Re: Gnome-Panel no longer starts at login, or after
--- Jules Dubois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:19:38 +0200, Andrea > Vettorello wrote: > > > On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:31:48 -0700 (PDT), Ian > Thomas > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> [GNOME panel doesn't start using Sawfish WM] > >> > > Have you deleted the ~/.sawfish dir too, or at > least the > > ~/.sawfish/sessions dir? > > I can confirm that this worked for me just now, > where nothing else I tried > fixed that problem. Thank you. This didn't work for me. I upgraded to testing/Sarge. No problems as of yet. The new Gnome is outstanding. Ian __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome-Panel no longer starts at login, or after
--- Ian Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Andrea Vettorello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:34:35 -0700 (PDT), Ian > Thomas > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- Andrea Vettorello > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > If you open an xterm (or gnome term) and > launch > > the > > > > "panel &" command, > > > > the panel start? > > > > > > $ panel & > > > > > > GLib-CRITICAL **: file gstrfuncs.c: line 1348 > > > (g_strsplit): assertion `string != NULL' failed. > > > > > > No panel starts. I haven't found any > information > > > about how to fix this problem from the following > > > sources: > > > > > > debian mailing list archives > > > gnome mailing list archives > > > google > > > > > > I'm a little disappointed that this would happen > > in > > > Debian Stable and surprised that no one else has > > > encountered this problem. I'll keep looking for > > an > > > answer and post if I find one. > > > > > > > I suspect a stale/broken config somewhere in your > > home. Have you tried > > with a freshly created dummy account? > > I tried previously by renaming my entire .gnome > directory to something else. This didn't bring back > the panel. However, after creating a guest account, > I > got a panel on login. I'm going to rename all of > the > gnome related directories in my home folder and see > if > that doesn't bring back the panel. The solution > appears to be close now. Final update: I deleted every file in my home directory that could possibly be related to gnome, leaving only the following config files: .bash_profile, .bashrc, .emacs, .fetchmailrc, .procmailrc, .ssh Gnome started up with default settings and still failed to show a panel. Watching the icons appear across the bottom of the splash screen appeared to show two gnome panel icons. This would mean that two gnome panels attempted to start. Doing the following showed that a panel was running ps aux | grep panel It wasn't however, showing up on the screen. Repeated usage of the above combination showed that the panel kept starting and dieing, as it was listed with a different procid each time. I was also unable to start a panel from the terminal. Gnome told me that a panel was already running and asked if I would like to start one anyway. I said yes, and still, no panel appeared. I'm giving up on finding a solution to this problem. I'm going to wait until Sarge is released and update Gnome when that happens. I'm hoping it's soon. Gnome 1.4, in my experience, has been a complete disaster. My thanks to Anrea for attempting to figure out this problem with me. Ian __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome-Panel no longer starts at login, or after
--- Andrea Vettorello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 14:34:35 -0700 (PDT), Ian Thomas > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- Andrea Vettorello > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > If you open an xterm (or gnome term) and launch > the > > > "panel &" command, > > > the panel start? > > > > $ panel & > > > > GLib-CRITICAL **: file gstrfuncs.c: line 1348 > > (g_strsplit): assertion `string != NULL' failed. > > > > No panel starts. I haven't found any information > > about how to fix this problem from the following > > sources: > > > > debian mailing list archives > > gnome mailing list archives > > google > > > > I'm a little disappointed that this would happen > in > > Debian Stable and surprised that no one else has > > encountered this problem. I'll keep looking for > an > > answer and post if I find one. > > > > I suspect a stale/broken config somewhere in your > home. Have you tried > with a freshly created dummy account? I tried previously by renaming my entire .gnome directory to something else. This didn't bring back the panel. However, after creating a guest account, I got a panel on login. I'm going to rename all of the gnome related directories in my home folder and see if that doesn't bring back the panel. The solution appears to be close now. Ian ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome-Panel no longer starts at login, or after
--- Andrea Vettorello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you open an xterm (or gnome term) and launch the > "panel &" command, > the panel start? $ panel & GLib-CRITICAL **: file gstrfuncs.c: line 1348 (g_strsplit): assertion `string != NULL' failed. No panel starts. I haven't found any information about how to fix this problem from the following sources: debian mailing list archives gnome mailing list archives google I'm a little disappointed that this would happen in Debian Stable and surprised that no one else has encountered this problem. I'll keep looking for an answer and post if I find one. Ian ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome-Panel no longer starts at login, or after
--- Ian Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Andrea VeVettorelloanandreaevettorellomgmailom> > wrote: > > > On Tue, 28 SeSep004 16:09:40 -0700 (PDT), Ian > Thomas > > wrote: > > > A few days ago I logged into GNOME using GDGDMnd > > the > > > gnome panel failed to start up. That left me > with > > > just sasawfishunning. This is usable but I > would > > like > > > the Gnome panel back for convenience sake. I > have > > > tried the following: > > > > > > Renaming each of the following files or > > directories: > > > ~/.gnome/session > > > ~/.gnome/panel > > > ~/.gnome > > > > > > None of these made the panel come back. > > Attempting to > > > start the gnome panel after logging in gives the > > > following: > > > > > > $ panel > > > > > > > I could be wrong, but to start the gnome panel, > you > > should use the > > "gnome-panel" command (i don't have a Woody box > with > > Gnome installed > > to check) > > It may have changed in gnome 2, but panel is the > command for "gnome panel" in Gnome 1.4. I do have > the > following commands that include the prefix > 'gnome-panel'. They are: $1-add-launcher, > $1-properties-cacapplet-panel-scscreenshot > > In the file, /etc/gnome/default.session, the > follwing entry to 'panel' is listed. > > 7,RestartCommand --smclient-id default7 > > This line is listed three times in different places > corresponding to one for each session listed in > /etc/gnome/default.session. After having moved my > session file in my home directory out of the way, I > have tried logging in using each of the default > settings, classic, default, and nautilus, listed in > this file. The gnome panel doesn't come up any of > these times. I, however, don't have an entry for > panel in my own session file. There should be one, > and I haven't edited this file by hand. > > Thanks for the response. Any more suggestions? Some how my response got butchered by Yahoo. I've edited and it should come through okay now. Ian ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome-Panel no longer starts at login, or after
--- Andrea VeVettorelloanandreaevettorellomgmailom> wrote: > On Tue, 28 SeSep004 16:09:40 -0700 (PDT), Ian Thomas > wrote: > > A few days ago I logged into GNOME using GDGDMnd > the > > gnome panel failed to start up. That left me with > > just sasawfishunning. This is usable but I would > like > > the Gnome panel back for convenience sake. I have > > tried the following: > > > > Renaming each of the following files or > directories: > > ~/.gnome/session > > ~/.gnome/panel > > ~/.gnome > > > > None of these made the panel come back. > Attempting to > > start the gnome panel after logging in gives the > > following: > > > > $ panel > > > > I could be wrong, but to start the gnome panel, you > should use the > "gnome-panel" command (i don't have a Woody box with > Gnome installed > to check) It may have changed in gnome 2, but panel is the command for "gnome panel" in Gnome 1.4. I do have the following commands that include the prefix 'gnome-panel'. They are: $1-add-launcher, $1-properties-cacapplet-panel-scscreenshot In the file, /etc/gnome/default.session, the fofollwingall to 'panel' is listed. 7,ReRestartCommandanel --smsmlient-id default7 This line is listed three times in different places corresponding to one for each session listed in /etc/gnome/default.session. After having moved my session file in my home directory out of the way, I have tried logging in using each of the default settings, classic, default, and nautilus, listed in this file. The gnome panel doesn't come up any of these times. I, however, don't have an entry for panel in my own session file. There should be one, and I haven't ededitedhis file by hand. Thanks for the response. Any more suggestions? Ian __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gnome-Panel no longer starts at login, or after
A few days ago I logged into GNOME using GDM and the gnome panel failed to start up. That left me with just sawfish running. This is usable but I would like the Gnome panel back for convenience sake. I have tried the following: Renaming each of the following files or directories: ~/.gnome/session ~/.gnome/panel ~/.gnome None of these made the panel come back. Attempting to start the gnome panel after logging in gives the following: $ panel ** WARNING **: Could not get name service! ** ERROR **: file goad.c: line 660 (real_goad_server_activate): assertion failed: (name_service != CORBA_OBJECT_NIL) aborting... The 'gnome-name-service' is running according to 'ps'. Any suggestions? Running Stable: Gnome 1.4 Ian __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trouble with ifup (Resolved)
On Aug 19, 2004, at 6:02 PM, Stefan O'Rear wrote: Try removing the backslashes. My /e/n/interfaces: auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.2.4 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.2.255 gateway 192.168.2.1 network 192.168.254.0 Removing the backslashes worked. After reading the manual for interfaces(5), I was unclear about what constituted a line. The syntax of the interfaces file if very similar to the arguments of ifconfig(8), so I thought all the options needed to be on one line. Thanks for the quick response. Ian Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trouble with ifup
I'm not able to get the file, /etc/network/interfaces, to be read successfully with by ifup(8). The following is a copy of what is the contents of the interfaces file (I've left out the comments). auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static\ address 192.168.2.3\ netmask 255.255.255.0\ gateway 192.168.2.1 When running 'ifup -a', I get the following error, /etc/network/interfaces:12: too many parameters for iface line ifup: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces" Line 12 is referring to the line containing 'gateway'. I have attempted to format this file in numerous ways, all according to the specification defined in interfaces(5), without success. Any suggestions? Ian Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: boot from rescue into single user or with no modules loaded
--- nate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ian Thomas said: > > > >Now the system won't get past these error > > messages. It starts to boot, then these messages > just > > keep repeating over and over again. How can I > boot up > > with no modules loaded from a boot disk or the > CD-ROM? > > I figure if I can do this, I'll update LILO and be > in > > good shape. > > be patient and you'll succeed. ive had the same > problems > before. the screen scrolls like mad spitting out > those > errors but the system is still (barely) functional. > > best thing i can reccomend is to type very > carefully, > don't expect to be able to read whats on the screen > very > easily. i remember in vi i would have to exit/reload > vi about 20 times to be able to edit/save a file. > because > the screen kept filling with those errors. > > ive done it a few times so i know its possible its > just > very annoying :) > > nate > It never finished booting. I was able to log in only once. There Iused vi to edit the lilo.conf file. I used ctrl-r to refresh the screen when the modprobes fell like rain. I must not have done something correctly. The kernel does not load all the way. I need a way to unload all the modules before booting or going into single user, from a rescue cd-rom or boot disk. Ian __ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com
boot from rescue into single user or with no modules loaded
The subject pretty much says it all. I needed to install Windows98 to use a program called Xilinx. After doing this I went and installed System Commander so I could dual boot into GNU/Linux and Windows 98. System Commander wasn't able to boot GNU/Linux. I uninstalled it and tried to boot into GNU/Linux using a boot disk. The first time I was able to with some problems. Here are the error messages: modprobe: Note: /etc/modules.conf is more recent than /lib/modules/2.2.19pre17/modules.dep modprobe: can't locate module net-pf-1 Now the system won't get past these error messages. It starts to boot, then these messages just keep repeating over and over again. How can I boot up with no modules loaded from a boot disk or the CD-ROM? I figure if I can do this, I'll update LILO and be in good shape. Ian __ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com
Re: No luck with getting xdm to work
--- Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > My last guess, are these the apropriate > permissions for tmp? > > > > drwsrwsrwt > > > > Maybe the necessary tmp file cannot be > created due to these permissions. > > Any more ideas? > > > > No, that is not the correct permission for /tmp. It > should be 1777 i.e. > drwxrwxrwt. When you replied, I got this message when trying to retrieve your message from yahoo's POP3 server in /var/log/mail.log. Oct 14 08:45:38 solo sendmail[1362]: IAA01362: ruleset=check_mail, arg1=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1], reject=451 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Sender domain must resolve Not sure if this is how your mail goes out or how mine comes in. At any rate, I changed my /tmp permissions to 1777 and still no luck with xdm. I enter root and the password and the screen goes blank and returns with the login screen. My own user ID gets the same response when attempting to login. Any other suggestions? Thanks for the help this far Ian __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com
Re: Minimum RAM Requirement.
Check out the Linux Documentation Project, it has instructions on how to setup a system with 4 mb. I have followed these instructions and gotten an IBM laptop with slightly less than 4 mb to work fine. Although the installs start with non-debian dists the author says that you can use almost any distro to add more functionality after the initial barebones system is up. Ian --- kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > on Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 09:59:39AM -0700, > Simmons-Davis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I would like to know the minimum amount of RAM a > computer needs in order to > > run a basic Linux setup and then also the minimum > for X Window System. > > Some guidelines. > > - 4 M: bare minimum for Linux kernel, and you'll > need to specify some > configurations to get there. > > - 8 M: minimum basic linux configuration. I > don't think modern Debians > will install into 8 MB. > > - ~16-32 M: you'll need something in this range > to let the packaging > system run. It likes to store stuff in RAM. > > - ~32-64 M: minimum I'd recommend for a > single-usr workstation, > running X, a lightweight window manager (not > GNOME/KDE), and, > sometimes, Netscape. You'll be swapping a fair > piece. > > - ~96-128 M: comfortable single-user general > purpose workstation. > Tends to minimize swapping under most > circumstances. > > - 128 M - 1G: high end workstation, mid-level > server. Particularly > useful if you're running VMWare, StarOffice, > that bloated stuck pig > of an office suite, or a heavily loaded services > (apache, mysql, > file/print). > > - 1G - 4G: high-end server. I believe the > maximum addressable memory > on Linux is currently 4GB, with a patch. Could > be wrong on this. > > There's a lot of flexibility on all of this, and > personal expectations > matter. More memory is almost always the first > route to a faster > system. However, there's no reason a "workable" > system can't > > For swap, the general rule of thumb is 1-2x > installed RAM, though some > people top out swap at some point, generally between > 128 MB and 1 GB. I > tend to take the multiplier rule all the way up to > max swap (4 GB, IIRC). > You can add swapfiles at any point later, but swap > partitions are more > efficient (they don't fragment) and harder to add > (you have to > repartition). > > You can always experiment with lower memory > configurations by specifying > the appropriat MEM= boot option, to see how your > system would perform > with less memory installed. Results can be > interesting. > > Currently, memory for reasonably up-to-date systems > is pretty cheap > (DIMMs). If you're buying the older SIMMs, prepare > to pay a premium. > > -- > Karsten M. Self > http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ > What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? > There is no K5 cabal > http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ > http://www.kuro5hin.org > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: Setting Up Partitions:Solved,Thanks
I finished installing the system. I got all the partitions working after having to use expert mode in fdisk. I then jumped back into the debian curses install and it went right on to the next step, no problems. That is a very robust installer. As of right now I am booting from floppy until I get pppd up and running so I can download GRUB and installed. Apt-get looks great and seems like it will make the transition form FreeBSD ports very easy. Ian I look forward to the day that I can offer helpful advice to other users. Thanks for the quick responses. --- kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: > on Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 08:09:56AM -0800, Ian Thomas > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > I have a copy of Debian 2.1 Slink that I am > trying > > to install to a second harddrive. > > > > I just recently found out on a website that > cfdisk > > cannot create extended partitions. I attempted to > do > > this when I was installing by changing the > partition > > type to extended, but when it wrote the table it > still > > had them listed as linux native. This is what I > want > > to do.. > > > > hdb1 (this is already my freebsd swap partition) > > hdb2 /boot (this will be a primary partition) > > hdb3 (extended partition containing logical > slices) > > hdb5 / > > hdb6 /var > > hdb7 /tmp > > hdb8 /home > > hdb9 /usr > > > > My swap space will go on my third drive. I > > thought about just doing Alt-Ctrl-F2 to get a > prompt, > > run fdisk and create the partition table that way, > > then continue with the curses based install. Is > that > > correct? Also I have read that linux cannot boot > from > > an extended partition, is this true? If not I can > put > > all of the slices in one exteneded partition. If > I am > > using the wrong terminology it is because I have > only > > really used BSD's and am used to disklabel. > > There are several HOWTOs addressing partitioning > issues, including some > thoughts on arranging partitions across one or more > disks for optimal > performance (unless you're doing high-end processing > you'll likely not > notice). > > I've compiled my own notes at > > > http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/partition.html > > ...regarding suggested sizes. > > Your thoughts on switching to a shell during the > install process and > creating your partitions is a good method. I > believe recent Debian > installs also provide the option to run a > partitioning utility during > the installation process. > > -- > Karsten M. Self > http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ > What part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? > There is no K5 cabal > http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ > http://www.kuro5hin.org > > ATTACHMENT part 2 application/pgp-signature __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Setting Up Partitions
I have a copy of Debian 2.1 Slink that I am trying to install to a second harddrive. I just recently found out on a website that cfdisk cannot create extended partitions. I attempted to do this when I was installing by changing the partition type to extended, but when it wrote the table it still had them listed as linux native. This is what I want to do.. hdb1 (this is already my freebsd swap partition) hdb2 /boot (this will be a primary partition) hdb3 (extended partition containing logical slices) hdb5 / hdb6 /var hdb7 /tmp hdb8 /home hdb9 /usr My swap space will go on my third drive. I thought about just doing Alt-Ctrl-F2 to get a prompt, run fdisk and create the partition table that way, then continue with the curses based install. Is that correct? Also I have read that linux cannot boot from an extended partition, is this true? If not I can put all of the slices in one exteneded partition. If I am using the wrong terminology it is because I have only really used BSD's and am used to disklabel. Thanks in advance Ian __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
