Re: Debian Etch DVD download help
On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 04:18:54PM +0530, ahsan baig wrote: I want to download the DVDs for latest debian distribution ( code named etch). That's testing, it's not a final release. The latest final release is Sarge. You also, unless the target machine has no or very slow networking, should try the netinst CDs, or maybe CD1. Unlike other distributions, you don't need all the CDs to install - the packages are arranged according to popularity, so you don't need later CDs or the second DVD. But when I start the download using the Mozilla Firefox downloader, it shows the size of (1) as 362.2 MB instead of 4556480 KB, and the size of (2) as 349.1 MB instead of 4543360 KB. I have tried with other downloaders like wget, Star Downloader, DAP, Internet Explorer Downloader, but they all show the sizes of the files to be downlaoded in MBs instead of approx 4GB each. Maybe the file size limits of FAT32 are similarly in other Windows file transfer programs. In that case you really do need to download CD1 (or maybe a couple more if you really insist) or netinst. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any way to 'remove' apt-get?
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 12:55:46AM -0500, Gabriel S. Farrell wrote: On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 10:00:02PM -0600, David Berg wrote: Grr, I've got to get to a mailer more flexible than GMail. Sorry for the direct reply Andy. Are you Grring because you wish you were using Mutt? It's the answer to all your problems! Actually you can use Mutt with gmail and exim4/fetchmail using SSL and TLS, I'm doing it right now. You do have to activate POP3 in gmail though, and exim4 needs some configuring to use TLS. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation CDs for potato (Debian 2.2)
J.Moore wrote: I need to do an install of Debian 2.2 (potato) to do some maintenance on an old application. The author claims it will only run on the 2.2 kernel, and I want to eliminate as many variables as possible. Potato installs kernel 2.0 by default, Woody might be what you're after. It installs kernel 2.2 by default and unlike Potato has repository (oldstable or Woody) and security support for the time being. View this message in context: Re: Installation CDs for potato (Debian 2.2) Sent from the Debian User forum at Nabble.com.
Re: Recommended Debian book?
Deboo ^ wrote: Both, an intermediate linux user as well as for server administration For server administration I recommend the Linux Administration Handbook by Nemeth, Snyder, and Hein, this book covers intermediate and advanced administration with examples for Debian and two other distros. I also highly recommend, for both administration and casual use, O'Reilly's UNIX Power Tools. This is a very fun book, with lots of informative posts from Usenet in its old days when it was still useful, and neat hyper-links from part of the book to another. (It's not meant to read cover to cover except the first part.) UNIX Power Tools alone takes you from an ordinary user to a wizard, it's well worth the price. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configuring X on Intel 82845 gl board
Kent West wrote: -Intel 82845 GL motherboard uname -r says 2.2.20-idepci I highly recommend you upgrade to Testing or Sid (unless you have some reason to stay on Woody, assuming that's what you're running). You'll get a newer version of X, and a 2.4 kernel is just an apt-get install away instead of having to compile your own. I agree that he should run Sarge (currently testing), however, woody does have a 2.4 kernel, both selectable during installation by putting bf2.4 on the command line (much the same way linux26 installs 2.6 with d-i) or apt-getable as either the bf variety or Xu's 2.4 kernel packages. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on an old PC
On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 05:02:32AM -0800, Wendell Cochran wrote: I think we would end up with much better software if all developers were forced to use old, slow computers :) . . . With 15-inch screens, dial-up connectivity. The dial-up consideration would help. I have to use the Woody installer because the Sarge installer doesn't include PPP support. Believe it or not, not everyone who uses Linux has DSL, a cable modem, or a T1 at their disposal. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on an old PC
On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 02:27:44PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Sun, 2005-01-09 at 08:46 -0500, Joshua Lee wrote: On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 05:02:32AM -0800, Wendell Cochran wrote: With 15-inch screens, dial-up connectivity. The dial-up consideration would help. I have to use the Woody installer because the Sarge installer doesn't include PPP support. Have you filed a critical bug? It's already noted in the eratta. Basically as something they don't plan to fix. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: boot problems
On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 12:14:34AM -0600, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote: I can boot from a floppy but not from the HD. The boot process stops at L with no error. I have tried adding Linear to lilo.conf and I have also run liloconfig. Any suggestion? If lba32 instead of linear doesn't work as suggested, try apt-getting grub. I have had less problems with grub than with lilo; it's more full featured and at the same time less of a pain to use. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WTF is popping up that frigging window?
On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 10:35:54AM -0500, Robert L. Harris wrote: Recently my machine started popping up a window that I don't remember telling it to do. When I select a URL in my konqueror or mozilla windows this pops up asking how I want to open the URL. When I double click a URL in an Eterm it does the same thing. This is in KDE? This behavior can be turned off, it's somewhere in KDE's control panel. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Books on Debian
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 12:34:08PM -0800, Gene wrote: New to debian, more of freebsd and other OS users (except MS, although not by choice at work), anyways, any good reading on using debian that anybody could recommend... O'Reilly has a book on Debian, though it's on an older version of Debian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rebuild gcc, glibc for woody
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 06:19:41PM +0800, Patrick Hsieh wrote: Is it possible to rebuild the gcc and glibc in woody with some optimized gcc argument? I've noticed that gentoo has a /etc/make.conf in which I can defile glibc should work. gcc is one of the few packages that won't work, it uses a mini-compiler to compile itself and thus ignores any CFLAGS arguments. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Politics of Java
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 07:41:19PM +, Colin Watson wrote: However, as I started to download the SDK from Sun's web site, it I'm confused. Isn't this what we have a non-free section for? We still have to be able to distribute it to put it in non-free. As I understand it, that isn't the case for newer JDKs. Blackdown has a 1.4 that will probably become available via third-party unofficial deb repositories as 1.3 is. There's a server, in .uk IIRC, where you can get the blackdown 1.4 beta, but its sid-only as it has as a dependency sid's version of glibc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Love you guys - It's Alive
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 05:23:35PM -0800, deFreese, Barry wrote: It's up and running. Just trying to figure out what minimalist window manager to use and I'm off and running. I have twm on at the moment and gotta say it's a little too minimalist. I like WindowMaker a lot, but it might be slightly less minimalist than what you need; reportedly it needs less resources than E, and way less than GNOME or KDE. Among the minimalist WMs, my favorite is PWM. PWM is the windowmanager that fluxbox got its tab feature from, and it is also the code that the ION window manager (which is a bit too radical for my tastes) is based on too. PWM has very nice window frames, and an interesting approach to minimizing. (Minimizing is shading, except the shade is a small tab that's easy to work around or move rather than a big top-window bar.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Version To Use? (2)
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 10:28:26AM -0800, John Floren wrote: So, I should just use the new release? Remember, my computer is really slow, I could only download with a 56K modem, and I can't download directly to the intended computer. Also, exactly how large is the I downloaded a net install cd (about 100M) over the internet and let apt-get and dselect get the rest of a minimal installation to start with. That option isn't really a good one though if the computer you're installing it to isn't going to be online. For that it would be better to purchase CDs, either that or purchase a modem for it! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fixed libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 package
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 11:50:30AM -0800, Patrick Lane wrote: Some of us using unstable use it because we have to. That is, we have to if we want to run Debian. For example, I installed unstable for XF86 4.2. w/o it, I had to do a mickey mouse work-around to get my xserver to start, which to me is way worse. XFree86 4.2 is in testing now, no need to run unstable just for that. Much of unstable gets migrated fairly quickly to testing... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading to XFree 4.2.1-3
On Mon, Nov 11, 2002 at 11:09:15PM +, Richard Kimber wrote: I upgraded. It works fine, though the upgrade wasn't entirely smooth, and I only got it working by restoring the previous config, so having a backup is clearly important. There were some font differences, but they were minor - I don't know much about fonts. If you're using true-type fonts the debian package handles them differently now using defoma, so you'll need to update your configuration files Accordingly. If you don't already have it, install the x-ttcidfont-conf package, then read the docs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UNIX shells - Bourne and C
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 05:32:58PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: The Korn shell is not free. At one time you could buy source from ATT by an anonymous uucp connection for IIRC $300 and we did that. The Korn shell *used* to not be free, now it is, as in beer. You can download it for free but not distribute it, and it is the ksh93 version rather than ksh88 which pdksh emulates. Ksh93 is a pretty good scripting language from what I hear, but outside of the propritary Unix world, where ksh is the defacto standard, its not likely to catch on as long as ATT doesn't think it should be downloaded anywhere other than its servers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Restarting X after graphical login
On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:34:52AM +, Chris Lale wrote: I installed Woody 3.0 from official CDs and it gave me a graphical login (gdm). I prefer it to the command line login, but it means that configuration requiring restarting X presents problems. Often, a reboot is the only sure way. Does control-alt-backspace to kill X not eventually work? (It usually takes me two times here.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: UNIX shells - Bourne and C
On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 06:19:53PM -0500, Bruce Park wrote: Just wanted to know, does debian linux include the Bourne and C shell? In redhat, they are a symbolic link to bash and tcsh respectively. You can install ash, the BSD sh, which is closer to the actual Bourne shell in behavior. I think csh is also similar. You should (and probably do) have bash also installed in a Linux system however because it's a defacto standard in the Linux world. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing TrueType fonts
On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 10:52:32AM +, Chris Lale wrote: I suppose I could check by stopping the xfs and xfstt servers, but I don't know how to do this without removing the packages. Could I move xfs and xfstt out of /etc/init.d and reboot? No need to reboot, this is not windows. Starting and stopping a service is usually as simple as specifying stop or start or restart on the command line of a /etc/init.d script file. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: choice of software
On Thu, Nov 07, 2002 at 11:09:01AM +1100, Rob Weir wrote: I'd also recommend 'abuse' and 'abuse-frabs' which is a fun little game of killing aliens with huge guns. It reminds me of Metroid. Note: abuse is marked as obsolete according to apt-cache show, you should install abuse-sdl instead... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thread Stealing (was: Installing debian via network)
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 09:49:14AM +0800, csj wrote: On Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:56:26 -0500 Levi Waldron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And thanks from me. I was previously reading the list archives rather than actually subscribing, til I realized that some email programs (like kmail) are capable of threading like the archives do! You mean there are email programs that can't thread? Amazing. I've run kmail, mutt, evolution and sylpheed-claws (this post). All are thread-capable. You already have such a mail program. Run mail. :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: choice of software
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 04:38:39PM -0400, james leclair wrote: :mail clients I use mutt, if you prefer a graphical client there is sylpheed-claws for a lightweight client and evolution for a more kitchen-sink sized one. :-) :game playing I've just apt-getted frozen-bubble. It's a neat arcade puzzle-game with great graphics and a sound-track. It is reccomended, along with several other games that are available on Debian apt servers, in an article at freshmeat.net (where nearly anything available for Linux is listed, though sadly they don't link to .deb packages.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thread Stealing (was: Installing debian via network)
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 07:55:30AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: Joshua Lee writes: However, it should be pretty easy to implement a script that would run pon, fetch your mail, and run poff to disconnect once successful though. [...] soon as it receives it from your MUA (e.g. mutt, gnus, etc.). If pppd is configured for demand dialing (use pppconfig) it will immediately dial up and the message will be delivered. Then waiting mail will be downloaded and [...] A rule of thumb for Linux: When you think there ought to be a way to do this there usually is. A rule of thumb for Perl that also applies to Linux is there's more than one way to do it. :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: change from stable to testing in potato
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 02:30:46AM +, Colin Watson wrote: [snip] I didn't write that - Drew Cohan did. Please be careful with attributions. Sorry. There are no regular security updates for testing at the moment (see Does this mean that my security.debian.org line shouldn't say testing? Like this: deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free You can have that there if you like, but it won't help you much unless somebody undertakes to provide security updates for testing. The only So that means I should run stable/updates etc. for security.debian.org, with the rest testing, or will that cause side-effects? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape 7.0 installation Error-Help please.
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 12:38:00AM +1300, Haralambos Geortgilakis wrote: ./netscape-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory You need a RH 6 compatability library. apt-get install libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thread Stealing (was: Installing debian via network)
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 03:55:43PM -, Pigeon wrote: of OE which to me is the single most important feature a mail client can offer: the ability to automatically dial up, send any outgoing mail, receive any incoming mail and immediately hang up. This MINIMISES time spent CLOCKING UP PHONE CHARGES. Agent seems to assume you're online all the time, which is only OK if you're rich. From what little I know, Linux seems to work on the same philosohpy, which puzzles me a bit.) It could be because in the US, local phone is usually flat-rate. Also, TCP/IP wasn't intended for phone lines, it's oriented towards an always-on connection. However, it should be pretty easy to implement a script that would run pon, fetch your mail, and run poff to disconnect once successful though. Or I think you can tell pppd to disconnect after a period of inactivity. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree86 4.2 update howto?
For running X programs such as synaptic as root, as a regular user type in xhost local:root then su to root and run it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xserver-xfree86 and GeForce 2 MX 400
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 06:01:49PM -0500, Dale Scheetz wrote: The problem is, all I've found so far on the web is info suggesting that the natural resolution for this card is 2048 x 1536 @ 75 Hz. What I need is a way to translate this information into refresh rates. The screen is a Plug and Play Truecolor Monitor with 800 x 600 resolution. We need more information than that, a brand name and model number would help. Also, are you sure you don't want to get a new monitor? Monitors with higher resolution than 800x600, are available for real cheap now, and they would come with manuals and/or have online information for you to determine safe scan rates. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Microsoft's plans to kill open source: TCPA
On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 08:49:15AM -0800, Bob Nielsen wrote: Hopefully AMD will make non-TCPA x86 chips rather than caving-in to the M$/Intel collusion. No such luck, AMD is part of the TCPA consortium too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /dev/input/mouse or /dev/input/mice ?
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:04:07 -0500 Bruce Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to install debian 3.0 and I'm stuck on the part where it asks me to input my mouse. I have a USB Microsoft Optical wheel mouse and I don't know what I should use. I've read that /dev/input/mice works but some told me to use I'm using /dev/input/mice with a USB mouse with the usbmgr package installed in order to get the system to notice it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
