Setting up a VLAN tagged bonding device
I've tried six different sets of instructions, and at this point, I'm at a loss. Is it even possible to set up an 802.3ad bond that uses VLAN tagging under Debian 9.1? I have a working setup with bonding. I need to modify this setup to VLAN tag the bond. The working setup is: auto bond0 iface bond0 inet static address 10.10.110.222 netmask 255.255.0.0 network 10.10.0.0 broadcast 10.10.255.255 bond-mode 802.3ad bond-miimon 100 bond-lacp-rate 1 bond-min-links 1 bond-xmit-hash-policy layer2 bond-slaves eno3 eno4 enp3s0f1 auto eno3 iface eno3 inet manual bond-master bond0 auto eno4 iface eno4 inet manual bond-master bond0 auto enp3s0f1 iface enp3s0f1 inet manual bond-master bond0 This results in a /proc/net/bonding/bond0 output of: # cat /proc/net/bonding/bond0 Ethernet Channel Bonding Driver: v3.7.1 (April 27, 2011) Bonding Mode: IEEE 802.3ad Dynamic link aggregation Transmit Hash Policy: layer2 (0) MII Status: up MII Polling Interval (ms): 100 Up Delay (ms): 0 Down Delay (ms): 0 802.3ad info LACP rate: fast Min links: 0 Aggregator selection policy (ad_select): stable System priority: 65535 System MAC address: d0:94:66:04:fc:ed Active Aggregator Info: Aggregator ID: 2 Number of ports: 3 Actor Key: 9 Partner Key: 3 Partner Mac Address: 00:1c:73:61:a9:25 Slave Interface: eno3 MII Status: up Speed: 1000 Mbps Duplex: full Link Failure Count: 1 Permanent HW addr: d0:94:66:04:fc:ed Slave queue ID: 0 Aggregator ID: 2 Actor Churn State: none Partner Churn State: none Actor Churned Count: 0 Partner Churned Count: 0 details actor lacp pdu: system priority: 65535 system mac address: d0:94:66:04:fc:ed port key: 9 port priority: 255 port number: 1 port state: 63 details partner lacp pdu: system priority: 8192 system mac address: 00:1c:73:61:a9:25 oper key: 3 port priority: 32768 port number: 9 port state: 63 Slave Interface: eno4 MII Status: up Speed: 1000 Mbps Duplex: full Link Failure Count: 1 Permanent HW addr: d0:94:66:04:fc:ef Slave queue ID: 0 Aggregator ID: 2 Actor Churn State: none Partner Churn State: none Actor Churned Count: 0 Partner Churned Count: 0 details actor lacp pdu: system priority: 65535 system mac address: d0:94:66:04:fc:ed port key: 9 port priority: 255 port number: 2 port state: 63 details partner lacp pdu: system priority: 8192 system mac address: 00:1c:73:61:a9:25 oper key: 3 port priority: 32768 port number: 7 port state: 63 Slave Interface: enp3s0f1 MII Status: up Speed: 1000 Mbps Duplex: full Link Failure Count: 1 Permanent HW addr: 00:0a:f7:9e:74:0b Slave queue ID: 0 Aggregator ID: 2 Actor Churn State: none Partner Churn State: none Actor Churned Count: 0 Partner Churned Count: 0 details actor lacp pdu: system priority: 65535 system mac address: d0:94:66:04:fc:ed port key: 9 port priority: 255 port number: 3 port state: 63 details partner lacp pdu: system priority: 8192 system mac address: 00:1c:73:61:a9:25 oper key: 3 port priority: 32768 port number: 8 port state: 63 My attempt to VLAN tag this is: auto eno3 iface eno3 inet manual bond-master bond0 auto eno4 iface eno4 inet manual bond-master bond0 auto enp3s0f1 iface enp3s0f1 inet manual bond-master bond0 auto bond0 iface bond0 inet manual pre-up ifconfig bond0 0.0.0.0 up bond-mode 802.3ad bond-miimon 100 bond-downdelay 200 bond-updelay 200 bond-lacp-rate 1 bond-min-links 1 bond-xmit-hash-policy layer2 bond-slaves eno3 eno4 enp3s0f1 auto bond0.10 iface bond0.10 inet static address 10.10.110.222 netmask 255.255.0.0 vlan-raw-device bond0 This results in what is clearly a non-working bond: # cat /proc/net/bonding/bond0 Ethernet Channel Bonding Driver: v3.7.1 (April 27, 2011) Bonding Mode: load balancing (round-robin) MII Status: down MII Polling Interval (ms): 100 Up Delay (ms): 200 Down Delay (ms): 200 Slave Interface: eno3 MII Status: down Speed: 1000 Mbps Duplex: full Link Failure Count: 1 Permanent HW addr: d0:94:66:04:fb:3d Slave queue ID: 0 Slave Interface: eno4 MII Status: down Speed: 1000 Mbps Duplex: full Link Failure Count: 1 Permanent HW addr: d0:94:66:04:fb:3f Slave queue ID: 0 Slave Interface: enp3s0f1 MII Status: down Speed: Unknown Duplex: Unknown Link Failure Count: 1 Permanent HW addr: 00:0a:f7:9e:72:05 Slave queue ID: 0 None of the six sets of instructions I've tried has gotten me any closer to a working configuration. Bringing up the slaves manually does not change anything except the status line of the slaves, though it is unclear to me if this is because the switch has not yet been reconfigured. So, two questions: 1) Is this even supported? 2) Does anybody have a working example configuration for such a thing? Thanks, John S.
Debian Etch Upgrade Problems with Mail Check Applet and Evolution
Hello, I've recently upgraded from Sarge to Etch (the full monty, I'm now running a 2.6 kernel) and my mail check applet has gone away, and the evolution package is still marked conspicuously as a sarge package - ic evolution 2.0.4-2sarge1 The groupware suite When I tried to download the source for the mail notification applet from the GNOME site, I couldn't find the development packages to install to compile it. It's missing libgnomeui-2 - Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libgnomeui-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'libgnomeui-2.0' found Is this a known problem to someone? I've began to wonder if the package list I've downloaded is incomplete or munged, and if there is a safe way to tell the server to give me the whole package list again, instead of diff files. Anybody have any hints or diagnostic techniques I can try, or am I simply making bad assumptions, and Etch is as it's supposed to be (a Sarge version of evolution, no mail check applet, and the source on the GNOME web site is not compilable on a Debian Etch box)? Thanks, John S. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Removing USB memory
On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 12:36:51PM -0400, H.S. wrote: Magnus Therning wrote: I'm running a GNOME desktop on a Debian Sid system. I've noticed that if I right-click a USB memory stick icon on the desktop and choose Unmount Volume the icon disappears immediately. However the device may be busy in the background, and if I remove the stick too early files copied to the stick may not have arrived yet (the sync isn't done yet). I've found two ways around it: 1. Unmount in a shell using `pumount'. 2. Keep a system monitor in the panel and have it show disk activity. Is there any other way? I'd kind of like a brief notification at the end informing me that the device is fully unmounted. /M I usually use KDE and I see that by unmounting a USB device from its icon on the desktop, the icon seems to stay as long as the USB stick's activity LED keeps blinking. For large files (images), I have noticed that the icon stays on the desktop for quite a few seconds. Never had corruption on the USB stick. So it appears KDE removes the icon of a USB device only when the sync is complete. I am surprised Gnome doesn't do so. It does on my system. The icon will not be removed from the Gnome destop until umount completes. In other words, this is not a Gnome vs. KDE issue. It appears to be a configuration issue. BTW, I let udev mount the pluggable devices automatically. If you are using fstab to do so, you can fix the mount options to set sync to happen every time the USB device is accessed. This, however, may be the issue: your system may be misconfigured, or this undesirable behaviour may be a result of the file system you are using on your USB device. So the question is: what file system do you have on the device that disappears immediately when you umount it, and if applicable, what are your fstab options for this device? Finally, how do you have your system configured to automount hot attached mass storage devices? John S. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: usb2 to fast
On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 04:43:10PM +0100, nicals wahlgren wrote: Is there a way to slow an usb connection to usb1 speed? In debian when I am transferring files to mp3 player or sd memory card through card reader it goes very quick but the files are mostly unreadable. When using Win XP it goes much slower but the files are working fine. Please help Please use only 2.0 compliant cables when connecting USB 2.0 devices to 2.0 ports. Yes Virginia, 1.1 cables CAN cause data corruption when you try to drive them at 2.0 speeds! ;-) John S. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: udev is ruining my life
On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 09:21:03AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 09:38:35AM -0700, John W. M. Stevens wrote: deleted silly udev rationales I, for one, can see no rationale for udev in it's present form. It works, is not a rationale. But so long as it remains optional, I don't really care, which was exactly my attitude about devfs. And yet, through all of this, no one has yet bothered to read the udev FAQ. Sorry, I've read it several times. Not that I like udev, or care whether or not anyone uses it or not, but the depths of ignorance are appalling. What do you expect with such a minimal and political FAQ? The true story can only be discovered by reading the kernel mailing list. Like watching sausage being made, I wouldn't recommend such to the delicate of stomach. John S. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: udev is ruining my life
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 10:25:29AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Mitchell Laks wrote: Last time (TM) I tried udev it was a disaster. I now run 2.6.15-ck3 w/o udev. Everything fine. This subject keeps coming up and as I watch the threads AFAICS udev's rationale is architectural. Better for the world ultimately, but as of yet a headache for the common user, most of the time?, many times?, sometimes? Udev was a response to devfs. Sadly, BOTH systems were poorly thought out. Devfs tried to cover dev, but was a VFS file system that the kernel maintainers thought violated the unspoken, unwritten design rules of the kernel (devfs forced policy into the kernel, or so it was claimed), besides having a few bugs early on. Udev was the user space devfs, but unfortunately, it was also designed to cover all of dev, instead of just the sub-set of hot attach/detach devices that make sense for a dynamic device file system. Obviously, better interaction with existing kernel infrastructure is necessary before udev can go live. John S. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP-DB] Help getting php up and running
On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 11:19:05AM -0500, CasperLinux wrote: On Saturday 11 February 2006 10:54, David Kirchner wrote: On 2/11/06, CasperLinux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have any input? I am googling till my fingers hurt and everything I find says it should be running. Whenever I try to open a test.php file all I get is the web browswer trying to save the file instead of serving up the php content. On Friday 10 February 2006 21:28, CasperLinux wrote: LoadModule includes_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_include.so LoadModule includes_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp4.so That should probably be php4_module or something along those lines. It needs to match whatever the .so was built for; it's not arbitrary. I did a dpkg-reconfigure apache a bit ago and this is now the php line in modules.conf : LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so Still won't come up. Did you modify your apache2 config file to recognize the .php extension? You need: DirectoryIndex index.html index.cgi index.pl index.php index.xhtml To be able to use index.php, and you need lines like: IfModule mod_php4.c AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml .php3 AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps /IfModule To get the web server to recognize the .php extension and execute your PHP files. In apache2, the apache2.conf file should contain that first line, and there should be php4.conf file in your /etc/apache2/mods-enabled directory that contains the second set of lines. John S. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to disable certain usb device discovery
On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 02:59:48PM +0800, Kai Cui wrote: Hi! Our server is running latest debian (3.1r1). I'd like to know how to config the environment to prevent the kernel from auto discovering and making available any hard drive or cdrom attached via usb. By the way, the keyboard is of usb kind too. Well, the easiest way would be to remove the USB mass storage driver. However, this isn't strictly necessary because if you turn off automounting, and don't put any user options into your fstab, regular users won't be able to use USB devices anyway (if you don't slap a user option on a device in fstab, only root can mount it). For safeties sake, don't use udev, or if you do, make sure it creates USB mass storage device special files with root.root ownership, and 0600 permissions. This allows root to still use USB mass storage for system administration, purposes and is just as safe as removing the driver (since, after all, root can always reinstall the driver, being root), while still retaining useful functionality. Thanks, John S. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: USB flash drive not automounting or mounting
On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 08:45:58PM -0800, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Monday 06 February 2006 9:58 am, Andrew Sackville-West so eloquently stated: Now, I am not sure which of these would be used for a flash drive, but I can tell that a few won't be look in /etc/udev/rules.d/050_hal* and see what that says. That is the rule that creates sd* devices. Excuse me, but we are jumping the gun here. First, let's rule out other problems. I didn't see any email that indicates that you looked in /dev and did, or did not, find a device special file for your device. If you didn't find one, that's OK, because you can simply create one. After creating it, try mounting your device. If that works, then we know that everything else is fine, it's just your udev configuration that needs to be debugged. Nothing here leads me to believe this is how the automounting happens. I also looked at my Ubuntu udev scripts and rules and saw nothing there. Udev doesn't do automounting, it does automatic device special file creation. If you look in /dev and don't see your device special file, udev may be the problem, but if you do look, and see it, then maybe something else is wrong. Can someone enlighten me otherwise? You need to post the contents of the /proc files I asked for. When you dump what USB sees, you should see something like: T: Bus=02 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=12 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=03f0 ProdID=4002 Rev= 0.01 S: Manufacturer=HEWLETT-PACKARD S: Product=HP PhotoSmart 935 S: SerialNumber=ZPP30880 C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr= 10mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 3 Cls=08(stor.) Sub=06 Prot=50 Driver=usb-storage E: Ad=81(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=02(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 64 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=83(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 2 Ivl=255ms The above indicates that there is a HP Photosmart 936 camera, in mass storage mode, attached. Looking at this info I know that this is a Bulk Only protocol device, that uses SCSI, so the SCSI sub-system should be in play. I can check that by looking at what is in the /proc/scsi directories. Poke around in your USB and SCSI /proc directories, let us know what you find. John S. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Udev Usbkey problems
On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 11:02:13PM -0600, Jacob S wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello List, I just upgraded Sid to the latest packages today. I also got my usbkey back from warranty repair by the manufacturer. I have tested the key in OS X on an iBook and it works great. However, when I plug it into my Debian Sid box, syslog fills up with the following errors: Feb 6 14:43:45 jacob kernel: usb-storage: device scan complete Feb 6 14:43:45 jacob kernel: ioctl_internal_command: 4 0 0 0 return code = 802 Feb 6 14:43:45 jacob kernel:: Current: sense key: No Sense Feb 6 14:43:45 jacob kernel: Additional sense: No additional sense information Feb 6 14:43:45 jacob kernel: ioctl_internal_command: 4 0 0 0 return code = 802 Feb 6 14:43:45 jacob kernel:: Current: sense key: No Sense Feb 6 14:43:45 jacob kernel: Additional sense: No additional sense information Feb 6 14:43:47 jacob kernel: ioctl_internal_command: 4 0 0 0 return code = 802 This is suspicious, as it looks like your device is either damaged, or out of spec. Can you recompile your kernel to turn on verbose USB debugging? I'm using a 2.6.12-1-k7 kernel. I tried restarting udev and eventually even rebooted (yes, I know that shouldn't be needed). I also made sure I didn't have any udev rules in my rules.local file that would be affecting it. A google search of this problem on lists.debian.org comes up empty. Searching the whole web for this problem comes up with more than a dozen hits of a single guy reporting this problem to the linux kernel e-mail list in May 2005 with no replies. Anyone have some clues how I might be able to fix this? It looks like a device problem. You'd need to turn on debugging (I recommend both USB and SCSI) to get a better feel for what is failing. When turned on, verbose USB debugging output will tell me what commands are being sent to the device, and how it is responding to them. John S. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Install problems: USB, SATA on Dell 3100
On Mon, 2006-02-06 at 16:54 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 07:34:26 -0800 Andrew Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to install debian 3.1 on a dell dimension 3100. By using the 2.1.2006 testing release, I can get my hard disks recgonized. However, the USB keyboard is seen by the installation program, but once the installed system boots the keyboard is not seen. I have to use a USB keyboard and mouse, as the traditional PS/2 ports no longer exist on the 3100! Any suggestions? What do you mean isn't seen? by what: the kernel? X? console? Please do: cat /proc/bus/usb/devices /tmp/usb_devices.txt and post usb_devices.txt. Also, post lsmod output, and the contents of any InputDevice sections (Section InputDevice) from your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file. Explanation: The proc dump will show most of the relevant information about any usb devices attached to your system, the lsmod output will tell us what usb related modules, if any, you have loaded, and the InputDevice sections will show us whether or not you have configured your X server to use your USB devices. Obviously, you will have to do this from a different machine, by ssh or telnet'ing to the box under discussion. I'm assuming that nothing works, here . . . that you can't use a virtual terminal, not that you just can't use X. If this assumption is in error, tell me what does work, and what doesn't. Thanks, John S. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Simple internet problem
On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 07:14:20PM +0100, paulakkermans wrote: Hi All, This afternoon I installed (succesfully) KDE 3.3 on my Debian System. However, now my internet connection doesn't work anymore and I cannot acces the internet with my Debian System. How do I restore my internet settings (used to connect to proxyserver) like the way they were? Isn't there a wizard or something available? (just like on the installation disk of Debian?). OK, well, some details, and some symptoms, would be a good way to start. What kind of computer do you have, and what does it have in it? How are you connecting to the internet? Acoustic modem, DSL modem, cable modem? How is your modem connected to your computer (or is it installed IN the computer)? What protocols/services is the proxy server proxying for? How do you connect to the internet? Are you using some kind of tool or program to turn the connection on and off? Have you tried any kind of network diagnostic, such as telnet, ping, traceroute, etc? Have you seen any interesting or informative messages in any of your logs? John S. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: USB flash drive not automounting or mounting
On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 17:47 -0800, Rob Blomquist wrote: On Sunday 05 February 2006 3:13 pm, Marc Wilson so eloquently stated: On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 01:30:01PM -0800, Rob Blomquist wrote: much silliness deleted Ok from all this, I wonder if the drive is corrupt. It is connected. Why can't I manually mount it? Because you're trying to mount the block device, rather than a partition on it. Example: rei $ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdf Disk /dev/sdf: 519 MB, 519569408 bytes 129 heads, 32 sectors/track, 245 cylinders Units = cylinders of 4128 * 512 = 2113536 bytes OK, I know what you mean about mounting the block device, I tried sdb0, 1, and 2, but got no response before I emailed. timmy:~# dmesg | tail usb 3-5: new high speed USB device using address 32 scsi7 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Vendor: PNY Model: USB 2.0 FDRev: 1.13 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 SCSI device sdb: 487424 512-byte hdwr sectors (250 MB) sdb: assuming Write Enabled sdb: assuming drive cache: write through /dev/scsi/host7/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 Attached scsi removable disk sdb at scsi7, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 USB Mass Storage device found at 32 So it is still there, and let me find out what it responds to: timmy:~# fdisk -l /dev/sdb Disk /dev/sdb: 249 MB, 249561088 bytes 16 heads, 32 sectors/track, 952 cylinders Units = cylinders of 512 * 512 = 262144 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 * 1 952 2436966 FAT16 Ah, so it is vfat on sdb1! no sweat! timmy:~# mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/flash mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist OK, just in case: Do you actually have a device special file /dev/sdb1? Just askin' . . . Now this is silly! Is it still there? timmy:~# fdisk -l /dev/sdb Disk /dev/sdb: 249 MB, 249561088 bytes 16 heads, 32 sectors/track, 952 cylinders Units = cylinders of 512 * 512 = 262144 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 * 1 952 2436966 FAT16 I will be darned. Still there, but mount can't find it! Maybe because the error message from mount is correct? That special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist? John S. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Missing File Types and Programs capplet from capplets package in Sarge?
On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 08:19:41PM +, Chris Lale wrote: Ralph Katz wrote: On 02/02/2006 03:11 PM, John W. M. Stevens wrote: In the help for gnome, under: 10.2 Where to Find Preference Tools It says that to find the File types and programs preference tool, look under: Applications ??? Desktop Preferences ??? Advanced ??? File types and programs But on Sarge, with the capplets package installed (which says that it contains the file types and programs capplet), no such capplet shows up. I checked the package list, and it does NOT appear to actually contain this capplet. Anybody have any hints, suggestions or instructions on how to fix this problem? Thanks, John S. John, You're not alone. While setting up a sarge gnome desktop for my wife, I was also unable to find that. Adding a file association is trivial. But /removing/ one is a mystery. I just wanted to associate .html files with firefox, and not epiphany, but gnome won't let you do that, nor will it let you change the default file association, as far as I've been able to tell. Searching the net, it appears that the gnome docs are obsolete, and tools for doing what should be simple tasks are missing in gnome 2.8. Perhaps someone can enlighten us... Regards, Ralph I think you want the update-alternatives tool. You can find the Gnome frontend in the Applications menu: Applications - System Tools - Alternatives Configurator No such menu option exists on my system. Is this intalled from an optional package? The System Tools menu contains such things as Floppy Formatter, and New Login. Is this the menu you meant? Thanks, John S. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Missing File Types and Programs capplet from capplets package in Sarge?
On Sat, 2006-02-04 at 22:24 +, Chris Lale wrote: John W. M. Stevens wrote: On Sat, Feb 04, 2006 at 08:19:41PM +, Chris Lale wrote: Ralph Katz wrote: On 02/02/2006 03:11 PM, John W. M. Stevens wrote: In the help for gnome, under: 10.2 Where to Find Preference Tools It says that to find the File types and programs preference tool, look under: Applications ??? Desktop Preferences ??? Advanced ??? File types and programs But on Sarge, with the capplets package installed (which says that it contains the file types and programs capplet), no such capplet shows up. I checked the package list, and it does NOT appear to actually contain this capplet. Anybody have any hints, suggestions or instructions on how to fix this problem? Thanks, John S. John, You're not alone. While setting up a sarge gnome desktop for my wife, I was also unable to find that. Adding a file association is trivial. But /removing/ one is a mystery. I just wanted to associate .html files with firefox, and not epiphany, but gnome won't let you do that, nor will it let you change the default file association, as far as I've been able to tell. Searching the net, it appears that the gnome docs are obsolete, and tools for doing what should be simple tasks are missing in gnome 2.8. Perhaps someone can enlighten us... Regards, Ralph I think you want the update-alternatives tool. You can find the Gnome frontend in the Applications menu: Applications - System Tools - Alternatives Configurator No such menu option exists on my system. Is this intalled from an optional package? Install the package galternatives. The command run from the Gnome menu is also called galternatives. Thank you for your help, but with all due respect, you don't understand the problem. The alternatives program is a System tool. What I am trying to fix is a missing desktop configuration tool. There used to be a tool (Called File Types and Programs) that would allow me to associate verbs with nouns in my desktop (in other words, to associate a program with a given file type, so that asking the desktop to open said file would execute the configured program). While this capplet is described in the Gnome desktop documentation, and while the capplet package claims to include this particular capplet, the File Types and Programs capplet is NOT included in this package, and does not appear to be installed. Does anybody know what happened to this capplet (program), why it is no longer included in the capplet package, and where I should go to get it, or what the program that replaces this capplet is, and what package I should install to get it? Thanks for your suggestions anyway . . . John S. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Missing File Types and Programs capplet from capplets package in Sarge?
On Sun, 2006-02-05 at 18:09 +1300, Timothy Musson wrote: I'm pretty sure that's all been moved to the Nautilus File Properties dialog. 1) Right-click on any file of the type you're interested in. 2) Select Properties. The File Properties dialog will appear. 3) Use that dialog's Open With tab to add and remove applications for the filetype in question, and to select a default. It's a lot nicer than the old system, IMO :) This works except for one minor problem: I can delete some of the programs, but not all from the list of options. When one of the recalcitrant programs is selected, the remove button grays out. Anybody know why this is? Thanks, John S. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Missing File Types and Programs capplet from capplets package in Sarge?
In the help for gnome, under: 10.2 Where to Find Preference Tools It says that to find the File types and programs preference tool, look under: Applications → Desktop Preferences → Advanced → File types and programs But on Sarge, with the capplets package installed (which says that it contains the file types and programs capplet), no such capplet shows up. I checked the package list, and it does NOT appear to actually contain this capplet. Anybody have any hints, suggestions or instructions on how to fix this problem? Thanks, John S.
Re: HowTo for Gnome2??
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 10:13:24PM -0500, Todd Pytel wrote: I backed up my sources.list, OK . . . changed it to unstable, It? Did you mean the APT::Default-Release value? did an apt-get update, apt-get install gnome-core, OK. and then restored the old sources.list. There isn't a command line option for specifying this? I thought that was what -t, --target-release and --default-release were for? Works fine. Nautilus 2 is worlds faster than the original, fonts are nice, everything is anti-aliased, blah, blah, blah... OK. If you're absolutely opposed to any unstable packages, then I guess you're screwed. That's what you get for running testing. What, are you saying that I'm less likely to get screwed by running experimental, than testing? I didn't know that. Why? John S. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HowTo for Gnome2??
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 08:52:50PM -0600, Jacob Anawalt wrote: John, I installed straight to testing (but using a stable netinstall CD) a couple months ago. When gnome2 into was released into it from unstable a couple weeks ago I ran into similar issues. I am looking forward to watching this thread to see what the expert insight to this is. My opinion is that Gnome2 'works' but it doesn't 'work right'. Isn't that what testing is for though? That is what I thought, too, but Mr. Pytel indicates that testing is less stable than unstable . . . why, he didn't say, only that that is what you get for running testing. To test for bugs that aren't critical and prepare for the next stable version that does 'work right'. There are gnome2 version packages that are still in held up in unstable that I think maybe should have held up the whole gnome2 upgrade, but I don't know that much about the details to make this statment as anything more than a personal opinion. It does seem as if a mistake has been made here, by putting a partial set into testing. It doesn't seem likely that testing can be done properly with only a partial set. Here is a link about ideas for moving debian to gnome2, but I didn't get a good feeling of resolution: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?archive=nobug=154950 Thank you. I'll read through this. I also get the error message from the gnome settings daemon. I think it's due to nautilus being gnome and not the gnome2 version. The gnome2 version of nautilus seems to be held back in unstable with some automated build errors. Ah! That answers that question. Thank you. I also have some interestingly scaled and rendered fonts in some applications. On this page (http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/debian/testing/2003/05/msg00058.html) there is mention of the local affecting fonts. I should check my local. I dont remember which I chose, other than knowing it wasn't 'C'. This has been a very useful reply. Thank you! My locale is indeed C. I'll read through the information at this link, as well. Thanks, John S. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HowTo for Gnome2??
Hello, I upgraded from stable to testing, in order to be able to start using Gnome2, only to find that there was no good way to get a complete, usable Gnome2 installation. Many things are broken, including: 1) Fonts. They are really ugly, and it seems that the previous defaults were just ignored. 2) The Gnome Settings Daemon was not installed, and it repeatedly complains about that lack. I can't find any package that indicates that it might contain this semi-mythical daemon. 3) It seems impossible to figure out what will conflict with what, without actually trying just about every combination. Incompatible packages are all stuffed into the gnome section, with no clue as to what packages should be installed to get a reasonably complete Gnome2 installation. I seem to have installed, and uninstalled, parts of both Gnome and Gnome2 several times now. There was rumour of a gnome2 meta package. It doesn't seem to actually exist. Perhaps it's only in experimental? 4) There SHOULD be a way to run both Gnome and Gnome2 on the same machine, as the major number of the libraries is different, but the packages seem to be configured in such a way as to insist that these are incompatible. Yes, this will eat up more memory (both library versions must be resident at the same time), but if Gnome2 in testing simply isn't yet complete, then I really have no choice. Is there any documentation on how, using testing, to get the most complete (applets, to, please!) Gnome2 installation possible? Please, no suggestion about pinning anything, as there doesn't seem to be any documentation or man pages about what that is, or how to do that, either. Thanks, John S. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]