Re: Strange chars in GNOME help files Debian Etch / Gnome 2.12
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joost Kraaijeveld wrote: Hi, When I open my Gnome Help files I get these strange chars: squares with numbers like 20 (on the first line) and 02, 03,15 etc (on the second line) in them. I assume that these are Unicode chars, not being displayed properly. How do I get those characters diplayed properly? TIA The following website contains excellent instructions on which font sets to install in order to display these characters correctly: http://wiki.splitbrain.org/debianfonts Hope that helps James Caldow -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEAtmFWBULbbEEzSQRAiw9AJ9FipPxTQ5njjY4ZU67ob4hcNG6QACfaez7 cJAG/I87SepyXxX8yEfx4ck= =YZJn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: recipe program
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Also not in the repositories, but a worthy program to look at if you use KDE, is Krecipes http://krecipes.sourceforge.net/ James Caldow Rodney Richison wrote: Is there not a recipe program in the debian repositories. Trying to get wife hooked. :) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFD81POWBULbbEEzSQRAh5UAKCGMylWDH2u7dGTSfuOZrb7yZu7ygCZAd3A upIJ/O3iD5G6AAycjgd7pjg= =lYjF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: source for downloadable music?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wackojacko wrote: Matthew Lenz wrote: www.emusic.com no drm. not going to have every last song you'll want but they ahve a decent selection. or did last time I looked -Matt - Original Message - From: Ross Boylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: Ross Boylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:17 AM Subject: source for downloadable music? I want to make a CD of songs for my daughter's birthday party. Is there a site that has a good selection of songs that will work with Linux? I'm willing to pay for the songs. Yahoo has a music site but it seems to require software that they say only works on XP (though I'm willing to try wine, if it worked). My vague understanding of Apple's iTunes are that they tend to produce stuff that's locked to a specific piece of hardware; I'm not sure if it's OS specific. Any suggestions? Ross Boylan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] I use allofmp3.com. Russian site (click button in top left corner for english) and you pay based on the size of the file downloaded not per song. Supports various different formats too. Not to be overly alarmist, but have you checked the card processing section of allofmp3.com? I took a look at the section in their help which deals with payments. They list a question along the lines of, I am concerned about my online security. They point you to ASSIST who deal with their card processing. After clicking on the displayed THAWTE certificate on the ASSIST site all I get is an invalid certificate notice! Given the VERY low cost of their downloads and the fact that they have an invalid THAWTE certificate, I would be extremely cautious about using their site. FWIW James Caldow HTH Wackojacko -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFD7OeSWBULbbEEzSQRAiktAKC81DxMe2svCaS/WHXLfP0yDwawvwCfaGqV R26CEcaTgwb1gnrpEjkUmfs= =DrJd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SOLVED! was Re: PC Slowdowns and Lock-ups
Many thanks to all who responded to my initial post. I have finally tracked the problem down to a dying hard drive. I had various bad blocks developing which, though not enough to stop the computer altogether, were more than enough to slow the system to a standstill on more than one occasion! One to chalk up to experience I guess! Once again thanks to all who offered constructive help on this topic. James Caldow James Caldow wrote: Hi All, I am running Debian Sarge on my work PC and over the past couple of weeks I have noticed it getting slower and slower. The PC had been running very well for months previously using both Sarge and Sid. It is by no means a high spec computer, (Athlon 900MHz, 512Mb PC133 SDRAM, 80Gb Hard Drive, ATI Radeon 9250 128Mb Graphics Card), but as I say it has been running well for months now. The problems begin as soon as I am logged into the system. The cursor will move very, very slowly, if at all. If I manage to open an application there is a good chance it will lock-up the computer completely. If not, I have to either use extreme patience and SLOWLY drag the cursor to the quit button, (which can take many minutes) or use ALT+F4. The slowdowns and lock-ups appear completely random and I can go for hours or sometimes days without any occurring, though I spent three days last week when the PC was completely unusable due to the slowness. I suspect it may have more to do with Hardware than the OS as I have also run Knoppix on it out of curiosity. It was equally slow. If anyone has any ideas or suggestions I would be very grateful. James Caldow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PC Slowdowns and Lock-ups
Hi, I have attached the output from top in case it is useful. I don't know how useful this will be though as it is from a time when the PC is almost behaving. When it stops behaving I don't have enough control over it to be able to run top! Steven Wheelwright wrote: On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 04:45:52PM +, James Caldow wrote: It is by no means a high spec computer, (Athlon 900MHz, 512Mb PC133 SDRAM, 80Gb Hard Drive, ATI Radeon 9250 128Mb Graphics Card), but as I say it has been running well for months now. I am no expert on hardware failures, but you may consider cleaning the dust out of your case. Try running the computer for a while with the case open and see if the fans on the graphics card and CPU are spinning. Hi Steven. This was amongst the first things that I did. The PC has been opened, stripped, and cleaned thoroughly. The case has been left open for the past three days or so, during which the PC has been mostly usable. It still suffers from the occasional lag and lock-up. All fans are turning merrily in the case. I have a background in network and pc support, so I know my way around the inside of the PC, but I can't see anything which is obviously worn or damaged. I suspect it may have more to do with Hardware than the OS as I have also run Knoppix on it out of curiosity. It was equally slow. Good idea. It does sound like a hardware problem. You didn't do any major software changes, though, did you? I have never tried them, but I know that there are many programs that can diagnose hardware problems or at least make the hardware work extremely hard and fail if it is defective. Some words to search are memtest or mem86 and GIMPS (Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search) torture test. Thanks for the advice. I hadn't thought of running memtest. It would be typical if it turned out to be something as simple as faulty memory! The problems begin as soon as I am logged into the system. The cursor will move very, very slowly, if at all. This sounds like a graphics card problem. Try turning off X and doing something non-graphics intensive like compiling a kernel or running a torture test for GIMPS. Again a great idea. It certainly seems to have less of a problem when I boot into a recovery mode console. I will try as you suggest and see what comes of it. Many thanks for the great suggestions Good luck. top - 09:52:14 up 36 min, 3 users, load average: 0.97, 0.32, 0.14 Tasks: 79 total, 1 running, 78 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 4.7% us, 1.3% sy, 0.0% ni, 94.0% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si Mem:516400k total, 342456k used, 173944k free,20084k buffers Swap: 746980k total,0k used, 746980k free, 176940k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 3419 root 15 0 47352 31m 23m S 3.6 6.3 0:42.63 XFree86 3795 jcaldow 15 0 30320 13m 17m S 1.7 2.7 0:07.69 gnome-terminal 3802 root 16 0 2064 1060 1852 R 0.7 0.2 0:03.74 top 3687 jcaldow 15 0 24172 13m 21m S 0.3 2.7 0:01.39 gaim 3722 jcaldow 15 0 17784 8840 16m S 0.3 1.7 0:02.40 clock-applet 1 root 16 0 1504 512 1352 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.55 init 2 root 34 19 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0 3 root 5 -10 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 events/0 4 root 6 -10 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khelper 5 root 15 -10 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kacpid 36 root 5 -10 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.05 kblockd/0 46 root 20 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 pdflush 47 root 15 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 pdflush 49 root 5 -10 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/0 48 root 25 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kswapd0 185 root 25 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kseriod 291 root 15 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.13 kjournald 344 root 12 -4 1492 460 1336 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.09 udevd 1350 root 15 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.05 kjournald 1351 root 18 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kjournald 1702 root 15 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khubd 2649 root 19 0 2376 864 2164 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 dhclient 2654 daemon16 0 1612 460 1440 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 portmap 3134 root 16 0 2260 820 2092 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.02 syslogd 3137 root 16 0 2452 1476 1344 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.14 klogd 3148 messageb 16 0 2092 1004 1928 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.01 dbus-daemon-1 3153 hal 16 0 6368 4832 3020 S 0.0 0.9 0:01.41 hald 3171 root 16 0 2556 868 2120 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 dirmngr 3233 Debian-e 16 0 5140 1716 4764 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.00 exim4 3239 root 19 0 2240 724 2084 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 inetd 3243 lp18 0 2464 884 2272 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 lpd 3252 root 18 0
Re: PC Slowdowns and Lock-ups
Ok, I've just finished running memtest86 on the PC and it has returned no errors. The next suspect is the graphics card. Are there any tests that can show faulty graphics memory or do I need to buy another card to find out? James Caldow James Caldow wrote: Hi, I have attached the output from top in case it is useful. I don't know how useful this will be though as it is from a time when the PC is almost behaving. When it stops behaving I don't have enough control over it to be able to run top! Steven Wheelwright wrote: On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 04:45:52PM +, James Caldow wrote: It is by no means a high spec computer, (Athlon 900MHz, 512Mb PC133 SDRAM, 80Gb Hard Drive, ATI Radeon 9250 128Mb Graphics Card), but as I say it has been running well for months now. I am no expert on hardware failures, but you may consider cleaning the dust out of your case. Try running the computer for a while with the case open and see if the fans on the graphics card and CPU are spinning. Hi Steven. This was amongst the first things that I did. The PC has been opened, stripped, and cleaned thoroughly. The case has been left open for the past three days or so, during which the PC has been mostly usable. It still suffers from the occasional lag and lock-up. All fans are turning merrily in the case. I have a background in network and pc support, so I know my way around the inside of the PC, but I can't see anything which is obviously worn or damaged. I suspect it may have more to do with Hardware than the OS as I have also run Knoppix on it out of curiosity. It was equally slow. Good idea. It does sound like a hardware problem. You didn't do any major software changes, though, did you? I have never tried them, but I know that there are many programs that can diagnose hardware problems or at least make the hardware work extremely hard and fail if it is defective. Some words to search are memtest or mem86 and GIMPS (Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search) torture test. Thanks for the advice. I hadn't thought of running memtest. It would be typical if it turned out to be something as simple as faulty memory! The problems begin as soon as I am logged into the system. The cursor will move very, very slowly, if at all. This sounds like a graphics card problem. Try turning off X and doing something non-graphics intensive like compiling a kernel or running a torture test for GIMPS. Again a great idea. It certainly seems to have less of a problem when I boot into a recovery mode console. I will try as you suggest and see what comes of it. Many thanks for the great suggestions Good luck. top - 09:52:14 up 36 min, 3 users, load average: 0.97, 0.32, 0.14 Tasks: 79 total, 1 running, 78 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 4.7% us, 1.3% sy, 0.0% ni, 94.0% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si Mem:516400k total, 342456k used, 173944k free,20084k buffers Swap: 746980k total,0k used, 746980k free, 176940k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 3419 root 15 0 47352 31m 23m S 3.6 6.3 0:42.63 XFree86 3795 jcaldow 15 0 30320 13m 17m S 1.7 2.7 0:07.69 gnome-terminal 3802 root 16 0 2064 1060 1852 R 0.7 0.2 0:03.74 top 3687 jcaldow 15 0 24172 13m 21m S 0.3 2.7 0:01.39 gaim 3722 jcaldow 15 0 17784 8840 16m S 0.3 1.7 0:02.40 clock-applet 1 root 16 0 1504 512 1352 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.55 init 2 root 34 19 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0 3 root 5 -10 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 events/0 4 root 6 -10 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khelper 5 root 15 -10 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kacpid 36 root 5 -10 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.05 kblockd/0 46 root 20 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 pdflush 47 root 15 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.02 pdflush 49 root 5 -10 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/0 48 root 25 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kswapd0 185 root 25 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kseriod 291 root 15 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.13 kjournald 344 root 12 -4 1492 460 1336 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.09 udevd 1350 root 15 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.05 kjournald 1351 root 18 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kjournald 1702 root 15 0 000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khubd 2649 root 19 0 2376 864 2164 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 dhclient 2654 daemon16 0 1612 460 1440 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 portmap 3134 root 16 0 2260 820 2092 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.02 syslogd 3137 root 16 0 2452 1476 1344 S 0.0 0.3 0:00.14 klogd 3148 messageb 16 0 2092 1004 1928 S 0.0
PC Slowdowns and Lock-ups
Hi All, I am running Debian Sarge on my work PC and over the past couple of weeks I have noticed it getting slower and slower. The PC had been running very well for months previously using both Sarge and Sid. It is by no means a high spec computer, (Athlon 900MHz, 512Mb PC133 SDRAM, 80Gb Hard Drive, ATI Radeon 9250 128Mb Graphics Card), but as I say it has been running well for months now. The problems begin as soon as I am logged into the system. The cursor will move very, very slowly, if at all. If I manage to open an application there is a good chance it will lock-up the computer completely. If not, I have to either use extreme patience and SLOWLY drag the cursor to the quit button, (which can take many minutes) or use ALT+F4. The slowdowns and lock-ups appear completely random and I can go for hours or sometimes days without any occurring, though I spent three days last week when the PC was completely unusable due to the slowness. I suspect it may have more to do with Hardware than the OS as I have also run Knoppix on it out of curiosity. It was equally slow. If anyone has any ideas or suggestions I would be very grateful. James Caldow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A page that causes Firefox (Sarge) to close
Hi James, I am running on Debian Sid and the page you have indicated crashes my Firefox as well. Very strange! James Caldow James Foster wrote: Hello, I'm using the latest mozilla-firefox (1.0.4-2sarge5) on Debian Sarge, and whenever I attempt to visit a particular page, I'm finding that it closes immediately. Can someone please confirm this behaviour? The page is: http://www.movieweb.com/forums/viewtopic.php%3Ft%3D6036e=9797 Thanks, James Foster . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PCMCIA Wireless Card startup problems under Debian Sid
Hello, This is my first posting to the list so apologies in advance if this has already been asked. I have been a linux user for 4 years now and have tried all the major distros at some point (Mandrake, Red Hat, Fedora, SuSe, etc). I recently decided I was ready to move onto the supposedly more difficult to install Debian. My first install of Sarge went painlessly and worked beautifully straight away. Everything was detected pretty well, and apart from a few tweaks to my XFree86-config file to get the synaptics touchpad working to my liking I had nothing difficult or arcane to do. I was happy like this for a while and was loving everything about Debian. Then I began to get adventurous. I wanted to see what I was missing with Debian Sid. I liked the idea of more up to date software and a more current development environment to play with. Using a Sarge net-install disc I set about the install process again and using the expert options I selected the unstable sources. After flying through all of the initial setup tasksel choked on the desktop environment task. It would complain incessantly about unmet dependencies with the Openoffice.org-kde package. Not a problem, I simply did apt-get install gnome openoffice.org kde and off it went. Everything installed perfectly and after installing a few other bits and bobs, (xserver-xorg etc) I was into a perfect desktop environment. Everything was lovely and I was very happy. The laptop's monitor worked beautifully, Syanptics touchpad was working perfectly, and my Wireless connection was up and running. The problem started after a reboot. When the laptop rebooted the Wireless card powered on but wouldn't connect. Once logged in I had to manually do ifup eth1 as root to get connected. Not a huge deal, but annoying enough if you have to do it after every reboot! I searched through google looking for an answer but couldn't find anything specific enough. My suspicion is that it has something to do with udev, since the card worked flawlessly under Sarge. I have tried removing the pcmcia-cs package after seeing something on google about this package being obsolete in conjunction with udev, but that just killed the card all together. Can anyone advise me what I have done wrong? I am at a loss as to how the new udev replaces hotplug, or how it interacts with the hardware. Is there a straight forward fix available? My hardware is as follows: HP Pavilion ZT1125 Laptop + Enterasys Roamabout (Re-badged Orinoco Gold) PCMCIA Wireless Card. Any help would be greatly appreciated and apologies for the long winded email. James Caldow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCMCIA Wireless Card startup problems under Debian Sid
Jochen Schulz wrote: James Caldow: I was happy like this for a while and was loving everything about Debian. Then I began to get adventurous. I wanted to see what I was missing with Debian Sid. I liked the idea of more up to date software and a more current development environment to play with. If you plan to stay with sid, please install apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges. They can display bugreports, changelogs and news items when installing or upgrading packages. lecture mode=curtain Please note that using sid sometimes requires you to work around minor or major problems yourself. By using sid you implicitly agree not to whine about broken software and to report problems to the bts (bugs.debian.org). Whilst I appreciate that you have specified that you are in lecture mode I would also point out that at no point in my email have I whined about the software being broken. I encountered a problem that I could not resolve by myself or by searching, and instead of whining about it I came here to ask for help. That also means that you are expected to fix a lot of things yourself, at least on your own system. If you have been reading this list for some time, you might have noticed some hostility towards (obvious) newbies using sid when they are seeking help for trivial problems. As I said in my email I am not exactly a newbie, nor do I claim to know everything. I am simply looking for a solution and had hoped that someone could help. I have used various open-source mailing lists in the past and continue to do so. I regularly use the mailing lists for Opie, Familiar, and GPE (Linux on Ipaqs) which can hardly be described as pedestrian or straightforward. At no time during my membership there have I been told that a problem was trivial, or that I shouldn't be asking a question in the first place. That said, nobody expects you to know everything, but you should know some basic Debian documentation (See http://debian.org/doc for the FAQ and Reference) and you should follow news and announcements because some of them directly affect sid. The mailing lists debian-announce, debian-devel-announce and debian-news might be of interest. Even if you don't understand everything (esp. in d-d-a), you get a good impression of how the project works and you will be warned in advance when sid is undergoing significant changes. /lecture Thank you for the advice. In fact I did read through all the documentation available at Debian.org prior to even installing Sarge. That was what convinced me to give it a go. I liked what Debian stood for and what it had to offer. I will also give the lists you mention a look. Using a Sarge net-install disc I set about the install process again Of course it is too late now, but: except for downgrades or totally hosed systems, there is no need to reinstall. Upgrading to sid or etch is as easy as adding the appropriate lines to your sources.list and 'aptitude dist-upgrade'. If only it were that simple. I had been trying to avoid my original email becoming too long, but prior to installing in the manner described above I had tried to apt-get dist-upgrade two seperate machines from Sarge to Sid. In both cases it choked on things like udev, dpkg, etc. I found plenty of info on workarounds for these issues by googling but they were all incredibly brute force workarounds to my way of thinking and I simply wanted to try installing the system cleanly using Sid sources from the start. As I said, I have installed various linux distributions over the years, and feel comfortable enough with the whole process that a clean install doesn't phase me too much. I wish that the apt-get dist-upgrade had worked as it is supposed to, but I wasn't too surprised when it didn't as we are talking about a fairly major change going from Sarge to Sid. and using the expert options I selected the unstable sources. After flying through all of the initial setup tasksel choked on the desktop environment task. It would complain incessantly about unmet dependencies with the Openoffice.org-kde package. That may be related to the current transition to OpenOffice.org 2.0 in sid. Many of the older extra packages for OOo aren't necessary anymore, but probably the tasks (which were designed for sarge) haven't been updated. Again, that's pretty much what I expected. Going down the Sid route I wasn't expecting to be held by the hand and allowed to use things like tasksel without a hitch. The problem started after a reboot. When the laptop rebooted the Wireless card powered on but wouldn't connect. Once logged in I had to manually do ifup eth1 as root to get connected. Not a huge deal, but annoying enough if you have to do it after every reboot! If all you need is to ifup the device, you are probably just missing an 'auto ethX' line in your /etc/network/interfaces. man 5 interfaces. And now the crux of the question. When I get home I will try what you suggest and I
Re: PCMCIA Wireless Card startup problems under Debian Sid
Dear Ed Many thanks for your reply. I only signed up for the lists today and have missed the thread that you refer to. Your reply has fixed the problem for me perfectly! After adding the entries you mention the laptop now starts the wireless card perfectly. I am ecstatic :-) As for your issues, I don't want to risk asking the obvious but have you made sure that ACPI and/or APM packages are installed on your system? I haven't experienced any shutdown or battery issues with Debian, but I do know that in some of the older distros ACPI/APM weren't always installed by default and this caused the problems you mention. Just a thought :-) === Jochen, Once again I want to apologise for over-reacting to your email. After re-reading your original email I can see that it wasn't meant as offensively as I first thought. I'm sorry that I thought you were trying to be offensive. I was in the middle of a four hour session of trying to understand why Evolution had decided to stop showing all 194 contacts in my address book!!! Four hours later I was still none the wiser, and my sense of humour was well and truly absent. :-( I will endeavour not to take any future emails quite so personally, unless they are meant that way ;-) Ed Lawson wrote: On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 13:20:13 + James Caldow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem started after a reboot. When the laptop rebooted the Wireless card powered on but wouldn't connect. Once logged in I had to manually do ifup eth1 as root to get connected. Not a huge deal, but annoying enough if you have to do it after every reboot! There is a thread about this from a couple of days ago. Basically you need to edit two lines in the file /etc/pcmica/network.opts Go to end of the file to the lines which start with : start_fn and stop_fn replace the word return with ifup $1; and ifdown $1; as appropriate and then the networking with the wireless card will be brought up automatically. I went through the same issues with SID and you need to take care to watch what an upgrade will do. Generally it manages to be a useful desktop system with up to date stuff. right now I am trying to sort out why my laptop will no longer powers down automatically at shutdown and the battery monitor no longer works after a recent upgrade. so you are not alone. Ed Lawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
