FYI: Branden's Response to DPL Platform Question

2004-02-29 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I asked Branden Robinson a question about his DPL platform, and got a 
pretty good response, so I thought I'd post it here.

Question:

While I am in no 'official' position to request this (I'm just a random 
interested user), I'd really appreciate you guys including some stuff 
about the current release cycle, the ongoing delays in releasing Sarge, 
and possible ideas on how to improve the situation in future releases.

Reply:

I do mention the issue in my platform, but I have no specific
recommendations to make at this time.  If elected, I will work with
Anthony Towns, Colin Watson, and Steve Langasek as best I can to
identify the problems they perceive, and collaboratively come up with
solutions.
There are several hard problems that work together to make releasing
Debian difficult.  Also, the rewrite of our installer technology has put
a unique load on this release cycle.
It's worth reviewing Anthony's mail to debian-devel-announce in
December, and Colin's last week, to get an idea of some of the
challenges they've had to face.  The fact that approximately 6% of our
archive fails to meet bare minimum expectations leads me to believe that
we may want to inaugurate a special process for orphaning such packages.
Feel free to repost this reply publicly.

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Re: New paradigm for Linux distributions?

2004-02-29 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
David Clymer wrote:
On Sat, 2004-02-28 at 15:50, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:

I posted a small article on a possible future for Linux distributions: 
http://ballsome.com

Thoughts?



Perhaps I'm just dense, but what's new here? To me, Ian's "plan" sounds
like a fairly good description of debian with "lets all use the same
package format" thrown in (another old idea). How is debian NOT
componentized? Doesn't debian already have a repository of packages
based on apt? Doesnt debian already support the installation of a "core"
system, and then allow one to download any specific components/software
one needs?
I'm not saying that any of this is a bad idea, but why start another
project when one can get the same thing by just using debian?
Perhaps others can tell me what it is about these concepts that I'm
missing.
Well, I guess the difference here (in my idea, anyway) is that the main 
repository wouldn't be under the control of a single distribution. It'd 
be a central repository used by all participating distributions.

Currently, Debian's repository is just that - Debian's repository. Yeah, 
it's very large, and very open to others, but it's still Debian's. I 
guess if you consider Debian's as "the world's", then we're already there.

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New paradigm for Linux distributions?

2004-02-28 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I posted a small article on a possible future for Linux distributions: 
http://ballsome.com

Thoughts?

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Gnome Mixer 1.4 Problems

2004-02-24 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I'm using Gnome 1.4 on Debian 3.0r2 with OSS sound. I use Gnome Mixer to 
set my system volume to very low, but whenever I reboot, it magically 
goes right back to (almost) full. It's almost like it's being told to go 
back to some saved position that's at an 80% mark or something. Note 
that when I log out of Gnome and then right back in, my personal volume 
setting is preserved.

I do have esd start with Gnome, and I don't have "Restore mixer levels 
of Gnome Mixer" checked in either Gnome Control Panel or Gnome Mixer 
Preferences. In fact, when I do check these, it resets the volume on a 
logout/login as well as a reboot.

So I'm thinking there's some kind of default setting that's getting 
applied during system startup, but I can't imagine what it would be.

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Upating Wine on Woody?

2004-02-24 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Roberto Sanchez wrote:
Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:

What do you guys suggest I do to get a new version of wine for Woody? 
Download the source and compile it myself? Use 'alien' on the latest 
Red Hat packages? Get a backport from apt-get.org? Build my own package?


Personally, I would add a deb-src line for unstable, get the
source package, and build the .debs myself.
$ apt-get source wine
$ cd wine-
$ dpkg-buildpackage# this is in dpkg-dev
$ cd ..
$ sudo dpkg -i *.deb
Yeah, I tried that, but it has lots of build-depends on things that 
aren't in Woody (XFree86 4.2, for example). I don't want to upgrade my 
XFree86 just to build a wine deb.

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Upating Wine on Woody?

2004-02-24 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
What do you guys suggest I do to get a new version of wine for Woody? 
Download the source and compile it myself? Use 'alien' on the latest Red 
Hat packages? Get a backport from apt-get.org? Build my own package?

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Preserving changes to resolv.conf?

2004-02-22 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I made some changes to /etc/resolv.conf, but after a reboot, it's back 
to its old self. Specifically, I changed the nameserver lines to 
something other than what DHCP (I presume) set them to.

How do I tell the system that I set my own nameserver lines, and don't 
want them overwritten?

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Re: DVD copying and CSS

2004-02-22 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
With the recent injunction granted against 321 Studios for their DVD X 
Copy software for copying DVDs, I've been wondering something. Why is it 
necessary to break CSS encryption to make a copy? Could you not make a 
bit-for-bit copy of the DVD and have the contents still be encrypted on 
the new medium? I mean, copying an mp3 file from one cd to another 
doesn't require you to decode it first.
The answers I've gotten so far indicate that it's just a limitation in 
DVD-Rs (Pre-written CSS sectors, size limitations, etc). So what's to 
stop another company from producing "real" DVD-R media? I doubt the DVD 
Consortium would approve them, so they'd have to call them DVBs (digital 
video backups) or something, but still.

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Taking a module from another kernel?

2004-02-21 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Is it possible to compile a single module from a later kernel source for 
my current kernel?

I'm using the stock Debian kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686, but the driver for 
my sound card only works in 2.4.20 and later. I want to keep running the 
Debian one for the stability and the security updates, though. Is there 
some way to take i810_audio.c from the 2.4.20 kernel sources and compile 
it for my 2.4.18? It doesn't seem like it would be all that different 
from other third-party modules (like NVIDIA's), except that I don't have 
a Makefile ready.

Any tips?

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DVD copying and CSS

2004-02-21 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
With the recent injunction granted against 321 Studios for their DVD X 
Copy software for copying DVDs, I've been wondering something. Why is it 
necessary to break CSS encryption to make a copy? Could you not make a 
bit-for-bit copy of the DVD and have the contents still be encrypted on 
the new medium? I mean, copying an mp3 file from one cd to another 
doesn't require you to decode it first.

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fsck needed with ext3?

2004-02-17 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
For some reason I had thought that fsck wasn't needed if I was running 
ext3. I installed Woody using ext3 for my main partition, but still, 
every 32nd boot, the system runs fsck.

Is there some setting I'm missing that tells it that I'm running ext3 
and don't need fsck?

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Re: Disable plugins in Mozilla?

2004-02-16 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Keith Willoughby wrote:
Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:  


Is it possible to disable a specific plugin (like Flash) in Mozilla
without physically removing the files from the plugins directory (or
renaming them)?


If you only have a problem with Flash, then Flash Click To View is ideal

http://ted.mielczarek.org/code/mozilla/

Yeah, my problem's just Flash. It seems to freeze Galeon (and presumably 
Mozilla) whenever it tries to load an animation. I also noticed that the 
flash plugin from Macromedia says Moz 1.1 and above...

Anyone know where to get a Flash plugin for 1.0?

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Disable plugins in Mozilla?

2004-02-15 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Is it possible to disable a specific plugin (like Flash) in Mozilla 
without physically removing the files from the plugins directory (or 
renaming them)?

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Re: Sound help?

2004-02-14 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
My mind is somewhat boggled when it comes to getting sound support 
working on my machine. I have a Dell laptop with Woody using a 
self-compiled 2.4.24 kernel. I have i810_audio.o and sound.o explicitly 
loaded, with all their respective dependencies.


Sorry to reply to my own message...


esd loads automatically with Gnome. Using XMMS' eSound plugin, 
everything works great. After I kill esd, XMMS' OSS plugin works great 
as well.

But there's two problems that I'm trying to figure out:

1. Gnome's mixer applet doesn't work. Sure, it loads fine, and displays 
a volume slider, but changing it has no effect whatsoever. The mute 
button doesn't work either. This is with and without esd running.


Ignore this. Gnome's mixer applet controls the volume of the console 
beeps through the sound card just fine. I guess XMMS doesn't pay 
attention to the system mixer setting.


2. Sound in Enemy Territory doesn't work. The console messages when the 
game loads say "sound system is muted", even though the mixer applet is 
not muted, and XMMS works fine. The game complains about /dev/dsp when I 
have esd running, so I kill esd before I run the game.


This complaint is still good. Anybody know why it says "sound system is 
muted"?


Any advice, please?


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Sound help?

2004-02-14 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
My mind is somewhat boggled when it comes to getting sound support 
working on my machine. I have a Dell laptop with Woody using a 
self-compiled 2.4.24 kernel. I have i810_audio.o and sound.o explicitly 
loaded, with all their respective dependencies.

esd loads automatically with Gnome. Using XMMS' eSound plugin, 
everything works great. After I kill esd, XMMS' OSS plugin works great 
as well.

But there's two problems that I'm trying to figure out:

1. Gnome's mixer applet doesn't work. Sure, it loads fine, and displays 
a volume slider, but changing it has no effect whatsoever. The mute 
button doesn't work either. This is with and without esd running.

2. Sound in Enemy Territory doesn't work. The console messages when the 
game loads say "sound system is muted", even though the mixer applet is 
not muted, and XMMS works fine. The game complains about /dev/dsp when I 
have esd running, so I kill esd before I run the game.

Any advice, please?

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Kernel compilation woes

2004-02-07 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I'm trying to compile my own 2.4.24 kernel using the sources from 
kernel.org and the .config from Sarge, and I'm getting some errors:

# make-kpkg kernel_image



if [ -r System.map ]; then /sbin/depmod -ae -F System.map -b 
/usr/src/linux-2.4.
24/debian/tmp-image -r 2.4.24; fi
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/usr/src/linux-2.4.24/debian/tmp-image/lib/mod
ules/2.4.24/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-core.o
depmod: 	init_cmd640_vlb
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/usr/src/linux-2.4.24/debian/tmp-image/lib/mod
ules/2.4.24/kernel/drivers/net/wan/comx.o
depmod: 	proc_get_inode
make[2]: *** [_modinst_post] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.24'
make[1]: *** [real_stamp_image] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.24'
#

Anyone have any idea what could cause something like this?

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Re: Audio Advice

2004-02-07 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Andreas Janssen wrote:
Hello

Joel Konkle-Parker (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:


Loevborg wrote:

You could also use a "backported" kernel-image from www.backport.org
That would save you the trouble of compilation and would still be
quite clean.
Yeah, that's what I tried first, but the OSS modules didn't really
work too well (esound wouldn't start, any sound through /dev/dsp came
out sped up and at a higher pitch).


This is maybe a problem with the sampling rate. Perhaps you can tell esd
to set it to 48000 kHz.
I can't run esd. When I start it up, it says it can't find any 
compatible sample rates/bit rates and exits. Even 16bit/44100Hz is 
listed as "unavailable".

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Re: Audio Advice

2004-02-06 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Loevborg wrote:
You could also use a "backported" kernel-image from www.backport.org
That would save you the trouble of compilation and would still be quite
clean.
Yeah, that's what I tried first, but the OSS modules didn't really work 
too well (esound wouldn't start, any sound through /dev/dsp came out 
sped up and at a higher pitch).

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Audio Advice

2004-02-05 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I've got an integrated AC'97 audio chip in my laptop that uses the 
i810_audio kernel driver or ALSA's snd-intel8x0 driver.

The problem is that Woody's latest kernel (2.4.18) is too old to support 
my particular audio chip (first supported in 2.4.20).

So I've got three options, I believe:

1. Build myself a new 2.4.2x kernel.

2. Install Woody's alsa packages and compile a corresponding module 
version for my 2.4.18 kernel.

3. Build myself a new ALSA system.

Any advice on what would be the cleanest solution here?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: x-ttcidfont-conf help?

2004-02-05 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Rob Weir wrote:
On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 07:01:49PM -0600, Joel Konkle-Parker said

When I installed Woody, defoma and x-ttcidfont-conf were installed along 
with it. I assume from what I've read that x-ttcidfont-conf is designed 
to control my TrueType fonts, rather than X itself.

Well, that's all fine and good, but x-ttcidfont-conf doesn't seem to be 
able to find my fonts. I've installed msttcorefonts to get Arial, 
Verdana, and a few others, and they show up in /usr/share/fonts and 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType, but not in 
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType, as I assume they should.

I've gone ahead and replaced my XFS source lines with the above 


You don't need to use XFS unless you're actually sharing fonts across
the network.

x-ttcidfont-conf alternative, like debconf suggested, and I've 
reconfigured both x-ttcidfont-conf and msttcorefonts, but to no avail.


Have you added /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType and
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType as FontPath entries in
/etc/X11/XF86Config-4?  You should only have to do the latter, but
perhaps something is buggy.  Also, make sure you use "xfontsel" or
"xlsfonts" or similar to see if the fonts appear, not kcontrol or such.
Yeah, I'm starting to think I should ditch XFS...

But that doesn't fix my problem. I can look at 
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType in my file manager, and 
the folder is empty, even after the reconfigurations and such I've done 
before. /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType actually includes my fonts, so 
that's what I have in my XF86Config-4 at the moment.

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Re: Alternative to VMware?

2004-02-03 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Massimiliano wrote:
Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:

I really want to get a copy of VMware, but I don't have $140 for the 
student version. So I'm looking for alternatives. I just want some 
kind of sandbox where I can test out new software, distros, etc, 
without rebooting into a seperate partition.


To try some distros you can use user-mode-linux
Doesn't the guest OS's kernel need to be modified to work with uml? 
Also, you can't test livecds and installation routines and such with 
uml, can you?

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x-ttcidfont-conf help?

2004-02-02 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
When I installed Woody, defoma and x-ttcidfont-conf were installed along 
with it. I assume from what I've read that x-ttcidfont-conf is designed 
to control my TrueType fonts, rather than X itself.

Well, that's all fine and good, but x-ttcidfont-conf doesn't seem to be 
able to find my fonts. I've installed msttcorefonts to get Arial, 
Verdana, and a few others, and they show up in /usr/share/fonts and 
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType, but not in 
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType, as I assume they should.

I've gone ahead and replaced my XFS source lines with the above 
x-ttcidfont-conf alternative, like debconf suggested, and I've 
reconfigured both x-ttcidfont-conf and msttcorefonts, but to no avail.

How is this stuff supposed to work?

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Re: Alternative to VMware?

2004-02-02 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Robert L. Harris wrote:
Have you looked at bochs?

http://bochs.sourceforge.net/
I've messed around with 1.4pre2 with Woody, but didn't get very far. 
I've heard it's too slow to do anything with anyway.

I guess I could grab 2.1 and give it a shot.

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Alternative to VMware?

2004-02-02 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I really want to get a copy of VMware, but I don't have $140 for the 
student version. So I'm looking for alternatives. I just want some kind 
of sandbox where I can test out new software, distros, etc, without 
rebooting into a seperate partition.

What do other people use?

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plex86

2004-02-01 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
According to unstable's plex86 page 
<http://packages.debian.org/unstable/misc/plex86>, it has been 
superceded by bochs. But I thought plex86 was a virtual machine and 
bochs was an emulator. Isn't there a big difference?

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Controlling size of printed text?

2004-01-31 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I'm trying to print a text HTML file from Galeon, and the size of the 
printed text is much too big.

I printed the same document yesterday, and the final size was 29 pages. 
Today, I try again, and the size of the text on the page has nearly 
doubled (55 pages). Altering the text size in the Galeon window has no 
effect on the printed output.

How do I control the size of the printed text on the page?

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Re: Esta

2004-01-30 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
My Mozilla (1.0.0, 3.0r2) always reacts badly to these kinds of messages 
(with the subject full of s), freezing up, running the cpu to 100% 
for 30 secs or so, leaking memory, etc.

Anyone have any advice?

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Adding GTK+ engines to /usr/local

2004-01-29 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I just installed the lighthouseblue GTK+ engine into /usr/local on 
3.0r2. I like to keep my own from-source installations in /usr/local 
instead of /usr, so they won't mix with my debs.

GTK+ doesn't seem to be able to find it, though. It's not coming up in 
my Theme Selector in GNOME. Is there a way to "tell" GTK+ about the 
engine in /usr/local?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Multimedia keys in Woody?

2004-01-25 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
sven kissner wrote:
Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:


What's the best way to get my keyboard's multimedia keys to work in Woody?

I've used Gnome 2.4's media keys applet, but is there something
available in 1.4 that can do the same thing?
 
you may take a look at lineak, but i don't know if it's in woody.. it's
independent and works with every de/wm.
Thanks for the responses. The Gnome 2.4 applet I was talking about was 
'acme' <http://www.hadess.net/misc-code.php3>. lineak isn't avail. in 
woody either.

Oh well, I'll try hotkeys and such.

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Multimedia keys in Woody?

2004-01-25 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
What's the best way to get my keyboard's multimedia keys to work in Woody?

I've used Gnome 2.4's media keys applet, but is there something 
available in 1.4 that can do the same thing?

Thanks in advance.

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Benefit of source packages?

2004-01-23 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I'm curious: what's the benefit of source packages? Do they allow you to 
optimize the package for your system like Gentoo does? Are there any 
other reasons why they're "better" than regular packages?

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Catches in upgrading to backports.org kernel?

2004-01-23 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I'm considering adding a 2.4.24 kernel from backports.org to my pure 
Woody system to get support for my multitude of peripherals and such.

Are there any catches that I should look out for before I go for it?

I noticed that this will also update my initrd package. Is this safe?

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Woody: Remembering Desktop Assignment?

2004-01-08 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Is it possible to make Gnome 1.4 / Sawfish on Woody "remember" which 
desktop an application is placed in? For example, when I download 
something in Galeon, it opens up gtm to manage it. I usually move that 
out of the way in desktop 4. But if it's not running already, it opens 
up in whichever desktop I'm currently in. Is it somehow possible to 
"assign" gtm to desktop 4?

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USB tv tuners?

2004-01-02 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I'm looking for a good USB tv tuner for my Woody box so I can use it to 
basically just watch TV on my computer, nothing too fancy.

Does anyone have any suggestions for something that works with Linux 
(preferably Woody out of the box)?



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Re: Mozilla fonts

2003-12-23 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Marc Wilson wrote:
On Tue, Dec 23, 2003 at 02:41:02PM -0600, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:

Under Preferences > Appearance > Fonts, everything is set to "Agfa 
Monotype-andale mono-iso8859-1" and Slashdot renders in full monospace.


Uhhh... Andale Mono *is* a monospace font.  Exactly what do you expect to
be happening here?
Sorry, the question was what the Mozilla default fonts should be set to. 
Mine were all set to the same thing (andale mono) because of versioning 
problems, and I wanted to know what Mozilla's defaults were.

I moved my .mozilla and started it up again, looked at the font 
configuration, then copied my .mozilla back and set the same options. 
Worked like a charm.

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Mozilla fonts

2003-12-23 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I think my fonts are screwed up in Mozilla 1.0.0...

Under Preferences > Appearance > Fonts, everything is set to "Agfa 
Monotype-andale mono-iso8859-1" and Slashdot renders in full monospace.

What does everyone else's fonts section have by default? I'm using 
Mozilla 1.0.0 from a .mozilla generated with 1.5, so that might have 
screwed things up on my end.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Java, mplayer

2003-12-05 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Quoting "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 at 18:00 GMT, Bijan Soleymani penned:
> > Joel Konkle-Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> >> I've dabbled in Gentoo for a little while, and they have a system
> >> that prompts for download of the j2re from Sun
> > 
> > I think this should be possible. But I'm no expert.
> > 
> 
> Doesn't debian do this for some MS fonts, too?

Couldn't tell ya. I can't see why this wouldn't work, though. Does it just need
someone to implement it?



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Re: Java, mplayer

2003-12-05 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Quoting Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> > > Joel Konkle-Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > 
> > >> I've dabbled in Gentoo for a little while, and they have a system
> > >> that prompts for download of the j2re from Sun
> 
> Isn't this what blackdown from apt-get.org does?  When I want to install

Well, that's another question. Why isn't blackdown in non-free? Why make users
search for unofficial packages for it?



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Re: Java, mplayer

2003-12-05 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Quoting Bijan Soleymani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Joel Konkle-Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Why can't Sun's j2re and mplayer be provided in non-free or contrib?
> > I've read various things about how their legal status is
> > incompatible with Debian's DFSG, but I thought that's what non-free
> > was for in the first place.
> 
> Things in non-free must be freely distributable in binary form. I
> don't think Sun's java allows that. I think it even puts restrictions
> on that.

Ok, I can understand that. But why must non-free distribute in binary form? I've
dabbled in Gentoo for a little while, and they have a system that prompts for
download of the j2re from Sun, then performs its own tasks on it. That would be
equivalent to the following:

--
# apt-get install sun-j2re
downloading... yada yada

This package requires Sun's j2re package to be downloaded seperately. Please
visit http://java.sun.com/whatever and place j2re.version.run into your current
working directory. Then re-run apt-get.

# *visit, agree to eula, download*

# apt-get install sun-j2re
*finds j2re.version.run, installs, makes menu items, configs, etc.*

#
--

This way, the only things being distributed are the configuration scripts.


> As for mplayer the thing with that is that mplayer in its natural
> state might contain certain patent or copyright violations, making it
> illegal to distribute it. Debian could remove those parts but then it
> would make mplayer useless. The developpers of mplayer have said that
> they don't want people to distribute cut down versions of mplayer
> because people will laugh at the results ("what do you mean this
> player can't play .avi, real, or quicktime?").

This one makes a little more sense. Although what's different about this and
libdvdcss? We have a somewhat convulated process for installing libdvdcss with
ogle, but it works.


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Java, mplayer

2003-12-05 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I have no doubt this is a Big Fat FAQ, but I'd like to get some discussions on
it anyway:

Why can't Sun's  j2re and mplayer be provided in non-free or contrib? I've read
various things about how their legal status is incompatible with Debian's DFSG,
but I thought that's what non-free was for in the first place.

Thoughts?


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Multi-word Label in LILO

2003-12-05 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
For some reason, LILO in unstable doesn't seem to like multi-word Label lines.
They worked fine in woody's version, though. I tried:

Label=Debian 2.4.18
Label="Debian 2.4.18"
Label='Debian 2.4.18'

but it complained each time about spaces in the Label. The only way I could get
it to work was to put:

Label=Debian_2.4.18

What's the right way to do this?

(Or is there an overriding reason I should be using GRUB instead, besides the
run-lilo-after-changes bit?)


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Re: Periodic sluggishness in games

2003-11-11 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Ron Johnson wrote:
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 20:02, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 18:03, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:


I'm experiencing periodic sluggishness when I play 3d games like Unreal 
Tournament (natively) and Max Payne (WineX). It's not a framerate 
problem, because there's no choppiness, it's periodic (a minute of 
slowness, a couple minutes of normal, a couple of slow, et c.), and 
there's no apparent relation to the complexity of the action when it 
happens. The effect is as if the game itself is going into a slow-mo 
mode (yes, I know, Max Payne has a slow-mo mode, but that's not what's 
going on here).

I have a new Dell 5150 with an nVidia GeForce FX 5200 using the latest 
nVidia-supplied drivers. I don't have any apps running while I'm playing 
the games, save for Gnome and its applets and such.

Does anyone have any clue what could be the problem here?


Can you ssh in from another system, and run top(1) in P mode?
Maybe some intermittent process is jumping in.
Assuming that any such process would be running even when I'm not in a 
game, would simply watching top for a while work?


Oh, ok, I assumed (yeah, yeah, I know) that these were full-screen
games that would make that impossible.

Unfortunately I don't have another system to ssh from.

As a test, I tried playing UT from twm, with none of the Gnome stuff 
running. The same problem occurs. It appears to be kind of progressive: 
it's fine for a good while, then slows for a moment, then is fine for a 
shorter time, then slows, then fine, slows, fine, slows, et c.


Have you tried any other games, like tuxracer?


Just from sitting here watching top for a while, it appears my highest 
memory hog is Mozilla Mail checking for new messages, but that never 
gets above 4%. I've run the game without Mozilla in the background, with 
the same behavior.

I've never noticed this effect in Windows.


exim?  SpamAssassin?  PostgreSQL?

As a test, I closed all open apps, turned off apache and mysqld, and 
start up a round of Unreal Tournament. The problem continued, with 
alternating periods of normal speed and slow speed, with the periods of 
normal speed getting shorter as time went on.

The only syslog entries during this time period were:

--
Nov 11 23:26:38 Moe gnome-name-server[6073]: server_is_alive: 
cnx[IDL:GNOME/Terminal/TerminalFactory:1.0] = (nil)
Nov 11 23:26:38 Moe gnome-name-server[6074]: server_is_alive: 
cnx[IDL:GNOME/Terminal/TerminalFactory:1.0] = 0x80561c0
Nov 11 23:26:40 Moe gnome-name-server[6081]: server_is_alive: 
cnx[IDL:GNOME/Terminal/TerminalFactory:1.0] = (nil)
Nov 11 23:26:40 Moe gnome-name-server[6082]: server_is_alive: 
cnx[IDL:GNOME/Terminal/TerminalFactory:1.0] = 0x8056630
Nov 11 23:27:14 Moe gconfd (joeljkp-5739): GConf server is not in use, 
shutting down.
Nov 11 23:27:14 Moe gconfd (joeljkp-5739): Exiting
Nov 11 23:34:45 Moe gnome-name-server[6162]: server_is_alive: 
cnx[IDL:GNOME/Terminal/TerminalFactory:1.0] = (nil)
Nov 11 23:34:45 Moe gnome-name-server[6163]: server_is_alive: 
cnx[IDL:GNOME/Terminal/TerminalFactory:1.0] = 0x80561c0
--

Any idea what these are, and if they could cause something like this?

Or there some other problem here?

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Re: Periodic sluggishness in games

2003-11-11 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Ron Johnson wrote:
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 20:02, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 18:03, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:


I'm experiencing periodic sluggishness when I play 3d games like Unreal 
Tournament (natively) and Max Payne (WineX). It's not a framerate 
problem, because there's no choppiness, it's periodic (a minute of 
slowness, a couple minutes of normal, a couple of slow, et c.), and 
there's no apparent relation to the complexity of the action when it 
happens. The effect is as if the game itself is going into a slow-mo 
mode (yes, I know, Max Payne has a slow-mo mode, but that's not what's 
going on here).

I have a new Dell 5150 with an nVidia GeForce FX 5200 using the latest 
nVidia-supplied drivers. I don't have any apps running while I'm playing 
the games, save for Gnome and its applets and such.

Does anyone have any clue what could be the problem here?


Can you ssh in from another system, and run top(1) in P mode?
Maybe some intermittent process is jumping in.
Assuming that any such process would be running even when I'm not in a 
game, would simply watching top for a while work?


Oh, ok, I assumed (yeah, yeah, I know) that these were full-screen
games that would make that impossible.
Actually, these are full-screen games. I meant watching top while I'm 
not in the game at all, so see if there's any kind of periodic processor 
activity.

Unfortunately I don't have another system to ssh from.

As a test, I tried playing UT from twm, with none of the Gnome stuff 
running. The same problem occurs. It appears to be kind of progressive: 
it's fine for a good while, then slows for a moment, then is fine for a 
shorter time, then slows, then fine, slows, fine, slows, et c.


Have you tried any other games, like tuxracer?
Nope, just these two. Would there be anything different about tuxracer 
that would help isolate the problem?

Just from sitting here watching top for a while, it appears my highest 
memory hog is Mozilla Mail checking for new messages, but that never 
gets above 4%. I've run the game without Mozilla in the background, with 
the same behavior.

I've never noticed this effect in Windows.


exim?  SpamAssassin?  PostgreSQL?
Well, I have exim set up for local delivery only. No SpamAssassin. I 
have Apache and MySQL running. I guess I could shut these down and see 
how they effect things.

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Re: Periodic sluggishness in games

2003-11-11 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Ron Johnson wrote:
On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 18:03, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:

I'm experiencing periodic sluggishness when I play 3d games like Unreal 
Tournament (natively) and Max Payne (WineX). It's not a framerate 
problem, because there's no choppiness, it's periodic (a minute of 
slowness, a couple minutes of normal, a couple of slow, et c.), and 
there's no apparent relation to the complexity of the action when it 
happens. The effect is as if the game itself is going into a slow-mo 
mode (yes, I know, Max Payne has a slow-mo mode, but that's not what's 
going on here).

I have a new Dell 5150 with an nVidia GeForce FX 5200 using the latest 
nVidia-supplied drivers. I don't have any apps running while I'm playing 
the games, save for Gnome and its applets and such.

Does anyone have any clue what could be the problem here?


Can you ssh in from another system, and run top(1) in P mode?
Maybe some intermittent process is jumping in.
Assuming that any such process would be running even when I'm not in a 
game, would simply watching top for a while work?

Unfortunately I don't have another system to ssh from.

As a test, I tried playing UT from twm, with none of the Gnome stuff 
running. The same problem occurs. It appears to be kind of progressive: 
it's fine for a good while, then slows for a moment, then is fine for a 
shorter time, then slows, then fine, slows, fine, slows, et c.

Just from sitting here watching top for a while, it appears my highest 
memory hog is Mozilla Mail checking for new messages, but that never 
gets above 4%. I've run the game without Mozilla in the background, with 
the same behavior.

I've never noticed this effect in Windows.

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Periodic sluggishness in games

2003-11-11 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I'm experiencing periodic sluggishness when I play 3d games like Unreal 
Tournament (natively) and Max Payne (WineX). It's not a framerate 
problem, because there's no choppiness, it's periodic (a minute of 
slowness, a couple minutes of normal, a couple of slow, et c.), and 
there's no apparent relation to the complexity of the action when it 
happens. The effect is as if the game itself is going into a slow-mo 
mode (yes, I know, Max Payne has a slow-mo mode, but that's not what's 
going on here).

I have a new Dell 5150 with an nVidia GeForce FX 5200 using the latest 
nVidia-supplied drivers. I don't have any apps running while I'm playing 
the games, save for Gnome and its applets and such.

Does anyone have any clue what could be the problem here?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: hdparm dma not working

2003-11-10 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Well hell, after all of that it was a simple case of `modprobe piix`. 
Thanks for everyone who helped. This list is great.

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Re: hdparm dma not working

2003-11-10 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Alvin Oga wrote:
hiya joel

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:


Roberto Sanchez wrote:

--
# hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
/dev/hdc:
setting using_dma to 1 (on)
HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
using_dma=  0 (off)
#
--

>

What version of hdparm are you using?  What version of Debian?
What make and model is the drive?  What mobo/chipset do you have?
hdparm 4.5-1.2
Debian 3.0r1
Fujitsu MHT2060AT
Kernel 2.4.22 compiled from official Debian sources
Anyone know how to find out my chipset from Dell? They don't seem to be 
very forthcoming...


not surprising...

when your system boots... watch very carefully, all the boot up messages
that is flyig by ...
	- you will see the ide chipset it found ...
	- you will see the partition tables
	- you will see the ethernet drivers 

once you know what part number ( chipset ) it uses for the ide controller,
go and find the nearest looking similar kernel driver for that chipset
	insmod  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/drivers/block/that-ide-chipset.o
		( if it complains about kernel version numbers, you will
		( need to make your own kernel 

	hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda


Maybe you can make sense of these boot messages? I don't see any chipset 
identifiers, but I do some some DMA stuff. They're attached. Thanks a lot.

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boot
Description: application/java-vm


Re: hdparm dma not working

2003-11-10 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Roberto Sanchez wrote:
Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:

When I try to get dma to work with my hard drive, I get the following 
error:

--
# hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
/dev/hdc:
 setting using_dma to 1 (on)
 HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
 using_dma=  0 (off)
#
--
Does anyone know why this might happen? It's a brand new drive, 
there's no reason this shouldn't work...




What version of hdparm are you using?  What version of Debian?
What make and model is the drive?  What mobo/chipset do you have?
Simply from memory and other such non-authoritative sources, I believe I 
have the Intel 845 mobile chipset.

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Re: hdparm dma not working

2003-11-10 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Roberto Sanchez wrote:
--
# hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
/dev/hdc:
 setting using_dma to 1 (on)
 HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
 using_dma=  0 (off)
#
--
>
What version of hdparm are you using?  What version of Debian?
What make and model is the drive?  What mobo/chipset do you have?
hdparm 4.5-1.2
Debian 3.0r1
Fujitsu MHT2060AT
Kernel 2.4.22 compiled from official Debian sources
Anyone know how to find out my chipset from Dell? They don't seem to be 
very forthcoming...

Kernel options:

--
#
# ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support
#
CONFIG_IDE=y
#
# IDE, ATA and ATAPI Block devices
#
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y
#
# Please see Documentation/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK=y
# CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE is not set
# CONFIG_IDEDISK_STROKE is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECS=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI=m
# CONFIG_IDE_TASK_IOCTL is not set
#
# IDE chipset support/bugfixes
#
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD640=m
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD640_ENHANCED is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ISAPNP=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_GENERIC=m
CONFIG_IDEPCI_SHARE_IRQ=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_OFFBOARD is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_FORCED is not set
CONFIG_IDEDMA_PCI_AUTO=y
# CONFIG_IDEDMA_ONLYDISK is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA=y
# CONFIG_IDEDMA_PCI_WIP is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ADMA100=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_AEC62XX=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ALI15X3=m
# CONFIG_WDC_ALI15X3 is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_AMD74XX=m
# CONFIG_AMD74XX_OVERRIDE is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD64X=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_TRIFLEX=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CY82C693=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CS5530=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HPT34X=m
# CONFIG_HPT34X_AUTODMA is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HPT366=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PIIX=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_NS87415=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_OPTI621=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PDC202XX_OLD=m
CONFIG_PDC202XX_BURST=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PDC202XX_NEW=m
CONFIG_PDC202XX_FORCE=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RZ1000=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SC1200=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SVWKS=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SIIMAGE=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SIS5513=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SLC90E66=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_TRM290=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82CXXX=m
# CONFIG_IDE_CHIPSETS is not set
CONFIG_IDEDMA_AUTO=y
# CONFIG_IDEDMA_IVB is not set
# CONFIG_DMA_NONPCI is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PDC202XX=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_MODES=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ATARAID=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ATARAID_PDC=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ATARAID_HPT=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_ATARAID_SII=m
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Re: hdparm dma not working

2003-11-10 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
jterris wrote:
I had this same problem when I was connecting a good drive
to an old, CMD chipset ATA-66 card. Once I replaced
it with a newer promise card it worked perfectly.
This is a brand new (less than 2 months) old laptop from Dell, though. I 
don't think my problem is with old components, but who knows...

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hdparm dma not working

2003-11-10 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
When I try to get dma to work with my hard drive, I get the following error:

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/dev/hdc:
 setting using_dma to 1 (on)
 HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
 using_dma=  0 (off)
#
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Does anyone know why this might happen? It's a brand new drive, there's 
no reason this shouldn't work...

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twm gdm session file?

2003-11-09 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Does anyone have a twm session file for gdm?

Mine doesn't seem to be working at the moment, and I can't figure out why.

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Re: Fickle sound

2003-11-08 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Bijan Soleymani wrote:
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 12:18:21AM -0500, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:

Bijan Soleymani wrote:

If you are talking about a laptop then you might have to live with what
you have.
I do indeed have a laptop. Thing is, I've had no problems under Windows. 
And using XMMS/ESD plugin works great.


If you need sound mostly for music and IM sounds then esd should be a
pretty good fit. You can always run programs that don't support esd
using the program esddsp (it intercepts any direct access of the sound
card and sends the data to the esd daemon, or something along those
lines).
Amazing. esddsp is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks Bijan!

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Re: Fickle sound

2003-11-08 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Bijan Soleymani wrote:
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 11:33:00PM -0500, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:

My sound system is being really fickle for some reason. It'll work fine, 
then all of a sudden simply stop playing sound. This happens during 
games (UT) and with other apps (IM sounds).

I've heard that sound servers like esd are supposed to help with sound 
issues, but I haven't quite figured out how to use them. UT and other 
things try direct access to /dev/dsp, which doesn't work with esd, I guess.

Any advice?


I recommend you get a better sound card. I know this might not be what
you want to hear, but a crappy sound card will give you nothing but
headaches. I'm very happy with my sblive oem. The price was quite
reasonable and I can play any number of sound at the same time without
problems. Just check around for decent pci sound cards that are well
supported under linux. You should be able to find tons of decent cards
for $15-$40.
If you are talking about a laptop then you might have to live with what
you have.
I do indeed have a laptop. Thing is, I've had no problems under Windows. 
And using XMMS/ESD plugin works great.

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Fickle sound

2003-11-08 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
My sound system is being really fickle for some reason. It'll work fine, 
then all of a sudden simply stop playing sound. This happens during 
games (UT) and with other apps (IM sounds).

I've heard that sound servers like esd are supposed to help with sound 
issues, but I haven't quite figured out how to use them. UT and other 
things try direct access to /dev/dsp, which doesn't work with esd, I guess.

Any advice?

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Re: No to wine! (was:"Red Hat recommends...")

2003-11-08 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
techlists wrote:
I really love the analogy of comparing wine to a crutch.  Because that
is exactly what it is.  An as a crutch, we should not be trying to make
the crutch better, rather work on healing the leg so that the crutch is
not needed.  In this case instead of making windows apps work under
linux, we make linux apps that are better.  And to those companies who
will not port their products to linux, especially the games makers, we
tell them you can shove your windows krap, we will use a native product,
and even if the native one is not as good, I will still use it over you
product, so you either develop for us or go bankrupt.  If we continue on
this "make linux able to run windows app" we give no insentive to
companies to develop for linux.
That as was said before OS/2 fell for the same reason.  No one developed
for os/2, so win windows changed it's code and win-os/2 couldn't run the
new apps..well we know what happened.  os/2 was too far behind with
it's native apps to catch up.
So use wine as a crutch if you wish, but never want it to be a full
product, or we will lose in the marketplace.


Let's take the special case of games again. In this case, it's not a 
matter of making a better product for linux. If Blizzard came out with 
Diablo III for linux tomorrow, that wouldn't allow me to play Diablo I.
You're right about apps, though. If Microsoft Office won't work on 
linux, use OpenOffice. But games are not applications. They're 
entertainment. And a later version of a piece of entertainment does not 
supercede a previous piece. It's simply another piece.

So how do we solve the problem of games under linux? There's a few 
possibilities:

1. They're permanently tied to Windows, and that's the way it will be. 
This forces gamers to have a second partition or computer running 
Windows for their games. Not the situation we want to be in.

2. Current games should be ported to Linux. This is possible, but not 
very easy at all. There's no source, so it takes an insider to do it, or 
some contractor. And the companies need to have an incentive to embark 
on this kind of project. Which means when these ports do happen, we need 
to spend our hard-earned cash on them.

3. Companies should start making their games Linux-compatible. Like 
above, there needs to be an incentive. And right now, I could buy Quake 
III for Linux for a whopping $45 or so from TuxGames. Or I could buy it 
for Windows for $5 on eBay. This type of pricing scheme will go nowhere.

4. Wine. The crutch this is absolutely right, but right now that's the 
only way to play Windows-only games on Linux. And the better it is, the 
better we are for it.

By the way: want to support Linux gaming? Pre-order Doom 3 for linux!

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a.out libraries?

2003-11-08 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
This is related to my previous Doom thread.

I've got the official Linux Doom executables working now, except for two 
sticking points:

With linuxxdoom, the X version, it brings up a message saying "xdoom 
currently only supports 256-color PseudoColor screens". I don't really 
want to adjust my X settings just to get this working, so I tried the 
SVGAlib version.

With linuxsdoom, the SVGAlib version, I get a message saying "can't load 
library libvga.so.1: Exec format error". This version of Doom was 
created back when a.out binaries were standard. so I presume it needs an 
a.out version of libvga.so.1. Does anyone know where I can get old 
libraries like this?

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Re: Doom problems?

2003-11-08 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Andreas Janssen wrote:
I can't say what exactly your problem is, but Debian comes with several
prepackaged Doom clones (for example lxdoom, prboom). prboom will also
allow you to run the game at higher resolutions.
I'm somewhat wary of 'enhanced' versions of games. Do you know what 
changed? Is this actually Doom, or is it an 'enhanced' version with 
added features the developers thought would be cool?

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Doom problems?

2003-11-08 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I just downloaded linuxxdoom from iD, and I'm having some problems with 
it. Here's what happened:

--
$ ./linuxxdoom
./linuxxdoom: can't load dynamic linker '/lib/ld.so'
$
--
Problem is, /lib/ld.so is there.

--
$ ll /lib/ld.so
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   16 Nov  8 03:01 /lib/ld.so -> 
/lib/ld-2.2.5.so
$
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Running as root comes up with the same problem.

Help? Is WINE really the answer?

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Re: No to wine! (was:"Red Hat recommends...")

2003-11-08 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Christian Schnobrich wrote:
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 00:52, David Millet wrote:


 
Or not until wine begins running these and every windoze app that
everyone uses flawlessly, which hopefully happens soon.


No! 
please.


Here's my take. I like to play games. I have lots of games. As you are 
probably well aware, there's not many commercial games for Linux. So I 
keep a copy of Windows XP on my computer so I can play them.

If Wine could play all my games like they play in Windows, I could get 
rid of my Windows partition completely, and be all the happier with 
Linux as my main OS.

And yes, I know about WineX. But it's not there yet, and I don't have 
the funds to spend $5/month for something I may not use very often.

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Desktop hostname?

2003-11-07 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I'm an average-Joe user on a lone desktop machine connected to the internet
through a cable modem & router. Currently, I have my hostname set to 'Moe',
simply because I think Moe is a good name for my computer. This seems to show up
in lots of other things, though, like assumed e-mail addresses and default
identifiers and such. Is there anything this /should/ be set to? 'localhost'
seems to be the default, but that doesn't seem any more descriptive or useful
than my made-up name.

I guess this question is related to my exim settings. Exim has always seemed to
me to be good for server-type systems, not home desktops. Although I'd really
like to get it working to at least be able to send mail through it, so I don't
have the personal stigma of having a 'broken mail system' anymore.

Thanks in advance.


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Re: i810_audio.o

2003-11-05 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Jeffrey Barish wrote:
To get sound out of my machine, I need three modules: sound.o, 
ac97_codec.o, and i810_audio.o.  I know this because I see all 3 running 
under Knoppix, and it produces sound.  With my own kernel, I come up 
with sound.o installed.  I must install ac97_codec.o next or I get 
complaints about unresolved symbols.  But when I try to insmod 
i810_audio, I get the complaint

i810_audio.o: init_module: No such device
Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, 
including invalid IO or IRQ parameters

What am I doing wrong?


I had this same problem. It ended up being a real pain: my device wasn't 
supported by that version if i810_audio, so I had to upgrade my kernel. 
Here's a test: look at the output of 'lspci' for your sound chip, and 
try to find its pci id.

Now look in //i810_audio.c, and in 
the first section it will have some 'define' statements with some pci 
ids. If yours isn't there, it's not supported. Try a new kernel.

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"locale not supported"?

2003-11-05 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I keep getting warnings along the lines of "Gdk-warning: local not 
supported by C library" when I install packages in gnome-terminal. I'm 
using en-US.utf8.

Is there something I can change to make this go away?

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Miguel de Icaza on Debian

2003-11-05 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
OSNews is reporting this
<http://primates.ximian.com/~miguel/texts/linux-developers.html> article by
Miguel de Icaza in which he talks about (among other things) the difficulty of
supporting Debian.

Choice quote:

"It is clearly the choice for many free software enthusiasts and is very
entrenched due to its deep community roots. Tools like apt-get help people try
out the latest developments in the open source world with little effort, and
their community commitment is fantastic, but is a very hard platform to support
for an ISV."


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"Community-oriented" distros

2003-11-04 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
With the recent launch of Red Hat's Fedora, it seems to me that we now 
have three major options for people looking for a community-based Linux 
distribution for x86: Debian, Gentoo, and Fedora.

I'm currently using Woody, mostly because of the community aspect (just 
"feels" right to me) and the package stability system. I'm a home user 
with a new Dell laptop and no real reason to have an enterprise-quality 
product except my own peace of mind.

So my questions:

1. Are there other community-based distributions out there that would be 
worth a look?

2. Which would be best for my needs? Are there other philosophical 
differences between them that I should know about (besides Gentoo's 
source-only approach)?

Thanks for the opinions, guys.

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Re: hdparm script

2003-11-04 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Alfredo Valles wrote:
> 
> Is there a template or guideline to follow in debian for making init
> scripts?

Take a look at the Debian Reference section on the boot process:

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-system.en.html#s-boot


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Re: Spam filter recommendation

2003-10-27 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Quoting Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Can anyone recommend a good spam filter for Debian???
> > I use Mozilla as my mail client on an Apple PowerBook and also an
> Intel 
> > desktop.
> 
> Mozilla includes a bayesian spam filter, doesn't it?

Not the version included in Woody. I think 1.4 and later do, though.


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Re: Installing my own Apache?

2003-10-19 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Perhaps I should make this a more general question.

My underlying question involves adding and upgrading new software not 
available in the official distribution. Let's say I want to put the new 
version of an IM client on my Woody system. Do I compile it from source, 
do a `make install` and be done with it? Do I build my own package and 
install it that way?

What do other people usually do when they want to add some external 
software to their Woody system?

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Installing my own Apache?

2003-10-19 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I want to set up a development environment identical to that of my 
webhost, which means I need to install Apache 1.3.27, PHP 4.3.1, and 
MySQL 3.23.42, none of which are included by default in Woody.

What's the best way to install these? Just install from source? Package 
them myself? What do other people do?

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Linux defragmenter?

2003-08-18 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I just realized that I've never heard of a hard drive defragmenter for Linux
(ext2/ext3). Do I really live under a rock, or are they really not used? If not,
why?

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Why is ide-scsi necessary?

2003-06-24 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
This sounds like a FAQ, but I can't find the answer... maybe I'm not 
googling the right keywords.

Why is SCSI emulation necessary for cd-r/w drives? Why can't I use them 
as the IDE/ATAPI drives that they are?

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Re: Creative Audigy

2003-06-23 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
james leclair wrote:
Hello all. Having trouble getting sound running under stable woody since 
upgrading sound card to SB Audigy from SB 16. Did get my gforce4 vid 
card working thanks to this list! Can anyone point me to a good 
walkthrough/tutorial? Currently running kernel 2.4.18 with soundcore 
module installed. Thnaks!


Get and install the drivers from http://opensource.creative.com

Worked perfectly for me.

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Re: Installing linux inside linux?

2003-06-22 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Karsten M. Self wrote:
...and you want to do...?
I want to test debian-installer.

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Installing linux inside linux?

2003-06-21 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I've heard of several methods of installing Debian within an already 
running Debian install on the same partition.

- Bochs: an emulator, does this recreate a system worthy of a debian 
install? or will emulator-specific problems arise?

- chroot: what's a chroot?

- UML: patch for kernel? I don't want to recompile my kernel

Are there any other ways of doing this I'm not aware of?

I have 1 hard drive with a windows partition, and one each of /, /boot, 
and scratch partitions, running Woody on the linux side.

Thanks in advance.

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Easy firewall advice

2003-06-19 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I have a stock Woody system with Gnome 1.4 running, connected to the 
'net via a 802.11b connection. I want to put a simple firewall on there, 
just to keep things locked down a little more than they are now.

Is there anything real simple, user-friendly, configure-and-forget 
available for Woody? I'm used to ZoneAlarm for Windows, so that gives 
somewhat of an idea of how much I know about firewalls.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: eth0: error -110 failure writing Tx descriptor to BAP

2003-06-18 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
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Hi,
I am getting this wireless error with Linksys WPC11 ver 3 card. What is 
the easiest way to fix this? I am using auto-detection of hardware that 
came with Knoppix.
This is (mostly) fixed in the 0.13e orinoco drivers from 
http://ozlabs.org/people/dgibson/dldwd/

You'll need to have your kernel sources present to compile them.

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Re: Kernel penguin logo?

2003-06-11 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Benedict Verheyen wrote:
Yesterday, i compiled my own kernel and specified vesa frame buffer
support. Then i set vga= in the lilo.conf where
 is a decimal mode specified
in the kernel source directory docs. Read the docs
Documentation\fb\framebuffer.txt and Documentation\svga.txt.
That must be the problem. /boot/config-2.4.18-bf2.4 shows 
CONFIG_FB_VESA=y, while /boot/config-2.4.18-1-686 shows # CONFIG_FB_VESA 
is not set.

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Kernel penguin logo?

2003-06-11 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
How do I get a nice little penguin logo during kernel boot? Is that a 
kernel option that must be set at compile time? I noticed 
kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4 has it, while kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686 doesn't.

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Re: fstab Mystery

2003-06-10 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Mark Annandale wrote:
Hi Guys

This is an extract from my /etc/fstab -
 "/dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ntfs,ro,noauto,users,exec,uid=mark,gid=mark  0 0".
As user mark I cannot open this folder, but can as root. The installation is a 
hd install from a knoppix CD, giving me pretty much a woody installation 
AFAIK.

Could anyone tell me whats wrong with that fstab entry, and perhaps tell me 
how to access it as user.
If I'm not mistaken, uid and gid need actual user and group ID numbers, 
not names. So your line would be:

"/dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ntfs,ro,noauto,users,exec,uid=1000,gid=1000  0 0"

if "1000" is the ID of "mark".

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Re: Wifi

2003-06-09 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
PCI or PCMCIA?

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Gnome meltdown

2003-06-07 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I had somewhat of a Gnome meltdown last night, and I'm trying to pick up 
the pieces. I'm using a generic clean tasksel "desktop system" install 
of Gnome 1.4 on Woody. Here's what happened:

1. I ejected my pcmcia 802.11b card, since it was causing some problems 
(ksoftirqd_CPU0 using 100% cpu, it does this occasionally, ejecting and 
reinserting always fixes it)

2. When I reinserted it later, I noticed that the system didn't beep and 
the card's LED didn't come on. So, I logged out and rebooted.

3. When I logged back in to Gnome, I noticed that my panel was gone (a 
top one). I also noticed that when I started a gnome-terminal, it wasn't 
reading my .bashrc. A `source .bashrc` fixes it.

4. Thinking it was a fluke, I logged out and shut down for the night.

5. This morning, I started it up, logged in, and the problem was still 
there. Interestingly, the gnome-terminal I left open from last night 
read .bashrc correctly when it restarted. New terminals still don't read 
it. xterm and uxterm work correctly.

6. The 802.11b card works correctly now.

So, does any of this make sense to anyone? What could cause this to 
happen? More importantly, how do I get my panel back, and how to I get 
gnome-terminal to source my .bashrc on startup?

Thanks in advance.

- Joel

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xscreensaver not starting with Gnome

2003-06-03 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
How do I make xscreensaver start when I log into Gnome? Currently I have to 
right click on the lock applet > Restart Daemon before I can lock my screen.

I have xscreensaver-gnome 3.34 with Gnome 1.4 on Woody.

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How to turn off scsi emulation?

2003-05-27 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Somewhere during the process of installing Woody and updating to kernel-image-
2.4.18-686, my Zip drive came under the control of ide-scsi. I can't think of 
any good reason to have scsi emulation for my Zip drive, so how do I turn it 
off? I want my two cd-rom drives as scsi, so I can't just disable ide-scsi 
altogether.

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Re: Sound

2003-03-06 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
> For sound blaster audigy you have to visit
> http://opensource.creative.com/ or
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/emu10k1
> and download the source to the driver that supports sb audigy plus the
> tools.
> You then do a make, make, make install, make tools, and make
> install-tools and 
> you should be allright after doing a modprobe emu10k1.

But I already have the emu10k1 driver compiled directly into the kernel.

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Re: Sound

2003-03-06 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
> "adduser foo audio", where foo is your username.  You might want to
> take
> a look at the adduser manpage.
> 
> > --
> > # cat di604_firmware_218.zip > /dev/dsp
> > bash: /dev/dsp: No such device
> 
> Were you doing that as root or as an ordinary user?  If you are doing
> something as an ordinary user, use "$" for the prompt instead of "#".
> 
> > # ls -l /dev/dsp
> > crw-rw1 root audio 14,   3 Mar 14  2002 /dev/dsp
> > #
> 
> Those permissions look good


This was as root. I haven't tried editing the permissions yet to allow for reg.
users. I figure if I can get it to work as root, I'm on the right track.

As a pure sidenote, there's also a /dev/audio and a /dev/dsp0-3

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Re: Sound

2003-03-06 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Seneca wrote:
On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 09:25:41PM -0500, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:

Ok, so I just compiled kernel 2.2.20 with sound support and emu10k1 (or 
whatever it's called) supported by default. So what do I need to install 
to actually get some sound playing? Some sort of sound infrastructure or 
something?

I have a soundblaster audigy.


"cat foo > /dev/dsp", however I can't promise that it'll sound good ;-)

You should add yourself to the audio group, download some proper audio
players, and try playing something.  If by "supported by default" you
mean that it is compiled directly into the kernel, and is not a module,
then you don't have to load it separately.  Otherwise, just do a quick
"modprobe emu10k1" before trying to play anything.
It exists, but it doesn't exist? Also, how do I add myself to the audio 
groop? And yes, it's compiled directly into the kernel.

--
# cat di604_firmware_218.zip > /dev/dsp
bash: /dev/dsp: No such device
#
#
#
# ls -l /dev/dsp
crw-rw1 root audio 14,   3 Mar 14  2002 /dev/dsp
#
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Sound

2003-03-05 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Ok, so I just compiled kernel 2.2.20 with sound support and emu10k1 (or 
whatever it's called) supported by default. So what do I need to install 
to actually get some sound playing? Some sort of sound infrastructure or 
something?

I have a soundblaster audigy.

- Joel

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Kernel errors

2003-03-04 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I just compiled a fresh 2.2.20 kernel and rebooted into it for the first 
time. During the boot, the kernel went into an endless cycle of the same 
error message, something to the effect of "cannot modprobe  
  binfmt###c; error=8". That's from memory, so I forget 
what the switches are, and 'modprobe' could have been "cannot insert 
module". I also can't remember the exact name, I just know it started 
with binfmtc. The error code is correct.

Did I set a configuration setting wrong?

Upon seeing 'binfmt' in the error, I remember I set up the kernel to use 
MISC binaries, and unset ELF and JAVA binaries. But the help said I 
could do that...

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Dumb question: How do you reboot?

2003-03-04 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Ok, so I'm stumped. I just did a nice new install of Debian Woody, and I 
can't figure out how I should reboot the thing. I have GNOME 1.4 
running. There's no 'reboot' menu item, and when I log out, it brings me 
to the GNOME login screen, with no 'reboot' item there, either. 
CTRL-ALT-DEL doesn't work on the login screen. CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE cuts 
out of X for a second, but then it pops right back into the GNOME login. 
The last time all I could do was CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE repeatedly until X 
gave me an error and quit for good, then I could CTRL-ALT-DEL it.

It seems like I must be missing something extraordinarily easy here.

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Sound solutions for Woody

2003-03-03 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I have a Debian stable (Woody) box with a SoundBlaster Audigy Gamer
running on the standard 2.2.20 kernel. What sound solutions do I have
available to me? I can get by with just hearing a cd or some mp3s or
something through it, for now.
- Joel

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Sound solutions for Woody

2003-03-03 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I have a Debian stable (Woody) box with a SoundBlaster Audigy Gamer 
running on the standard 2.2.20 kernel. What sound solutions do I have 
available to me? I can get by with just hearing a cd or some mp3s or 
something through it, for now.

- Joel


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CUPS - HP Deskjet 952C

2003-03-01 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I have an HP Deskjet 952C attached to my USB on a Debian stable (Woody)
box. I'm trying to set up my printer using the browser interface.
First question: should I be using the "HP DeskJet Series CUPS v1.1 (en)"
model or the "HP New DeskJet Series CUPS v1.1 (en)" model?
Second question: when I specify "USB Printer #1", it looks at
/dev/usb/lp0 or something. I've looked in /dev, and all I see that
relates to USB is /dev/ttyUSB0, 1, 2, et c. How do I find out which one
my printer is on, and how do I get CUPS to recognize it?
Thanks for your help.

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Re: GNOME 1.4 Time [SOLVED]

2003-03-01 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Here's what I did to get the correct time to show on my GNOME 1.4 clock 
applet (at least during the current session, I haven't tried rebooting):

--
# mv /etc/localtime /etc/localtime.backup
# ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/US/Eastern /etc/localtime
# ntpdate time.ucla.edu
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Thanks for all your help.

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GNOME 1.4 Time

2003-02-28 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
When I installed Woody, I set up the hardware clock to GMT, then
specified US/Eastern as my time zone. The GNOME 1.4 time applet, though,
shows a time of 4:52 pm, when the actual local time is 9:52 pm.
'hwclock' shows 16:52.
What gives?

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GNOME 1.4 on Woody

2003-02-27 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I'm doing a baseline netinstall of Debian, and I want to add the GNOME 
1.4 desktop to it. Is there some specific meta-package I should be 
installing? How do I know I'm getting the full desktop? A specific order 
of apt-get commands or something?

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