Re: Logitech Quickcam Communicate STX
David Dawson wrote: > Logitech Quickcam Communicate STX: > > After a recent upgrade to Debian Testing, support for this camera has been > downgraded, with the result that VLC can now only display the stream at a > much lower resolution. > > Formerly the resolution was an acceptable 640x480, now it is only 320x240. > > Suspecting the spca5xx driver, I downgraded it to the level in Debian > Stable, but this is evidently not the issue. > > The camera ID (lsusb) is: 046d:08ad Logitech, Inc. > > Does anybody have an Idea how to get back the lost resolution? > Is this a Debian issue or upstream? > > Thanks Well, the issue was resolved in a more recent upgrade. -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig, you both get dirty and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Logitech Quickcam Communicate STX
Logitech Quickcam Communicate STX: After a recent upgrade to Debian Testing, support for this camera has been downgraded, with the result that VLC can now only display the stream at a much lower resolution. Formerly the resolution was an acceptable 640x480, now it is only 320x240. Suspecting the spca5xx driver, I downgraded it to the level in Debian Stable, but this is evidently not the issue. The camera ID (lsusb) is: 046d:08ad Logitech, Inc. Does anybody have an Idea how to get back the lost resolution? Is this a Debian issue or upstream? Thanks -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig, you both get dirty and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mike Capture not working in Debian Testing/Creative Live Soundblaster
Chris Lale wrote:
> David Dawson wrote:
>> Chris Lale wrote:
>>
>>> David Dawson wrote:
>>>> I'm running Debian Testing and the mike capture recently stopped
>>>> working. The card is a Creative Soundblaster Live.
>>>> The problem is that the system will not allow any app to get mike
>>>> audio. On the other hand I *can* get mike audio through the card if I
>>>> switch on the mixer monitor.
>>>> I tried setting things with Alsamixer, but no go.
>>>> The sound system in the kernel (Debian 2.6.18-K7) is Alsa.
>>> It may be worth checking your hardware [1]. If your motherboard has
>>> built-in sound, this may have been detected by Alsa as the default. It
>>> will thus be expecting your mike to be plugged into the integrated sound
>>> mic socket.
>> Thanks, but actually the on-board sound is disabled and that would also
>> apply to the speaker and line input.
>>> [1]
>>>
>>
[http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Sound_in_Debian_GNU/Linux#Check_your_hardware
>>
>
> Are you using Gnome? In the past I have had problems with the ESD. Try
> turning it off:
>
> Desktop -> Sound -> Enable software sound mixing (ESD) [untick this box].
>
> You may need to restart X before this takes effect (ctrl-alt-backspace).
>
I just finished playing around with Alsamixer again and lo-and-behold the
capture is working. Just had to activate the AC97 capture maybe. I dunno.
I'm shaking my head {:)
Thanks for your interest, Chris.
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Re: Mike Capture not working in Debian Testing/Creative Live Soundblaster
Chris Lale wrote: > David Dawson wrote: >> Chris Lale wrote: >> >>> David Dawson wrote: >>>> I'm running Debian Testing and the mike capture recently stopped >>>> working. The card is a Creative Soundblaster Live. >>>> The problem is that the system will not allow any app to get mike >>>> audio. On the other hand I *can* get mike audio through the card if I >>>> switch on the mixer monitor. >>>> I tried setting things with Alsamixer, but no go. >>>> The sound system in the kernel (Debian 2.6.18-K7) is Alsa. >>> It may be worth checking your hardware [1]. If your motherboard has >>> built-in sound, this may have been detected by Alsa as the default. It >>> will thus be expecting your mike to be plugged into the integrated sound >>> mic socket. >> Thanks, but actually the on-board sound is disabled and that would also >> apply to the speaker and line input. >>> [1] >>> >> [http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Sound_in_Debian_GNU/Linux#Check_your_hardware >> > > Are you using Gnome? In the past I have had problems with the ESD. Try > turning it off: No, I'm using KDE (arts) and I have set the system to autosuspend after 1 second. It's worth noting that the sound card driver allows opening /dev/dsp (or alsa default) 7 times. So, for instance, I can be listening to music with Xmms and still hear announcements from Saytime. Really, Autosuspend is unnecessary. Nope, It's just the mike capture not working. > > Desktop -> Sound -> Enable software sound mixing (ESD) [untick this box]. > > You may need to restart X before this takes effect (ctrl-alt-backspace). > -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig, you both get dirty and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mike Capture not working in Debian Testing/Creative Live Soundblaster
Chris Lale wrote: > David Dawson wrote: >> I'm running Debian Testing and the mike capture recently stopped working. >> The card is a Creative Soundblaster Live. >> The problem is that the system will not allow any app to get mike audio. >> On the other hand I *can* get mike audio through the card if I switch on >> the mixer monitor. >> I tried setting things with Alsamixer, but no go. >> The sound system in the kernel (Debian 2.6.18-K7) is Alsa. > > It may be worth checking your hardware [1]. If your motherboard has > built-in sound, this may have been detected by Alsa as the default. It > will thus be expecting your mike to be plugged into the integrated sound > mic socket. Thanks, but actually the on-board sound is disabled and that would also apply to the speaker and line input. > > [1] > [http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Sound_in_Debian_GNU/Linux#Check_your_hardware > -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig, you both get dirty and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mike Capture not working in Debian Testing/Creative Live Soundblaster
I'm running Debian Testing and the mike capture recently stopped working. The card is a Creative Soundblaster Live. The problem is that the system will not allow any app to get mike audio. On the other hand I *can* get mike audio through the card if I switch on the mixer monitor. I tried setting things with Alsamixer, but no go. The sound system in the kernel (Debian 2.6.18-K7) is Alsa. does anyone knoow a fix? Thanks -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig, you both get dirty and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Re: Control Center Problems in KDE 3.5.5
Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 18:48:02 +0000, David Dawson wrote: >> Florian Kulzer wrote: >> >> > On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 17:08:03 +, David Dawson wrote: >> >> Florian Kulzer wrote: >> > That looks normal to me. You probably already tried running kcontrol >> > from a terminal window and checking for error messages. Another thing >> Thanks! >> I'm not exactly a newbie, but as I do most things in a shell, I usually >> don't have occasion to delve into the desktop settings. >> This is what I got: >> kcontrol: WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! >> Defaulting to Settings/ >> >> I see that something is missing, probably from an rc file, so which one? >> (I suspect I could tweak it by hand) >> > look at is ~/.xsession-errors after you have started kcontrol. > > It seems that there is a related bug report > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=397057 > > which mentions a workaround. As far as I can tell, you have to remove > and purge kdebase-data and then reinstall it. The whole problem seems to > be caused by the absence of the file > > /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/kde-essential.menu > Just wanted to report that the problem is now fixed. I updated kdebase and kdelibs and ran kbuildsycoca and kcontrol is just fine now. The key thing was the bug report. Thanks especially to Florian! -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig, you both get dirty and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Re: Control Center Problems in KDE 3.5.5
Florian Kulzer wrote: > /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/kde-essential.menu AHA! Thanks to you, Florian (and Joe and Roberto) -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig, you both get dirty and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Re: Control Center Problems in KDE 3.5.5
Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 17:08:03 +0000, David Dawson wrote: >> Florian Kulzer wrote: > That looks normal to me. You probably already tried running kcontrol > from a terminal window and checking for error messages. Another thing Thanks! I'm not exactly a newbie, but as I do most things in a shell, I usually don't have occasion to delve into the desktop settings. This is what I got: kcontrol: WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/ I see that something is missing, probably from an rc file, so which one? (I suspect I could tweak it by hand) > look at is ~/.xsession-errors after you have started kcontrol. > -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig, you both get dirty and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Control Center Problems in KDE 3.5.5
Florian Kulzer wrote:
> aptitude -F '%c %p%?v' search '~R(~Rkcontrol)~dkde|kcontrol' | awk '{print
> $1,$2,$3}'
Thanks,
Here's the output:
p gamin
i kcontrol 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6
i kdebase-data 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6
i kdelibs-data 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-8
i kdelibs4c2a 4:3.5.5a-1
i libarts1c2a 1.5.5-1
i libkonq4 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6
i libqt3-mt 3:3.3.7-4
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Re: Control Center Problems in KDE 3.5.5
Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 18:08:02 +0000, David Dawson wrote:
>> David Dawson wrote:
>>
>> > Florian Kulzer wrote:
>> >
>> >> aptitude -F '%?p%?v' search '~i~dkde' | awk '/3\.5\.6/{print $1,$2}'
>> > Thanks.
>> > This is what I get from the above command:
>> > kde-i18n-engb 4:3.5.6-1
>> > kde-i18n-eo 4:3.5.6-1
>> > kde-i18n-fr 4:3.5.6-1
>> >
>> > Is any package there likely to be involved? If I were to add a
>> > non-broken i18n-xxx package, would that solve the problem?.
>> >
>> > Incidently, my mike capture is broken and I can't reconfigure sound
>> > through the control center, Is there another way to invoke the specific
>> > sound configuration outside the control center? (Other than by hand,
>> > which I'll do if I get annoyed enough.)
>> Maybe I'm annoyed enough now
>>
>> Florian and Joe:
>> Thanks for the info, but I tried both ways and unfortunately the problem
>> is still unsolved.
>>
>> I believe that the *real* problem is in a config file, somewhere. But
>> which?
>
> Did you check already if a newly-created user has the same problem?
>
Thanks
A newly-created user *does* have the same problem.
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Re: Control Center Problems in KDE 3.5.5
David Dawson wrote:
> Florian Kulzer wrote:
>
>> aptitude -F '%?p%?v' search '~i~dkde' | awk '/3\.5\.6/{print $1,$2}'
> Thanks.
> This is what I get from the above command:
> kde-i18n-engb 4:3.5.6-1
> kde-i18n-eo 4:3.5.6-1
> kde-i18n-fr 4:3.5.6-1
>
> Is any package there likely to be involved? If I were to add a non-broken
> i18n-xxx package, would that solve the problem?.
>
> Incidently, my mike capture is broken and I can't reconfigure sound
> through the control center, Is there another way to invoke the specific
> sound configuration outside the control center? (Other than by hand, which
> I'll do if I get annoyed enough.)
Maybe I'm annoyed enough now
Florian and Joe:
Thanks for the info, but I tried both ways and unfortunately the problem is
still unsolved.
I believe that the *real* problem is in a config file, somewhere. But which?
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Re: Control Center Problems in KDE 3.5.5
Florian Kulzer wrote:
> aptitude -F '%?p%?v' search '~i~dkde' | awk '/3\.5\.6/{print $1,$2}'
Thanks.
This is what I get from the above command:
kde-i18n-engb 4:3.5.6-1
kde-i18n-eo 4:3.5.6-1
kde-i18n-fr 4:3.5.6-1
Is any package there likely to be involved? If I were to add a non-broken
i18n-xxx package, would that solve the problem?.
Incidently, my mike capture is broken and I can't reconfigure sound through
the control center, Is there another way to invoke the specific sound
configuration outside the control center? (Other than by hand, which I'll
do if I get annoyed enough.)
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Control Center Problems in KDE 3.5.5
I have a problem in the control center in KDE 3.5.5 with Debian Testing (Lenny). The app runs but the only menu item is 'Network' everything else is gone. I tried apt-get remove kcontrol --purge and then apt-get install ... But this is not a fix. Does someone have a fix for this problem? Thanks -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig, you both get dirty and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How can I refresh Etch completely?
Mark Grieveson wrote: >> Greetings; > >> I upgraded from Sarge according to the instructions but I have >> had all sorts of problems with it. > >> It seems to me that either something got corrupted during >> the upgrade, there is something left over from Sarge that >> shouldn't be, or there is the wrong version of a library >> somewhere. > >> Is this a clue? When I try to use aptitude it wants to remove >> 150+ "unused" packages, including Gnome. Doesn't feel right >> to me so I don't use it. > > Did you use aptitude to upgrade your system (ie, "aptitude > dist-upgrade")? If not, and you used apt, or synaptic, that will > explain why aptitude is giving erratic results. Best to continue with > what you had been using. > >> Any way, any ideas short of the old Windows stand by, >> "Format the hard drive and reinstall"? > >> Many TIA, >> Dennis > > You could try > > dpkg-reconfigure -a > > This'll take a while, and it will > ask you some questions thoughout. If you want the machine > to automatically reconfigure itself, without asking you any questions, > you could try > > dpkg-reconfigure --frontend=noninteractive -a > > I don't know if this will help or not, but I doubt it would make things > worse. > > Mark > > I use apt-get - I'm not sure how to do this in aptitude, but the command I use in such situations (before dpkg --configure -a) is: apt-get -f install, then configure with dpkg --configure -a, and maybe try both again. an apt-get dselect-upgrade *might* help, but I'd suggest running apt-get -s dselect-upgrade to check that it won't cause any problems. I have tried dselect, but found problems as you have found; I think dselect works similarly to aptitude. (the -s flag means 'simulate' -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig, you both get dirty and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Troubles with my modem
Carlos Manuel GV wrote: > My problem: > > I have a M70 Toshiba Satellite and Debian 4.0 installed. > I already have sl-modem-daemon packet and I´ve configured several times > /etc/wvdial.conf and checked /etc/ppp/ppers/wvdial, pap-secrets and > chap-secrets, and from root I gave privileges to users have access to > them. I have gnome-ppp too to access ppp from gnome. > > By wvdial through root, I almost get modem connected but I always get an > error in idle time that doesn´t let me contiune. > > With gnome-ppp have the next error-message: > <***> > > --> Ignoring malformed input line: ";Do NOT edit this file by hand!" > --> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.56 > --> Cannot get information for serial port. > --> Initializing modem. > --> Sending: ATZ > ATZ > OK > --> Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 > ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 > OK > --> Modem initialized. > --> Sending: ATM1L3DT060110 > --> Waiting for carrier. > ATM1L3DT060110 > CONNECT 52000 > --> Carrier detected. Starting PPP immediately. > --> Starting pppd at Sat Apr 28 12:48:03 2007 > --> Pid of pppd: 4033 > --> Disconnecting at Sat Apr 28 12:48:04 2007 > --> The PPP daemon has died: pppd options error (exit code = 2) > --> man pppd explains pppd error codes in more detail. > --> I guess that's it for now, exiting > --> The PPP daemon has died. (exit code = 2) > > > > I´ll really appreciate if you can guide me, last time with Debian in my > PC I got my modem ready, but now I can´t. > > Thanks a lot, > > B. > > In my experience, Kppp is better (although there is a quirk in the configuration). Even if you don't use KDE, if you at least have the KDE libraries, it should work and be easy to configure. The aforementioned quirk is in the configuration of a manual login script: It will 'forget' the last line, which refers to pppd (I seem to remember), as soon as you go in to edit it again. It only means that you have to add that line each time you edit the script. It ISN'T a big problem. -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig, you both get dirty and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson
Re: GRUB launch a CD?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.]
>
> I've got an old Compaq laptop. It can boot from hard
> drive or floppy but not from CD. I installed Etch
> by moving its hard drive to another machine
> temporarily. The CD drive is fine. The BIOS is
> just too stupid to boot from it.
>
> I'd like to be able to test and demonstrate live CDs.
> Is there a way to tell GRUB to boot a CD?
> Sections 3.4 and 11.1 of the GRUB manual say to
> use device name (cd) or maybe (cd0) but
> that gives an Error 23: Error while parsing number.
>
> Letting the grub shell complete "root ("
> I get Possible disks are: fd0 hd0. No CD.
> I get the same on a system that *does* boot CDs
> properly.
> I tried "chainloader /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/stage2_eltorito"
> but that's an Error 13, Invalid or unsupported executable
> format.
>
>
>
> Cameron
>
>
>
>
>
>
There's another method, too:
sbm (smart boot manager)
It comes on the Debian install disk as a floppy image which you dd to a
floppy and use it to boot from.
It is available as a package also, evidently
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Re: How to set up Logitech Quickcam Chat in Debian Testing
Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 21:08:03 +0000, David Dawson wrote: >> Florian Kulzer wrote: >> >> > On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 18:28:03 +, David Dawson wrote: >> >> Magnus Pedersen wrote: >> >> >> >> > David Dawson wrote: >> >> >>>> >> >> >> Thanks! ... >> >> >>> What does dmesg give your right after: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> - you plug in the device? >> >> >> This: >> >> >> usb 4-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 >> >> >> usb 4-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> - you modprobe the module? >> >> >> This: >> >> >> Linux video capture interface: v2.00 >> >> >> usbcore: registered new driver spca5xx >> >> >> /usr/src/modules/spca5xx/drivers/usb/spca5xx.c: spca5xx driver >> >> >> 00.60.00 registered >> >> > >> >> > And even after this you dont get /dev/video ? >> >> >> >> That's correct. >> >> I tried using MAKDEV, but it only created stuff in /dev/.static/dev >> > >> > That happens because udev should normally handle the device nodes >> > automatically. What messages do you get if you start >> > >> > udevmonitor >> > >> > and then plug in the camera? >> I get the following: >> UEVENT[1176670280.086049] add@/devices/pci:00/:00:13.1/usb4/4-2 >> UEVENT[1176670280.086132] >> add@/devices/pci:00/:00:13.1/usb4/4-2/usbdev4.3_ep00 >> UEVENT[1176670280.089077] >> add@/devices/pci:00/:00:13.1/usb4/4-2/4-2:1.0 >> UDEV [1176670280.089077] add@/devices/pci:00/:00:13.1/usb4/4-2 >> UEVENT[1176670280.089137] >> add@/devices/pci:00/:00:13.1/usb4/4-2/4-2:1.0/usbdev4.3_ep81 >> UEVENT[1176670280.089149] add@/class/usb_device/usbdev4.3 >> UDEV [1176670280.124411] >> add@/devices/pci:00/:00:13.1/usb4/4-2/usbdev4.3_ep00 >> UDEV [1176670280.127800] >> add@/devices/pci:00/:00:13.1/usb4/4-2/4-2:1.0 >> UDEV [1176670280.219247] >> add@/devices/pci:00/:00:13.1/usb4/4-2/4-2:1.0/usbdev4.3_ep81 >> UDEV [1176670280.260397] add@/class/usb_device/usbdev4.3 > > So udev does create some device nodes but not /dev/video0. What happens > if you symlink the device as /dev/video? It doesn't create *any* video* device at all. My apps - camstream or camorama wanted /dev/video0 and I think it was xawtv wanted /dev/video, but I suppose that could be changed in the app setup for xawtv. symlinking from /dev/.static/dev/video0 to /dev/video0 did not work. there is a symlink /dev/.static/dev/video to video0, so I presume /dev/video would be a symlink also if it existed. > > [ snip: purging hotplug has been taken care of ] > >> As a parenthetical note, I have an elcheapo webcam which is detected, the >> module is loaded and the /dev/video0 device created just perfectly, so I >> am sure udev is doing its job, in the case of that device > > Is there any difference in the output of udevmonitor when you plug in > that camera? > I'm not sure. Maybe I can check the logs and find out. The Quickcam is working (minimally) now and I'd like to keep on using it. Thanks for your interest -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig. you both get dirty, and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to set up Logitech Quickcam Chat in Debian Testing
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > I'm coming to this thread late, so please excuse me if you've covered > this already. > > I've had to use gscpa from upstream to get some more recent logitech > cameras to work. You can get the upstream tarball from > http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html > > I see now, though that sid has the package gspca-source updated to the > latest version from upstream. You have to use module-assistant etc, > but it works for me on a couple logitech cameras (not "chat"). > > hth > > A > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 09:40:57PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: >> On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 21:08:03 +, David Dawson wrote: >> > Florian Kulzer wrote: >> > >> > > On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 18:28:03 +, David Dawson wrote: >> > >> Magnus Pedersen wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > David Dawson wrote: >> > >> >>>> >> > >> >> Thanks! ... >> > >> >>> What does dmesg give your right after: >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> - you plug in the device? >> > >> >> This: >> > >> >> usb 4-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 >> > >> >> usb 4-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >>> - you modprobe the module? >> > >> >> This: >> > >> >> Linux video capture interface: v2.00 >> > >> >> usbcore: registered new driver spca5xx >> > >> >> /usr/src/modules/spca5xx/drivers/usb/spca5xx.c: spca5xx driver >> > >> >> 00.60.00 registered >> > >> > >> > >> > And even after this you dont get /dev/video ? >> > >> >> > >> That's correct. >> > >> I tried using MAKDEV, but it only created stuff in /dev/.static/dev >> > > >> > > That happens because udev should normally handle the device nodes >> > > automatically. What messages do you get if you start >> > > >> > > udevmonitor >> > > >> > > and then plug in the camera? >> > I get the following: >> > UEVENT[1176670280.086049] add@/devices/pci:00/:00:13.1/usb4/4-2 >> > UEVENT[1176670280.086132] >> > add@/devices/pci:00/:00:13.1/usb4/4-2/usbdev4.3_ep00 >> > UEVENT[1176670280.089077] >> > add@/devices/pci:00/:00:13.1/usb4/4-2/4-2:1.0 >> > UDEV [1176670280.089077] add@/devices/pci:00/:00:13.1/usb4/4-2 >> > UEVENT[1176670280.089137] >> > add@/devices/pci:00/:00:13.1/usb4/4-2/4-2:1.0/usbdev4.3_ep81 >> > UEVENT[1176670280.089149] add@/class/usb_device/usbdev4.3 >> > UDEV [1176670280.124411] >> > add@/devices/pci:00/:00:13.1/usb4/4-2/usbdev4.3_ep00 >> > UDEV [1176670280.127800] >> > add@/devices/pci:00/:00:13.1/usb4/4-2/4-2:1.0 >> > UDEV [1176670280.219247] >> > add@/devices/pci:00/:00:13.1/usb4/4-2/4-2:1.0/usbdev4.3_ep81 >> > UDEV [1176670280.260397] add@/class/usb_device/usbdev4.3 >> >> So udev does create some device nodes but not /dev/video0. What happens >> if you symlink the device as /dev/video? >> >> [ snip: purging hotplug has been taken care of ] >> >> > As a parenthetical note, I have an elcheapo webcam which is detected, >> > the module is loaded and the /dev/video0 device created just perfectly, >> > so I am sure udev is doing its job, in the case of that device >> >> Is there any difference in the output of udevmonitor when you plug in >> that camera? >> >> -- >> Regards, | http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer >>Florian | >> >> >> -- >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> I purged spca5xx and installed gspca from the tarball and now with camorama, I can get streaming and capture, but only at a low resolution, (176 x 144), but at least it works. I can get higher resolutions with camstream, but they show major defects in the rendition, such as showing only a partial frame, or jagged lines across the image. Still it looks as if it can be fully supported in the future. Thanks -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig. you both get dirty, and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Openoffice won't display whole document word count in document over 73,763 characters
David Dawson wrote: > I'm not sure if this is a bug in OOo, or what, but it suddenly stopped > displaying the word count in my document, when I went on typing and > checked it. I found that by selecting all text, I could get a count, but > not unless I did so; it would otherwise display 0 words 0 characters for > the total. > > If this is a bug I'd appreciate help filing a report. I checked the > issuezilla site and a search did not turn up this problem. > > I think it might be safer to cut the document in pieces. Any advice? > > Thanks Strangely, I have found that saving and reloading the .odt document cured the problem - what do you know, eh? I'd saved it as a .doc file and that might have provoked a problem somewhere. Oh well. Thanks all for your responses. -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig. you both get dirty, and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Openoffice won't display whole document word count in document over 73,763 characters
Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 04/16/07 01:08, David Dawson wrote: >> I'm not sure if this is a bug in OOo, or what, but it suddenly stopped >> displaying the word count in my document, when I went on typing and >> checked it. I found that by selecting all text, I could get a count, but >> not unless I did so; it would otherwise display 0 words 0 characters for >> the total. >> >> If this is a bug I'd appreciate help filing a report. I checked the >> issuezilla site and a search did not turn up this problem. >> >> I think it might be safer to cut the document in pieces. Any advice? > > Is that "73,763 characters" coming from the file size or the > File->Properties Statistics tab? v2.2 (at least) keeps (seemingly) > accurate document counts, even if the /Number of Lines/ must be > manually updated by clicking on an Update button. It is coming from 'Tools>word count' I understand the point about not filing a bug report on 2.04. I am keeping my sources at 'Testing', so in due course I'll get the update to 2.2. Thanks All! > > - -- > Ron Johnson, Jr. > Jefferson LA USA > > Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. > Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFGI3c8S9HxQb37XmcRAm0YAJ9AKgEo/ewTM39O78vZVvHUK4A6BACghJYH > WocT6ra3kDpCGjiRIdb1mzw= > =q7Ug > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig. you both get dirty, and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Openoffice won't display whole document word count in document over 73,763 characters
I'm not sure if this is a bug in OOo, or what, but it suddenly stopped displaying the word count in my document, when I went on typing and checked it. I found that by selecting all text, I could get a count, but not unless I did so; it would otherwise display 0 words 0 characters for the total. If this is a bug I'd appreciate help filing a report. I checked the issuezilla site and a search did not turn up this problem. I think it might be safer to cut the document in pieces. Any advice? Thanks -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig. you both get dirty, and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Further problems with OOo
andy wrote: > My wife, using Etch, was writing a long document in OOo, went to go and > save it as *.doc (for transport to work) and the document crashed. Now > everything except the very earliest save is gone! She is *not* impressed > (so much for my Linux advocacy!). > How can I recover the document - the auto-recovery of OOo only retrieved > the earlier stuff, but all changes she has made over the last few hours > are gone. > > Any guides on how I can rescue and resuscitate the document as close to > when it crashed as possible and save my wife's emotional sanity? > > A BIG thanks > > > Out of interest, how long (in characters) was the document? I have a 73,763 character document (13,318 words) and in .odt format it has not had a problem. I *have* had problems with docs containing different versions in .sxw format, though. I decided not to bother doing that again. As I was writing this, I saved it as a .doc file and no problems in OO 2.04 -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig. you both get dirty, and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to set up Logitech Quickcam Chat in Debian Testing
Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 18:28:03 +0000, David Dawson wrote: >> Magnus Pedersen wrote: >> >> > David Dawson wrote: >> >>>> >> >> Thanks! ... >> >>> What does dmesg give your right after: >> >>> >> >>> - you plug in the device? >> >> This: >> >> usb 4-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 >> >> usb 4-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice >> >> >> >> >> >>> - you modprobe the module? >> >> This: >> >> Linux video capture interface: v2.00 >> >> usbcore: registered new driver spca5xx >> >> /usr/src/modules/spca5xx/drivers/usb/spca5xx.c: spca5xx driver >> >> 00.60.00 registered >> > >> > And even after this you dont get /dev/video ? >> >> That's correct. >> I tried using MAKDEV, but it only created stuff in /dev/.static/dev > > That happens because udev should normally handle the device nodes > automatically. What messages do you get if you start > > udevmonitor > > and then plug in the camera? I get the following: UEVENT[1176670280.086049] add@/devices/pci:00/:00:13.1/usb4/4-2 UEVENT[1176670280.086132] add@/devices/pci:00/:00:13.1/usb4/4-2/usbdev4.3_ep00 UEVENT[1176670280.089077] add@/devices/pci:00/:00:13.1/usb4/4-2/4-2:1.0 UDEV [1176670280.089077] add@/devices/pci:00/:00:13.1/usb4/4-2 UEVENT[1176670280.089137] add@/devices/pci:00/:00:13.1/usb4/4-2/4-2:1.0/usbdev4.3_ep81 UEVENT[1176670280.089149] add@/class/usb_device/usbdev4.3 UDEV [1176670280.124411] add@/devices/pci:00/:00:13.1/usb4/4-2/usbdev4.3_ep00 UDEV [1176670280.127800] add@/devices/pci:00/:00:13.1/usb4/4-2/4-2:1.0 UDEV [1176670280.219247] add@/devices/pci:00/:00:13.1/usb4/4-2/4-2:1.0/usbdev4.3_ep81 UDEV [1176670280.260397] add@/class/usb_device/usbdev4.3 > > One other thing: Is your system old enough to have been upgraded from a > version of Debian which still used hotplug? In that case you have to > make sure that the hotplug package is now purged (not just removed). > It is old enough, but I have removed and purged hotplug some time ago. I was aware of that issue. That is: apt-get remove hotplug --purge As a parenthetical note, I have an elcheapo webcam which is detected, the module is loaded and the /dev/video0 device created just perfectly, so I am sure udev is doing its job, in the case of that device -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig. you both get dirty, and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to set up Logitech Quickcam Chat in Debian Testing
Magnus Pedersen wrote: > David Dawson wrote: >>>> >> Thanks! ... >>> What does dmesg give your right after: >>> >>> - you plug in the device? >> This: >> usb 4-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 >> usb 4-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice >> >> >>> - you modprobe the module? >> This: >> Linux video capture interface: v2.00 >> usbcore: registered new driver spca5xx >> /usr/src/modules/spca5xx/drivers/usb/spca5xx.c: spca5xx driver 00.60.00 >> registered > > And even after this you dont get /dev/video ? That's correct. I tried using MAKDEV, but it only created stuff in /dev/.static/dev > > /Magnus > > -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig. you both get dirty, and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to set up Logitech Quickcam Chat in Debian Testing
Magnus Pedersen wrote: > David Dawson wrote: >> I'm running Debian Testing and trying to set up a Logitech Quickcam Chat. >> it supposedly uses the spca5xx driver and is alleged to work. >> I have installed the driver with module-assistant. >> >> I have noticed that suddenly, the /dev/video* devices are not present >> (they exist only in /dev/.static/dev/) >> >> I might have messed up that somehow (I worked at it rather late at night) >> or maybe there's a foo-foo in the system. >> I am running the 2.6.18-3-k7 kernel on my K7S5A Pro/Athlon 1800+ system. >> And have updated/upgraded to current Debian Testing. >> >> Any webcam app I run (root or not) complains about no /dev/video0 >> or /dev/video (as the case may be) and symlinking the video* devices >> in .static/dev to /dev/ won't work >> >> lsusb shows the device is detected and this is the output: >> Bus 004 Device 004: ID 046d:092e Logitech, Inc. >> >> Any help is appreciated. >> Thanks! ... > What does dmesg give your right after: > > - you plug in the device? This: usb 4-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 usb 4-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice > - you modprobe the module? This: Linux video capture interface: v2.00 usbcore: registered new driver spca5xx /usr/src/modules/spca5xx/drivers/usb/spca5xx.c: spca5xx driver 00.60.00 registered > > /Magnus > > -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig. you both get dirty, and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to set up Logitech Quickcam Chat in Debian Testing
I'm running Debian Testing and trying to set up a Logitech Quickcam Chat. it supposedly uses the spca5xx driver and is alleged to work. I have installed the driver with module-assistant. I have noticed that suddenly, the /dev/video* devices are not present (they exist only in /dev/.static/dev/) I might have messed up that somehow (I worked at it rather late at night) or maybe there's a foo-foo in the system. I am running the 2.6.18-3-k7 kernel on my K7S5A Pro/Athlon 1800+ system. And have updated/upgraded to current Debian Testing. Any webcam app I run (root or not) complains about no /dev/video0 or /dev/video (as the case may be) and symlinking the video* devices in .static/dev to /dev/ won't work lsusb shows the device is detected and this is the output: Bus 004 Device 004: ID 046d:092e Logitech, Inc. Any help is appreciated. -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig. you both get dirty, and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inodes date in future - problem
David Dawson wrote: > Running Debian Etch on an AMD Athlon 2100+ ECS motherboard with 3 hard > disks, the 40 G original hard disk was showing inodes date in future on a > user forced fsck. > The reason the user forced the fsck was because of a system sluggishness > he suspected problems and rebooted with a forced fsck. > > I have installed etch on another of his hard disks and moved over his home > directory to the new disk. > > Does anyone have an idea what would have put inodes dates in the future on > this drive only and would this have caused a disk slowdown? It wouldn't be > swap issues, I think, since the machine has 2G of RAM. > > Thanks IN ANSWER TO THE POSTERS: -It has not lately been booted from a CD I can rule that out. -I think these might have been spurious errors at that. -Possibly the problem was with udevd and may now have (touch wood) been corrected by dpkg-reconfigure. -I am doing a snapshot of the process stack every 5 minutes and logging, so that I can capture the process that is doing the resource-hogging which caused the user to want to re-boot his machine (I suspect something was going wrong with an X app and really all he needed to do was kill the app) -Thanks! -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig. you both get dirty, and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to switch session from GDM
Ken Heard wrote: > Damodharan R wrote: >> Hi, >> I am using Debain Unstable. I have a problem with GDM. It always starts >> GNOME no matter what other session I choose. I tried to change the >> session to KDE using the session menu provided in GDM during login. But >> invariably I end up in GNOME. >> >> GDM Version >> ii gdm 2.16.4-1 GNOME Display >> Manager >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls /usr/share/xsessions/ >> Beryl.desktop gnome.desktop kde.desktop lg.desktop >> >> All these four are showing up in the menu. I had a look at the >> /etc/gdm/gdm.conf. But it has empty sections! Please help me to get this >> session stuff working. > > I had the same problem. First, you have to have kde and kdm installed. > > Next, you have to remove desktop-base, if you have it. I am not sure > whether this package does anything useful; all I know is that it > replaces the kde login manager opening screen with one of its own and > prevents implementation of some of the options in the kde control > centre. I don't understand why it is included in the basic packages > installed by the Etch installer; as it obviates choice, one of the > ostensible virtues of Debian. > > Third, you should run as root the "update-alternatives --config" > command three times (space between the s in alternatives and first dash > before config), each time with the following applications in turn (space > between the end of config and the argument): x-session-manager, > x-terminal-emulator and x-window-manager. > > Each of these three commands will produce a sort of menu whereby you > can chose the kde command to start each one of these applications. The > three kde choices for each one are, in turn: /usr/bin/startkde, > /usr/bin/konsole and /usr/bin/kwin. These may already be set for you as > a result of installing kde and kdm. If not, and you want the kde > application to start rather than any other, gnome being only one of the > other choices, change them yourself as described. > > From the kde control centre you can configure the kde login manager and > much else besides. Some of the changes will not take effect unless you > restart your user session, or even possibly not until after rebooting > the computer. > > Finally, when all is done you can remove gdm, the > gnome-desktop-environment and other gnome packages as well. > > Ken Heard > Toronto, Canada > > I am running GDM under Debian Etch and previously and have never had any trouble logging into KDE -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig. you both get dirty, and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Inodes date in future - problem
David Dawson wrote: > Running Debian Etch on an AMD Athlon 2100+ ECS motherboard with 3 hard > disks, the 40 G original hard disk was showing inodes date in future on a > user forced fsck. > The reason the user forced the fsck was because of a system sluggishness > he suspected problems and rebooted with a forced fsck. > > I have installed etch on another of his hard disks and moved over his home > directory to the new disk. > > Does anyone have an idea what would have put inodes dates in the future on > this drive only and would this have caused a disk slowdown? It wouldn't be > swap issues, I think, since the machine has 2G of RAM. > > Thanks OOPS, forgot to say that it's running Debian kernel 2.6.18-3-k7 -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig. you both get dirty, and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inodes date in future - problem
Running Debian Etch on an AMD Athlon 2100+ ECS motherboard with 3 hard disks, the 40 G original hard disk was showing inodes date in future on a user forced fsck. The reason the user forced the fsck was because of a system sluggishness he suspected problems and rebooted with a forced fsck. I have installed etch on another of his hard disks and moved over his home directory to the new disk. Does anyone have an idea what would have put inodes dates in the future on this drive only and would this have caused a disk slowdown? It wouldn't be swap issues, I think, since the machine has 2G of RAM. Thanks -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig. you both get dirty, and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how does ntpdate work ?
harm wrote: > in good old sarge there was a script in /etc/init.d/ that would check the > clock with the ntp server(s) in /etc/default/ntpdate. But how does it > works in Etch, since the init.d script is gone ? Of course i can execute > ntpdate ntp.xs4all.nl but if i want it to sync every 24hrs should i put it > in cron or is there a "hidden" script somewhere to take care of it ? you'd be better off by installing ntp, which runs ntpd and keeps on top of the time syncing. The default configuration should be fine, but you can specify what time servers to use also instead of the pool. (do please read the docs!) but if you are using dialup, you could run a crontab every day to execute ntpdate instead -- ...Dave Dawson "If you wrestle in the mud with a pig, you both get dirty, and the pig likes it." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ext3 journal
How does one locate the ext3 journal? In particular I want to be able to for example, remount the partition as ext2, secure-delete the journal, fsck if required, and remount as ext3. Is this feasible? And if so, where exactly is the journal? Thanks -- ...Dave Dawson "If you wrestle in the mud with a pig, you both get dirty, and the pig likes it." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NFS shares over the internet
Paul Johnson wrote: > On Tuesday 18 October 2005 12:05 pm, David Dawson wrote: >> I am experimenting with NSF mounts over the internet. >> So far, the share works on the local network between my two local >> machines, but only "sort of" on the remote machine. > > Try setting up a VPN with the remote network and using that for > communication > between the two sites. NFS might have a better shot at working well if > it's only crossing "one" network (not to mention having NFS through a > secure tunnel is more secure). > (Following up for the record) I installed shfsmount on both machines and this works quite well. Thanks to Anoop -- ...Dave Dawson "If you wrestle in the mud with a pig, you both get dirty, and the pig likes it." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NFS shares over the internet
I am experimenting with NSF mounts over the internet. So far, the share works on the local network between my two local machines, but only "sort of" on the remote machine. The two local machines are running Debian Sarge and the NSF server is running the 2.6.8-2-386 Debian kernel. The other local machine and the remote are running 2.4.x kernels. both local machines are connected to a router with a firewall. I have opened up port 2049 to the remote machine (TCP & UDP). the remote machine can ls the share, send and receive small files (say 100 bytes) but when an attempt to send or receive a larger file is made, the konqueror process reports 'stalled' and goes into uninterruptable sleep. Would Samba work any better? Is there a proper NSF solution? Thanks -- ...Dave Dawson "If you wrestle in the mud with a pig, you both get dirty, and the pig likes it." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how do I keep the clock from going back to UTC?
Simonelli, Anthony wrote: > Thank you so much for figuring this problem out: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/02/msg00682.html > > Apparently it is still a problem in the stable release. I > created /etc/localtime as a link to /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chicago > and it worked great! > > I did try Gentoo not too long ago, and during that installation, it was > required to set the timezone manually the same way so I should have > remembered to try that. Just wanted to say thanks because it was causing > problems here. > > Thank you, > Anthony Simonelli > Network Administrator > Aluminum Coil Anodizing Corp. > * > * THIS UNPUBLISHED COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL MAY CONTAIN > * TRADE SECRET INFORMATION OF ALUMINUM COIL ANODIZING > * CORPORATION. USE, TRANSFER, DISCLOSURE, OR COPYING > * WITHOUT ITS EXPRESSED WRITTEN PERMISSION IS STRICTLY > * FORBIDDEN. > > I am running Debian Sarge (stable now) which I keep on my timezone. I checked around and found that timezone info (among other things) is kept in /etc/default/rcS. You might want to set it there. If you have tzsetup read its man page or get it if not. Hope this helps you. -- ...Dave Dawson "If you wrestle in the mud with a pig, you both get dirty, and the pig likes it." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can't build Glade-2 apps
I have Glade and Glade-2 and am just learning the system. I have found that I cannot build anything under Glade-2. I am getting the following sorts of errors from the make after the ./autogen is run. (I haven't listed them all): in file included from /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gdk/gdkcolor.h:4, from /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gdk/gdk.h:30, from /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gtk/gtk.h:31, from main.c:10: /usr/include/gtk-2.0/gdk/gdktypes.h:32:18: glib.h: No such file or directory These headers DO exist and I have glib-1.2 and glib-2 installed. My system is Debian Sarge, up-to-date and I am running a 2.4.23 kernel which I compiled from source. I am running Glade and Glade-2 under KDE. programs built under Glade build, but ones built under Glade-2 don't. I'd appreciate any suggestions as to how to fix this. If I left out any crucial information please gently tell me so and I will supply it. Thanks ...Dave Dawson "If you wrestle in the mud with a pig, you both get dirty, and the pig likes it." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
