Re: recs1440.bin boot fails in SCSI init

1999-09-04 Thread David Bristel
I don't know if this is the source of your problem, but I have found that the
WD7000 auto-probe will die when there is an Adaptec SCSI controller in the
system.  This is a BIOS issue, not a controller issue.  

Dave Bristel


On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Tom Kuiper wrote:

> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 19:05:21 PDT
> From: Tom Kuiper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: recs1440.bin boot fails in SCSI init
> Resent-Date: 4 Sep 1999 02:12:15 -
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> While booting an AST Premmia LX P/60 from a resc1440.bin or resc1440-safe.bin
> disk (images from the official 2.1 CD-ROM) the booting hangs during the SCSI
> initialization.  It gets this far:
> ...
> (scsi0)  found at PCI 14/0
> (scsi0) Narrow Channel, SCSI ID=7, 16/255 SCBs
> (scsi0) Downloading sequencer code... 412 instructions.
> 
> The same computer boots fine from a previous COL 1.1 kernel on its (SCSI)
> hard disk.  In that case the SCSI driver is identified as aic7xxx.
> 
> An almost identical machine (more meomory, IDE hard disk) works fine from a
> Slackware kernel which is a little over a year old and also uses the aic7xxx
> driver.
> 
> I would be grateful for suggestion on working around this problem.
> 
> Tom Kuiper
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Re: will you be at linuxworld?

1999-07-27 Thread David Bristel
I can help set up, but can't promise to be there during the week.  Work sucks
that way.

Dave Bristel


On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:59:23 -0500
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> To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: will you be at linuxworld?
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> This is the first and last call for anytone who plans to be at linuxworld
> expo and is a developer or wants to help man the debian booth there. I can
> get such people exhibitor's badges, which gets you into the show floor free.
> Just mail me within 24 hours.
> 
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> see shy jo
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Re: Beta-testing and the glibc 2.1 (Was: Missing ldd? Have libc6 on hold? Get ldso from slink...

1999-03-17 Thread David Bristel
This is a good point, and it actually leads to an interesting idea for a package
that would take care of this issue.  Now, this is NOT an easy project, but, what
about a package that has a list of the config files for ALL the packages, and
would back up what is needed to restore a system to normal from a clean install?
To have just the shadow, passwd, and the confs for all the different packages,
we could back up just these files.  Then, reinstall from scratch, ignore
configurations, because the restore of the config files would handle it all.
Some would say that this should be handled manually, but it would make it nice,
and it's something that no other distribution has considered doing.  Having to
manually back up "key files" is a major nuisance.

Dave Bristel
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On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, Seth M. Landsman wrote:

> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 15:22:59 -0500
> From: "Seth M. Landsman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Robert Woodcock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Edward Betts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Beta-testing and the glibc 2.1 (Was: Missing ldd? Have libc6 on 
> hold? Get ldso from slink...
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> > > > If you need your machine for "real work" then you shouldn't be running
> > > > unstable.
> > > 
> > >   If debian unstable isn't tested on machines used for real work,
> > > debian is going to end up a toy distribution which is only suitable for
> > > work on systems which aren't appropriate for real work.
> > 
> > If your only PC to do "real work" on is running an ever-changing,
> > developer-suited version of Debian, then you're really asking for some
> > "mission-critical" failures.  Not having at least a fairly recent backup
> > before upgrading critical libraries is ridiculous, and it doesn't take a
> > developer to know that (I offer myself as evidence on that point).
> 
>   Okay, let's not turn this into a flame war.  My point is that
> breakages in unstable are *REALLY BAD THINGS*.  Yes, they happen, but the
> attitude that this one comes with is one of "it's your problem for trying
> unstable, not ours".  If you manage to alienate the community of people
> who do real work, debian won't be tested on real work machines and won't
> be as stable as it should be.  You haven't addressed this point.
>   Oh, and my 20 gig DDS is in the shop.  Sorry, telling people "back
> up often" is getting less realistic.  The fact is, my important stuff is
> backed up in five places, but reinstalling is still a pita.
> 
> > Hell, I got bit by a similar problem when Slink had been frozen for
> > several weeks (that __register_frame_info business). I had a backup; one
> > rescue floppy and a massive 'tar -zxvpf' later, I was back in business.
> > 
> > Yes, potato needs to undergo real-world testing. So if you have an extra
> > machine, run your real work in parallel on potato and slink. But to place
> > so much trust in others' testing that you'll put your vital stuff solely
> > on potato is probably overoptimistic and misguided. 
> 
>   Most people don't have that extra machine sitting around.  
> 
> -Seth
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Re: ANNOUNCE: debian party in San Jose, Marth 3rd

1999-03-03 Thread David Bristel
The location I suggest for the party tomorrow night is at Chili's.  The
atmosphere is good, not too loud, not too soft, and the food is fairly decent.
>From the show, it's also fairly easy to get to.  Directions to the one I'm
the most familiar with are as follows: 

>From the Expo Center, take 280 north(toward San Francisco)

On 280, take the 880(north) exit.  As you come off the ramp, you will have the
option to continue to the right to go onto 880, or to go straight.  Go straight,
then take the next right, which will bring you to Steven's Creek.

At the end of the ramp is a traffic light.  Make a right at the light(onto
Steven's Creek).

Take a left onto Winchester Blvd(the third light I think).

Chili's will be on the left hand side, approximately 1/8th-1/4 mile down
Winchester.



I will be at the show at 9am tomorrow morning, and will be at or around the
booth most of the day.  If anyone has any questions, feel free to stop by and
ask.  See ya there.


Dave Bristel
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 On Sun, 28 Feb 1999, Joey Hess wrote:

> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 22:54:59 -0800
> From: Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> To: Bay Area Debian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, debian-user@lists.debian.org,
> debian-devel@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ANNOUNCE: debian party in San Jose, Marth 3rd
> 
> All debian people in town for LinuxWorld Expo are invited to a party,
> following the expo on Wednesday, March 3rd. We will be going out to a
> restraunt or some other venue in San Jose (to be determined, suggestions
> welcome), and celebrating the release of debian 2.1 (or if it isn't released
> on time, just celebrating). A featured guest is Wichert Akkerman, leader of
> the debian project.
> 
> To attend, stop by the Debian booth (#1445) on Wednesday just before the
> expo closes, at 6pm. We will gather there and drive to the party location.
> Or drop by our website at http://kitenet.net/~bad/linuxworld.html in the
> next few days for further details.
> 
> Attention debian developers and developers to be: bring your pgp keys!
> 
> -- 
> see shy jo
> 


Re: LWE directions from Sacramento

1999-03-01 Thread David Bristel
Also www.zip2.com can also provide directions.

Dave


On Mon, 1 Mar 1999, George Bonser wrote:

> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 02:14:02 -0800 (PST)
> From: George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: Paul Nathan Puri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Jonathan Walther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, debian-user@lists.debian.org,
> Bay Area Debian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, debian-devel@lists.debian.org,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: LWE directions from Sacramento
> 
> On Mon, 1 Mar 1999, Paul Nathan Puri wrote:
> 
> > Could someone point me to a url describing the location (i.e.,
> > directions).  I'm coming from Sacramento.  Thanks...
> > 
> 
> www.mapquest.com should give you door-door directions.
> 
> 
> 


Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-27 Thread David Bristel
Well, if you wanted to get into downtown San Jose from Caltrain, you can take
Caltrain into Santa Clara.  From there, hop the 60 bus north to the end of the
line, which connects to Light Rail.  Unfortunately, light rail is currently
being extended, so there's a shuttle bus that will take you from there into
downtown San Jose.  It's painful, but that's one way to get into San Jose from
Cal Train.

Dave


On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, George Bonser wrote:

> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:47:36 -0800 (PST)
> From: George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: Kevin Dalley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> David Welton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org,
> Bay Area Debian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Intent to Party like its 1999
> 
> On 27 Feb 1999, Kevin Dalley wrote:
> 
> > There is mass transit in much of the Bay Area.  Personally, I would
> > prefer Oakland on Monday.  It's closer for Joey (and just
> > coincidentally for me).  There are a number of nice pubs near BART.
> > Unfortunately, south bay people don't have real mass transit.
> > 
> 
> The only thing we have is Cal-Train. That probably means that if people do
> not want to drive, you are limited to the Penninsula or SF proper ...
> CoffeeNet is not far from the Cal-Train station and the new Embarcadero
> extention of Muni should get you near there from the Embarcadero BART. I
> think the last Cal-Train leaves at around 11:30pm that heads south so
> again, there are limitations.
> 
> Amtrak runs from Great America to Emeryville but there are few trains.
> 
> Driving to the East Bay from SJ is a nightmare because of the 880/237
> interchange or the bridges, they are jammed from everyone leaving Silicon
> Valley after work. People tend to forget how spread out the Bay Area
> really is.
> 
> 
> 


Re: Intent to Party like its 1999

1999-02-27 Thread David Bristel
While I am also in San Jose, I'd say that we may want to have two parties, one
down here in San Jose for those staying down this way, and for those who live
or are staying further north to have a party up there.  Just a thought...


Dave


On Sat, 27 Feb 1999, Chris Waters wrote:

> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 11:41:49 -0800
> From: Chris Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Kevin Dalley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org,
> Bay Area Debian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Intent to Party like its 1999
> 
> Disclaimer: I live in San Jose.  :-)
> 
> But still, if this is supposed to be a post-Linuxworld gettogether,
> wouldn't it make the most sense to have it *near* Linuxworld? 
> Convenient for people visiting the area for Linuxworld and staying in
> nearby {h,m}otels, convenient for people attending Linuxworld from
> around the bay.  Inconvenient only for those who aren't going to
> Linuxworld and aren't nearby.
> 
> If this *isn't* really supposed to be a post-Linuxworld gettogether (I'm
> a little confused, since I think this thread started with a mention of
> the *IRC* party), then maybe Oakland or SF would be reasonable.  But in
> that case, I'd like to propose that we have one or more post-Linuxworld
> gettogethers near Linuxworld.  The south bay has plenty of nice spots. 
> Do we want coffee, bheer, or bhoth?
> 
> Traffic is another issue, and one that would tend to suggest that we not
> go too far from the convention center till later, i.e. *after* the
> gettogether when we're heading toward home (or temporary equivalent). 
> Bay area traffic is extremely bad, if not world-class bad quite yet
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