kernel panic at Jessie shutdown
I installed Debian LXDE 8.2 (Jessie) on an IBM R40 laptop (2897-54U, 1.3 Centrino processor, 256 meg memory) using the netinst CD. The LAN port is broken, so I used a USB to RJ45 adapter. Installation went fine, but when I clicked logout, then shutdown, it went into kernel panic, giving the following messages: [ 222.710760] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! exitcode=0x0009 [ 222.710760] [ 222.713883] Kernel offset: 0x0 from 0xc000 (relocation range: 0xc000 - 0xd075) [ 222.713883] drm_kms_helper: panic occurred, switching back to text console [ 222.713883] ---[end kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! exitcode:0x0009 [ 222.713883] Then it failed to shutdown, so I had to press the power button to shut it down. It continues to do that. Any suggestion as to what's the cause and what's the solution? I had been running Squeeze before this Jessie installation. Please cc me as I am not subscribed. elmer
selecting old machines for firewall/router use
Greetings: I'd like to set up a network with a firewall for my home computers for security, control and convenience (file sharing), as well as to learn about networking. We have the Internet entering via a Motorola DSL modem and it currently passes data through a NetGear wireless router. I'd like to construct my own firewall/router to connect our three active machines and also use the NetGear for wireless access when needed. Sitting on my bench right now and available for use as a firewall/router is a Dell Optiplex GX1 with the following specs: 300 Mhz processor boot manager on 3.5-inch diskette so it can boot from diskette, CD or hard drive ethernet jack on motherboard 5 pci slots 4 isa slots (I have a pci nic and 2 isa nics on hand, plus there's that built-in jack on the board) I'm leaning toward using the above machine since it has both pci and isa slots for nics (and an ethernet jack on the motherboard) so I won't have to buy a switch right away. I'll be able to connect the firewall/router box direct to the networked machines. (Will I need crossover cables?) However, it's the slowest of the bunch and I suspect that those isa nics might be very slow and problematic. Would I be best off just buying a network switch or replacing the isa nics with pci nics? Would one of my faster old machines be a more practical choice here? I have the following available: Dell Dimension 333 333 Mhz processor 3 pci slots 2 isa slots This boots from a CD without and manipulations, unlike the machine above. I'd need to purchase another pci nic to equal the four that I have available in the Optiplex. e-machines 1.7 Ghz processor ethernet jack on motherboard 3 pci slots It seems like this one would have the greatest energy costs. I'd need to buy more pci nics, too. (Qty:2) Micron 800 Mhz processor 3 pci slots There are not enough slots, so I'd need a network switch, too. Premier 500 Mhz processor 3 pci slots There are not enough slots, so I'd need a network switch, too. Which would be most suitable as a firewall/router? I'm thinking that any will work, but the e-machines box will be the most expensive to operate. And most of the above machines will require me to get more nics or purchase a switch. Any other things that I should consider? Your advice and opinions are welcome. Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d617362.2020...@att.net
Re: Occasional random cursor movement while typing
Bob Proulx wrote: Elmer E. Dow wrote: When typing on my laptop, occasionally my cursor will skip back (up) a few lines and I'll be entering text in the midst of text ... What's happening here? My sleeve isn't touching the touchpad nor did I bump the Trackpoint nor the mouse. I'm not accidentally hitting I am confident it is the touchpad. I have the same problem. Disabling the touchpad will avoid the problem. Personally I did not want to unconditionally disable the touchpad. I would use it more if it were not for that annoying behavior. The syndaemon gives me great relief and results. $ apt-cache show xserver-xorg-input-synaptics * It also provides a daemon to disable touchpad while typing at the keyboard and thus avoid unwanted mouse movements (see syndaemon(1)). It detects keyboard activity and for a configurable time disables the touchpad. When idle is detected it enables the touchpad. I launch it like this (in my ~/.xsession file, but you would need more than this there). syndaemon -i 20 -K -p $HOME/var/run/syndaemon.pid -d Bob I discovered xserver-xorg-input-synaptics was already installed on my laptop, so I tried: $ syndaemon -i 1.0 and got the message . . . Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled? $ A little research resulted in my finding instructions to add the following to the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file in order to enable SHMConfig: Section "InputClass" Identifier "enable synaptics SHMConfig" MatchIsTouchpad "on" MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*" Driver "synaptics" Option "SHMConfig" "on" EndSection In typing the above, I discovered what's happening! The cursor jumped again as I was typing the "t" in "little." I tried to replicate what I was doing and discovered that it's not the touchpad that I'm touching but the left clicker key situated in front of the touchpad. The return spring under that key has become weak and mushy over seven or eight years of almost daily service. As I reach to strike the "r" and "t" keys I sometimes brush the clicker key with the bottom of the lower thumb knuckle of the left hand. When that happens, the cursor jumps to wherever the mouse pointer happens to be and enters the character there. I need to be careful to keep my left hand farther above the keys while typing. It would also be helpful to replace the spring under the left clicker key. (This diagnosis also explains why the problem has grown worse with age.) Thanks to all for your patience and advice. Elmer E. Dow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c8f86e3.7070...@att.net
Re: Occasional random cursor movement while typing
I changed the BIOS back this morning to enable the touchpad again. So far, no problems. We'll see how long this lasts. Elmer E. Dow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c8cf906.1000...@att.net
Re: Occasional random cursor movement while typing
Doug wrote: On 9/10/2010 10:57 PM, Doug wrote: /snip/ In PcLOs, there's a setup where you can disable the touchpad when a mouse is plugged in to the USB port. It's based around a synaptiks package. I did not see the same thing in Debian Squeeze, altho there is a setup that (supposedly) disables the touchpad while you are typing. /snip/ It works nicely--I'm using it right now. Since PcLOs uses KDE 4.4.5 (this version, anyway) and Debian uses Gnome, that may be why the capability is missing. --doug Sorry for the deception--I have both programs, as well as Debian--on this laptop, and I thought I was writing from Linux. Not from Debian tho. Its mail setup is ferblunget, and I haven't gotten it to work. Why can't I have good old Thunderbird --doug I turned off the touchpad, so now I have just the Trackpoint enabled. I also have been disconnecting the laser mouse in order to eliminate another variable. Since I could reproduce the problem in some cases, I have a hard time believing that I'm accidentally hitting the touchpad with my hand while typing. My lower thumb joint is the closest and I'd have to deliberately rotate my hands in an uncomfortable position in order to touch it while my hands are in a keyboarding position. I got a real scare when saving the new BIOS settings and rebooting. When X started to load and I got the screen with the x cursor in the middle, it stopped loading X. I could move the cursor with the Trackpoint, but I wasn't getting a usable screen. I hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace and got a console, then re-entered startx and it loaded up just fine. I assume that X needed to re-evaluate the landscape after having the BIOS change. The errors listed were: Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server (EE) Error compiling keymap (server 0) (EE) XKB: Couldn't compile keymap I hope that's the last that I'll see of that. Is there a config file somewhere that I should edit? By the way, I'm not currently using a gui login such as kdm, gdm or xdm. The laptop just boots to a commandline, then I type startx and load IceWM. Recently I've been test driving FluxBox. I'll swap back and forth using the touchpad and see if I can figure out exactly what's happening. It's working OK now, but I'm skeptical that the simplest answer is the correct one. Thanks for your help. Elmer E. Dow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c8c5024.7020...@att.net
Occasional random cursor movement while typing
When typing on my laptop, occasionally my cursor will skip back (up) a few lines and I'll be entering text in the midst of text previously entered. Sometimes I can't reproduce it, but this morning when typing the word we're the cursor would jump up about three lines when I hit the apostrophe (single quote ' ) key. I deleted the text I accidentally entered because of the problem, then retyped the word and the cursor again jumped back to that same spot. It repeated three or for times, then began to act normally. It happened again typing this e-mail message. I was typing the word typing and the cursor jumped up a couple of lines and started entering text in the midst of the word text. What's happening here? My sleeve isn't touching the touchpad nor did I bump the Trackpoint nor the mouse. I'm not accidentally hitting the wrong key. The embedded 10-key pad isn't activated and the keys in question aren't on that part of the keyboard anyway. The machine in question is an IBM R40 laptop running Lenny. I have a triple-boot system: two versions of Debian (I'm in Lenny now) and WinXP. I don't r(it just jumped down the page two lines and to the left)ecall it happening in XP, but I only use XP a few times per year. I think that it happens in the other version of Debian (I think I've got Sarge there). I'm assuming that this is not a keyboard issue. If it were, I would think that the key would either enter properly or not, rather than enter an improper character. Or is it a CPU going nuts? Is it (just did it again when I typed the t in the previous word) a problem with X or a the driver for the keyboard, mouse, etc.? This has been happening for months. It's weird and frustrating. How can I diagnose this? Elmer E. Dow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c8a5a96.1050...@att.net
Re: Occasional random cursor movement while typing
Claudius Hubig wrote: "Elmer E. Dow" elmere...@att.net wrote: How can I diagnose this? Most important: Which text editor are you using? Does it also harppen in, say, nano (a terminal program) or in a web browser when entering text in a form field? Best regards, Claudius Hubig It happens in OpenOffice Writer and Calc, IceDove, FaceBook messages and posting, Nano, Vi and probably some other programs that I'm forgetting to list. It happens when in a te(just happened here when I typed "r")rminal emulator, but I'm not sure if it happens when typing in a terminal (alt-F1 to alt-F6). It appears to happen when I type an "r" more often than some other letters. It happened when I was running KDE and it's still happening now that I use IceWM and FluxBox. Thanks for your interest and help in finding the problem. *1 I just tried to sign off with my name and it kept skipping arou*nd when I typed "r" and also would er(jumped to the asterisk marker position above)ase a few let(jumped to *1 position above) ase a few letters before like a backspace. Any ideas? It seems to be getting worse. Elmer E. Dow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c8ad87e.8020...@att.net
Re: Occasional random cursor movement while typing
Elmer E. Dow wrote: Claudius Hubig wrote: "Elmer E. Dow" elmere...@att.net wrote: How can I diagnose this? Most important: Which text editor are you using? Does it also harppen in, say, nano (a terminal program) or in a web browser when entering text in a form field? Best regards, Claudius Hubig It happens in OpenOffice Writer and Calc, IceDove, FaceBook messages and posting, Nano, Vi and probably some other programs that I'm forgetting to list. It happens when in a te(just happened here when I typed "r")rminal emulator, but I'm not sure if it happens when typing in a terminal (alt-F1 to alt-F6). It appears to happen when I type an "r" more often than some other letters. It happened when I was running KDE and it's still happening now that I use IceWM and FluxBox. Thanks for your interest and help in finding the problem. *1 I just tried to sign off with my name and it kept skipping arou*nd when I typed "r" and also would er(jumped to the asterisk marker position above)ase a few let(jumped to *1 position above) ase a few letters before like a backspace. Any ideas? It seems to be getting worse. Elmer E. Dow I just ran Nano in a terminal (alt-F2) and it worked fine. Elmer E. Dow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c8adb5a.4010...@att.net
Re: Icedove trash icon appears only after trash is emptied
Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 18:20:55 -0500, Elmer E. Dow wrote: Icedove's trash icon disappears when I reboot. It reappears only after doing File - Empty Trash. This is a recent occurrence. How do I fix this? I'd like to have the icon visible so I can retrieve a discarded file if necessary. I'm using Lenny with FluxBox on an IBM R40 laptop. Try to recreate the Trash folder by moving or renaming (do not delete) these files and restarting Icedove: ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/profile.default/Mail/Local Folders/Trash ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/profile.default/Mail/Local Folders/Trash.msf Before doing it, just check the current Trash folder is empty (contains no data). Greetings, I renamed those files Trashold and Trashold.msf, then restarted Icedove. Still no Trash icon in Icedove, but it did recreate the Trash and Trash.msf files in the Local Folders directory. I rebooted, still no change. What should I try now? By the way, instead of profile.default I have e3x3er35.default. Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c6e8a4b.2080...@att.net
Re: Icedove trash icon appears only after trash is emptied
Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 08:59:39 -0500, Elmer E. Dow wrote: Camaleón wrote: (...) Try to recreate the Trash folder by moving or renaming (do not delete) these files and restarting Icedove: ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/profile.default/Mail/Local Folders/Trash ~/.mozilla-thunderbird/profile.default/Mail/Local Folders/Trash.msf Before doing it, just check the current Trash folder is empty (contains no data). I renamed those files Trashold and Trashold.msf, then restarted Icedove. Still no Trash icon in Icedove, but it did recreate the Trash and Trash.msf files in the Local Folders directory. I rebooted, still no change. What should I try now? Mmm, try with a complete empty profile. Rename the current one so Icedove creates another. If that works, you can move your settings/files to the working one. By the way, instead of profile.default I have e3x3er35.default. Yep, each user has a random chain of letters and numbers :-) Greetings, I found the problem and it was me. In that Icedove menu at the left, there's a toggle at the top for All Folders, Recent Folders, etc. and I had somehow accidentally set it to Recent instead of All, which explains why the Trash icon appeared after I emptied the Trash folder. Problem solved. Thanks for your efforts. Sorry to bother. Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c6eb0a6.3050...@att.net
Icedove trash icon appears only after trash is emptied
Icedove's trash icon disappears when I reboot. It reappears only after doing File - Empty Trash. This is a recent occurrence. How do I fix this? I'd like to have the icon visible so I can retrieve a discarded file if necessary. I'm using Lenny with FluxBox on an IBM R40 laptop. Elmer E. Dow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c6dbc57.8060...@att.net
Re: Linux and Windows partitioners fail to see opposite partitions
Joe wrote: Elmer E. Dow wrote: Recall that I used the DOS console to run fdisk /mbr to get XP to boot. Would installing grub on the MBR make Linux once again see the whole drive? It should at least allow correct booting. I wish I knew for sure. The XP Disc Manager and fdisk seem to agree on what's where, I really don't understand why gparted isn't seeing exactly the same thing. The Lenny installer is normally able to see Windows installations, and to either offer to include them in the grub menu or do so without asking. Even if it doesn't, that's easy to fix, as long as it puts itself in the right place. You'll certainly learn something from the early stages of the Lenny installation. Since you have XP recovery media and it's a new installation, you have nothing to lose by experimenting. There's clearly something odd going on, as I would certainly expect the recovery to have taken the whole drive, possibly splitting it into more than one partition, but all Windows types. And I've never known an XP installation, whether from recovery or Microsoft media, to need a repair to the MBR before it would boot. That's just silly, recovery should be simple enough for a businessman to do. As to Partition Magic, it certainly should do no harm and may throw some more light on the situation. Also, a recovery partition normally is just that, possibly a hidden type, but always listed in the partition table, showing in the Disc Manager or with fdisk. I've never seen apparently unallocated space used before, which tells us that the BIOS must know something about the disc details, and is maintaining some kind of safeguard against deletion. I'd assume that the Disc Manager is also unable to write there. My feeling is that the partition table is not completely standard. If I wasn't worried about XP, I'd probably write the numbers down, delete it all with fdisk and recreate it, then write the table back to disc. That won't touch the data, but it might mess up something that the recovery system uses. Maybe, initiating the recovery again from the BIOS would restore it, maybe not. I'd only try it if I was certain I'd never need Windows recovery again. On the other hand, presumably the separate recovery media you have should work even on a new blank HD. Best of luck, I don't think I can offer any more advice. If you do solve it, let us know, it might help someone else in future. I found the answer here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=437814 fdisk /dev/hda m w This rewrites the partition table. Gparted is now displaying the partitions in what appears to be a correct manner. I'm off and running. Now I can finish my multiboot installation. Will post again if there are any complications caused by this procedure. Thanks for your input. Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4baa3a24.3090...@att.net
Re: Linux and Windows partitioners fail to see opposite partitions
Mark wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Elmer E. Dow elmere...@att.net mailto:elmere...@att.net wrote: [snip] I found the answer here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=437814 fdisk /dev/hda m w Maybe you didn't see my email reply to Debian List when you first posted this but this is exactly what I said to do, except I suggested using cfdisk via an Ubuntu Live CD. Glad it's working though. Mark I appreciated your suggestion, but in my ignorance I wasn't sure what to do after I entered cfdisk. You said, You could try and fix this using the cfdisk command via an Ubuntu Live CD, it's worked before for me to rewrite the mbr according to the partition locations it recognizes and I didn't equate rewriting the partition table (as the cfdisk man page says for the command W) with rewriting the mbr as you said. It's sinking in now that evidently the mbr and the partition table are the same thing. I need to do some reading to get a better understanding of the workings of a computer system in general and the boot process in particular. Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4baa536f.1080...@att.net
Re: Re: Linux and Windows partitioners fail to see opposite partitions
Elmer E. Dow wrote: I have an IBM R40 laptop which had WinXP and Debian Lenny installed. Due to a problematic upgrade to XP SP2, I decided to use the built-in system restore to reinstall XP. Also, I wanted to play around with Lenny more, so I decided that I'd reinstall two versions of Lenny, too. So I used dban on the partitions to assure a fresh start, then reinstalled XP using the built-in restore feature. I expected that XP would do what it did during the last installation session: allocate the whole drive to itself. Then I expected to go in with gparted and set up the Linux partitions. Windows installed just fine, except that after doing so, I had to do fdisk /mbr from a DOS console in order to set the mbr to boot XP. I decided to prep for the installation of the two versions of Debian, so I booted up a gparted live 0.5.2-1 cd. I discovered that gparted only saw the 34.31GB unallocated area on the 40GB drive -- no sign of the partition with XP on it. So I tried an older version of gparted on a Puppy cd and it agreed with the gparted cd: 34.31GB unallocated. I'm concerned that the new Lenny installations won't be able to see the XP partition. I booted XP and it reported 5.86GB total, with 1.93GB free. It doesn't see beyond its borders either. I'm tempted to reinstall Partition Magic on XP and see what it reports. Is that a wise move or should I look at other options? I'd used it during the last installation on this machine and I'm guessing that using a different partitioner has caused this current problem. If I use Partition Magic to resize the Linux partitions, isn't it likely that Linux won't then be able to then see those partitions, too? I'm wondering if grub won't be able to boot Linux if grub is installed on the MBR at the beginning of the drive (where XP is located) because it won't see the Linux partition. Or will grub install on the first Linux partition because it can't see the XP partition before it? Then grub won't boot XP because it can't see it. How can I use Linux tools to fix what Linux can't see? I'd appreciate any advice as to how to proceed. Joe: To begin with, run fdisk -l from a Linux command line, then when you're sure of the disc name, fdisk /dev/. If you're not sure what you're looking at, post the result here. -- Elmer: Here's the result of fdisk -l: Warning:invalid flag 0x of partition table 5 will be corrected by w(rite) Disk /dev/hda: 36.8GB 368448527872 bytes 240 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4759 cylinders Units: cylinders of 15120*512=7741440 bytes Disk identifier: 0xcccdcccd Device Boot Start End Blocks ID Systen /dev/hda1 * 1 813 6146248+ 7 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda2 814 2234 10742760 Linux /dev/hda3 2235 2880 4883760 83 Linux /dev/hda4 2881 4301 10742760 f W95 Ext'd (LBA) Joe: When you say 'built-in restore', what do you actually mean? If you haven't got a recovery CD, that generally means there is a hidden partition on the hard drive, which may complicate things. You don't want to damage that if you will need XP in the future, so if you find one it's probably best copied off onto a DVD ASAP. -- There's a hidden recovery partition which doesn't show up on Partition Magic nor has it shown up previously on gparted. When resizing partitions, the partitioner just won't use the last 3 or 4 GB or so at the end of the drive. It can be made viewable by changing a setting in the BIOS. I also have recovery CDs, so I could get recovery even if I messed up the reinstallation from the recovery partition. -- Joe: The recovery system, whatever it is, will start by partitioning the drive exactly as it came from the factory. -- Elmer: That's what I thought, too, and so am surprised that it didn't take over the whole drive. Joe: Windows generally will neither see nor mount filesystems it doesn't use itself, but the XP Disc Manager (in Admin Tools, Computer Management) should show other partitions as existing and 'unknown'. Needless to say, all Linux tools should show all partitions. Windows also needs to have its boot files at least on a primary, bootable partition. Linux doesn't care. The non-booting of XP is suspicious, and something I've never seen. By the way, depending on what you're using it for, and for how long, your XP partition might be a bit small. -- Joe --- Elmer: I'm keeping XP around for legal DVD playing, so I don't need much space
Linux and Windows partitioners fail to see opposite partitions
I have an IBM R40 laptop which had WinXP and Debian Lenny installed. Due to a problematic upgrade to XP SP2, I decided to use the built-in system restore to reinstall XP. Also, I wanted to play around with Lenny more, so I decided that I'd reinstall two versions of Lenny, too. So I used dban on the partitions to assure a fresh start, then reinstalled XP using the built-in restore feature. I expected that XP would do what it did during the last installation session: allocate the whole drive to itself. Then I expected to go in with gparted and set up the Linux partitions. Windows installed just fine, except that after doing so, I had to do fdisk /mbr from a DOS console in order to set the mbr to boot XP. I decided to prep for the installation of the two versions of Debian, so I booted up a gparted live 0.5.2-1 cd. I discovered that gparted only saw the 34.31GB unallocated area on the 40GB drive -- no sign of the partition with XP on it. So I tried an older version of gparted on a Puppy cd and it agreed with the gparted cd: 34.31GB unallocated. I'm concerned that the new Lenny installations won't be able to see the XP partition. I booted XP and it reported 5.86GB total, with 1.93GB free. It doesn't see beyond its borders either. I'm tempted to reinstall Partition Magic on XP and see what it reports. Is that a wise move or should I look at other options? I'd used it during the last installation on this machine and I'm guessing that using a different partitioner has caused this current problem. If I use Partition Magic to resize the Linux partitions, isn't it likely that Linux won't then be able to then see those partitions, too? I'm wondering if grub won't be able to boot Linux if grub is installed on the MBR at the beginning of the drive (where XP is located) because it won't see the Linux partition. Or will grub install on the first Linux partition because it can't see the XP partition before it? Then grub won't boot XP because it can't see it. How can I use Linux tools to fix what Linux can't see? I'd appreciate any advice as to how to proceed. EED -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ba7f2ff.2010...@att.net
Re: Safe change of uid
I executed deluser --remove-all-files --backup username and it searched for files to remove and backed up three files from the user's home directory -- but it left the user's home directory in place with its contents. The group and user were deleted, so the remaining files have owners of 500 -- the previous owner's original uid. The properties of those files still list the owner's original uid which is 500, so kuser failed to change the uid when I used kuser to do that. There is now no user or group listed as having a uid of 500 -- at least according to kuser. Weird. My apologies for the last post's line length. I was using my webmail account and forgot that I haven't found a way to change that. --Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Safe change of uid
Just finished a fresh Lenny install and added an account for my daughter -- and kuser assigned it uid 500 instead of 1001, which I must correct. After looking at man pages and archives, I see that kuser in the past has done well creating accounts but not modifying them. Is that still true with the version used in Lenny? Is usermod a better option for dealing with this situation or would deleting and recreating the account -- either using kuser or userdel -- be the simplest and best method? Please cc me as I am not currently subscribing to the list. Elmer E. Dow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Safe change of uid
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 08:54:47AM -0500, Elmer E. Dow wrote: Just finished a fresh Lenny install and added an account for my daughter -- and kuser assigned it uid 500 instead of 1001, which I must correct. After looking at man pages and archives, I see that kuser in the past has done well creating accounts but not modifying them. Is that still true with the version used in Lenny? Is usermod a better option for dealing with this situation or would deleting and recreating the account -- either using kuser or userdel -- be the simplest and best method? Please cc me as I am not currently subscribing to the list. Since you only just created the user, I'd just go ahead and delete it (use: # cd /var/tmp # deluser --remove-all-files --backup then use adduser to create the new user To be safe, I'd then examine the backup tarball to ensure that nothing was removed accidentally, before deleting the tarball. I've never used (or heard of) kuser to know why it created uid 500. Doug. Kuser is the KDE gui that's supposed to take the place of the command line user management. It follows the Red Hat convention of users uid starting at 500 instead of the Debian rule that starts them at 1000. From what I've read, it's like deluser in that it only deletes the user stuff in the home directory, so I still need to edit /etc/passwd, /etc/group, /etc/shadow, etc. and delete the user's group. Or is there a command to take care of those, too? If there is, I haven't found it yet. Or will adduser overwrite the previous info when I add the new user of the same name? I've read of permission problems, boot problems, etc. caused by changing uid so I'm a bit paranoid. Thanks for reminding me to --backup. Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Safe change of uid
Alex Samad wrote:
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 05:29:04PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 08:54:47AM -0500, Elmer E. Dow wrote:
Just finished a fresh Lenny install and added an account for my daughter
-- and kuser assigned it uid 500 instead of 1001, which I must correct.
After looking at man pages and archives, I see that kuser in the past
has done well creating accounts but not modifying them. Is that still
true with the version used in Lenny? Is usermod a better option for
dealing with this situation or would deleting and recreating the account
-- either using kuser or userdel -- be the simplest and best method?
Please cc me as I am not currently subscribing to the list.
Since you only just created the user, I'd just go ahead and delete it
(use:
# cd /var/tmp
# deluser --remove-all-files --backup
then use adduser to create the new user
To be safe, I'd then examine the backup tarball to ensure that nothing
was removed accidentally, before deleting the tarball.
I've never used (or heard of) kuser to know why it created uid 500.
I usually (rightly or wrongly) vim /etc/passwd, then find / -uid 500 -exec
chmod 1000 {} \; and maybe the same if I have to change the gid.
Doug.
Let me see if I understand this correctly. Here's what it appears to me
that I should do.
First Ill use vipw to edit /etc/passwd and vipw -s to edit the
shadowfile to change the uid.
Then edit with vigr and vigr -s /etc/group and the shadow file to
change the gid.
Now to change files out in the system:
find / -uid 500 -exec chmod 1000 {} \
Find files with a uid of 500 and execute the command chmod to change
the uid to 1001 (I'm 1000, so my daughter will be 1001).
And finally to change the files with a gid of 500 to 1001:
find / -gid 500 -exec chmod 1001 {} \
Then I should do usermod -u 1001 username
to change the user's uid.
Is order important here?
I'm tempted to try this instead of using deluser.
-Elmer
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Help! Corrupted filesystem
Greetings: I'm running an IBM R40 laptop with three systems: Debian Sarge (which I use primarily), Knopix 3.4 hd install, and WinXP. This morning I booted to Knoppix to look at some bookmarks on that system. I forgot to unplug the PCMCIA card modem, so it stopped there at boot. I unplugged it and completed the boot, doing an fsck because it hadn't been done in a while. Then when I attempted later to reboot to Debian, I got the following message: fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004) / contains a file system with errors, checked forced. /: Inodes that were part of a corrupted orphan linked list found. /: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY: RUN fsck MANUALLY. (i.e., without -a or -p options) fsck failed. Please repair manually and reboot. Please note that root file system is currently mounted read-only. To remount it to read-write: # mount -n -o remount ,rw / A previous list post back in 2003 seemed to indicate the most likely cause of the above is a hard drive failure. Opinions? I rebooted to Knoppix to try to back up the data, but K3b won't burn a CD, indicating that it seems to be a buffer underrun. I turned off burnfree and manually selected 2x but still no success. I have a Knoppix 4.0.2 CD so I could try burning on the fly, but then I'd be really likely to have an underrun. Any ideas how to save this data? Should I fsck from a Knopix CD or do it from my Knoppix hd install or do it from the Debian command line? Does it matter at all? Am I correct in assuming that I need to mount the partition in read-write mode in order for fsck to fix the problems? Any advice is welcome. Elmer E. Dow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delete part of metapackage?
Greetings: I'm loading Sarge onto a donated computer at a school for K through grade 2. The hard drive has only a 2.2 GB capacity, so once I load the KDE and Gnome metapackages I only have about 120 MB left. The kids don't need all of this software, but it seems that I can't delete or install individual programs (knode, for example) without deleting or installing the entire KDE metapackage. Is that correct? Is there a way around this? -- Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Delete part of metapackage?
On Sunday 27 August 2006 08:58 pm, Paul E Condon wrote: On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 01:23:26PM +, Elmer E. Dow wrote: Greetings: I'm loading Sarge onto a donated computer at a school for K through grade 2. The hard drive has only a 2.2 GB capacity, so once I load the KDE and Gnome metapackages I only have about 120 MB left. The kids don't need all of this software, but it seems that I can't delete or install individual programs (knode, for example) without deleting or installing the entire KDE metapackage. Is that correct? ^^^No. Is there a way around this? Yes. I'm guessing you are using aptitude to manage the package installs. If so, read on. If not aptitude, you need help from someone else. I'm using aptitude from the command line rather than using the menus. For aptitude: Use apt-get remove a metapackage name Then you can remove select packages in aptitude without questions about the metapackage getting in your way. So removing the metapackage actually removes no program but simply disconnects them so they can be handled separately? How then would you remove the entire metapackage? I had tried aptitude purge kde and it seemed that nothing disappeared. In fact, the result of aptitude show kde indicated that kde (I assume the metapackage) was still installed. Is this because the programs that were part of the package still exist? If this is true, how would one delete the entire metapackage? Also, consider getting rid of either gnome or kde. In a situation in which you can't afford a larger hard disk, you hardly need both, IMHO. -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] My thoughts exactly. I want to save some of the Gnome metapackage's software, but delete gnome window manager and gdm. What's Gnome's window manager package called? Gnome-desktop-environment, gnome-core, etc. all have programs as a part of the package. Is it possible to delete the whole Gnome metapackage, then install just the individual programs that I need? -- Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: thinkpad value for money?
On Tuesday 08 August 2006 01:23 am, Tyler Smith wrote: Hi all, Fishing for more advice on a laptop purchase here. In an earlier thread on this list just about everyone was plugging thinkpads as the way to go. My budget is a little on the light side, but I could manage a 'low-end' thinkpad like an R51 or maybe a T42. However, I notice that the specs on comparably priced, or somewhat cheaper, Dells (Inspiron e1505), Toshibas (A105), Lenovo (3000) and Compaqs are generally better than what I'd get with a thinkpad. These brands/models seem to get higher ratings in a lot of the on- and off-line magazines, while more geek-oriented sites push the thinkpads. My needs are pretty ordinary: web, email, editing text and code, basic image manipulation, some scientific computing. I listen to some audio podcasts and streaming radio, but I don't otherwise use my computer for music, movies, or games. I've been managing quite well on a six year old 700mhz desktop with 392 ram, so anything I get will be a big improvement in terms of performance. My main goal is to have a solid, portable system that plays well with Debian and will give me hopefully another 6 years of regular use. I will need a decent, full-size keyboard, as I plan to do most of my work on this machine. So my question is: is a 'low end' thinkpad worth the mark-up over what Dell and Toshiba have on offer? Thanks! Tyler After much comparison, I bought a Thinkpad R40 type 2897-54U and have been very satisfied. Yes, I paid more and got less icing on the cake, but the quality is great and I haven't experienced any problems. Kinda like buying a Honda versus a Chevy. My R40 has a great keyboard. Others that I test drove were mushy, etc. I was recently behind a friend's other-brand unit and couldn't wait to get behind my Thinkpad keyboard again. The Trackpoint is great; I disabled the touchpad. Next time I'll save money and get just the Trackpoint. The only Linux-related problem was the Agere Systems winmodem. After heroic efforts from the guys at Linmodems.org, it worked, but not without glitches. Agere pulled their driver from their site, so I guess they realized it didn't work well. I now use a Linksys pcmcia card modem. Did you look at the economy R40e models? For what you seem to be wanting, they should be fine. A friend went that route and is very satisfied. By the way, as you probably know, Lenovo bought IBM's desktop and laptop division. -- Elmer E. Dow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message files not rotating
I discovered that /var/log/messages is 428.6 MB on my IBM R40 laptop running Sarge. I see /var/log/messages.1.gz, to messages.6.gz. None of those are more than 302 KB and they're a year old. Syslog is in a similar situation. Other log files aren't so big, but they haven't been rotated in a year either. Why did rotation stop? How do I start it again? Logrotate was installed. I just got rid of it. Could it have been interfering? -- Elmer E. Dow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Message files not rotating
On Sunday 06 August 2006 09:43 pm, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 02:31:40PM +, Elmer E. Dow wrote: I discovered that /var/log/messages is 428.6 MB on my IBM R40 laptop running Sarge. I see /var/log/messages.1.gz, to messages.6.gz. None of those are more than 302 KB and they're a year old. Syslog is in a similar situation. Other log files aren't so big, but they haven't been rotated in a year either. Why did rotation stop? How do I start it again? Logrotate was installed. I just got rid of it. Could it have been interfering? umm... logrotate rotates the logs. removing it will prevent the logs from being rotated. check man logrotate to get the output from logrotate emailed to you so you can see what it happening. you should confirm that there is still a cron job for log rotate. When I've had problems with logrotate in the past is has been a permissions issue, so maybe you have changed some permissons inadvertantly causing this problem. A From the reading I've done recently, I was under the impression that Debian (unlike RedHat) used syslogd and cron to handle log rotation. According to http://www.ducea.com/2006/06/06/rotating-linux-log-files/ , log rotation is handled in two ways on a Debian system (in contrast to RedHat, etc.). Most system log files are rotated by syslog itself and not by using logrotate. Logrotate is the default choice for all other log files (application logs). Indeed, /etc/logrotate.d contains scripts for apps (aptitude, exim4-base, ppp, etc.), while # /usr/sbin/syslogd-listfiles --weekly /var/log/mail.warn /var/log/uucp.log /var/log/user.log /var/log/daemon.log /var/log/messages /var/log/debug /var/log/auth.log /var/log/mail.err /var/log/mail.log /var/log/kern.log /var/log/lpr.log /var/log/mail.info R40:/home/ellsworth# Logrotate isn't listed in a cron job since I deleted the logroate package, but strangely logrotate.d still exists. I hope that reinstalling logrotate will set it up again. You're right, I need to put logrotate back for the apps, but it appears that it's syslogd's responsibility to rotate system logs. I've seen quite a bit online about changing a Debian system to use logrotate for system files, but I haven't done that here. Feel free to enlighten me if I'm wrong in my understanding of this. What could I have done to have messed up what syslogd should be doing? I checked, and syslogd has a script file in cron.daily and cron.weekly with correct permissions. Now what? -- Elmer E. Dow
Re: Message files not rotating
On Monday 07 August 2006 12:20 am, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 17:23:13 +, Elmer E. Dow wrote: On Sunday 06 August 2006 09:43 pm, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 02:31:40PM +, Elmer E. Dow wrote: I discovered that /var/log/messages is 428.6 MB on my IBM R40 laptop running Sarge. I see /var/log/messages.1.gz, to messages.6.gz. None of those are more than 302 KB and they're a year old. Syslog is in a similar situation. Other log files aren't so big, but they haven't been rotated in a year either. Why did rotation stop? How do I start it again? Logrotate was installed. I just got rid of it. Could it have been interfering? umm... logrotate rotates the logs. removing it will prevent the logs from being rotated. check man logrotate to get the output from logrotate emailed to you so you can see what it happening. you should confirm that there is still a cron job for log rotate. When I've had problems with logrotate in the past is has been a permissions issue, so maybe you have changed some permissons inadvertantly causing this problem. A From the reading I've done recently, I was under the impression that Debian (unlike RedHat) used syslogd and cron to handle log rotation. According to http://www.ducea.com/2006/06/06/rotating-linux-log-files/ , log rotation is handled in two ways on a Debian system (in contrast to RedHat, etc.). Most system log files are rotated by syslog itself and not by using logrotate. Logrotate is the default choice for all other log files (application logs). Indeed, /etc/logrotate.d contains scripts for apps (aptitude, exim4-base, ppp, etc.), while # /usr/sbin/syslogd-listfiles --weekly /var/log/mail.warn /var/log/uucp.log /var/log/user.log /var/log/daemon.log /var/log/messages /var/log/debug /var/log/auth.log /var/log/mail.err /var/log/mail.log /var/log/kern.log /var/log/lpr.log /var/log/mail.info R40:/home/ellsworth# Logrotate isn't listed in a cron job since I deleted the logroate package, but strangely logrotate.d still exists. I hope that reinstalling logrotate will set it up again. You're right, I need to put logrotate back for the apps, but it appears that it's syslogd's responsibility to rotate system logs. I've seen quite a bit online about changing a Debian system to use logrotate for system files, but I haven't done that here. Feel free to enlighten me if I'm wrong in my understanding of this. What could I have done to have messed up what syslogd should be doing? I checked, and syslogd has a script file in cron.daily and cron.weekly with correct permissions. Now what? Are you sure that the cronjobs actually run during the night? You could put a short script into /etc/cron.daily, just touch /tmp/cron-flag or something similar, to rule out problems with your cron setup. -- Regards, Florian I noticed that the system-wide crontab seems to call for anacron. See below. R40:/home/ellsworth# cat /etc/crontab # /etc/crontab: system-wide crontab # Unlike any other crontab you don't have to run the `crontab' # command to install the new version when you edit this file. # This file also has a username field, that none of the other crontabs do. SHELL=/bin/sh PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin # m h dom mon dow user command 17 ** * * rootrun-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly 25 6* * * roottest -x /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily 47 6* * 7 roottest -x /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.weekly 52 61 * * roottest -x /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts --report /etc/cron.monthly # R40:/home/ellsworth# Given that this is a laptop, that made sense, so I installed it. Bingo! It immediately started to run cron jobs, rotating logs, etc. Now I remember that I'd used ancron for this when running RedHat on this laptop a few years ago. One more question: Is it possible to run cron jobs manually? That way I could run cron at my convenience, rather than tie up system resources while I'm working. Thanks for you help. -- Elmer E. Dow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message: codec_write 1: semaphore is not ready
Greetings: I'm running Sarge on an IBM R40 laptop. I'm getting the following message constantly repeated in /var/log/messages: Aug 31 22:23:23 localhost kernel: codec_write 1: semaphore is not ready for register 0x54 Aug 31 22:23:23 localhost kernel: codec_semaphore: semaphore is not ready [0x1][0x700304] A while back I had cured this problem by adding snd-intel8x0m to my /etc/hotplug/blacklist file. I have a softmodem (I use a PCMCIA card instead since the softmodem driver was buggy) and was told that hotplugging was loading the driver for the intel8x0 softmodem, and that was interfering with my soundcard. Worked once. Now it's happening again. I was setting up pmount, checked messages and there it was again. I'm running OSS for sound, though have been contemplating switching to alsa. Any ideas on how to fix the problem and get rid of this message? -- Elmer E. Dow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Outdated Sarge kpdf
I'm running Sarge and discovering that often kpdf either crashes or fails to display pdf files properly. For example, attempting to view IRS forms displays the forms in 11x14 format instead of 8.5x11. I booted WinXp and used Acrobat Reader 5.0 there and it tells me that I should upgrade to at least 5.1 (I think 7 is the latest release). It'll view the files, just not offer the latest features. Some files on the State of Montana's DOJ site simply crash kpdf. Am I correct in assuming that the best way around this in Debian is running a mixed system and using kpdf from Sid? I'm leery of messing something up by doing so. I looked at going to ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main to get a nonfree version, but I think that's only Reader 5.0 and I've run across some info at http://wiki.debian.org/PDFViewers that says: To install acroread-plugin, you have to un-install [Xine]-ui package and viceversa. Pain. And, if I recall correctly, Acrobat Reader takes up about 100MB. How are the rest of you dealing with a need for a more up-to-date reader in Sarge? Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenOffice 2.0 Sarge or Etch
On Wednesday 08 February 2006 04:18 pm, Sridhar M.A. wrote: On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 03:33:00PM +, L.V.Gandhi wrote: On 2/8/06, Sridhar M.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 05:19:58AM +, L.V.Gandhi wrote: On 2/8/06, Sridhar M.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using OpenOffice 2.0 on sarge from backports. I have not noticed any problems so far. What is net address of backports for sources list file? Is it upgrading sarge oo1.1.3 or installs additionally? Here is my sources.list: deb http://ftp.debian.org stable main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free # The unoficial repository for mpeg and related stuff deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main # The unofficial scribus deb http://debian.scribus.net/debian/ stable main non-free contrib # Backports deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ sarge-backports main non-free Thanks for the info Is it upgrading sarge oo1.1.3 to OO 2 or installs additionally? It upgrades. Greetings: Am running Sarge, too, and would like some of the newer features of OO 2, but was wondering if it can be installed in addition to the earlier version so that I can test it before removing the earlier version. Could OO 2's newer dependencies cause an upgrading of something that will make something existing not work? Elmer E. Dow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ktuberling
On Tuesday 17 January 2006 03:13 am, Kent West wrote: Kent West wrote: Elmer E. Dow wrote: Greetings: My four-year-old ktuberling user is getting the following message when trying to load the program: Fatal error: Unable to load the picture, aborting. The program works fine for the other three users on the machine, but won't even load for her. Since this is the case -- and everyone else can load the graphics, I assume that she's deleted some picture that resides in her home directory. (Remember: She's four years old and has a very limited reading vocabulary and thus might have deleted something necessary by accident.) I don't however find anything that seems ktuberling-related on the other users' directories. How do I fix this or go about finding the problem? Elmer I'd look in her home directory for a .ktuberling directory, or something similar, and delete/move/rename it. Looks like it might be ~/.kde/share/apps/ktuberling -- Kent Renamed ~.kde/share/config/ktuberlingrc and it works just fine now. I thank you and my four-year-old user thanks you. Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power down
On Tuesday 17 January 2006 12:58 pm, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:17:59 + Elmer E. Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:02:58 + Elmer E. Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vincent Smeets wrote: Hallo, I have an old (1999) computer too. dmesg showed that the kernel does find my ACPI but doesn't use it because my bios is too old. It says something like ... bios too old (1999 2001). I now use the kernel parameter acpi=force and now the kernel is using my ACPI. Poweroff does now realy switch the power off! I've read that acpi=force works with 2.4 kernels but not 2.6 like mine. What kernel are you using? If you look at your dmesg it suggests just that, enabling it. It can't hurt to try Also, power management is enabled in the bios. Is that correct or is it fighting apm? Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrei acpi=force works! I first tried removing apmd, deleting apm in /etc/modules and adding acpi there. I also installed acpid and so on, but the machine complained of fatal errors, etc. So I uninstalled acpid, deleted acpi in /etc/modules and left just acpi=force in menu.lst -- and it worked. So now I'm wondering how this works without the acpi module or having acpi compiled into the kernel. Does forcing acpi just makes it use the power management in the bios? Thanks, gentlemen, for your kind assistance. Elmer lsmod should tell you what modules you have loaded. I bet 'acpi' is there. You should also install acpid and acpitool to have some control/monitoring (was that a laptop?). But that's just fine-tuning ;) Andrei -- No acpi in the list from lsmod. The computer in question is an old Dell 333 desktop. Acpi works ok on my IBM R40 laptop. Lsmod on the latter doesn't list acpi, but does list ac and battery which are related tools. Acpid works on the laptop, but just results in logging fatal errors on the desktop. Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power down
Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Noah Dain wrote: My computer says power down when I shut it down. I just upgraded from kernel 2.4 to 2.6 in Debian Sarge, and of course I want it to shutdown automatically. What should I do to fix this? I had a bunch of crappy dells (is there any other kind?) that did this. I disabled acpi support via the kernel param: acpi=off I then added apm to /etc/modules so apm is loaded on every boot, and installed/started apmd (although apmd may not be necessary). be sure to add acpi=off to /boot/grub/menu.lst like: ## ## Start Default Options ## ## A FEW LINES OF COMMENTS IN HERE ... # kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro acpi=off then run (as root): update-grub then, reboot. I'm sure there's a way to get acpi to work, but apm has always just worked for me. On my Thinkpad R51 upgrading to a newer kernel (I now run a custom 2.6.12) did the trick (now I can use acpi). Johannes I have an old Dell 333 desktop with Sarge and 2.6 kernel. I tried the above instructions with no success. Any further ideas? Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power down
Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Elmer E. Dow wrote: I have an old Dell 333 desktop with Sarge and 2.6 kernel. I tried the above instructions with no success. Any further ideas? Are you shure that power down is supported by your bios? On rather old hardware it might not be supported at all. Then you just have to turn the switch by hand. Johannes It worked with Win98, Red Hat and Libranet. Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power down
Andrei Popescu wrote: Do you have apm=power_off passed to your kernel? Andrei On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:06:26 + Elmer E. Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Noah Dain wrote: My computer says power down when I shut it down. I just upgraded from kernel 2.4 to 2.6 in Debian Sarge, and of course I want it to shutdown automatically. What should I do to fix this? I had a bunch of crappy dells (is there any other kind?) that did this. I disabled acpi support via the kernel param: acpi=off I then added apm to /etc/modules so apm is loaded on every boot, and installed/started apmd (although apmd may not be necessary). be sure to add acpi=off to /boot/grub/menu.lst like: ## ## Start Default Options ## ## A FEW LINES OF COMMENTS IN HERE ... # kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro acpi=off then run (as root): update-grub then, reboot. I'm sure there's a way to get acpi to work, but apm has always just worked for me. On my Thinkpad R51 upgrading to a newer kernel (I now run a custom 2.6.12) did the trick (now I can use acpi). Johannes I have an old Dell 333 desktop with Sarge and 2.6 kernel. I tried the above instructions with no success. Any further ideas? Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just tried adding apm=power_off to /boot/grub/menu.lst. No change in behavior. Still no shutting off at powerdown. Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power down
Noah Dain wrote: On 1/16/06, Elmer E. Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: Do you have apm=power_off passed to your kernel? Andrei On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:06:26 + Elmer E. Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Johannes Wiedersich wrote: Noah Dain wrote: My computer says power down when I shut it down. I just upgraded from kernel 2.4 to 2.6 in Debian Sarge, and of course I want it to shutdown automatically. What should I do to fix this? I had a bunch of crappy dells (is there any other kind?) that did this. I disabled acpi support via the kernel param: acpi=off I then added apm to /etc/modules so apm is loaded on every boot, and installed/started apmd (although apmd may not be necessary). be sure to add acpi=off to /boot/grub/menu.lst like: ## ## Start Default Options ## ## A FEW LINES OF COMMENTS IN HERE ... # kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro acpi=off then run (as root): update-grub then, reboot. I'm sure there's a way to get acpi to work, but apm has always just worked for me. On my Thinkpad R51 upgrading to a newer kernel (I now run a custom 2.6.12) did the trick (now I can use acpi). Johannes I have an old Dell 333 desktop with Sarge and 2.6 kernel. I tried the above instructions with no success. Any further ideas? Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just tried adding apm=power_off to /boot/grub/menu.lst. No change in behavior. Still no shutting off at powerdown. Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] we probably need to see your dmesg right after boot. there may be something in there to hint at what it wrong. dmesg file.txt -- Noah Dain Single failures can occur for a variety of reasons that have nothing to do with a hardware defect, such as cosmic radiation ... - IBM Thinkpad R40 maintenance manual, page 25 Here's dmesg. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dmesg Linux version 2.6.8-2-386 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-12)) #1 Thu May 19 17:40:50 JST 2005 BIOS-provided physical RAM map: BIOS-e820: - 0009f800 (usable) BIOS-e820: 0009f800 - 000a (reserved) BIOS-e820: 000e7400 - 0010 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0010 - 040fdc00 (usable) BIOS-e820: 040fdc00 - 040ff800 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: 040ff800 - 040ffc00 (ACPI NVS) BIOS-e820: 040ffc00 - 0c00 (usable) BIOS-e820: fffe7400 - 0001 (reserved) 192MB LOWMEM available. On node 0 totalpages: 49152 DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1 Normal zone: 45056 pages, LIFO batch:11 HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1 DMI 2.1 present. ACPI disabled because your bios is from 99 and too old You can enable it with acpi=force Built 1 zonelists Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda1 ro acpi=off apm=power_off Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- reenabling. Found and enabled local APIC! Initializing CPU#0 PID hash table entries: 1024 (order 10: 8192 bytes) Detected 331.985 MHz processor. Using tsc for high-res timesource Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Dentry cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes) Memory: 187476k/196608k available (1336k kernel code, 8468k reserved, 732k data, 204k init, 0k highmem) Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok. Calibrating delay loop... 653.31 BogoMIPS Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) CPU: After generic identify, caps: 0183fbff CPU: After vendor identify, caps: 0183fbff CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K CPU: L2 cache: 128K CPU: After all inits, caps:0183fbff 0040 CPU: Intel Celeron (Mendocino) stepping 00 Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. Checking for popad bug... OK. enabled ExtINT on CPU#0 ESR value before enabling vector: ESR value after enabling vector: Using local APIC timer interrupts. calibrating APIC timer ... . CPU clock speed is 331.0791 MHz. . host bus clock speed is 66.0358 MHz. checking if image is initramfs...it isn't (ungzip failed); looks like an initrd Freeing initrd memory: 4216k freed NET: Registered protocol family 16 EISA bus registered PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd994, last bus=1 PCI: Using configuration type 1 mtrr: v2.0 (20020519) ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040326 ACPI: Interpreter disabled. Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay PnPBIOS: Scanning system for PnP BIOS support... PnPBIOS: Found PnP BIOS installation structure at 0xc00f6fb0 PnPBIOS: PnP BIOS version 1.0, entry 0xf:0x9db6, dseg 0x400 pnp: 00
Re: Power down
Vincent Smeets wrote: Hallo, I have an old (1999) computer too. dmesg showed that the kernel does find my ACPI but doesn't use it because my bios is too old. It says something like ... bios too old (1999 2001). I now use the kernel parameter acpi=force and now the kernel is using my ACPI. Poweroff does now realy switch the power off! I've read that acpi=force works with 2.4 kernels but not 2.6 like mine. What kernel are you using? Also, power management is enabled in the bios. Is that correct or is it fighting apm? Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Power down
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:02:58 + Elmer E. Dow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vincent Smeets wrote: Hallo, I have an old (1999) computer too. dmesg showed that the kernel does find my ACPI but doesn't use it because my bios is too old. It says something like ... bios too old (1999 2001). I now use the kernel parameter acpi=force and now the kernel is using my ACPI. Poweroff does now realy switch the power off! I've read that acpi=force works with 2.4 kernels but not 2.6 like mine. What kernel are you using? If you look at your dmesg it suggests just that, enabling it. It can't hurt to try Also, power management is enabled in the bios. Is that correct or is it fighting apm? Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrei acpi=force works! I first tried removing apmd, deleting apm in /etc/modules and adding acpi there. I also installed acpid and so on, but the machine complained of fatal errors, etc. So I uninstalled acpid, deleted acpi in /etc/modules and left just acpi=force in menu.lst -- and it worked. So now I'm wondering how this works without the acpi module or having acpi compiled into the kernel. Does forcing acpi just makes it use the power management in the bios? Thanks, gentlemen, for your kind assistance. Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ktuberling
Greetings: My four-year-old ktuberling user is getting the following message when trying to load the program: Fatal error: Unable to load the picture, aborting. The program works fine for the other three users on the machine, but won't even load for her. Since this is the case -- and everyone else can load the graphics, I assume that she's deleted some picture that resides in her home directory. (Remember: She's four years old and has a very limited reading vocabulary and thus might have deleted something necessary by accident.) I don't however find anything that seems ktuberling-related on the other users' directories. How do I fix this or go about finding the problem? Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Replacing KDE shutdown dragon
Greetings: I've been trying to replace that dragon on the KDE logoff gui. I'm running Sarge on both the family desktop machine and on my laptop and found the critter at /usr/share/apps/ksmserver/pics/shudownkong.png. If I change the dragon's filename, the dragon disappears from the logoff. I tried substituting another png file (renaming it shutdownkong.png in the proper directory), but it won't display on the logoff gui. I've found only a couple of other png files on the system that work (such as the kde bomb crash pic -- not quite what I want), but when I try using an image from KDE-Look.org that I've prepped and saved as a png, it just won't display. What am I overlooking? Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Replacing KDE shutdown dragon
On Sunday 15 January 2006 09:13 pm, Elmer E. Dow wrote: Greetings: I've been trying to replace that dragon on the KDE logoff gui. I'm running Sarge on both the family desktop machine and on my laptop and found the critter at /usr/share/apps/ksmserver/pics/shudownkong.png. If I change the dragon's filename, the dragon disappears from the logoff. I tried substituting another png file (renaming it shutdownkong.png in the proper directory), but it won't display on the logoff gui. I've found only a couple of other png files on the system that work (such as the kde bomb crash pic -- not quite what I want), but when I try using an image from KDE-Look.org that I've prepped and saved as a png, it just won't display. What am I overlooking? Elmer Finally discovered that it's shutdownkonq.png, not shutdownkong.png. Elmer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
When should I consider installing suggested packages?
Greetings: When should I consider installing suggested packages? During my limited experience using aptitude in Sarge I've always installed depends and recommended packages, never suggested. Do most users just ignore suggested packages, only installing them if something doesn't work? Please cc me since I'm not currently subscribed. - Elmer E. Dow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: When should I consider installing suggested packages?
On Monday 22 August 2005 03:04 am, Bob Proulx wrote: Elmer E. Dow wrote: When should I consider installing suggested packages? I install them only if I know I need them. Usually I avoid installing suggested packages. I frequently avoid installing recommended packages! Often the maintainers get carried away with extra packages or with recommending their own other packages. When I install software I look at the list of recommended and suggested packages and if one of them seems reasonable I install them as well. But if they do not seem reasonable then I do not install them. The caveat here is that I have been using UNIX/GNU systems for many years and can make a fairly well educated guess at what is reasonable to install or not. But often experience is the only way to learn. And since installing and removing software is so easy I suggest to you that you just try it and gain experience through it. Bob Thanks to all for the input. After reading the reponses to my question, I'm inclined to try experimenting by skipping recommended packages so that I can gain some experience with what happens -- if anything -- and keep the system cleaner and more secure. Again, thanks. -- Elmer E. Dow Please cc me when responding as I am not currently subscribed to the list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newbie selecting package manager
After having used Red Hat 9 and Knoppix (hard disk install), I installed Sarge a while ago and plan to stick with it. Now I need to select a package manager to use that fits my needs. My laptop is used for office applications (creating documents, some graphics, presentation, browsing, e-mail, etc.) and I don't anticipate installing and removing too many applications. I'm leaning toward using apt (and maybe occasionally using Synaptic) rather then Aptitude. Given my use, shouldn't the simplicity of apt be adequate over the long haul? Is using deborphan and -- purge just as effective as Aptitude's cleaning methods? If so, then what's Aptitude's advantage? Or is this just a matter of preference? - Elmer E. Dow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3d accel and agpgart
On Friday 01 July 2005 04:43 am, Wackojacko wrote: This looks similar to the problem I had recently with X not finding my Nvidia module. Try adding the agpgart module to /etc/modules so it is loaded on boot and will be available when X tries to load it. I'm a relative newbie also so I may be barking up the wrong tree but it might be worth a shot. Wackojacko Jackpot! 3d acceleration works great! Glxgears is giving me good numbers and Tuxracer blasts along. Many thanks for your suggestion. - Elmer E. Dow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3d accel and agpgart
Greetings: I'm tryiing to get 3d acceleration working on my IBM R40 laptop running Sarge (3.1). I'm attempting to follow the instructions at http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DriTroubleshooting. It says to do dmesg | grep drm and if it displays nothing, then compile agpgart into your kernel or load it as a module. I can load agpgart with insmod agpgart so I know that the module exists. I tried adding Load: agpgart to /etc/X11/XF86config-4, but then when I do a dmesg | grep agpgart I get: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.7.0 20020828 on minor 0 [drm: radeon unlock] *ERROR* Process 1847 using kernel context 0 XFree86.0.log says: (II) LoadModule: agpgart (WW) Warning, couldn't open module agpgart (II) UnloadModule: agpgart (EE) Failed to load module agpgart (module does not exist, 0) But if I do a insmod agpgart, it says that it already exists. A little later in the instructions, it says that I need to load the agpgart module before the radeon module. XFree86's log indicates that indeed the radeon module loads later. The instructions don't seem to address the above problems. Any ideas? Any input is appreciated, My knowledge and experience is limited. - Elmer E. Dow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boot hang at Starting: MTA
Greetings: I was traveling on business and attempted to connect to the Internet (mail and browse) via a network at the office where I was working. Now that I'm home I notice that when booting the system hangs for approximately 60 seconds at Starting: MTA. I'm pretty green with Linux, but I'm guessing that the mail transfer agent is looking for a mail source (network) that is no longer connected. Is that correct? Whatever the problem, what do I do to fix the situation? My system is running Debian Sarge on an IBM R40 laptop with a Linksys EtherFast 10/100 + 56k modem PC card. - Elmer E. Dow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot hang at Starting: MTA
Indeed it was looking for a network. Found the solution. I went to the network settings GUI and unchecked activate when the computer starts in the properties menu for the ethernet LAN card (eth0). I don't have a network at home, but had used a network while at an out-of-town office. Now it doesn't hang for a minute while searching for the network. Thanks for your suggestions. -Elmer E. Dow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
