No monitor (was Re: Debian vs. ATI Radeon x1650)
Hello, thanks a lot for your help, I really appreciate it. Kelly Clowers wrote: > It is really weird that you don't get logs from those runs... Yes, it's strange. I thing there's some message (an error probably) on the screen just right before monitor's sleep mode, but it's too quick to read it :/ > And the RadeonHD driver seems pretty convinced that there are > no displays attached. I've tried xrandr -q output: no devices > I still didn't get an Xorg.conf from you, it might show something. See attached file. > My only thought right nowis to try specifying some monitor info, like > VertRefresh and HorizSync, and maybe use: > Option "ModeValidation" "NoEdidModes" > Option "UseEdid" "false" > > or some such. > > http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#Monitor_Settings > http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#Xorg_.22can.27t_see.22_the_resolutions_your_monitor_supports Thanks for the links. I was experimenting with those settings, but resulting in monitor's sleep mode only so far... Anyway... I'm thinking about switching to gNewSense (everything is working fine there), I'll try Debian again in a month or so.. with better luck maybe :) I just wanted to finish some work on packages I was co-maintaining before leaving Debian :/ Regards Dominik Smatana xorg.conf.new.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Debian vs. ATI Radeon x1650
Kelly Clowers wrote: > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:56, Dominik Smatana wrote: >> Kelly Clowers wrote: >>> I don't really know what to do, but have you tried the vesa driver? >> I'm not sure what do you mean. What's vesa driver? > > A generic driver that is unaccelerated, and limited in resolution, etc. > (Vesa is the Video Electronics Standards Association, they have > created many standards, including one that defines a basic > graphical mode of operation that all video cards implement) > > In xorg.conf section "Device", put: > Driver "vesa" > and comment out any other Driver line. > 1. "vesa" Thanks for the explanation, I've tried "vesa" driver, screen just went black (no sleep mode tho)... I had to hard restart after several minutes of waiting... no Xorg log was generated (?). >> Quick recap of my problem: >> >> Linux 2.6.30.6-dsa-ia32 i686 Debian >> X.Org X Server 1.6.3.901 (1.6.4 RC 1) >> >> my ATI Radeon x1650 have 2x DVI-I (Dual link), >> my LCD monitor LG L1752S got an "old" 15-pin D-SUB VGA connector >> so I have to use convertor... >> >> I'm getting following error when trying to start X: >> >> "... >> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. >> >> Fatal server error: >> no screens found > > Wait, you are getting an EE now? That wasn't in the first log you sent. > > Please post your full xorg.conf, and log with EE error. I made fresh install yesterday, Debian Squeeze/main (the latest weekly build). 2. "radeonhd" I'm getting EE when trying to start X using "radeonhd" driver (it's original config generated by Xorg -configure)... see full log in attachment. No hard restart needed in this case, after seeing EE message I got working console again... 3. "radeon" I've tried "radeon" driver as well... monitor went to sleep mode, I had to hard restart, no Xorg log was generated (?). Note: gNewSense and Ubuntu are working fine :( Thanks Dominik Smatana This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation. It is not supported in any way. Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/. Select the "xorg" product for bugs you find in this release. Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions please check the latest version in the X.Org Foundation git repository. See http://wiki.x.org/wiki/GitPage for git access instructions. X.Org X Server 1.6.3.901 (1.6.4 RC 1) Release Date: 2009-8-25 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.30.6-dsa-ia32 i686 Debian Current Operating System: Linux z3r0 2.6.30-1-686 #1 SMP Sat Aug 15 19:11:58 UTC 2009 i686 Build Date: 14 September 2009 05:23:17PM xorg-server 2:1.6.3.901-1 (bui...@murphy.debian.org) Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Sep 29 10:27:25 2009 (++) Using config file: "/root/xorg.conf.new" (==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured" (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" (**) | |-->Device "Card0" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" (==) Automatically adding devices (==) Automatically enabling devices (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (**) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, built-ins, /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, built-ins (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" (WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled. (WW) Disabling Mouse0 (WW) Disabling Keyboard0 (II) Loader magic: 0xa40 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 5.
Re: Debian vs. ATI Radeon x1650
Kelly Clowers wrote: > I don't really know what to do, but have you tried the vesa driver? I'm not sure what do you mean. What's vesa driver? > How about switching which dvi port you are using? I've tried to switch ports... still the same problem :( Quick recap of my problem: Linux 2.6.30.6-dsa-ia32 i686 Debian X.Org X Server 1.6.3.901 (1.6.4 RC 1) my ATI Radeon x1650 have 2x DVI-I (Dual link), my LCD monitor LG L1752S got an "old" 15-pin D-SUB VGA connector so I have to use convertor... I'm getting following error when trying to start X: "... (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Fatal server error: no screens found ..." I can send full Xorg.0.log if needed... I was checking wiki.x.org as well: http://www.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages#head-83b2f9b8c18db15e641ed9e0be8f9a8364001e5b but I wasn't able to solve this problem anyway. Any ideas please? Thanks a lot. Regards Dominik Smatana signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Debian vs. ATI Radeon x1650
Hello, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 01:34, Dominik Smatana wrote: Dominik, do any errors show up in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? I deleted all Xorg logs, I thought system will recreate it after next boot, but it wasn't recreated yet... should i create it manualy please? It think should be created after you try to run X, but I have never deleted my X log before... Try running X, and if that doesn't create it, use touch to create it and set it to user and group "root" with "rw-rw" permissions. it looks like X are really not able to recreate log, I had to recreate it manually. See attached file... I'm not sure, but it looks like it's something wrong with my monitor... my graphics card has 2x DVI-I output, but my LCD monitor got just that older VGA connector, so I'm using a convertor... I think my X are running fine, I'm just not able to see that, because my monitor keeps going to sleep mode everytime =) Unfortunately I got no other monitor here to try it... Funny thing is Ubuntu managed to recognize that monitor somehow >.< Any ideas please? Regards Dominik Smatana X.Org X Server 1.6.3 Release Date: 2009-7-31 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.30.4-dsa-ia32 i686 Debian Current Operating System: Linux z3r0 2.6.30-1-686 #1 SMP Sat Aug 15 19:11:58 UTC 2009 i686 Build Date: 06 August 2009 04:49:57PM xorg-server 2:1.6.3-1+b1 (bui...@murphy.debian.org) Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Sep 25 20:40:19 2009 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Configured Monitor" (**) | |-->Device "Configured Video Device" (==) Automatically adding devices (==) Automatically enabling devices (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"). (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/"). (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/"). (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"). (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi". Entry deleted from font path. (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"). (WW) The directory "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (==) FontPath set to: built-ins (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" (II) Cannot locate a core pointer device. (II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device. (II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable AllowEmptyInput. (II) Loader magic: 0x6c0 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 5.0 X.Org XInput driver : 4.0 X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 (II) Loader running on linux (--) using VT number 7 (--) PCI:*(0:2:0:0) 1002:71c7:1787:2227 ATI Technologies Inc RV535 [Radeon X1650 Series] rev 158, Mem @ 0xc000/268435456, 0xff4f/65536, I/O @ 0xc000/256, BIOS @ 0x/131072 (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket) (II) System resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0x - 0x (0x1) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x - 0x (0x1) MX[B] [5] -1 0 0x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B] [6] -1 0 0x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B] [7] -1 0 0x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B] [8] -1 0 0x - 0x (0x1) MX[B] [9] -1 0 0x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B] [10] -1 0 0x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B] [11] -1 0 0x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B] [12] -1 0 0x - 0x (0x1) MX[B] [13] -1 0 0x000f
Re: Debian vs. ATI Radeon x1650
Hello, thanks everyone for all hints... I'm gonna try answer some of your questions (I'm sorry for my bad english): Cassiano Leal wrote: > > Squeeze's kernel version is 2.6.30: > http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/linux-image-2.6.30-1-686 > > Try that, might help! I've tried kernel 2.6.30-1-686, but I'm still facing the same problem. thveillon.debian wrote: > > Hi, > what driver are you using ? Free "ati/radeon" or "fglrx" proprietary driver? > > If it's the free one, check that your card is supported somewhere here: > http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon > I'd like to use free drivers only, my card should be supported (RV535). > and show us your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (maybe empty). This is my /etc/X11/xorg.conf from working Ubuntu (but it doesn't work in Debian): Section "Device" Identifier"Configured Video Device" Driver"radeon" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier"Configured Monitor" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier"Default Screen" Monitor"Configured Monitor" Device"Configured Video Device" EndSection I've tried generated (Xorg -configure) config as well (it's quite long, can post if needed), still the same problem... > > If it's the fglrx stuff, check on ati's website, your card may be > "legacy" and stuck with an older version of the driver (9.3 ?). And yet > again a matter of xorg.conf too. > > http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx I've tried proprietary driver as well, the same problem... anyway, free driver is my primary goal... > > I don't think the kernel itself has something to do with this, except > maybe with the "KMS" (kernel mode settings) of latest kernels. > > Ubuntu tends to make the use of proprietary drivers "transparent" to > users, so maybe you where using "fglrx" there and not in Debian ? Ubuntu 2.6.27-14-generic (the only OS I managed to run so far) is running 100% fine (including compiz 3D effects) using free driver xserver-xorg-driver-radeon 1:6.12.1-0ubuntu2 Strange thing is that when booting Ubuntu 2.6.28-15-generic system hangs (monitor turns into sleep mode)... Kelly Clowers wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:22, JoeHill wrote: >> Yes, get an NVidia card and your troubles will be over forever. I have never >> once been unable to get an NVidia card working, and I've been using them with >> Linux for about 8 years. > > That's fine, I guess, but personally I will never buy Nvidia until they > release open drivers and/or docs. To paraphrase RMS, "Don't buy > from Nvidia, enemy of your Freedom" > > In any case, the drivers for Radeon are about as good, quality-wise, > as Nvidia drivers nowadays. Of course there can still be individual > problems with either one. I completely agree, free drivers are my #1 priority... > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:03, thveillon.debian > wrote: >> Ubuntu tends to make the use of proprietary drivers "transparent" to >> users, so maybe you where using "fglrx" there and not in Debian ? > > The Radeon drivers are easier to configure than the fglrx drivers, > and fglrx is only available in Ubuntu if you install restricted drivers. > I'm not using any fglrx drivers... > > Dominik, do any errors show up in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? > I deleted all Xorg logs, I thought system will recreate it after next boot, but it wasn't recreated yet... should i create it manualy please? Regards Dominik Smatana -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian vs. ATI Radeon x1650
Brent Clark wrote: On 24/09/2009 15:12, Dominik Smatana wrote: Ubuntu 9.04 kernel 2.6.27-14-generic = OK (strange) Close your eyes, save yourself time and effort and just use Ubuntu. Hey, thanks for the advice, but Debian is my #1 priority... I'd rather buy a new card if needed =) P.s. Ubuntu 9.04 is using kernel 2.6.28-15-generic. Yeah, you are right, it was my typo... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Debian vs. ATI Radeon x1650
Hello, some time ago my old machine "went boom" and now I'm desperately trying to install Debian on new one... Everytime I'm trying to start x-server monitor just turns to sleep mode and keyboard LEDs keep blinking... I think this problem is related to my graphic card - ATI Technologies Inc RV535 [Radeon X1650 Series] rev 158. Debian Lenny = fail Debian Squeeze kernel 2.2.26-1-686 = fail Debian Squeeze kernel 2.6.26-2-686 = fail Ubuntu 9.04 kernel 2.6.27-14-generic = OK (strange) Ubuntu 9.04 kernel 2.6.27-15-generic = fail Any ideas please? Thanks Dominik Smatana -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
