Re: first mkdir takes a long time (on ext3)
Hello Karl, hello everybody, thank you Karl for this script. Am So Mai 22 2011 schrieb Karl Vogel: > >> On 19/05/11 17:01, Hartmut Niemann wrote: > H> It often takes very long time (20s) to mkdir on an ext3 drive > > >Try this version of mkdir earlier in your PATH until you find out what >the delay is. > > you% mkdir /tmp/mkdir > you% chmod 1777 /tmp/mkdir > > you% cat /usr/local/bin/mkdir > #!/bin/sh > tfile=$(date '+%Y%m%d%H%M%S') > exec /usr/bin/strace -r -o /tmp/mkdir/$tfile /bin/mkdir ${1+"$@"} > exit 1 > > I did not succed to reproduce my problem on my older computer, but I caught one on my new computer $ uname -a Linux Squeeze 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Tue Mar 8 21:36:00 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux [... lots of lines deleted ] 0.37 mmap2(NULL, 1527680, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xb74df000 0.21 close(3) = 0 0.39 mkdir("one", 0777)= 0 83.683130 close(1) = 0 0.29 close(2) = 0 It looks like mkdir itself takes so long. Everything else was well below 1 ms. This looks interesting... Hartmut -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201105232126.57171.hartmut.niem...@gmx.de
Re: first mkdir takes a long time (on ext3)
Am Fr Mai 20 2011 schrieb Karl Vogel: > >> On 19/05/11 17:01, Hartmut Niemann wrote: > > H> It often takes very long time (20s) to mkdir on an ext3 drive > >What does "strace mkdir /some/directory" show? > > $ strace mkdir two execve("/bin/mkdir", ["mkdir", "two"], [/* 18 vars */]) = 0 brk(0) = 0x9342000 access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) mmap2(NULL, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb78c9000 access("/etc/ld.so.preload", R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=41270, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 41270, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xb78be000 close(3)= 0 access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/lib/libselinux.so.1", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\0J\0\0004\0\0\0"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=104276, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 109564, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xb78a3000 mmap2(0xb78bc000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x18) = 0xb78bc000 close(3)= 0 access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\320m\1\0004\0\0\0"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=1323460, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 1333608, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xb775d000 mmap2(0xb789d000, 12288, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x13f) = 0xb789d000 mmap2(0xb78a, 10600, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb78a close(3)= 0 access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/lib/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2", O_RDONLY) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0@\n\0\0004\0\0\0"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=9736, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb775c000 mmap2(NULL, 12408, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0xb7758000 mmap2(0xb775a000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x1) = 0xb775a000 close(3)= 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7757000 set_thread_area({entry_number:-1 -> 6, base_addr:0xb7757720, limit:1048575, seg_32bit:1, contents:0, read_exec_only:0, limit_in_pages:1, seg_not_present:0, useable:1}) = 0 mprotect(0xb775a000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0 mprotect(0xb789d000, 8192, PROT_READ) = 0 mprotect(0xb78bc000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0 mprotect(0xb78e7000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0 munmap(0xb78be000, 41270) = 0 statfs64("/selinux", 84, {f_type="EXT2_SUPER_MAGIC", f_bsize=4096, f_blocks=9612190, f_bfree=9096430, f_bavail=8608149, f_files=2444624, f_ffree=2381459, f_fsid={-1733799056, 1466923510}, f_namelen=255, f_frsize=4096}) = 0 brk(0) = 0x9342000 brk(0x9363000) = 0x9363000 open("/proc/filesystems", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0444, st_size=0, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb78c8000 read(3, "nodev\tsysfs\nnodev\trootfs\nnodev\tb"..., 1024) = 319 read(3, "", 1024) = 0 close(3)= 0 munmap(0xb78c8000, 4096)= 0 open("/usr/lib/locale/locale-archive", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3 fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=1527680, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 1527680, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xb75e2000 close(3)= 0 mkdir("two", 0777) = 0 close(1)= 0 close(2) = 0 exit_group(0) = ? This run was fast (less than 1 second). Unfortunately I do not know when mkdir takes long and can't reproduce it today, so I can't tell whether a strace of a slow mkdir is different. Hartmut -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201105200838.42119.hartmut.niem...@gmx.de
Re: first mkdir takes a long time (on ext3)
Am Do Mai 19 2011 schrieb Tom Grace: > On 19/05/11 17:01, Hartmut Niemann wrote: > > I observe that it often takes very long time (20s) to mkdir on an ext3 > > drive, > > especially the first directory. > > What could the reason be? > If this is a data drive, has it been spun down to save power ? No, I don't think so. > Do other operations like reading a non-cached file, creating new files > etc. take similarly long ? No, as far as I know only mkdir takes long. Hartmut -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201105192321.04236.hartmut.niem...@gmx.de
first mkdir takes a long time (on ext3)
Hi, I observe that it often takes very long time (20s) to mkdir on an ext3 drive, especially the first directory. What could the reason be? $ time mkdir hello real0m22.325s user0m0.000s sys 0m0.132s If system time is less than a second, what is eating the other 22 seconds? This is an idle squeeze installation: $ uname -a Linux Squeeze 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Tue Mar 8 21:36:00 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux After that directory I made some more, and it was responsive as expected: $ time (touch one ; mkdir two; touch three) real0m0.135s user0m0.000s sys 0m0.052s $ time mkdir five real0m0.621s user0m0.000s sys 0m0.052s $ cd .. $ time mkdir one ; time mkdir two real0m0.050s user0m0.004s sys 0m0.048s real0m0.040s user0m0.000s sys 0m0.040s This is on a 1.8 T ext3 mounted rw,noatime using LVM, and I have seen that with my old data drive, 500 GB ext3 without LVM as well. Any ideas? Hartmut -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201105191801.12315.hartmut.niem...@gmx.de
Re: initex and virtex
Am So Oktober 31 2010 schrieb Jerome BENOIT: > Hello List, > > are initex and virtex considered as obsolete ? > > Thanks in advance, > Jerome > > > This is how the tex manpage starts: NAME tex, virtex, initex - text formatting and typesetting virtex and initex are "personalities" of the tex typesetting core engine. They used to be symlinks, but I don't know why they aren't on my system. What is the reason for your question? Hartmut -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201010312201.26178.hartmut.niem...@gmx.de
OpenOffice crash: what to do next?
Hi! When I tried to save a document (spreadsheet) with latest openOffice from testing, I got *** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin: double free or corruption (out): 0x098b3040 *** === Backtrace: = /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(+0x6b281)[0xb7a5e281] /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(+0x6cad8)[0xb7a5fad8] /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(cfree+0x6d)[0xb7a62bbd] /usr/lib/openoffice/program/../basis-link/ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so.3(rtl_freeMemory+0x1d)[0xb7e1871d] /usr/lib/openoffice/program/../basis-link/program/../ure-link/lib/libuno_cppuhelpergcc3.so.3(_ZN4cppu11OWeakObjectD0Ev+0x28)[0xb77e55f8] /usr/lib/openoffice/program/../basis-link/program/../ure-link/lib/libuno_cppuhelpergcc3.so.3(_ZN4cppu11OWeakObject7releaseEv+0x52)[0xb77e5902] /usr/lib/openoffice/program/../basis-link/program/libxstor.so(_ZN12OWriteStream7releaseEv+0x20)[0xb17253d0] /usr/lib/openoffice/program/../basis-link/program/sax.uno.so(+0x15e92)[0xb30dee92] /usr/lib/openoffice/program/../basis-link/program/../ure-link/lib/libuno_cppuhelpergcc3.so.3(_ZN4cppu11OWeakObject7releaseEv+0x52)[0xb77e5902] and lots of lines more. With a different file, I had a similar effect when I tried to change an embedded graph. deleting it and creating it new worked. So this bug might be related to some very old (ooffice 2.x) graph that isn't handled properly? How can I translate that into a reasonable bug report? Hartmut -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201010311717.00591.hartmut.niem...@gmx.de
How to debug a boot problem?
Hi! I have debian testing on a SIS741 Athlon XP system, Graphics is ATI 9250 (RV280) in case that gives a hint to somebody. Kernel 2.6.30 runs fine. Kernel 2.6.32 reaches done. Setting parameters of disc: (none) Checking root file system...fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2 Ursula-root: clean, ../.. files, ../.. blocks (I didn't write down the exact numbers) done. and stops. How do I find out, why boot stops here? Where does it stop? How can I find out what the next step which hangs the system is? Could the new dependency based boot be the culprit? Or the kernel based mode setting? As far as I remember both were new in this kernel? What do you suggest to try next? With best regards Hartmut -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201009110712.39929.hartmut.niem...@gmx.de
Problems with CUPS Error 401
Hi, I have the following config file and got the followed error. Has anyone a clue what the problem could be? The .15 IP is a Windows XP Client. Why is the client not authorized (cupsdSendError: 8 code=401 (Unauthorized))? Printing works perfect. Thanks a lot, Hartmut --[cupsd.conf]-- LogLevel debug #warning SystemGroup lpadmin Listen localhost:631 Listen 172.16.0.104:631 Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock Browsing On BrowseOrder allow,deny BrowseAllow @LOCAL BrowseAllow 172.16.0.0/24 DefaultAuthType Basic DefaultEncryption Never # Required Require group printers Order allow,deny Allow localhost Allow 172.16.0.0/24 Encryption Required Require user @SYSTEM Order allow,deny Allow localhost Allow 172.16.0.0/24 AuthType Basic Require user @SYSTEM Order allow,deny Allow localhost Allow 172.16.0.0/24 Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM Order deny,allow Allow 172.16.0.0/24 AuthType Basic Require user @SYSTEM Order deny,allow Allow 172.16.0.0/24 Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM Order deny,allow Allow 172.16.0.0/24 Order deny,allow Allow 172.16.0.0/24 Printcap /var/run/cups/printcap and get the following error: ==> /var/log/cups/access_log <== 172.16.0.15 - - [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] "POST /printers/BrotherHL1650 HTTP/1.1" 401 0 - - 172.16.0.15 - - [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] "POST /printers/BrotherHL1650 HTTP/1.1" 401 0 - - 172.16.0.15 - - [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] "POST /printers/BrotherHL1650 HTTP/1.1" 401 0 - - ==> /var/log/cups/error_log <== D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdCloseClient: 8 D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdAcceptClient: 8 from 172.16.0.15:631 (IPv4) D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdReadClient: 8 POST /printers/BrotherHL1650 HTTP/1.1 D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdSendError: 8 code=401 (Unauthorized) D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdCloseClient: 8 D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdAcceptClient: 8 from 172.16.0.15:631 (IPv4) D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdReadClient: 8 POST /printers/BrotherHL1650 HTTP/1.1 D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdAuthorize: username="hartmut" D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] Get-Printer-Attributes http://172.16.0.104:631/printers/BrotherHL1650 D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdProcessIPPRequest: 8 status_code=0 (successful-ok) D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdCloseClient: 8 D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdAcceptClient: 8 from 172.16.0.15:631 (IPv4) D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdReadClient: 8 POST /printers/BrotherHL1650 HTTP/1.1 D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdSendError: 8 code=401 (Unauthorized) D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdCloseClient: 8 D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdAcceptClient: 8 from 172.16.0.15:631 (IPv4) D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdReadClient: 8 POST /printers/BrotherHL1650 HTTP/1.1 D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdAuthorize: username="hartmut" D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] Get-Printer-Attributes http://172.16.0.104:631/printers/BrotherHL1650 D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdProcessIPPRequest: 8 status_code=0 (successful-ok) [...] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian repository server
When checkibg for updates of debian testing I received an offer to update these unauthorized package updates from ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/: libavahi-client3, libavahi-common3, libavahi-common-data, libavahi-compat-libdnssd1, libavahi-glib1, libavahi-qt3-1, libcaca0, libcucul0, libxmmsclient0, libxmmsclient-glib0, ibxmmsclient++-glib0 together with the GPG error message: W: GPG error: ftp://ftp2.de.debian.org testing Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 010908312D230C5F Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> while ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ and ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ did not offer these packages at all. Please check, if this is an internal debian problem or an illegal upload into the official debian server. For the time being, I will not perform this update. brgds Hartmut Tigges -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xemacs menubar font
Damon Muller wrote: > A quick question for all the Xemacs gurus out there. by no means. i´m looking at gnu and seems to be condemned to emacs. > The Xemacs FAQ suggests the following lines: > > Emacs.default.attributeFont: -*-*-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-m-*-*-* > Emacs*menubar*font: fixed > Emacs.modeline.attributeFont: fixed > > which I have added to my .Xdefaults file. However, running xrdb -merge > ~/.Xdefaults results in no change. README.Debian says: 3) For mule binaries you must use "fontSet" rather than "font" in Xresources to change the fonts used. For example: Emacs*font: -*-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-*-10-* becomes Emacs*fontSet: -*-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-*-10-* perhaps you may give this a try. cu -- hafi
Re: kernel compilation and ncurses problem
"Bambang Purnomosidi D. P." wrote: > I already have (from unstable) libncurses5, ncurses-bin, ncurses-term, and > ncurses-base. > > DId I miss something?? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ COLUMNS=120 dpkg -l \*ncurses\* | grep ^ii | cut -b -70 ii libncurses4 4.2-9Shared libraries ii libncurses5 5.2.20010318-1 Shared libraries ii libncurses5-dbg 5.2.20010318-1 Debugging/profil ii libncurses5-dev 5.2.20010318-1 Developer's libr ii ncurses-base 5.2.20010318-1 Descriptions of ii ncurses-bin 5.2.20010318-1 Terminal-related ii ncurses-term 5.2.20010318-1 Additional termi cu -- hafi
Re: offtopic: perldoc
Timo \"Blazko\" Boewing wrote: > Yepp, I already hav'em (dselect) and did a apt-get right now on > perl-doc. But this package (if it expands to /usr/share/doc/perl-doc) > only contains a changelog between the dedicated perl versions and > contains some examples scripts plus some very tiny docs. What I am > looking for is the classic perl core doc containing e.g. perlfaq, > perldata, perlsyn, perlop etcetera. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l perl-doc | grep ^ii ii perl-doc 5.6.1-5Perl documentation. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -L perl-doc | grep perlfaq /usr/share/man/man1/perlfaq.1.gz [snip] /usr/share/perl/5.6.1/pod/perlfaq.pod [snip] cu -- hafi
Re: anyone for masqmail?
andrej hocevar wrote: > is anyone here using masqmail? yes. a good choice for an dial-up account. > i've installed masqmail on my potato and it works okay as far as > delivering mail to myself (localhost) is concerned. it also stores mail > that's meant for any outside connections and silently waits for my to > intervene. did you have properly edited /etc/masqmail/masqmail.conf? in this file are many configuration examples. > to deliver it, i have to do masqmail -qo[connection], right? > > but i get segfaults all the time when i try that! does anyone know what's > wrong? have a look at the manpage masqmail.conf(5), especially the line with ´online_detect =´. you also have to study the manpages of masqmail(8) and masqmail.route(5). a good start for using masqmail is http://innominate.org/~kurth/masqmail/ there you can find informations, howto´s, can browse a mailing-list and even ask your question on this list. probably the maintainer of masqmail will read your question and answer it. cu -- hafi
Re: OT: ACPI, 2.4.9 & CPU Temp
Hartmut Figge wrote: sorry, wrong list. Should have been debian-user-de :( cu -- hafi
OT: ACPI, 2.4.9 & CPU Temp
gruss, mag sein, dass es fuer einige interessant ist. hier ein auszug der ausgabe von 'sensors' mit ACPI enabled mit kernel 2.4.9 auf einem abit kt7: SYS Temp: +33.3°C (limit = +45°C, hysteresis = +40°C) CPU Temp: +37.6°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +55°C) und so war es vorher mit kernel 2.2.19 (auszug aus einem frueheren posting zur liste): SYS Temp: +33.2 C (limit = +45 C, hysteresis = +40 C) CPU Temp: +49.1 C (limit = +60 C, hysteresis = +55 C) cu -- hafi
Re: [OT] German-English translation tools
Andrew Perrin wrote: > > Does anyone know of any free (or at least reasonably cheap) tools to > assist in translation? I'm explicitly *not* looking for a program that > attempts to fully translate texts, but rather something to help with some > of the dirty work as I begin translating some previously unavailable > articles from German. It could be something as simple as a fairly > comprehensive electronic dictionary, or possibly an NLP tool that makes a > stab at syntax as well. Available for linux or solaris is a very large > plus, but I'll put up with windows if I absolutely have to. perhaps you might look at ding: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/down$ dpkg -l ding | grep ^ii | cut -b -68 ii ding 1.0-6 Dictionary lookup program for Unix here is some output from 'man ding' ding is a dictionary lookup program for X Window/Unix. It comes with a German-English dictionary with ca. 110,000 entries. It is based on Tk version >= 8.0 and uses the agrep(1) or egrep(1) tools for searching. It has many configuration options, such as search prefer ences, interface language (English or German), colors. It has history and help functions and comes with useful key and mouse bindings for quick and easy lookups. If you enter some word or phrase as command line argument, ding will start up with a translation of this word/phrase. hth -- hafi
Re: Upgrading from Hamm to Potato
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I want to upgrade my system from Hamm (2.0) to Potato (2.2), using CDROMs. I > tried to first install apt, but, not surprisingly, I got all kinds of > dependency errors. http://panic.et.tudelft.nl/~costar/potato/upgrade-i386/ cu -- hafi
Re: Latin-1 characters in X, how?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On the Linux virtual consoles I can enter Latin-1 characters into any > program using the Compose key sequences, provided these are defined in > the loaded keymap. For example, here's a piece of my > /etc/console-tools/default.kmap: > The question is, how can I do the same with X clients? I know about i've done it in this way: some lines from my .bash_profile: # cat ~/.keymap | loadkeys loadkeys /home/hafi/.keymap &> /dev/null and the content of .keymap: $ cat ~/.keymap shift keycode 100 = Compose altgr keycode 42 = Compose cu -- hafi
Re: Compiling New Kernel
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > procps has what you need. To get the versions 2.2.15 wants, you need to > upgrade your system to debian 2.2 (potato). potato is currently frozen and in not necessarily. on my system: ii procps 2.0.6-6The /proc file system utilities. ii util-linux 2.10f-3Miscellaneous system utilities. ii libc6 2.0.7.19981211 GNU C Library: shared libraries Linux p166 2.2.15 #1 Fri May 5 05:00:33 CEST 2000 i586 unknown cu -- hafi
Re: man pages!!
Mark Brown wrote: > > If you've got man pages in /usr/share it's probably because you've > already done a partial upgrade and have potato's libc6 alreay (certainly > in this case where dpkg and apt seem to have been upgraded). umm, i have dpkg 1.6.12, apt 0.3.18 and libc6 2.0 7. i've tried to 'slink' man-db from potato, but failed with the message: make[2]: Entering directory `/home/hafi/man-db/man-db-2.3.16/po' PATH=../src:$PATH : --default-domain=man-db --directory=.. \ --add-comments --keyword=_ --keyword=N_ \ --files-from=./POTFILES.in rm -f ./man-db.pot mv man-db.po ./man-db.pot mv: man-db.po: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [man-db.pot] Error 1 i will not investigate further, because potato is 'ante portas'. cu -- hafi
Re: How to change Netscape Menu fonts?
"Eric G . Miller" wrote: > > I want to make Netscape use a smaller font for it's menus and buttons. > However, when I played around with setting something like: > > *font: -adobe-helvetica-*-r-normal-*-*-110-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1 > > in ~/.Xresources, netscape complains about not being able to create a > font structure. I haven't found any examples of setting menu fonts, in > any of the /usr/doc/netscape/examples/*. so I wonder if such a thing is > possible? and if so, how? here is a part of my ~/.Xresources: Netscape*XmLGrid*fontList:\ -*-arial-medium-r-*-*-*-100-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*,\ -*-arial-bold-r-*-*-*-100-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*=BOLD,\ -*-arial-medium-i-*-*-*-100-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*=ITALIC Netscape*banner*folderDropdown*XmLabel.fontList: -adobe-courier-bold-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* Netscape*banner*folderDropdown*fontList:\ -adobe-courier-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*,\ -adobe-courier-bold-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*=BOLD note, that line 6 is the continuation of line 5. i found the information in /usr/lib/netscape/Netscape.ad hth -- hafi
Re: .gz in Netscape
Martin Schulze wrote: > > Oleg Krivosheev wrote: > > > > Hi, All > > > > stupid question: what i have to do in order to > > prevent Netscape from expanding .gz files? > > Simple answer: Don't use Netscape to download .gz files, use >wget instead yes, i've tried since netscape 4.61 and finally switched to wget > > Other answer: Try shift-mousebutton that will not help -- hafi
Re: kernel panic on hda
Paul McDermott wrote: > > Hi Steve, it looks like you might have misconfigured the kernel. did you > include ext2 filesystem in your configured kernel. and, steve, the ext2 should no be compiled as module :) -- hafi
Re: Netscape removed, why?
Todd Suess wrote: > > Just did an apt-get update tonight, and while doing my nightly apt-get > dist-upgrade, this was the result. > > tsuess:~# apt-get dist-upgrade -s | more > Reading Package Lists... > Building Dependency Tree... > The following packages will be REMOVED: > communicator-base-47 communicator-nethelp-47 communicator-smotif-47 > communicator-spellchk-47 gconv-modules libc6-bin netscape-base-4 ^ ^^^ > netscape-base-47 netscape-java-47 i've just seen a posting on devel, which _could_ explain that: * On Thu, 27 Jan 2000, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > On 28-Jan-2000 Henrique M Holschuh wrote: > > The new libc6 package (2.1.2-12) is causing some dependency problems. It > > Joel decided not to have a libc6-bin package, so anything that wants it should > be RC bug'ed. The only packages affected seem to be: w3m netscape-base-4 * -- hafi
Re: unexpected end of file
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 'bash: /root/.profile: line 11: syntax error: unexpected end of file' i would would view this file with mc, switching to hex-mode and look for suspicious characters. -- hafi
Re: Netscape 4.7 and Fortify
Arcady Genkin wrote: > > Has anyone got Fortify work with Netscape 4.7? yes iirc, fortify must be pointed to the executable file 'netscape' whose location may vary. to find out i use always locate Netscape.ad which gives me the path to that file. -- hafi
Re: Poor Modem performance
"AU,SCOTT CHUONG" wrote: > Welcome to (10 second pause) ISP Name (10 second pause) Username (10 > second pause) etc. > > I'm running on a old 386-33Mhz with 8megs RAM so is it possible my that probably means, that you dont't have a 16550A uart. try dmesg | less and watch the lines beginning with ttyS00 and ttyS01. > hardware isn't fast enough for linux communications programs or have I > misconfigured my serial port? Using setserial, I've configured ttyS2 > (port where modem resides) at 115200 with the svhi flag. I've also old uart's cannot handle such speed. don't remember exactly at the momement, but wasn't 38400 the limitation for the 16450? > changed minicom's settings to 115200 etc. with the fastest settings > possible. > > The modem ran fine under MS-DOS using Qmodem. can you check the working settings of the uart under dos? -- hafi
Re: slink leafnode and y2k???
Christian Surchi wrote: > Now I don't use leafnode, so I couldn't try, but someone told me that leafnode > has problem with the state of messages after 31/12/99... :o according the leafnode mailing-list that's fixed since leafnode 1.9.5. current release is version 1.9.7 -- hafi
Re: dselect+apt -- how to clear cache?
Arcady Genkin wrote: > Any ideas, anyone? I'm pretty much at the end of my rope. I tried > looking in various /var directories, hoping to find some cache file > for dselect or apt, but alas... how about the status* files in /var/lib/dpkg ? -- hafi
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Re: insert a blank page in a ps file
Shao Zhang wrote: > > Hi, > Is there any easy way to insert an extra blank page after > each page in a PostScript file? > > Say I have a ps file with pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 > I want to format it to a new ps file with the following pages: > 1 blank 2 blank 3 blank 4 blank 5 blank 6 blank 7 blank you could misuse pstops in this way: pstops "1:0,[EMAIL PROTECTED]" infile.ps outfile.ps or even shorter: pstops "0,[EMAIL PROTECTED]" infile.ps outfile.ps -- hafi
Re: reformatting a postscript file from letter to a4 paper size ?
shaul wrote: > Can I change the postscript files (and not the source file) so that it will > have a reasonable setting on a a4 paper ? yes man pstops, at the end you can see other possibilities. -- hafi
Re: printer setup
sdoerr wrote: > > I am a new Debian user and one of the things I haven't been able to set > up yet is my printer. I don't have a printcap file yet and I am not i would try to run magicfilterconfig. there`s a lot of such helpful configuration programms in debian, but i`ve never found a helpfull documentation which one exist. i use locate config | grep bin or locate setup | grep bin to find some of these programms. -- hafi
Re: uploads over modem are SLOOOOOW!
Brian Servis wrote: > > *- On 22 Aug, Lee Elliott wrote about "Re: uploads over modem are SLOW!" > > On 21-Aug-99, you wrote: > > > > HF> Lee Elliott wrote: > > HF> > > HF>> screen? Do pppload and wmppp show only data successfully > > HF>> transferred? > > HF> ^^^ > > HF>what`s that? > > HF> > > HF> greetings, > > HF> > > HF> i cannot find this programm with dselect or in > > HF> http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages. could you give me a hint > > HF> where to look for the package? > > HF> > > HF> regards > > > > I don't know of a specific package for Debian but I've seen them for > > other O/Ss and would be suprised if some one hadn't done one for linux. > > > > It is not a debian package as far as I can tell. But there is a rpm at > the site which you can use alien to convert to a deb. > > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/1029/pppload.html thanks, brian. i shouldnt`t have asked this question - it`s not debian specific. i was just curious. now i`ve looked for pppload ... and ... w-r-- 15.6K 1998 Apr 1 ftp.debian.org /debian-archive/dists/hamm/contrib/binary-i386/net/pppload_1.0-5.deb but it's gone now. seems that it hasn`t made the step to slink. your link leads to pppload-1.0-2.i386.rpm which is older than the hamm package. i assume that there is a successor somewhere in slink. regards -- hafi
Re: Can't boot from hard disk
Mark Lawrence wrote: > The /etc/lilo.conf looks like this: > > boot=/dev/hda1 perhaps boot=/dev/hda ? -- hafi
Re: most: cannot display *.gz files
Matthias Murra wrote: > If anyone out there is running a slink system, has the version of "most" > installed that came with it (or could install it for a few seconds :->) and > would be so kind to tell me if "most .gz" works, that might help. :) i haven't seen a reply yet, so ... no problem here with most .gz, slink with kernel 2.2.9 and the recommended changes, version of most is 4.8.1-0.1. please let me know if i can do something to figure out the problem. -- hafi
Re: No KDE/GNOME for stable?
Brian Servis wrote: > If you want something that is only available in the unstable tree you > can always build the source archive against your current setup, it is > fairly straight forward with the Debian source archives. but there are problems with some packages, e.g. postfix-0.0.19990627 refuses to compile on my slink. eventually i will look later for the reason. -- hafi
Re: Netscape crashing - Why do we have to rely on Netscape?
Christian Dysthe wrote: > Opera will be ready for Linux soon. But Opera is not free. I work for ^^ could you be a bit more precisely? -- hafi
Re: Partition table change
Hartmut Figge wrote: > > Stephen Pitts wrote: > > > > My memory fails me (and I don't want to reboot into Windows :-(), does > > PM 4 resize ext2 partitions? > > not only that. i`ve done some incredible things with it. > but - as you wrote - windows :( addendum: i use a boot-disk with pm, so i don`t have to use windows. hm, don`t know why my mails take so long time today to arrive at the list. -- hafi
Re: Partition table change
Stephen Pitts wrote: > My memory fails me (and I don't want to reboot into Windows :-(), does > PM 4 resize ext2 partitions? not only that. i`ve done some incredible things with it. but - as you wrote - windows :( -- hafi
Re: Partition table change
Stephen Pitts wrote: > Look at ext2resize on freshmeat (www.freshmeat.net..the search box is at the > top). > Although it says that it is ALPHA, you might try it. should i mention partition magic 4? on a debian list? blushing -- hafi
Re: problem with /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/
Alisdair McDiarmid wrote: > [root:/tmp] # cat xnetload.error > /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/load: xnetload: not found > > So changing xnetload to /usr/X11R6/bin/xnetload worked, and now > xnetload loads on ppp up. well, looking into /etc/ppp/ip-up: # The environment is cleared before executing this script # so the path must be reset PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin export PATH /usr/X11R6/bin isn`t included in the path - bug - so this error can`t be found by manually executing run-parts. but how have you solved the display issue? adding -display :0 to the command line don`t work for me. curious -- hafi
Re: problem with /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/
Hartmut Figge wrote: > i`ll think about the problem and will write if i find a solution. well, i`ve found the evil-doer. i copied your script into the file affe, created a directory called affe-dir and put affe in that dir. permissions, owner and group like ip-up.d et al. then i executed run-parts /home/hafi/affe-dir as hafi and got run-parts: failed to open directory /etc/ppp/inet.d: Keine Berechtigung being root i got p166:~# Error: Can't open display: changing permissions so that hafi is allowed to open the directory /home/hafi/affe-dir and executing run-parts as hafi succeeded :) so you now will know what your possibilities are. -- hafi
Re: problem with /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/
Alisdair McDiarmid wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 17, 1999 at 02:40:47AM +0200, Hartmut Figge wrote: > > yes, bash will expand the `*`. > > um, possibly, but the command still works when i execute > /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/load, so i don't think it does. > > > you need to quote the command. try xnetload "your_command". > > i have, now, and it makes no difference. even just having a > vanilla `xnetload -if ppp0' doesn't work. > > any other ideas? sorry for the misinformation. i`ve copied your script into a file, executed it and... yes, it worked :) i`ll think about the problem and will write if i find a solution. -- hafi
Re: problem with /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/
Alisdair McDiarmid wrote: > > i want to start xnetload on ppp up, and kill it on ppp down. so i > wrote two scripts: /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/load: > > #!/bin/sh > xnetload -geometry 200x48+0+0 -fn > -schumacher-clean-bold-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-* -fg white -bg black -nc -if > ppp0 & > > and /etc/ppp/ip-down.d/load: > > #!/bin/sh > killall xnetload > > when i connect, nothing happens. if i type /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/load yes, bash will expand the `*`. you need to quote the command. try xnetload "your_command". -- hafi
Re: dpkg-database damaged.
Johann Spies wrote: > > After trying to use dosemu, my computer stalled and I had to press the > reset button en the end. After rebooting, I wanted to remove dosemu and > reinstall it and to my amazement dpkg reported that it was not installed. > When I ran dselect, it showed about a quarter of the installed packages. > > Is there a way to correct this? seems, that your /var/lib/dpkg/status was corrupted. i recommend that you backup your current .../status and use one of the formerly saved ones, beginning with status-old, if that is corrupt also then proceed with status.yesterday.0 and so on backwards in time. -- hafi
Re: Potato upgrade and Perl warnings...
David Wright wrote: > To leave "Select" you have to press . If you unintentionally > press it twice (eg the keyboard double-strikes, or a slow 386 makes > you think you might not have tapped the key hard enough) > dselect goes straight into "Install" whereas you might want "Remove" > or, even worse, to repeat "Select". yes, i`ve noticed this also and i think that a lot of people got trapped. seems to be a bug in dselect. before accepting a new key the input buffer should have been cleared. -- hafi
Re: netscape fonts
Joel Keating wrote: > > My netscape fonts seem to be way too small. Most of the pages i go to > i can hardly read. I'm using communicator 4.5 and kde. Any help > would be great. go to http://www.frii.com/~meldroc/Font-Deuglification.html hafi
Re: Device Driver Problem Again
Phil Wu wrote: > > I still haven't got the answer about how to configuring device drivers > for my computer. > Could anyone tell me how to chose the modules when I run "modconf". Or > where to get the install guide for this problem. > > Thanks! > > My hardware as below: > > quantum 7.4G IDE HD > 1.44Mb Floppy Disk > 8 Mb Leadtek Winfast 3D L2300 Vedio card > 128Mb Ram > Atapi IDE CD-ROM phil, if you`re on the way of installing slink, then i see no necessity to install any driver. during installation your quantum and your cd-rom should be recognized, and the standard-kernel supports - afaik - both. one problem could be your video-card, if you decide to configure X with XF86Setup. this card is unknown to me and i don`t know, if it`s supported. but for the moment, the normal vga mode should work. hafi
Re: X-Windows running automatically and not working. :(
> the keyboard. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace just flashes back to the shell for > a fraction of a second then back into X-Windows. > > Worst of all, X-Windows runs automatically when I boot so I can't get have you tried ctrl-alt-f1? this should give you a textconsole. then you should deinstall xdm. then run XF86Setup. hafi
Re: lilo and win98
Hartmut Figge wrote: > to boot dos (or win) this hd must be the first. how about the exchange > of the hd´s? or, maybe, if you make your hdb bootable... i just looked into /usr/doc/lilo/manual.txt.gz and found MAP-DRIVE= Instructs chain.b to installs a resident driver that re-maps the floppy or hard disk drives. This way, one can boot any operating system from a hard disk different from the first one, as long as that operating system uses _only_ the BIOS to access that hard disk.* This is known to work for PC/MS-DOS. this option wasn`t available when i wrote my lilo.conf. irecommend that you look into this file. hafi
Re: lilo and win98
Sander Balkenende wrote: > table=/dev/hdb hm, hm, i try to remember and... yes. to boot dos (or win) this hd must be the first. how about the exchange of the hd´s? or, maybe, if you make your hdb bootable... good luck hfi
Re: lilo and win98
> I have problems starting win98 on hdb1 with Lilo. When trying to start > win (shift, dos), nothing happens. Linux (hda1) starts fine. my > lilo.conf: > other=/dev/hdb1 > label=dos a look at my lilo.conf reveals: other=/dev/hda1 label=DOS table=/dev/hda could it your missing ´table´? sorry, too much time has gone since i wrote my .conf (: hafi
Re: Emacs, Netscape and Apache - together?
Wyn Snow wrote: > So what I want to do is get a Netscape Navigator (or Communicator) > that > will work with Debian Hamm 2.0.34. Since I make web pages for a > living, i suspect, you´re trying to run a glibc2.0 netscape on libc5 system. if you have a glibc5 based system, you must download a version from the supported branch of ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator, otherwise, if your system is based on glibc2.0 (or ... ieh ... glibc2.1) you must download from the unsupported branch. hafi
Re: Bug in slink's dosemu?
Johann Spies wrote: [about dosemu problems] don´t know, what´s going wrong. but i wouldn´t bother. i´ve just ´slinked´ dosemu 0.98.7, installed and am on the way of customizing. i recommend that you forget your version and get the new stable one. hafi
OT: Re: communicator 4.6 - ftp bug
ed, i fear, we could annoy some people if we continue to discuss a non-debian-specific matter on a debian mailinglist. shouldn´t we go back to pm? Ed Cogburn wrote: > A) I made up the MIMEtypes when I added those > Preferences->Navigator->Applications entries, Hartmut. The > important things are the suffix and which option you selected in > the 'handled by' section. i was confused by the fact, that peter and you had _exactly_ the same MIMIEType for the gz case. there seemed to be a known source of that types, which i was not aware of. my own formely experiments couldn´t work, because i used ´.gz´ instead of ´gz´. blush. i´ve now finished my customization of communicator and done as follows (all tested) excerpt from ~.mime.types: #mime types added by Netscape Helper type=application/x-gzip-compressed \ desc="Gzip archive file" \ exts="z,gz" #mime types added by Netscape Helper type=application/x-compress \ desc="Compress archive file" \ exts="Z" excerpt from Netscape.ad: !*encodingFilters:\ ! x-compress : : .Z : uncompress -c \n\ ! compress : : .Z : uncompress -c \n ! x-gzip : : .z,.gz : gzip -cdq \n\ ! gzip : : .z,.gz : gzip -cdq \n and the link /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Netscape -> /usr/lib/netscape/Netscape.ad of course, if you´re using another netscape, eg. 4.07, then this link probably would point to another directory. > B) I'm glad you got it working for you Hartmut, but guess what, I > don't need to comment out those lines in Netscape.ad, nor do I > need the link to app-defaults/Netscape. In fact, I don't even > *have* a .../app-defaults/netscape file! Nor does NS strip the > suffix on me, as reported by someone else. my experiments have shown, that in the absence of the mentioned link netscape uses its own - probably compiled in - Netscape.ad. therefore i would bet, that in one of your configuration files - xinit, xressources et alia - is a reference to netscape, which causes such behaviour. i recommend a grep ´etscape´ over such files. maybe also, that preferences.js is guilty. > > C) For everyone elses benifit: I'm using NS Communicator 4.6. My > first version was 4.05. I had these reported problems then. In > the process of trying to fix things, I added the > Preferences->Navigator->Applications entries for files with *.gz > and many other suffixes. At one point I was manually editing ^^ dangerous > .mime.types because the entries I made were becoming corrupted for > some reason. I never did get things working as I wanted, but now > I can't remember the specifics, besides the corrupted .mime.types > entries. When I upgraded to 4.5 the problems disappeared, and I > never gave it any more thought. The upgrades preserved these > entries I had made so they are still with me. well, quite recently i had to play with different versions of the communicator and wanted not to be disturbed by errors perhaps contained in the recent version. i´ve done this: since i started with communicator 4.6, i created a directory ~/ns46 and copied all netscape related directories and files of ~ to ~/ns46. then i purged the old communicator, looked, if all files had gone - don´t remember exactly if all was automatically deleted - and installed communicator 4.61. ´twas no problem, to get back my bookmarks and the addressbook. hafi
Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Realplayer G2
Peter Ludwig wrote: > > I've been looking for Realplayer G2 all over the place (including at > Real-Audio's website), and I cannot seem to find it for any unix-like > operating systems... fast ftp search shows ftp://ftp.linux.hr/pub/realplayer/ there _seems_ to be the linux version, but i haven´t checked - and cannot understand the README. spanish? hafi ps just searched for ´g2player´, which is contained in the above directory and found also ftp://ftp.one.net/pub/users/djflux/linux/apps/
Re: communicator 4.6 - ftp bug
Rick Macdonald wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > > > > my communicator 4.6 insists of unpacking certain types of files before > > > > saving to hd. this behaviour is not acceptable, therefore i have to use > > > > another version, which will download a file _unchanged_ if demanded. > > I have this problem with gz file when it's not tar.gz. Just now I did some > tests and added a mime type to netscape > preferences/navigator/applications: > > Description: Gzip archive file > MIMIEType: application/x-gzip-compressed > Suffixes:gz > Handled By: Unknown:PromptUser > > Now it downloads the sane diff file as 17KB compressed, but I have to add > the .gz suffix to the filename in the netscape dialog or rename after. > Netscape seems to insist on stripping the extension. > > This is closer. Can anyone improve this? yes. but first: nice, no that´s not sufficient: _very_ nice. in Netscape.ad comment out the following lines to *encodingFilters: \ x-compress : : .Z : uncompress -c \n\ compress : : .Z : uncompress -c \n ! x-gzip : : .z,.gz : gzip -cdq \n\ ! gzip : : .z,.gz : gzip -cdq \n with that netscape finally behaves as it should. don´t forget, netscape needs the link /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Netscape pointing to Netscape.ad. perhaps it is sufficient to copy these lines to preferences.js. as you can see above, your line ´Suffixes´ should be completed to Suffixes:z,gz there should also be another entry to handle the .Z-files properly. but what about the appropriate MIMIEtTpe? i haven´t found the possible values. could you please point me to a location, where this types are listed? hafi ps: there may be some curious people, which can profit from my researches so far. i had detected, that the problem wasn´t debian related and was willing to post my question in an appropriate newsgroup. i had done the following tests on my machine (all with communicator): debian slink (glibc 2.0) 4.6, 4.61, 4.07 => fail suse 5.3 (libc5) 4.5 => fail win95 4.0? => success
[Fwd: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: moira.debian.org: host not found)]
hm, sorry for the annoyance, but this mail has bounced. perhaps eric is not knowing that his mail-address is not working and can investigate further with the knowledge of this message. hafi Original Message Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: moira.debian.org: host not found) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 04:14:30 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The original message was received at Thu, 17 Jun 1999 04:14:27 +0200 (MET DST) from pec-38.au1.mg.uunet.de [149.228.22.38] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Transcript of session follows - 550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Host unknown (Name server: moira.debian.org: host not found)Reporting-MTA: dns; elch.de.uu.net Received-From-MTA: dns; pec-38.au1.mg.uunet.de Arrival-Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 04:14:27 +0200 (MET DST) Final-Recipient: rfc822; eric@moira.debian.org Action: failed Status: 5.1.2 Remote-MTA: dns; moira.debian.org Last-Attempt-Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 04:14:30 +0200 (MET DST) --- Begin Message --- "Eric G. Miller" wrote: > > Use SHIFT-Click when downloading zipped files to stop Netscape from unzipping > it. I think there might be a way to configure it not to have this > behaviour... thanks for the reply. yes, so should it be. but unfortunately ... i´ve now downloaded 4.61 and will give it a try. if that fails, i´ll go back to 4.08. hafi --- End Message ---
Re: communicator 4.6 - ftp bug
Ed Cogburn wrote: [interesting things about the subject] assuming that the list isn´t much interested in the question i´ll answer ed per pm. hafi
Re: communicator 4.6 - ftp bug
Ed Cogburn wrote: > Yes the file is 17428 bytes. Hold down the shift key when > clicking on a file to download; this will cause Netscape to > download 'as-is'. so it should be. but not with my communicator 4.6. therefore i´m on the search for a version, which will do, what should be expected. just a look to your header: strange, it seems you´re using also communicator 4.6, and also the same kernel. well, if you´ve downloaded this file with the communicator, then, hmm ... what? i use the right mouse button to get the store menu, but that isn´t the reason for the faulty behaviour. just tried with the shift key - and that gives exactly the same result - an unpacked file of the size 81258 bytes. now i´m perplex hafi
communicator 4.6 - ftp bug
greetings, well, now it´s me who have to whine. firstly, a hearty gghh. my communicator 4.6 insists of unpacking certain types of files before saving to hd. this behaviour is not acceptable, therefore i have to use another version, which will download a file _unchanged_ if demanded. could someone - preferably with version 4.61 or 4.08 - please download ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/source/graphics/sane_1.0.1-1.diff.gz, check and tell if the downloaded file has the size of 17428 bytes? for the curious: you could think, why bother, let the communicator unpack the file, you could then pack the file again and you will have, what you wanted. but it´s not so easy. i´ve done so, played with the availabel compression levels, but get never exactly the same size the file has had before downloading. but the size of this file is essential if one will create a glibc2.0 deb from the deb-sources, which i must do because nearly all new packages are compiled with glibc2.1 which i will not tolerate on my slink system. even playing with Netscape.ad was not sufficient to educate my 4.6. surely, i could use other prgramms to download my files - and in fact i have done so - but i will not. tia hafi
Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.
Alisdair McDiarmid wrote: > i found 4.6.1 even more unstable than 4.08. at least i know that, if > i don't close windows, 4.08 is unlikely to crash. 4.6 just died all > the time. well, then it seems, that the poor glibc2.1 people should go to the libc5 version. hafi
Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.
thomas lakofski wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Craig McPherson wrote: > anyone have libc5 debian packages for 4.08/51/6? get the files from ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.08/english/unix/supported/linux20/ and use the debian installer. hafi
Re: soundcard too silent
Lex Chive wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 15, 1999 at 01:54:05PM +0200, Bernhard Dobbels wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Armin Wegner wrote: > > > how can I raise the base volume of my sb 64 pci (ensonique)? > > > > try xmix > > and aumix on the console. Dont forget to change the volume of the PCM channel > too, not only master (aumix -w 100 -v 100), i have this autoloaded in my > conf.modules. why not the default gom ? hafi
Re: Sound-HOWTO docs wrong; what next?
Kent West wrote: > > I've recompiled my kernel in order to get sound working. Now when I > reboot I can see messages about my sound card, so I went back to the > documentation to see how to test the sound. > > "The Linux Sound HOWTO; Installation (p15 of 26)", section 4.3 states > that there should be a "/dev/sndstat" file. > > There isn't one. that´s normal, if sound isn´t working yet. > It says it can be created by using the short script at the "end of the > file Readme.linux in the directory /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound". > > There is no such directory. it will be there, as soon as you´ve created a link from /usr/src/linux to /usr/src/kernel-source-2.1.1 ;-) it´s not necessary, but usefull. some programms, eg. alsa, persist of such´n link. a drawback: you have to repoint the link to the new kernel-source, if you upgrade. and that´s the first you should do. get the now released 2.2.10. > However, I surmised that the /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.1/drivers/sound > would be equivalent. Nonetheless, there is no "Readme.linux" in this ^ yes, it´s the same > directory, and the two READMEs that are there don't have such a script > (at least not that I can recognize). you´re right. i remember i´ve seen such a file in 2.0.36 and can´t it see now in my 2.2.9. but you´re lucky: this script is by no means ´debianish´. if executed, it creates some devices in /dev which are not suited for debian. instead of that, got to /dev and execute ./MAKEDEV audio as root. (or use fakeroot) > I installed saytime as a test program; it appears to run, but I hear > nothing. later, if cat /dev/sndstat shows your sound is working > > I still don't quite get how modules work, so I'm sure I've just gotten > something screwed up, and in conjunction with faulty documentation (the > aforementioned Sound HOWTO), I'm at a loss. the howto´s should be used as clue-guide only, imho. > I've clued in enough to the various posts that I know there's such > commands as lsmod, insmod, rmmod, and modprobe, and I've tinkered around > with them, but haven't had much luck. The lsmod shows: vmnet, vmmon, > binfmt-aout, vfat, and fat. I've tried to "insmod sb" (guessing that > "sb" means "SoundBlaster") and "insmod sound", but there's "no module > found by that name". so do you own a soundblaster? which sort of? hafi
Re: Netscape crashing -- a lot.
Craig McPherson wrote: > > I'm hoping that someone will be able to offer some advice on this, > because it's annoying when a program crashes under Linux even > more often than it crashes under Windows. since you´re using glibc2.1, the best way would be - imho - either to use the libc5 version together with oldlibs or to try the just released netscape 4.6.1 hafi
Re: default ungziped /usr/doc/*/* ?
Steve Lamb wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sat, 12 Jun 1999 19:00:56 -0400, Ed Cogburn wrote: > > >Steve Lamb wrote: > > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA1 > > Gotta love people who don't know how to delete lines, eh? Geez. > > >> On Sat, 12 Jun 1999 22:08:34 +0200, Hartmut Figge wrote: > >> > >> >yeah, but why so complicated? > >> >mc is just wonderful for things like that. > >> > >> Because mc isn't a pager. :) > > > From original message: "I am wondering about way to grep or to > >view with editor /usr/doc/*/* files." > > From your message "yeah, but why so complicated?" well, now i _must_ respond. that wasn´t ed´s line, but mine. should i know wright : geez, people who couldn´t read a mail? no, i will not. please, please, be friendly. > > > He never specified the solution must be a pager, but if it must > >be a pager, then 'most' can do this just as easily as 'less' > >does. MC is still my first choice, though. > > zgrep foo bar.gz seems to be (z)less complicated than mc -c, going down > to the file, then 3/F3 to view it, *then* do a search, in my book. Use > the tools that are there, not focus on one. :P let´s agree to: different people like different ways. hafi
Re: Where is /usr/bin/file?
Greg Starkes wrote: > > I downloaded xmms 0.9 last night. make complained about not being able > to find /usr/bin/file. I used dpkg --search to see what packaged owned > it, and found nothing. Is this not a part of the debian distribution? I > noticed that RedHat has it. just fired up dselect -> select -> /file, that revealed (on slink) file version 3.26-1 in ´Standard packages in section utils´. also, if you search for file in www.debian.org/distrib/packages you will be successful. hafi
Re: default ungziped /usr/doc/*/* ?
"Jonathan D. Proulx" wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 12, 1999 at 11:01:26PM +0900, OhkumaTadayoshi wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I am wondering about way to grep or to view with editor /usr/doc/*/* files. > > zgrep > zless > zmore > > all work on gzipped files. yeah, but why so complicated? mc is just wonderful for things like that. hafi
Re: Still Trying [WAS: Re: Another Newbie Q : Sound Configuration]
Mark Wagnon wrote: [about sound problems] > Looking at the first line, I'm wondering if my isapnp stuff is okay. to exclude this possibility i would initialize the card under dos. a few days ago, i switched to kernel 2.2.9. yesterday i felt something was missing - i wanted back my sound. first attempt was no luck, so i decided to try brute force. i choosed _all_ soundmodules during ´make menuconfig´ - wouldn´t enlarge the kernel size - and disabled the pnp-stuff. i didn´t use isapnp, but initialized my soundcard in dos. then, looking at the sound related files in the kernel - especially in documentation/sound - i played with modprobe, insmod, lsmod and rmmod on the drivers, which could eventually be usefull. well, now i have back wss, mpu and the other stuff. today, i´ll put the required entrys in conf.modules. if you go the same way, then i have no doubt that you also will get back your sound. it costs time, but i´ve learned much. finally, _if_ the sound is working, _then_ i would play with pnpdump and isapnp. > Man if I ever get sound working, I'm gonna write a little howto that > walks people like through the steps :) well, there are so many soundcards, that i fear, your howto will become a book ;-) hafi
Re: where is xemacs21?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi, there. > > Anyone know where to get the debian package for xemacs21.1? hm, not to be found on debian.org, but use http://ftpsearch.lycos.com/?form=medium and search for xemacs21, sorted by date/host. i´ve just done that and found the packages. hafi
Re: PPP
Andy Bottman wrote: > > Thanks, I have done this at least 10 times in the last 2 days, I > don't think I am missing any prompts. I am looking for more than the > obvius, is there somting that I could not recognize as related to PPP. ok. i´ll send you my .config per pm, so that you can compare the settings hafi
Re: PPP
Andy Bottman wrote: > > How do include PPP support in the kernel when I compile? I have > been using 'make config' and 'make menu config' to configure the kernel and > even though I thought I have been choosing ppp support under networking I > am still without. > This whole issue started after I was compiling to support my ISA > NE2000 ethernet card. hm, what would i do in such a case? certainly, i would run ´make menuconfig´, go to _every_ point and read the help page. sure, this costs time, but it´s worth ;-) imho hafi
Re: How to get stats on modem?
Jonathan Lupa wrote: > > What program/package can one use to see the current flow rates of their > modem? Any pointers to docs would be much appreciated! =) i´ve used iptraf for that reason in my suse-days. hafi
[Fwd: Re: netscape status?]
hi, the following mail should be interesting for glibc2.1 netscape users ... hafi Original Message Subject: Re: netscape status? Resent-Date: 10 Jun 1999 17:35:21 - Resent-From: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Resent-CC: recipient list not shown: ;recipient list not shown:; Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:31:32 -0400 From: Johnie Ingram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Greg Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org "Greg" == Greg Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Greg> kind of egcs optimization bug in the X libraries. Has this been Greg> dealt with? Because I still see netscape crashing every few Greg> minutes and it's becoming increasingly maddening. It has been; with the optimization bug netscape would bus error almost immediately (during roaming update, for me). Crashing every few minutes is normal. :-( netgod Oh, and my /proc/kcore is over 50MB -- can I remove it and get back that disk space? mwr, yea do that :P -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: i want a copy of netscape 4.51
Adam Shand wrote: > > > i suspect, that you have switched to glibc2.1 and fear, that netscape > > 4.5 now would be unstable also for you. my communicator 4.6 (linked to > > glibc2.0) is not more unstable as my formerly communicator 4.5. > > all i did was upgrade netscape. i didn't upgrade my libc (and in fact i've > been running glibc2.1 for a couple months, since before 4.51 was available). well, that sounds as if 4.6 is more sensitive to glibc2.1 than 4.5 was. > that helps? it crashes about 1 of 4 times i shut down a netscape window, > and about 1 of 2 times i try and enter a password protected site ... since > these are both things i do a lot it means i'm getting *Very* frustrated. not so on my glibc2.0 slink. but if you want to go back to 4.5, then there is no problem. if i need a file, i use http://ftpsearch.lycos.com/?form=medium . just done so for communicator-smotif-45 and found a lot of deb´s ;-) hafi
Re: help! i'm drowning!
jeff k wrote: > my modem-card (Megahertz XJ1144). > I do know that it is not a winmodem, but it doesn't show up you´re really sure about that it isn´t a winmodem? a modem problem i would investigate with minicom. there you can send commands to your modem and watch the answers. hafi
Re: i want a copy of netscape 4.51
Adam Shand wrote: > > hi. > > netscape 4.5 had the bug where it disappeared whenever you clicked on a > mailto url, and netscape 4.6 is *HIDEOUSLY* unstable and just cores all the > time. i suspect, that you have switched to glibc2.1 and fear, that netscape 4.5 now would be unstable also for you. my communicator 4.6 (linked to glibc2.0) is not more unstable as my formerly communicator 4.5. hafi
Re: slink with glibc2.1
Raj Manandhar wrote: > > Is there any way of trying out the libc2.1 package from potato without > upgrading everything to potato? I tried a simple dpkg -i on the .deb, > but one needs apt>0.3, and that apt requires libc2.1. on 06/03/99 i downloaded apt_0.3.6.1_i386.deb for slink. the url(?) was in a message from a(?) debian-list. you should be able to find the url in the list-archive. > I'm kind of leery of upgrading everything to unstable, but I figure if > I just try libc, I can downgrade if it is too unstable for me. It -i- will not allow libc2.1 on my slink. > seems like a lot of new stuff (Netscape 4.6 for example) requires > libc2.1. not, if you download the tarball from netscape and use the debian-installer for netscape. or you can go to http://ftp.netgod.net/x/ with many other ´slinkish´ debs. hafi
Re: cat'ing a binary does some really funky things with my display
Mark Wright wrote: > > Every once in a while, I will mistakenly 'cat' a binary. This almost always > results in my console going haywire. Now most text appears as graphic > characters (blocks, arrows, lines - all that extended ascii stuff). I have > no idea, short of a re-boot, how to recover my console. Any idea what's > happening? try typing reset hafi
Re: Another Newbie Q : Sound Configuration
Mark Wagnon wrote: > I have a AWE 64 that's PNP. From Windows, the resources it's using are: oh, you´re a lucky guy. i myself own a terratec maestro 16/96 and there is no chance of cooperation with isapnp. you could do as i do: intialize the card under dos and boot linux with loadlin, or, preferably in your case, go to deja or altavista. i´ve seen your question answered a lot of times. hafi
search results
... in the packages search of the debian web-server gives the results under three headers: ´Release´ and ´Package(size)´ are clear, but what´s the definition of ´Quality´ ? e.g., a search for alsa shows for alsalib0.1.1-1 a quality of 33% and for alsalib.1.3-dev0.1.3-2 a quality of 99%. curious hafi
Re: XFS XFree86 3.3.3
Patrick Colbeck wrote: [helpfull hints to xfs and xfstt] hi, thx for this info. i´m sure it will be very helpfull for others. hafi
Re: netscape with vi's keys
Shao Zhang wrote: > > Hi, > Is it possible to bind the netscape's scroll up, down keys to the > same as vi's, > just like what we can do in mutt! hi, take a look in Netscape.ad. there are a lot of key-translations, which can be customized. hth hafi
Re: [comp.os.linux.misc] I am not impressed with Debian so far.
Paul Seelig wrote: > Please note that it was not me writing this message. I use Debian but you decided to tease the list ... hafi
Re: Installing from disk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The problem is that I'm downloading on a Win95 machine...I don't think i can > get dpkg to work on this machine... I need to see if I can find a utility > that works on both 95 and linux (yeah right) > > Colin Winters well, you _could_ use rar. but it´s shareware, you have to register if you use it after a trial-period of 30 days. alternatively, i would just write a small assembler or turbopascal programm (maybe basic) to split a large file into chunks that fit on a disk and put them together with cat on the linux side. i vaguely remember i have seen such a programm for dos in times long ago. hafi
Re: Netscape.ad ... solved
"Noah L. Meyerhans" wrote: > On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Hartmut Figge wrote: > > > ... should allow to customize communicator/netscape. > > > > a quick test in one of mine parallel-linuxes: > > "Open Page..." -> "Open the Page..." (search and replace, 2 occurences) > > gives the expected change in the File menu of the communicator. > > > > but not in slink. > > This is more an X specific thing. You need to tell X where to look for firstly, thx for the reply. i solved the problem with a link /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/Netscape -> /usr/lib/netscape/Netscape.ad now, if i would ... how about a communicator in pink intead of grey ;-) i´ll now stop wasting bandwith with problems of minor interest and return to communicate mostly per pm. hafi
Netscape.ad ...
... should allow to customize communicator/netscape. a quick test in one of mine parallel-linuxes: "Open Page..." -> "Open the Page..." (search and replace, 2 occurences) gives the expected change in the File menu of the communicator. but not in slink. perhaps someone can save me from diving into the depths of the debian way to handle netscape. hafi p.s. under debian testet on /usr/lib/netscape/Netscape.ad for communicator 4.5 (installed from .deb´s) and communicator 4.6 (tarball from netscape with debian-installer)
Re: netscape 4.6
Serge Gavrilov wrote: > > Hello! > > Does anybody know: is (unoffficical) netscape 4.6 packed for Slink system > exists somewhere? in order to keep my slink clean from the ´horrible´ glibc 2.1, i also had to found a way. i decided to download the tarball from netscape and to use the debian-installer. till now no problem (fingers crossed) hafi
Re: Getting Netscape to use my mailer
Christian Dysthe wrote: > > Hi, > > I am not able to make Netscape open and use my email program when I click on > an > email link. I have tried all kinds of commands, but no go. I use XFmail, but > it > should be a "standard" way to do this? i have collected an url from some messages, because i also want to do something similar - if only i had the time ... anyway, you could have a look at http://developer.netscape.com/software/sdks/mailnews.html hafi
Re: fetchmail won't work in slink
hi, $ locate fetchmail | grep bin /usr/bin/fetchmail /usr/bin/fetchmailconf have you tried fetchmailconf ? hafi
Re: Ability to read MS Word files
Supriyo Sircar wrote: > IS there something similar to convert from PDF to text or to HTML. well, let´s see: $ locate pdf2 | grep bin /usr/bin/pdf2dsc /usr/bin/pdf2ps $ locate ps2 | grep bin /usr/bin/ps2ascii /usr/bin/ps2epsi /usr/bin/ps2frag /usr/bin/ps2pdf /usr/bin/ps2pk /usr/X11R6/bin/fig2ps2tex don´t remember, if i have used some of them. also you should search with ´to´ instead of ´2´. hth hafi
Re: Netscape 4.6 crashes
Matthew Gregan wrote: > > On Mon, May 31, 1999 at 07:29:48PM +0200, Andreas Voegele wrote: > > The faulty behaviour is most obvious if you've got more than one > > Navigator window opened. Instead of closing the selected window only > > the whole application crashes sometimes. > > I've been having that exact same problem here... Running potato with kernel > 2.2.9 and Communicator 4.6. I was also having the problem with an earlier > version (probably 4.51 or 4.5). hm, running slink, communicator 4.6 (tarball with debian-installer) - nothing unusual. perhaps an potato (glibc2.1 problem?) btw: nothing unsusual means, that netscape is eating memory like a crocodile - lastly startet with 12mb and ending with 109mb. hafi
Re: Help!!! Linux plus IBM! again :(
Gancho Tenev Tenev wrote: > > Hi !!! > I did not speak about Debian Linux Instalation ! :) > ( nor for rescue nor bootup diskette !!! ) > Some IBM computers ( may be all ) have got setup ( for their hardware ) on > their HDD > ( on separate hdd partition ). > On other computers I press "DEL" and enter in setup program to configure HDD, > time, IRQ, > memory, power management etc... I don't know how to do this on IBM PC (PS/2) > ... There is > a diskette for this I am not sure ... :(( ha, just 2 days ago my nephew got an old ibm - and i had to solve a similar riddle. the results of my research: some ibm´s _need_ a diskette, which may (or not) be obtained from the ibm ftp-server. some ibm´s require ctrl-alt-ins simultaneously at the right moment after power-on. in the case of my nephew´s ibm i discovered, that i had to push the f1-key at the right moment. perhaps some of this will work for your ibm. hafi
Re: dselect woes
Kent West wrote: > > On Tue, 25 May 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Can it be! CAN IT BE!! > > > > Am I a complete idiot or is Deselect one of the most diabolical > > programs ever? > > > > > > > Donald MacDougall > > USC School of Medicine > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > AMEN! (for the reasons snipped and other similar issues) dselect is missing a menu-line like ´discard changes´ between ´select´ and ´install´ or better: ´view changes´ with the chance to discard. imho hafi
Re: ATI RAGE IIC PCI
>From hschmude Mon Apr 12 19:47:49 1999 Subject: Re: ATI RAGE IIC PCI Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:47:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] Hi, I had the same problem when I bought an ATI 3D Charger with the RAGE II C chip. It was solved when I upgraded to xmach64-3.3.3.1. I got it from SuSE - http://www.suse.de -, but meanwhile you may get it from http://master.debian.org/~vincent/xfree-3.3.3.1. (I'm not quite sure, don't hit me if I'm wrong...) By the way, there was no need to upgrade all of xfree, the server runs in the old 3.3.2.3 environment. Regards H. Schmude
DEBIAN 2.0 and old 386 machines
Recently I tried to install DEBIAN 2.0 -kernel 2.0.34 - on an old 386 machine with the following configuration: mainbord 386 with CT 82C206 / 301 / 302 Chipset no copro ISA bus only 8 Meg memory Adaptec 1542 C 2 SCSI Disks with 240 M and 4.3 G VGA Tseng ET4000 (generic) multi IO for lp and serial During the installation procedure - mainly when dpkg starts its work after having installed the base system - dpkg ends up with segmentation faults and the system is only partial usable. Only ls and some other minor commands still work, but it is impossible to do a ps or reboot. New logins are impossible, sometimes init complains aboout gettys respawning too fast. There is no way arround the reset-switch. I tried out a customized kernel built on an other machine with only 386 support, copro emulation etc. with the same results. As on this machine, in formwer times, linux was run, I tried to reinstall the old system, a SuSE-Slackware with kernel 1.2.13, and - it worked! Why the [EMAIL PROTECTED] the Debian System is unwilling to do the job? Is it a matter of kernel/lib versions? Any hints? TIA Hartmut Schmude [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: REQUEST
"m.nau" wrote: > After starting dselect as / , it is asking for a "block device". > But it does NOT accept any HD!!! > PS: > The installation took place at /dev/hdc2 (whitch is not accepted /dev/hdc ? hafi
Re: installing debian
mike shupp wrote: > Try the MS-DOS fdisk. Think of it as a professional courtesy: fdisk > programs are reluctant to remove partitions put up by other OSs. MS-DOS, the rescuer of Debian ... SCNR hafi