Re: Debian 5 installation
You think, Cameleon, that I am picky because I think an OS with an automatic configuration should be able to correctly configure a Nvidia TNT2 video card with a CMedia sound board. Slackware and Zenwalk do a fine job of it. Let me say that in one regard you are mistaken You must register first before using this userlist. Secondly I don't appreciate you editing my messages! I know it makes you look great but it aint honest. You have told me absolutely nothing except to seek help from outside and it's probably the best piece of advice I have received. Thank you. - Original Message - From: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com To: Debian [en] debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Debian 5 installation El 2010-12-06 a las 08:33 -, Harry escribió: (resending to the list) - Original Message - From: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 12:59 PM Subject: Re: Debian 5 installation On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 12:36:20 +, Harry Scott wrote: I wanted help to install a nvidia legacy graphics driver for TNT 2 AGP so I thought to contact the user lists for guidance. This was not possible because: 1 When I tried to use evolution after asking permission (used windows mail to confirm) I couldn't move its window up to click on forward. The default vga video setting making the window too large. You can post over http. 2 I thought, having read the installation instructions, Lenny would note that a nvidia driver was needed. Looking at the xorg.conf file it obviously couldn't. Configured device was all it said. You don't need the nvidia driver, nv is the default and should work just fine. 3 I read the Debian wiki after downloading appropriate driver from Nvidia. And downloaded nvidia-xconfig the missing piece of the puzzle. I think your help on the installation is ego-centric. Is it possible to get easier assistance? Nothing in linux concerning closed source drivers is easy by definition :-) I installed nvidia proprietary drivers by following Debian wiki steps: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers Just ensure you install the nvidia driver suitable for your card. OTOH, I did not install nvidia-xconfig package, just edited my /etc/ X11/xorg.file to tell X server to load the nvidia driver instead the open one: *** Section Device Identifier Configured Video Device Driver nvidia EndSection *** Your reply makes no sense: I had to use Evolution to sign in to this group. Which I did via windows. Evolution is not able to be set up using vga. Of course Debian could use another emailer but that,s another thing. First, this mailing list does not require you to sign in order to read and post messages. It is open, no subscription needed. Second, you can post a message over http. In the event you cannot setup an e-mail client (like Evolution or Mutt -the latter does not even need a GUI-) you can go to Gmane and use their http gateway: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user Select the message you want to reply, click over the jump menu followup, and you're done. Not so difficult and very convenient when no MUA available. You seem to believe in miracles: the xorg.conf controls the setting of the graphics card and that comes as a contrived piece of software using the term configured device. To automatically generate an xorg.conf file I had to download nvidia-xconfig or face manually changing it. Again, I have not installed nvidia-xconfig app, it is an optional step. And I did it manually. Google is plenty of sites describing the lines you have to fill in xorg.conf for your VGA. Heck, even Debian wiki tells you how to do it: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Modifyanexistingxorg.conf Since I don't know what drivers are installed that's my point about the it's all automatic. You installed nvidia driver (or so you said). But if by automatic you mean that the system should have auto-configured your xorg.conf to use the closed nvidia driver, that will no happen. Is the user who has to manually set what driver wants to use, at least for now. From a developer point of view he knows what's there but this idiot doesn't I'm afraid. I'm not a developer. I'm a plain user, like you. And when I don't know something, I search in Google or ask in mailing lists, like you. What I fail to see is which of my words disgusted you. I have partially cured the driver problem but I need to fix the range since it's too great for the monitor and seems to need changing each time I use it. By range you mean screen resolution or dpi? Better if you upload a snapshot to www.picpaste.com so we can see the problem. Before I do that I have to get sound from my c-media driver. If you need advice, ask. But no need to
Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP
You can avoid the 8GB trap if you use GRUB as you have done. But i think it's because Grub can be placed elsewhere than on the MBR. It's a chronic problem with LILO cos there's no other place for it. The normal work-around is to use an 8GB primary partion C with another larger one D made later when setting up the linux system. - Original Message - From: Mark To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 9:30 PM Subject: Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Freddie Exall freddie_sig...@gmx.co.uk wrote: I have to chip in that I've never had any such problem with gparted or grub with a winxp partition of 8GB (currently 30GB), with grub on MBR. Osprober's always done its job and gparted has served me well for as long as I've needed it. I've had this setup for a while (well, over a year anyway;) now so maybe something broke? Maybe I'm just lucky. [snip] Same here. I use either 20 or 30 gb partitions for XP and have no problems with grub or dual-booting. Pretty sure it's a partition table thing and someone already mentioned using cfdisk, which can be done from booting to the Ubuntu Live CD before installing. Mark
Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP
I am sure you're right. But if you try to boot different partitions from the MBR with Lilo it often fails when the first partion is 8GB. I don't know Grub so well but it is possible to mount this elsewhere than on the MBR which avoids the problem and Grub2 is even more advantageous. - Original Message - From: Freddie Exall freddie_sig...@gmx.co.uk To: Harry harry.sc...@blueyonder.co.uk Cc: bdebr...@teaser.fr; debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 9:19 PM Subject: Re: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, Harry wrote: I'm guessing that Gparted has divided your disk into one smaller disk which is what the ubuntu partioner sees. First thing I would try is to use cfdisk (available from a slackware or Zenwalk distro to partion your disk correctly.Windows must be on primary and only up to 8gb if you want to install lilo or grub in the MBR. The rest can be split as you want. Remember that for Ubuntu to see the partitions they must be mounted. Debian 5 does not mount windows partitions on the disk automatically so you cant see them. I've tried Xp co habiting with Linux and it's not easy to make it work with only one 8GB partition. Hope it helps you. I have to chip in that I've never had any such problem with gparted or grub with a winxp partition of 8GB (currently 30GB), with grub on MBR. Osprober's always done its job and gparted has served me well for as long as I've needed it. I've had this setup for a while (well, over a year anyway;) now so maybe something broke? Maybe I'm just lucky. Greetings, Freddie - Original Message - From: Bernard bdebr...@teaser.fr To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 11:46 AM Subject: problem installing Debian on dual boot with WinXP Hi to Everyone, I wish to install Linux on a computer where MSWIN XP is already running. I thought I would first resize (shrink) the windows partition so as to create free space for Linux install. I did that, using GParted. Problem is : at next step, when trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 with an iso CD, the install system does not see any useful partition. It only sees /dev/sda, while it should show /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2. Using SystemRescueCD', I am able to mount both partitions and display their size using 'df', but the Ubuntu install system does not see them. Whether I format /dev/sda2 to ext2 or ntfs, or if I just leave the space without formating, the Ubuntu install CD does not see any suitable space for that purpose. I came to wonder if, by any chance, my failure was due to that I did not create a partition table. The GParted iso CD offers this possibility, but then it warns you that creating a partition table will erase all data in all partitions.. So, maybe I should first create a backup of the MSWIN partition using Partimage, then run Gparted again and create a partition table, then install Ubuntu (if the iso CD finds what it needs once a new partition table is created), then restore the MSWIN saved partition... (or, maybe, the way around, that is, first restore MSWIN and install Ubuntu next) Prior to attempting such a risky process, I wish I had hints from those who have already tested, since a number of questions still remain : Is it allright to backup and restore a MSWIN partition ? Will the restored partition boot ? How about the MBR ? Shall I have to modify GRUB so that both systems work ? Thanks in advance for your help -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cfe1eae.70...@teaser.fr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/002901cb96ad$c0413a80$6601a...@cable.virginmedia.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/002901cb9841$4fd2c3a0$6601a...@cable.virginmedia.net
Re: Can't get grub2 installed in debian-business cared(lenny)
Sounds like you forget the mount points, it's easy to do when you use Debian's CFDISK or Partioner. Mea culpa! - Original Message - From: Thomas Yao t.yao...@gmail.com To: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 3:17 AM Subject: Can't get grub2 installed in debian-business cared(lenny) Hi all, I'm tring to install Debian Squeeze via expert install of Debian Business Card(Lenny) Everything went well until grub installation, I selected the grub2 to install with Squeeze but no matter which device I tried to select to install the boot loader, it told me didn't select any device to install bootloader And I can't install grub legancy afterwards, and I don't want to use LILO, so anyone here met the same problem before? Thank you! -- @ghosTM55 Mechanism, not policy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinrfmx-2mffothtup2ibxsduyfad9lk1edma...@mail.gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/006301cb9791$d6038c80$6601a...@cable.virginmedia.net
