Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Floris Bruynooghe
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 09:40:52PM +0100, Norbert Preining wrote:
> On Sam, 27 Jan 2007, Piotr Dziubinski wrote:
> > Iceweasel and Firefox are a different products, very similar, but
> > different.
> 
> Can YOU please explain me what *important* differences there are?
[...]
> Otherwise I would like to see what kind of OPERATIONAL difference you
> have found:

There is actually an operational difference.  In the about:config page
the setting general.useragent.extra.firefox is set to
"Iceweasel/2.0.0.1".  Looks harmless, but it stopped me from logging
on to a website.  It would only let me in when I set it to
"Firefox/2.0.0".

Note: that website lists only Firefox 1.0 on Windows as supported
(among a few other proprietary browsers).  But this setting made the
difference between being able to use it and getting a "browser
unsported" page.  I can imagine less technical users being at a loss
in a similar situation.


Regards
Floris

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Re: device discovery question before doing a motherboard upgrade.

2006-01-20 Thread Floris Bruynooghe
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On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 02:02:57PM -0600, water modem wrote:
> I have given up searching the Debian sites and Google and usenet groups 
> for the answer to a simple question.

This question should really go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here a short attempt from me to answer it though.

> If I want to upgrade a Sarge 2.6 install to a new motherboard without 
> re-installing Debian

Good luck, replacing a motherboard is non-trivial and will never be
"simple" like you state it.  ;-)

> What do I run before or after the hardware upgrade to force device 
> discovery to be repeated?

I'm not really up to date with things like discover or whatever they
are and what they do.  But basically it boils down to knowing what
devices you will be replacing, which chipsets the old and new ones
are.  Then making sure that you kernel can use all of them, either by
recompiling or by having modules around, making sure they will get
loaded.  Then you can try replacing the motherboard and hope
everything will come up.  Depending on what's integrated in the
motherboards some devices could be renamed etc, so on your first
reboot it's a bood idea to boot single user and make sure everyting is
going to be fine, clean up all mess.

If you're using the stock kernel you probably won't have to do
anything to the kernel since all drivers are available by modules
afaik.  They still need to be loaded somehow, discover might do this
for you.  You will likely still have the trouble of renamed devices
etc though.

> I want to do it right without getting in trouble and just can't find any 
> information on the process.

There's many things that can go wrong anywhere along the path.  Did I
mention to take backups?  ;-)

> Thanks

Please direct any follup discussion/questions to
debian-user@lists.debian.org

Regards
Floris


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`who -d' Dead processes

2004-09-20 Thread Floris Bruynooghe
Hello

I had a computer (old PC) running at my student house over the holidays
and was using it (as I am now) to ssh into and do my normal work etc.
Just by accident I discovered the `who -d' command and saw I had a
couple of 100 processes listed that way.  Also they where using up my
pty's.  Coz I was scared of running out of pty's I rebooted the system
since then.  But I get again lots of dead processes.

The thing is that afaik these processes should be connected to init at
some point and then cleaned up.  But the oldest such process was about
28 days old at the time of discovery.  This is what made me concerned.
If I can list them, can't I clean them up?  And why doesn't init do it
by itself?

Floris

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Re: getty's on runlevels 4 & 5

2004-07-13 Thread Floris Bruynooghe
On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 01:34:40PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
> --- Floris Bruynooghe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > I was changing my default runlevels the other day as I wanted runlevel 2
> > to be console only.  But that's next to the point really.
> 
> Then you don't understand how the runlevels are organised in Debian. I
> have explained this in previous posts. X is started in all run-levels 2-5.
> You can stop this by reading 'man update-rc.d' for all or any run-levels.

Hum, I kind of disagree.  I did what is perfectly acceptable in Debian.
Debian leaves runlevels 2-5 to be customised by the sysadmin, if I don't
want X somwhere I modify the symlinks in /etc/rc?.d (when using
sysvinit).  If I want anything else, I can do so.

As already said, this is next to the point anyway and just gave some
background why I looked into /etc/inittab.  I only asked why runlevel 4
and 5 had only 1 getty on the VC's by default in Debian.  Just out of
curiosity, I'm not bothered with it.

Maybe I should have cross-posted to -devel, but I didn't want to flood
them there with such a useless question.  It seems a bit off-topic
there as I'm not questioning anything.

> > What I was wondering about is that in /etc/inittab there are only
> > getty's started (per system default) on all 6 VC's for runlevel 2 & 3,
> > not for runlevel 4 & 5.  Runlevel 4 & 5 only get a getty on one VC.  But
> > ?dm still gets started on all runlevels (appart from 1 & 6 that is of
> > course).
> 
> Runlevel 4 is reserved (thank you, Sun!) so that you can do what you like
> with it. It's there for you to define your own runlevel sequence.

I'm afraid you're wrong again.  Sun has a complete different philosofie
about runlevels then Debian.  By default on Solaris runlevel 2 is not
networked and runlevel 3 is networked iirc.  Runlevel 3 is obviously the
default runlevel in Solaris.  Debian does not do this and leaves all 4
runlevels to the sysadmin to play with.  IIRC there are many threads on
-devel about that issue.
I'm not sure if Sun does anything with runlevel 5 or leaves that to the
sysadmin.  But that's again besides the point, this is Debian.

> > Not that I'm bothered or want to question it or so.  I was only
> > wondering if anyone happened to know the reasoning behind this.  Just
> > out of curiosity.  The (apparenly wrong) knowledge sat somewhere in my
> > poor brain cells that Debian treated runlevels 2, 3, 4 and 5 exactely
> > the same and left it to the sysadmin to modify them.
> 
> (see previous comment).

same here ;-)


floris

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getty's on runlevels 4 & 5

2004-07-13 Thread Floris Bruynooghe
Hi

I was changing my default runlevels the other day as I wanted runlevel 2
to be console only.  But that's next to the point really.

What I was wondering about is that in /etc/inittab there are only
getty's started (per system default) on all 6 VC's for runlevel 2 & 3,
not for runlevel 4 & 5.  Runlevel 4 & 5 only get a getty on one VC.  But
?dm still gets started on all runlevels (appart from 1 & 6 that is of
course).

Not that I'm bothered or want to question it or so.  I was only
wondering if anyone happened to know the reasoning behind this.  Just
out of curiosity.  The (apparenly wrong) knowledge sat somewhere in my
poor brain cells that Debian treated runlevels 2, 3, 4 and 5 exactely
the same and left it to the sysadmin to modify them.

Just being curious really
floris

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Re: What's rc.local in debian?

2003-10-23 Thread Floris Bruynooghe
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 09:53:07PM +0200, Dennis van Turnhout wrote:
> I want to set some hdparm parameters at boot for my system.
> According to a tweak guide this has to be set in rc.local for a redhat
> system.
> 
> What's the file name for a debian server?
I've no idea what rc.local is on RedHat as I've never played around
with some RedHat machine.  However from what you say /etc/rcS.d/
seems the appropriate directroy for the script.  There is also a
README in that directory...

floris

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Re: sed problem

2003-10-21 Thread Floris Bruynooghe
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 10:09:47PM +0100, Dave selby wrote:
> >I need to get the contents of a HTML title tag & put it in a string.
> >
> >ie
> >specialist cards
> >
> >I need the "specialist cards" in  a variable $titlecontents
> >I thought it would be easy with sed
> >
> >sed -n '//,/<\/title>/p'
> >
sed -n 's/\(.*\)<\/title>/\1/gp' would be my most general
solution

floris

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boot-floppies package

2003-05-28 Thread Floris Bruynooghe
Why can't I find the boot-floppies package anymore?  Or is there an other way to make 
custom Debian boot-floppies.
In the installation manual for Woody however they are still mentoined under the 
section `Chapter 10 - Technical Information on the Boot Floppies'.

(I could find the source package)


Thanks,
floris

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Re: setup ?

2003-03-31 Thread Floris Bruynooghe

Not an answer to you question, but this is not really the right list for this.  You 
will get more answers from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (This message is already copied to there 
so you don't have to do it :))

floris


On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 04:24:14AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i am trying to install debian stable, but once i get the option of choosing the 
> langue ( english ) >> us eng , after i have done that it loops back to the langue 
> page the first one i get where i choose en (english) ?? don't see anything about 
> this on faq or help files if it is up there sorry i checked 3 times then i didn't 
> see it ; )


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