Re: DEB vs RPM
>>>>> "jdassen" == jdassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: jdassen> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84 jdassen> On Tue, Sep 29, 1998 at 12:28:57AM +1000, Shao Ying Zhang wrote: >> Lots people have told me that there are more deb packages than rpm. But >> just by looking at the web site rufus.w3.org/linux/RPM/, they have 10434 >> packages listed. jdassen> AFAIK, this count include different versions, ports to non-i386 jdassen> machines, source RPMs, libc5 + libc6 version of just about jdassen> everything, etc. Also, the bigger part of these are not supported jdassen> by Red Hat in any way. jdassen> As such, I don't think this says more than "there are a lot of .rpm jdassen> files around". Indeed. Also, what we noticed was that the quality of the rpm's often varied considerably. Directory paths often changed drastically from one package to the other and other woes that stem from having just about anybody making up a RPM, then sticking them on a FTP server. The Debian system of having large numbers of individual maintainers makes for much better packages. -- Nicolai P Guba BT Labs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel Strategies
>>>>> "Manoj" == M C Vernon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Chad> My personal guidelines (and really, I hope all that one would Chad> need to know) exist in /usr/doc/kernel-package/README.gz. I have Chad> included in there a step by step process to creating kernel Chad> packages. If I have missed something, or there are things you do not Chad> understand, please mail me. Manoj> which package does this come with? I only have /usr/doc/kernel-source Manoj> and /usr/doc/kernel-headers :( You need to install the package `kernel-package', like the directory name suggests. Debian is very consistent wrt this naming scheme. -- Nicolai P Guba BT Laboratories GNU Project http://www.labs.bt.com http://www.gnu.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Postgresql refure to connect
>>>>> "Giuseppe" == Giuseppe Sacco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Giuseppe> Organization: HSO Business Company Giuseppe> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) Molto grazie Giuseppe ;) Giuseppe> About the second problem you said thet I should delete the file in Giuseppe> /tmp/.s.PGSQL. but this file does not esists! This is the Giuseppe> problem. I am not sure but I think that the /tmp directory is Giuseppe> completely cleaned during system startup. Hmmm, I rebooted often enough and found that the file existed and thus the postmaster failed to start up. Note that you also want to edit the (very good) startup script in /etc/init.d if you want postgres to accept tcp connections (not enabled by default). I'd use the starup script to start/stop postgres. /etc/init.d/postgresql start /etc/init.d/postgresql stop Also, check /etc/postgresql/postgresql.init. It should define /var/log/postgresql.log as logfile. Increasing the debug level should give you more clues as to what is going wrong. Be careful not to leave the debug level high if diskspace is scarce. With a high loglevel the output file can grow enormously. Once you get used to how postgres works it's a very good and useful tool. Don't forget the documentation (also available via dwww). Digging on the psql website (http://www.postgresql.org) should also provide you with more answers. There is a searchable email archive which you could use to search what users have said on similar problems. Happy Hacking! -- Nicolai P Guba BT Laboratories GNU Project http://www.labs.bt.com http://www.gnu.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Postgresql refure to connect
>>>>> "Giuseppe" == Giuseppe Sacco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Giuseppe> Organization: HSO Business Company Giuseppe> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) Giuseppe> hsogso:~# psql Giuseppe> Connection to database 'template1' failed. Giuseppe> FATAL 1: SetUserId: user "root" is not in "pg_shadow" Root is NOT the superuser in postgres. You need to log on as user postgres. As root do a `su - postgres' and set up your database. You can add new users via a script, namely `createuser'. The script will prompt you whether the new user is able to create/delete/modify databases and tables. Giuseppe> And then, after reboot I cannot start the server: Giuseppe> hsogso:/tmp# /etc/init.d/postgresql start Giuseppe> Starting PostgreSQL postmaster Giuseppe> FATAL: StreamServerPort: bind() failed: errno=13 Giuseppe> Is another postmaster already running on that port? Giuseppe> If not, remove socket node (/tmp/.s.PGSQL.)and retry. Giuseppe> /usr/lib/postgresql/bin/postmaster: cannot create UNIX stream port I observed the same problem. Could be a bug with the debian postgres startup script, could be a bug with postgres not deleting the file on shutdown. Just delete that file and you can restart the server. Maybe the startup script should check for existence of that file after shutdown and remove it if it's still there. -- Nicolai P Guba BT Laboratories GNU Project http://www.labs.bt.com http://www.gnu.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian DSELECT
>>>>> "Martin" == Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Joris> 2. D O C U M E N T A T I O N ( why all these cryptic files and no real Joris> database ??? HTML yes?) There are manpages, which are often quite good help if all you need is a summary and a reminder of what things do. From all the Linux distributions, Debian has the best man-db setup. There are the GNU Info files. There are numerous documents written in postscript, there are the books from O'Reilly and you have the Debian documentation project. One of the strong points of a Linux based system is that there is so much documentation about. Maybe you don't know yet what you are looking for... Martin> There is a real database. It's called PostgreSQL and comes as a Martin> set of *ponder* five packages, or so. Indeed. I am very happy with PostgreSQL. Can only recommend it Oracle and Sybase have announced support for Linux too... Joris> Installing and removing LOOKS easy but there's very little REAL Joris> version/dependency checking done. You cannot be serious! >> Geez, sometimes i start thinking of winDOWs as a better platform just >> because one can up a system Martin> ??? Huh? Martin> Maybe it's a major lack in the whole community that there are only Martin> not free wordprocessors? I have to admit that I don't need such Martin> programs since I'm able to use the power of LaTeX. Not really. Why should one make such demands when there are very good alternatives around. I once showed a LaTeX'd document to a high court judge, and he was so impressed with it that he actually started to learn to write LaTeX although he never bothered writing a single line of code. He was the opinion that the documents just look so much better with LaTeX, and I agree. -- Nicolai P Guba BT Laboratories GNU Project http://www.labs.bt.com http://www.gnu.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Broken emacs
>>>>> "Mark" == Mark W Eichin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mark> X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.56/Emacs 19.34 >> This was precisely the problem. The EMACSLOADPATH was set in my >> user account, and I was trying to install in a window with su root, Mark> Ahhh. I think it would be reasonable to explicitly unset this (and Mark> probably other variables) in the emacsen-common handler Mark> scripts... just as they should avoid running the user (or root's) Mark> .emacs file... Agree. Who's going to contact the maintainer(s)? -- Nicolai P Guba BT Laboratories GNU Project http://www.labs.bt.com http://www.gnu.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Database Client
>>>>> "Kent" == Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Kent> Organization: Abilene Christian University Kent> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.34 i586) Kent> Okay. I found the pgsql file (although I wonder why locate didn't find Kent> it, even after I did an updatedb). Still, since I don't know what I'm Kent> doing, will this app do what I want it to? Kent> Thanks. I doubt it, since it is the interface to the postgres db system. Not sure whether you can connect with it to other rdbms. Maybe you ought to look into ODBC stuff, which MS-SQL Server supports. When I was in my final year, my Uni switched from SunOS to Lignux (Debian, incidentally, hehehe) and they offered a dual-boot, nt and debian. Administering the Debian network side never took much time accrdng to the admins, it's the nt side of things that cost them a lot of time... -- Nicolai P Guba BT Laboratories GNU Project http://www.labs.bt.com http://www.gnu.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [off topic] Slashdot announce 2.0beta2
"BM" == Brandon Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: BM> Why not date the betas? I think everyone knows what is happening when BM> you do this, and they aren't left wondering when the heck beta2 came out BM> when the name is 2.0-beta-1998-7-9. Good idea. Subversions might be useful too. IE 2.0-beta-1, 2.0-beta-2 etc... -- Nicolai P Guba, BSc(Hons) Distributed Systems Group Managerial Professional Grade BT Networks and Systems BT Research LaboratoriesApplied Research and Technology Martlesham Heath, Suffolk IP3 8SR pp B54/R73 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null
