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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2017 #975

[Ian Martin]

The emacs (non-DFSG) info pages will be useful for novices, but will
be absent unless you install them. The emacsNN-common-non-dfsg package
for the corresponding version (NN) of emacs is one way to do so. 


Geany +1 ( with the addon packages).  Also Bluefish.

Novices are on a steep learning curve as it is.  If you're trying to 
encourage them to consider programming as a viable use of time, 
minimising the number of new things to learn before they achieve a 
result is important.  Most computer users already know how to interact 
with an Office text editor; changing the paradigm to that of vim or 
emacs condemns them to having to learn a whole new way of opening/ 
writing/ saving.


While I have used emacs & vim, there's a feeling of intense satisfaction 
on actually managing to save a changed file without any unpleasant 
surprises.  It shouldn't be that much of a relief! If 
copy/move/edit/save requires significant cognitive effort, there's 
something wrong with the process and only the stubborn will survive.  
Pointing people to the manual for that basic a process is not a 
solution; if I bought a bicycle that required me to read the manual 
before I could ride it, it'd be returned unfit for purpose a.s.a.p.



Ian.

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 Ian Martin 
  5:03 PM

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #1691

[Ian Martin]

Hi,
I bought myself a Dell L502X recently with Optimus technology (= dual graphics 
card).  After a lot of playing, I discovered the latest edition of Mint Debian 
Edition (the iso came out mid- August) will install and run on it without any 
hitches.
There doesn't seem to be a lot of benefit buying the card if running Linux, 
but this is the first distro I found where the dual card didn't result in 
loss of output.  I suspect if you get any distro running a kernel more recent 
than 2.39 you should be fine (which is probably why your Ubuntu iso is OK).
I did try to change to the proprietary Nvidia driver a few days back; ended up 
reinstalling.  I'm sure it's possible, but didn't have time or 
energy to chase it up.

The basic idea (in my understanding) is not that you run 2 separate graphics 
cards.  The secondary ( more featureful/ expensive/ power hungry) card is not 
directly linked to your main display; if the primary(basic) card can't 
handle graphics demand, it passes it on to the secondary, which then writes 
back to to graphics buffer of the first, _not_ to the display.  Just to make it 
fun, apparently MS has access to the API for that, but nobody else has.  

The theory is that the OS can shut off the second graphics card or turn it on 
as requested by programs which know to pass info on their graphics 
demand.  Alternatively, the OS can ask for the card to activate if it 
recognises a demanding program or if the user has specified that graphics 
mode.  Ignoring the technology won't help; it looks like it may be the 
defacto standard in most new laptops soon.

The problem is when you install an OS, it's got to recognise Optimus (the 
name for the graphics switching) technology is on the motherboard; if not, it 
seems to assume the display is on the high end card output and you end up with 
a blinking cursor.  With some laptops you can turn off the high end card in the 
BIOS; not much of a solution, but you do get a working display.  The low end 
card _has_ to be working; it does the actual drawing of the buffer on the 
screen, even if the high end card does the processing to fill the buffer.

The relevant Linux projects are bumblebee (you need to have watched 
Transformers to appreciate the name) and ironhand.  They're both currently 
in development+++, have a look 
http://www.martin-juhl.dk/2011/08/reassemble-of-the-bee/ at that for the back 
story.
Ian



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Subject: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #1691



undefineddebian-user-digest Digest                Volume 2011 : Issue 1691

Today's Topics:
  USB ACM vs USB memory device conflic  [ "Thomas H. George" 
 ]
  Re: Free drivers for AMD Radeon (Vai  [ Dan  ]
  Re: Console access using F1 etc       [ John Foster 
 ]
  Re: 'apt-get dist-upgrade' from Lenn  [ Alex 
 ]
  Re: Console access using F1 etc       [ Whit Hansell 
 I recently had to do a new installation of squeeze on a production server.

Excellent!

> Its been a LONG time since I did that and I see a few things are different
> since my last time. I can not access the consoles by hitting ctrl,alt,
> delete.

You mean Control-Alt-F1 instead.  Or Control-Alt-F2 and similar for
other function keys.

After 

Re: Holiday Project for my job

[Ian Martin]

>1.  Which distro to use?  I've used Mint before in a similar setting
>(and was pleased) but I'm now stuck with 6 year old Dells with almost no
>video acceleration and .5 G memory each.  I'm thinking XFCE with Mint or
>Xbuntu, but am open to others (even a stock debian install which I use
>on my home machine) but I will not be able to update unless I do so
>manually (which a CD or thumbdrive).

>2.  How do I 'clone' the machine to a CD or, preferably, a thumb drive
>so I can install the same configuration to all machines (limiting menu
>options, put in educational games, add openoffice or libreoffice, etc.)?

Another option would be to roll your own with Debian live ( 
http://live.debian.net/ ) and add the packages you want.  If you're going to do 
that, stable is the easiest distro to use.

Installation on a new laptop.

[Ian Martin]

Hi,
I've just had a whole bunch of fun installing on a Dell XPS.  The problems 
sound similiar, but my impression on the Dell was that it was the Optimus 
graphics that caused the problem-  neither Intel, NVIDIA or Radeon apparently 
have any responsibility (except to users of a decrepit OS), so they haven't 
made any effort to get the software functional for the hardware you bought.  If 
you google the bumblebee project you'll see the sterling work that has been 
done to reverse engineer it, and it should hopefully be getting to a distro 
near you soon.  Essentially, new laptops apparently have stuffed graphics due 
to a closed code powersaving mechanism.


I eventually managed to get it working with a Linux Mint Debian Edition 
install; with the (pure) Debian netinstall the best I got was a terminal with 
V4l driving the graphics.  

The Ethernet card I still don't have working.  In a rather surprising twist, 
the wireless works out of the box- go figure (and now that I'm back in my 
lazyboy I don't have much incentive to figure out the ethernet problem...)


Ian.



>Re: Still can't install wheezy on a 2011 iMacS30/08/11 13:51
>Hi again,

>I was directed to the wiki:

>http://wiki.debian.org/iMacIntel

>Apparently this section has been updated:

>Update (2011/08/12) : aluminium iMac Intel 12,1 / Wheezy , see the
>"video" section.

>However this didn't work for me.  Even applying the radeon.modeset=0 
>line in the boot parameters just leads to a blank screen with a flashing 
>cursor at the top.  Booting into rescue mode gives me a root shell, and 
>I applied the suggested updates to /etc/apt/sources.list, but aptitude 
>update failed with messages saying the server locations couldn't be 
>resolved.  I tried a ping to the actual IP address, but got the message 
>"Network unreachable".

>So I'm still stuck.  I think this could possibly be bug # 627705, lack 
>of kernel support for the Broadcom ethernet card.  But I'm not sure.  My 
>installer was a weekly build from a few weeks ago -- should I try a 
>later build?  I don't want to take the time if I'm just going to end up 
>in the same place.

>Cheers,  Mike.