Re: Need to do some weird keymapping
Thanks for the suggestion. I've been researching Loadkeys, and it looks like it'll do the job. There are two things I haven't been able to find, though: 1. What Debian package includes loadkeys. 2. A list of all keycodes. > Look into loadkeys > > -Brian
Need to do some weird keymapping
I'm in a situation where I need to do some keymapping. This is what I need to accomplish. 1. This is for console only. X is not installed on the machine. 2. A few keys (like the up and down arrow keys, the < and > keys, and a few other) need to work normally. 3. All other keys need to be disabled, or mapped to something useless like ~. 4. If possible, I'd like "," to be mapped to "<" (so a user could type a < without using the shift key"), and the same with "." to ">". 5. If possible, I'd like this keymapping to affect only tty1. If that's not possible, then I'll survive by having this mapping only take affect on a particular runlevel. Any points to basic keymapping instructions, or any other suggestions, would be appreciated. -- Craig McPherson Baptist Student Union http://www.bsu-hog.org/
Bad errors during upgrade
Debian Testing on i386 Here's the problem... Preparing to replace debconf 0.5.59 (using debconf_0.5.59_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement debconf ... Setting up debconf (0.5.59) ... Use of reserved word "our" is deprecated at /usr/lib/perl5/Debconf/Gettext.pm line 19. Bareword "our" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at /usr/lib/perl5/Debconf/Gettext.pm line 19. Unquoted string "our" may clash with future reserved word at /usr/lib/perl5/Debconf/Gettext.pm line 19. Array found where operator expected at /usr/lib/perl5/Debconf/Gettext.pm line 19, at end of line (Do you need to predeclare our?) Global symbol "@EXPORT" requires explicit package name at /usr/lib/perl5/Debconf/Gettext.pm line 19. syntax error at /usr/lib/perl5/Debconf/Gettext.pm line 19, near "our @EXPORT" BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/Debconf/Template.pm line 7. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/debconf/frontend line 22. dpkg: error processing debconf (--install): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 255 Errors were encountered while processing: debconf I get the same error while installing a number of other packages. I tried Debconf-Tiny, and it does the same thing. Rather ruining my day. Thanks for any suggestions. Please CC your replies to me.
Panics under kernel 2.4.0-test8
(I know I should probably ask this on one of the kernel mailing lists, but you folks are nicer, and smarter. Please CC me if you reply to this, because the list server won't seem to let me resubscribe right now.) I have one old Debian box running up-to-date Woody with kernel 2.4.0-test6. I have a new Debian box that I set up two days ago, that's going to replace the old box, also running up-to-date Wooody, but I have a problem with it. For the rest of the e-mail, I'll call the systems OLD and NEW. OLD has a rtl8139 network card on a 100BaseTX network. NEW also has a rtl8139 network card (the model name is "SMC EZ-CARD" -- I've learned to avoid anything with "EZ" in the name, but I didn't have a choice in this case); actually, it has two rtl8139 network cards (one for the DSL interface), but the problem existed before I put the second card in. Running Debian's stock 2.2.16 kernel on NEW, everything works fine. However, under 2.4.0-test8, I get regular kernel panics and reboots whenever there's heavy traffic on the local network. The following things will all cause NEW to reboot: 1. Ping-flooding any machine on the network from NEW 2. Ping-flooding NEW from any other machine on the net 3. Telnetting from NEW to OLD and doing anything that produces a lot of text, like "find / *" 4. Moving a large file between OLD and NEW via FTP or SMB. 1-3 will crash the machine in seconds, 4 is a toss-up -- if the file transfer takes more than 5 seconds, NEW dies before it comples; with small files it varies. Even a simple continuous ping involving NEW (in either direction) will crash it eventually, although it might take hours. I'd like to say again that everything works fine under 2.2.16. I ping-flooded it to hades and back, and it didn't miss a beat. I've recompiled 2.4.0-test8 numerous times with numerous options, but I still haven't had any luck. It always crashes. Here's the kernel panic message (sometimes it just reboots instead of showing me this, though): Oops! (a whole lot of hex dump stuff) Ai, killing interrupt handler! Kernel panic: attempted to kill the idle task. Interrupt handler - not syncing. Here's my kernel configuration: http://www.bsu-hog.org/config (If you can't access that site... well, she's crashed again) I know that the real "solution" would be to go back to 2.2.X, or an earlier version of 2.4.0-test, but there are several reasons why that would not be convenient: my firewall script is written in iptables format, and it would take a lot of work to convert it back to ipchains, every partition except my root partition is using ReiserFS and I'd have to backup and re-create them (going back to an earlier kernel version would require a ReiserFS downgrade as well), I just got a USB UPS I want to play with, I haven't checked to see if 2.2.X supports my UDMA chipset, and I'm using devfs and am not sure if things would break if I stopped using it. Thanks for any insight. (Don't forget to CC me, please) -- Craig McPherson Network Admin, Baptist Student Union Fayetteville, Arkansas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exporting list of installed packages
I currently have a Debian server with a very large (but finite) number of packages installed. I'll be replacing it with a new server soon, and to ease the migration I'm looking for a way to tell the new server to install all the packages that the old server currently has installed. It would take hours to select them all by hand, so I'm looking for some way to export the list of installed packages on the old server to a file, and tell apt or dselect on the new server to install those packages. Thanks for any suggestions! -- Craig McPherson Network Admin Baptist Student Union Fayetteville, Arkansas
Re: Resetting dselect
Highlight the very top entry in dselect, "- All packages -", and press the = key. Pressing an action key when highlighting any category heading applies that action to ALL packages in that category, and "- All packages -" is a heading that contains every package. Hope that helps. On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 04:10:34PM +0800, Andrew McRobert wrote: > hi all > > Does anyone know a quick way to unselect (hold I guess) all the packages in > dselect (as opposed to going through the whole list and hitting "=")??? > > thanks > Andrew -- Craig McPherson Network Admin Baptist Student Union Fayetteville, Arkansas
Bad Samba filesharing problem
Dear list, Please help save the life of our loyal Linux server. If I can't get this problem fixed soon, the higher-ups are going to order our faithful server to be Euthanized and replaced with a horrible Windows NT Server monstrosity. So to keep our faithful little server from suffering a fate worse than death, any advice would be appreciated. The situation here is that we have 1 Linux server running Samba, one Windows NT client, and a scad of Windows 9x machines. The problem is that filesharing between the server and the NT machine, and between the server and one of the Windows machines, is having problems. Copying a file from the server to either of those two machines (or opening a file on the server on one of those two machines takes an impossibly long time). Using our database file as an example: it's about 5MB. Copying it between any of the two Windows machines on the network (10BaseT) takes about 5 seconds. Copying it from either of the two problem machines to the server takes about 5 seconds. Copying it from the server to one of the problem machines takes about... two hours. It simply doesn't work. Moving files from the server to either of the two problem machines is basically impossible, it's ridiculously slow. All other network activity seems normal. I made 3 changes about the time the problem started, but I'm almost positive that things were working normally for a time after all these changes were made. 1. Installed a new central hub (I've elimintated the possibility of a physical network problem, though) 2. Moved to Linux 2.4-test3 3. Moved to the ReiserFS filesystem for some of the shared files. Here's the Global section of the smb.conf workgroup = CHURCH netbios name = LAMB server string = Linux server running Samba announce as = NT announce version = 4.2 #bind interface only = YES browse list = YES case sensitive = NO change notify timeout = 90 deadtime = 30 debug level = 0 debug timestamp = YES dns proxy = YES domain logons = YES domain master = YES encrypt passwords = YES getwd cache = YES interfaces = 127.0.0.1 192.168.1.1 keepalive = 7200 load printers = NO local master = YES lm announce = NO lock directory = /var/samba log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m logon drive logon path logon script = %U.bat lpq cache time = 0 mangled stack = 100 max disk size = 1024 max log size = 1024 max xmit = 8192 message command = echo "Message from %f to %t" && cat %s nt pipe support = YES #null password = NO os level = 256 #SUCK IT DOWN #panic = /etc/init.d/samba start passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u preferred master = YES read raw = YES security = user smb passwd file = /etc/samba/smbpasswd socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192 status = YES syslog = 2 syslog only = YES time server= YES unix password sync = YES update encrypted = YES wins proxy = NO wins support = YES write raw = YES Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. -- Craig McPherson Network Admin Baptist Student Union Fayetteville, Arkansas
Re: Strange GPM behavior
On Sun, May 28, 2000 at 11:34:23PM +0200, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: > this will not work ... repeater ms3 is not implemented - as far as i > remember ... I commented out the repeater line, and now everything works nicely. Thank you.
Re: Setting X resolution
The XF86Setup program is the closest you're going to get to that. On Sun, May 28, 2000 at 05:11:08PM -0400, Daniel Lesage wrote: > Is there any way to configure X resolutions and select the default > directly from X (using a graphical interface), rather than editing the > XF86Config file by hand or running a console application?
Strange GPM behavior
Hmm, this is a new one. When GPM is running, the mouse will work in the console... but the mouse cursor in X freezes and won't move. When I stop GPM, mouse access is lost in the console, and the X mouse cursor comes back to life. I've never before seen GPM cause the mouse to stop working in X... what could cause this? The mouse is an old three-button Logitech-brand serial mouse. gpm.conf looks like this: device=/dev/ttyS0 responsiveness= repeat_type=ms3 type=ms append="-l \"a-zA-Z0-9_.:~/\300-\326\330-\366\370-\377\"" Thanks.
Re: Another package installation problem
On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 09:42:02PM -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote: > > Update the dpkg package and that error should go away (though methinks > there would be quotes around the string "System V ..."). > Thanks... but I'm using the latest version of the dpkg package, as well as the latest version of the util-linux package. I even forced a reinstall of dpkg to be sure. Potato and Woody use the same versions of each package, so I assume it isn't a simple problem with the package file itself... it would have been fixed in Potato by now, I guess. Any other suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks.
Another package installation problem
Cool! After using Debian almost exclusively for about a year, I discovered a brand new error message! Anybody know what to do about this? (Error marked with a --> at front of line) Preparing to replace util-linux 2.10f-5 (using util-linux_2.10f-5_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement util-linux ... Setting up util-linux (2.10f-5) ... -->install-info: unrecognized option `--description=System V interprocess communication facilities' dpkg: error processing util-linux (--install): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Util-linux is stuck halfway installed, which is keeping me from installing a few remaining packages. Any help on this error would be appreciated. Thanks again!
Sorry... ignore previous message.
I'm sorry. I completely overlooked the fact that the package was listed at the very front of the line until after I sent the last e-mail. This all-nigher thing might not have been the best idea... :) Thanks again, Craig McPherson
Re: What package contains these utilities?
Thanks for the reply, however I suppose I didn't make it clear what I needed to know. > $ dpkg -S update-rc.d > dpkg: /usr/man/man8/update-rc.d.8.gz > dpkg: /usr/sbin/update-rc.d That's cool and all... however, I need to know what package provides those two files (well, just the second actually). There's no package called update-rc.d, but I need to know what package the update-rc.d files come from, so I can install it. Thanks again.
What package contains these utilities?
Dear list: I need to know what package(s) contain(s) the following programs: ldconfig start-stop-daemon install-info update-rc.d In case anyone wonders why I ask, I'm pulling an all-nighter to "rescue" our Red Hat server by Debianizing it, and so far my first Redhat->Debian upgrade has been going quite well... however there are a number of important packages that can't install without one or more of the above utilities (yes, I know about the "bad-path" option, but a number of packages actually need those utilities in order to install properly). A quick response would be greatly appreciated... I need to have this upgrade finished by sunrise for the sake of personal safety. Thanks! Craig McPherson
Re: Emacs, Netscape and Apache - together?
Have you tried using a statically-linked version of Netscape? I also have had problems with Netscape & libraries, but if you use something like the static Motif version of Netscape 4.6, there shouldn't BE any problems to worry about. Problem is, I don't recall seeing any earlier versions of Netscape available as statically-linked binaries, and I think Netscape 4.6 requires a couple other packages that might very well not work under Hamm. I really don't see why Emacs, Netscape, and Apache would conflict with each other, or even know about each other's existence.
Re: wished I found wish
On 20 Jun 99, at 6:45, Klaus Pieper wrote: > You need wish to make xconfig. What do I have to install for my wishes > to become true? Tcl/Tk 8.0 includes the wish program, for starting Tcl/Tk programs. I don't remember what it's called on the Debian list, but you should be able to find it. -- Craig McPherson The University of Arkansas, Fayetteville AR Linux Registered User #128364 [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 10262746 "This man walks into a bar... and it hurts!"
Hoping for some help with this kernel error
Well, my little foray into kernel compiling didn't meet with much success... any ideas on this? "kmod failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k binfmt-464c, errno=8 request_module[binfmt-464c]: fork failed, errno 11" repeat endlessly.... -- Craig McPherson The University of Arkansas, Fayetteville AR Linux Registered User #128364 [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 10262746 "This man walks into a bar... and it hurts!"
Netscape crashing -- a lot.
I'm hoping that someone will be able to offer some advice on this, because it's annoying when a program crashes under Linux even more often than it crashes under Windows. Anyway, the problem is that Netscape is quite frequently crashing with a "bus error." This usually happens when I close a Netscape window (actually, it happens close to half the time when I close a Netscape window), which is painful because I have to either live with an ever-growing number of pop-up ads or risk a crash. Netscape also crashes when I run very low on virtual memory, with the same error. THE SCENARIO: P2 233, 64MB RAM, 128MB swap Debian potato (though the behavior was the same when I was still using slink) XFree86 3.3.3 using the Mach64 server (latest versions) Netscape 4.6, dynamically-linked (IIRC) motif. Have tried many different window managers, Gnome, and KDE, behavior is the same with all of them. If I start Netscape from an xterm, the error looks something like: bus error netscape Something of the sort. Any ideas? Are any of the earier versions of Netscape more stable than 4.6? I'm willing to use whatever is stable. I haven't yet tried earlier Netscapes. Thanks for any help.
I compile crappy kernels
Well, I can't seem to compile a kernel that doesn't generate an endless stream of error messages when I try to boot. Here's what I get (repeated until I reboot): kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k binfmt-464c,errno=8 request_module[binfmt-464c]: fork failed; errno 11 It would help if I knew what binfmt-464 was... I tried grepping for it in my config file, but with no luck. If anyone can offer any help on fixing these errors, I'd much appreciate it. Thanks.
Re: New Win Convert--needs some help :)
On 13 Jun 99, at 18:30, Jeremy W. wrote: > 1: How easy is it to install, and where can I find complete installation > instructions? I've installed three distributions, and I think the Debian install is the most logical. It's fairly simple (doesn't take you through much of any system configuration, just install options). I didn't find it very difficult, and the included fdisk program is MUCH better than that Disk Druid thing (which refused to even look at my hard drive), though the install isn't as clear on some options, such as where to install LILO, as some of the other distros. The install program does let you select modules to load, which is very handy. The install guide can be found on any Debian FTP site in the debian/dists/slink/main/disks-i386 directory, called install.txt. > 2: Is KDE available for the Debian distribution? I've seen it, and it looks > like a very smooth transition from a Win32 environment. Yeppers. ANYTHING is available for the Debian distribution (a lot of stuff these days has been put in .deb format, Debian can do RPMs & other types of package files, and if the software you want isn't in package form at all, you can always install it yourself), but KDE is easy to acquire & install using apt-get after simply adding one line to your sources.list file. > 3: Is there an included boot manager (gotta have win for my games :-)? Comes with LILO (I haven't seen any dist that DOESN'T come with LILO), but the install program doesn't offer much in the way of LILO configuration, so you'll probably have to configure it after installation. > 4: Is this (below) hardware supported, or where can I find a list that will > tell me if it is? > > Dell Dimension: Pentium III 500 mhz - Good TNT2 Vid Card - I believe I recall reading in some of the X documentation that the TNT2 driver isn't ready yet, but the documentation I was reading was fairly old. There's a card list somewhere at http://www.xfree86.com/, check it for details. You will be able to use it with the regular SVGA server, though. Voodoo2 3d accelerator - A TNT2 and a Voodoo2? Niccce... anyway, it has been done, but I don't know any details... you'll have to read some documentation, I'm sure. Soundblaster Live 512V - It will work as a basic sound card; I don't know if there are any programs yet that support things like Environmental Audio, etc. Altec Lansing ACS-495 Speakers - just fine MS Intellimouse - Will work as a basic mouse without any extra effort, and I've seen software for making the little wheel do stuff. Everything should work just fine, though you will need to do a bit of research & configuration work to use non-basic hardware features such as environmental audio & the little mouse wheel. Good luck!
Re: access beyond end of device
On 13 Jun 99, at 20:08, Peter Christensen wrote: > Partition check: HDA: HDA1 HDA2 < HDA5 > HDA3 HDA4 > attempt to access beyond end of device ... > isofs_read_super: bread failed, dev 03:02 iso-blknum 16 block 32 > kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on 03:02 One thing that springs to mind is that you might be trying to boot to a partition that extends past the 1024th cylinder. Boot from a Debian rescue disk, enter fdisk from there, and check where your Linux partition begins and ends... if it ends past the 1024th cylinder, that's bad, if it begins past the 1024th cylinder, that's quite bad. Real up on LBA and disk geometry if repartitioning is out of the question, something like EZ-BIOS could probably help. (I was silly enough to forget I had EZ-BIOS installed, and accidently let lilo overwrite my MBR, which caused Bad Things -- gotta be careful with that). That might not be it, but that's one of the things it could be. Good luck. > I have Windows 95 in one partition and Linux in another. I only > recently installed Linux and haven't really done anything with it yet > because of this problem. Someone in this user group some time ago > suggested that my partitions might be overlapping. I re-installed > everything, going back to fdisk twice, to no avail. Any other thoughts > on what I might do to solve this problem??? > > Peter Christensen
Re: BE MORE SIMPLE!!!!
On 8 Jun 99, at 20:57, John Hall wrote: > How in the world do I download Debian? I've been at your site for 30 > MINUTES and have gone to every distribution link on it, but there's no > singular link that actually downloads ALL 2250 files of Debian, and WHO > in the world is going to down load TWO THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY > FILES one at a time!! *snip* As one Debian newbie to another, let me offer some advice. First, let me say that I can understand your frustration. About the only thing that I don't love about Debian is what seems to be a shortage of documentation compared to other distributions, and the first time this bothered me was when I spent much longer than 30 minutes trying to figure out just what it is I needed to download. HOWEVER, patience does pay off, and getting frustrated rarely solves problems. Thirty minutes is NOT that long to spend on a Linux problem. Be patient, read all the documentation you can find, try stuff, and then read the documentation again. It turns out that the solution to your problem is fairly simple, and I will share a few tips: 1. You don't WANT to download 2250 files. Why in the world would you want to? I can't imagine one human being wanting to use every single Debian package, and even if someone did, it would be MUCH faster and easier to download them with APT-get. (more on that later) 2. To the best of my knowledge, there is no single file that contains the entire Debian distribution except for the CD image, which is only useful if you want to burn a CD. I could be wrong about this, but regardless, there's really no need to download the entire distribution. 3. Off-topic: if you did want to download an entire large FTP directory, downloading the files individually would NOT be wise, when there are so many freeware FTP programs that can do such a job for you. Check Tucows under the FTP section if you ever need to download a lot of files from an FTP site. However, there's no need to do that to install Debian... apt-get does a wonderful job. 4. (here's the key) There is a small file in the slink/main/disks- i386/current directory of any of the Debian FTP sites called install.txt. This file is your FRIEND... read it, and it will mostly be smooth sailing from there (mostly).It will tell you want files you do need (all you need to download right now are a few files from the disks-i386/current directory), and what to do with them. Go through it step-by-step, downloading what you need. You won't need to download more than 15 MB or so of files now, and that will be enough to either create bootdisks or use loadlin, start the Debian setup program, partition your hard drive, install the base filesystem, get ppp running, and use the dselect program to start downloading the packages you want. The installation process is pretty self- explanatory; it will guide you through setting up a PPP connection, setting up apt-get, selecting packages you want, and then downloading, installing, and configuring them. Once you see the huge size of the packages list, and start browsing through it, you'll probably be saying, wow, I'm glad I didn't waste my time downloading all this stuff! Most of it is stuff you'll never need; downloading it all is kinda pointless. That's what dselect is for; to allow you to easily select what you want to download. 5. Don't get frustrated! For me, figuring out which files I had to download to get a base system up & running was much harder than the installation itself! :) (well, except for rescuing my partition table from the brink of oblivion, that was kinda nerve-wracking) REMEMBER: install.txt is your friend! Read it, read it again, save it, print it out, pray to it for good luck, etc. Here's the addy of the file on one of the FTP sites: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/slink/main/disks- i386/current/install.txt And the directory containing the files that you'll need to download in order to boot into Linux for the first time: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/slink/main/disks-i386/current/ 6. Good luck!
A default 2.2.x kernel for potato?
I'm currently using slink with the default kernel, and am currently downloading packages to update to potato, and I was wondering if there is a default kernel for potato like there's a default 2.0.36 kernel for slink. I tried the "linux" kernel from the potato/main/disks directory, but it seems to be a 2.0.36 kernel identical to the kernel from the slink disks directory. If I just upgrade all my base & recommended packages to the new versions from the unstable/main directory of an FTP mirror, while still using a 2.0.36 kernel, will the system run, or do some of the upgraded packages need to run under 2.2.x? Also, now that I've updated my package list with packages from the unstable directory, the conflict manager seems to want to remove the "kbd" package... it conflicts with another console-manager package, and whenever I try to disable that package, the conflict manager re-enables it and enables kbd. Does this new console manager replace kbd? I ask because kbd is in the Base section, and dpkg install generates a polite warning telling me that kbd shouldn't be removed unless I'm absolutely sure what I'm doing, which, of course, I'm not. Thanks for any help.
slink to potato
The lure of all the shiny bleeding-edge glibc2.1 apps has gotten to me, and I've decided to upgrade to potato. I stuck the unstable directory of a couple mirrors in my sources.list, selected to update all of the required and recommended packages, put all the optional & extra packages on hold (except those that other packages wanted me to upgrade) and started downloading. I've got 10 more hours to plan my battle strategy before the moment of truth, so I'm here to ask what else I'll have to do. I'm still using the stock Debian kernel, and I know it will have to be replaced... is the "linux" kernel from the potato/main/disks-i386/current directories of one of the FTP sites the kernal I should use? If I overwrite my kernal with it after all the new potato packages are done being set up, will things work? Or is there more to it than that? Thanks for any help. -- Craig McPherson The University of Arkansas, Fayetteville AR [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 10262746 "This man walks into a bar... and it hurts!"
glibc2.1 with slink... will stuff break?
Can anyone point me towards a document on installing glibc2.1 under slink? I could have sworn that I found such a reference somewhere, but now I can't seem to find it again. Anyway, is it a relatively safe matter of downloading a few updated packages & working out dependencies (which is about all I can handle right now), or is there more to it than that? Any pointers appreciated; thanks. For those who remember my concern about having mounted a seperate filesystem as /lib: I found that I couldn't umount the filesystem while the system was running, because the files were in use, so I just bit the bullet, took the mount out of fstab, copied all the libs over to a backup, prayed, and rebooted. A couple of daemons wouldn't start because of missing libraries, but once I copied the backups back over to the proper /lib, everything worked just fine. whew -- Craig McPherson The University of Arkansas, Fayetteville AR [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 10262746 "This man walks into a bar... and it hurts!"
Re: Quick mounting question
On 6 Jun 99, at 15:42, Brian May wrote: > It was my assumption that the original poster hadn't made any changes > to the old /lib directory - hence the only change required > is to remove the fstab entry and reboot... I didn't do anything to the old lib directory; I was just asking what happened to a directory if you mounted over it, because I couldn't find that information anywhere, and was curious about whether my old /lib directory was still there "underneath" the mounted copy. I appreciate the explanations from everyone. However, it was before I downloaded any packages that I copied all the libs over to hdc3 and started mounting it as /lib. I didn't think at the time about the fact that that /lib directory wouldn't get mounted until later in bootup. After I started mounting hdc3 as /lib, I installed quite a few packages that stuck things in /lib, and so now I'm wondering, is the system using the libs in the /lib directory on hda1 during bootup, and then using the libs in hdc3 after mounting it as /lib? I know very little about library versions, but that sounds like it could become a problem at some point. If I unmount /lib but still have it mounted in fstab, the worst that can happen is that I'll have to reboot & let it get remounted, correct? Since the old /lib directory should still be on hda1, my current plan is to copy everything from /lib (the /lib on hda1) to a temp directory, pray, unmount it, make sure the old lib directory is there, test everything out, mount hdc3 as something else in fstab, and then copy any new files that got put into the /lib on hdc3 back into the proper /lib. Would that work? Or should I just boot back into Windoze & stay there, for my own protection? :) On the subject of what to mount on a seperate filesystem... I don't really have any place big enough to mount /usr (I install a LOT of software) except for hda1, which is my root partition, and I don't really have anywhere else to put my root partition that isn't WAY past 1024 cylinders. Currently, I just have my 2.1 GB / on hda, my 128MB /lib on hdc, and two 512MB partitions on hdb that I mounted as /var and /tmp because I couldn't decide what else to do with them. How much space is usually required in /var and in /tmp? Is that overdoing it? Is there something better I should mount them as? I believe I heard of someone symlinking tmp to var/tmp, or something like that. Is that a feasible idea? Thanks for the help with this, and pardon my extreme ineptitude. -- Craig McPherson The University of Arkansas, Fayetteville AR [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 10262746 "This man walks into a bar... and it hurts!"
Quick mounting question
Over the past few days, I've been slowly getting my Debian system set up, and I have a quick question about mounting. On hdc, I had 128 MB of unpartitioned space, so I decided to make it another Linux partition and decide what to do with it later. It was the only Linux partition on hdc, so after installation, I decided to mount it as /lib, just so the disk wouldn't be totally idle. I mounted it as a temporary directory, copied all the files from /lib over to it, and then set it to mount as /lib in fstab. Now, my questions: 1. Are the original files from the /lib directory on hda1 (my /) still there, but just invisible because another filesystem is mounted as /lib, or are they gone? I didn't think it would be a very good idea to delete them before mounting the new /lib, because I worried that stuff wouldn't work very well without access to the lib files. 2. In the future, if I decide to use my 128 MB partition on hdc for something else, how should I go about that? Will everything break if I unmount /lib? 3. When installing Debian packages, I often see "Warning: /lib/somethingorother.2 is not a symlink". Is this because /lib is mounted on a different filesystem? Are there any consequences of this warning, or is it harmless? 4. Was mounting /lib on a different filesystem a completely dumb idea to begin with? What's something else I could put on my 128MB filesystem? Thanks for any help. I'm going to boot back into Debian & wrestle with X more & try to figure out why pine isn't working. Good day.
