Re: diald problem
I had a somewhat similar problem some time ago, I don't remember the exact details now so I'm not sure I'm talking about the same issue. When you upgrade your 2.2.x kernel to a 2.4.x one, you must upgrade many packages in order to keep them all working OK, this is documented in /Docs in the kernel source, CHANGES or README, IIRC. For example, pppd must be 2.4. Be sure to upgrade all that packages as documented and try again. Good luck !!! I installed Debian 2.2r6, installed a ppp-dialup link. This works fine with 'pon provider' I automated it with diald so it responds when there is an ISP-request an brings the link down after som idle time. So far, so good. I recently installed a new kernel 2.4.18. This look OK, but diald is dead (process is running thou). It won't respond to commands such as 'lynx', 'route' etc. Everything look the same as with 2.2r6. Same scripts are there, diald-process is running. Reinstalled diald while 2.4.18 is active, no change. ppp is working fine (pon provider establishes the link). Running 2.2r6 (2.2.20 kernel) everything works fine, including diald. What could be the problem here? Any clues? Anybody could help a little??? Thanx in advance, Frank. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running Debian Sid version 3.0 with Linux 2.4.13 i686 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: probleme beim runterfahren
On Thursday 06 June 2002 17:24, ben wrote: The official language of this mailing list is english. You should either post in english or try posting you message in: debian-user-german@lists.debian.org Good luck ! Hi, bin ein neuer debian user, und versuche mich so langsam reinzufuchsen. mal besser mal schlechter. aber es bringt spass. das problem, mein rechner bleibt regelmäßig beim runterfahren hängen, das sieht dann so aus: stopping X display manager :xdm und das war´s dann. rebooten hingegen funktioniert einwandfrei. muss wohl was kaputt gemacht haben :-( bin für jeden tip dankbar ben -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running Debian Sid version 3.0 with Linux 2.4.13 i686 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ROUTEUR ET IDENTD
Mr. Aurelien: If I counted correctly, you posted this message over 22 mailing lists. Moreover, most of them use english as official language, not french. I dare to say that this is not very polite... On Friday 07 June 2002 09:36, suardi aurelien wrote: J'ai installe un reseau local qui est relié au reste du reseau par unu machine linux configure comme routeur. La connexion a internet se fait via squid. Les machines du reseau local tourne sous windows. J'ai installe identd sur ces machines. L'identification au niveau de squid ne se fait pas. Je n'ai pas le nom d'utilisateur qui a lance la requete et la machine identifie est le routeur alors que je voudrais que ce soit la station ou est logue l'utilisateur. comment faire pour que identd fonctionne correctement? Comment configurer correctement pour permettre cette identification? -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running Debian Sid version 3.0 with Linux 2.4.13 i686 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: List etiquette/ Thanks everyone
Can someone tell me what is the agreed upon method on this list for saying thanks. There were so many replies to my questions it would be a very long job to reply to everyone individually with thanks, though if thats how it goes thats what I'll do. I think there is no standard method, I believe it's nice to see any of the posts in the thread replied with a prepending [SOLVED] in the subject line. That way those who helped are acknowledged that their suggestions were useful. You may express your gratitude within the message body in the way you feel inclined, but it's also useful to explain the details of your problem and the way you finally solved it, so the experience is spread amongst everyone. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running Debian Sid version 3.0 with Linux 2.4.13 i686 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT Apolog. Re: OT: debian-beer (was Re: wrapping
On Monday 27 May 2002 19:52, you wrote: on Mon, May 27, 2002, Daniel Toffetti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Monday 27 May 2002 08:37, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 09:42:06PM -0500, Dale Hair wrote: I think it's safe to say this has little or nothing to do with Debian. I agree, I apologize for getting that far in the offtopic. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running Debian Sid version 3.0 with Linux 2.4.13 i686 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: debian-beer (was Re: wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraphflows in mozilla?])
On Monday 27 May 2002 08:37, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sun, May 26, 2002 at 09:42:06PM -0500, Dale Hair wrote: Most Americans tend to be isolationists and pacifists, it took Pearl Harbor to awaken the sleeping giant. It actually created a giant superpower as we like to refer to ourselves. Then on Sept. 11 the giant awoke again. If something like 1939 were to happen again, we will be there. So how exactly did Desert Shield, Desert Storm, the occupation of Somolia, the invasion of Nicaragua, Korea, Vietnam, and the Cold War somehow not count as wars? America is a hostile nation. This contradiction is only apparent. While it's perhaps true that most citizen of the USA (*) are pacifist, most of them are also unaware of what their government _actually_ do in the matter of foriegn affairs. CIA's School of the Americas trained military men from most countries in South America in torturing and dirty war techniques. US supported economically and politically all of the coups d'etat during the '70s, mainly to stop the lefty political movements and guerrillas. Some 3 souls were tortured and killed or dissapeared only in Argentina. It was easier, cheaper and cleaner that an open invasion. Some friends of mine who traveled to the US were surprised nobody knew about that, and in fact, many got offended at the sole mention. In fact, I believe US is not an hostile nation, but it has an hostile government, and certainly, and isolationistic population. I find very hard to believe that the common US citizen would be proud of what US government does in / with foreing countries if they _actually knew_ what it happens outside. In a visit to Argentina in early '80s, US musician and geek Laurie Anderson said in an interview that US people is like a huge baby, sleeping the American dream. I hope that the huge baby (and not the military power) wake up before it's too late. (*) I'm american too, but from a southern country, so I used the more specific US citizen. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running Debian Sid version 3.0 with Linux 2.4.13 i686 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: debian-beer (was Re: wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraphflows in mozilla?])
If you want to spend less than US $30, then unless you find a real bargain somewhere, you're stuck with California sparkling wines, in which case Domain Chandon is a reasonable choice. We've sampled Gloria Ferrer Fridays at work, it's passable dry bubbly. I should ask around for some local picks. I'm coming up with another reason to recommend Debian: what _other_ distro has 100+ post flamewars on beer? ;-) Not only that, nobody even DARED to post complaining stay on topic, please !... :) -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running Debian Sid version 3.0 with Linux 2.4.13 i686 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: debian-beer (was Re: wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraph flows in mozilla?])
O Beer is beer. Budwiser makes more beer because they have bigger horses, that's all. Aaarrgghh !!! Hunt the heretic and put him in jail !! :-D No, no, no. American beer is American beer. Come to England and try a decent bitter or ale sometime ... If they are close to the Irish Guinness, I'll follow you :) No no no no. This guys having you on. Ale and bitter are a practic joke we play on tourists :) kind of an alcoholic pi55. Stick to the Guinness or Canadian beer or anything but, repeat anything but our beer. Only our wine is worse. Harvey A joke ??? Too sad I missed it... can you explain ? -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running Debian Sid version 3.0 with Linux 2.4.13 i686 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: debian-beer (was Re: wrapping [was: Re: disable paragraph flows in mozilla?])
[1] There's a difference between American beer and Oregonian beer, though, Widmer Brothers and McMenamins are still good; Henry Weinhards used to be good until they sold out to Miller, they're brewed out of St. Louis and the formula changed: it tastes like Miller Lite now. Beer is beer. Budwiser makes more beer because they have bigger horses, that's all. Aaarrgghh !!! Hunt the heretic and put him in jail !! :-D No, no, no. American beer is American beer. Come to England and try a decent bitter or ale sometime ... If they are close to the Irish Guinness, I'll follow you :) I used to buy a can of Guinness from time to time, but life went very hard here in Argentina and now any imported item is unaffordable :( OK, not many reasons to come here, but German beer is still the best. Why not many reasons !!!??? And anyway, German beer is enough of a reason ! Is there anything like a debian-beer list? No, I believe there is not... yet ! :) Perhaps debian-lifestyle would be funnier... ??? Some 85% of the beer market here is ruled by Quilmes (Argentina) and Brahma (Brazil), whose beers are perhaps a bit lighter and insipid that Budweiser. As a result, since 5 or 6 years ago there are more and more home brewers every day across the whole country !! (sorry the links are in Spanish, some images are great anyway!) http://www.cervezaelbolson.com/ http://www.cervezaartesanal.com/ http://www.cerveceroscaseros.com.ar/ http://www.CervezaCasera.com.ar -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running Debian Sid version 3.0 with Linux 2.4.13 i686 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: C64 emulator
What is the best C64 emulator for Linux? After doing a search on Google, I've noticed that there are quite a few ones oout there. I like vice a lot. It has worked without any problems with every game I have tried with it. It has a fullscreen mode and joystick support as well. Paul I second Paul, even though I've used it only to play M.U.L.E., it behaved very nice. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running Debian Sid version 3.0 with Linux 2.4.13 i686 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Directory sizes in mc
Of course I don't need it to be done with mc, if you know of any other ways to get an easy glimpse of disk space usage I'm interested also. How about (as root): du / | sort -n some.file You can then do nice things with grep as well. Yes, this allows you to do really cool things, only that *you* has to write them... :) I tried first looking for any already existing solution. du has some nice options like --max-depth=N, --summarize and --exclude=PATH, which allows for specific detail in certain points of the directory tree (/home, for example). I'll most surely end up writing a little script and calling it from the user menu in mc. Thanks for your help ! -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running Debian Sid version 3.0 with Linux 2.4.13 i686 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Directory sizes in mc
I had never bothered with this until I saw your note. I notice the following items: 1. As soon as you enter a directory, the display reverts to the standard. I noticed it too. 2. There is no entry in ~/.mc/ini that remotely resembles a directory display style. And besides this, the syntax for specifying the User Defined layout has nothing related also. 3. When you use it, there is a certain amount of disk thrashing. Of course, it has to examine the disk to know the size of the files contained in each directory. It occurs to me that mc probably calls df or another routine. Since there is activity going on all the time, having this feature built in would use a significant amount of system resources. I will bet that when you invoke it, you get a snapshot. Having thought about this, I think that were I designing mc myself, I would not build in an option such as you are requesting. Nothing would ever get done. Your comments (and that of Rob Weir also) are certainly worth. I don't mean to be permanently navigating the directory tree with such a feature turned on. It happens that I do some disk cleanup from time to time and it would be very handy to see the directory sizes that way. Last time I checked, just before my previous post, my 6 Gb disk partition had only 2% free space. I deleted some .debs from the apt cache and some old kernel sources and images, until I freed up to 25% of the space. Of course I can move from dir to dir with mc, running du at every point to get an idea of disk usage, but I guess the system resources it would require to do this would be more or less the same significant amount. Besides this, were you to design mc, I guess you could build some kind of directory tree image and store it in a file, with the sizes of every item and timestamped with the last access time. Certainly, I must admit I'm not completely sure about how much would this cache improve the resources utilization, my guess is that it would depend heavily on the way the disk is accessed by other users and procceses. For a single user, mostly desktop box, the cache would perform very good, but then you have a feature just for a trivial case... Of course I don't need it to be done with mc, if you know of any other ways to get an easy glimpse of disk space usage I'm interested also. Thanks for your reply ! -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running Debian Sid version 3.0 with Linux 2.4.13 i686 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Directory sizes in mc
Hi all ! In Midnight Commander there is a menu option Command-Show Directory Sizes which shows the actual size of the directories in the Size column of the panel. I would like to know if there is some way of doing this a permanent behaviour. I tried changing the Listing Mode to User Defined, but I can't get it to show the sizes. Thanks for your help ! -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running Debian Sid version 3.0 with Linux 2.4.13 i686 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: under six inches of water -- a debian tale
On Tuesday 07 May 2002 09:37, will trillich wrote: but the debian box, and i swear the cpu fan was under water acting as a mini boat-prop, was STILL OPERATING when saturated with H2O. No surprise !! Penguins are used to water... :) But please, don't feed your box with a fish... :) -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running Debian Sid version 3.0 with Linux 2.4.13 i686 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Internet Crashes
On Tuesday 23 April 2002 10:10, Lenny Leblanc wrote: After about 12 hours the Internet decides to stop working. I can see no traces of errors or mishaps in the syslog and not quite sure where to look now. Once the Internet crashes, if I try 'ifdown eth0' and 'ifup eth0' it still doesn't affect anything, but when I reboot the computer everything is fine. Any thoughts or ideas on what could be causing this?? The fact that it happens regularly after 12 hours suggests that perhaps it could be related to leasing time of dhcp. Check the contents of /etc/dhcpc/config and /etc/dhcpc/dhcpcd-ethN.info for leasing time or something alike, the numbers are seconds IIRC. I don't know much of this issues, but that kind of regularity in the crashes has been discussed before on the list. Hope this helps, -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running Debian Sid version 3.0 with Linux 2.4.13 i686 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Drivers for pca20tv video card] Re: ricerca
On Wednesday 17 April 2002 16:55, Gabry wrote: Ho una scheda tv cardpca20tv da un po di anni. adesso con windows millennium non mi funziona. Ci sono i drivers aggiornati? The original messages asks about uptodate drivers for a pca20tv video card. I know nothing about that, perhaps somebody else can help. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: scripting
begin jeff quotation: first, send replies to me...not the list... Then set a Reply-To: header. Don't expect everybody else to work harder so that you don't have to. all i did was ask...and i got like 20 replies...thank you very much.. thanks to ALL you COOL peeps on the list who HELPED me *wink wink mr. mcmahon*... Jeff, perhaps you are kindly willing to consider that it's a good idea to post the answers to the list, so that other readers can also benefit from it. Just an opinion. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[SOLVED] Re: Unix(LF) files to MSDOS(CRLF) and vice versa
How can I use rpl (or any other suitable command) to transform the \n character between Unix and Msdos formats ?? rpl seems to be the right tool, but I can't figure out how to specify that strings. Lots of good answers, let's not forget trusty old tr, it's feeling neglected. The key thing you need to know is the standard cr/lf sequence for text files: Mac ^M 013 0x0D\r Win ^M^J013 010 0x0D 0x0A \r \n 'nix ^J 010 0x0A\n PM Thanks !! Already solved it with unix2dos. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: User's perspective on upgrading to kernel 2.4?
Please note you'll have to upgrade many packages in order to keep using them with a 2.4 kernel, I recall now of pppd but there are others. Check the docs in the kernel tarball. No, he's already running woody, which supports kernel 2.4 natively. Only when running potato are package upgrades necessary. Please excuse me, I must have been reading the original post not very carefully... in fact, I was surprised nobody mentioned this issue in the previous answers. Silly of me. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: User's perspective on upgrading to kernel 2.4?
Any and all comments welcome, Richard Please note you'll have to upgrade many packages in order to keep using them with a 2.4 kernel, I recall now of pppd but there are others. Check the docs in the kernel tarball. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good day.
On Tuesday 09 April 2002 04:47, Patrick Kirk wrote: I can't keep it as I have to go to Nigeria to sing an agreement with the widow of the late colonel (singing agreements is a quaint African custom) so will send the deeds to the first person to wire me $1 Some two days ago, a team from the FMI headed by the Indian Anoop Singh came to Argentina for negotiations with the government. Does the Indians also singh agreements ?? :) -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody release
On Tuesday 09 April 2002 15:38, Raffaele Sandrini wrote: Don't want to stress just want to ask (i really don't want to use SuSE only because woody don't comes out) Blackmailer !!! ::)) Just a joke... -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The latest round of antivirus bouncebacks
On Wednesday 10 April 2002 20:30, Simon Hepburn wrote: Scott Henson wrote: Ok thats just not cool. You dont have to do that. This is an open list. And I believe it is against the inclusive philosophy of the Debian project as a whole to exclude someone for such a stupid purpose. Seconded. This goes totally against the spirit of Debian. It's not hard to filter this stuff out if you find it irritating. I think the suggestion to refuse list posts from outlook express is pretty moronic, if it was meant seriously. It is not an uncommon scenario for enthusiastic debian newbies to need to post to this list from windows to get help configuring their mail, before they are even in a position to post from within linux. Let's not put them off with this elitist bullshit. This list is for both *new* and experienced users, getting a few unneccessary and stupid emails goes with the territory. Posting snide and unhelpful comments in response to this, does nothing to further our community's reputation. I agree with both of you, I started reading and posting into this list from a Win95 box even before repartitioning the hard disk for the Debian installation. Now I'm very happy writing this message with KMail, reading the online newspaper with Konqueror and with a pretty Tux in the desktop wallpaper. And much of this is thanks to the help of the community members. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail rules (WAS Re: The latest round of antivirus bouncebacks)
4. Spell check. i think stipulating a spell check would impose too much on many non-native english speakers whose participation on this list is very valuable, and the purpose of the rules is to enable harmonious inclusion rather than exclusion. apart from that, misspelled words are hardly a great source of consternation. I'm non native english speaker. I haven't tried to setup spell checking, but I guess it's not that hard. Anyway, you could get a message with correctly spelled words, but the sentences will be simply bad formed or, at least, unusually written. I'm almost sure there are in this few lines many examples of what I say, things written in a way no native english apeaker would ever write. I've learnt english by myself and never been in an english speaking country. You can understand what I write but you would hardly understand it if I were speaking, because of my untrained pronunciation. I guess the message is clear enough anyway, since every time I post a message I got reasonable responses, so I've been correctly understood. The spellchecker is pretty, but hardly useful enough as to require it to post to the list. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mail rules (WAS Re: The latest round of antivirus bouncebacks)
On Thursday 11 April 2002 10:51, Kent West wrote: 1. no spam 2. text-only (no html, ms-tnef, etc.) 3. wrap text 4. English preferred. I do agree, but anyway most of the messages are posted in english. The few that are not in english are from first-timers. I often redirect messages in other languages to the language-specific mailing list. Indeed, it's no harm to make it explicit in the subscription confirmation request. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The latest round of antivirus bouncebacks
management of the list. If you want to express an opinion on the merits of the position, go for it. If you want to cast aspersions of fascism, save us both the trouble and pipe it to /dev/null. Well, it's not an exact reference to nazism, but it was very close. Hence, I invoke the application of the Godwin Law. Adam, please come back ! -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix(LF) files to MSDOS(CRLF) and vice versa
How can I use rpl (or any other suitable command) to transform the \n character between Unix and Msdos formats ?? rpl seems to be the right tool, but I can't figure out how to specify that strings. In the sysutils package, there are utilities to do this. Look at the manpages for dos2unix and unix2dos. #%[EMAIL PROTECTED](*) !!! I've been looking for unix2dos, but failed to find it in dselect and apt-cache search. FYI: If you send text files through FTP using ascii mode, it will also translate carriage returns. Only for local use by now, thanks ! (*) Don't try this at your console... :) -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unix(LF) files to MSDOS(CRLF) and vice versa
How can I use rpl (or any other suitable command) to transform the \n character between Unix and Msdos formats ?? rpl seems to be the right tool, but I can't figure out how to specify that strings. apt-get install flip lots of really useful command-line options. (You can even flip binary files if you're so inclined.) Binary files ?? Not that masochistic yet, I have to learn perl first :) Thanks ! -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unix(LF) files to MSDOS(CRLF) and vice versa
Hi ! How can I use rpl (or any other suitable command) to transform the \n character between Unix and Msdos formats ?? rpl seems to be the right tool, but I can't figure out how to specify that strings. Thanks !! -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chart drawing soft ?
Hi all ! I would like to know what are the tools available out there to make some fancy network drawings. I don't need an engineery tool to document the inner details of a complex network, think of just something to make pretty drawings for a tutorial or the like. It should have a palette of network/computer-ish icons, such as PC, Server, Router, Hub, Firewall, Printer, etc. I tried Kivio, but the only stencil it comes with is for flow charts, and the server of thekompany seems to be down. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems upgrading Python in Sid
Both apt-get upgrade and apt-get --ignore-hold upgrade give The following packages are kept back. Nothing is upgraded. Make that what error messages does apt-get --ignore-hold upgrade give it's getting late over here, time to go to bed. Have a good night. What error messages does apt-get upgrade give ? It seems that python has some kind of dependency problem which prevents me to purge python1.5-base and to upgrade some other packages. I keep them on hold by now. Here is what I see in dselect. If I try either to purge python1.5-base or to upgrade the packages that are on hold, dselect claims it has to deinstall LOTS of packages, such as most of KDE. Should I wait until new versions arrive ? This problem is lasting some two months now... Any comment ? -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems upgrading Python in Sid
| It seems that python has some kind of dependency problem which | prevents me to purge python1.5-base and to upgrade some other | packages. I keep them on hold by now. | Here is what I see in dselect. If I try either to purge | python1.5-base or to upgrade the packages that are on hold, dselect | claims it has to deinstall LOTS of packages, such as most of KDE. | Should I wait until new versions arrive ? This problem is lasting | some two months now... | Any comment ? You want to get rid of python1.5-base and instead install python1.5. Many months ago the organization of the python packages changed so that multiple versions can be installed side-by-side. You can have python1.5, python2.1 and python2.2 installed simultaneously. It doesn't worked, but it's likely that I'm failing to select the proper packages. And I'm still using dselect, perhaps some magic with apt-get can ease the problem ?? I did the following: marked python1.5 to be installed and python1.5-base and python-base to be purged. Because dependency issues relating the packages I've shown in my previous post (python-cddb, python-tk al.) dselect refuses to install python1.5 and keeps python1.5-base and python-base instead. I tried several combinations, to no avail. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[SOLVED] Re: Problems upgrading Python in Sid
Both apt-get upgrade and apt-get --ignore-hold upgrade give The following packages are kept back. Nothing is upgraded. Debian now has a dependency package called python which depends on the current default version of python and replaces python-base. Your problems are due to the fact that dselect does not currently understand replaces:. This is a known bug. Do: # apt-get install python As I said before in another reply, perhaps some apt-get magic... It worked. Thanks !!! You should then be able to upgrade the rest of your stuff from within dselect. If there is still stuff held back post again. apt-get install python removed python-base and upgraded all of the packages but one. Then, with dselect I upgraded that one (python1.5-tk) and it also removed python1.5-base. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: accented characters in linux/Debian?
I will have to use some accented characters, along with some 'enye's in my documents in Spanish. Does anyone know how to quickly get these characters, possibly through a keystroke toggle or some such? (I use Abiword/OpenOffice right now). Thanks! I've both console and X configured to work with an es_ES keymap and keyboard. Abiword works well just as any other KDE application, but I could not get OpenOffice to work properly. Both ñÑ and çÇ work OK but the accents don't work. Given that it seems to be a problem with OpenOffice, I guess asking in some OO-specific mailing list should yield more answers. I haven't tried it myself yet but it's likely I'll need to do it soon. I'll keep you informed. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems upgrading Python in Sid
Hi ! It seems that python has some kind of dependency problem which prevents me to purge python1.5-base and to upgrade some other packages. I keep them on hold by now. Here is what I see in dselect. If I try either to purge python1.5-base or to upgrade the packages that are on hold, dselect claims it has to deinstall LOTS of packages, such as most of KDE. Should I wait until new versions arrive ? This problem is lasting some two months now... Any comment ? ??? Updated packages (newer version is available) ??? ? Updated Optional packages ? ??? Updated Optional packages in section interpreters ??? *== Opt interpre python-cddb 1.3-3 1.3-7 *== Opt interpre python-id3 1.0-1 1.1-3 *== Opt interpre python-tk1.5.2-18.4 2.1.2-4 *== Opt interpre python1.5-tk 1.5.2-18.4 1.5.2-23 ??? Updated Optional packages in section sound ??? *== Opt soundjack 2.99.6-22.99.7-4 ??? Obsolete and local packages present on system ??? ??? Obsolete/local Optional packages in section base ??? *** Opt base kernel-image custom.1.0 none ??? Obsolete/local Optional packages in section interpreters *** Opt interpre python1.5-ba 1.5.2-18.4 none -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Turkish Fonts
when I press dotless i, or other turkish fonts nothing happens, just like I don't press anything.. Is your keyboard correctly configured? Perhaps you are using a keymap that doesn't correspond to your keyboard. Try with $ dpkg-reconfigure console-common and selecting the correct keymap. Hope this helps, -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advice on wysiwyg editor
Well, I need a wysiwyg editor a la M$ Word. The documents I'll edit are more or less as complex as one see in papers, I mean, numbered schemes, headers, footers, inserted images and tables, page numbers, footnotes, text styles, chapters, TOCs, etc. So far I'm trying with Kword, Abiword and Lyx. Abiword is better that Kword at importing M$ Word documents. Lyx seems to be the perfect tool for the task, but it lacks (to my taste) a little feedback. OK, I'll admit it, I believe it's very powerful, but I find it UGLY :) Some sort of Print Preview would be very valuable. Lyx could do Print Preview last I checked (via DVI or PostScript). Lyx is *not* a WYSIWYG editor, though. You might find klyx more eye pleasing (though, I don't think it's been kept up to date). I found the Preview feature, it also allows for PDF. On the other hand, it seems that klyx has not made into sid yet... very fancy. Has way better support for indices and bibliographies than most word processors (but, again, it's a bit of work to set up). I'm trying to avoid that extra work, but well, my alternative then would be M$ Word... :( Thanks for your help !! -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OpenOffice (was Re: Advice on wysiwyg editor)
Well, I need a wysiwyg editor a la M$ Word. The documents I'll edit are more or less as complex as one see in papers, I mean, numbered schemes, headers, footers, inserted images and tables, page numbers, footnotes, text styles, chapters, TOCs, etc. So far I'm trying with Kword, Abiword and Lyx. Abiword is better that Kword at importing M$ Word documents. Lyx seems to be the perfect tool for the task, but it lacks (to my taste) a little feedback. Neither Kword or Abiword supports footnotes. For footnotes and WYSIWYG, you can use Lyx or OpenOffice. While OpenOffice has a somewhat strange UI (It was even worse in StarOffice 5.2, which tried to take control over your desktop) it has all features you mention and unlike Lyx, it *feels* like MS Word. Some features of MS Word is missing of course, and it a resource hog. My experience is with version 641C. I'm downloading build 641c right now. I would like to know if there is any issue with installing such a big program which is not a Debian package, regarding future maintenance, upgrade, uninstallation, etc. In the archives I've found some issues with the installation, but already solved anyway. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenOffice (was Re: Advice on wysiwyg editor)
I'm downloading build 641c right now. I would like to know if there is any issue with installing such a big program which is not a Debian package, regarding future maintenance, upgrade, uninstallation, etc. In the archives I've found some issues with the installation, but already solved anyway. There is not much to it, I think. The menu system will not know about it, so you will have to manually configure the windowmanager. I'm using it now, it's GREAT !! I've even imported a M$ Word document and it figured out all the formatting OK. Now I have another couple of questions... I can't use accented letters such as the spanish accents (áéíóú) even though the font is configured OK under X, it works in KWord and KMail for example. Is it possible to change the default dictionary (downloading and installing another one) ?? I have tried Icewm and KDE, the menus in OpenOffice works under both. I'm under KDE and it looks fine. Thanks for your help ! -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Advice on wysiwyg editor
Hi ! Well, I need a wysiwyg editor a la M$ Word. The documents I'll edit are more or less as complex as one see in papers, I mean, numbered schemes, headers, footers, inserted images and tables, page numbers, footnotes, text styles, chapters, TOCs, etc. So far I'm trying with Kword, Abiword and Lyx. Abiword is better that Kword at importing M$ Word documents. Lyx seems to be the perfect tool for the task, but it lacks (to my taste) a little feedback. OK, I'll admit it, I believe it's very powerful, but I find it UGLY :) Some sort of Print Preview would be very valuable. While I keep playing with those three, it'll be very useful to hear some advice. Thanks in advance !! -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Purging /var/cache/apt/archive
Hi ! I would like to purge /var/cache/apt/archive so that only the last version of each package is preserved. I'm not sure whether replying yes when dselect asks to delete previously downloaded files will preserve the last ones, but I guess it will not. The only clue I've found is in apt-get -h: clean - Erase downloaded archive files autoclean - Erase old downloaded archive files But now I'm not sure what old means for apt-get. Does it means the older when there are more than two versions of the same package or every package older N days? -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
Re: No puedo bootear Debian.
Hola Daniel ! En esta lista solamente se esribe en inglés, si quieres escribir en español intenta en la lista [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hola quisiera saber si alguien ha instalado, Debian Potato o Woody en un PPC o iMac, ya que yo no lo he conseguido tengo un iMac con las siguientes caracteristicas: Powerpc Apple iMac a 350 MHZ Open Firmwire 4.1.9 320 Mb de memoria 9.5 Gb Disco duro Bueno, además de la lista en español, creo que hay además una lista para usuarios de PowerPC, deberías intentarlo tambien en esa lista. Puedes buscar la dirección correcta de esa lista en www.debian.org, en la sección Mailing Lists, yo ahora no la recuerdo. Mucha suerte ! -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
Re: No puedo bootear Debian.
On Wednesday 31 December 1969 21:00, Daniel wrote: Yes, this is strange, I see a different date here... can somebody explain why ? -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
Re: inappropriate racist and other offensive material
On Sunday 17 March 2002 21:45, Tom Cook wrote: Any racism you perceive in either of those two statements is purely your own ignorance and knee-jerk political correctness. b.s.! making fun of someone else's skin color is patently wrong, and i don't care how you want to slice it or garnish it with red herring: I don't think I agree with this. Why is racism any different to snipped text here of our age. Why do people find a joke about, say, the way they walk offensive? Because they are not comfortable with it themselves! I am happy with people joking at the shape of my knees, because I don't mind what my knees look like; they serve their purpose passing well. I am happy with people joking at the clothes I wear; I choose my clothes because they keep me warm, or not as warm as the environment may demand. I am happy with people joking at my family; my family is among the best I have known, and I don't think they have a case to answer for the way they have brought me up. And I am happy with people joking at my religion, because I am confident that I will be justified in the day when Christ returns. Where am I going with this? I am not quite sure, but it seems to me that we are over-sensitive on some issues which don't deserve such extra consideration over others. I would like to make clear that there is, from my point of view at least, a big differency between 'patently wrong and offensive' and 'racism'. Or at least, there is a differency and the limit between them is not quite precise. If I just joke about the color of your skin or your religion, for example, you can be offended or, perhaps, you can even find the joke amusing. That depends on your sensibility. A joke about dead people can be either very amusing or devastating, depending on the very audience, if for example you lost a relative or loved one recently. Personally, I consider this can be of very bad taste but I don't think it's a crime. On the other hand, denying a job position or killing you merely because of the color of your skin _is_ racism, there is no joke at all about that and in many countries this is plain criminal. The fact that there have been (and there is still) so much cruelty associated to racism and other forms of discrimination turns the subject of the jokes into a very sensitive area. I'm from Argentina and I know what is it said about people from my country who try to make a better life emigrating to more developed countries. Very capable engineers and other professionals have to accept low skill jobs in unfair conditions, without legal contracts and being humiliated, in order to make a live. Almost surely I'm biased by the fact that I live in a third world country, but I feel strongly that been so touchy about offensive jokes and banning them is like sweeping the actual problems under the carpet. I don't care of jokes about my nationality, I'm concerned about equality of opportunities. When you are hungry, you don't care so much about jokes, you do care about food. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
Re: VERY OT: On Censorship.
On Friday 15 March 2002 22:29, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: For gods sake please drop it. This has NOTHING to do with debian in any sense, so please take it else where. I agree, this has nothing to do with Debian, but it's SO FUNNY !! :) -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
Re: VERY OT: On Censorship.
On Friday 15 March 2002 22:55, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: * Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: [ argument snipped ] You know Manoj, I've come to believe that moral majority people, even if they look decent and clueful otherwise, are simply incapable of understanding this kind of argument. Or any other kind, for that matter. Must be some faulty wiring in the brain (ours, most likely; otherwise we'd be the majority). Dima Dima, how can you be damn so concise and correct in all and every one of your posts in the last months ? But, alas, perhaps it's not a faulty wiring. I'm sure it's just because the religious memecomplex (http://www.lucifer.com/virus/memlex.html) has a higher fitness value in some particular social environments. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
Re: Is the list broken?
On Friday 15 March 2002 21:49, stan wrote: I've posted 3 messages today, and have yet to see any of them come back. If anyone sees this, could they email me? Thanks. I see it and CC'd to you to avoid any possible problem in the list. I guess it's on fire due to the current thread on inappropiate racism on Debian. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
Re: inappropriate racist and other offensive material
On Thursday 14 March 2002 02:04, Ben Collins wrote: I think it is unreasonable. That's like saying that the library has a right to burn books that it finds filthy or innappropriate. If you Perhaps, but please go into your library and tell me how many racist books are in there. I would be more than willing to bet that your average library does not go out of it's way to include offensive books. Tom Sawyer? This is only for informative purposes. The text is a list of books that were banned in the USA, an approximate span of time while remained banned, the library or university which considered it offensive and the reasons argumented. Interesting reading. http://www.flashback.se/archive/BOOKBANS.ASC -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
Garbage chars in KMail
Hi ! In many messages I see garbage instead of any kind of characters. I would like to know if it's possible to see them as characters but without changing the localisation configuration. The font I've currently selected is bitstream-courier. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
Re: latest Nvidia drivers
On Monday 11 March 2002 15:03, Florian Struck wrote: Unstable (SID) here ... same procedure. With a custom kernel it works as described in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel If you dont have a custom kernel you might need some extra crunching. Without the custom kernel i got it working (on 2.4.18-k7 precompiled) with following method : Well, this sort of answers my previous question, sorry for not reading the whole thread before posting. Just to be sure: I've compiled a 2.4.13 kernel some time ago, does 'custom kernel' simply refers to this kernel, or is there any specific kernel config I must consider? -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
Re: latest Nvidia drivers
On Sunday 10 March 2002 19:23, Phillip Deackes wrote: Roy Pluschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anybody else found that the latest Nvidia drivers 1.0-2802 don't work! I have a tnt2 running on a 2.4 kernel in testing. No - they work fine here - Riva TNT2, Debian Unstable, kernel 2.4.18. Did you install the Debian package and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc to build the nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx packages? (As opposed to the tar.gz package). I used the Debian packages and everyhting worked as it should. Hi, another question here: I've 'installed' the nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx .deb packages using dselect, but nothing else yet. Is it enough to follow the procedures given in the documentation (the README files in /usr/share/doc/nvidia*) or should I also recompile the kernel after that? My current kernel is 2.4.13. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
[DONE] Re: latest Nvidia drivers
On Monday 11 March 2002 15:03, Florian Struck wrote: Unstable (SID) here ... same procedure. With a custom kernel it works as described in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel Well, I felt sort of impatient and proceeded. The drivers are working OK, I tested them with the game chromium, it runs very fast. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
Re: Wheel mouse DIFFERENT PROBLEM
On Sunday 10 March 2002 04:47, Greg Murphy wrote: Hello, I've tried rebooting using gpm with the protocal imps2. Setting gpm to imps2 makes it bounce around the consol. Is it possible that it's not a imps2 mouse? It's got a wheel and it's plugged into the ps2 port! -Greg Murphy Check /usr/doc/xserver-xfree86/README.mouse.gz, there is a complete list of mice and the protocols that work with them. Perhaps you can try with some of those protocols. Good luck ! -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
Re: wheel mouse
On Sunday 10 March 2002 13:31, Nathan wrote: In all the posts i have seen so far there hasn't been a suggestion for Option Buttons 5 all of this works well for me in that combination. I hope this will be able to help you. Well... I restarted the xserver and it crashed. Perhaps there is any combination of this option and the other settings, as the protocol, that works OK, I'll keep trying. Thanks ! -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
Re: Boottime keymap
On Sunday 10 March 2002 18:41, Rick Macdonald wrote: I've renamed boottime.kmap.gz in /etc/console to boottime.kmap.gz.bak and copied es.kmap.gz in /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty to /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz, so that the spanish keymap loads every time I boot. Is this the right way to do it ? I think the right way is: # dpkg-reconfigure console-common ...RickM... Ooops... I guess you pressed the Send button too early ? -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
Re: Certificate printer software? / turboprint
On Friday 08 March 2002 19:50, Gary Turner wrote: The full version costs AFAIK EUR 20. (BTW, it often causes confusion that you have no English word for kostenlos / gratuit. Can't you invent one?) --- snipped Optionally we could adopt kostenlos as we have kaput, dumkopf, and blitzkrieg. Unlike the French, English speakers have no problem using/stealing the words that best do the job. :-) I've seen many times that English native speakers use the Spanish word gratis to mean free as in beer. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
Re: Wheel mouse
On Friday 08 March 2002 20:40, Bob Thibodeau wrote: The important parts for making the wheel work are Option Emulate3Buttons off Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Well, now at least it doesn't crash, but the wheel doesn't work. Which protocol are you using now? I switched mine from ps/2 to ImPS/2 the device stayed at /dev/psaux because I'm using the same port as my old mouse did Right now the protocol is set to Microsoft. I tried changing it to IMPS/2 and the pointer movement got completely crazy and unusable. -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
Re: Wheel mouse
On Saturday 09 March 2002 00:17, Kent West wrote: This is what I currently have (working well except for the wheel): Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option ProtocolIMPS/2 Option Device /dev/mouse #Option Emulate3Buttons Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Try commenting out the Emulate line (you have three buttons, so you don't need to emulate a third button). The IMPS/2 and ZAxisMapping line activate the scroll wheel. This assumes you're not running gpm and that /dev/mouse is a link to your actual mouse device (reasonable assumption, since you say it works well with your original configuration). Well, in fact gpm _is_ running. Using ps -ax I see it's started as: gpm -m /dev/psaux -t ps2 -Rms3 But the device in XF86Config-4 is /dev/mouse which in fact is a link to /dev/gpmdata. I'm completely puzzled... I'll try to look for and read about the relationships between gpm and the xserver. Thanks for your help ! -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
[ALMOST Solved] Re: Wheel mouse
On Saturday 09 March 2002 18:13, Stephen Ryan wrote: But the device in XF86Config-4 is /dev/mouse which in fact is a link to /dev/gpmdata. I'm completely puzzled... I'll try to look for and read about the relationships between gpm and the xserver. Thanks for your help ! Aha! This makes no end of sense. Your mouse is plugged into the PS/2 port, and gpm gets the input from it via /dev/psaux. gpm then converts the input from the mouse into Microsoft mouse format and passes it on to X via /dev/mouse aka /dev/gpmdata. Since it is the Microsoft mouse format, X goes insane when you specify the IMPS/2 protocol, which looks nothing like the Microsoft mouse protocol, and the scroll wheel never works, because the Microsoft mouse protocol doesn't support them. The fix should be simple - reconfigure gpm and change the repeat type from ms3 to raw, which should then just pass on everything via /dev/gpmdata to X. You then change the X configuration back to IMPS/2, which will then correctly recognize the scroll wheel. Well, I've changed gpm -m /dev/psaux -t ps2 -Rms3 to gpm -m /dev/psaux -t autops2 -Rraw In either case, you then change the X configuration back to IMPS/2 and set the ZAxisMapping and Emulate3Buttons lines as suggested before, which will then correctly recognize the scroll wheel because it's getting the raw data from the mouse, including the scroll wheel events. And here comes the funniest part: either I set the protocol to NetMousePS/2 or IMPS/2, the wheel now works... ONLY FORWARDS !! I mean, the scroll works as sliding down the scrollbar, not as sliding up. After spending (investing?) the whole evening trying to hack this (and some audio issues and a little perl script), I consider my hacking day finished. Now it's time for a beer, perhaps tomorrow I'll have more luck. Thanks everybody for your help !! -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
Boottime keymap
Hi ! I've renamed boottime.kmap.gz in /etc/console to boottime.kmap.gz.bak and copied es.kmap.gz in /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty to /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz, so that the spanish keymap loads every time I boot. Is this the right way to do it ? TIA -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
Wheel mouse
Hi ! I've searched through the archives looking for the correct configuration of a three wheel mouse (in my case, it's a Genius Optical NetScroll+ Eye PS/2) This is what I currently have (working well except for the wheel): Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option ProtocolMicrosoft Option Device /dev/mouse Option Emulate3Buttons EndSection And this is what I've found in an old post in the archives: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol IMPS/2 Option Device /dev/psaux Option Emulate3Buttons off Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Option CorePointer EndSection Of course I've changed the entry in ServerLayout from Mouse1 to Mouse0 when I tried the new config. The X server crashes and dumps me to the console. I've tried also changing device in the suggested config from /dev/psaux back to /dev/mouse as I have it working now, but to no avail. Any clues ? Thanks in advance ! -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
Re: Wheel mouse
On Friday 08 March 2002 18:03, Bob Thibodeau wrote: The important parts for making the wheel work are Option Emulate3Buttons off Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Well, now at least it doesn't crash, but the wheel doesn't work. I set mine up on the first try after following the advice at http://www.koala.ilog.fr/ (boy was I surprised!) Hmmm... Unknown host Why surprised ?? -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
Re: OT: Aliens in the heavans (was Re: seti@home)
On Thursday 07 March 2002 02:04, Ron Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 22:39, John Hasler wrote: You have neatly explained the miniscule size of the interstellar research budget. Come on, John. You can't blame it _all_ on the defence budget. Don't forget all those social programs, and WV needs a new Interstate hwy every 2 years... Can you please explain what do WV and bwy stands for ? I know this is way off-topic, but it's funny anyway and don't want to miss a thing :) -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
Re: suggestion
On Monday 04 March 2002 16:14, will trillich wrote: I do agree also, BTW how can I display some sort of Woody/testing besides version 3.0 ?? good question. anybody have the answer? (is there one? or are the code names for behind-the-scenes only?) if nothing else, you can hobble yuor script to say i like potato, you can keep your wood or some such (if that matches your philosophy). OK Will, I wired it by hand, I think it's nice... :) -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running the bleeding edge Debian Sid version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
Re: suggestion
On Saturday 02 March 2002 14:52, will trillich wrote: short version: why not have your .signature reflect which debian you're using? I do agree also, BTW how can I display some sort of Woody/testing besides version 3.0 ?? -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running Debian version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
Just about to woody == sid
Hi ! I'm just about to apt-get dist-upgrade from woody to sid and, since my box is working OK right now, would like to avoid any problem, I mean, broken packages and changes in configuration files. Any comments ?? Thanks in advance !! -- Daniel Toffetti --- 'There is no spoon...' - The Matrix Running Debian version 3.0 Linux luni 2.4.13 #1 SMP Sun Oct 28 18:30:53 ART 2001 i686 unknown
Re: consulta
On Sunday 24 February 2002 18:13, Patricia Guiñales wrote: Hola Patricia ! Tengo 33 años, desearía trabajar en una ciudad grande de Gran Bretaña, preferiblemente Londres, con el único objetivo de relacionarme y hablar ¡ por fin!en inglés; desgraciadamente no tengo mucho tiempo, y desearía saber cuanto tiempo es el mínimo y cuanto me costaría y cuando Me temo que este no es el mejor lugar para esa pregunta, esta lista trata sobre el sistema operativo Debian y los mensajes se envían en inglés, así que si escribes en español pocos entenderán lo que estás diciendo. Creo que lo mejor que puedes hacer es preguntar en algún grupo de Yahoo o en algún canal de chat de comunidades universitarias e intercambio de estudiantes o pasantías. Quizás ellos puedan orientarte mejor respecto de lo que estás buscando. Suerte ! Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Re: CDs y manuales de Debian
On Wednesday 09 January 2002 15:27, Carlos Parra wrote: Para comenzar, en esta lista de correo normalmente se habla en inglés, si quieren seguir escribiendo aquí deberían hacerlo en inglés y sino pueden escribir a la lista debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org También hemos visto que hay mucha información al respecto pero necesitamos alguien que nos oriente sin perdernos por el camino. ¿que nos recomiendan ustedes? Hay varios sitios con muchísima información en español acerca de Debian, como www.esdebian.org, laespiral.org, lucas.hispalinux.es, http://www.barrapunto.com/index.pl?section=debian, y muchos otros. Para comenzar, deberían conseguirse unos CDs de instalación fiables, una buena forma de obtenerlos es descargarlos directamente del sitio de debian http://www.debian.org/CD/ y grabarlos ustedes mismos. Además, es muy aconsejable que participen de alguna lista de correo donde realizar consultas en caso de que tengan problemas de instalación y/o configuración. Otra fuente muy importante de información son las man pages, los manuales, documentación y archivos LEAME, los HOWTOs (COMOs) que vienen en los CDs de instalación. Desde ya mucha suerte, pueden consultarme cuando lo deseen. Daniel Tandil, Argentina -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Re: Just wondering...
On Wednesday 02 January 2002 21:02, Craig Dickson wrote: 2. Provide enough information. This generally means as much as you can, while keeping your total message size down to a few hundred lines. A few hundred lines ?? I hope you were meaning either tens or words... :) Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Re: Iptables scripts
On Saturday 22 December 2001 00:50, Wayne Topa wrote: Daniel Toffetti([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: Hi all ! I need to set up some simple (to start with) iptables rules for masquerading and port forwarding. I guess I need to write some init script, put it in /etc/init.d/ and link it from some /etc/rcX.d/ Can somebody please point me to some specific documentation and example scripts ?? google, only if you want a whole bunch of examples. I've seen some time ago a bunch of examples pretty well classified according to intended functionality, but I couldn't find that site anymore. or netfilter.samba.org if you want to go to the source of iptables and read the howto's to really understand what you are doing. I did already, I don't deal with these issues daily so I learn more slowly than other users. I need to learn not only iptables but also boot sequence, init scripts and so on. This is why I look for more detailed and commented examples. Please format your text to 72 or less columns. I've configured KMail to wrap text at 72 chars long time ago following the suggestion of Mr. Karsten Self. I don't know what happened to this message but I moved it from draft to outbox a couple times, I guess perhaps there is some bug someplace there. Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Re: ????
On Saturday 22 December 2001 20:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: salve Salve ! il problema che non so nulla di questa sistema? vorrei sapere se avete la possibilitià di mandarmi informazioni su questa sistema via mail The official language of this mailing list is English, you have very little chances of getting any response if you keep posting here in Italian. Either write in English or try posting the same question to [EMAIL PROTECTED] l'installazione la configurazione l'hardware supportato amministrazione della macchina uso di Debian I suggest you to start with the installation instructions in www.debian.org and after you get Debian properly installed, there are lots of man pages and manuals in this distribution that you can install. Good luck !! Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Configuring dhcpd problem
Hi all ! I have a proxy and I want it to serve IP addresses to the internal network using dhcpd. /etc/dhcpd.conf describes the internal subnet only, which corresponds to the interface eth1. Looking in /var/log/daemon.log, dhcpd is complaining that there is no declaration for the subnet corresponding to interface eth0, which I don't want dhcpd to serve IP addresses to. I've been told to look in the script /etc/init.d/dhcp and add the interface I want dhcpd to listen to for IP requests, in my case eth1. Otherwise, it would try to listen on all interfaces, and then would fail since eth0 is not properly declared. But when I add eth1 like this: /usr/sbin/dhcpd -- -d eth1 the script fails at boottime and I need to restart from floppies to get back. From what I understand from man dhcpd, this should be a perfectly valid option. The booting process stops just after starting anacron, where it should start dhcpd. What is the problem now ?? Any ideas ?? What else can I do to track the problem ?? Thanks in advance, Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Re: What's a debian kid look like?
On Wednesday 19 December 2001 04:24, Matt wrote: Who are we here? I'm curious about what the Debian demographic is. I know this is sort of an impossible thing to answer, but it'd be interesting to explore in vague terms who uses Debian, at least compared to those who don't. 31 years old single white male from Argentina, Systems Engineer, some years developing in Visual Basic, DB2, C, Java, etc, recently unemployed. I enjoy very much various kind of music, from ethnic to punk to pop rock to tecno, I hope some day I'll learn to play guitar decently. Also lots of reading, mostly latin american and european literature and some sci-fi and fantasy. Many years playing role playing games both in table and by mail. Linux is a good alternative for developing countries who cannot afford the expensive licenses of propietary software, specially in areas such as government, education and health. I started using Debian some 16 months ago, after trying for a while another distros such as Red Hat, Mandrake and SuSE. Hard to learn but you get the guts of the thing. Currently searching for a new job or, in the worst case, for a new country where to live in (some 20% unemployment rate here and getting worse). Cheers, Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Re: Configuring dhcpd problem
On Friday 21 December 2001 15:00, you wrote: from my /etc/init.d/dhcp which i have doing what you want start) start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --pidfile $DHCPDPID \ --exec /usr/sbin/dhcpd eth1 -- -q Opsss, sorry but this didn't worked either. It keeps hanging the boot process. In case it is an useful clue, if I press Ctrl-Alt-Del then, the standard reboot process begins, sending KILL signal and terminating all processes. So it doesn't locks the box, but only gets stuck in dhcpd. Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Iptables scripts
Hi all ! I need to set up some simple (to start with) iptables rules for masquerading and port forwarding. I guess I need to write some init script, put it in /etc/init.d/ and link it from some /etc/rcX.d/ Can somebody please point me to some specific documentation and example scripts ?? Thanks in advance !! Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
[SOLVED] Re: Configuring dhcpd problem
On Friday 21 December 2001 21:54, Daniel Toffetti wrote: I was using the option -d which syslogs debug info, and that is what caused the daemon to fail, without this option it works well. Strange feature indeed... Daniel On Friday 21 December 2001 15:00, you wrote: from my /etc/init.d/dhcp which i have doing what you want start) start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --pidfile $DHCPDPID \ --exec /usr/sbin/dhcpd eth1 -- -q Opsss, sorry but this didn't worked either. It keeps hanging the boot process. In case it is an useful clue, if I press Ctrl-Alt-Del then, the standard reboot process begins, sending KILL signal and terminating all processes. So it doesn't locks the box, but only gets stuck in dhcpd. Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Error compiling kernel 2.4.13
Hi all ! I'm getting the following error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type when compiling kernel 2.4.13. This error appears in many functions in the files fs.h and locks.h. I've configured the kernel for supporting NFS. Before exhaustively trying to check in/out each NFSs option and compiling again, I would like to know if there is some known issue with the NFSs options. In case it is important, the processor type is 486 and I'm using kernel-package. Thanks in advance for any help !! Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Re: installazione
On Friday 14 December 2001 21:10, nino lambra wrote: Hi Nino ! The official language of this list is english, you will receive very few or no answers if you keep posting in italian. Alternatively, you can post in italian to the list debian-italian@lists.debian.org desideravo provare il sistema linux ho la versione easy linux - la debian 2.2 ma come si fa ad installarle basta dare il setup ? It is not quite clear to me if your distribution is EasyLinux (www.easylinux.com, but the server seems to be down now) or Debian. If you have an EasyLinux distribution, you should ask for help in an specific EasyLinux mailing list. Please clarify this point. ho un disco rigido partizionato appositamente , in c e in d c ospita win 98 volevo mettere linux sull'altra partizione ma come si fà? le istruzioni sembrano dicano di copiare il file img su floppy e partire con quello ma a me non parte nulla mi dice disco non di sistema .mi potete aiutare ? How did you copied the file img to the diskette ?? What is the complete name of the file you copied ?? Please report back with more details. Good luck !! Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Re: Kmail bug
On Friday 14 December 2001 08:50, Heilig (Cece) Szabolcs wrote: I have the same problem, that fix did'nt helps me out. I saw also the mailboxes in text-editor. I don't know why, the downloaded mailbox contains random newline chars, sometimes 2 newline chars. An example: I also have the same problem, tried deleting the .index files and that not only failed to solve the problem, but also seems to have made some messages dissapear... very strange indeed... Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Kernel config: make menuconfig: cannot find ncurses
Hi all ! I'm trying to compile a new (2.4.13) kernel on an old 486 box. When I try to configure it with make menuconfig I get the following error: = Start of the error message = rm -f include/asm ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm) make -C scripts/lxdialog all make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog' /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -Incurses collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Unable to find the Ncurses libraries. You must have Ncurses installed in order to use 'make menuconfig' make[1]: *** [ncurses] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts/lxdialog' make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2 = End of the error message = So, 'make menuconfig' claims that ncurses is not installed. Searching for 'ncurses' in dselect shows that libncurses5, ncurses-base, ncurses-bin and ncurses-term are installed. libncurses5-dev and libncurses5-dbg are not installed. The box is a recent potato installation upgraded to woody, running as a proxy. This is the first time I try to compile the kernel on this machine, and I never had problems compiling the kernel before on other boxes. I use kernel-package. Any help on this ?? Thanks in advance !! Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Network config problem
On Monday 10 December 2001 19:39, Mark Ferlatte wrote: Reading again /etc/init.d/dhcp I see the following: # Add all interfaces you want dhcpd to handle here Change the lines in /etc/init.d/dhcp that look like start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --pidfile $DHCPDPID \ --exec /usr/sbin/dhcpd to start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --pidfile $DHCPDPID \ --exec /usr/sbin/dhcpd -- eth0 eth1 That solved my problem, now everything works as I expected. Thanks Michael and Mark ! Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Re: Problems upgrading kernel
On Sunday 09 December 2001 18:58, William P Martin wrote: Running dslelect and getting kernel-source-2.4.14.tar.bz2 bunzip2 and untar the source menuconfig make-kpkg -rev cusotm.1 kernel_image dpkg --install newkernelimage.deb Then I reboot. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Please keep posting about your problem and discoveries, I'm installing a Potato proxy which uses DHCP as client to get an IP from the ISP and as server to assign internal IPs to my internal network. I got it working (thanks to people on this list) and upgraded to woody yesterday, the next step is recompiling my old kernel to a new 2.4.13. I'm sure you can get better help if you provide more feedback. Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Re: Homework
On Monday 10 December 2001 14:01, Nicolás Conde wrote:
So, without wanting to ofend anyone, before you post a question
1. RTFM (Read The Friendly Manual)
2. Search the {archives | HOW-TOs}
3. Ask your local {Linux | Unix} guru (if you have one)
and if this doesn't help (which I doubt) drop some lines to this
list. Thanks all, enjoy Linux.
La verdad te hara libre, pero antes te hara enojar.
Anonimo.
Me pregunto qué tan enojado estarás ahora.
Daniel
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There is no spoon... - The Matrix
[PART-SOLVED] Re: Network config problem
On Sunday 09 December 2001 16:24, Michael Heldebrant wrote: It's strange to me that 'pump -i eth1 --status' shows correctly the gateway (10.7.2.1), nameservers, etc. So I tried to add the two missing entries, and it failed. root: route add default gw 10.7.2.1 dev eth1 SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable and: root: route add 10.7.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.255 dev eth1 dboostrap_settings: Unknown host I guess perhaps the initialization scripts also tried to set up the correct routing entries and failed. Firstly, are you supposed to be sending pump as your hostname to request to your dhcp server? hostname pump in your eth1 stanza does exactly that. Yes, this is the way the hosts in my internal network were configured, and the proxy (with the old distro I used) assigned them properly internal IPs of the 192.168.0.0 subnet. then adding the default gateway? If pump continually doesn't work I'd consider trying dhclient. Pump always screwed up on my multiple iface machine. It would never rebind for me. Dhclient is much nicer in that respect. I replaced pump for dhclient, and it worked smoothly. Now the routing table in the proxy looks exactly like the one of the old distro I used before, I can ping outside and (almost) everything seems to work OK. But now (and this is why I say PART-SOLVED) the internal hosts are not assigned a valid internal IP from the proxy via pump. I even copied the file dhcpd.conf from my old proxy to the new, tried changing from pump to dhcpcd in the internal hosts, to no avail... I'm still trying to understand what is the difference and what has changed, so I cannot give better symptoms yet and will post again soon. Thanks for your help !! Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Re: [PART-SOLVED] Re: Network config problem
On Monday 10 December 2001 16:23, Daniel Toffetti wrote: But now (and this is why I say PART-SOLVED) the internal hosts are not assigned a valid internal IP from the proxy via pump. I even copied the file dhcpd.conf from my old proxy to the new, tried changing from pump to dhcpcd in the internal hosts, to no avail... I'm still trying to understand what is the difference and what has changed, so I cannot give better symptoms yet and will post again soon. Now I got a clue. I've copied the file dhcpd.conf, but forgot to configure /etc/init.d/dhcp to make dhcpd actually start at boottime. As detailed therein, I've set run_dhcpd = 1 and executed: root:/etc/init.d/dhcp start But it fails complaining that I must describe _all_ subnets in /etc/dhcpd.conf. But, hey, I don't want dhcpd to serve request coming from eth1 !! Reading again /etc/init.d/dhcp I see the following: # Add all interfaces you want dhcpd to handle here My best guess is: since I haven't added interfaces there, the script/daemon assumes 'all', and since the subnet correspoding to eth1 is not described in /etc/dhcpd.conf, it complains it should be. Am I right ?? I haven't tried adding what interfaces I want dhcpd to handle since I don't know what is the proper syntax (there is no example in /etc/init.d/dhcp). Thanks again !! Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Re: Network config problem
On Sunday 09 December 2001 02:53, Michael Heldebrant wrote: You want: auto ethWHATEVER iface inet dhcp ethWHATEVER instead of static dhcp which, I'm not even sure how it would be parsed by ifup. ifconfig should tell you if your interface iseven being brought up. My fault here, sorry, it is if fact configured that way: iface eth1 inet dhcp hostname pump I read 'static' form the interface eth0 and wrote things down wrong. Assuming it's coming up and has an ip address, check your As far as I can tell from ifconfig's output, it's up and has the correct IP, broadcast and netmask. /var/dhcp/dhclient.leases file for a routers entry. If you have no My system is now Potato 2.2r0 and this file doesn't even exist. Note that I'm using pump as dhcp client, I don't know if this is relevant. Querying pump for the status of the interface (pump -i eth1 --status) shows that eth1 is fully configured. route add default ethWHATEVER This is a good clue !! My old one-diskette system has a routing table like this: Destination Gateway NetmaskIface 10.7.2.1 *255.255.255.255eth1 192.168.0.0*255.255.255.0 eth0 200.70.32.0*255.255.255.0 eth1 default10.7.2.1 0.0.0.0eth1 The recently installed Potato system's table has: Destination Gateway NetmaskIface localnet *255.255.255.0 eth0 200.70.32.0*255.255.255.0 eth1 It's strange to me that 'pump -i eth1 --status' shows correctly the gateway (10.7.2.1), nameservers, etc. So I tried to add the two missing entries, and it failed. root: route add default gw 10.7.2.1 dev eth1 SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable and: root: route add 10.7.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.255 dev eth1 dboostrap_settings: Unknown host I guess perhaps the initialization scripts also tried to set up the correct routing entries and failed. Any further suggestions ?? Thanks for your help !! Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Re: Problems upgrading kernel
On Sunday 09 December 2001 18:58, William P Martin wrote: I have been trying to upgrade both a woody box and a sid box to a 2.4 kernel (2.4.16 and 2.4.14 respectively). I use make-kpkg and If your old kernel was of the 2.2.x series, then you should upgrade some packages to a newer version, this is documented within the kernel source, in /Documentation/Changes. Check the version of your packages. Hope this helps, Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Network config problem
Hi all ! I've a small diskless proxy booting from a floppy based distro called Coyote. Now I've got an old HDD and I'm installing Debian Potato, but I'm failing to get the access to the Net working. Right now I get the external interface be assigned the valid IP address as before, configuring it as 'static dhcp - hostname pump' in /etc/interfaces. But when I try _any_ ping (any but my own address and localhost, of course), it fails with a Network is unreachable message. It's strange to me that the ping fails, but the names are correctly resolved to their respective IPs. I hope this is a good enough description of my problem. I'm not any expert, so it's possible I'm missing something shamely (is this an english word ?) obvious, I'm tired of reading many HOWTOs and rebooting once and againg without success. Thanks in advance !! Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Re: Network config problem
On Saturday 08 December 2001 16:58, ben wrote: Right now I get the external interface be assigned the valid IP address as before, configuring it as 'static dhcp - hostname pump' in /etc/interfaces. But when I try _any_ ping (any but my own address and localhost, of course), it fails with a Network is unreachable message. It's strange to me that the ping fails, but the names are correctly resolved to their respective IPs. shouldn't the path be /etc/network/interfaces? You are right, this is the correct name of the file, anyway this is of no much help to solve my problem... ::)) Thanks ! Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Re: Kmail problems - please reply offlist
The fourth, problem and the one I want help with now, is that when I pop (pop3) messages from our mail server, the downloaded messages appear to have two carriage returns inserted into them at 0 or more random points. This is a BIG problem because when you get two carriage returns in the headers, KMail (and the filters) take this as meaning that the headers are over, thus you cannot filter these messages by any of the herader fields. So I wound up with 600 messages in a folder, 95% of which were from debian-user and mysql mailing lists, and two or three which were urgent or important, almost all with From, To, and Subject fields set to Nobody or Nothing. I'm having more or less the same problem. I'm not so much hurried up to solve this problem, but I guess my folders are completely messed-up and I'll need to purge them once the bug gets fixed, and this is very unpleasant. Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Python and python-base dependency problems
Hi All ! Since yesterday I'm having dependency problems with python and python-base. Dselect wants me to remove Koffice. Can somebody give me a clue ?? Thanks all ! Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Re: Problemi con kernel.
Salve, le scrivo poiché ho la necessità di ricompilare il kernel il modo da condividere una porzione del mio filesystem nonché di installare la scheda audio. Purtoppo incorro comtinuamentein questo errore. Per favore aiutatemi. Scusi non parlo italiano. If you need to recompile the kernel, install and try the package kernel-package. It makes the task of compiling and installing a new kernel very simple. Also note that if you are running a Potato based system, you will need to upgrade many other packages in order for them to work properly with the new 2.4.x kernels. You can also have help in italian if you post your question in the list debian-user-italian. Good luck !! Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Frequent problems with non-us ??
Hi all ! I'm having problems when doing 'apt-get update' using the mirror ftp://non-us.debian.org woody/non-us Should I keep trying, are there other mirrors, anything else ? Thanks ! Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
OFF-TOPIC Opening and converting .pm4 files
Hi all ! Please excuse me for this off-topic. I need to convert some very old .pm4 files (Aldus Pagemaker) to whatever else format, say .html for example. The target format is not important as long as I can open it or convert it again, or at least print it, so .html, .doc, .ps, .pdf or even .txt would be OK. I tried a Google search and apt-cache search to no avail. Thanks !! Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Re: OT: IPtables maillinglist
Does anyone know of a good firewall maillinglist and faq? Tarjei Look in http://netfilter.samba.org/ Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Re: Kde
On Wednesday 31 October 2001 18:59, Denis wrote: Molto lieto di parlare con voi. Salve, mi chiamo Denis, ho installato da poco Linux nel mio pc, ho scelto la distribuzione Debian 2.1. Ho installato il sistema operativo senza però l'interfaccia grafica. Ora, terminata la configurazione di rete, modem, scheda video, ho deciso di montarvi sopra l'interfaccia Kde 2.2.1 che ho saputo essere uscita da poco. Nn riesco però ad identificare l'url esatto dal quale farne il download. Per cortesia mi potete aiutare? Salve e buon lavoro. Omaggi a Linux, patrimonio dell'umanità. Denis Gottardello You don't specify if this is your first Linux installation, I'll assume this is the case. Unless you know what you are doing, my advice is that you keep using the Debian packages. If you find that the KDE packages provided within your CDs are too old, then you better upgrade Debian to a newer release like Woody or Sid. If you don't know how to do this, just keep asking. Note also that you should post to this list in english as this is the language spoken by most of its users. Otherwise you should check if there exist a Debian mailing list in Italian. Daniel Toffetti -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Fwd: Re: Propossed Project: Odyssey
Sorry I forgot to send this to the list too... Does somebody know anything about any common format for configuration files? Does any sense to propose this, somebody knows if there are references of this in Linux Standard Base ? Do makes any sense even the sole idea of such format ? ASCII text? There's some commonality about using # to start comments. Friendly programs give verbose examples and descriptions in the examples. :) Perhaps I failed to make clear my point... I meant a common metalanguage, so that it could be possible to write one single application as interface to handle any config file. Think of .ini files, but with some capabilities to express more complex data formats. Optionality, multiplicity, one among many choices, one or more among many choices, something like this... The possible configurations should be expressed in a template file. I think it would be pretty to type 'config name_of_config_file' and it opens a text-mode or graphic-mode interface allowing an easy navigation through config options (radio buttons, multiple selections, free text fields) labeled with the to-be-configured attribute. Any properly defined configuration template should be accepted by this 'config' application, and an actual configuration file should be generated and saved from the user selections. I know debconf allows configuration of packages, but I don't know the details and if it can be generalized to use in everyday configs. Does such a monster makes sense ?? Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix --- -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Re: Propossed Project: Odyssey
| I meant a common metalanguage, so that it could be possible to | write one single application as interface to handle any config | file. | You should take a look at gconf and its derivatives. The idea is | a common configuration/registry-like interface for applications | and any number of different backends. This is more or less what I was trying to describe, thanks. Besides 'any number of different backends' it would be great to have (at least) one common data format, not just the interface, so that developers can specify the config options for their applications in that format. | Damn. I had a link to some good gconf developer stuff (including | rational), but I can't find it now... I'd like to see a rationale and an explanation of how this data is stored peristently. I'm not sure I like the gconf idea. Just recall the MS Windows' registry. One thing I _really_ like about *nix systems is the ability to use my text editor to configure everything. But it doesn't need to be changed. I'm sure it's possible to define some plain-text format. Today I see config files using key=value, XML and other formats. It only takes to agree on some common standard and keep the plain text. I also like including comments so that I can remember why I did a certain thing or some syntax or option stuff so I don't have to pour through the docs next time. This was one of my points. If you can define sort of a template for the config file, describing the possible values for each item, this is kind of 'self-describing' and helps to understand the configuration options. Daniel -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Config file for kernel compilation
Hi all ! I'm ready to compile and install the new kernel 2.4.13 in my box. I've done it before without problems, but now I want to know if it is safe to load a config file from an older version. make xconfig allows (I guess all other config interfaces do it as well) to load config options from a config file, and my current kernel and options file are version 2.4.3 May I safely load this option file and then make any further change a might want ?? Thanks in advance ! Daniel PS: I fear I did a mess with some verbs in this message, please excuse me for it can be ugly to read, perhaps it is time to stop been autodidact and take some formal lessons... :) -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
Cybercafe software
Hi again ! I've been asked if I know any decent software tailored to tha administrative duties of a cybercafe. Does somebody know something alike, open source and free beer ??? BTW, does the word cybercafe is so much widely used in different languages as I believe ?? Daniel PS: Sort of linguistic restlessness today... :) -- There is no spoon... - The Matrix
