of 
> screen. AFAIK the easiest way to do this is to use the "copy" command, by 
> default 'ctrl-a ['. I guess that if you want to use pageup to scroll, you 
> could bind it using the appropriately named "bind" command in your .screenrc 
> file.

Yes, you want screen's copy/scrollback mode. By default this gives you vi-like
bindings to scroll around with. From the man page:

h, j, k, l move the cursor line by line or column by column.
0, ^ and $ move to the leftmost column, to the first or last non-whitespace
character on the line.
H, M and L move the cursor to the leftmost column of the top, center or bottom
line of the window.
+ and - positions one line up and down.
G moves to the specified absolute line (default: end of buffer).
| moves to the specified absolute column.
w, b, e move the cursor word by word.
B, E move the cursor WORD by WORD (as in vi).
C-u and C-d scroll the display up/down by the specified amount of lines  while
preserving  the  cursor  position. (Default: half screen-full).
C-b and C-f scroll the display up/down a full screen.
g moves to the beginning of the buffer.
% jumps to the specified percentage of the buffer.

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Re: regexp for rename command - please help!

[Chris Burkhardt]

Vadkan Jozsef wrote:
> The filename, that i want to rename:
> 
> ---vol.-01-disk-cantatas-bwv-3;
> 
> commands, that doesn't work:
> 
> $ rename 's/^---//g' *
> Unknown option: -vol.-01-disk-cantatas-bwv-3;
> Usage: rename [-v] [-n] [-f] perlexpr [filenames]

Use:
rename 's/^---//g' -- *

The -- is commonly used to let programs know that whatever follows should not be
interpreted as an option (which is necessary because your file name begins with 
--)

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Re: Inquiry:What is the equivalent of "ping -f -l" on the Debian server?

[Chris Burkhardt]

Mariusz Sielicki wrote:
> 2009/11/18 hadi motamedi :
>> Thank you very much for your reply . Please be informed that it seems to me
>> that the "-f" means flood ping and so the same option on the Debian server .
>> (I mean "#ping -f -s 20 www.google.com)
>> Thank you in advance
> 
> On Win Box:
> -f = Set Don't Fragment flag in packet.

So with BSD/Linux ping, the equivalent seems to be: ping -M do

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Re: gtk2 environment, what controls it?

[Chris Burkhardt]

vr wrote:
> 
> Any other suggestions are greatly appreciated!

Does Thunar work correctly on your system? If so, I'd file a bug against pcmanfm
and see if you and the package maintainer can figure it out together.

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Re: should debian FAQ suggest "alpine" as an alternative to "pine"?

[Chris Burkhardt]

Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>   currently perusing the FAQ, section 5.10 asks, "where is pine?"
> since alpine is apparently available for debian, shouldn't that
> section at least mention that alternative?  i've used alpine as a
> drop-in replacement for pine on fedora for quite some time.

Yes, I think that would be a good idea.

>is there a better place to make that suggestion?

>From FAQ Section 16.2 "Feedback":

Comments and additions to this document are always welcome. Please send e-mail
to doc-deb...@packages.debian.org, or submit a wishlist bug report against the
debian-faq package.

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Re: "Unable to perform shutdown" from Xfce

[Chris Burkhardt]

Liviu Andronic wrote:
> Hello,
> The /etc/PolicyKit/PolicyKit.conf that I have is an exact replica of
> the one that you attached. Unfortunately it is not enough to
> shutdown/reboot Xfce. I am looking for one similar to the one attached
> in this e-mail [1], but that is known to solve the issue.
> Liviu
> 
> [1] 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-d...@lists.debian.org/msg641252.html

I don't think editing the default PolicyKit.conf should be necessary.

Are you starting Xfce with startx/startxfce4 from ~/.xinitrc or similar? If so,
make sure to start it with the ck-launch-session command.

For example, if your .xinitrc file currently contains

exec startxfce4

replace it with

ck-launch-session startxfce4

That way you get a ConsoleKit session and everything (Shutdown, suspend,
automount, etc) should work again.

(Alternatively, that thread you linked to suggested you can put "exec
startxfce4" in .xession, and then start with startx, and Debian will take care
of the ck stuff.)

If you are using GDM or KDM, then something else is wrong...

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Re: Help - Updated Squeeze Last Night and My System is Messed Up!

[Chris Burkhardt]

Mark Phillips wrote:
> I ran my usual apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade last night on my
> Debian squeeze system. There were no errors, and when I rebooted, I was
> able to login, but gnome (1) generated an error message and (2) I only
> got as far as my wallpaper and items on the Desktop. No menu bar (just
> white band) and no panel at the bottom of the screen. I tried
> dpkg-reconfigure gnome, but gnome had been removed! So I reinstalled it,
> and still the same problem. Any suggestions where to look for the
> problem or how to fix it? Right now my main machine is no more than a
> paperweight!

These bug reports might be related to your problem:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=538879
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=481030

Can you update your gnome-settings-daemon to the 2.26.* version in unstable and
see if that fixes the issue?

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Re: GNOME settings on start up

[Chris Burkhardt]

AG wrote:
> Hello list & happy birthday Debian ... sweet 16 and all of that ;-)
> 
[...]

> Anyway,
> one of the issues I am finding is that the gnome-screensaver is
> triggered on start up and runs in the background, but despite being
> configured to kick in after 20 minutes of inactivity, it doesn't.  I
> also prefer the xscreensaver which can be configured to lock the screen
> after a bit and does so reliably.

You can use xscreensaver instead of gnome-screensaver:

aptitude remove gnome-screensaver
aptitude install xscreensaver

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Re: iceweasel 3.5?

[Chris Burkhardt]

Chris Burkhardt wrote:
> Soren Orel wrote:
>> When will Iceweasel 3.5 come to Debian Lenny? :P
> 
> A Lenny backport is a step closer, as it was just uploaded to experimental:
> 
> http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391

And even better, Mike Hommey just posted step-by-step instructions on installing
Iceweasel 3.5 on Lenny:

http://glandium.org/blog/?p=406

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Re: iceweasel 3.5?

[Chris Burkhardt]

Soren Orel wrote:
> When will Iceweasel 3.5 come to Debian Lenny? :P

A Lenny backport is a step closer, as it was just uploaded to experimental:

http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391

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Re: chown question

[Chris Burkhardt]

Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>> I know that I could have used find to look for all files owned by the
>> old UID, plunked it through xargs and chowned them that way, but is
>> there a way, as root, to chown directly the hidden files without
>> chowning the whole box?
> 
> Instead of
>> r...@plot:/home/dtbrowser# chown -R dtbrowser.dtbrowser .*
> 
> do
> r...@plot:/home/dtbrowser# chown -R dtbrowser.dtbrowser /home/dtbrowser/.*

Hi Johannes,

Wouldn't the shell still expand the argument list to include
'/home/dtbrowser/..' and result in the same problem?

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Re: chown question

[Chris Burkhardt]

Chris Jackson wrote:
> Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> 
>> I know that I could have used find to look for all files owned by the
>> old UID, plunked it through xargs and chowned them that way, but is
>> there a way, as root, to chown directly the hidden files without
>> chowning the whole box?
> 
> 
> The simplest way would be to recursively chown the home directory:
> 
> chown chrisj.chrisj ~chrisj
> 
> That won't follow the .. link.

Shouldn't that include the recursive flag?

chown -R chrisj.chrisj ~chrisj

Otherwise it just changes the owner of the directory and not all the
files in it.

And here are a couple of other flags from the chown(1) manpage which render
chown a less dangerous command:

--from=CURRENT_OWNER:CURRENT_GROUP
change the owner and/or group of each file only if its current owner
and/or group match those specified here.  Either may be omitted, in
which case a match is not required for the omitted attribute.

--preserve-root
fail to operate recursively on /

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Re: chown question

[Chris Burkhardt]

Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
[...]
> I know that I could have used find to look for all files owned by the
> old UID, plunked it through xargs and chowned them that way, but is
> there a way, as root, to chown directly the hidden files without
> chowning the whole box?
> 
> Just for my future reference?

I found this suggestion from some message board*

$ chown user:group .[!.]*

That uses the shell pattern matching to exclude '..' by skipping any files whose
second character is a dot. Unfortunately it will also skip any hidden files with
names like '..filename'

*http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?admit=109447626+1246551046034+28353475&threadId=966579

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Re: iceweasel 3.5?

[Chris Burkhardt]

>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Soren Orel > > wrote:
>> 
>> When will Iceweasel 3.5 come to Debian Lenny? :P
>> 
>> I hope this bug
>> 
>> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=525938

> I download it from http://packages.debian.org/sid/iceweasel
> but the bug still exists :D :)

Unless I'm reading that page wrong, the version of iceweasel in Sid is 3.0.11,
NOT 3.5.

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Re: compiling ZSNES from source

[Chris Burkhardt]

Umarzuki Mochlis wrote:
> Following article from
> http://www.burghardt.pl/2008/01/zsnes-amd64-debian-opengl-troubles/
> 
[...]
> 
> config.log >> http://pastebin.com/f5459ec04
> 
> hope somebody can give me direction on solving this.

>From your config.log:

#/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libSDL.so when searching for -lSDL
#/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libSDL.a when searching for -lSDL
#/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libSDL.so when searching for -lSDL
#/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libSDL.a when searching for -lSDL
#/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.3.3/../../../libSDL.so when searching for -lSDL
#/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.3.3/../../../libSDL.a when searching for -lSDL
#/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libSDL.so when searching for -lSDL
#/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libSDL.a when searching for -lSDL
#/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lSDL

Which I think means it can't find the 32-bit version of libsdl.

Do you have the package ia32-libs installed? What version?

This bug report might be helpful:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=402104

Particularly, you might need to apply Josh Triplett's patch from message #24 of
that bug report:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=24;filename=zsnes-x86-64.patch;att=1;bug=402104

But I don't have a 64-bit system, so I've never had the pleasure of sorting out
the whole 32/64-bit library mess. I hope this points you in the right direction.

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Re: Services / Runlevel editor

[Chris Burkhardt]

Allen Kenner wrote:
> Hey all,
[...]
> 
> In SUSE, I'd use YAST2 and open the Runlevel editor so I could set up
> what I wanted as far as running processes, and shut off servers I didn't
> need running. In Slackware I just didn't set up many by default and only
> started what I wanted, but on Debian, what are the tools available for this?
[...]
> So is there an application you guys use for Debian to turn processes off
> and on? Any help is appreciated, thanks much, and Hope this wasn't to long,

I think any one of these packages can do what you want, some more user-friendly
than others:

chkconfig - system tool to enable or disable system services
rcconf - Debian Runlevel configuration tool
sysv-rc-conf - SysV init runlevel configuration tool for the terminal
sysvconfig - A text menu based utility for configuring init script links
sysv-rc - System-V-like runlevel change mechanism

These packages contain GUI tools for managing services:

bum - graphical runlevel editor
ksysv - KDE SysV-style init configuration editor
gnome-system-tools - Cross-platform configuration utilities for GNOME
kde-guidance - collection of KDE system administration tools

I know, too many choices. I use sysv-rc-conf to set up which services are
started by default, and start and stop services manually (e.g.
#/etc/init.d/service stop) or using invoke-rc.d (from the sysv-rc package --
some of the above packages contain a 'services' command which does the same
thing). Good luck :)

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Re: No 3D option on glchess

[Chris Burkhardt]

Hashimoto wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> I see no option to enable the 3D view mode on game glchess. Actually I'm
> using Debian Lenny (Debian 4.3.2-1.1) and compiz-fusion (0.7.9).
> 
> Any idea what is the trouble ?

The 3D option was removed because of this bug:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=495234

That bug was fixed by newer versions of PyOpenGL, so I'd expect the 3D option to
reappear in future versions of Debian's glChess.

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Re: 5.0.1 MD5SUMS

[Chris Burkhardt]

Lisi Reisz wrote:
> I am clearly going either blind or mad.  In spite of spending quite some time 
> looking, I cannot find the MD5sum for 5.0.1, which I have just downloaded.  
> It surely must be there - but where is there?

On the FTP server in the same directory as the image you downloaded is a file
named MD5SUMS (and there's also SHA1SUMS). For example, this file has the sums
for all of the the i386 CD images:

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/iso-cd/MD5SUMS

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Re: virtualbox and usb devices

[Chris Burkhardt]

Micha Feigin wrote:
> I've installed virtualbox from 
> http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian
> on my debian unstable. I'm trying to connect a usb device to that machine (a
> usb camera at the moment). It appears under devices->usb devices->camera 0100
> but it is grayed out and I can't mark it.
> 
> I tried adding write permissions to /proc/bus/usb, /dev/bus/usb and /dev/*usb*
> but it doesn't seem to help.
> 
> Any idea on how to make usb work?

I recently got USB working with VirtualBox on my machine (x86 Squeeze) by
following the instructions in section 11.5.7 of the User Manual (available from
<http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads>).

My /etc/fstab file contains this line:

none/proc/bus/usb  vboxusersdevgid=127,devmode=664  00

Line 75 of my /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh (should be a single line):

domount usbfs usbdevfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs
-onodev,noexec,nosuid,devgid=127,devmode=664

(I added the devgid and devmode options; the devgid here matches the devgid in
/etc/fstab)

And make sure your user account belongs to the vboxusers group.

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Re: script: test binary program vs shell script

[Chris Burkhardt]

Kevin Ponds wrote:
>>> or something along those lines. Grepping fo "ELF" can also be useful.
>>>
> 
> Grepping for ELF is a dangerous way to do it!  If you run the script on 
> itself,
> it will think that it's a binary.

I think he meant grep'ing for 'ELF' in the output of the file command, not the
contents of the executable. Still not a cross-platform solution, though.

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Re: Suggestions for multilevel backup of single machine?

[Chris Burkhardt]

James Youngman wrote:
> [...]
> (2) It would be useful to have a historic backup capability too (e.g.
> the way the filesystem looked yesterday, last week, last month and a
> year ago), at least for filesystems like /home.
> 
> What are good solutions for doing (2)?   (Please only recommend
> software you're using yourself :)

I use rdiff-backup for incremental backups of /home:

http://www.gnu.org/savannah-checkouts/non-gnu/rdiff-backup/

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Re: Which pakage for font tscu-comic?

[Chris Burkhardt]

Thierry Chatelet wrote:
> On 8 March 2009 12:25:12 Thierry Chatelet wrote:
>> Hi list,
>> On my PC I have a font called tscu-comic. A friend of mine would like to
>> put it in is box, but I dont know which pakage installed it. Any way to
>> know? Thanks
> 
> I answer myself
> By ttial and error, ie removing fonts-pakages until tscu-comic disappeared, I 
> found it is in package tts-tamil-fonts.

For future reference, the 'apt-file' command is useful for finding out which
package a file belongs to.

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Re: disabling GDM beep?

[Chris Burkhardt]

Daryl Styrk wrote:
> Girish Kulkarni wrote:
>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Daryl Styrk wrote:
 I use Lenny on my Dell Inspiron 640m laptop.  The beep that GDM
 throws with the login screen has been a source of embarrasment in
 classrooms many times.  How do I disable it?
>>> Have a look in System>Preferences>Sound
>>
>> Doesn't help.  I disabled the system beep there (also switched off
>> all other sounds) but GDM still beeps.
>>
>> Girish.
>>
> 
> Humm.. maybe adding SoundOnLogin=false to your gdm.conf ?

Yes, I think that should do it. For a GUI way, run (as root) gdmsetup and see
the "Accessibility" tab for sound options.

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Re: Lenny stable. How to find wmsm WindowMaker applet?

[Chris Burkhardt]

Mark Goldshtein wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Chris Burkhardt  wrote:
>> Mark Goldshtein wrote:
>>>> But in the mean time I've built you a package (I'm assuming you are using 
>>>> an
>>>> i386 processor): http://mretc.net/~cris/tmp/wmsm_0.2.1-1_i386.deb
>>>>
>>>> All it installs is the single (12KB) executable to /usr/X11R6/bin/wmsm
>>>>
>>>> To install it just run, as root, 'dpkg -i wmsm_0.2.1-1_i386.deb'
>>>>
>>>> Hope that helps!
>>> Thank you!
>>> I will try your build as soon as I will reach my Debian-loaded computer!
>> Hi Mark, have you had a chance to download and try that package yet?
>>
> 
> Chris, it works!!
> 
> I have rebooted from [ offtopic here :) ] and started your applet
> right away. It works. Done. Great!
> 
> Good job, Chris! Another little user just happy :)

Excellent :)

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Re: Lenny stable. How to find wmsm WindowMaker applet?

[Chris Burkhardt]

Mark Goldshtein wrote:
>>> Would you please help me to install that little one? KPackage also
>>> gave me nothing.
>> You would first need to convert the RPM package to a deb package using alien
>> (see the package named 'alien').
>>
>> Then you would install the resulting .deb using 'dpkg -i packagename.deb'.
> 
> Thanks for the hint!
> 
> # apt-get install alien
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
[... a ton of dependencies ...]
> 
> And if I trying to install any few packages more from 'suggested'
> section, that process of never-end dependences have promise to
> 'convert' my end-user computer into developer station :)
> 
> I am just trying to install a tiny prog about 20kb in weight :) Do I
> really need 100+ megs of something I will never use to have it done :)
> ?
> Is that possible to do this "convert" operation online?
> 
> "To build, or do not to build?" :)

Wow, yeah, it's not worth installing all of that just for this program.

What you should do is file a Request For Packaging (RFP) bug against the wnpp
package. That way hopefully some developer will take the time to create an
official Debian package and upload it to the repositories. (See
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/)

But in the mean time I've built you a package (I'm assuming you are using an
i386 processor): http://mretc.net/~cris/tmp/wmsm_0.2.1-1_i386.deb

All it installs is the single (12KB) executable to /usr/X11R6/bin/wmsm

To install it just run, as root, 'dpkg -i wmsm_0.2.1-1_i386.deb'

Hope that helps!

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Re: Lenny stable. How to find wmsm WindowMaker applet?

[Chris Burkhardt]

Mark Goldshtein wrote:
>> You may try and install the RPM, it has few depends.
>> http://rpmseek.com/rpm-dl/wmsm-0.2.0-alt1.i586.html?hl=com&cbd=0:W:120:1859264:48:0:0
> 
> Thanks, for the tip! I have got one here:
> http://search.linux.kiev.ua/server/ftp.linux.kiev.ua/browse/pub/Linux/ALT/Sisyphus/files/i586/RPMS/?page=239
> 
> Their main FTP server seems to be down for the moment.
> 
> Here is a log my attempt:
> 
> # aptitude install wmsm-0.2.1-alt2.i586.rpm
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> Reading extended state information
> Initializing package states... Done
> Writing extended state information... Done
> Reading task descriptions... Done
> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched
> "wmsm-0.2.1-alt2.i586.rpm"
> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched
> "wmsm-0.2.1-alt2.i586.rpm"
> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
> Writing extended state information... Done
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> Reading extended state information
> Initializing package states... Done
> Reading task descriptions... Done
> 
> Would you please help me to install that little one? KPackage also
> gave me nothing.

You would first need to convert the RPM package to a deb package using alien
(see the package named 'alien').

Then you would install the resulting .deb using 'dpkg -i packagename.deb'.

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Re: Lenny stable. How to find wmsm WindowMaker applet?

[Chris Burkhardt]

Mark Goldshtein wrote:
> Thanks for replay!
> 
> Pardon me, but that not the same applet :)

Oh... um, then... I don't know. Sorry!

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Re: Lenny stable. How to find wmsm WindowMaker applet?

[Chris Burkhardt]

Mark Goldshtein wrote:
> Hello, list!
> 
> I am running Debian Lenny stable (fresh installed right after release
> date) and WindowMaker. Here is my sources.list:
> 
> [...]
>
> Looking for WindowMaker applets, I have not found 'wmsm' applet. This
> is nice 'all in one' information icon with CPU, memory, swap, I/O
> operations and uptime monitoring. I have used that tiny app for years
> and was very satisfied. You may take a look on that here:
> http://dockapps.org/file.php/id/208
> 
> Would you please help me to find and install one for Debian 5?

$ apt-cache search wmsm
wmsmpmon - A CPU monitoring dockapp for SMP systems

So an 'aptitude install wmsmpmon' as root should get it installed.

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Re: 515...@bugs.debian.org

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Ink Bottle wrote:
> I quite don't understand how this bug had been treated,
> or not treated.

It was determined that the bug was not in midori but in swfdec or libwebkit. So
the bug was reassigned to swfdec. It turns out the bug was actually in libwebkit
(as you noted in your last comment on the bug, and as is noted in #499452), and
that it has been fixed in the version of libwebkit in Experiemental
(libwebkit-1.0-1).

So now your bug report 515159 can be closed also :)

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Re: Any programming editor/ide with "intelisense" for c++ and fortran around?

[Chris Burkhardt]

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 09:59:35AM -0700, Chris Burkhardt wrote:
>> Micha Feigin wrote:
>>> I'm trying to find if there is a proper programming editor with 
>>> "intelisense"
>>> like behavior (the only thing I miss about visual studio) that supports both
>>> fortran and c++, or at least c++.
>> Look at Vim 7's Omni-completion feature.
>> http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/help?tag=new-omni-completion
> 
> On my 7.1 it works for a number of languages (C, PHP, Ruby, HTML, CSS,
> SQL, XML) but not for C++. 
> 
> Does it work for C++ in later versions?

Oh, I forgot, you want to use the OmniCppComplete plugin to get C++ support:

http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1520

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Re: Any programming editor/ide with "intelisense" for c++ and fortran around?

[Chris Burkhardt]

Micha Feigin wrote:
> I'm trying to find if there is a proper programming editor with "intelisense"
> like behavior (the only thing I miss about visual studio) that supports both
> fortran and c++, or at least c++.

Look at Vim 7's Omni-completion feature.
http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/help?tag=new-omni-completion

For emacs look at the CEDET tools:
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/HowSemanticFulfillsThoseNeeds
http://cedet.sourceforge.net/

I'm not sure to what extent Fortran is supported by either, but they both handle
C++ at least.

(Unfortunately sourceforge.net seems to be down at the moment.)

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Re: request to try something with midori

[Chris Burkhardt]

Ink Bottle wrote:
> Thank you very much for your help :)
> I found exactly the same results.
> So now, though it's not a solution, we have
> a very reproducible problem. And even different
> cases where it behave the same or not the same.
> Since you English is far much better than mine
> maybe you could add the last few lines of this post
> to the bug report.

I recompiled swfdec-mozilla with debugging symbols and sent a backtrace to your
bug report. The problem is somewhere with swfdec-mozilla or libwebkit, because
epiphany-webkit with swfdec has the same issue.

> (Sometimes I realy feel what I say wont be understood
> at all)

Sometimes I feel the same way... and I'm a native English speaker :)

So now hopefully someone with good debugging skills notices the bug report and
figures it out.

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Re: Replacement for Dillo web browser

[Chris Burkhardt]

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 07:25:50PM -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote:
>> Is there a light-weight browser that does not have a huge list of  
>> dependencies?
>>
>> I had been using dillo for things like reading html documentation and  
>> other light-weight tasks, but then I upgraded to Lenny.  Dillo is not  
>> available in Lenny.  It is still in Etch and in Sid, but not Lenny.

I bet the sid dillo package would work fine for you.

links2 does a decent job rendering HTML as text, which is good enough for
documentation and other light-weight tasks.

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Re: test for package dependencies without installing

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Paul Yeatman wrote:
[...]
>> There is a note in the man page about putting the --no-act flag before the 
>> action:
>>
>> $ sudo dpkg --no-act -i texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb
>>
>> Does that make it behave as expected?
> 
> I wish but sadly no:
> 
> $ sudo dpkg --no-act -i texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb
> Selecting previously deselected package texlive-base.
> (Reading database ... 150341 files and directories currently installed.)
> Unpacking texlive-base (from texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb) ...
> pyeat...@pyeatman:~$ 
> 
> ...but I didn't catch that so thanks for pointing out!

Hmm. Take a look at this bug (especially message #19):


I guess a workaround for your script is to parse the 'Depends:' line from
dpkg -I and test if each of those packages are installed.

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Re: request to try something with midori

[Chris Burkhardt]

Ink Bottle wrote:
>> have the following
>> packages installed:
>>
>> midori 0.1.2-1
>> mozilla-plugin-gnash 0.8.3-6
>> swfdec-mozilla 0.6.0-4
> 
> apt-cache policy midori mozilla-plugin-gnash swfdec-mozilla 
> flashplayer-mozilla
> midori:
>   Installed: 0.1.2-1
>   Candidate: 0.1.2-1
> mozilla-plugin-gnash:
>   Installed: 0.8.4-2
>   Candidate: 0.8.4-2
>   Version table:
> swfdec-mozilla:
>   Installed: 0.8.2-1
>   Candidate: 0.8.2-1
>   Version table:
> flashplayer-mozilla:
>   Installed: (none)
>   Candidate: 1:10.0.15.3-0.1

I've upgraded my mozilla-plugin-gnash. Now we each have identical versions of
all these packages.

>> In your bug report you mention "swfdec-mozilla
>> 0.8.2-1" which is only in Sid. If
> At the time when I've done the installation of midori
> there were no midori package in Lenny !!
> (so the sid version is the only available at now)

Oh you are right! My mistake.

[...]
> So for the moment it doesn't seg_fault (with gnash)
> It doesn't very well play the google-youtube video neither,
> but that's an other problem
> 
> The problem, both with swfdec-mozilla and flashplayer-mozilla,
> was (repeat) when changing the video or trying to play the "small"
> video.
> It was appening both with google-youtube or any other
> site.

I still have no problems whether flash-mozilla.so is configured to point to
gnash or swfdec. I can play the small videos and repeat any video.


Okay, I kept messing around before I sent the above, and I can now reproduce
your segfaults. I had the adobe flash plugin installed (from the Adobe website)
for Firefox, and it seems that even though I set the flash-mozilla alternative
to swfdec/gnash it was still finding that. I moved my ~/.mozilla directory out
of the way, and now I get the segfault with swfdec when I click a small video
from the google page just like you. Gnash doesn't crash -- but it doesn't play
any of the videos either.

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Re: [OT] Name of new testing?

[Chris Burkhardt]

Thierry Chatelet wrote:
> Does any one know the name after Lenny?

Squeeze


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Re: rc.local is not executed

[Chris Burkhardt]

Mike McClain wrote:
> So my questions to you who have an installed /etc/rc.local are which
> package did it come from and how does it get executed?

/etc/init.d/rc.local is included with the initscripts package, and it executes
/etc/rc.local if it exists.

/etc/init.d/rc.local is symlinked to the appropriate /etc/rcX.d/ directory
(where X is the runlevel) and is executed when entering that runlevel.

This is the case in Lenny and -- I think -- in Etch. I don't know about before 
that.

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Re: request to try something with midori

[Chris Burkhardt]

Chris Burkhardt wrote:
> In your bug report you mention "swfdec-mozilla 0.8.2-1" which is only in Sid. 
> If
> you are using that with the Lenny version of midori, that might be the cause 
> of
> your segfaults.

Well nevermind, because you said you were getting the segfaults with the
non-free flash plugin. What version of that do you have installed?

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Re: test for package dependencies without installing

[Chris Burkhardt]

Paul Yeatman wrote:
> Hi, I'm wondering if there is a command I can run on a debian package that 
> would test for whether all dependencies of that package are already installed 
> on the system without actually installing the package if so.  This mailing 
> list thread http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/09/msg00292.html is on 
> the exact topic and many suggestions are thrown out but none of which I can 
> prove true.
> 
> So, let's say I want to install texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb.
> 
> $ dpkg -I texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb | grep Depend
>  Depends: texlive-doc-base (>= 2007), texlive-base-bin (>= 2007-13), 
> texlive-common (>= 2007)
> 
> I don't have any of these dependency packages installed
> 
> $ sudo dpkg -i texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb 
> (Reading database ... 138033 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to replace texlive-base 2007.dfsg.1-2 (using 
> texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb) ...
> Unpacking replacement texlive-base ...
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of texlive-base:
>  texlive-base depends on texlive-doc-base (>= 2007); however:
>   Package texlive-doc-base is not installed.
>  texlive-base depends on texlive-base-bin (>= 2007-13); however:
>   Package texlive-base-bin is not installed.
>  texlive-base depends on texlive-common (>= 2007); however:
>   Package texlive-common is not installed.
> dpkg: error processing texlive-base (--install):
>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  texlive-base
> 
> Is there a script-friendly way to determine this before attempting to 
> install?  dpkg man page suggests that "--no-act, --dry-run, --simulate" 
> should do this yet 
> 
> $ sudo dpkg -i --no-act texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb (Reading database 
> ... 138033 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to replace texlive-base 2007.dfsg.1-2 (using 
> texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb) ...
> $ echo $?
> 0
> 
> tells me nothing about lacking dependencies.

There is a note in the man page about putting the --no-act flag before the 
action:

$ sudo dpkg --no-act -i texlive-base_2007.dfsg.1-2_all.deb

Does that make it behave as expected?

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Re: request to try something with midori

[Chris Burkhardt]

Ink Bottle wrote:
>> Do you know a way to change where midori looks for its
>> plugins?
> yes
> update-alternatives --config flash-mozilla.so

Thanks. I switched it to /usr/lib/swfdec-mozilla/libswfdecmozilla.so and tried
again -- and that also played the videos fine! Maybe even better.

So let's try to figure out where our systems differ. I have the following
packages installed:

midori 0.1.2-1
mozilla-plugin-gnash 0.8.3-6
swfdec-mozilla 0.6.0-4

In your bug report you mention "swfdec-mozilla 0.8.2-1" which is only in Sid. If
you are using that with the Lenny version of midori, that might be the cause of
your segfaults.

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Re: request to try something with midori

[Chris Burkhardt]

Ink Bottle wrote:
> Hi,
> can you try something?
> start midori www.google.com; 
> then click on video; 
> wait; 
> don't click to start the "large" video (it would work); 
> instead of it click on a small one
> 
> Is it all right for you?

Yes, I can play the small videos on that page fine. I'm using midori 0.1.2 (from
Lenny).

However I think midori is set to use /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flash-mozilla.so
as its flash plugin, which on my computer points to
/usr/lib/gnash/libgnashplugin.so. So maybe your segfault only happens with the
adobe plugin? Try Gnash and see if that fixes it.

Do you know a way to change where midori looks for its plugins?

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Re: openoffice.org 3.0.1 and "--instdir" option

[Chris Burkhardt]

H.S. wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I wanted to try out OOo 3.0.1 on Debian Lenny. From this web page:
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Administration_Guide/Linux
> 
> looks like all I have to do is:
> $> dpkg -i *.deb
> 
> to the downloaded deb file to get the installation in /opt.
> 
> Now, the web page also says that to change the location of the
> installation, I need to use "--instdir" (there is a typo on that web
> page though). So, I think I need to use:
> $> dpkg -i --installdir=/usr/local/opt *.deb

Yes, I think that is correct.

> to get the installation in /usr/local/opt. Or am I supposed to use
> --instdir=/usr/local ?
> 
> The downloaded deb files all contain files starting with "./opt/" in
> their contents. Example:
> $> dpkg -c openoffice.org3-writer_3.0.1-15_i386.deb
> drwxrwxr-x root/root  0 2009-01-09 09:40 ./
> drwxr-xr-x root/root  0 2009-01-09 09:40 ./opt/
> drwxr-xr-x root/root  0 2009-01-09 09:40 ./opt/openoffice.org3/
> drwxr-xr-x root/root  0 2009-01-09 09:40 ./opt/openoffice.org3/program/
> -r-xr-xr-x root/root 63 2009-01-09 09:40
> ./opt/openoffice.org3/program/swriter

I've never used the --installdir directive, but my interpretation of the
man page is that you should set it to /usr/local (by default it is set
to /). That will then cause dpkg to install everything in
/usr/local/opt/ like you want.

> Also, man page of dpkg mentions "--root" option. What is the difference
> between "--instdir" and "--root"? Is "--root" set to "." in the debs
> of OOo that I listed above?

--root changes both --installdir and --admindir. You don't want to do
that.

>From man dpkg:

--admindir=dir
Change default administrative directory, which contains
many files that give information about status of installed or
uninstalled packages, etc.  (Defaults to /var/lib/dpkg)

--instdir=dir
Change  default  installation  directory  which  refers  to  the
directory  where packages are to be installed. instdir is also the
directory passed to chroot(2) before  running  packages  installation
scripts, which means that the scripts see instdir as a root directory.
(Defaults to /)

--root=dir
Changing root changes instdir to dir and admindir to dir/var/lib/dpkg.

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Re: php5 gd imagerotate() function

[Chris Burkhardt]

Joey L wrote:
> To All:
> 
> I am getting this error on my site:
> *Fatal error*: Call to undefined function imagerotate() in
> */var/www/html/websites
> 
> 
> *I was told that i need the imagerotate() function to be enabled in the
> pre-packaged gd package that i installed.
> 
> I found this link in google :
> http://digitalconsumption.com/forum/622-PHP-imagerotate-on-Debian
> 
> With these steps on how to do it :
> 
> apt-get source libapache2-mod-php5
> apt-get build-dep libapache2-mod-php5
> cd php5-5.2.0/
> sed -i 's/-with-gd=share,\/usr/-with-gd/' debian/rules
> debian/rules binary
> dpkg -i libapache2-mod-php5_5.2.0-7_amd64.deb
> 
> 
> 
> 
> But when i get to this step :
> 
>  apt-get build-dep libapache2-mod-php5
> 
> I get the following error:
> 
> Failed to fetch cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r0 _Etch_ - Official amd64
> DVD Binary-1
> 20070407-12:15]/pool/main/libm/libmcrypt/libmcrypt4_2.5.7-5_amd64.deb 
> MD5Sum mismatch

I don't know why there is an md5 mismatch. Do you have an internet connection so
you can fetch packages from the net instead of the DVD? If so, try commenting
out the CD sources in /etc/apt/sources.list, run apt-get update, and then try 
again.


> [...]

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Re: Retrieving a bios updater from ibm.com

[Chris Burkhardt]

Andrew Malcolmson wrote:
> Peter, how will you run it?  Do you have a Windows dual-boot on this
> machine?
> 
> I just wiped out the Vista partition on my T61 by attempting a resize
> with gparted (Vista's own reisize feature wouldn't resize more than a
> few GB and no amount of fiddling with settings changed this).  Therefore
>   I'd like to know how BIOS updates can be done under Linux alone.

The one update I've done (from Lenovo) came as a bootable ISO image. Just burn
it to a CD, boot up from it, and run the BIOS update.

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Re: Retrieving a bios updater from ibm.com

[Chris Burkhardt]

Peter Crawford wrote:
> Does anyone have a clever way to retrieve file 
> spsdks45.exe which has a link on this page?
> 
> http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-4MCKB8.html
> 
> Iceweasel in Lenny is here.
> After I agree to the conditions of use, 
> transfer appears to happen but no record 
> is left of the file.

Iceweasel downloaded it fine for me (I didn't have to agree to anything). You
could try using wget from the command line:

wget ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/pc/pccbbs/mobiles/spsdks45.exe

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Re: emacs-cvs (23) thru aptitude

[Chris Burkhardt]

Harry Putnam wrote:
> I just started working with debian recently, I'm a long time gentoo
> user. 
> 
> I want to install the latest cvs emacs but do not see it in an
> aptitude search.

See Romain Francoise's emacs-snapshot repository: http://emacs.orebokech.com/

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Re: rhythmbox questions

[Chris Burkhardt]

lostson wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 18:31 -0700, Chris Burkhardt wrote:
>   
>> lostson wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello
>>>  I am using Lenny and have noticed when starting rhythmbox that most of
>>> the plugins fail to load. For instance cover art, jamendo and Magnatune
>>> pop up windows that say unable to activate plugin. I have looked for a
>>> package maybe i missed with via synaptic but havent found anything. Is
>>> there something I have missed perhaps, thanks.
>>>   
>> I don't experience those issues. If you haven't already, you might want to 
>> try
>> to purge the rhythmbox package and then reinstall it.
>>
>> - Chris
>>
>>
>> 
>  I just did a fresh install today and I still suffer from the same issue
> so not sure if that would help.
>   

Searching google for: 'rhythmbox "unable to activate plugin"' turns up
several people who say installing the following two packages fixed the
problem:

libgnomevfs2-extra
python-gst

I do have both of those installed already, which would explain why I
haven't seen the plugin errors.

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Re: rhythmbox questions

[Chris Burkhardt]

lostson wrote:
> Hello
>  I am using Lenny and have noticed when starting rhythmbox that most of
> the plugins fail to load. For instance cover art, jamendo and Magnatune
> pop up windows that say unable to activate plugin. I have looked for a
> package maybe i missed with via synaptic but havent found anything. Is
> there something I have missed perhaps, thanks.

I don't experience those issues. If you haven't already, you might want to try
to purge the rhythmbox package and then reinstall it.

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Re: Alternative to network-manager

[Chris Burkhardt]

Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> I know network-manager often does more bad than good, so I would
> like to avoid using it.
> 
> However, while it is perfectly OK to edit one or two configuration
> files to set-up wireless networking (or even cabled one, if DHCP is not
> used) if the computer will always connect to the same network, this is
> not practical for a laptop that will be used in several places and
> connecting to several networks, which can't even be known in advance.
> Especially if the user is not the most experience linux user.
> 
> So, is there any other graphical tool that allows for easy set-up of
> networking (especially wireless), listing networks in reach and allowing
> automatic connection to them?

wpa_supplicant (http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/) includes the wpa_gui
frontend.

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Re: How to uninstall a tar.gz package?

[Chris Burkhardt]

tôba wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:31:13 +
> Rodolfo Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> I have auctex 11.84 installed via tar.gz package, and want now to
>> have the cvs version.
>>
>> Can anybody please suggest all the steps so to completely remove the
>> old one? 
> 
> If it has the "make unistall" capability, I think it will be easy to
> remove.
> Otherwise, I think you have to read the original Makefile file and
> remove installed files one by one.

If it doesn't have an uninstall script or target, try 'make -n install >
install_log.txt' to get a list of all the files it installs and remove them.

In the future use checkinstall or stow or something to manager your source
installs :)

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electoral college

[Chris Burkhardt]

Clearing up some of my misinformation about the electoral college:

"Electors chosen on Election Day meet in their respective state capitals (or in
the case of Washington, D.C., within the District) on the Monday after the
second Wednesday in December, at which time they cast their electoral votes on
separate ballots for President and Vice President. In 2008, that meeting will be
on December 15."

"Each state is allocated as many electors as it has Representatives and Senators
in the United States Congress."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_(United_States)#Apportionment_of_electors

The number of representatives:

"Under Article I, Section 2 of the Constitution, seats in the House of
Representatives are apportioned among the states by population, as determined by
the census conducted every ten years. Each state, however, is entitled to at
least one Representative.

"The only constitutional rule relating to the size of the House says: 'The
Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand.'
Congress has regularly increased the size of the House to account for population
growth; but Congress fixed the number of voting House members at 435 in 1911."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives#Membership_and_qualifications
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_congressional_apportionment


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Re: how to execute a command as another user in one command?

[Chris Burkhardt]

Star Liu wrote:
> currently i'm the root user, but I need to execute a command as
> another user named postgres, I can do it in 2 commands, and it works
> fine.
> ---
> su postgres
> postgres -D ~/data > ~/log/logfile 2>&1 &
> ---
> but i hope I can do it in one command, so I tried this
> ---
> su -c "postgres -D ~/data > ~/log/logfile 2>&1 &" postgres

What error does that give?

> 
> but it doesn't work. what's wrong with it? or any other command to
> realize it? thanks

The sudo command is an alternative that comes to mind.

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Re: Hunting a Math Application

[Chris Burkhardt]

Zhan wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:36:00 +0800, Wu, Kejia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Is there some open source application with functions as Matlab on linux?
>>
>> I feel very grateful to any suggestion.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Kejia
>>
>>
> 
> I would give octave, scilab and freemat each a try and then decide which
> is the best for myself.
> 
> Someone also claims python (well, some python packages are quite
> powerful) can fullfill their
> computational need.

For Python:
SymPy: http://code.google.com/p/sympy/
NumPy: http://numpy.scipy.org/

Other lists:
http://www.usna.edu/Users/math/wdj/opensource_math.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_numerical_analysis_software

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Re: Changelog broken on Lenny?

[Chris Burkhardt]

Stackpole, Chris wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I noticed that I had some updates on my Lenny box so double clicked the
> package manager icon in the gnome task bar. As I browsed through the
> packages I noticed that there were no change logs showing up. So I
> visited the site: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main
> 
>  
> 
> Sure enough, all of the folders are empty. I have not seen or heard
> anything about the changelog being down and I didn’t find anything with
> a quick google search, so I thought I would ask the list. Anyone know
> what’s going on? Is this planned? Any idea when it will be up again?

They all seem to be back in place now.

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Re: Non-Debian Provided Packages

[Chris Burkhardt]

Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
>> Jason C. Wells wrote:
>>  
>>> Is it advisable to install non-Debian provided packages?
>>> For example .deb files are out for openoffice3 but they haven't made
>>> their way to lenny yet.  It seems like the Sun provided .deb files
>>> aren't quite so slick with handling dependencies.  That or I am
>>> missing some important bit of understanding on how .debs work.
>>> 
>> Generally, not advisable.  OOo3 is in experimental right now if you're
>> looking for the Debian package for that.
>>   
> While I love apt for most things, I've installed lots of non-debian
> packages, using the basic configure; make; make install approach.  For
> many packages, that's the only way to get the latest version.  I've yet
> to get Sympa to work from its .deb, for example.

If you go that route, I'd suggest something like stow to keep everything tidy
and easy to uninstall:

http://www.gnu.org/software/stow/

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Re: stupid nautilus question

[Chris Burkhardt]

Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> Here is a stupid nautilus question:
> 
> you can open (in browser mode) nautilus and start typing,
> say, /usr/share/doc and a small window opens on the bottom right with
> your paty you are typing.  However, it never brings you to the location
> when you hit enter, at lesast on my box.  IIRC this used to work and it
> worked in XFCE.  I stoped using XFCE due to massive memory leaking.
> 
> How do you get that function working and if it does not work, what is
> the typing supposed to be for?  It is much faster to typ /path then to
> use the point and click navigation.  Don't make me go to KDE!

I don't use Nautilus, but in many programs typing a forward slash (/) opens a
quick find box allowing you to search the contents of the window. It sounds like
that's what you've described.

Doesn't Nautilus have a location bar you can type paths into?

- Chris Burkhardt


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Installing fonts in Lenny (use defoma?)

[Chris Burkhardt]

I'm wondering about the most correct way to install a TrueType font in
Lenny. What I did:

Downloaded http://hiran.in/content/fonts/rufscript/Rufscript010.ttf
Moved rufscript010.ttf into ~/.fonts/
Ran 'fc-cache ~/.fonts/'

And now I can use the font from all of my fontconfig-aware apps (all the
important ones: iceweasel, gvim, etc). Yay!

But then I thought I should register it with defoma, being the Debian
way, and maybe so any non-fontconfig programs could find it. Read lots
of man and doc pages, then ran into Bug #285653
(http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=285653) which is
almost 4 years old.

Does anybody know of any good guides to installing fonts in Debian?

- Chris Burkhardt


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Re: No changelogs for all 50+ package updates

[Chris Burkhardt]

Slim Joe wrote:
> For the past four or five days I cannot see or download
> the changelogs for any of the packages which the
> Gnome Update Manager is supposed to install. A check
> with synaptic confirms the problem. When I choose
> \Package\Download_Changelog I get an error like:
> 
> Failed to fetch the changelog for [*]
> URI was: http://packages.debian.org/[*]/changelog
> 
> Pasting the "changelog" URL into a browser leads to a
> "404 Not Found" error. Is this a known problem? Or is
> it just a problem with my apt setup.
> 
> apt 0.7.14+b1
> apt-utils 0.7.14+b1
> aptitude 0.4.11.8-1
> python-apt 0.7.7.1
> synaptic 0.62.1

I'm experiencing the same thing (see also the recent post here with subject
"Changelog broken on Lenny?"). I read a slashdot comment complaining about it
too. I haven't heard what the problem is yet.

- Chris


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Re: About apt-file

[Chris Burkhardt]

lStephen Liu wrote:
> Hi Johannes,
> 
> 
> Thanks for your advice.  I got it done.
> 
> 
> Now;
> 
> $ apt-file list mysqladmin
> $ apt-file show mysqladmin
> Both without printout

That is expected: there is no package named 'mysqladmin' (list/show lists the
contents of a package).

> 
> 
> $ apt-file search mysqladmin
> [...]
> mysql-client-5.0: usr/bin/mysqladmin
> [...]

There it is, in the mysql-client-5.0 package. If you want to narrow your search
down in the future, try something like 'apt-file search bin/mysqladmin' to find
only files in a 'bin' directory, for example.

> $ apt-file find mysqladmin
> [...]
> 
> 
> Both outputs are similar.

Yes, search and find are aliases; they do the same thing.

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Re: About apt-file

[Chris Burkhardt]

Stephen Liu wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> 
> Etch
> 
> 
> Reading man apt-file I can't resolve what flag to be up to find a
> package which provides a named tool/command.
> 
> e.g. mysqladmin coming form mysql-server

apt-file search mysqladmin

apt-file search `which commandname`

but that might not be what you're asking for...

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Re: Consultation on Linux for CD

[Chris Burkhardt]

consultores1 wrote:
> On Sat, 2008-09-27 at 22:53 -0600, Chris Burkhardt wrote:
>> Felipe Gallois wrote:
>>> the signature =]
>> ... which I think is actually an ad appended by hotmail. But, yes, that's 
>> what I
>>  based it on. I hope it wasn't too presumptive :)
>>
>> - Chris B
> 
> Yes, it was; he speaks Brazilian!

You are the second person to say that. And almost every time I say something
like "I hope it's not too presumptive"... it is.

Still, the text at the bottom of the OP's messsage looks like Spanish to me, it
links to the es-ar (Spanish, Argentina) localization of the Microsoft page, and
seems to have been sent from an Argentinian ISP.

But I guess it's possible that a Brazilian could send an email while in
Argentina. It's probably been done before.

Anyway, we've got a list for that too!

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-portuguese/

- Chris B


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Re: Consultation on Linux for CD

[Chris Burkhardt]

Felipe Gallois wrote:
> the signature =]

... which I think is actually an ad appended by hotmail. But, yes, that's what I
 based it on. I hope it wasn't too presumptive :)

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Re: Consultation on Linux for CD

[Chris Burkhardt]

mauricio fernando gallo wrote:
>  By this i am addressing you on request information on Linux.
>  I download the version "livecd" page and record directly in the CD, you
> can start my computer for the same. Once recorded, restart my machine
> and you are incie by the compactera. Which had no positive outcome,
> start with Windows and not with Linux.
>  Do you may indicate as to start with Linux? do i made some step wrong?
>  Of course thank you

The Debian-User-Spanish list might be a good resource:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/

- Chris


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Re: DirectFB and X.

[Chris Burkhardt]

PETER EASTHOPE wrote:
> Folk,
> 
> Thanks for the advice about CD burning.
> 
> According to the Wikipedia,
> "The [DirectFB] library allows developers to bypass 
>  the X Window System, ... ."
> 
> In Lenny, can DirectFB replace the X infrastructure?

It would require all of the graphical (non console) programs you use to support
DirectFB. There are DFB backends for gtk, SDL, wxWidgets, and there was at one
point an early port of qt, but I don't know the status of that.

So you could probably get most of your day-to-day programs running without an X
server... but I don't think Lenny has packages built with DFB support, so you'd
have to build them yourself.

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Re: reply-to-list for icedove? was Re: [OT] was Re: diff display

[Chris Burkhardt]

Ron Johnson wrote:
 > This works for me:
> http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/replytolist-0.2.1.xpi
> 
> v0.3.0 fails, since I use IMAP.
> 
> I think that you need to install the Mnenhy add-on.

Yes, downgrading to 0.2.1 works for me also. I don't think Icedove needs Mnenhy
(but stock Thunderbird 2.x builds do).

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Re: [OT] was Re: diff display

[Chris Burkhardt]

Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 09/11/08 12:19, Jeff Soules wrote:
>> Dismissing most of this because it's little more than an expression of
>> the author's prejudice, but...
>>
>>> We don't like the EU because
>>> of their complete disregard for individual rights. It was conceived
>>> of and
>>> implemented by socialists. It's that simple.
>>
>> Socialists?
>> You mean the kind of people who would devote massive amounts of their
>> free time, with no expectation of compensation, to building and
>> distributing a totally free operating system, purely because they
>> believe it would be beneficial to society?  And who put in place legal
>> safeguards to ensure that it would protect the rights of its
>> contributors by remaining forever free, and the rights of its users by
>> remaining forever modifiable?
> 
> Except... that's not what a Socialist (one who follows/believes in
> Socialism) is.
> 
> Modern Socialism has more to do with heavy state involvement in the
> economy, protection of local industry and wealth transfer from the Haves
> to the Have Nots.

I understand that state-sponsored social programs in the US get the label
"Socialism", but "Modern" is not a very good adjective for distinguishing
socialist ideas. I identify strongly as a Socialist, but my socialism is the
libertian socialism of projects like Debian (as Jeff described it).

The Anarchist FAQ tends to explain Libertarian Socialism well:
http://www.infoshop.org/faq/index.html

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Re: Way OT: OpenDNS

[Chris Burkhardt]

> Are there any known problems / gotchas with OpenDNS? I do know that
> they redirect google queries through their own servers and return ads
> in place of unregistered domains, but those 'features' can be turned
> off. Anything else that I should be aware of?

I don't know of any problems with OpenDNS (besides what you mentioned). I use it
with all the features turned off. But I run a caching nameserver on my home
server (tinydns) which the rest of the computers on the LAN use, so lookups only
have to go out to OpenDNS when something isn't already cached.

But a better DNS server will only speed up your initial name resolution, of
course. It won't help with your general network sluggishness.

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Re: Remote administration of a machine behind NAT

[Chris Burkhardt]

On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 17:14:23 -0500
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 09/08/08 17:03, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > On Mon,08.Sep.08, 16:52:52, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> >> Port forwarding?  Or is the NAT at the ISP level, which would prevent
> >> this?
> > 
> > Of course...
> 
> Of course the NAT at the ISP level?

I've never heard of NAT at the ISP level. Are there really so few unallocated
IPv4 addresses that this is necessary?

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Re: College Wifi - Problems with .pl file

[Chris Burkhardt]

On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:27:39 +0200
Tim Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I don't think it's a problem with firefox, it looks like a screwed-up 
> webserver which, judging by your earlier emails in this thread, you 
> don't have much hope of getting fixed.

Although he said it does work on an iPod Touch, Windows machine, and a 
Macbook...
that's quite a few of browsers. It's hard to believe that Firefox and IE under 
linux
are the only unforgiving browsers for this misconfigured server. But it could
be.

> I'd try http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/installation.html first to 
> verify that it is the content-type header that's wrong

Good idea. Use livehttpheaders (or wireshark or something) to see what's
really transpiring between your computer and the server.

> and then https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3207 to workaround
> the problem by forcing firefox to see the content-type to text/html

Hey, that's a useful plugin to know about. Thanks.

- Chris Burkhardt

> 
> Mike Pobega wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:50 AM, Tim Edwards 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> > 
> > So what is actually in the login.pl file that your college's
> > webserver sends to firefox? Is it perl code (presumably their actual
> > login script)? Or is it HTML? or is it blank?
> > 
> > I have heard a rumour that if the webserver doesn't send the right
> > Content-type header (eg. Content-type: text/html) IE will just
> > assume it's text/html and will display the page as normal. Whereas
> > firefox will  decide it doesn't know what the data is (could be
> > binary or anything) and consider it to be a file to download. But
> > that is only a vague idea I have - no idea if it's even close to
> > correct.
> > 
> > Tim
> > 
> > 
> > No, actually, that sounds about right. Oh, and as for the file...
> > 
> > Firefox says "Download login.pl?". Half the time it downloads home.html, 
> > and half the time it downloads login.pl, both files blank as /dev/null. 
> > I guess it's a problem with Firefox, then?
> > 
> 
> 


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Re: College Wifi - Problems with .pl file

[Chris Burkhardt]

Mike Pobega wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Chris Burkhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
> Mike Pobega wrote:
> > So it's a problem on my college's end and not mine?
>
> That's what it sounds like. Can use someone else's computer and
> see if you can
> connect from Windows?
>
> - Chris
>
>
> Not only does Windows work, but so does my friend's iPod touch, and my
> other friend's Macbook.
Hmm. Then it sure seems to be something on your end. I can't think of
any suggestions just now, but I'm copying this back to the list in case
anybody else can.

- Chris


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Re: College Wifi - Problems with .pl file

[Chris Burkhardt]

Mike Pobega wrote:
> So it's a problem on my college's end and not mine?

That's what it sounds like. Can use someone else's computer and see if you can
connect from Windows?

- Chris


> 
> On 9/3/08, *Steve Lamb* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 06:58:24PM -0400, Mike Pobega wrote:
> > I am desperately trying to fix this, but I have no clue what to do
> and my
> > college technology office is a joke.
> 
>Well, that much is obvious.  They're the ones that have to fix this.
> Their server is sending you login.pl instead of running it;
> presuming it is
> supposed to be a CGI.
> 
> --
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> I'm your
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Re: Do Debian's users care about the AGPL?

[Chris Burkhardt]

>>> Yes, that's the spirit of Free software that the GPL and AGPL tries to
>>> enforce.
>> AGPL, yes, which is where it oversteps the bounds.  The GPL no.  If the
>> GPL did it there would be no need for the AGPL.  And sorry, but when I 
>> program
>> a custom application on my machine for my use and you, in visiting my home 
>> sit
>> down and use that application on my computer does not mean you're a user of
>> it.  My machine, my application, my code, not distributed, period.  The 
>> moment
>> that distinction is lost is the moment my code will probably migrate to a
>> "less free" license because it is running roughshod over my freedoms as a
>> developer.
> 
> Understandable. Fortunately, the AGPL uses the wording "remotely through a
> computer network (if your version supports such interaction)," which implies
> that you have intentionally made access to your custom application possible 
> over
> the network. It doesn't require you to do anything in the case of me entering
> your home and using your program on your development machine.

I just realized that the "remotely through a computer network" doesn't pertain
to any situation where the user is sitting in front of the machine (like slot
machines and ATMs). So that renders many of our examples moot. Hopefully that
makes you feel a little better about the scope of the AGPL.

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Re: Do Debian's users care about the AGPL?

[Chris Burkhardt]

e services will benefit from those improvements. What
do you think will happen?

But again, I don't advocate that every program that can be run remotely be
licensed by the AGPL. Leave it to the original developer's discretions based on
the applications of the program. But recognize it as a viable option for
programs included in a Free operating system.

>> There is nothing non-Free or
>> against the DFSG about that.
> 
> Yes, there is.  It oversteps the bounds of the developers and the true
> users of the software to extend protections to the users of the service.

Again, it depends on who you think the "true" users are. I guess that's all our
disagreement comes down to: I like that the AGPl extends rights to users of the
service; you don't. You probably won't base any projects on AGPL code; I might.
It should be an option for Debian software.

> [...]

(Everything else you wrote was clear, and highlighted the differences in our
opinion over who the users of the software is. I think it's the person logging
into Google and sitting in front of the slot machine; you think it is Google and
the casino.)

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Re: Do Debian's users care about the AGPL?

[Chris Burkhardt]

Hi Steve. This is the first of your emails in this thread that I've seen
make it to the list. Have you and Daniel been conversing off list, or is
something wrong on my end? (I've seen several of Daniel's replies to
you, but none of your emails.)

Steve Lamb wrote:
> [...]
> Lets take a simple example, Google's web-based spreadsheet.  Who is
> using the software, you or Google?  Answer: Google.

Your idea of "user" is strange to me.

> [...]
> Really?  So the fact that you're provided access to a custom
> application means you're a user and thus must have rights to the
> source code?

Yes, that's the spirit of Free software that the GPL and AGPL tries to
enforce.

> You do realize how much software you're provided access to but aren't
> the user?  Let me think off the top of my head of software which
> customers of mine have had access to which fall under your overly
> broad interpretation of user in the quest for the holy grail of
> restricting other people's uses to your narrow definition.
> 
> Room reseveration software.  ATM software.  Slot machine software
> (Btw, you do realize most slots nowadays are computers, right?).
> Patron management software (better known as point systems).
> Point-of-sale terminals and, by extension, their servers.  In-room
> entertainment software.  Did I miss any portion of a casino that
> the customer doesn't touch?

I don't think anyone is suggesting that casinos should use AGPL licensed
software on their slot machines (it would probably make gaming the
random number generators and so forth too easy). But if a casino for
some reason DID use a modified form of AGPL licensed software on a slot
machine, then yes, the source should be available to any users of that
machine under the terms of the AGPL. There is nothing non-Free or
against the DFSG about that.

Remember, the GNU GPL and AGPL are aimed at protecting the freedom of
*users*, not of vendors.

> It boils down to this.  The casino (and hotel) is using that
> software to provide a service to the customer.  The customer is
> not the user of the software even though they do "use" it.

Again, that's a non-intuitive definition of "user". In context of the
AGPL, the user is the person interacting with the software over a network,
not the entity responsible for running the software. Here's an excerpt
from Section 13 of the AGPL:

"Notwithstanding any other provision of this License, if you modify the
Program, your modified version must prominently offer all users
interacting with it remotely through a computer network (if your version
supports such interaction) an opportunity to receive the Corresponding
Source of your version by providing access to the Corresponding Source
from a network server at no charge, through some standard or customary
means of facilitating copying of software."

> If you close this "loophole" for ASPs then you are, by fiat, also
> demanding that any time you use an ATM machine you are using the
> software thus have a right to the source code of said software.  If
> you don't see how that could cause some serious problems for the
> adoption of OS tools to be used to build those custom applications
> then you really don't understand what's going on nor the motivactions
> of why people chose the solutions they do outside of your narrow
> mindset.

I understand why some people wouldn't want to participate in the Free
software movement (less profit to be found here). But I disagree that it
would be bad for society if the source to things like ATMs were open and
verifiable.

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Re: Do Debian's users care about the AGPL?

[Chris Burkhardt]

> I care. The AGPL is dangerous to Opensource. It is too aggressive and
> too restrictive. As Opensource becomes more dominant,
> software-as-a-service (SAAS) will become the primary way for people to
> make money through software. The AGPL threatens to cut off Opensource
> from its primary means of acquiring income and maintaining relevance.

How does requiring source code be available do anything to hurt the open source
movement? I'm pretty sure software-as-a-service doesn't mean "proprietary
enhancements to open source software that we don't want to contribute back to
the community for competitive/business reasons".

> I am in favor of Opensource because it allows me to be free and to make
> money, but if Opensource prohibited me from making money, I'd be against
> it.

If you can only make money when you aren't required to make any changes to the
source available, how can you claim to be participating in Opensource?

The whole goal of the GPL was to prevent companies from taking other people's
code, enhancing it, then profiting without sharing those enhancements. The loop
hole in that are things like web services where the binary isn't actually
distributed. The AGPL closes that loop hole by requiring that source code
changes be made available to users of such services.

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Re: Do Debian's users care about the AGPL?

[Chris Burkhardt]

Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
> Sometimes I get the feeling that Debian's users and Debian's
> developers live in separate worlds.
> 
> There's currently a long thread in d-legal over the AGPL. One DD has
> expressed reservations towards the AGPL to the point where she has
> decided not to package a certain program covered by the AGPL.

Here's the web archive of the thread for anyone interested:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2008/08/msg00045.html

> Do Debian's users care about this sort of legal geekery or is
> everything fine as long as AGPLed programs go into non-free?

I think caring about legal geekery is one reason many Debian users are Debian
users. As a user (potential developer) I appreciate the AGPL's extra
restrictions guaranteeing that I will benefit from improvements made to the
program even if I only use it remotely. Of course, that comes at a cost for the
maintainers of a service based on an AGPL'd program, but hopefully that was
something they examined and accounted for in setting up the service.

I see nothing in the AGPL which is in any way against the DFSG, so I'd like to
see AGPL licensed programs in main. It's certainly trying its best to keep the
spirit of Free software alive even for binaries which are executed by end-users
but not distributed. I like the idea.

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Re: recommendations for CD burning.

[Chris Burkhardt]

Chris Burkhardt wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Folk,
>>
>> The CD FAQ mentions K3b, X-CD-Roast and a few 
>> other GUI frontends.  Judging by wikipedia, K3b 
>> is the most advanced.  
>>
>> Can anyone recommend one of these for use under 
>> Xfce4.  I'm more concerned for efficient 
>> functionality than for sophistication.
> 
> Brasero and GomeBaker are both nice [...]

(Sorry, that should be GNomeBaker.)

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Re: recommendations for CD burning.

[Chris Burkhardt]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Folk,
> 
> The CD FAQ mentions K3b, X-CD-Roast and a few 
> other GUI frontends.  Judging by wikipedia, K3b 
> is the most advanced.  
> 
> Can anyone recommend one of these for use under 
> Xfce4.  I'm more concerned for efficient 
> functionality than for sophistication.

Brasero and GomeBaker are both nice, and they are GTK based so they will match
the rest of your Xfce apps and won't have extra QT dependencies.

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Re: making a subscript in text in SVG

[Chris Burkhardt]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Folk,
> 
> This puts subscript 1 on text f in SVG but is a little cumbersome.
>   f
>   1
> 
> This would be more tidy but fails.
>   f1
> 
> Does anyone have an improvement on the first instance?

Does this work?:

f1

http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/text.html#BaselineShiftProperty

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Re: Which ISO to use for Intel Core 2 Duo processor T5550?

[Chris Burkhardt]

Chris Burkhardt wrote:
> Amogh Hooshdar wrote:
>> I have an Acer 4620 Laptop with Intel Core 2 Duo processor T5550.
>> Which Debian ISO should I download?
> 
> i386 if you want a 32 bit environment, or an ia64 ISO if you want 64 bit.

Oops. By "ia64" I meant "amd64". Sorry.

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Re: Which ISO to use for Intel Core 2 Duo processor T5550?

[Chris Burkhardt]

Amogh Hooshdar wrote:
> I have an Acer 4620 Laptop with Intel Core 2 Duo processor T5550.
> Which Debian ISO should I download?

i386 if you want a 32 bit environment, or an ia64 ISO if you want 64 bit.

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Re: Lenny users: attn about Gnome/libxml2 breakage

[Chris Burkhardt]

Christian Jaeger wrote:
> (a) consider accessing library-internal types directly by using a
> header file of a library a bug if the library and the library consumer
> are to be packaged separately; since the way of packaging couldn't be
> safely foreseen by an application developper, this means, using such
> types from header files would *always* be a bad thing, and hence, a
> library exposing such information in it's public header files should
> be treated buggy itself.

Does Debian have any existing policy covering this?

I'm not familiar with the libxml2 API, but a quick perusal of the docs
leads me to believe that the correct way to get a pointer to an
xmlEntity struct is through the 'xmlSAX2GetEntity' function. But at the
same time I don't see in the docs anywhere that it is to be considered a
private structure.

Even if the docs are ambiguous, if it is meant to be private, then it
should be enforced as such in the code (like you said, the library
shouldn't expose it in its public header files). Unfortunately, some
languages *cough*c*cough* make encapsulation more difficult than others.

My question in this particular case is, should bug reports be opened
against librsvg, strigi, and the others requesting that they not
directly allocate memory for the xmlEntity structure? I can take the
time to do it, if it should be done.

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Re: Lenny users: attn about Gnome/libxml2 breakage

[Chris Burkhardt]

Christian Jaeger wrote:
> I didn't at first (I had first thought since it is "fixed" in testing
> already the libxml2 maintainers would already have taken care of it); in
> my self-reply I then Cc'd the member of the security team who made the
> security-fixed package (like I'm also doing now). Now I've also made a
> report, see:
> 
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=496125

Thanks, Christian, for filing the report and spending your Saturday making stack
traces. I just upgraded to version 2.6.32.dfsg-3 of libxml2 from Unstable and it
 works (thanks Mike!). Hopefully it will be in Lenny and Etch soon.

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Re: automounting in xfce

[Chris Burkhardt]

John O Laoi wrote:
> 
> I've tried some of these solutions.
> 
> However, when I insert a CD say, and run
> 
> # fdisk -l
> 
> it does not even see the CD volume,
> 
> so there is no device to mount.
> 
> 
> What could be causing that?

Hi John,

I'm pretty sure 'fdisk -l' only lists hard disk partitions and won't indicate
whether you have a CD in the drive or not.

Your CD-ROM drive is given a file under /dev by the CD-ROM driver. Then in your
/etc/fstab file, there should be a line mapping that device to a directory in
the filesystem (/cdrom, which is a link to /media/cdrom0, I think is the Debian
default).

For example, in my /etc/fstab file, I have this line:

/dev/scd0   /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0

I didn't add that line, some smart part of Debian did (maybe the installer?)

Check to see if your fstab file has a similar line. If it does, you can manually
mount the CD:

mount -a
- OR -
mount /media/cdrom0

Then 'cd /cdrom; ls' to see the contents of the CD.

Otherwise you need to find out what device your CD-ROM drive is (grep'ing
through the output of dmesg, I guess).

Or if your drive is not even being detected by the driver, you need to figure
that out. Have you ever successfully read any CD in your system?

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Re: Lenny users: attn about Gnome/libxml2 breakage

[Chris Burkhardt]

Christian Jaeger wrote:
> Today I did the usual dist-upgrade for my "testing" install, and it
> left me with a badly broken (from user's perspective) installation,
> because basically all Gnome applications stopped working. After a bit
> over 2 hours worth of investigation, I've found out how to solve the
> issue; since I first looked here and didn't find anything gnome
> related, I'm sending this to the list for the casual other victim.
> 
> Symptom: Gnome apps just hang, without outputting anything to
> stdout/stderr (or .xsession-errors if started through the menu).
> 
> Problem: the apps segfault inside libxml2, and thereafter enter a
> deadlocked state in a mutex (or in a select call); the former is
> apparently a bug in libxml2, the latter seems to be the Gnome
> functionality to pop up a windows which seems to have an issue on it's
> own (so it's really two bugs happening here, obscuring the
> investigation a bit.)
> 
> Solution: install libxml2 from unstable; this is actually a downgrade
> (from libxml2 2.6.32.dfsg-2+lenny to 2.6.32.dfsg-2). I.e. "apt-get
> install -t unstable libxml2/unstable", but you need to have the
> unstable sources in apt.sources and use apt pinning (I won't explain
> that here, check other sources).

Hi Christian, thanks for the warning and solution.

After my dist-upgrade last night, gdm would not start (it gave me a "The
greeter program appears to be crashing" message, and never got to the
login screen). But I could start Xorg with 'startx' and all my Gnome
programs worked fine (including gnome-appearance-properties).

Downgrading libxml2 to the pre-security-update version fixed gdm, so now
everything works.

Have you opened a bug report on this anywhere?

I'm on a Lenovo X60 Tablet, Core Duo:
2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Wed Aug 20 12:56:41 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux

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Re: F/OSS Repository

[Chris Burkhardt]

Zaki Akhmad wrote:
> Hello all
> 
> I am from Indonesia. I would like know, F/OSS repository besides
> sourceforge. Can somebody mention other F/OSS repository?

More an index than a repository, but if you're just looking for software to use:
http://freshmeat.net/

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Re: compatibility

[Chris Burkhardt]

Kenn Bannerman wrote:
> 
> I'm looking at various Linux versions but none seem to indicate whether
> they are compatible with certain software programs such as:

A better strategy would be to ask the software vendors whether or not their
program is supported under Linux.

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Re: automounting in xfce

[Chris Burkhardt]

John O Laoi wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks for the help.
> 
> 
> I am having problems installing the package thunar-volman.
> 
> This is a package management problem, at which I am no expert!
> 
> 
> The package is not available on etch, but is on the list of packages for
> sid:
> 
> http://packages.debian.org/sid/thunar-volman
> 
> 
> However, when I issue
> 
> # aptitude show -t sid thunar-volman
> 
> I get
> 
> E: Unable to locate package thunar-volman

That is because you do not have the sid repositories listed in your 
sources.list.

However, the thunar-volman package requires Thunar version 0.5.1 or later, and
the Etch Thunar is only at 0.4.0.

You could try installing Thunar from the etch-backports (it has version 0.9.0)
and then installing thunar-volman from Lenny. To do that you need to add
backports and testing repository lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib

then do:

apt-get uninstall thunar
apt-get -t etch-backports install thunar
apt-get -t lenny install thunar-volman

If that doesn't work, or is too much trouble, there are other automounting
solutions you can look into. For example, ivman is in etch:
http://ivman.sourceforge.net/

Hope that helps,
- Chris


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Re: Which C++ STL manual package in Debian

[Chris Burkhardt]

hce wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I installed stl-manual in Debian, but it is HTML format, I cannot see
> from the man. Is there a STL manaual package in Debian I can use the
> man to display it?
> 
> ii  stl-manual 3.30-6 C++-STL documentation in HTML

I can't find any reference to a man/troff version of the manual anywhere. I'm
afraid it doesn't exist. But you can get some STL documentation in info format
from: http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~danlee/fun/STL-doc/

- Chris


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Re: automounting in xfce

[Chris Burkhardt]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 09:43:30PM +0100, John O Laoi wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I want to set up automounting on my etch system, which is using XFCE4.
>>
>> Basically, I want my CDs and flash devices to automount when I insert them.
>>
>>
>>  I have done some googeling, and it seems that I need to use Thunar's volume
>> manager, and do the following in Thunar:
>>
>> Edit | Preferences, Click on Advanced Tab, Select 'Enable Volume Manager',
>> Configure
>>
>>
>>  However, when I go
>>
>> Edit | Preferences | Advanced
>>
>> I see nothing except "Folder Permissions"
>>
>>
>>  Any hints?
> 
> It's been a long time since I ran xfce, but I would suggest you make
> sure all of thunar's (and xfce's, for that matter) "Recommends" are
> installed. I seem to recall that thunar likes gamin for this sort of
> thing. 

Specifically, chack that the thunar-volman package is installed (it is
"suggested" by thunar).

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Re: no network connection

[Chris Burkhardt]

Ed Sutter wrote:

> My goal is to have the debian-based system start up with Ethernet
> enabled immediately (I would have thought that would be the standard
> way it would boot up).  I don't want to have to log into my console
> and click something to start up Ethernet.

You shouldn't have to. It's just a matter of getting the contents of
/etc/network/interfaces correct. I'm not familiar with Gnome's network-manager,
but if you post the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces I bet somebody
could help you.

[...]

> I assumed that the ifup/ifdown stuff discussed in the "man interfaces"
> was referring to some call to ifup that was being done during
> system startup somewhere; hence, the reason for my reboot.

You're correct. If you want to restart ifupdown without rebooting, you can issue
'/etc/init.d/networking restart' (without quotes and as root -- use sudo if
you've got it). That'll save time, especially while you're debugging.

Good luck,

- Chris

> 
> See what I mean?
> 
> 
> Shachar Or wrote:
>> On Wednesday 20 August 2008 23:29, Ed Sutter wrote:
>>> Thanks for the responses!
>>>
>>> My /etc/network/interfaces file already has the following:
>>>  > # The loopback network interface
>>>  > auto lo
>>>  > iface lo inet loopback
>>>  >
>>>  > # The primary network interface
>>>  > allow-hotplug eth0
>>>  > iface eth0 inet dhcp
>>>  >
>>>  > auto eth0
>>>
>>> I commented out the "auto eth0" line and rebooted.
>>
>> Don't reboot for network configuration...
>>> No change.
>>
>> What is the change you're looking for?
>>
>>> Then I put "auto eth0" back in and commented out "allow-hotplug eth0".
>>> Same thing.
>>>
>>> Any other thoughts?
>>
>> Did you read the whole documentation and understand how the ifupdown
>> thing works?
>>
>> Also, 'man ifconfig' to see how to check the status of your interfaces.
>>> Ed
>>>
>>> Shachar Or wrote:
 On Wednesday 20 August 2008 22:46, Sebastian Canagaratna wrote:
> Ed Sutter wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I have Debian 4.0 on a machine now for 2 days.
>> Thanks to this list, my screen resolution problem is
>> resolved.  Next (and hopefully last) problem is that
>> each time I boot the system I have to manually enable
>> my network connection.  When Gnome starts up, I see in
>> the top of the screen a small ethernet cable icon with
>> a big NOT sign  (red circle with a slash
>> through it) over top of it.  I right-click on that and
>> a pull-down menu allows me to enable my wired network.
>> Then everything is fine.
>>
>> How can I fix this so that the network just comes up automatically?
>> Couldn't find anything on this in the archives or in the GUI.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Ed
> Hi:
> You should have a files /etc/network/interfaces
>
> which should have something like:
>
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
>
>
> allow-hotplug eth0
>
> iface eth0 inet dhcp
>
> auto eth0
 There's no point in having both allow-hotplug and auto.

> *
>
> try it with and without the auto eth0. I am assuming the eth0 is your
> wired network: it may be eth1, or eth3 for you. I am also assuming you
> are using dhcp.
>
>
> man interfaces will give you more information.
>
> Sebastian Canagaratna
>>
> 
> 


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Re: Happy birthday, Debian!

[Chris Burkhardt]

Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
> 14 years!

15 years even! :)


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Re: suspend / hibernate

[Chris Burkhardt]

I can't help, but I can confirm it. I see it on my Linux Certified
laptop, which is some kind of Asus repackage job. I see system load
spike as high as 15 or so for a few seconds and then it ramps back
down to normal after a few more seconds. I've always assumed (I know,
I know) that it was just some housekeeping involved with the recovery
from hibernate.


I observe the same with my Lenovo X60 tablet. I also assumed it was normal.

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Re: swappiness of 2.6 kernel

[Chris Burkhardt]

Account for Debian group mail wrote:


Hello,

Has anyone played with the swappiness settings of the 2.6 kernel? It 
looks like the default is set at 60. I was thinking on this new machine 
I put together with 4 gigs of ram that I might bump this number up a 
little, maybe like 80.


Any thoughts?


I've never experimented, but it seems Andrew Morton sets it at 100: 
http://kerneltrap.org/node/3000


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Re: my ip was previously banned at http://forums.debian.net/

[Chris Burkhardt]

Damon L. Chesser wrote:

On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 18:20 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:

On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 14:57 흍㒲횛漨꺋帢ᚯ禫⵪


Paul,

is your client hosed, or mine, or something else?  


It must be somewhere towards your end, because Paul's responses appear as 
perfectly legible text/plain here. Is it only his emails that get mangled for you?


- Chris


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Re: my ip was previously banned at http://forums.debian.net/

[Chris Burkhardt]

stabbyjones wrote:


I have a static ip from my new isp and apparently it's been banned
from http://forums.debian.net/

Is there any way to get it unbanned? because it's banned i can't find
any admin to contact and i can't browse posts. it also can't be
changed without paying.


See if anyone at this address can help you out: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Also, you could access the forums through a proxy to read posts / query about 
the status of your IP address.


- Chris


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Re: Fast PDF File Viewing

[Chris Burkhardt]

Amit Uttamchandani wrote:

In comparison to a colleague's acrobat reader on windows, his acrobat
reader performs a lot faster.


Are your machines comparable processor- and RAM-wise?

(sorry for not answering your actual question)

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Re: Firefox 3?

[Chris Burkhardt]

Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:


Is there a version of Firefox 3--or, i guess, Iceweasel 3--in package 
form yet, or is it still in some kind of testing form where you have to 
compile it yourself?


FF3 on my Windows machine is shockingly much faster, so id like to move 
over to it on my Lenny machine too, if its stable and ready. But its not 
showing up in my lists, unless im searching wrong.


It's in Testing now.

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Re: SOLVED (mostly): How to Boot a Dell Optiplex 320?

[Chris Burkhardt]

H.S. wrote:
> Kent West wrote:
>>>
>>
>> I've just discovered that upgrading from the 2.6.18-6-686 kernel to
>> the 2.6.24-1-686 re-introduces a hang-up on booting. D'oh! (choosing
>> the old 2.6.18 kernel from lilo gets me going again, though - whew!
>> Stupid Optiplex 320!)
>>
>
> This might not matter, but can you verify that with new kernel, the root
> variable is being set as expected in /boot/grub/menu.lst ?

Except he's using LILO and not Grub. But Kent might want to make sure
everything in /etc/lilo.conf looks right. Congratulations on getting it going at 
all :)


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